Go WWE!

[Rogue]

Oh my god, DJ, I LOVE YOU! :applaud: Edge coming back, Lita's back...Taker will be before long. Now all we need is Jeff Hardy and I'll be soooooooo happy. Oh, and the Rock too! :D

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Rogue
Oh my god, DJ, I LOVE YOU! :applaud: Edge coming back, Lita's back...Taker will be before long. Now all we need is Jeff Hardy and I'll be soooooooo happy. Oh, and the Rock too! :D

This post is just for you Rogue. I saw it on RajahWWF.com the other night but forgot to post it.


Submitted by Jeremy Bratcher on December 30, 2003 at 9:11 PM

As of this report, the current plan for the WrestleMania XX main event will consist of a match pitting The Rock and Mick Foley against 2 members of the Evolution. HHH won't be involved in this match as he will most likely work a singles match involving the World Heavyweight Title. His opponent is still unclear and there are many names being tossed around, but Mick Foley definitely isn't one of those.


WrestleMania is gonna be one hell of a PPV.

[Rogue]

The Rock and Sock Connection!! :grin:

[slinger]

Benoit will be the first wrestler to enter the ring for the Royal Rumble. Either the WWE is given him a big push for the belt or this is just a tease and he'll be eliminated at 29 and then him and the wrestler who eliminated him will have a feud.

[game354]

Yeah hi uh don't you guys think that someone from Smackdown! will win the Royal Rumble. The WWE title is in the Smackdown! show. That's why Brock won last year.

[game354]

Plus the WWE title match has to be the main event at Wrestlemania or it isn't Wrestlemania

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by game354
Yeah hi uh don't you guys think that someone from Smackdown! will win the Royal Rumble. The WWE title is in the Smackdown! show. That's why Brock won last year.

The WWE Title is on Smackdown but the World title is on Raw, so what does that matter. The titles won't switch shows ever so what you are saying is that every year a Smackdown wrestler should win the Rumble???

It doesn't have to be that way at all. This is WrestleMania XX, I would not be surprised to see the Royal Rumble Winner not in the Main Event. Vince is going to pull out all the stops on this show to make it the best possible.

We could see the Kane vs. Undertake match as the main event or the Foley and Rock tag match if it happens in the main event or even the rumored last match for Goldberg against the Rock which I just read about the other night on Rajah. There are quite a few wrestlers who could win the Rumble but they are not all from the Smackdown brand.

[slinger]

A RAW wrestler may win the Royal Rumble, but the WWE Title will be the last match on the card even if there are 'bigger' matches. Last year it was all apart of Team Angle/Heyman not letting Brock get a chance at the title.

[jpdill]

WWE has sorta died down in the UK ALOT

[Kyle Katarn]

Raw is in Memphis tonight, so odds are "The King" will step into the ring at some point!

[jpdill]

What time is it on Sky Sports?

[Kyle Katarn]

*sips tea* What do I look like, a Brit? ;)

Sorry, no idea.

[jpdill]

It's ok.

[spiderman_2k]

Raw is on at 10pm Friday Night Sky Sports 2
Repeated at 1am Same Night Sky Sports 3

Smackdown is on at 10pm Saturday Night Sky Sports 2
Not sure if it is repeated.

And I still watch and enjoy the WWE.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Raw is in Memphis tonight, so odds are "The King" will step into the ring at some point!

Well didn't take long for King to get in the Ring. I hope that he will make it back to the announcine table before the end of the show tonight.

[Kyle Katarn]

I was just getting ready to say that....I hope he takes out his anger on Coach at some point too....Coach is a pain in the ass at the announce table!

[Kyle Katarn]

LMAO!

*Mae flashes Jericho*
Jericho: YAAAH!!!

*Kane's pyro explodes, Coach falls out of chair*
King: YAAAAAH!!!

[IamMrDJ]

I just had a feeling it was Mae in the shower I don'tknow why but I just had a feeling.

That was hilarious seeing COach fall out of his chair.

JR: (To Coach) Do I need to get you a Midol? :D

[Inval1d]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
LMAO!

*Mae flashes Jericho*
Jericho: YAAAH!!!

*Kane's pyro explodes, Coach falls out of chair*
King: YAAAAAH!!!


:lol:

[IamMrDJ]

The Last Man Standing Title Match should be awesome between Trips and Shawn. If it is anything like the match the two of them put on last Monday Night we are all gonna be in for one hell of a Royal Rumble.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Originally posted by jpdill
WWE has sorta died down in the UK ALOT

I'll second that, me and my mate always watched it.. we aint watched it for about 3 or 4 months... its just boring as hell now.. plus the fact we no longer is a ***** too, but thats only been since Armageddon.. although, rumour has it Setanta Sport are getting the Royal Rumble.. I aint still watching it though!

[slinger]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
I'll second that, me and my mate always watched it.. we aint watched it for about 3 or 4 months... its just boring as hell now.. plus the fact we no longer is a ***** too, but thats only been since Armageddon.. although, rumour has it Setanta Sport are getting the Royal Rumble.. I aint still watching it though!

Even though my viewing of PPVs, and RAW (don't watch Smackdown) have gone down I'll still watch the Royal Rumble. Well just HHH vs HBK and the Rumble itself. Interesting to see what happens. Do they give the title to HBK and he has some big match at Wrestlemania?

[IamMrDJ]

Well I was surfing around BestBuy.com today when I was ordering my Ultimate Ric Flair Collection DVD and saw the listing for a new DVD I have not heard anything about yet.

The title is

Undertaker - He Buries Them Alive

It has a listed release date of January 27th of this month. This only further leads me to think that he wil be returning as the Old School Undertaker very very soon. When I find out the Specs or features on the DVD I will post them.

[jbailey84]

wonder what all will be on it?

[slinger]

Jericho is once again the guest host of OTR tomorrow. I've got work so I'll watch the replay on Monday. I would tape it but somebody at home would screw it up.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by jbailey84
wonder what all will be on it?

If it is anything like the other like wrestling DVD's they have put out regarding Ric Flair or Foley then this DVD is gonna be ful of matches as well as interviews. I am willing to bet it will be a 2-Disc set.

[HotBoy]

Now, I know that this match may not happen, unless the WWE makes some drastic changes, but this is a match that I would love to see:

Triple H vs. John Cena!!!

[IamMrDJ]

Well I have read some rumors that the winner of the Rumble will be from Smackdown and will challenge the Raw Champion and not the Smackdown Champion. My top 2 picks to win the Rumble right now are Benoit and Cena

[Kyle Katarn]

Hee hee...my cousin got me WWE Originals for my birthday! :D

Not suprisingly, the best songs are from Lillian Garcia and Chris 'Mongoose McQueen' Jericho. And you may be releived to know that Stone Cold dosen't sing 5 songs, or one song. Instead, they're parts of an exchange between Austin and the guy that's written most of the WWE themes since the Hulkamania era! :D

Austin: Relax, and drink your damn beer!
Jim: I don't want...
Austin: WHAT?
Jim: Look, Steve, take your beer and shove
*WHAM*
Austin: Well, you're relaxed now aintcha?

All in all, not bad! Though you can figure out which Superstars won't be giving up their day - er, night jobs for singing! :p

[IamMrDJ]

I bought the CD yesterday it isn't that bad. I havn't watched the DVD that came with it yet though.

[Kyle Katarn]

And of course - THUGANOMICS is on it! :D And is the Eddie/Chavo song their new theme?

I think my favorite new song on there is Lillian's - she kicks @$$.

Lita's song lyrics are...arousing! :eek: Like "when I get you alone, you better hope I don't lose control - you might be seeing double!!!" :grin:

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Well I have read some rumors that the winner of the Rumble will be from Smackdown and will challenge the Raw Champion and not the Smackdown Champion. My top 2 picks to win the Rumble right now are Benoit and Cena

Which could open up a Goldberg vs Lesner match. I've read that Goldberg could be outta there after WrestleMania so now would be the time to cash in on the match. Still hoping for a Heel HBK vs Face Y2J.

[Kyle Katarn]

Hmmm......face Y2J = yay! But Heel HBK = nay. Apart from prefernces, I kinda doubt he'd do it because of his son.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger
Which could open up a Goldberg vs Lesner match. I've read that Goldberg could be outta there after WrestleMania so now would be the time to cash in on the match. Still hoping for a Heel HBK vs Face Y2J.

Well a Goldberg vs. LEsner match couldn't be any worse then Holly vs. Lesner (What the hell are they thinking with this match)

I think WWE is realizing that Goldberg has not been up to what they thought he would be wen they signed him last year. I think that if they do give us a GOldberg vs. Lesner match it would be a total squash match with Lesner destroying GOldberg in his final appearence.

A Heel HBK would be cool to see again taking on Y2J. This is going out on a limb but picture this Royal Rumble HBK turns heel and beats Triple H with the Help of Evolution having Trips become Face. Trips then wins the title back on Raw in February since Smackdown gets the next solo PPV. It is a long shot I kow but Triple H going Face has been talked about for awhile now.

[slinger]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Hmmm......face Y2J = yay! But Heel HBK = nay. Apart from prefernces, I kinda doubt he'd do it because of his son.

