Go WWE!

[HotBoy]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but according to prowrestling.com, Shane, and Marrisa McMahon are the new proud parents of a baby boy.

[HotBoy]

Oh, and here's some news about Maven, courtesy of prowrestling.com:

Maven Return Date Announced For March 2004
Story By: Niel Stephens
February 14, 2004

We can confirm that Maven will return to the ring on 3/9. He’s undergone successful surgery on his knee, and will be back inside the squared circle very soon.

We are sorry to report the death of Maven’s mother Sherma Huffman. She passed away on 2/12 following a long battle with cancer. Those who saw the first Tough Enough series may recall Maven having to leave the competition to visit her while ill. On behalf of myself and ProWrestling.Com, we’d like to express our deepest condolences to the Huffman family.

Mavens official website, MavenHuffman.com, has announced information regarding contributions made in the memory of Mrs.Huffman, to the St. Jude's. For information regarding contributions, please check out Maven’s official site.

Source: PWInsider.Com

[EvilDeadNDN]

Im not sure if if any of you have but I used to roleplay in E-Feds when I was younger. I was REALLY into em for the longest time.

Has anyone else ever played in an E-Fed? if so, which ones?

[Inval1d]

yeah i have, but i forgotten the name. It was a long time ago.

[Rogue]

Yah, I was involved in RCWA until it closed. Kyle and CC were also involved.


Any news about Edge?

[slinger]

I was too.

Just thought that Jericho might cement himself as a heel by defeating Christian but then attack Trish at WrestleMania.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Rogue
Yah, I was involved in RCWA until it closed. Kyle and CC were also involved.


Any news about Edge?


Funny you should mention Edge, I got this off of Rajah this morning.


Posted by: Rajah on 2/27/2004

- There is still no word on what brand Edge will join when he makes his return from neck surgery within the next few weeks. He has already started training at OVW but the concern is whether putting him on RAW will make that brand too strong compared to Smackdown!. Either way, when Edge returns, it is expected that he will be pushed into a main event feud with either Triple H or Brock Lesnar depending on where he is placed.

Source: PWInsider.com



Also keep an eye out on this Monday Night's episode of Raw. Mick Foley wil be coming down to Atlanta to confront Orton but he might be bringing a little back-up in the name of THE ROCK Raw looks to be very interesting this Monday. The Tag Match with HBK and Benoit on a team will be interesting and then Austin's response to getting F-5'd by Brock. Also we didn't get a Undertaker Promo last week I wonder if we will get one this Monday night in response to Vince' announcement to the match between Undertaker and Kane at WMXX.

[Colorado Cajun]

I can't wait until Edge is back!!! He should feud with Brock and beat his ass!!

[IamMrDJ]

Well I ust had a thought. If they decide to have Edge feud with Brock and also decide to give Goldberg the victory at Mania... Why not have Edge come out and attack Lesner to cost him the victory. IF they still want Austin to attack Goldberg they can have him attack Goldberg adn then have Edge come out and attack both Austin and Lesner from behind so that Goldberg wakes up adn another Ref comes out and Bill gets the victory.

[sphericthor]

I thought that I wouldn't get the chance to watch Wrestlemania live because I have work on Monday mornings but it starts at 12am so it'll be over at around 3am leaving time for 5-6 hours sleep

[Se7en the movie]

they havent said anything about it on WWE TV but the irish live shows in may in this country sold out in 5 minutes!! and the seconds show sold out in 15mins!!!!! impressive no?

i dont think edge will come out during goldberg v lesner match as i think if they want goldberg to win they'll have him win fair and square, you know to get goldberg over......even if he is leaving

[jbailey84]

got from rajahwwf.com

"* According to an article on the Pioneer Press newspaper’s website, TwinCities.com, former Gov. Jesse Ventura said he is continuing to lose weight as he’s in training for the March 14 WrestleMania XX event at Madison Square Garden."

what the fu-?? against who?

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by jbailey84
got from rajahwwf.com

"* According to an article on the Pioneer Press newspaper’s website, TwinCities.com, former Gov. Jesse Ventura said he is continuing to lose weight as he’s in training for the March 14 WrestleMania XX event at Madison Square Garden."

what the fu-?? against who?

He is not wrstling. VInce has invited a large number of former superstars to make an appearance at WMXX. The night before 'Mania is the Hall of Fame banquet and alot of the wrestlers have been invited to that as well. Before anyone asks, Bret Hart was asked to appear at Mania but declined. He was not invited to the Hall of Fame banquet because he is not old enough to be considered for the Hall of Fame.

Also was just looking over RajahWWF.com
Goldberg will not be appearing on any WWE Television Programs in person until 'Mania. He is off filming a new movie right now.

[Colorado Cajun]

dude I didn't even recognize John from Tough Enough. He's bulked up well

I'm glad he may now get time on tv. He was damn good

[IamMrDJ]

YEah I have been reading that he has been doing really well in OVW. He is one of their best wrestlers. I am happy that they kept him in training for awhile to work with him to work on his technique more and to bulk him up.

Just thinking about Molly bald is weird!!!

[IamMrDJ]

The Rock and Sock Connection back together again. It's about damn time.

Can't Wait 12 more days!!!

[Knerys]

I can't beleive the Rock showed up lol. And Matt called 20 minutes away lol.

[IamMrDJ]

I told my friend Rock would return a couple weeks ago and I posted on here he would as well. HE loks interesting with the goatee but it will be great to ave him back in the ring.

[slinger]

who didn't see that coming? But they did give us a swerve by including Flair. Next week it should be Jericho vs Orton for the InterCon and of course all hell breaks lose, and Jericho ends up winning. That has to be done so Orton can really hate Foley. Then it also adds something to the Jericho/Christian match.

Another great Taker promo. The camera angles weren't great I was like, what's up with The Rock's face? Does he...? The PPV has 6 hours. Every other PPV is around the 2.75 hour mark.

RAW
- Triple Threat for WC
- Rock n Sock vs Evolution
- Jericho vs Christian
- Victoria vs Molly
- Tag Team Fatal Four Way

Smackdown!
- Angle vs Eddie
- Cena vs Show
- Crusierweight Open

IntraBrand
- Kane vs Taker
- Goldberg vs Lesner, Austin Ref
- Playboy Evening Gown Tag Match

I'm sure they'll insert footage from previous WrestleManias, have some former stars introduced, do backstage stuff with them, Smackdown will also have a tag match of some sorts. Still want to see Vince vs Eric after the failed match last week. Watched the Monday Night War. they didn't get everyone but they had most people, and it was a good watch.

[IamMrDJ]

Flair most likely won't wrestle much or at all because he is nursing a pinched nerve in his neck, that is one reason that they had Flair adn BAtista drop the belts.

[slinger]

Yes I read that. I figured he would accompany Triple H to the ring, get involved get some Sweet Chin Music and then be banned from ringside.

[Rogue]

*faints* THE ROCK! Made my night :) I loved it when Foley was like "I said I was coming back to Raw but I didn't say I was coming back alone!" Also, Taker's symbols burning was badass. 13 days! Can't wait!

On a side note, Rock looks damn good. :D

[IamMrDJ]

I thought I made your night with the Lita picture :(

[Rogue]

You did, DJ..it's just that ..that..hell! You all know how big a fan of his I am. :o

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by Rogue
*faints* THE ROCK! Made my night :) I loved it when Foley was like "I said I was coming back to Raw but I didn't say I was coming back alone!" Also, Taker's symbols burning was badass. 13 days! Can't wait!

On a side note, Rock looks damn good. :D You know it, but what's with the new look? (i.e. the goatee).

Personally, I'd like to see them add one more person to completely even up the odds: Maven!! He'll be back on RAW next week.

[slinger]

WWE hall of fame calls on Rose

The Canadian Press 3/2/2004

NEW YORK (AP) - Pete Rose will be inducted into World Wrestling Entertainment's hall of fame later this month, The New York Times reported Tuesday.

Rose, major league baseball's career hits leader with 4,256, participated in three Wrestlemania events from 1998-2000 for WWE. He's ineligible to enter baseball's Hall of Fame because he's banned from the game for life.

He has a deep, abiding respect for what we do,'' WWE chairman Vince McMahon told the newspaper.

Rose will be paid for his appearance at the March 13 induction, and at Wrestlemania the next night at Madison Square Garden.

He'll be presented by Kane, his 136-kilogram nemesis in the Wrestlemania shows. http://www.tsn.ca/wrestling/news_story.asp?ID=74579&hubName=wrestling

Well that should help WrestleMania get some ink and media coverage. Smart idea by Vince, even though he doesn't deserve to be inducted, I think.

[Kyle Katarn]

Stupid work....I was there from 11 Monday morning till 10 Monday night, then too wasted to bother...

I said: You all are lucky wrestling hasn't been able to hold my interest as much lately...because of that, I can last as long as the money does tonight! :D

[Rogue]

The goatee is HOT and it needs to stay! :D


A nice reminder of last night..provided bywww.wwe.com
http://raw.wwe.com/results/030104/images/26.jpg
http://raw.wwe.com/results/030104/images/15.jpg

:grin:

[sphericthor]

Nice, I can't wait until Friday to see this

[jbailey84]

rock looks older with the goatee but thats just my opionion. nice to see he grew his hair back.

[HotBoy]

The Rock(IMO) is about the only person in wrestling that can leave for months at a time, and come back as strong(or stronger)than he was before he left!!!

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by jbailey84
rock looks older with the goatee but thats just my opionion. nice to see he grew his hair back. Well, if he kept his hair almost bald, to go along with the goatee, he start to look more like Austin!!!

[Rogue]

He does and that's not a bad thing. I think it sets him apart.

[Inval1d]

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Triple H's good work has again increased interest in using WWE stars in movies. There is some early talk of using Chris Jericho in the Freddy vs. Jason sequel and there is also some interest in using Eddie Guerrero in movies. Many people will be watching his drawing power as WWE Champion closely to see if putting him in movies is worth it.


Jericho in FvJ 2, Is that a good move??

[slinger]

Originally posted by Inval1d
Jericho in FvJ 2, Is that a good move??

Was Hogan in Mr.Nanny a good one?

[Inval1d]

:lol:

Was hogan in any film a good one? :p

[LordofKings]

has anyone heard anything lately on bret hart? i heard a long time ago (about a year) that vince Mcmahn (sp) was interested in Hart coming back.

Bret Hart would be around 53-54 right now, i think...and most likely he has kept in shape. When he left he was still awsome (imo) and didn't look at all 48-51 (about the age i think when he last appeared). Ric Flair is still wrestling and he would be easily 10 years older then Hart, and look at Hogan too.

Any news on him lately, he's my all time favorite.

Also, who thinks that if Shaun Michaels never left for 3 years that he would still be the biggest star in wrestling. I mean, when he left, that is when astin got huge and then the rock took it over. But if he never left, they may not be as big as they are today, i know HHH wouldn't be. Also, i thought he could never wrestle again, thats why he retired or left in the first place (bad back).

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by LordofKings
has anyone heard anything lately on bret hart? i heard a long time ago (about a year) that vince Mcmahn (sp) was interested in Hart coming back.

Bret Hart would be around 53-54 right now, i think...and most likely he has kept in shape. When he left he was still awsome (imo) and didn't look at all 48-51 (about the age i think when he last appeared). Ric Flair is still wrestling and he would be easily 10 years older then Hart, and look at Hogan too.

Any news on him lately, he's my all time favorite.

Also, who thinks that if Shaun Michaels never left for 3 years that he would still be the biggest star in wrestling. I mean, when he left, that is when astin got huge and then the rock took it over. But if he never left, they may not be as big as they are today, i know HHH wouldn't be. Also, i thought he could never wrestle again, thats why he retired or left in the first place (bad back).

First off, Bret Hart will be 47 in July, not 53 or 54. YEs Vince has invited Bret back on a few occasions including appearing at WMXX, but Bret has declined the offer. Vince and Bret are on a speaking basis now which is 10 times better then the way they were just a few years ago. Bret Hart has been keeping in shape to a point. He suffered a stroke two years ago this June and is not up to his old form and probably never will be. Flair just turned 55 last week to let you know.

Shawn left wrestling 6 years ago this month because of his bad back. He had surgery on his back and worked hard in rehab to make his return. Even if he never left Austin and the Rock still would have been as big and so would have Triple H. They were rising stars that the fans were already in love with so there was no way to keep them down.

[LordofKings]

thanks for the help. Hart duffered a stroke? damn thats sucks. But at 47, if he recovers from that stroke, he could return and still wrestle, and probable still be good. I hope one day soon he does return (anyone know the next time they are in canada?). im glad him and vince are on speaking terms.

I knew shawn had back surgery but i thought his injury was so bad that he would never be able to wrestle again (or was that just what they were saying to make his return look better?)

and time has flown by in life thats why i was wrong about the years and ages. can't believe shawn left 6 years ago, it didn't seem that long ago, damn where have the years gone...

[jbailey84]

i just think it would rock if bret just did a run in from the audience in the HHH Vs Shawn Vs Benoit match, and then exit the arena, ya know somethin like that

[LordofKings]

but what would he do or who would he help. Maybe he could help benoit, and it could set up a feud between him and benoit vs shawn and HHH.

BTW, i think that the all time best fued was the shaun michaels vs bret hart fued, the one before hart got screwed. they really hated each other and that feud was awsome (it was also furing dx)

[slinger]

Benoit should beat HBK with the sharpshooter. HHH would demand a rematch since he didn't submit. Then move HBK to Smackdown, him and Angle would be a dandy.

[LordofKings]

I went to a Bret Hart site and it said that there have been strong rumors that Hart may appear at WrestleMania. Now is this true? Also, i learned he had a stroke, but it is said he has recovered well, is there a chance that if he was to return to WWE, would he be able to wrestle again? Shawn Michaels returned when they thought he never would wrestle again? And the latest on Shaun that i heard is that he is ready to leave wrestling again, when he gets a "sign" to do so. How much time do you think Shaun has left? he and Hart are my all time favorites...