Yeah if HBK is the champ, Evolution could dump HHH and then go with his hero, Ric Flair. It would be good for a WrestleMania rematch and see how things would go. But then there is the Foley Factor. If HHH turns face he could wrestle Orton. Royal Rumble should clear things up. Hopefully they don't have a four week bulidup like last year with Booker T and Trips.

Watched some of TURFC on Fanatic Series very early this morning. Flair is the man.

[Se7en the movie]

my ideal wrestlemania 20 match would have to be bret hart v HBK in the ultimate rematch from survivor series when bret was screwed.............but i dont see it happening.......

[Kyle Katarn]

It'd be awesome, but I think Bret's made it clear a comeback isn't gonna happen... :(

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Se7en the movie
my ideal wrestlemania 20 match would have to be bret hart v HBK in the ultimate rematch from survivor series when bret was screwed.............but i dont see it happening.......

YEah that would be nice but with Bret not being able to wrestle anymore after his stroke, it won't happen. HE did say in an interview a few months back if he was to wrestle a WWE Superstar he would want to wrestle Kurt Angle one on one.

[Se7en the movie]

in that case i wanna see them get as much out goldberg before he leave after wrestlmania (if he is indeed leaving) and face brock lesner, a match i would love to see......and then theres of course undertaker (dead man version) v kane!!!!!!

does anyone else think RAW has ****ed over matt hardy?

[IamMrDJ]

I agree with you that they do need to get as much out of Goldberg that they can before he is gone. I would much rather have Goldberg face Brock at Wreslemania instead of a re-match against Rock.

As For Matt, Well it was his choice to switch shows so that he could travel with Lita. The writers have said that the reason he is not being used is taht they don't have a spot for him right now in storylines. IN the next month or so I would not be surprised to see him get a good angle going and have place on RAW.

Also, I was reading a couple things off of RajahWWF.com. First, if Cena wins the Royal Rumble he would choose to face Triple H (New Ruling Rumble Winner can Choose which Champ to face) which would then transfer him to Raw full time. This would make him one of te top faces on Raw after Goldberg leaves WWE. The other thing that I read was that Kurt Angle might be headed back to the dark side and turning heel possibly by February's SmackDown exclusive PPV. This makes me think who they would turn face that is already a heel because they would need someone, unless they decide to bring Edge back to SmackDown instead of Raw.

[Se7en the movie]

now this is what i hate, RAW have too many wrestlers and dont use half of them (not well anyway) and smackdown are losing wrestlers every month now who move to RAW, cena moving to RAW? that is a very silly idea and what i see as horrible news

[jbailey84]

did The Rock and Shawn Michaels ever fight eachother? i wouldnt mind seeng that match sometime in the future.

[IamMrDJ]

I don't think that they did because when HBK was still wrestling back in 1998 he was a headliner and Rock was just starting out. Then while Rock was a headliner HBK was retired. It would be interesting to see those 2 go at it, but I almost think that we never wioll because both those guys are so over with the fans no one will know who to side with, although I would side with HBK in a heartbeat and I assume Kyle would as well..

[jbailey84]

thats one of my many dream matches to see. yeah i would side with HBK.

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by jbailey84
did The Rock and Shawn Michaels ever fight eachother? i wouldnt mind seeng that match sometime in the future. I remember that: once upon a time, Shawn Michaels refereed a match between Rock, and Triple H. Triple H won because of Shawn Michaels hitting the Sweet Chin Music on the Rock!!!

[jbailey84]

oh yeah, wasnt that on the first episode of SmAcKdOwN?

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
I agree with you that they do need to get as much out of Goldberg that they can before he is gone. I would much rather have Goldberg face Brock at Wreslemania instead of a re-match against Rock.

As For Matt, Well it was his choice to switch shows so that he could travel with Lita. The writers have said that the reason he is not being used is taht they don't have a spot for him right now in storylines. IN the next month or so I would not be surprised to see him get a good angle going and have place on RAW.

Also, I was reading a couple things off of RajahWWF.com. First, if Cena wins the Royal Rumble he would choose to face Triple H (New Ruling Rumble Winner can Choose which Champ to face) which would then transfer him to Raw full time. This would make him one of te top faces on Raw after Goldberg leaves WWE. The other thing that I read was that Kurt Angle might be headed back to the dark side and turning heel possibly by February's SmackDown exclusive PPV. This makes me think who they would turn face that is already a heel because they would need someone, unless they decide to bring Edge back to SmackDown instead of Raw.

Well they were teasing us with a Matt vs Christian/Lita storyline but decieded to keep Christian heel. After the Rumble they'll have something for him. If Cena did go the RAW I think they could do some great matches with him and Orton but I think they should hold off until they're much bigger in the company. Apparently RAW and SD! are fighting over who gets Edge.

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah both shows are fighting over him and if Raw does get him I expect to see a trade happen for Edge since he was last on SD before his injury.

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by jbailey84
oh yeah, wasnt that on the first episode of SmAcKdOwN? I don't think it was the first episode, but it was a Smackdown show!!

[Se7en the movie]

are WWE trying to kill smackdown, why do all the new wrestlers go to RAW? expect for people like the cat and as much as i like ernest miller he hasnt been on for ages. I say leave cena and edge on smackdown

[slinger]

RVD should go to Smackdown. They've pretty much gone through the list of opponents. Jericho, Christian, Kane, HHH, Orton. They could use Batista but he would be better off on Smackdown where him and Pauly could do something.

Benoit is number one and Goldberg is number thirty. Hopefully Benoit can last til the end and toss out Goldberg. Yeah right.

[slinger]

Also the Backlash PPV will be in Edmonton! Chris Benoit's hometown. Now if he were to win the Rumble and there is this rumour of picking any champ [HHH or Lesner] then it might be Benoit vs HHH at Rexall Place since Backlash is a RAW Only PPV. Odd that they picked Edmonton, since Wrestlemania XX will be the biggest hyped up wrestling event ever and then the next month's PPV will be in Edmonton. Now Canadians are smart wrestling fans, but you would think cities like Montreal or Boston might get the PPV after WM. Anyway Benoit would be way over at that PPV. Short of the Hitman returning, nobody will get a bigger reaction then Chris. That of course if he is with RAW.

[Se7en the movie]

whats the next PPV for feburary? if benoit or cena move to RAW and no one comes from RAW to Smackdown, then consider Smackdown dead, cause despite having one of the best wrestlers (lesner) of both shows, who will fight him?

[IamMrDJ]

This is the rumored card for February's PPV. I will pout it in Spoiler Tags for anyone that does not want to see. It gives away a little bit about some matches this SUnday night.


Brock Lesnar vs. Eddie Guerrero for the WWE Title

Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero for the WWE Cruiserweight Title

John Cena vs. The Big Show for the U.S. Title
For the John Cena match if he does win the Rumble and decides to face Triple H. I would expect him to lose this match and then jump shows.


I doubt that if anyone jumps shows they would do it without any trades. RVD could be a good choice to go to SmackDown. You made a good point Slinger that he has gone through all the other wrestlers on Raw and needs something new. With the other high-flyers on SD I think he would do good there.

[stonefaced_1]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
This is the rumored card for February's PPV. I will pout it in Spoiler Tags for anyone that does not want to see. It gives away a little bit about some matches this SUnday night.


Brock Lesnar vs. Eddie Guerrero for the WWE Title

Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero for the WWE Cruiserweight Title

John Cena vs. The Big Show for the U.S. Title
For the John Cena match if he does win the Rumble and decides to face Triple H. I would expect him to lose this match and then jump shows.


I doubt that if anyone jumps shows they would do it without any trades. RVD could be a good choice to go to SmackDown. You made a good point Slinger that he has gone through all the other wrestlers on Raw and needs something new. With the other high-flyers on SD I think he would do good there.

I thought they were considering saving the Brock Lesnar vs Eddie Guerrero match for Wrestlemania 20. Oh well I guess that would be fine with me. I also hate the idea of Cena switching shows. Who is going to wrestle on Smackdown? Mr. Overrated Randy Orton? HHH? Who? HHH will never let himself get beat by Orton. He would squash him like he has every other heel on the card. Cena is fine on Smackdown. There is no room for him as a heel, seeing as Raw deesn't have any faces, except for Micheals, Goldberg, and I think Jericho.

Anyway would do think will win the rumble? My pick is a questionable one. John Cena.

[jbailey84]

you guys are lucky that you get to see it. we dont have a sat.dish or cable to order from :( we just moved here to Germany about 2 months ago,from Texas. ill have to read what happens

[Se7en the movie]

slightly off topic of the royale rumble but why in that is good in the world is 'the worlds worst wrestler' mark henry still wrestling? i mean even spike dudley used to be good in ECW until he got **** in WWE (I guess he didnt get a chance to be taking huge bumps which he is excellent at) but like i was saying how it that slow unskilled fool mark henry allowed to wrestle fantastic wrestlers like jericho and such.........

[Colorado Cajun]

Cena will be a massive face soon. He'll be prepped to be the next Rock

[jbailey84]

im guessing they arent having any 'surpise' entry's for the rumble this year.

from rajahwwf.com
RAW Brand
Kane, Booker, Goldberg, Steiner, Christian, Chris Jericho, Mark Henry, Rico, Hurricane, Spike Dudley, Matt Hardy, Test, Rene Dupree, Randy Orton, RVD

SmackDown Brand:
Kurt Angle, John Cena, Chris Benoit, Billy Gunn, Rikishi, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Nunzio, Big Show, Matt Morgan, Tajiri, A-Train, The Cat, Bradshaw

well SD brand might, cause i counted 14. and when did matt hardy jump to Raw?

[IamMrDJ]

MAtt jumped to Raw at the beginning of December, he wanted to be closer to Lita and be able to travel with her.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by jbailey84
im guessing they arent having any 'surpise' entry's for the rumble this year.

from rajahwwf.com
RAW Brand
Kane, Booker, Goldberg, Steiner, Christian, Chris Jericho, Mark Henry, Rico, Hurricane, Spike Dudley, Matt Hardy, Test, Rene Dupree, Randy Orton, RVD

SmackDown Brand:
Kurt Angle, John Cena, Chris Benoit, Billy Gunn, Rikishi, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Nunzio, Big Show, Matt Morgan, Tajiri, A-Train, The Cat, Bradshaw

well SD brand might, cause i counted 14. and when did matt hardy jump to Raw?

Well with that one last opening on the SD Roster for the Rumble I have a thought.

Inside of the ring we are getting down towards the end of the Rumble with less then 10 superstars to go. ONe of the remaining superstars is Kane. Entry #29 comes up and the lights go down and the music hits "Old School Undertaker's Music" as the lights come back up we see someone running to the ring wearing a hooded robe. As the wrestler enters the ring he runs at Kane and clothesline him over the top sending himself over the top as well. Lights go out again and before Kane has time to react the hooded wrestler is gone. Thus ending Kane's bid at being the Rumble winner and begining Kane's frantic search for the Undertaker who thought he buried at Survivor Series.

So, what do you think of my teory here. It is a long shot but thought it might make a good one.

[IamMrDJ]

I just got this off of RajahWWF.com regarding upcoming WWE DVD's.

Submitted by J Bratcher on January 23, 2004 at 3:37 PM

Good news for all those Undertaker fans out there as the WWE has released a new Undertaker DVD titled "He Buries Them Alive." The hour-long DVD features old school "Dead Man" Undertaker against the likes of Yokozuna, The "Fake" Undertaker (Summerslam '94), Kwang (Savio Vega), Jerry Lawler, and Jim Neidhart. The DVD retails for $9.99.

The WWE has terminated its plans for a similar 60 minute Steve Austin DVD as they are planning a 2 disc set incorporating ECW and WCW footage, that will mirror the new Mick Foley DVD.

There are several DVD projects currently in the works for Kurt Angle, John Cena, a 3-disk WrestleMania XX set, and a few others.

I was looking forward to the Austin DVD but if they do decide to do a better DVD compared to the likes of the new Foley one which I just picked up today then I am all for it. I am surprised that the Undertaker one is not that big compared to some of the other wrestler related DVD's released altely, but I will get it because he is The Undertaker. IMO, this continues to build on his return as the "Dead Man"

[jbailey84]

thatd be awesome! hope he does return as the old school taker. wonder what color his gloves will be? grey, purple, black? oh thanks for answering the matt hardy question.

[jbailey84]

ive got the He Buries them Alive on VHS years ago when it came out

[slinger]

This was brought up on TSN.ca/wrestling

HBK vs Y2J for the World Title. HBK has the title match, they have history and many would argue that they had the best match last year at Mania and their feud was never resolved. Since Jericho is slowly turning face it would be FACE/FACE passing of the torch kinda thing. Title match or not it would be good, but Jericho doesn't have to win the Rumble.

1 spot is left open. Edge could make an early return. But best bet is Taker. Also I wouldn't be suprised if they found one wrestler injured during the PPV and thus a empty slot opens up.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger
This was brought up on TSN.ca/wrestling

HBK vs Y2J for the World Title. HBK has the title match, they have history and many would argue that they had the best match last year at Mania and their feud was never resolved. Since Jericho is slowly turning face it would be FACE/FACE passing of the torch kinda thing. Title match or not it would be good, but Jericho doesn't have to win the Rumble.

1 spot is left open. Edge could make an early return. But best bet is Taker. Also I wouldn't be suprised if they found one wrestler injured during the PPV and thus a empty slot opens up.

I don't see how HBK would be passing the torch quite yet. He recently re-signed with WWE and is under contract till the end of 2005. It would be a great match to see though. Last years Mania match was just amazing.

As for Edge returning early that is very doubtful. He is just about to start getting back into the ring and work off his rust. They would not push him back so early. There is talk of him even returning the week after Wrestlemania since Mania is 2 weeks earlier this year.

[IamMrDJ]

I can't believe that I passed this up when I was surfing RajahWWF.com. They make some good points and it has got my mind working now.


Submitted by J Bratcher on January 23, 2004 at 12:25 AM

Thanks to reader Arvind from bangalore, India for sending the following regarding a possible idea on who will win this year's Royal Rumble due to a clue given out by The WWE website:

The Photo of the day cloloumn over at the WWE website today(23-01-04) has a photo of the Royal rumble match of 1994. The match was won by both Bret Hart and Lex Luger as stated on the website.but continuing it, the following words are written:

"January 22, 1994: In perhaps the most controversial moment in Royal Rumble history, Lex Luger and Bret Hart were both eliminated at the same time. After a split over who should win, WWE President Jack Tunney ruled that both Superstars would be declared the winner. Will the 2004 Rumble see similar controversy? "

so my idea is that there will be a JOINT WINNER in this year's Royal Rumble and the winners being Chris Benoit and Goldberg. they may get the choice of selecting their opponents and thus setting up the:

BROCK LESNAR vs GOLDBERG & CHRIS BENOIT vs TRIPLE H match at Wrestlemania XX


So what do you think of this idea? It would make for a very interesting Rumble finish.

[jbailey84]

would make a interesting Rumble finish. wonder fans remember that that happend 10 years ago. that was an awesome finish though. i remember watching that live on PPV. rooting for Bret. and that casket match with Undertaker Vs Yokozuna was cool. "I...will not...Rest...In...Peace...":D

[Rogue]

*perks up* Someone mention Edge? ;)

Who's watching the Rumble tomorrow? I'm buying it if for nothing else than to see HBK and Trips go at it.

[IamMrDJ]

Ok here is the latest news off of RajahWWF.com and it is very interesting.

Submitted by Rajah on January 24, 2004 at 2:38 PM

- Undertaker's name has been popping up a lot backstage at WWE events. Whether this means he is returning at Royal Rumble remains to be seen, but either way, his return is imminent.

- Chris Benoit is the favorite to win the Royal Rumble as 2004 with Bill Goldberg as the other favorite. However, Goldberg winning is considered unlikely since he has yet to sign a contract extension with WWE.

- No matter who wins the World tag team title match between Ric Flair/Batista and the Dudley Boyz, the plan is to keep the program between the teams going beyond Royal Rumble.

- Eddie Guerrero is expected to go over clean in his match against Chavo Guerrero. Eddie is being primed for a main event push later this year and all previous plans of a long-term Chavo/Eddie feud have been dropped.

- The official release of the Flair DVD in Canada is on Tuesday, January 27.

Source: Dave Meltzer @ wrestlingobserver.com


OK the news of Undertaker's name popping up. Further helps my idea of him being the 15th member of the SmackDown! roster in the Rumble. The other news is very interesting as is the Flair DVD release in Canada. I have a friend who moved to Canada a couple years ago and is mad that he can't get the Flair DVD yet.

[Colorado Cajun]

Am I the only one who thinks Cena should win the Rumble? Seriously he has the most talent of any young guy out there and is so frickin over right now. I say hand him the ball and turn him into the next superstar

[IamMrDJ]

Oh I want him to win the Rumble as well CC. I think that it would be a big step for the WWE giving a younger wrestler a shot at the title.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by jbailey84
im guessing they arent having any 'surpise' entry's for the rumble this year.

from rajahwwf.com
RAW Brand
Kane, Booker, Goldberg, Steiner, Christian, Chris Jericho, Mark Henry, Rico, Hurricane, Spike Dudley, Matt Hardy, Test, Rene Dupree, Randy Orton, RVD

SmackDown Brand:
Kurt Angle, John Cena, Chris Benoit, Billy Gunn, Rikishi, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Nunzio, Big Show, Matt Morgan, Tajiri, A-Train, The Cat, Bradshaw


I was surfing WWE.com last night looking for the entire Rumble Card and came across their listing of the 30 participants for the Rumble. All the above wrestlers were mentioned and the mystery 30th man was listed as Rhyno. NO I am not sure if they are putting Rhyno in just to throw off speculation of it being Undertaker or if he will be the 30th man. Just thought I would let you all know.

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Ok here is the latest news off of RajahWWF.com and it is very interesting.



OK the news of Undertaker's name popping up. Further helps my idea of him being the 15th member of the SmackDown! roster in the Rumble. The other news is very interesting as is the Flair DVD release in Canada. I have a friend who moved to Canada a couple years ago and is mad that he can't get the Flair DVD yet.


For some reason WWE DVDs take few months longer after the US release date to be released in Canada. I'm lucky since I've watched it on Fanatic Series for free.

[sniktawt]

But you don't get the bonus matches on the fanatic series.
Which is the real reason to get the DVD set.

Nice to see Rikishi in another Rumble.

Keeping and extending his record setting rumble appearances.
This will be his 10th Appearance.