[jbailey84]

maybe there is something goin on between bret and vince that we may not know about. vince could have told bret "if people ask are you going to be at wmXX tell them you declined and blah blah" but who knows until WMXX

[IamMrDJ]

HArt has declined an invitation to WMXX. He has stated that he will not wrestle again in WWE or any other federation. LAst year he served as a GM/President for a few telecasts for another promotion but he was said to not look to be in-ring shape.

Shawn has got a few more years he jsut signed a new contract through 2006 with the WWE. Even after that I would not be surprised if he stayed on as a manager or on-air personality.

[LordofKings]

The article i read, sorry i don't have a link, but it said vince has asked bret to appear at several shows but bret has declined. IMMRDJ said this and also said that him abd bret are on speaking turns now.

Bret deserves to be back in WWE, atleast to get to leave on his terms. The man, after hogan left, single handly kept wrestling alive and carried WWF.

[LordofKings]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
HArt has declined an invitation to WMXX. He has stated that he will not wrestle again in WWE or any other federation. LAst year he served as a GM/President for a few telecasts for another promotion but he was said to not look to be in-ring shape.

Shawn has got a few more years he jsut signed a new contract through 2006 with the WWE. Even after that I would not be surprised if he stayed on as a manager or on-air personality.

Yeah, one of the wesites i went to had a recent picture of bret and he didn't look the best, because of the stroke. with some more time and more recover he could be alright again.

and thanks for the help MRDJ

[IamMrDJ]

HE may deserve to be in the WWE but right now it is his decision. HE is standing very firm with his attitude of not returning right now to the WWE and I respect that. So many other wrestlers are hard up for money that they will jump at a chance to be in the business still.

[LordofKings]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
HE may deserve to be in the WWE but right now it is his decision. HE is standing very firm with his attitude of not returning right now to the WWE and I respect that. So many other wrestlers are hard up for money that they will jump at a chance to be in the business still.

Very true, and also after what Vince did to him, and after what he did for the WWF for so many years, who would want to come back. But i sure hope he does.

MRDJ, could you tell me any sights you go to for your info?

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by LordofKings
Very true, and also after what Vince did to him, and after what he did for the WWF for so many years, who would want to come back. But i sure hope he does.

MRDJ, could you tell me any sights you go to for your info?

NOt just what VInce did to him, but Bret is still upset about the way Owen's death was handled. He feels the PPV should have stopped as soon as the accident occured.

The only site I go to is Rajahwwf.com, but there is also a weekly wrestling article published in my local paper every friday.

[LordofKings]

yeah, so sad what happened to owen. I doubt Hart will ever come back. The only time i see him returning is in several years (10-20) maybe.

[Inval1d]

Originally posted by BKB#1
You know what?? your right.. WM 19 was 39.95 and I hope for 50 bucks they show some serious TNA..:D

I checked the info for buying WM20 and it said 49.95 this year.

on the other hand, who is actually going to watch WM? i know for sure i am! :D

[IamMrDJ]

I ordered it back in Janurary as part of the Road to Wrestlemania PAckage. For $100 I got Royal Rumble, NO Way OUt and Mania.

[stonefaced_1]

I just order mania. I thought maybe this year I would go to mania. I had a little extra money, but there is no way I can afford to buy tickets off of Ebay. Tickets are in the upwards of $1000 for 2 decent seats. I'm depressed. I really wanted to go.

[jbailey84]

from rajahwwf.com

Rob Van Dam’s contract will expire in July 2004 and has yet to begin negotiations to extend the contract. There is a rumor going around that if the WWE decides to move Edge to RAW when he returns, then Rob Van Dam would go to Smackdown. This move will create new opponents for him, and new championships to go for.

[IamMrDJ]

I was reading that last night. I hope that if he does get moved to SmackDown! that they can work out a new contract.

[Colorado Cajun]

Rob would be so better off on SD. hell he vs Eddie for the championship would be incredible

[Inval1d]

yeah I think he would be better on SD!. It can show off most of his talent there.

[2_much_popcorn1]

wrestling is cheap entertainment

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by 2_much_popcorn1
wrestling is cheap entertainment

Thank you for your most insightful comment. I will store it away in my brain with Kenny G Music.

[Inval1d]

nooooo.....cheap entertainment is The Lingerie Bowl when The SuperBowl was around. :p

[ZombieMan]

I agree with what IamMrDJ said about storing it away with Kenny G music. I will also store it away with the music of Yanni. Anyhow, yes I am definitly ordering Wrestlemania 20 to whoever asked! I can't wait, this looks to be a really good one. My trainer (Harley Race) is getting inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame next weekend also and I can't wait to see that. He said Ric Flair is presenting him with it.

[Inval1d]

that's cool to hear ZombieMan

Talk continues that Vince McMahon may give the green light to revive the ECW brand name following WrestleMania XX.

The idea right now is to have Paul Heyman get fired from Smackdown and start ECW as a rebel brand. The thinking is that most of the ex-ECW wrestlers will work on the new ECW brand.

WWE would promote ECW as a "rebel" brand and not one of their official brands.

Shane McMahon may also get involved in this story if it happens, using his power to help Heyman start the rebel ECW group. WWE would keep the budget low for the ECW brand and would eventually expect to run one PPV per quarter for it.

The brand would likely get a one hour weekly TV show, probably on Saturday night replacing Confidential or Velocity.

www.wrestling-edge.com


I hope they go ahead with the ECW brand. :)

[Se7en the movie]

isnt it funny how in the country this event is being held and with the largest quantity of wrestling fans you have to pay to see a PPV but in ireland and england you can see them (we most of them) for free on sky sports (well you gotta pay for sky but thats different)

anyway i'm all for a revival of ECW, i'm actually collecting all their old PPV's on video, i just got november to remember 95 today which includes stone cold steve austin with long blonde hair!!!!! ah the good old days of wrestling

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
I agree with what IamMrDJ said about storing it away with Kenny G music. I will also store it away with the music of Yanni. Anyhow, yes I am definitly ordering Wrestlemania 20 to whoever asked! I can't wait, this looks to be a really good one. My trainer (Harley Race) is getting inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame next weekend also and I can't wait to see that. He said Ric Flair is presenting him with it.

HEy ZOmbie, HArley is currently competing in the Ultimate Champions BAttle that I am runing. He is up against Sabu.

The revival of ECW would be great. I was teling Snik about it a couple weeks ago. It would replace Velocity on Saturday night. It would be like the Old Fashion Saturday Night Special. This would also bring alot of the unused hardcore wrestlers back to the big time, Dreamer especially.

[slinger]

RajahWWF = Undertaker WM20 Spoiler

............. Paul Bearer has previously denied in commentaries that he would not be returning to the WWE. It has now been officially confirmed that he will be returning to WWE with the Undertaker at WrestleMania XX.

[sandman441]

how do the spoiler tags? if you go to his website there is a thread about it

[jbailey84]

awesome

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger
RajahWWF = Undertaker WM20 Spoiler

............. Paul Bearer has previously denied in commentaries that he would not be returning to the WWE. It has now been officially confirmed that he will be returning to WWE with the Undertaker at WrestleMania XX.

Hell yeah!!! WrestleMania just got a little bit better with this news. A little less than 8 days to go. I am hoping to see a final card here in the next few days so I can get things together for my Mania Party.

[jbailey84]

from rajahwwf.com

-There are continuing talks about bring Extreme Championship Wrestling back following WrestleMania XX. The current idea is to get Paul Heyman fired from the Smackdown brand and work for ECW as a rebel brand. It is possible that most of the ex-ECW wrestlers will be on the ECW brand. WWE would promote ECW as competition and not one of their official brands. If this does indeed happen, Shane McMahon may get involved in the story and help Heyman start the ECW brand. WWE would keep the budget low for the brand, run one PPV per quarter, and possibly give it a one-hour slot on Saturday nights each week.


you all think it would work?

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah it could work. I will help promote the hardcore style wrestling again which so many of us love. Firing Paul from SmackDown would also help bring Stephanie back to be the GM for SmackDown again.

[jbailey84]

the main thing i wonder, is IF indeed ECW does start again, will Tazz wrestle? he's my fav wrestle. i even have his logo tattooed on me :D

[Colorado Cajun]

They so need to bring back ECW and give it the saturday slot. They also need to run it right liek old ECW with money backing this time. Keep it seperate as can be and let Paul do his thing with his boys. Also give Dawn a hell of a lot more tv time lol

[Se7en the movie]

but they wont have any of the ECW true originals like SABU, justin credible, jerry lynn, sandman, raven, the eliminators and mikey whipwreck, i mean with all the **** that went down when ECW ended before and people being owed money i dont think we r gonna see the same ECW we all love. Hopefully they use the old ECW Arena and get the guys in the hawian shirts and the guy with the beard and sunglasses back in the front row again

[LS2002]

Updated WM XX Card

Triple Threat
World Title Match
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
vs. Chris Benoit

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg
Special Guest Ref: Steve Austin

WWE US Title Match
The Big Show vs. John Cena

The Rock & Mick Foley vs.
Randy Orton, Batista, & Ric Flair

The Undertaker vs. Kane

WWE Women’s Title Match
Victoria vs. Molly Holly

World Tag Team Titles Match
Booker T & RVD vs.
Jindrak & Cade vs.
La Resistance vs.
The Dudley Boyz

WWE Team Titles Match
Rikishi & Scotty Too Hotty vs.
Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin vs.
The Basham Brothers vs.
The APA (This is not Offical but it was announced on Velocity the other night)

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match
Cruiserweight Open

Evening Gown Match
Torrie Wilson & Sable vs.
Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie

Chris Jericho vs. Christian

[Warren]

My picks:

Triple Threat World Title Match
Triple H vs Shawn Michaels vs Chris Benoit

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle

Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg
Special Guest Ref: Steve Austin

WWE US Title Match
The Big Show vs John Cena

The Rock & Mick Foley vs Randy Orton, Batista, & Ric Flair

The Undertaker vs Kane

WWE Women’s Title Match
Victoria vs. Molly Holly
The Dudley Boyz
World Tag Team Titles Match
Booker T & RVD vs Jindrak & Cade vs La Resistance vs


WWE Team Titles Match
Rikishi & Scotty Too Hotty vs.
Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin vs The Basham Brothers vs The APA

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match
Cruiserweight Open
Chavo Guerrero Jr.

Evening Gown Match
Torrie Wilson & Sable vs Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie

Chris Jericho vs. Christian

[Se7en the movie]

MY PREDICTIONS!

Triple Threat
World Title Match
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
vs. Chris Benoit

WINNER - CHRIS BENOIT (he deserves it more then anyone)

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

WINNER - GUERRERO

Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg
Special Guest Ref: Steve Austin

WINNER - LESNAR

WWE US Title Match
The Big Show vs. John Cena

WINNER - CENA

The Rock & Mick Foley vs.
Randy Orton, Batista, & Ric Flair

WINNER - ROCKY AND FOLEY

The Undertaker vs. Kane

WINNER - UNDERTAKER (he cant break he wrestlemania winning streak now!)

WWE Women’s Title Match
Victoria vs. Molly Holly

WINNER - VICTORIA

World Tag Team Titles Match
Booker T & RVD vs.
Jindrak & Cade vs.
La Resistance vs.
The Dudley Boyz

WINNER - BOOKER AND RVD

WWE Team Titles Match
Rikishi & Scotty Too Hotty vs.
Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin vs.
The Basham Brothers vs.
The APA (This is not Offical but it was announced on Velocity the other night)

WINNER - THE APA

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match
Cruiserweight Open

WINNER - CHAVO

Evening Gown Match
Torrie Wilson & Sable vs.
Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie

WINNER - STACY AND JACKIE (but who cares?)

Chris Jericho vs. Christian

WINNER - JERICHO

[IamMrDJ]

Just got this off of Rajah.


Posted by: Rajah on 3/7/2004

Raymond Fernandez, who was a WWF star in the 80s and a New Japan star in the 90s as the character “Hercules Hernandez”, was found dead on Saturday morning. He died in his sleep but the preliminary assumption is that he died from a heart attack.


This is very sad. I remember watching Hercules when he was part of Power and Glory.

[IamMrDJ]

SOme very unexpected news was posted on RajahWWF.com a few hours ago.


Posted by: J Bratcher on 3/8/2004

In some rather unexpected news, it appears as if Brock Lesnar may join Bill Goldberg in leaving the WWE sometime after this month’s WrestleMania XX pay-per-view. Lesnar is said to be discontent backstage and was very upset that he had to fly all the way to South Africa “just to wrestle Hardcore Holly” instead of being used in a higher profile match on the tour. With his long term contract reportedly signed for 7 years, Lesnar doesn’t feel he is being protected properly for the long term by the WWE. He is also upset that the current plan is for him to face the Undertaker as he feels he will likely “be fed” to the Undertaker, thus discounting his character. Lesnar isn’t alone in this thinking as many have voiced their opinions against the return of the no-selling “Deadman” gimmick. He and McMahon were said to have had a very intense discussion last week resulting in his considering to take some time off after WM XX. As of this report, the WWE isn’t making any post-WrestleMania plans involving Lesnar and have removed his name from all publicity material for upcoming shows.

Well this comes as somewhat of a surprise to me. I had read that some people backstage were getting upset at Brock for getting too big of a head, but I never knew he was this upset.

[Colorado Cajun]

wow Brock is going to screw himself royally

[Kyle Katarn]

In the words of a certian Superstar that will remain nameless...

WASSUP WIT DAT!?

[slinger]

slinger's

Triple Threat
World Title Match
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
vs. Chris Benoit

WINNER - HBK [he would recieve the most heel heat outside Montreal at Backlash, Benoit defeats him in Edmonton]

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

WINNER - GUERRERO [if the WWE wants to cement Eddie's status they need him to win ala Stone Cold, doesn't matter if Angle loses but it hurts Eddie if he loses]

Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg
Special Guest Ref: Steve Austin

WINNER - GOLDBERG [really a tossup.]

WWE US Title Match
The Big Show vs. John Cena

WINNER - CENA [should be main eventing this time next year]

The Rock & Mick Foley vs.
Randy Orton, Batista, & Ric Flair

WINNER - ROCKY AND FOLEY [then Orton & Foley would have a singles hardcore match at the next PPV]

The Undertaker vs. Kane

WINNER - KANE [sounds like the Deadman will be unbeatable once he goes back to Smackdown!, but it would be great for Kane as the only one to defeat him at WrestleMania. Outside help from Vince?]