[Rogue]

Rumble predictions - laugh if you want to ;)

Rumble winners: Cena or Benoit, Kane or Orton.

WWE Championship: Lesnar

World Heavyweight Championship: HBK or I'm boycotting :mad:

Tag Match: Flair and Batista win by cheating

Cruiserweight Championship: Mysterio

[Se7en the movie]

ok ok ok, all answers i would agree with (although i dont like anything bout the tag match cause i really dont like the dudleys anymore and ric flair, though i do think he is a great character should retire), but cena, benoit, kane and orton should be big contenders but the one who will definately win (as much as i dont want him to) is GOLDBERG mark my words.........

[Rogue]

Goldberg hasn't signed a contract extension - I think his being in the Rumble is a hoax. I'd love to see Benoit or Cena win it, as much as I can't stand Cena, he can perform. My odds out favorite is Benoit though.

[Se7en the movie]

goldberg's contract runs out after wrestlemania so i believe.........

[Rogue]

My point - what would the point be to have him when a title shot only to have him leave after WM?

[slinger]

So people would buy just to see a Lesner/Goldberg match.

They said its two minutes, last year it was 1.30 minutes. But two minutes is the best since it will last over one hour!

It would be cool if Foley came out right after Orton and eliminated him!

[sniktawt]

I know most of the hardcore fans on here are getting the Rumble but if you're didn't get to see it , I usually post the results, here are the Results:

*VICTORIA with Stevie Richards Defeated MOLLY HOLLY in a noN-title match on HEAT following the widow's peak.(3/5 solid match )
*RIC FLAIR & BATISTA retained their WWE WORLD TAG TITLES over THE DUDLEY BOYZ in a table match after BATISTA put D-VON through a table.COACH came down to taunt the DUDLEYZ to throw them off. (1/5 Short unspectacular match...This should have been longer and better.Terrible opener IMO.)
*REY MYSTERIO defeated JAMIE NOBLE to retain his WWE CRUISERWEIGHT title after Nidia "accidently" Tripped NOBLE up to set up the 619.(2/5 Another quick match with no time to really do much, Again with time this would have been better)
*EDDIE GUERRERO defeated CHAVO GUERRERO with the Frog Splash following the trio Suplex.(3.5/5 good solid match with huge pops for EDDIE.But again seems the matches are really cut down as this one should have had more time)
EDDIE does a post match beatdown on CHAVO & CHAVO SR.
*BROCK LESNER retained his WWE CHAMPIONSHIP over HARDCORE HOLLY after The F-5.(2/5 This was a very boring match which was too grounded with way too much time on the mat.
Fans seemed bored with this one, I know I was.Matches like this should be on TV not PPV.HARDCORE did not deserve a PPV title shot.)
*TRIPLE H retained his WWE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP over SHAWN MICHAELS in a Last Man Standing match in a draw after both men were unable to continue.(4/5 Awesome match, with some great highspots and lots of blood with both men "blading", Michaels's missed flying cross body through the spanish announce table being one of them.SHAWN still has it and has proved it 3 straight PPV'S in a row.Huge pops for Shawn as usual.
The ending sucked though making this a 4 star match instead of 5.
In a match like this there should have been a winner.
This is obviously a setup for a later match)

*ROYAL RUMBLE MATCH*

ENTRIES

1.CHRIS BENOIT
2.RANDY ORTON
3.MARK HENRY
4.TAJIRI
5.BRADSHAW
6.RHYNO
7.MATT HARDY
8.SCOTT STEINER
9.MATT MORGAN
10.THE HURRICANE
11.BOOKER T
12.KANE
13.SPIKE (NEVER GOT IN)
14.RIKISHI
15.RENE DUPREE
16.A-TRAIN
17.SHELTON BENJAMIN
18.ERNEST MILLER
19.KURT ANGLE
20.RICO
21.MICK FOLEY (WHO ATTACKED TEST FOR THE SPOT)
22.CHRISTIAN
23.NUNZIO
24.THE BIG SHOW
25.CHRIS JERICHO
26.CHARLIE HAAS
27.BILLY GUNN
28.JOHN CENA
29.ROB VAN DAM
30.GOLDBERG

ELIMINATIONS

1.BRADSHAW (BY BENOIT)
2.TAJIRI (BY RHYNO & MARK HENRY)
3.MARK HENRY ( BY CHRIS BENOIT)
4.THE HURRICANE ( BY MATT MORGAN)
5.SCOTT STEINER (BY BOOKER T)
6.KANE (BY BOOKER T AFTER BEING DISTRACTED BY TAKER'S GONG)
7.SPIKE DUDLEY (NEVER ENTERED , DUE TO ATTACK BY KANE)
8.RHYNO (BY BENOIT)
9.MATT HARDY (BY RENE DUPREE)
10.RENE DUPREE (BY RIKISHI)
11.MATT MORGAN (BY BENOIT)
12.RIKISHI (BY ORTON)
13.BOOKER T (BY ORTON)
14.A-TRAIN
15.SHELTON BENJAMIN (BY ORTON)
16.ERNEST MILLER (BY ORTON)
17.RICO (BY ORTON)
18.RANDY ORTON ( BY FOLEY)
19.MICK FOLEY (BY HIMSELF )
20.CHRISTIAN (BY JERICHO)
21.HAAS (BY GOLDBERG)
22.GUNN (BY GOLDBERG)
23.NUNZIO (BY GOLDBERG)
24.GOLDBERG (BY ANGLE)
25.JOHN CENA (BY SHOW)
26.RVD
27.JERICHO (BY SHOW)
28.KURT (BY SHOW)
29.SHOW (BY BENOIT)

WINNER-CHRIS BENOIT

(5/5...Rumble's never disappoint and this one had quite a few surprises, The Taker Gong and Mick Foley ADDITION AND THE LESNER ATTACK ON GOLDBERG were all a nice touch.
Definite WM setups.
BENOIT put on an incredible performance.)

[Kyle Katarn]

ROGUE - get the TABLES!!! :mad: :D

Thanks for the results - I wuz broke, so no Rumble! :o

[sniktawt]

*ROYAL RUMBLE MATCH*

ENTRIES

1.CHRIS BENOIT
2.RANDY ORTON
3.MARK HENRY
4.TAJIRI
5.BRADSHAW
6.RHYNO
7.MATT HARDY
8.SCOTT STEINER
9.MATT MORGAN
10.THE HURRICANE
11.BOOKER T
12.KANE
13.SPIKE (NEVER GOT IN)
14.RIKISHI
15.RENE DUPREE
16.A-TRAIN
17.SHELTON BENJAMIN
18.ERNEST MILLER
19.KURT ANGLE
20.RICO
21.MICK FOLEY (WHO ATTACKED TEST FOR THE SPOT)
22.CHRISTIAN
23.NUNZIO
24.THE BIG SHOW
25.CHRIS JERICHO
26.CHARLIE HAAS
27.BILLY GUNN
28.JOHN CENA
29.ROB VAN DAM
30.GOLDBERG

ELIMINATIONS

1.BRADSHAW (BY BENOIT)
2.TAJIRI (BY RHYNO & MARK HENRY)
3.MARK HENRY ( BY CHRIS BENOIT)
4.THE HURRICANE ( BY MATT MORGAN)
5.SCOTT STEINER (BY BOOKER T)
6.KANE (BY BOOKER T AFTER BEING DISTRACTED BY TAKER'S GONG)
7.SPIKE DUDLEY (NEVER ENTERED , DUE TO ATTACK BY KANE)
8.RHYNO (BY BENOIT)
9.MATT HARDY (BY RENE DUPREE)
10.RENE DUPREE (BY RIKISHI)
11.MATT MORGAN (BY BENOIT)
12.RIKISHI (BY ORTON)
13.BOOKER T (BY ORTON)
14.A-TRAIN
15.SHELTON BENJAMIN (BY ORTON)
16.ERNEST MILLER (BY ORTON)
17.RICO (BY ORTON)
18.RANDY ORTON ( BY FOLEY)
19.MICK FOLEY (BY HIMSELF )
20.CHRISTIAN (BY JERICHO)
21.HAAS (BY GOLDBERG)
22.GUNN (BY GOLDBERG)
23.NUNZIO (BY GOLDBERG)
24.GOLDBERG (BY ANGLE)
25.JOHN CENA (BY SHOW)
26.RVD
27.JERICHO (BY SHOW)
28.KURT (BY SHOW)
29.SHOW (BY BENOIT)

WINNER-CHRIS BENOIT

[sniktawt]

I can't stand Benoit but I guess he deserves to go to WM .
Next to Shawn's 1995 Rumble Performance, This was the second Best.

[Colorado Cajun]

Benoit just is lackin in personality imo. He can perform with the best of them, but so can Cena, Christian, Matt Hardy, Booker, RVD and Jericho. Plus all of them have personality and so much better mic skills. If they're going to create a superstar and give them ball; it should be one of them

[sniktawt]

Well I guarantee that he won't be in a one on one match at Wrestlemania.They'll tweak that in the coming weeks I hope.
He's not Marquee and like you said, Matt, he's got no charisma.

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by Rogue
Rumble predictions - laugh if you want to ;)

Rumble winners: Benoit

WWE Championship: Lesnar

World Heavyweight Championship: HBK or I'm boycotting :mad:

Tag Match: Flair and Batista win by cheating

Cruiserweight Championship: Mysterio

Right on all the matches, A bit off on just one but you weren't wrong, shawn didn't lose.

Good job on the predictions.:)

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
Benoit just is lackin in personality imo. He can perform with the best of them, but so can Cena, Christian, Matt Hardy, Booker, RVD and Jericho. Plus all of them have personality and so much better mic skills. If they're going to create a superstar and give them ball; it should be one of them

I agree with you all except for Matt Hardy - I think he needs to work on his mic skills. He seems a bit mechanical and choppy in his speech. It may be his personality or whatever but it sounds to me like he needs to work on them a bit. I think Benoit would do fine if he just had the chance to get on the mic a little bit more.

About RR -

I laughed my ass off when Cena was cutting his promo backstage and RVD came out then Cena started rapping about RVD and "mary jane" :D

I'm surprised Evolution won the tag match cleanly, I figured there'd be something dirty in there but I couldn't find it.

About HBK and Trips - it was an okay match I'm just sorry it ended the way it did. I thought it was a nice touch that HBK walked out while Trips was rolling out. Rematch on Raw? I honestly think it's time for Trips to let go and for HBK to have a go at being champion. Ah well, it could have ended much worse than it did.

As for the Rumble, I was glad to see Benoit end it. I think he really deserves a shot and a title reign. The little man is a frickin' workhorse! I don't think the Rumble would have been half as good if he wasn't in it. On a side note, I cussed like a sailor when Hurricane got thrown out right after he came in. :mad:

Overall, it wasn't a bad PPV. Better than what I was expecting. 7/10

Road to WM has begun.

Oh, and Cena is seriously beginning to grow on me. I hated him when he was first starting to shine but I enjoy watching him now - he absolutely cracks me up.

[IamMrDJ]

I had all the matches picked correctly except I picked HBK to win the title. It helped me to win $30 tonigiht.

I was upset with the crappiness of the first 3 matches of the night but the Last Man Standing Match made up for it by far.

I was right in a little way regarding Kane losing the Rumble. We never saw UNdertaker but his music distracted him enough to cause him to freak out. The Goldberg and LEsner feud seems to be building now. I can see a Benoit trade for Goldberg to set up both of these matches for Mania.

It was hilarious when Goldberg and LEsner werechatting and Goldberg said "Right Hardcoe" and LEsner freaked out. My friends adn I also called Test being jumped by Foley to send him down to the ring.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Right on all the matches, A bit off on just one but you weren't wrong, shawn didn't lose.

Good job on the predictions.:)

I don't think I was wrong about the HBK/HHH match - in my opinion, HBK is the champion now. JR said that a lot of people are going to leave thinking he is and I agree with that. Anyone else see Trips favoring his leg? I'd wager anything he's gone and ****ed up his quad again. The guy can't go a month without an injury of some sort.

[Rogue]

Oh yeah! I about pissed my pants when the gong hit..I sqealed. :funny: I was seriously, seriously hoping and praying that Taker was going to walk down that ramp.

Anyone else laugh at Nunzio cowering in the corner? :hehe:

[slinger]

when Kane came out I said "Watch the Undertaker will come out next." Then the lights and gong! Good to see they went this way.

Goldberg and Lesner is on. Remember they've been saying "win the Rumble and face the Champion." My theory is that it'll be Kane and Goldberg for Benoit and ??? Yes Benoit isn't great at mic skills otherwise he would've won long ago. But I think it's great that he won (from the start, then left with Big Show after six men couldn't eliminate him) and will now be in the championship match.

Maybe a Triple Threat Match: Trips vs the only 2 men to beat 29 men in a Royal Rumble.

Don't care for Goldberg so I enjoyed Lesner giving him the F5 and Angle then eliminating Goldberg. So if a trade happens I bet it'll be Angle vs Goldberg for the number one contender. Perhaps a match at NWO.

Last Man Standing Match was great, but whatever greatness was created was distinguished with the draw. Rather see Evolution cost HBK the match then see a draw. And Foley! Knew that was coming when Test wasn't showing. Cena and Show at No Way Out. Watching the other less than stellar matches on the replay.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Rogue

Anyone else laugh at Nunzio cowering in the corner? :hehe:

My friends and I were laughing so hard at him hiding in the corner. Then when Cena came out and saw him he tried to hide even more that was hilarious.

[slinger]

Not Good News: Cena Injured? (http://www.tsn.ca/wrestling/news_story.asp?ID=69685&hubName=wrestling)

http://www.tsn.ca/images/stories/20040125/cena_injured_83866.jpg

[IamMrDJ]

I knew something had to be wrong. His knee went one waya dn his body the other way. I could see at the bottom of the screen the ringside guy give the "X" for a legit injury. I hope he is ok though.

[Rogue]

I hope he isn't hurt. Interesting thing about the arm signal, I didn't know that. There's so much I don't know about wrestling but I'm hoping to learn.

[ZombieMan]

Did Undertaker come back as the old Undertaker??? Please say yes!!!! I didn't get to see the Rumble.

[sniktawt]

Kudos to TSN for putting that screen cap up.

Looks like Cena may miss WM if it's as bad as it looked.

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
Did Undertaker come back as the old Undertaker??? Please say yes!!!! I didn't get to see the Rumble.

Did you read my results recap.
He didn't come back.
But his old bong music hit when Kane was in the Rumble.
IT's a tease to lead into their WM match when he returns as the Dead man.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Kudos to TSN for putting that screen cap up.

Looks like Cena may miss WM if it's as bad as it looked.

The article said he was walking..hopefully he just sprained it or banged it hard.

[sniktawt]

Yeah , this always happens to a talent that is ready to get the Uber push.
I hope it is just a sprang.He's too good to be out long.

[IamMrDJ]

Got this off of RajahWWF.com this morning

Submitted by J Bratcher on January 26, 2004 at 2:30 AM

During the 30-Man Royal Rumble main event, it appeared as though John Cena may have blown out his knee or ankle when he landed badly during his elimination from the match. Fortunately, it has been confirmed that Cena was not injured and is fine after the match.

This is very good news that he will be ok.

[stonefaced_1]

Now with Benoit winning the rumble he should move to Raw to give HHH a match at wrestlemania. The WWE owes Benoit a title run, but do you actually think HHH might job at the biggest show of the year?

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Got this off of RajahWWF.com this morning



This is very good news that he will be ok.

Good to hear.

Yes now that Benoit does have a title match will he win? Austin, Trips and Lesner are the most recent Rumble winners and they won the title in their matches. But this is wrestling's biggest event ever. HHH will probably win, but Benoit would win the rematch in his hometown of Edmonton at the Backlash PPV.

[ZombieMan]

I don't see WWE letting Triple H lose his title at the biggest event of the year. I don't think they will let Benoit have the title at Wrestlemania but perhaps they will at the next PPV after Wrestlemania.

[jbailey84]

sorry this is of topic some, but does anyone know if wwe plans on releasing old ppvs on dvd anytime soon? like wrestlemania 8,summerslam 93, survivor series 96, royal rumble 93, ya know old ppv's like those. cause i dont to waste all my money on vhs and find out that it will be on dvd.

[IamMrDJ]

I have not heard anything yet about them releasing old PPV's on DVD. I was talking to some friends about the same thing last night. I want them to release a PPV Set for each year that has the big PPV's for that year. I won't dare buy any old PPV's until I see them on DVD, I just can't do it.

[jbailey84]

here are the old pay per views that i want, that i can think of, though most are on DVD

Wrestlemania
8 (Hogan Vs Sid, Flair Vs Savage, Taker Vs Jake Roberts)
9 (Las Vegas, Bret Vs Yokozuna,Taker Vs Giant Gonzalez)
12 (Shawn Vs Bret, Taker Vs Diesel)
13 (Taker Vs Sid, Stone Cold Vs Bret)
16 (Stone Cold Vs Shawn?)
17 (rock Vs Stone Cold?)
18 (rock Vs Hogan)
19 (Kurt Vs Angle)

Survivor Series
'90
'91 (Taker's debut)
'93
'94
'97 (Bret screw job?)
2002 (Elimination Chamber)

Royal Rumble
'93
'94 (Winners Bret & Lugar)
'96 (Shawn M Wins?)
2000 (Taz's debut, Rock Wins)
2001 (Stone Cold Wins)
2002 (HHH Wins)
2003 (Brock Wins)
2004 (Benoit Wins)

Summer Slam
'93
'94
'95
'96 (Taker Vs Mankind Boilerroom Brawl)
'98 (Highway to Hell Taker Vs Stone Cold Feud)
2002 (Rock Vs Brock)
2003 (Elimination Chamber)

[IamMrDJ]

Some sad news posted on RajahWWF.com just a couple hours ago.

Submitted by J Bratcher on January 26, 2004 at 5:18 PM

Former "President" of the WWE, Jack Tunney, passed away on Saturday at the age of 68. In addition to his significance in pro wrestling in the US, Tunney was also involved for years in the promotion of the sport in Toronto. Funeral services will be held tomorrow at the Holy Rosary Roman Catholic Church on 354 St. Clair Avenue West at 10 am. We wish his family the best.

[Rogue]

:( RIP, Jack. That's horrible.