WWE Women’s Title Match
Victoria vs. Molly Holly

WINNER - VICTORIA [Molly will then just wear different wigs each week]

World Tag Team Titles Match
Booker T & RVD vs.
Jindrak & Cade vs.
La Resistance vs.
The Dudley Boyz

WINNER - BOOKER AND RVD [what else are these guys going to do without the titles?]

WWE Team Titles Match
Rikishi & Scotty Too Hotty vs.
Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin vs.
The Basham Brothers vs.
The APA

WINNER - TWGTT [they deserve it]

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match
Cruiserweight Open

WINNER - CHAVO [great crusierweight heel]

Evening Gown Match
Torrie Wilson & Sable vs.
Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie

WINNER - STACY AND JACKIE [Jackie needs this]

Chris Jericho vs. Christian

WINNER - JERICHO [but there will be a rematch at Backlash]

[Rogue]

They just said over four hours! Over four hours of WWE! This'll be fantastic.

It's so good to have The Rock back..but *sigh* for how long?

[IamMrDJ]

SOrry Rogue but this might be his only appearence in WWE this year. He has got so many movies lined up.

So I have a question for all of you. During Triple H's interview didn't it seem like he kept hinting to the return of Edge. He kept saying the word Edge and I just got to thinking. With Edge currently training in OVW, maybe we could see Edge return Sunday and cost Triple H the title. This would set-up the Triple H vs. Edge feud and have HBK vs. BEnoit next month in Edmonton. If Triple H does lose I think they will give it to Shawn and most likely have him lose it next month.

[slinger]

Yeah I was thinking of that too. Maybe he just did that to mess with our heads. Edge needs a reason and it should be better than 'all year I saw you... sick and tired of...."

[ZombieMan]

My picks are...

Triple Threat World Title Match:
Triple H (c) vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit
WINNER: SHAWN MICHAELS (I figure him and Benoit will feud for the title for awhile after this).

WWE Heavyweight Title Match:
Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. Kurt Angle
WINNER: EDDIE GUERRERO (He is being pushed alot by WWE's creative team, so he should have the title for awhile).

Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg (Austin as guest ref):
WINNER: BROCK LESNAR (This would only be right if Goldberg is leaving after WM20 like everyone says. Wonder how the storyline for this would go)?

US Title Match:
Big Show (c) vs. John Cena
WINNER: JOHN CENA (Much improved wrestler who is getting a nice push lately).

Rock N' Sock Connection vs. Randy Orton, Batista, and Ric Flair:
WINNERS: ROCK N' SOCK CONNECTION (Foley will come back and have a match with Randy Orton at the next PPV).

Undertaker vs. Kane:
WINNER: UNDERTAKER (Taker will be "stronger than ever" once and again like they said before. He will "Kill" Kane at WM20 and Kane will take some time off).

Women's Title Match:
Victoria (c) vs. Molly Holly
WINNER: VICTORIA (Gosh, I dread this, but Molly will get her head shaved).

World Tag Team Title Match:
Booker T & RVD (c) vs. Jindrak & Cade vs. La Resistance vs. Dudleyz
WINNERS: JINDRAK AND CADE (These guys seem to be getting alot of attention lately and alot of talk about them, would be a good way to get them over).

WWE Tag Team Title Match:
Rikishi & Scotty 2 Hotty (c) vs. Haas & Benjamin vs. Bashams vs. APA
WINNERS: HAAS AND BENJAMIN (Total toss-up if you ask me, but personally I would like to see the APA win the titles).

Cruiserweight Open:
WINNER: CHAVO GUERRERO JR. (This man is getting pushed to the limit coming off the feud with Eddie, he will continue getting pushed for quite some time I think. WWE has seen the potential in this man finally).

Evening Gown Match:
Torrie Wilson & Sable vs. Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie
WINNERS: TORRIE WILSON AND SABLE (Toss-up).

Chris Jericho vs. Christian
WINNER: CHRIS JERICHO (I think this feud will last until the next PPV as well and I like it).

[ZombieMan]

My opinion on the Brock Lesnar bit posted up there about him wanting to leave WWE because he might have to do some jobbing to The Undertaker and not main eventing. He needs to grow up just a little bit and get some common sense. Damnit, not everyone can be in the main event and you gotta job every once in awhile to another wrestler. It can't always be your way.

[IamMrDJ]

Excatly, Zombie. John Cena had a long feud with Undertaker last year and look at him now. He is on the doorstep of the main event. I was reading a report on Rajah about John and how he is backstage.


Posted by: J Bratcher on 3/7/2004

* Those on the Smackdown roster say that John Cena’s popularity in the locker room continues and his push hasn’t gone to his head. He’s said to be very punctual and shows a genuine respect for the business, while abstaining from alcohol and drugs. One wrestler stated “Everyone is rooting for him to continue to get better in the ring so he can be a true top tier headliner.”


Also, Brock has gotten a very big head I have read lately. When he made his appearance on Raw a couple weeks ago he asked to borrow Vince's private jet to get there. This is a big no-no in the WWE. You don't ask the boss for his plane. The Rock, Austin, Undertaker and even Triple H have never asked to borrow the plane before. YEs they have flown in it but that was when invited by him.

IMO, Brock was pushed way too hard way too fasta dn he thinks he can have anything and everything he wants now. Hell, if I was a professional wrestler and was told that I was going to be "fed" to the Undertaker in a feud I would be grateful. I mean come on it is the Undertaker.

[slinger]

He already defeated him twice. He helped him get where he is today. I would do it. Fans would pay to see Brock be fed. More $$ for him.

[ZombieMan]

I'm in the wrestling business MrDJ and if I am told that I will be "fed" to another wrestler, I WILL DO IT! I actually enjoy losing sometimes because then after the match I get to put on more of a show and "act" like a cry baby and all pissed off. I enjoy that and how Brock is doing things, thats just not how the business works and I can't believe he is getting by with crap like this. Backstage its all about respect and it sounds like this man has a big issue with respect. You earn it, don't demand especially in the pro wrestling business. I have a feeling that Lesnar DEMANDS respect but doesn't give it back.

[LordofKings]

whats the latest on BRET HART possible appearing at WRESTLEMANIA? im waiting to order it, but i will not most likely if he's not there. Also, there is a good chance HART will make a full recovery from his stroke, is there a chance (though slim, i know), but is there a chance he could wrestle again, ever? he is still younger then hogan and flair...

thanks for the advanced info and help...

[stonefaced_1]

More on Brock Lesnar's decision to leave the WWE
Submitted by Tom Guzik on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 12:21 PM EST


It seems that Lesnar's announcement of his intentions to leave the WWE, came yesterday at the weekly pre-show talent meeting that are held for both of the brand shows.

He has stated that he is leaving, to pursue a career in the NFL. This comes after Lesnar revealed to co-workers that he has been very upset as of late about the direction of his character, and just generally feeling "burned-out" with the travelling etc. - more recently with the tour to South Africa.

As reported before as well, Lesnar was also not keen on being "fed" to the Undertaker after WrestleMania, especially when The Undertaker's old gimmick is all about "not selling" for the other wrestler.

Lesnar thanked Vince McMahon, Jim Ross, and Gerry Brisco for finding him "in college", and also gave thanks to both Paul Heyman and The Big Show for helping him with his wrestling career. He was said to be very emotional after the announcement, and at this point in time, it seems that WrestleMania 20 will be the last time we see Brock Lesnar not just in an WWE ring, but wrestling altogether.



Credit: PWInsider.com

The WWE is screwed in my eyes. They have a major problem, with both Goldberg and Lesnar leaving they are losing two of their biggest stars.

The WWE needs to re-sign Goldberg. They absolutely need to. Give him what he wants, he's worth it.

Sure his in ring skills aren't that good, but his name still carries some value as far as drawing fans for ppv's.

[IamMrDJ]

THey don't need either of those two. All that Goldberg is, is just a name. HIs in-ring skills are nothing to brag about and he isn't that good on the mic either. The WWE had hoped for him to be as big in WWE as he was in WCW but he wasn't adn never will be.

Lesner was pushed way too fast and way too hard. He got a big head and now they are trying to deflate it for him and he isn't having it. I doubt that he will be able to make it in the NFL, he is too suseptable to injuries after being in the ring for the last few years. HE does need to thank all of the superstars he has and the other wrestlers he ahs feuded with. He was helped along by all of the wrestlers. HE has no mic skills, te best mic time he ever had was when Paul was talking for him.

The WWE is not screwedin my eyes. Both of these guys are too big IMO. Look at the WWE Title match at WrestleMania, it is Eddie vs. Kurt. Eddie is a smaller wrestler who is more technical as is Kurt. They don't rely on brute force and power but more skills. Brock does have skills but he has forgotten how to use them. Goldberg on the other hand just relies on Power and has no real in-ring skill.

Also, LordofKings. Bret has turned down an invitation to WrestleMania from Vince. HOwever, he has left the door open for a future return visits, it just won't be this sunday.

[LordofKings]

thanks once again, MRDJ. i guess i wont be ordering wrestlemani, well i probable will since michaels is wrestling. will there be live updates and announcment of winners here on sunday?

[IamMrDJ]

Oh you should order it, the PPV is going to be great.

[LordofKings]

im thinking about it, but its so much. but madison square garden will not disappoint, i know that. MrDJ, anything big you expect to happem (any returns of ex stars). also, whats new with the OUTSIDERS? i read something somewqhere saying they may and plan to return to WWE after wrestlemania? and i would love to see sting come back...WWE could use him.

[IamMrDJ]

They won't be coming back to WWE. THey tried signing Nash to a smaller deal for him to be a road agent but he turned it down. They don't want to invest a large amount of money in a wrestler who has been injured more often then not during his last tenure in WWE. As for Scott Hall he is not on good terms with the WWE. They gave him so many chances and kept blowing them.

Right now NAsh is finishing rehabbing his latest injury from filming the Punisher adn he and Hall are looking to work some shows in Japan, I think for New Japan Wrestling.

[stonefaced_1]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
THey don't need either of those two. All that Goldberg is, is just a name. HIs in-ring skills are nothing to brag about and he isn't that good on the mic either. The WWE had hoped for him to be as big in WWE as he was in WCW but he wasn't adn never will be.

Lesner was pushed way too fast and way too hard. He got a big head and now they are trying to deflate it for him and he isn't having it. I doubt that he will be able to make it in the NFL, he is too suseptable to injuries after being in the ring for the last few years. HE does need to thank all of the superstars he has and the other wrestlers he ahs feuded with. He was helped along by all of the wrestlers. HE has no mic skills, te best mic time he ever had was when Paul was talking for him.

The WWE is not screwedin my eyes. Both of these guys are too big IMO. Look at the WWE Title match at WrestleMania, it is Eddie vs. Kurt. Eddie is a smaller wrestler who is more technical as is Kurt. They don't rely on brute force and power but more skills. Brock does have skills but he has forgotten how to use them. Goldberg on the other hand just relies on Power and has no real in-ring skill.



1. Lesnar wasn't pushed too fast or too hard. They brought him in as a dominant heel and he didn't disappoint. They slowly pushed him towards the title. He had quality opponents and quality matches.

2. Goldberg doesn't have great in ring skills, but he does have some drawing power. Some people will still pay to see him wrestle. It would help the WWE to have him headline some PPV's. He hasn't cocked off backstage other than that one confrontation with Chris Jericho. The fact is they need Goldberg.

I heard WMXX is 6 hours long is that true?

[IamMrDJ]

WrestleMania has the PPV slot for five hours. It will most likely go four and a half hours or maybe four hours and fourty-five minutes.

[LordofKings]

what happened backstage between jericho and goldberg?

[ZombieMan]

I'm SOOOOO excited about WM20 that its not even funny! This is going to be a great PPV.

[slinger]

Originally posted by stonefaced_1
1. Lesnar wasn't pushed too fast or too hard. They brought him in as a dominant heel and he didn't disappoint. They slowly pushed him towards the title. He had quality opponents and quality matches.

2. Goldberg doesn't have great in ring skills, but he does have some drawing power. Some people will still pay to see him wrestle. It would help the WWE to have him headline some PPV's. He hasn't cocked off backstage other than that one confrontation with Chris Jericho. The fact is they need Goldberg.

I heard WMXX is 6 hours long is that true?

He appeared on the RAW after WrestleMania. He won KOTR (3rd PPV) which earned him a title shot at SummerSlam (5th PPV) and didn't lose until Survivor Series (8th PPV) To me that's a pretty fast push. But it worked well with the WWE.

Eric Bischoff said the fans told him what to do with Goldberg. 7 minute match. The WWE could use him but now that Lesner and Goldberg are gone some more talent (Benoit, Cena, Eddie, Orton) can get the spotlight. I could see the WWE ponning up the dough so Goldberg would go over to SD! if Lesner leaves. Or maybe Kane will go to SD!

[slinger]

Originally posted by LordofKings
what happened backstage between jericho and goldberg?

Can't remember exactly this was last April/May I think. Anyway Jericho won the altercation since he's more talented and smaller. It made the Jericho/Goldberg feud a little more interesting in June.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger


Eric Bischoff said the fans told him what to do with Goldberg. 7 minute match. The WWE could use him but now that Lesner and Goldberg are gone some more talent (Benoit, Cena, Eddie, Orton) can get the spotlight. I could see the WWE ponning up the dough so Goldberg would go over to SD! if Lesner leaves. Or maybe Kane will go to SD!

Goldberg won't resign beucase WWE wants him to give up all his other wrestling gigs (i.e. in Japan) and work full-time for them but get paid less then he makes now and work more dates.

[slinger]

Well they do have the Brock Lesner money that's free now if that's the case. But yeah Goldberg only seemed to be enjoying his time in the fall and then fell apart.

Apparently the WWE will have a new logo, and WM20 will show it off. Probably show the 'E' in the new one.

[stonefaced_1]

Well, they have to find someone to fill the void of where Brock Lesnar was.

[ZombieMan]

Honestly, I like Brock Lesnar as a wrestler but I don't like his personality from I've heard of him backstage. I would rather have Lesnar in WWE than Goldberg. I don't care for Goldberg anymore, I liked the man when he was in WCW better. This sucks that Brock is acting like this and supposedly going to play for the NFL. Lesnar needs to grow up and realize that he can't have anything he wants, thats all.

[jbailey84]

holy cow i cant believe that Brock Lesnar wants to quit! i get a wrestling newsletter and read that...im dissappointed...that sucks..

[Halofan1]

3 Days...cannot wait...

[slinger]

RajahWWF.com -

We have some notes from the WrestleMania XX Press Conference at Planet Hollywood in New York City.

It was a bumpy ride throughout the whole press conference. First, as Vince McMahon mentioned the brand extension fans started to boo him.

Secondly, when Paul Heyman came out a loud “ECW” chant broke out. It was so loud that the proceedings had to stop until the fans calmed down. Triple H commented, “This is WrestleMania, not a bingo parlor.” Heyman grinded and later said to Triple H that he grew up in New York City watching great champions defending their WWE titles at Madison Square Garden, and not the belt that Triple H holds now.

Another incident occurred when Brock Lesnar came out, fans started chanting and yelling at Brock about leaving the company, some calling him a “quitter”. No one mentioned the Lesnar situation, not Brock, Vince or anyone on the panel. Brock simply stared furiously at the portions of the crowd chanting.

This was mainly a collage of promos from the wrestlers followed by brief Q and A session.

Jonathan Coachman hosted the conference, with Eric Bischoff announcing the RAW brand matches, Paul Heyman announcing the SmackDown brand matches, and Vince McMahon announcing the inter-promotional matches.

Shawn Michaels said he would once again be the “showstopper” at WrestleMania, Chris Benoit said he had worked his entire career for this match and Triple H stated that he would walk out of Madison Square Garden still the champion.

Kane came out in street clothes and sporting sunglasses. He said that he buried The Undertaker before and would do so again on Sunday. His match was announced by Vince McMahon as an inter-promotional match, hinting that the ‘Taker is still a SmackDown wrestler.

Eddie Guerrero talked about how much he loves the business. Kurt Angle talked about how excited he was for this match and stated that he hadn’t been this excited since the Olympics.

John Cena did a rap promo about how he is the new “Repo-man”, because he will be stealing the show. Big Show said he would be retaining the U.S. championship.

The Divas appeared, but said nothing note worthy.

Brock Lesnar said that he was “next”, and will destroy Bill Goldberg on Sunday. Goldberg talked about how WrestleMania would be the pinnacle of his professional career. Steve Austin said that if any one of the two gets out of line, he would have to kick both their asses.

Only three questions were taken before everyone parted to individual interviews. McMahon was asked who would sing “America the Beautiful” at this year’s event, he revealed that the Harlem Boys Choir would. He was then asked if WrestleMania was expected to become such a major event, he said yes because wrestling needed a Super Bowl or World Series that have a beginning and ending to every year. Vince was also asked if there would be any surprise appearances at the show, he said the usual “Anything can happen” response and mentioned that the Hall of Fame inductees would be a part of the show.

[jbailey84]

wow what a press conference,hehe. would have loved to hear that ECW chant and to see Brocks stare down when the fans were chanting Quitter and all.

does anyone know when the WM XX DVD will be released?

[IamMrDJ]

It is tenativley schedlued to be released on April 27th of this year. It will be a 3 disc set.

[slinger]

Results of the 10 Greatest WM Matches, voted by WWE wrestlers. From Rajah.com

Ric Flair welcomes us to the show and he starts counting down to the #1 Wrestlemania match.

#10 – Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle – Wrestlemania X7 (2001)

This one was a very intense and physical match, with the two wrestlers each using the other’s finishers and kicking out. Angle wins this match after rolling Benoit up with a handful of tights.

#9 – Hulk Hogan © vs. Ultimate Warrior (WWE Title) – Wrestlemania VI (1990)

Both men are down, Ultimate Warrior is the first up and he uses the Gorilla Press Slam followed by the big splash to finish Hulk Hogan off, but wait! Hogan kicks out! Hogan goes for the running leg drop, but Ultimate Warrior rolls out of the way and connects with the big splash and goes for the pin. Hulk Hogan kicks out just after the three count, but Ultimate Warrior becomes the next WWE Champion!

Commercial Break

#8 – Shawn Michaels © vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin (WWE Title, Special Enforcer: Mike Tyson) – Wrestlemania XIV (1998)

Shawn Michaels outmaneuvers Stone Cold early in the match, but it’s not long before Stone Cold regains offense. As HBK and Stone Cold are outside the ring, Triple H interferes, resulting in Mike Tyson sending him and Chyna away from ringside. This is one brutal match-up. Both men are now down, HBK kips up and hits his elbow drop, and goes for the Sweet Chin Music, but Stone Cold ducks, and goes for a Stunner, but HBK stops him and tries again for the Sweet Chin Music, but Stone Cold catches his leg and delivers a Stunner. Mike Tyson gets into the ring and counts to three, allowing Stone Cold to become the next WWE Champion!

#7 – Hulk Hogan & Mr. T (w/ Jimmy Snuka) vs. Paul Orndorff & “Rowdy” Roddy Piper (w/ Cowboy Bob Orton) – Wrestlemania I (1985)

This is an all-out brawl between all four men. Paul Orndorff & Roddy Piper seems to be in control for most of the match, but Hogan tags in Mr. T and they clean house. Jimmy Snuka and Cowboy Bob Orton take on each other, but then Bob Orton goes up top and goes to hit a double axe handle on Hogan, but inadvertently hits Orndorff instead, allowing Hogan to pick up the win for his team.

Commercial Break

Before we hear from Flair, we see a clip of Ric Flair latching the Figure Four on the Undertaker at Wrestlemania X8

#6 – Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin (Submission Match, Special Guest Referee: Ken Shamrock) – Wrestlemania XIII (1997)

Bret Hart manages to turn Stone Cold into a bloody mess by ramming his head into a metal security barrier as well as beating him down with a chair. Stone Cold manages to get all fired up and let’s loose on Bret Hart, which included choking Bret Hart with the ropes. Bret Hart smacks him with the bell, and then later manages to put Stone Cold into the Sharpshooter. Stone Cold manages to break it up for a moment before he’s put back into it.

The end comes when special guest referee Ken Shamrock stops the match because Stone Cold has passed out from the pain.

#5 – Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs. The Rock – Wrestlemania X8 (2002)

The crowd’s cheering for both competitors. They get into a shoving war and The Rock manages to lay the smack down on Hogan, which gets him some boos. The Rock has Hogan in the sharpshooter, to which Hogan taps out. However, there’s no ref to see it. The Rock whips him Hogan’s belt. The Rock connects with the Rock Bottom, but Hogan kicks out. Hogan connects with the running leg drop, but The Rock kicks out. The Rock finishes Hogan off with two Rock Bottoms followed by the People’s Elbow to win this historic match. To top it all off, they shake hands and they show their respect for each other.

Ric Flair taunts the Rock & Sock Connection and we’re at our next commercial break.

#4 – Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat vs. Randy “Macho Man” Savage (Intercontinental Title) – Wrestlemania III (1987)

Both men cut some rather intense promos and Savage is in control of the Dragon. Dragon comes back with some offense of his own, and as Savage charges, the Dragon lifts him over and out to the mat. It’s a pretty good match and the end comes when Savage goes to slam the Dragon, but the Dragon rolls Savage into an inside cradle for the win and the IC title.

#3 – Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels (Intercontinental Title, Ladder Match) – Wrestlemania X (1994)

Razor Ramon takes charge of Shawn Michaels, but Diesel interferes, resulting in him getting thrown out. It’s a hard fought battle, folks, and we see HBK fly off the ladder and splashing Razor Ramon. Shawn Michaels ALMOST had the belts, but Razor Ramon knocks over the ladder and both men are down. Shawn Michaels goes to whip Razor into the ladder, but Razor switches it and HBK hits the ladder and flies out of the ring. This time it’s Razor who almost has the belts, but HBK flies off the top and knocks the ladder over.

Razor’s under the ladder and HBK was a matter of seconds away from becoming the IC Champ, but Razor knocks the ladder over, which results in HBK’s leg getting tangled in the ropes when he lands. Razor manages to climb the ladder and take the belts down, making him the Undisputed WWE Intercontinental Champion.

Commercial Break

#2 – The Dudley Boyz vs. The Hardy Boyz vs. Edge & Christian (Triangle Ladder Match, WWE Tag Team Title) – Wrestlemania XVI (2000)

This match is brutality defined. There are people crashing on the ladders, flying off the top of the ladders, bodies broken, and so much more as happened during this match. It’s very hard to tell who will come out the tag champs. The end comes when Edge & Christian use two ladders and a table to create a scaffold. They take the titles down and you have your WWE Tag Team Champions.

Commercial Break

I can’t wait to find out what the #1 Wrestlemania match is, but as we come back, Ric Flair tells us that our #1 match will be:

#1 – Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (60 Minute Iron Man Match) – Wrestlemania XII (1996)

This is the greatest Wrestlemania match ever, and it’s not hard to see why. Both men have put everything they have on the line and it’s only moments before we will find out which man will come out victorious. Two minutes left and HBK connects with a moonsault, but Bret Hart kicks out. 50 seconds remaining, HBK flies off the top, but Bret Hart catches him and locks on the Sharpshooter. HBK refuses to tap out, and the time’s up. Bret Hart retains the WWE title, but Gorilla Monsoon orders the match be continued under sudden death rules. Bret Hart doesn’t like it, and so goes berserk on Shawn Michaels. Shawn Michaels connects with the Sweet Chin Music, but he can’t make the cover. Shawn Michaels gets up and hits another Sweet Chin Music and here lies before you, the next WWE Champion! Pyro goes off and HBK’s boyhood dream has come true.

Ric Flair plugs Wrestlemania XX again, lets out a few WOOOs, and that’s the show. I hope you enjoyed it. Remember to tune into Wrestlemania XX this Sunday, where it all begins….again.

[IamMrDJ]

Some of these matches could have been re-organized. Austin vs. HBK w/ Tyson and Warrior vs. Hogan But I was happy seeing he Ironman match as #1.

[Inval1d]

is anyone going to watch the Behind the Wrestlemania documentary tonight? It looks cool.

[IamMrDJ]

I will be recording it on my Tivo. It is also going to be on the WrestleMania XX 3-DVD set.

[Inval1d]

That's cool to hear. I'm definetly going to get the DVD then.

My Wrestlemania XX Predictions:

Chris Jericho VS. Christian
Winner: I would want Y2J to Win, but I feel that Christian will cheat his way through this or Trish will cost Y2J the Match.

CruiserweightOpen For Cruiserweight Title
Champion: Chavo
Winner: Rey Mysterio. Lots of high-flying risks. Maybe the return of Jeff Hardy.

WWE Team Titles Match
Champions: Rikishi & Scotty Too Hotty vs. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin vs. The Basham Brothers vs. The APA
Winners: TWGTT will steal it from Rikishi and Scotty.

World Tag Team Titles Match
Champions: Booker T & RVD vs. Jindrak & Cade vs. La Resistance vs. The Dudley Boyz
Winners: The Dudley Boys in a all out brawl.

Playboy Evening Gown Match
Torrie Wilson & Sable vs. Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie
Winners: Torrie & Sable. This match will feature Puppies Galore.

WWE Women's Title Match (If Molly loses, her head is shaved)
Champion: Victoria vs. Molly Holly
Winner: Molly. I don't think they would actually shave her head on the biggest stage of WWE

Kane vs. The Undertaker
Winner: Undertaker. He will return as the Deadman and send Kane straight to hell.

The Rock & Mick Foley vs. Randy Orton, Batista, & Ric Flair
Winner: The Rock N' Sock Connection. Foley has been beaten and screwed the last couple of weeks, now it's his turn to screw them.

WWE US Title Match
Champion: The Big Show vs. John Cena
Winner: John Cena. He will find a way to beat Show.

Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg (Special Ref: Stone Cold)
Winner: Goldberg. Lesnar is leaving WWE. Austin will screw him out of the match.

WWE Title Match
Champion: Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle
Winner: Kurt Angle. I want Eddie to keep the title but I know Kurt will regain the gold.

Triple-Threat World Title Match
Champion: HHH vs. HBK vs. Chris Benoit
Winner: HBK or Benoit but I suspect HHH will keep the title like usual and then lose it to Benoit at Backlash

[slinger]

Rajah.com

Thank’s to The Wrestling Guys radio team for the following:

Jim Ross discussed Brock Lesnar, this weekend’s 20th Wrestlemania, Steve Austin’s current health situation and a whole lot more, on The Wrestling Guys Radio Show on Wednesday night. The Wrestling Guys can be heard on 910 WPFB in Cincinnati and Dayton, Ohio at 6 p.m. every Wednesday. You can listen to the interview at the redesigned TheWrestlingGuys.com (http://www.thewrestlingguys.com), as well as past interviews with Eric Bischoff and Bobby Heenan over the last month.

Jim Ross on Brock Lesnar:

“He’s a great kid. I have a lot of respect for Brock. I like him. He grew up on a farm in South Dakota and I grew up on a farm in Oklahoma. I followed him in college. Jerry Brisco and I recruited him. Jerry Brisco primarily recruited him. Brock’s coach (his wrestling coach at the University of Minnesota), Jay Robertson, was a college wresting teammate with Brisco at Oklahoma State. We got Sheldon Benjamin and Brock off that team. We have a lot things to say about Brock. He’s a good kid, very athletic and has a lot of opportunities in this world for him. Whatever decisions are made will be finalized after Wrestlemania, that’s our focus. ”

On recent media coverage of Brock Lesnar:

“Some things I’ve read on the internet are somewhat accurate. A lot of things you read, its someone getting someone’s opinion over the telephone, because the internet fellas aren’t normally behind the scenes. They aren’t reporters who are asking questions and don’t have access to people on an official basis. You can’t believe everything you read. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. I can tell you this, Brock Lesnar is highly regarded in our office and probably the most highly regarded athlete we’ve picked up in the talent department.”