[Kyle Katarn]

RIP Jack... :(

I was digging through some old posts and found this - the thread never took off, but hoped you guys would get a kick out of it! ;)

http://comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=492460#post492460

[Inval1d]

"DA: Objection!

Judge: *tosses Austin a beer* Overruled!

*Austin chugs the beer and flips off the DA*"
:funny::funny:

RIP Jack.

[IamMrDJ]

That video clip package for the Undertaker was awesome. The look on Kane's face was priceless.

[Kyle Katarn]

H Yeah!!!! *raises lighter in anticipation!*

So, Benoit is after the Raw title, and will face HHH....OR HBK, he said! :D

And Lesner is 'NEXT!"

And here come Foley!

EDIT: Foley's SNAPPED!!!! If I was Orton, Id've peed my trunks about halfway through the promo! :eek:

[Inval1d]

I loved the Video for the Undertaker. it gave me chills.

Mick Foley cracked me up with his "Loogie" chants.

[Rogue]

Ugh, the end of Raw made me gag. :eek:

Ah well, it's good to see Mrs. Foley's baby boy snap. Orton deserved it.

Eh, is it me or is Jericho turning big time?

[Inval1d]

I see Jericho turning big time too.

was it just me or did Foley hit himself so hard it made him bleed?

[Kyle Katarn]

Indeed he did....:eek:

[Rogue]

I so hope Jericho turns..he's so adorable when he's face. :D

[Kyle Katarn]

I hope he finds someone to call a dirty, bottom feeding bargain basement trash-bag HO! :hehe:

That's why I love No Mercy on N64 - you can re-live Jericho vs Steph!

[Inval1d]

I love Jericho's insults when he was a face...

they always involved steph and hoes. :D

[stonefaced_1]

I like the idea of Jericho being face. It should lead to a good series of matches with Christian. That and there aren't enough good faces on raw.

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by stonefaced_1
Now with Benoit winning the rumble he should move to Raw to give HHH a match at wrestlemania. The WWE owes Benoit a title run, but do you actually think HHH might job at the biggest show of the year? Doubtful!! Triple H isn't one to put anyone else over(i.e. RVD, Booker T, or even Kevin Nash).

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by stonefaced_1
I like the idea of Jericho being face. It should lead to a good series of matches with Christian. That and there aren't enough good faces on raw. I agree! Jericho needs to be a face again, and I could see him feuding with either Christian, or Matt Hardy.

Personally, I think that 3 people who would greatly benefit from going over from Smackdown, to RAW are: Sheniqua, John Cena, and Rey Mysterio. Now, yes Mysterio is a Cruiserweight, but he could be a possible IC Title contender. Don't you think?

[Myers]

We need another Jericho vs HHH feud again, or Jericho vs Kane, but they both seem booked up for WrestleMania.


BTW, Kane vs Old Skool Undertaker will OWN!!!!

[Se7en the movie]

Originally posted by HotBoy
I agree! Jericho needs to be a face again, and I could see him feuding with either Christian, or Matt Hardy.

Personally, I think that 3 people who would greatly benefit from going over from Smackdown, to RAW are: Sheniqua, John Cena, and Rey Mysterio. Now, yes Mysterio is a Cruiserweight, but he could be a possible IC Title contender. Don't you think?

they better not go to RAW, honestly smackdown has no one left and RAW has too many to deal with........

[mOVIEmONSTER]

Bring back Degeneration X...

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by mOVIEmONSTER
Bring back Degeneration X...

Not gonna happen. Road Dogg will not be welcomed back to WWE anytime soon even if he is clean and sober for a couple years. X-Pac has got his own thing going right now and Chyna will not come back because she was dating Triple H before he strated seeing Steph. Also she will not come back if there is any chance X-Pac would, she has a restraining order agianst him.

[mOVIEmONSTER]

Damn Strait soap opera stuff, That sucks they always made me laugh...

[jbailey84]

bringing back d-X wont work at all. look what happend to the nWo...

[stonefaced_1]

Originally posted by jbailey84
bringing back d-X wont work at all. look what happend to the nWo...

Exactly. The WWE needs new ideas, it needs to re-invent itself. Rehashes of things in 1998 won't work anymore.

[jbailey84]

it'll be cool if they do start new factions/groups, but dont bring back old ones.

[Se7en the movie]

evolution is probably the best idea WWE has had in a while

[slinger]

Great idea having a Royal Rumble match on smackdown! Great stuff. Angle has now failed twice to win for the troops, interesting to see how that plays out. Eddie and Brock should be great. It'll be a much better match than Brock vs Goldberg.

Show and Cena. Think they'll have a special kind of match. Remember when Show was beaten by everybody on RAW?

[slinger]

This was brought up, WWE Champion Eddie vs Angle at WrestleMania XX. Goldberg will spear Lesner during the match, costing Lesner the title. that way Goldberg and Lesner could have a match where it doesn't matter who wins. Eddie and Angle both have something here and Angle as heel would be the best thing for him.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger
This was brought up, WWE Champion Eddie vs Angle at WrestleMania XX. Goldberg will spear Lesner during the match, costing Lesner the title. that way Goldberg and Lesner could have a match where it doesn't matter who wins. Eddie and Angle both have something here and Angle as heel would be the best thing for him.

I like that idea I just don't know if Eddie is ready to be WWE Champ. He is an awesome wrestler adn I would love to see him win at NO Way Out. That would also help the LEsner vs. Goldberg match at Mania because Goldberg could win (yeah right) and not get the Belt.

I am also glad that they are turning Angle heel again. I have always liked him as a Heel.

[jbailey84]

what ever happend to Angle's 3 I's character? i loved how he would diss the town they were at.

[Se7en the movie]

benoit on RAW! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i like angle's character now, i suppose only for the reason that smackdown has enough heels and needs faces.

i wish they'd keep the coach on commentry on RAW cause JR and the king are kinda losing it.....

[Rogue]

Call me crazy but I actually liked it when Tazz and JR teamed up. I thought they had good chemistry. Don't get me wrong, I love the King, he cracks me up, but he just doesn't seem to have it anymore. JR knows his stuff but he needs a younger counterpart that can keep him on his toes and I think Tazz did that. By the way, I can't stand Coach. ;)

[slinger]

you're crazy!

No I liked the teaming of those two. Imagine if it was Cole and King...

[Rogue]

Okay so if Benoit went to Raw, who's the trade for him? Or is Smackdown just minus a guy?

[Se7en the movie]

thats the problem smackdown probably wont get anyone and be down a fantastic wrestler who smackdown need cause this are running low on world title contenders as it is

[game354]

NO MORE BRAND EXTENSION!!!!!! make it like the old days again

[Rogue]

Personally I'd love to see it all on Monday night but I doubt they'll do that.

[slinger]

Originally posted by Rogue
Okay so if Benoit went to Raw, who's the trade for him? Or is Smackdown just minus a guy?

There minus a guy. Since the Royal Rumble winner faces the champion. Benoit used that as a loophole to get to RAW.

Possible trade: Goldberg for Undertaker....

Yeah the only contenders are Angle, Lesner, Eddie, Big Show and Cena. [oh don't forget Hardcore Holly] But Edge does came back after Mania. And with the right angle Rey Myesterio could become champ. but Vince would never do that. To me he seems to be way over.

[IamMrDJ]

I got this information off of RajahWWF.com this morning.


>Posted by: Rajah @ 2/2/2004


- The Backlash PPV in April is expected to be headlined by Triple H defending against Chris Benoit, since the show will be held in Benoit’s hometown of Edmonton.

- As of this writing, Edge is expected back in action just after Wrestlemania. He is recovering well from neck surgery and could conceivably work the PPV but the feeling amongst WWE officials is that they’d rather wait after Wrestlemania to bring him back since they don’t want to risk his return getting lose in the shuffle when Mick Foley, Rock and Undertaker are all expected to make their returns to wrestling at that time as well.

- Some WWE officials feel as if Garrison Cade will join Rene Dupree as future superstars for the company somewhere down the line.

- It’s looking more and more likely that Jeff Hardy could be returning to WWE in the near future as a way to strengthen the Cruiserweight division on Smackdown!.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter. Subscription information and prices are available @ wrestlingobserver.com


The news about Edge adn Jeff HArdy is what really caught my attention. I am sure Rogue likes those same headlines.

[slinger]

For the Backlash PPV it would be great if Bret Hart cost HHH the match. RAW the next night would be in Calgary.... Hitman has said Benoit is the best worker today and would feel most safe with him if he had to wrestle anybody today.

[jbailey84]

that would be awesome!!!!

[Kyle Katarn]

MAN, the "Taker tease" tonight was f$*%@ SWEET!

Kane slams Goldberg, the lights go out, lightning hits the ring and the video plays. Then they come back up and Goldberg spears Kane...but that's not all! As Kane lies there, mist coveres the ring and the lights go blue, and Kane sits up in horror and runs through the crowd as the bell tolls! :cool:

And one of the greatest HBK quotes ever, as Orton interuupts Shawn while he's polishing his boots:
Orton: Whaddaya doing?
HBK: I'm cleaning Hunter's blood off my boots!