On Lesnar’s match at Wrestlemania:

“He’ll be at his best on Sunday. Goldberg will be challenged to match him athletically in that match, and I know that’s something Bill will do.”

On Steve Austin’s rise in physical involvment on television:

“I think what you’re seeing is Steve continuing to feel better. His quality of life and level of health is improving. I would not say that Austin will not wrestle a match again. I don’t think that would be accurate or honest. With that said, we don’t have any matches for Steve on the drawing board, or anything on for Wrestlemania 21, or “he’ll at return Summerslam,” or “we’ll wait until we do Houston Astrodome again.” People will start booking this match when they hear it, it will take on different incarnations. He feels great, he is in excellent condition. His head is good, his fire is burning. He still, unfortunately, has some health limitations that will never go away. If his overall general health continues to improve, it might allow him to work a retirement match at an ideal circumstance and an ideal time of place.”

On Mick Foley and Rock being prepared for their match at Wrestlemania:

“From a pure wrestling match, Rock and Foley may be taxed if the match goes long, but it being a tag should help. With Rock, Foley and Flair in the same match, it can’t help but be good.”

On changing wrestling style:

“We’re trying to get back to a more fundamentally sound presentation in-ring presentation for our wrestlers. Doing acrobatic moves is very hollow. It doesn’t allow the fan to make a long term emotional investment in a match. The game of human chess, as Gordon Solie used to say, is still a factor in the basics of human nature… Its going to allow these young men and women to have a longer career and not deal with these horrific and nagging injuries.”

[Inval1d]

has anyone esle seen this?

from wrestling-edge.com

:A new logo will be unveiled at WrestleMania XX, signifying the end of the attitude era and the start of a new direction for the company."

I wonder what it will look like?

[Se7en the movie]

Originally posted by slinger
#6 – Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin (Submission Match, Special Guest Referee: Ken Shamrock) – Wrestlemania XIII (1997)

Bret Hart manages to turn Stone Cold into a bloody mess by ramming his head into a metal security barrier as well as beating him down with a chair. Stone Cold manages to get all fired up and let’s loose on Bret Hart, which included choking Bret Hart with the ropes. Bret Hart smacks him with the bell, and then later manages to put Stone Cold into the Sharpshooter. Stone Cold manages to break it up for a moment before he’s put back into it.

The end comes when special guest referee Ken Shamrock stops the match because Stone Cold has passed out from the pain.


that match was at wresltmania 14 with no shamrock and the same ending of stone cold passing out. Unless there was two of them!

[Halofan1]

Originally posted by slinger

#2 – The Dudley Boyz vs. The Hardy Boyz vs. Edge & Christian (Triangle Ladder Match, WWE Tag Team Title) – Wrestlemania XVI (2000)

This match is brutality defined. There are people crashing on the ladders, flying off the top of the ladders, bodies broken, and so much more as happened during this match. It’s very hard to tell who will come out the tag champs. The end comes when Edge & Christian use two ladders and a table to create a scaffold. They take the titles down and you have your WWE Tag Team Champions.


That was the only good match from that WrestleMania. Everything else about it sucked.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Se7en the movie
that match was at wresltmania 14 with no shamrock and the same ending of stone cold passing out. Unless there was two of them!

Sorry but you are mistaken. WrestleMania XIV was with Steve vs. HBK with Tyson as the enforcer. The year before was Mania XIII with Bret vs. Austin when he passed out.

[Inval1d]

The Mania of Wrestlemania was great!

some of those facts they said about some wrestlers I didn't even know. Like Austin going to the hospital the day before WM IX or Angle going into shock after his match with Lesnar.

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah the Austin fact is in the beginning of his book. I was shcoked when I read that.

[slinger]

1 day 9 hours 54 minutes

[ZombieMan]

OOOOH its drawing closer and closer. I can't wait until tomorrow, maybe I willl just take a tranquilizer so it will come faster. LMAO, no but anyhow, the matches I look most forward to are The Undertaker vs. Kane and believe it or not Big Show vs. John Cena. I am not a fan on Cena's gimmick but the guy can wrestle like crazy, and I can't wait to see how he will take the Big Show down because I'm pretty sure that Cena will pull off the win.

[IamMrDJ]

OK here you go straight from the man himself. This was posted in Rajah.com. Hopefuly this will put to rest and rumors or suspicions about Bret HArt apearing.


Bret Hart stated the following in a Calgary Sun article: “I’ll be watching, but I won’t be there. Let’s just leave it at that, for now.” He also made a special point of wishing Chris Benoit luck in arguably the biggest match of his career. As we have been reporting, Bret Hart will NOT be at WMXX.

[LordofKings]

that finalizes all my hopes, but i did expect he would not show, but his comments make it seem that he might return one day...

[Se7en the movie]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Sorry but you are mistaken. WrestleMania XIV was with Steve vs. HBK with Tyson as the enforcer. The year before was Mania XIII with Bret vs. Austin when he passed out.

sorry, thats what i meant but at Mania XIII with bret v austin i dont think shamrock was enforcer was he? awesome match by the way........

[IamMrDJ]

Shamrock was the special referee in the match not the enforcer

[slinger]

Here's the line to Bret's article that talks about past WMs and saying no (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Hitman/2004/03/13/381281.html)

He didn't say Backlash or RAW in Calgary...

[LordofKings]

is it true that shawn and bret really hate each other? wasn't that rumored that they never liked each other. They really did have a great feud (the best ever in my opinion), and it appeared they generally disliked one another.

in that documentery a few years i ago that i saw, and which showed the behind the scenes after the "SCREWJOB", shawn really looked like he had no idea that Vince was going to SCREW BRET and looked upset for Hart.

Anyone have the real history or story between them?

and also, will someone be posting the results of the matches as they happen?

[slinger]

Originally posted by LordofKings
is it true that shawn and bret really hate each other? wasn't that rumored that they never liked each other. They really did have a great feud (the best ever in my opinion), and it appeared they generally disliked one another.

in that documentery a few years i ago that i saw, and which showed the behind the scenes after the "SCREWJOB", shawn really looked like he had no idea that Vince was going to SCREW BRET and looked upset for Hart.

Anyone have the real history or story between them?

and also, will someone be posting the results of the matches as they happen?

Shawn said two years ago on a WWE TV show that he knew about the whole thing. Shawn has said he's changed from his ways, but Hart still thinks he's a guy that will shake your hand and then stab you in the back minutes later. He also said Trips was a asskisser and wasn't one of the boys in the locker room. They both did seperate interviews on Off The Record, a sports show here in Canada. I think HBK said he would appear on the show with Bret if Bret wanted too. Anyway the two will never get along.
The following is an article from SLAM! Wrestling:

Questions are being raised about a story circulating earlier this week that WWE superstar Brock Lesnar is quitting the professional wrestling business.

According to a report in the ‘Star Tribune’ newspaper out of Minneapolis - St. Paul, Minnesota, the NFL’s Minnesota Vikings have heard the news like everyone else but nothing is in the works with Lesnar. Mike Tice, the coach of the Vikings, told reporter Mark Craig that the franchise hasn’t even spoken to Lesnar but it is true the team is looking for a defensive lineman.

Lesnar’s college wrestling coach also told the ‘Star Tribune’ that he doesn’t put any stock in the rumour as Lesnar has expressed an interest in a football career before but never explored the option.

“He’s making millions in wrestling; he just bought a plane,” Gophers wrestling coach J Robinson said. “What would you do? Give it all up with no guarantee of making it in the NFL? I think they’re trying to hype WrestleMania.”

Earlier this week, news circulated that Lesnar made his retirement announcement to the entire Smackdown! staff before the taping on Tuesday night. It is claimed that he cited stress and the travel schedule as the main reasons why his match at WrestleMania XX will be his last. Since Lesnar’s foe at ‘Mania - Bill Goldberg - is rumoured to be leaving the WWE after the event, some believe the Lesnar story is all a work to inject interest into the match.

- He probably is drained physically and mentally, and take some time off but it's just stuff to make the match more interesting since for once it's uncertain on who would win the match. Vince probably just said to say nothing. He hates wrestling sites but this is good for business.

[slinger]

23 hours 4 minutes

Just found out my cable provider is switching channels around, so now no more Smackdown unless I want spend more $. I don't usually watch the show, but its still nice to tune in from time to time and also the other stuff on the channel. Its only been available in Canada since November 2000.

[Kyle Katarn]

That sucks...I had to shell out more $$$ to DirecTV to keep Spike TV and Raw...It's a conspiracy I tell ya! :mad:

[IamMrDJ]

you had to pay more to DirecTV. My bills didn't increase. I know Disn Network is gonna have to pay more now with the new contract they signed with Viacom

[Kyle Katarn]

It's like they 're-classified' Spike, SciFi, and a handful of other stations into a different package...*grumble bastards grumble*

[IamMrDJ]

Just got this off of Rajah.com a couple hous ago.


Brian Lawler, better known as Grandmaster Sexay, has checked into the hotel where all the WWE guys are staying. Don’t be surprised if we catch him back up Rikishi and Scotty 2 Hotty. Of course this is no where near confirmed.


This would be very interesting to see. I know WWE has been looking at him for awhile. This might be the big former superstar return I have been expecting. Jeff HArdy will not be returning because he has yet to attend rehab as requested by the WWE.

[Warren]

I don't really like the Undertaker as a wrestler, but god damn I want to see the Dead Man tonight. That gimmick kicked ass.


Too bad I don't have PPV. :(

[Se7en the movie]

the undertaker is a quality wrestler, i mean watch any of his matches against kane or any hell in a cell (except possibly the 6-man hell in a cell, that one kinda sucked), he has cleared the ropes in one giant leap which is pretty amazing for a guy of his size. But he has had his bad matches, of course he has, who hasnt had them? *thinks of mike awesome*, ah nevermind.........

[Inval1d]

less than 3 more hours left. I'm freakin excited. I'm having a big WM XX party with it too. Are any of yall having a party for it?

[Halofan1]

Originally posted by Inval1d
less than 3 more hours left. I'm freakin excited. I'm having a big WM XX party with it too. Are any of yall having a party for it?

Just gonna sit back with Mr. Pizza and enjoy the show.

[Inval1d]

Does Mrs. Pizza know about this??

[Colorado Cajun]

Why does Jeff need rehab?

Also I was never a big fan of Lawler

[Inval1d]

he had drug problems while he was in WWE

[Colorado Cajun]

Hardy did? I know Lawler did, but all I ever heard on Jeff was antidepressants

[Kyle Katarn]

I never knew Jeff was on drugs either...just thought he got burned out...

[slinger]

Oooo the Rock and Sock right now!

Jericho was dumped! Saw that coming, great match. Trish is way better as a heel.

[LordofKings]

anyone have a recap so far

[Warren]

Spoilers, if you want to reorder or something:

-John Cena def. Big Show
-RVD/Booker T retain World Tag Team Championship
-Christian def. Chris Jericho, with botched interference from Trish. Then Trish helped Christian beat up Jericho. Heel turn.
-Evolution def. Rock n' Sock Connection when Orton pinned Foley.
-Torrie Wilson pinned Jackie Gayda in the Playboy Evening Gown match.
-Chavo wins Cruiserweight Open.

[slinger]

Oh yes! What a ****ing awesome ending!

Eddie and Benoit are hugging and crying in the ring! Confetti!
Sharpshooter on HHH, Crossface on HHH! I didn't think he would win... oh that was a damn good PPV!

[Inval1d]

Undertaker should of had his costume from the Dead man of 1999. he looked still like the biker taker.

Anyways, his entrance was awesome.

[Knerys]

Entrance was cool, but when I saw his costume I was like "he's went cowboy!"

[Inval1d]

not just an ordinary cowboy....a Dead Cowboy! :D

Molly is bald too. :funny:

[slinger]

WWE US Title Match
The Big Show vs. John Cena

World Tag Team Titles Match
Booker T & RVD vs.
Jindrak & Cade vs.
La Resistance vs.
The Dudley Boyz
Didn't see these matches, but will watch them on the replay.

Chris Jericho vs. Christian
Great stuff, each did their own thing and was a PPV worthy match. WrestleMania is supposed to end storylines but this one will keep on going. Trish was smoking hot, she's heel again and Christain only gets better. Jericho had the fans into it.

The Rock & Mick Foley vs.
Randy Orton, Batista, & Ric Flair
Figured Rock would pin Flair, but that was not the case. However, Flair and Rock were hilarious, each mocking each other. Disapointed that Orton pinned Foley only bc I thought they would continue you it with a one on one match. Still very entertaining.

Evening Gown Match
Torrie Wilson & Sable vs.
Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie
Well I had to get my supper prepared during this match, some nice skin, Torrie was trying to pull Jackie's panties off after the match don't know what that was about.

WWE Cruiserweight Title Match
Cruiserweight Open
Excellent idea. Showcased the cruiserweight talent the WWE has. Would love to see this again at SummerSlam. Chavo cheats to win. Mysterio needs to go onto better things this year.

Backlash coming next month from Edmonton!


Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg
Special Guest Ref: Steve Austin
Okay the top five wrestling crowds goes like this. #5 Boston, #4 Philly, #3 Montreal #2 Toronto #1 NYC. The "You sold out!" chant was something I (and Brock) won't forget. Most disapointing match of the night. The fans made the match. Goldberg did win clean over Lesner. Will Lesner flee the WWE? The big suprise of the match wasn't Goldie winning clean was Austin not getting involved at all. Stunners were after the match.

WWE Team Titles Match
Rikishi & Scotty Too Hotty vs.
Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin vs.
The Basham Brothers vs.
The APA

Beh. Didn't care too much for this match. TWGTT should've walked away champs. It was dead quiet at the start. But there weren't any BORING chants like in the Goldberg/Lesner match.

WrestleMania 21 is in LA's Staple Center!

WWE Women’s Title Match
Victoria vs. Molly Holly
Bad ending. The Widow's Peak is a cool finishing move, why not use it? Molly was looking good with her hair and well the bald head does not suit her. I'm expecting a wig ala Kurt Angle.

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle
Well I was expecting this match to be match of the night. Well it was the 2nd best. I like both and either result would leave me happy, but Eddie neeede the win. Fantastic ending! Eddie's boot comes loses, escapes the ankle lock, rolls up Angle, uses the rope, retains! This isn't over.

The Undertaker vs. Kane
I never got to see old school Taker, only the Biker, but it was still something I wanted to see. His hair wasn't that long, Kane reversed The old school rope walking yet he doesn't win? Should've been the other way. Anywho uses the old Tombstone to end it.

Triple Threat
World Title Match
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
vs. Chris Benoit
Well I was convinced that Benoit would win at home, but the fans at MSG were convinced that Benoit deserved to win and well he won. Match of the year, a WrestleMania Classic. The fans did not win HHH to win, every time he had HBK or Benoit set up for the Pedigree the boos railed out. Don't remember HBK ever that bloody. Benoit crashing through the the annouce table - thought that was it. They had all three booths ringside, but only one was destroyed. I feel cheated. Couldn't believe the fans were cheering Benoit when he tried to put HBK in the Hart-like Sharpshooter. Then Trips who was also sporting a crimson mask is put into a long sharpshooter, the fans were begging for him to tap out. Then some SweetChinMusic on Benoit, no... hopes dashed... HBK knocked out of the ring, CripplerCrossFace locked on Hunter and he tapped. Amazing!

Cue the WrestleMania Highligh Reel....
The screens on the floor for the entrances were brilliant. WWE Hall of Fame, nicely done. Ventura interviewing Vince's buddy The Donald. Ventura wants a wrestler in the White House in 2008.

[Inval1d]

From WWE.com:

Brock Lesnar opts to put WWE career on hold

Brock Lesnar has made a personal decision to put his WWE career on hold to prepare to tryout for the National Football League this season. Brock has wrestled his entire professional career in the WWE and we are proud of his accomplishments and wish him the best in his new endeavor.

[Rogue]

The good - Taker, Edge promo, Benoit winning.

The bad - Trish dressed like a 2 dollar whore, Rock and Sock losing, having to watch Randy Orton's ugly mug grin and celebrate. Taker's look. (Granted I was so glad to see my man back but :( I was expecting more of old school costumes, not his American Badass costume minus the BIG EVIL down the pants).


I enjoyed WM, except for the few bad things listed above. I'd give it an 8.5/10

[slinger]

Originally posted by Inval1d
From WWE.com:

Brock Lesnar opts to put WWE career on hold

Brock Lesnar has made a personal decision to put his WWE career on hold to prepare to tryout for the National Football League this season. Brock has wrestled his entire professional career in the WWE and we are proud of his accomplishments and wish him the best in his new endeavor.

More earning potential, less work and less travel. He still could show up and do some PPVs during the off season. Also it doesn't seem like it was a Roddy Pipper/Hogan-style departure. So he would be welcomed back by Vince. Austin vs Lesner at WM21?

[sandman441]

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[Rogue]

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

He's my favorite.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Rogue
http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

He's my favorite.

He is your favorite or is the man who had the video about his upcoming return your favorite?

[sphericthor]

Damn I couldn't watch all of WM because I had to get up this morning for work. It ended at 5am and I watched it until around 1.30am but I have a reminder set to Autoview on Thursday night at 9pm to see the whole thing

[Starwars411]

The Brock/Goldberg match was the dumbest match of the night, they only did like 10 moves and that's it.

"YOU SOLD OUT, YOU SOLD OUT!"

[Starwars411]

Originally posted by Knerys
Entrance was cool, but when I saw his costume I was like "he's went cowboy!"

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Warren]

Dead Man my ass.

Added died hair, rolled up eyes, Paul Bearer, hat and coat doesn't make the old gimmick! Come on, at least purple gloves! I am not fond of this "American Phenom".


And congratulations Benoit. He deserved it. I would have never thought there would be a Wrestlemania where both Guerrero and Benoit walk out as champions.

EDIT- Can anybody explain the Edge promo to me?

[LordofKings]

i honestly cant believe that benoit won a wrestlemania main event. I mean, benoit deserved it that is not a question, but usual the biggest names win that main event of WM, and benoit is no where near SHAWN MICHAELS of HHH in terms of popularity or statue in how big they are. Benoit would be so much better if he had a personality. but he did indeed deserve this, but i wish MICHAELS would have won...oh well

also, was the GOLDBREG/BROCK match quick, and did GOLDBERG win fair and easy?

[slinger]

Originally posted by LordofKings
i honestly cant believe that benoit won a wrestlemania main event. I mean, benoit deserved it that is not a question, but usual the biggest names win that main event of WM, and benoit is no where near SHAWN MICHAELS of HHH in terms of popularity or statue in how big they are. Benoit would be so much better if he had a personality. but he did indeed deserve this, but i wish MICHAELS would have won...oh well

also, was the GOLDBREG/BROCK match quick, and did GOLDBERG win fair and easy?

How did HBK become so popular? Defeating Bret Hart at WrestleMania maybe? HHH has won previous title matches at WM. Time for some new blood to win. Are you going to have WrestleMania 23 with HBK winning the world title over The Rock?

The fans at MSG did not want HHH to win, and they didn't want HBK to win either. Benoit had to win.

[SilverBack]

Benoit is great, Good for him.

[Starwars411]

Originally posted by Warren
EDIT- Can anybody explain the Edge promo to me?

The thing about Edge is he is finally coming back after being injured for at least a year. Glad t see him coming back, he's a good wrestler.

[Se7en the movie]

i loved wrestlemania! every match was impressive! EXCEPT the goldberg/lesner match, but i'm not gonna blame the wrestlers cause i believe they had planned a superb battle, who i am gonna blame is the damn fans in the arena. You see with their silly 'u sold out' chants and such, they ruined the match, i am certain the superstars cut it short due to the crowds response and now these people are probably going around complaining how bad the match was......well its ur own fault! Neither Lesner nor Goldberg deserved that ****!

[Warren]

Originally posted by Se7en the movie
i loved wrestlemania! every match was impressive! EXCEPT the goldberg/lesner match, but i'm not gonna blame the wrestlers cause i believe they had planned a superb battle, who i am gonna blame is the damn fans in the arena. You see with their silly 'u sold out' chants and such, they ruined the match, i am certain the superstars cut it short due to the crowds response and now these people are probably going around complaining how bad the match was......well its ur own fault! Neither Lesner nor Goldberg deserved that ****!

The match would have been the same without the crowd like that. Goldberg can't wrestle. And I think that the fans were probably right in saying that Lesnar sold out. He left WWE because he wanted to try our for football, and he said the travel schedule is too hectic. He had it great here, he won the WWE title three times, and he had a short career. His ego has grown too big.

[jbailey84]

plus there wasn't that much of a hype for the Goldberg/Lesnar match.

[HotBoy]

I loved every minute of WrestleMania XX, except the Lesnar/Goldberg Match. Thank god for Stone Cold stunning both of them!!!

I also loved seeing the WWE Hall Of Fame Inductees!!! Particularly, Jesse Ventura, Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, "Superstar" Billy Graham(sp), Don Muraco, and (God rest his soul) The Junk Yard Dog(one of my all-time favorites).

I hope that Koko B. Ware, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan, and King Kong Bundy will be inducted sooner, or later.

As far as Trish's heel turn is concerned, I loved the way it was pulled off, and here's my prediction for this storyline: Chris Jericho will get help from a WWE Diva. And as far as who it is: I'm predicting it'll either be the winner of the WWE Diva Search: Jaime Koeppe, or we'll see the return of Stephanie McMahon.

Another match that I loved: Guerrero vs. Angle!!! I liked the way Eddie outsmarted Kurt Angle. It's good to see both him, and Benoit as champions after always being on the undercard for so many years!!!

[Se7en the movie]

Originally posted by Warren
The match would have been the same without the crowd like that. Goldberg can't wrestle. And I think that the fans were probably right in saying that Lesnar sold out. He left WWE because he wanted to try our for football, and he said the travel schedule is too hectic. He had it great here, he won the WWE title three times, and he had a short career. His ego has grown too big.

goldberg cant wrestle?? austin has got about as many moves as goldberg, but i like them both, why? they have a presence, they have charisma and they are great showmen. Also booing lesner, is this how we say goodbye to one of, if not the greatest new talent to come into WWE in a long time? he has created some of the best matches to come out of the brand split and we boo him and chant 'you sold out' when he decides to leave? he didnt deserve that and neither does anyone else who has been so consistanly good in the WWE.

[slinger]

It was booked that way so they don't look good except Austin, who still works for the WWE. That way people aren't that annoyed that both are no longer working for the company. Who wants to watch wrestlers put on crappy matches. It was terrible how they built it up too. They had all the time in the world to make it work too. Remember when Lesner debuted that 'goldberg' were throughout the arena. Goldberg was absent from WWE, so they had to settle with Lesner, Vince and Austin to make the match. Goldberg should've been sent to Smackdown after No Way Out. But nope. Anyway, the two title matches more than make up for the mess that happened.

The fans paid a fair chunk their own money to go to MSG, they can chant whatever they want. Lesner is leaving since he isn't getting his way. Well so are about 30 other guys on the roster who would kill to be maineventing, let alone appearing on a PPV match that people want to see. Yes he put on classic matches in his short stint and he'll probably be back anyway.

[Inval1d]

I thought about the undertaker angle and came up with this theory:

1.He was buried as the American Badass.

2. At Wrestlemania he came back to life and was still wearing his same clothes he "died" in.

3. over the next couple weeks when his hair grows, he should start to develop back into the Lord of Darkness Undertaker.

I can see that happening. I hope he changes his attire back to the Phenom look.

[ZombieMan]

I will post my review of Wrestlemania later on tonight, I am at a friend's house right now and don't have time. Look for that late tonight.

[slinger]

WWE Rosters (http://www.tsn.ca/wrestling/wwe_rosters.asp)

My lottery picks.

Orton, Flair, HBK, Kane, The Hurricane > Smackdown!

Cena, Edge, Rhyno, Billy Gunn, Shannon Moore > RAW

[ZombieMan]

My Wrestlemania XX review:

Jericho vs. Christian: I wasn't surprised that Trish turned heel, originally I thought Jericho would win this match but I changed my mind yesterday before the ppv. All in all, it was an ok match.

Torrie Wilson and Sable vs. Stacy Keibler and Miss Jackie: This was everything expected really. Not alot of good wrestling but it was still fun!

Cruiserweight open: I think honestly, this was my favorite match of the night. Alot of good, solid wrestling skills tossed into one match. Ultimo Dragon was awsome (even though he tripped coming to the ring, hahaha). I was glad to see Chavo Jr. retain the title and I hope he feuds with either Tajiri or Rey Jr.

WWE Tag Titles: Rikishi and Scotty vs. TWGTT vs. Bashams vs. APA: Personally I wasn't into this match AT ALL, it bored the crap out of me. I wanted to see the APA win it or TWGTT. Pretty dissapointing I thought.

World Tag Titles: Booker T and RVD vs. Jindrak and Cade vs. La Resistance vs. Dudleyz: Not too bad of a match, I was hoping to see Jindrak and Cade pull off the win and feud with Booker and RVD. Its alright though that the titles were retained by Booker T and RVD. Alot of solid moves and awsome wrestling in this fatal 4-way.

Women's Title: Victoria vs. Molly Holly: I thought this match had some pretty good moves. I'm not usually into women's matches but this one was alright. Too bad Molly got shaved and I was shocked that she actually went all the way bald!!! She better have gotten payed good for that!

The Undertaker vs. Kane: I was happy to see Paul Bearer come back with Taker' first off. Other than that, this match wasn't as good as I had anticipated. Good to see Taker' use the old Tombstone Piledriver again but that is a risk with his bad knees. Oh well, good to see the "Deadman" gimmick again but he needs to change it up and go MORE oldschool with his look. (Side Note: Funny stuff when the druid caught fire).

Rock N' Sock vs. Orton, Batista, and Flair: Pretty cool matchup, I was into this one pretty good. Foley took a few really bad ass bumps, I liked that alot! Excellent job by every wrestler in this match, I'm usually not big on Batista but he did an awsome job last night.

US Title: Big Show vs. John Cena: I figured Cena would win the title, and this actually was an exciting match to me. I enjoyed it alot. I don't like John Cena, but I have to admit that picking up the Big Show twice for FU's, was VERY impressive!

Lesnar vs. Goldberg: BOOOOOORIIIIIINNNNGGGG is all I gotta say, and SELLLLL OUT! I'm not happy with Lesnar and I never liked Goldberg in the first place really.

WWE Title: Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle: Awsome match, probably one of the best matches of the night. Awsome moves and Eddie got out of the Ankle Lock about 3 or 4 times and reversed it. VERY COOL, I was impressed on both sides. Especially with Guerrero's performance, and I'm glad to see him keep the title!!!

World Title: Triple H vs. HBK vs. Chris Benoit: Good stuff, with alot of blood. Very touching moment at the end of the match when Benoit won the title. This has been Benoit's dream and it was cool to see Guerrero come out and help The Wolverein celebrate his win!

BTW another side note, the Hall of Fame inductions rocked! GOOOOO HARLEY!

[ZombieMan]

My Lottery Picks

RAW
1. Rey Mysterio Jr.
2. John Cena
3. Edge
4. Bradshaw
5. Faarooq
6. Shannon Moore
7. Sable
8. Shelton Benjamin
9. Charlie Haas
10. Kurt Angle

SMACKDOWN
1. Renee Dupre
2. (The other La Resistance guy, don't care about his name)
3. Triple H
4. RVD
5. Kane
6. Batista
7. The Hurricane
8. Rosey
9. Lita
10. Randy Orton

[Inval1d]

aren't those the RAW and Smackdown stars just switched around? :funny:

[slinger]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
My Lottery Picks

RAW
1. Rey Mysterio Jr.
2. John Cena
3. Edge
4. Bradshaw
5. Faarooq
6. Shannon Moore
7. Sable
8. Shelton Benjamin
9. Charlie Haas
10. Kurt Angle

SMACKDOWN
1. Renee Dupre
2. (The other La Resistance guy, don't care about his name)
3. Triple H
4. RVD
5. Kane
6. Batista
7. The Hurricane
8. Rosey
9. Lita
10. Randy Orton

I don't think they'll switch 20 wrestlers. What does that create? Two new feuds?