And...could there be a double feature in Playboy with STACY and JACKIE??? :eek:

[slinger]

Originally posted by jbailey84
that would be awesome!!!!

http://www.rajahwwf.com/news/2004/02/02/11/

Reportedly the plan now is for Triple H, Chris Benoit and Shawn Michaels to wrestle in a triple-threat or three-way match for the World title at Wrestlemania XX. It was originally thought that Triple H would wrestle Chris Benoit for the title in a rematch from Backlash, where they are still scheduled to wrestle.

SO with HBK at the main event that could be the match to end all matches. And I like the Hart-factor. He shows up costs HBK the match but unfortunetaly Benoit also loses. But he makes up for it at Backlash.

Not able to watch RAW tonight.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
MAN, the "Taker tease" tonight was f$*%@ SWEET!

Kane slams Goldberg, the lights go out, lightning hits the ring and the video plays. Then they come back up and Goldberg spears Kane...but that's not all! As Kane lies there, mist coveres the ring and the lights go blue, and Kane sits up in horror and runs through the crowd as the bell tolls! :cool:

And one of the greatest HBK quotes ever, as Orton interuupts Shawn while he's polishing his boots:
Orton: Whaddaya doing?
HBK: I'm cleaning Hunter's blood off my boots!

And...could there be a double feature in Playboy with STACY and JACKIE??? :eek:

Your right the UNdertaker tease was just amazing. I can't wait to see him back.

The PLayboy Magazine has already been shot and it has Sable and Torrie Wilson in the same ring.


For Slinger: The HArt idea is interesting but you know that it will never happen. Bret is on better terms with VInce but not enough to make a return to the WWE in any fashion.

[slinger]

Yeah it's highly unlikely he would show. It would just take away from Benoit as the new champ and he's stated he would never return to the WWE. But Goldberg was never supposed to be in the WWE. (of course it looks like just for one year)

[jbailey84]

Originally posted by Slinger "Reportedly the plan now is for Triple H, Chris Benoit and Shawn Michaels to wrestle in a triple-threat or three-way match for the World title at Wrestlemania XX. It was originally thought that Triple H would wrestle Chris Benoit for the title in a rematch from Backlash, where they are still scheduled to wrestle. "

bret could cost Shawn and HHH the title, helping out Benoit to win it

[jbailey84]

from wrestling-online newsletter Collin Vassallo

"ROCK STARTS FILMING NEW MOVIE
- Pre-production is over, and now it's show time. Filming started on Monday for the movie 'Be Cool', in which The Rock has a supporting role as a gay bodyguard with dreams of breaking into acting. The movie is the sequel of 'Get Shorty' with John Travolta once again playing the leading role. Danny DeVito, James Gandolfini, Uma Thurman, Vince Vaughn, Christina Milian and Joe Pesci are also a big part of the movie. Due to the movie The Rock's commitment to wrestling has been cut to just an
appearance at WrestleMania although it's still not confirmed on what The Rock will be doing or who will be wrestling at the event. After filming ends The Rock starts preparation for promoting his new movie 'Walking Tall', and then starts filming 'Spy Hunter' in the Summer, which will keep him out of WWE for pretty much the rest of the year."

[Rogue]

I want Taker back SO bad. That fog was amazing..and seeing Kane sit up like that *gasp* ..fantastic. Can't wait for the Dead Man.

Can't wait to see Edge either..damn I miss him! Once he's back, all they need is Jeff Hardy and I'll be content. ;)

[IamMrDJ]

Rogue did you see my pst yesterday about the possibility of Jeff amking a return to the Cruiserweight division. It is 8 or 9 posts up.

[slinger]

Originally posted by jbailey84
from wrestling-online newsletter Collin Vassallo

"ROCK STARTS FILMING NEW MOVIE
- Pre-production is over, and now it's show time. Filming started on Monday for the movie 'Be Cool', in which The Rock has a supporting role as a gay bodyguard with dreams of breaking into acting. The movie is the sequel of 'Get Shorty' with John Travolta once again playing the leading role. Danny DeVito, James Gandolfini, Uma Thurman, Vince Vaughn, Christina Milian and Joe Pesci are also a big part of the movie. Due to the movie The Rock's commitment to wrestling has been cut to just an
appearance at WrestleMania although it's still not confirmed on what The Rock will be doing or who will be wrestling at the event. After filming ends The Rock starts preparation for promoting his new movie 'Walking Tall', and then starts filming 'Spy Hunter' in the Summer, which will keep him out of WWE for pretty much the rest of the year."

Watched some the the Mick Foley Fanatic Series PPV today. Old School Undertaker I'm thinking will appear on RAW on the 23rd. Rumour is that the The Rock would team with Foley and it would be them vs Orton/????.

It would be great if Bret Hart came out from beneath the ring and attacked HHH, and put HBK in the sharpshooter and then let Benoit pin HBK.

[jbailey84]

originally posted by slinger "It would be great if Bret Hart came out from beneath the ring and attacked HHH, and put HBK in the sharpshooter and then let Benoit pin HBK."

that would be awesome! bret should hit shawn with a chair then put him in the sharpshooter.

[slinger]

Smackdown! Spoiler from Rajah

Kurt Angle def. Hardcore Holly. Heyman comes out, and is about to
announce the No. 1 contender, but Big Show interrupts and comes to the
ring to plead his case. Then John Cena interrupts and Heyman makes a
Cena-Show-Angle match at No Way Out for the No. 1 contender spot. Cena
leaves, Heyman leaves, then Kurt and Show go nose to nose and and Kurt
slams Show. I would guess the show cuts off before Kurt slams Show
because they started swearing at that point.

That should be a good match and further cements the Angle vs Eddie for the WWE Championship, Show vs Cena for the US Title, and Brock vs Goldberg matches at WrestleMania XX.

[slinger]

Eddie vs Angle (WWE)

Goldberg vs Lesner

HHH vs Benoit vs HBK (WC)

Women's Title Match

The Rock/Foley vs Orton/???

The Undertaker vs Kane

Christian vs Jericho

Big Show vs Cena (USC)

RAW Tag Titles Match

Crusierweight Title Match
(Possible Battle Royal)

Smackdown Tag Titles Match

Right there is 11 matches I don't see that much more being booked. Remember the RAW Tag Title match was demoted to HEAT last year. RVD, Matt Hardy and Booker T don't seem to have anything lined up. I could see RVD and Booker T form a tag team.

[IamMrDJ]

Well it is a 5 hour PPV so they could add some more matches to the fold. I have heard that the Cruiserweight BAttle Royal would not be the typical over the top battle royl but a battle royal where the opponents have to be eliminated by being pinned. If the rumors of Jeff HArdy being brought back it would be cool to see him appear as a mystery surprise participant.

I have also read in numerous sites that Orton's mystery partner most likely will be Batista. THat would mean that Flair and Batista will lose the Tag Titles by then or there will not be a tasg title match. But I think Vince wants al the titles up for grabs at WMXX.

[Colorado Cajun]

somehow Edge has to be involved as well

[IamMrDJ]

If he does appear it will be just that an appearence. Everything I have read says that he won't be back "in-ring" until ateast April

[jbailey84]

well from reading the wm xx card, here are my picks

Angle
Lesnar
Benoit
Rock/Foley
Undertaker
Jericho
Cena

that would be an interesting tag team with Booker T & RVD

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Well it is a 5 hour PPV so they could add some more matches to the fold. I have heard that the Cruiserweight BAttle Royal would not be the typical over the top battle royl but a battle royal where the opponents have to be eliminated by being pinned. If the rumors of Jeff HArdy being brought back it would be cool to see him appear as a mystery surprise participant.

I have also read in numerous sites that Orton's mystery partner most likely will be Batista. THat would mean that Flair and Batista will lose the Tag Titles by then or there will not be a tasg title match. But I think Vince wants al the titles up for grabs at WMXX.

Maybe it should be a Handicap match. And have Orton win. Rock and Foley would challenge him to see if he truly is the Legend Killer. Or just keep The Rock out. Also if the Undertaker comes to RAW, I can see Orton and Taker having a great fued.

Stone Cold will probably do something with Coach.

I read that they didn't want to bring back Edge since they're already bringing back Taker, Foley and The Rock. He would be kinda lost in the mix, I think. I see him returning on the first Smackdown helping Eddie out.

[Se7en the movie]

WWE are coming to IRELAND!!!!!!!! its been so long.............its the RAW guys too. So is undertaker gonna stay with RAW when he returns, i hope not cause smackdown is dead then

[IamMrDJ]

I have read that Undertaker will stay on Smackdown he is only going to be on Raw to stalk Kane but then head back to SD!. With Kurt turning heel soon Undertaker will be the headlining Face on SmackDown!

[BKB#1]

Does anyone think that Vince sending Chris Benoit to RAW is nothing more than another opponent for HHH to beat since the HHH/Shawn Michaels angle is sort of old now, especially after the Last Man Standing match at the Royal Rumble when everyone booed at the outcome of that match... People don't pay $40-$50 or more to see a double knockout.. They want a winner... Also, if you go to Prowrestling.com, they say Goldberg is leaving after WM XX and that the match between him and Lesnar will not be a Heavyweight Title match.. Thoughts???

[IamMrDJ]

Nothing new about Goldberg leaving, I have been posting news about his leaving since December.

As for BEnoit jumping to Raw it is the in a way the only way that the shows can trade wrestlers. Triple H is suppose to turn face soon and be dumped by Evolution and I hope that comes soon. I have read that there might be a new Evolution member arriving before Wrestlemania XX. The new member looks to be Maven.