Orton, Flair, HBK, Kane, The Hurricane > Smackdown!

Cena, Edge, Rhyno, Billy Gunn, Shannon Moore > RAW

Edge vs HHH, HBK vs Angle, Cena vs Christian, Kane vs Taker, Orton vs Taker, HBK vs Taker, HHH vs Cena, Cena vs Batista, Batista vs Edge,

[ZombieMan]

WOW! Lets be a ******** today, real nice! Can't even express your own opinions here anymore. And if this is called a "ground shattering change" then YES they could possibly trade over 10 wrestlers each. Why would you exchange just 4 when you bring the whole Smackdown roster to Raw?

[slinger]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
WOW! Lets be a ******** today, real nice! Can't even express your own opinions here anymore. And if this is called a "ground shattering change" then YES they could possibly trade over 10 wrestlers each. Why would you exchange just 4 when you bring the whole Smackdown roster to Raw?

You expressed your opinion, Inval1d and I expressed ours. I disagreed. I didn't result to name calling like you. IMO the WWE would be smart to keep the style of the shows only switching those that have run their course.

Vince did an interview with the Hollywood Reporter and stated that only 30% of WWE fans watch both shows. People watch what they like. Smackdown is the wrestling show, RAW is the sports entertainment show. If you take the elements that make each show unique (crusierweights, big guys, women etc.) and mix it, split it even more I don't see the shows retaining an audience but losing it.

All that needs to be done is for a couple or one wrestlers from each level to swtich places. (maineventers, midcard, lower card, only on HEAT/Velocity performers.) 5 or 6 I could see going.

The more you take, the less you can do. Kurt Angle had already worked great programs with Benoit, Mysterio, Edge and Cena. Maybe you're right, maybe they'll strip the shows and build from scratch. The writers just did this as a lazy way to fix Brock and Goldberg's departure and Edge's return (which HHH help get to RAW).

I would hate to see how you react when someone actually insults you or dispises what you believe in.

[Kyle Katarn]

Hey...I didn't know Goldberg was in Looney Tunes - Back in Action! :D Was that his '30 day suspension?'

He was an ACME thug! :funny:

[Inval1d]

I don't think so...wasn't his 30 day suspension just recently? LT:BIA came out a few monthes back.

[slinger]

He was filming a movie in Edmonton.

[IamMrDJ]

Goldberg was filming a movie called Santa's Slay where he is playing Santa Claus. That is why during his more recent appearances in public adn on TV he has been wearing the Hat for the movie.

[slinger]

The latest on Kurt Angle is that he may require neck surgery yet again. The numbness he has been experiencing has much to do with his neck and spinal cord damage. Another surgery may mean an end to Angle’s in-ring career. He has been scheduled to undergo more tests throughout the week. Nothing has been confirmed yet, but he is expected to be out for a while.

Word has it that Angle hasn’t been his usual enthusiastic, up-beat self backstage recently. Knowing Angle he may have been feeling uncomfortable for a while. Since he isn’t one to moan, whine and groan, he may have held back feelings of abnormal sensations or numbness for a couple days

-----

Well that isn't good for the WWE. Losing the two biggest heels from Smackdown! in one week. Lottery will try to fix this. HBK heel turn anyone? Right now it's okay since they don't have a PPV until May. However, if Angle is gone for good thats a shame. Truly one of the best. He would probably take some time off but I don't see why he wouldn't be used as a on air role. Great heel manager could help a rising star.

[Kyle Katarn]

HBK may turn...he's said before he dosen't wanna let his son see him as a heel. But recently (Raw mag interview) he said his son dosen't know exactly what he does for a living...

[slinger]

Nidia was at one time engaged to Eric Angle, Kurt’s younger brother. We can confirm now that this has been broken off.

* You may have noticed that WWE veterans Test, Matt Hardy, and Lita weren’t included in the WrestleMania line-up. A source within the company stated that the main reason Test is even still with the company is because he is dating Stacy Keibler and they wouldn’t want to do anything to risk losing her. With regard to Matt Hardy and Lita, it appears as if nobody in a power position is looking out for them and their careers. Lita has also drawn some heat backstage since returning from neck surgery as many feel she has developed a “holier than thou” attitude.

Legitimizes the Victoria vs Molly match, since most PPV Women's matches are what? Triple Threats, or Fatal Four Ways. Matt Hardy and Test could've easily been added to the RAW Tag Match instead of Jindrak and Cade. It would've been 2 heel teams, 2 face. Remember the Hardy dumps Lita angle?

According to the St. Petersburg Times in Flordia, WrestleMania jumped from the Hall of Fame induction to a Naked News broadcast. People are reported irate about this, out of 1,500 people about 300 people called up the cable company to complain. The company, Bright House Networks, is giving out a $25 rebate to all customers who request them.

The same thing happened in Cincinnati, OH. The signal went from ‘Mania to XXX porn.

This happened at a movie theatre here that shows WWE PPVs. Right after the event ened it cut right to porn on the big screenPeople weren't happy. And some were.

[KINGKURT553]

Yeah, well, I got back from Boston yesterday. What a trip. I went to Boston and stayed at my cousins place, then went to New York and stayed at a hotel, then came back to Boston yesterday so I could fly back to LA. I was in 3 different states yesterday. Had breakfast in New York, lunch in Boston, and dinner in Glendale.

I'm not going to go into detail, but I did score WMXX tickets literally the last hours before the show starting. Sat in section 15, row A, seats 7 and 8. I took a lot of tickets and videos, but I'm too lazy to upload them and post them. A took a sign that said AREN with an arrow pointing down and on the backside I wrote ANGLE with a crappy design of the American flag in his name.

All I can say is, New York was awesome. I went to all the main sites, but I'm not going to go into detail to what happened. There was however a fire in Times Square when we were walking. Firefighters came quickly took over the fire and had it under control. It was in a trash can or a garbage bin of some kind. Everyone cheered and clapped as a lot of people were recording it, as was I. However, I did it with my cousin's newly purchased digital camera, and he can't get the videos to upload to his crappy PC so he can send them to me. If he does get it to work, I'll post them.

If you want to read what happened at WMXX and how I brought both chairs from New York, to Boston, to California, check out this (http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26130) topic.

What a crazy week, and now I'm back to my normal, crappy life. Once you visit other states, you realize how crappy where you live actually is.

[Rogue]

Merging with the existing WWE thread in sports.

[jbailey84]

on lesnar from rajah.com

"* In an article that can be read in its entirety here, Brock Lesnar’s former High School wrestling coach, John Schiley, stated that it was the recent tour of South Africa that pushed Lesnar to walk away from his WWE deal. Schiley stated, “He was tired of the grueling thing, he never had a day off, didn’t have a weekend, every Sunday he worked, his weekends were Wednesday and Thursday and last night he was probably the most calmest, well rested I’ve ever heard him,” said Schiley.

Schiley stated that Lesnar’s current plan is to head to Arizona to work with a personal trainer, then eventually attempt to tryout for the Minnesota Vikings."

[Inval1d]

From Wrestling-Edge:

In an somewhat weird, but shocking turn of events, Ron 'Farooq' Simmons was fired today from WWE.

Why is this weird? Well, WWE did an angle at the tapings on Tuesday where Simmons was 'fired'. Now on the DAY of SmackDown! where the 'angle' airs live, he is fired for real.

[Kyle Katarn]

WTF? Simmons is fired in an angle AND for real?

After seeing the new Deadman, I got just one thing to say:

AW HELL YES! :cool: :D

FYI, he was wearing the plain leather pants. black tanktop, cowboy hat and bandanna...but still, he was 100% Phenom!

Heyman: And there isn't a man alive who can stop me...
*BONG......BONG..............BONG* :eek:

[Rogue]

I loved every second of it, Kyle. You should have heard me screaming like a little girl. I wonder what's up with the bandana though? It's kind of like Dead American Badass? :confused: I dunno but I like it.

And Dj will like this - my Mom is a big John Cena fan. He cracks her up.

And that Edge promo? Dear lord, it stuns me into silence and I have to wipe the drool away. Well, not really, but, great day in the mornin' that boy is hot. Can't wait to see him back.


Anyone know what's up with the "lottery"? Is it just to do neccessary switches or are they completely going to revamp everything?

[ZombieMan]

Personally I think that it sounds like they are going to revamp almost everything because why would they say "This is groundbreaking" and "This could be the last time that you see these guys on Raw", I think there will be lots of switches really. I don't see how it would be "groundbreaking" if there was only like 4 superstars traded. As for Smackdown last night, I loved it when the Deadman came out and tombstoned Heyman! That was just awsome! Also about Ron Simmons, I was dissapointed to hear that he actually got fired, I mean I thought it was just an angle but who knows? I thought he would go to Raw or Bradshaw would and then one would stay on Smackdown. Ehhh, anything can happen in the WWE.

[slinger]

They could just be hyping up the event so both groups of viewers tune in. Vince also said new rivalries would happen, so if you bring half the wrestlers over are you really creating new rivialries? It is a lottery and wrestlers have a 50/50 chance of staying on the show. So with the odds being like that its a good chance that only 10 could switch shows. Edge seems destined for RAW, but in April. I think Batista, Flair and HBK are going to Smackdown! They were in the main event of RAW so perhaps a farewell in a way? Plus Lesner and Angle are gone so the show needs some heels. Bradshaw probably ends up on RAW and goes against Orton after Foley?... They could write in that Heyman or Bischoff somehow rigged the lottery. Orton challenged Foley for a one on one and that would help sell the Backlash PPV better than the two months away Smackdown! so he'll probably won't go.

Triple H vs Benoit (Benoit wins, remember HHH promo on winning just one time)
Y2J vs CLB (gimmick match)
Orton vs Foley
Women's Match
Tag Titles
2-3 more matches, which depends on the lottery. Perhaps a No.1 Contender match.

[ZombieMan]

Orton vs. Bradshaw sounds like a good deal to me!

[Warren]

Orton vs Bradshaw would be a horrible match.

[Colorado Cajun]

Orton vs Edge anyone?

That's what I'd like to see

[slinger]

*= wins

Backlash
*Benoit vs HHH WC Title
*Orton vs Foley
*Christian vs Jericho

Bad Blood
*Benoit vs Christian WC Title
Orton vs *Edge IC Title
*Booker T (heel) vs Jericho No.1 Contenders

SummerSlam
Edge vs *HHH
Benoit vs *Booker T WC Title
*Orton vs Jericho

Unforgiven
*Booker T vs Benoit WC Title
Orton vs *Jericho No.1 Contenders Match
Edge vs HHH vs *Christian IC Title

October PPV
*Booker T vs Jericho WC Title
*Orton/HHH vs Benoit/Matt Hardy vs Edge/RVD vs La Resistance RAW Tag Elimination Match - RVD turns heel > Heyman now manager.
*Christian vs Maven IC Title

Survivor Series
*Booker T, HHH, Orton, Christian, RVD
vs Edge, Jericho, Matt Hardy (face), Benoit, Maven

Armageddon
*Booker T vs Edge WC Title
Christian vs *Matt Hardy IC Title
Orton/HHH vs *Dudleys vs Jericho/Benoit RAW Tag

Royal Rumble
*Edge vs Booker T WC Title
#7 entry RVD wins Rumble
#10 Orton eliminates #28 HHH, # 2 Y2J eliminates #5 HBK,
Booker T suprise entry #29, Benoit elimates Booker T

WrestleMania 21
*Edge vs RVD WC Title Ladder Match
Matt Hardy (w/Victoria) vs *Christian (w/Trish) IC Title
HHH vs *Orton Legend Killer Match
*Jericho vs HBK (heel) Last Man Standing Match
*Benoit vs Booker T (best of three - singles, submission*, cage*)

[jbailey84]

would jericho job christian twice? in 2 ppv's in a row?

wouldnt mind seeing RVD and/or Booker T turn heel

[slinger]

Who knows. For that I would do the face would've won but the ref was down and Trish helps Christian win. Helps Christian with his title match against Benoit.

[ZombieMan]

I want to see a heel turn by RVD and have him and Booker T feud for awhile. Now that would be good!

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by slinger
*= wins

Backlash
*Benoit vs HHH WC Title
*Orton vs Foley
*Christian vs Jericho

Bad Blood
*Benoit vs Christian WC Title
Orton vs *Edge IC Title
*Booker T (heel) vs Jericho No.1 Contenders

SummerSlam
Edge vs *HHH
Benoit vs *Booker T WC Title
*Orton vs Jericho

Unforgiven
*Booker T vs Benoit WC Title
Orton vs *Jericho No.1 Contenders Match
Edge vs HHH vs *Christian IC Title

October PPV
*Booker T vs Jericho WC Title
*Orton/HHH vs Benoit/Matt Hardy vs Edge/RVD vs La Resistance RAW Tag Elimination Match - RVD turns heel > Heyman now manager.
*Christian vs Maven IC Title

Survivor Series
*Booker T, HHH, Orton, Christian, RVD
vs Edge, Jericho, Matt Hardy (face), Benoit, Maven

Armageddon
*Booker T vs Edge WC Title
Christian vs *Matt Hardy IC Title
Orton/HHH vs *Dudleys vs Jericho/Benoit RAW Tag

Royal Rumble
*Edge vs Booker T WC Title
#7 entry RVD wins Rumble
#10 Orton eliminates #28 HHH, # 2 Y2J eliminates #5 HBK,
Booker T suprise entry #29, Benoit elimates Booker T

WrestleMania 21
*Edge vs RVD WC Title Ladder Match
Matt Hardy (w/Victoria) vs *Christian (w/Trish) IC Title
HHH vs *Orton Legend Killer Match
*Jericho vs HBK (heel) Last Man Standing Match
*Benoit vs Booker T (best of three - singles, submission*, cage*)

that's not bad at all

Instead of Maven though could we make it Test?

[Warren]

Doesn't seem very realistic, though.

[Inval1d]

Wrestling-Edge:

As reported earlier, WWE will run 14 PPVs this year with two in June and two in October. The two June PPVs will be on June 13th in Louisville [RAW PPV] and June 27th in Norfolk [SD! PPV]. They will then have their July PPV on the 11th in Hartford [RAW PPV].

In October, they will have a PPV on the 10th [SD! PPV] and one on the 19th [RAW PPV]. The show on the 19th will be an experimental Tuesday PPV. Smackdown will either be taped on Wednesday or air live that week.

The plan is also to have all WWE PPVs become PPVs in the U.K. as well once WWE's current deal with BSKYB expires later this year. In the past, some of WWE's PPVs aired on free TV in the U.K.




Holy Crap! 2 PPVs in one month. That is too much for me! I'm just going to hold off on those PPV's

[IamMrDJ]

They plan on adding two more PPV's next year as well.

[Inval1d]

look at HHH in Blade 3

http://superherohype.com/gallery/Blade/Blade_Trinity/Movie_Stills/tripleh.jpg

~SHH!

[jbailey84]

cool pic, but whats up with shirt?:p

[jbailey84]

Update on Angle from rajah.com

"Kurt Angle neck was re-examined earlier this week and doctors say that his injury is not career threatening and he will not need neck surgery. This is good news for the WWE since they have lost two main eventers, Brock Lesnar and Bill Goldberg last week."

Great to see that Kurt doesn't have to have neck surgery again!

[slinger]

Didn't look good. Hopefully he shows up tonight on RAW.

[Kyle Katarn]

LOL....Eric's smirk to Heyman!

TAKER better be there! :D

[Kyle Katarn]

EDGE! He's back! And Heyman quits rather than be drafted by Eric!

[Colorado Cajun]

Dude I about lept off the couch when Edge showed up

About fn time!!!!!!

[IamMrDJ]

Qucik someone try and find Rogue and see if she is ok after seeing Edge back. :D

[Inval1d]

Heyman was picked up by Eric and then he quit.

ECW is bound to come now!!! :D

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah that and Steph will be returning to SD! as early as this weeks SD! episode

[Inval1d]

I was thinking that would happen. I'm so excited now :D

[slinger]

Originally posted by Inval1d
Heyman was picked up by Eric and then he quit.

ECW is bound to come now!!! :D

That very well could happen.

I guess we can expect RVD vs Angle. HHH vs Cena. Benoit vs HBK. Kane vs Edge?

Well no real earth shattering deals, the biggest shock being Heyman being picked but then quitting. 3 tag teams were split up, however how about Haas & Jindrak as the New WGTT?
Spike might challenge for the Crusierweight title. Nidia will be a future Women's Champ. Who will Long manage to medicore results? Shane O Mac as the new Smackdown GM? What would be the point of getting Steph back after Vince had this vendetta to get her to quit? RVD finally leaves RAW but he's still stuck with HHH. Remember the Triple Threat Match with RVD, Angle and Austin? He was so over. Maybe Heyman could be RVD's manager. Look at his resume: WWE Champ Lesner, WWE Champ Angle, WWE Tag Team Champs TWGTT, & WWE Champ Big Show. Perfect time for a heel turn.

[slinger]

STATEMENT FROM MR. MCMAHON

Earlier tonight, Paul Heyman - the former General Manager of SmackDown! - was drafted by RAW and subsequently quit. Therefore, due to the absence of a GM on SmackDown!, I have extended the trading deadline to 9 p.m. ET Tuesday, at which time a new GM of SmackDown! will be announced, and that new GM of SmackDown! will in fact announce all trades. Thank you.

[Rogue]

One word - four letters...do I have to say it?

EDGE!!!


:grin: :D

[ZombieMan]

HAHAHA Rogue, and I was glad to see Edge back too, he is going to make a HUGE impact on Raw! I would love to see Stephanie come back as the Smackdown GM but I don't think that will happen. It would be crazy if Theordore Long became the new SD GM. Anyhow, to whoever said that ECW could be on the horizon, I totally agree with you. This is the perfect oppurtunity for that to happen and there have been talks lately from what I understand, so most likely it could happen! I wasn't pleased to see Rhyno come onto Raw and get a World Heavyweight Title shot, that sucked, of course someone had to job to Benoit! I was hoping to see The Undertaker come to Raw too, :( But Shelton Benjamin will be a helluva addition to the Raw roster, I was happy and about came off my couch when he got drafted over. That dude can flat up wrestle, of course he came from the NCAA too!

[HotBoy]

My RAW Theories:

Nidia will have a feud with Trish Stratus (to start out her new carreer on RAW.

Shelton Benjamin: I can definately see him going after the IC Title.
Benjamin Vs. Orton could be a great match.

Rhyno Vs. Kane (nuff said).

Now, on Smackdown, HHH Vs. John Cena :D :D!!!

RVD goes back to the XTREEME!!!

Theodore Long: quite possibly could end up managing Orlando Jordan. Depends on who else gets drafted.

Personally, I'd like to see Rey Mysterio, Shaniqua, and Rikishi come over to RAW, but that's just how I feel about it.

[Inval1d]

Spoilers* New SmackDown! Commissioner Revealed

The following is from WWE.COM:

G.M. KURT ANGLE

Former WWE Champion Kurt Angle has been chosen as the new SmackDown! General Manager, filling the void left by Paul Heyman. Angle was quick to make the roster his own, as he completed two deals with RAW's Eric Bischoff.

This is a tremendous development - it was expected Stephanie McMahon was going to be named the new GM but it will in fact be the Olympic Hero Kurt Angle! There are several major trades expected to be announced later tonight.



That's a shock, but really cool. Nice to see angle used even though he won't be able to compete

[Inval1d]

From Wreslting Edge:



* Kurt Angle has replaced Paul Heyman as SmackDown! General Manager.

* Kurt Angle’s first order of business was to mold the SmackDown! roster to his liking. Angle has completed two trades with RAW General Manager Eric Bischoff.

* The first trade sends F.B.I. member Chuck Palumbo and A-Train to RAW for the combination of the sexy Miss Jackie and Rico.

* The second trade is a blockbuster three-for-one deal. RAW’s Eric Bischoff has agreed to send the Dudley Boyz and Booker T to SmackDown! in exchange for former World Heavyweight Champion Triple H. This announcement comes straight off the heels of Triple H being chosen by SmackDown! in the draft lottery just 24 hours prior.

* There will be more trades announced tonight


HHH is back on Raw now. that's a bummer. I hope the title doesn't go back to him.

[IamMrDJ]

The title will be going back to him. It has been stated that BEnoit is not a long term Champion, Eddie however is going to be a long term champ

[Inval1d]

that's good to hear about Eddie. Man, I'm tired of HHH winning the title all the time. They should push yougner stars to go forthe title like Edge, Rhyno, Randy Orton, and those other's

[IamMrDJ]

The reason Edge is on Raw is to feud with HHH adn go after the title.

[ZombieMan]

I would like to see Edge go at it with Benoit for the title, but of course I don't know who would play the babyface and who would be the heel. Anyway, I don't like the idea of Triple H coming back to Raw because I looked forward to seeing him do some crap on Smackdown and see how that works out. I guess RVD and Booker T could get back together as a team now since they are both on Smackdown now. Personally I liked Booker T better on Raw. Chuck Palumbo and A-Train to Raw? Great, I'm not much into either of them, they better do something special. LMAO!!!

[sphericthor]

Has anyone got a full list of the draft? I don't wanna wait until Friday night to find out

[Warren]

Raw got:
Shelton Benjamin
Nidia
Rhyno
Edge
Tajiri
Heyman

Smackdown got:
Rene Dupree
Mark Jindrak
Triple H
Rob Van Dam
Theodore Long
Spike Dudley

[jbailey84]

well so far the UPDATED list is as follows

Raw:
Shelton Benjamin
Nidia
Edge
Rhyno
Tajiri
Paul Heyman (quit)
Chuck Palumbo
A-Train
HHH (traded back to Raw from Smackdown)

Smackdown:
Rob Van Dam
Booker T
Bubba Ray
D-Von
Rene Dupree
Mark Jindrak
Theodore Long
Spike
Miss Jackie
Rico

[Colorado Cajun]

Here's what I would like to see

HBK go back to being the heel and then beat Benoit for the title

Edge vs HHH for a bit with Edge winning and then moving on to go at HBK for the title

Randy Orton vs face Matt Hardy

Christian vs Jericho in a brutal feud ending in a TLC match which Christian wins

Rhino vs Kane until they figure out what to do with Taker

[stonefaced_1]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
Here's what I would like to see

HBK go back to being the heel and then beat Benoit for the title

Edge vs HHH for a bit with Edge winning and then moving on to go at HBK for the title

Randy Orton vs face Matt Hardy

Christian vs Jericho in a brutal feud ending in a TLC match which Christian wins

Rhino vs Kane until they figure out what to do with Taker

The rest of it is fine. But I am against anything where trips gets the belt back.

[Warren]

HBK getting the title? Bad decision, Benoit should hold it for a while.

[ZombieMan]

HBK turning heel sounds AWSOME and feuding with Benoit! Edge vs. Trips sounds good too, very good idea! But I wouldn't like Orton vs. Matt Hardy, uckkk.

[IamMrDJ]

So, what happens if you can't get enough WWE Entertainment? Well how about an all new 24/7 Wrestling Network.


WWE Announces the New “WWE 24/7” Television Network
Filed under: News- Henry Walk @ 3/24/2004
World Wrestling Entertainment has unveiled a major initiative that will utilize their exclusive and enormous programming library to build a host of new mutually beneficial businesses with cable, satellite and other worldwide television partners.

“WWE is ready to move even more aggressively into the digital age by providing new services that will fit with the active lifestyles of our fans and meet their demand for new and innovative content,” said Vince McMahon at a business luncheon today hosted by he and his wife Linda McMahon. “Our fans want more WWE and classic sports entertainment programming, and we have demonstrated our track record of providing content of the highest quality and value. I’m confident we can move into this new distribution platform for television as successfully as we have for syndication, cable, broadcast and Pay-Per-View.”

From what we’re told the WWE video on demand service will feature classic programming from WWE(F), WCW, ECW, the American Wrestling Association, Jim Crockett Promotions and Smokey Mountain Wrestling. WWE owns the largest professional wrestling library in the world, with more than 75,000 hours of exclusive footage. About a third of this footage consists of finished, produced programs that have only aired once and some footage that has never been aired before.

For more information you can visit www.WWE24-7.com.

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by Warren
HBK getting the title? Bad decision, Benoit should hold it for a while. Honestly I think Benoit is far better as a chaser than Champion. Plus there is no top level Heel now other than HHH and I guess Orton. I am sick of HHH in title matches. It's time for fresh blood to be pushed and my booking does that many ways

[Inval1d]

ooo...WWE 24/7 I like that. I would so get that

[Warren]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
Honestly I think Benoit is far better as a chaser than Champion. Plus there is no top level Heel now other than HHH and I guess Orton. I am sick of HHH in title matches. It's time for fresh blood to be pushed and my booking does that many ways

HBK isn't fresh blood. He's been the champion before. His best days are behind him.

[slinger]

HBK's best days are behind him. But he's still better than half the roster is today. Heel HBK is the only answer. With Triple H back you know they'll have another HBK match down the road and he'll win back the title but he's pretty much dried up the well. Jericho is a face so they could do that but he's beaten him every time. Only tag matches Jericho seems to win. (being his partner or against him) Doesn't he have a movie too that will cause him to leave?

HHH's RAW options: Edge, Benoit, Jericho, HBK? Orton eventually
HHH's SD! options: Cena, Eddie, Taker, Mysterio, RVD?

Atleast on Smackdown he would have more 'fresh' feuds instead of having HBK vs HHH in a Underwater Cage Match!

With him back and Edge still not 100% they'll probably have the Triple Threat Ladder Match that was pencilled in for WrestleMania. They only dropped the ladder part since they wanted a pinfall with benoit winning and a triple threat seemed enough and they could always use it down the road. Which it looks like their leaning too. Hunter will weasel his way into the Benoit/HBK match that is already set. Bishcoff wouldn't want a WM repeat so time to up the ante.

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
So, what happens if you can't get enough WWE Entertainment? Well how about an all new 24/7 Wrestling Network.

They have 75,000 hours of wrestling.
That's 3125 days or just over 8 years of programming they could air! That's not even considering re-airing shows twice a day.

[ZombieMan]

WWE 24/7 is something that I definitly look forward to getting! This will be totally awsome, I can't wait!!!!!

[Rogue]

I am so ****ing sick of HHH! Jesus, just because he's the big bosses son in law doesn't mean he deserves the damn title. I honestly flip the channel when he's wrestle. He also just comes off as an *******, regardless of whether that's his angle or not. I'd rather see someone like HBK or Edge who is charismatic and good at what he does.

[ZombieMan]

Rogue I agree about him getting the title and title shots all the time just because he is the boss' son-in-law, it is bull****. Honestly though Triple H isn't a bad guy in person, when I went for a dark match once to WWE, he was a really nice guy and was friendly to everyone. He is just good at portraying a bad guy on television is all. LOL

[ZombieMan]

The following matches are confirmed for tonight’s WWE SmackDown!:

RVD vs. Charlie Haas

Renee Dupree vs. Billy Kidman

Dudley Boyz vs. Bashams

Chavo Guerrero vs. Spike Dudley

Eddie Guerrero vs. Booker T

WOW I'm impressed with the lineup, sounds like alot of good wrestling! I am pumped to watch Smackdown tonight for sure!

[slinger]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
Rogue I agree about him getting the title and title shots all the time just because he is the boss' son-in-law, it is bull****. Honestly though Triple H isn't a bad guy in person, when I went for a dark match once to WWE, he was a really nice guy and was friendly to everyone. He is just good at portraying a bad guy on television is all. LOL

He's known for being a douce who only looks out for only him and his close circle of friends backstage. But outside the WWE he's probably a great guy.

RVD's is supposed to be the best match of the night. The crowd for SD! was terrible according to one who attended. It was half full and they didn't know what was up nor did they actually give anyone some real heat, unlike Detroit on Monday.

[jbailey84]

found this interesting at keyj.com its a radiostation website that i listend too in Abilene TX, anyways it has a thing to find out what your WWE Ring Name would be.

http://www2.fanscape.com/WWE/namegen.html

mine was Big Bird of Alcatraz