[slinger]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Does anyone think that Vince sending Chris Benoit to RAW is nothing more than another opponent for HHH to beat since the HHH/Shawn Michaels angle is sort of old now, especially after the Last Man Standing match at the Royal Rumble when everyone booed at the outcome of that match... People don't pay $40-$50 or more to see a double knockout.. They want a winner... Also, if you go to Prowrestling.com, they say Goldberg is leaving after WM XX and that the match between him and Lesnar will not be a Heavyweight Title match.. Thoughts???

Goldberg will cost Lesner the match and then they'll have there own match about a month later. So Goldberg could win that match and then leave. Eddie would win the title and Angle would win the Triple Threat at NWO.

Undertaker will appear in 34 days....

That just happens to be WrestleMania. Should give Taker more time to grow the hair. Hopefully my dish doesn't crash. It crashed for for 19 but not 18. If you saw RAW, everyone wanted Taker. I'm sure they're going to have him go after the title again.
Enjoyable Raw tonight.

[BKB#1]

I was reading where the higher ups at the WWE Headquarters are having a tough time with WM XX and promoting it with no big matches to promote that will draw people in.. This is where Hulk Hogan really was the BEST at drawing people in, even if he was wrestling a "SPECIAL ATTRACTIONS" Match and merely him doing his thing would be worth the $$$ alone but Vince just won't have anything of it and he feels that he shouldn't have to rely on his wrestlers of yesterday to put his company over and that they should be able to do it with who they have now.. Myself, I don't agree with him cause the wrestlers now lack that charisma that Hogan had to draw people in and sales for house shos are down as a result of that.. Here 's a link to alot of what I said:

WWE WrestleMania XX Plans Seemingly Not 'Creative' Enough
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February 9, 2004 - Source: Various
There appears to be some serious second guessing going on backstage within WWE about the creative plans for WrestleMania XX.
There is some concern by some of the higher-ups that the company hasn't announced anything huge as of yet. Usually, WWE promotes a big match for months in advance. With this being the 20th Anniversary, one would think WWE would want to hype the matches up huge rather than just give them a small buildup.

Some cable systems are planning an almost unprecedented media blitz to promote the show and that systems are counting on the event to deliver a significant amount of their pay per view revenue this year.

The next 7-10 days will really be the main hype for WMXX.


"So if the Old Undertaker gimmick is the only thing they have to push and Vince is charging 50 bucks a pop for this, he's better have some better matches than this.. How about bringing Bret Hart back and sucking up your pride for screwing him several years back??

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
somehow Edge has to be involved as well

*perks up* What what what? Edge..and a rumor of Jeff Hardy?! *drools* My WWE dreams are coming true..now if the Rock would just come back. :(


I about had a stroke when the Taker video aired.."In 34 days.." I was so happy. I can't wait to see him back!!

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by BKB#1
"So if the Old Undertaker gimmick is the only thing they have to push and Vince is charging 50 bucks a pop for this, he's better have some better matches than this.. How about bringing Bret Hart back and sucking up your pride for screwing him several years back??

Vince has asked Bret to come back before but he has turned it down on numerous ocassions.

WWE and Vince are going with the Double Main-Event for this eyars Wrestlemania but they cannot promote it until after this Sunday's No Way Out PPV because that is when they will set it up. The second main event being Brock vs. Goldberg.


Posted by: J Bratcher on 2/10/2004

* Judging by past WrestleMania numbers, promoting a few matches as parallel “main events” resulted in a diluted PPV as the impact of the true main event match(s) with regard to their impact and marketing power. With this being said, the WWE will be promoting WrestleMania XX as a double main event PPV with those being the two heavyweight title matches. The 2nd tier of matches will likely be Foley & Rock vs Orton & Batista or Flair, and Undertaker vs Kane, however these and all other matches will only receive minimal promotion. Matches such as Angle vs Guerrero, and Cena vs Big Show will be the likely undercard.



*perks up* What what what? Edge..and a rumor of Jeff Hardy?! *drools* My WWE dreams are coming true..now if the Rock would just come back. :(



Rogue Rock will be at Wrestlemania for you

[stonefaced_1]

So far I am really starting to like the looks of WMXX. Raw wasn't bad monday night either. I think the WWE is gradually starting to improve.

[IamMrDJ]

Two recent releases by WWE:

Chris Kanyon and Zach Gowen

[Colorado Cajun]

yes now Kanyon can go to TNA and haopefully be used right and get tv time

They so should team him with Raven again

[jbailey84]

whoa! no Way out is this sunday? what matches are there besides the WWE championship, triple threat for #1 contender, rey jr vs chavo, and jamie noble vs nidia?

[Se7en the movie]

kris kanyon was a great character and wrestler in WCW his DDP stuff was really funny! its disappointing how WWE screwed up a lot of the wrestlers which came from ECW and WCW.........of course there are exceptions

[Inval1d]

I can't wait untill WMXX rolls around with The Undertaker.

I can't wait to see the lights go out and here the bells ring. Then Undertaker come out in his gothic persona again. I'm so excited. :D

[Inval1d]

Ernest Miller Released!

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Wrestling-Edge Says,

"We have just been told by several backstage sources that Ernest 'The Cat' Miller was informed of his WWE release at the SmackDown! tapings last night in Tacoma, WA. Miller had been on commentary on Velocity for several months prior to being moved to SmackDown! as a full time worker.

Miller is the latest name to join the likes of Zach Gowen and Chris Kanyon who have both been cut as well.

More cuts are coming, trust us when we tell you that."

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So...who do you think will be next?

[Se7en the movie]

ERNEST MILLER!! thats insane, they didnt even give the guy a chance!

[Inval1d]

Originally posted by Se7en the movie
ERNEST MILLER!! thats insane, they didnt even give the guy a chance!

for real, I liked him as the commentator

[IamMrDJ]

I don;t know what happened with him. They spent all that time preparing him for his premiere on Smackdown and then he is gone in just over amonth.

[Inval1d]

maybe they weren't impressed with his in-ring and out-ring performance?

[BKB#1]

Anyone else besides me sort of disappointed that the Main Event for WM XX Has been reduced from HHH vs Chris Benoit to a now Triple Threat Match with HHH vs Chris Benoit vs HBK??? I guess on Monday night RAW, HBK Couldn't stand another wrestler capturing the WWE Title spotlight from him and as a result, super kicked Benoit and signed the contract for the Main Event at WM XX, Not to mention the fact that they've been reporting on various wrestling sites(I know they are RUMORS) that this would be the main event as well??? Why?? Why??? Why??? Why can't we have just 1 main event at the major super bowl of wrestling type of pay per view like WM where it's a new wrestler taking on HHH instead of another HBK vs HHH rehash type of match?? Why???

[sphericthor]

The Sun Newspaper - the UK's biggest seller - held an online poll to find out our readers favourite wrestlers and moments of 2003.

Here are the winners of the Golden Robes 2003

Wrestler of the year

1) Shawn Michaels – 19 per cent

2) Bill Goldberg – 18 per cent
3) John Cena – 12 per cent
4) Brock Lesnar – 11 per cent
5) Kurt Angle – 11 per cent

2002 winner: Kurt Angle
2001 winner: Steve Austin


Best entrant to the WWE

1) Bill Goldberg – 68 per cent

2) Team Angle (WGTT) – 12 per cent
3) Sable – seven per cent
4) Spanky – four per cent
5) Ultimo Dragon – three per cent

2002 winner: Brock Lesnar
2001 winner: Rob Van Dam


Favourite feud of 2003

1) Kurt Angle v Brock Lesnar – 20 per cent

2) Steve Austin v Eric Bischoff – 15 per cent
3) Kane v Shane McMahon – 15 per cent
4) Shawn Michaels v Chris Jericho – 14 per cent
5) Triple H v Bill Goldberg – 11 per cent

2002 winner: Triple H v Shawn Michaels
2001 winner: Steve Austin v Kurt Angle


Most Memorable Moment

1) The ring collapsing as Brock Lesnar superplexes Big Show – 28 per cent

2) Kane unmasking to show the world his face for the first time – 15 per cent
3) Steve Austin saying farewell at Survivor Series – 12 per cent
4) Goldberg destroying everyone in the Elimination Chamber – 10 per cent
5) The Rock putting on a concert for Steve Austin – 7 per cent

2002 winner: Hulkamania returning after Hogan v Rock at WrestleMania
2001 winner: The reformation of ECW



Best independent wrestler

1) Raven – 26 per cent

2) Jeff Jarrett – 22 per cent
3) AJ Styles – 20 per cent
4) Juventud Guerrera – seven per cent
5) American Dragon – five per cent

This award was previously for the best British wrestler and went to William Regal in 2001 and 2002.

[jbailey84]

thats pretty cool. cant believe Goldberg got 68% for Best Entrant,wow. that was an awesome moment when the ring collapsed

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Anyone else besides me sort of disappointed that the Main Event for WM XX Has been reduced from HHH vs Chris Benoit to a now Triple Threat Match with HHH vs Chris Benoit vs HBK??? I guess on Monday night RAW, HBK Couldn't stand another wrestler capturing the WWE Title spotlight from him and as a result, super kicked Benoit and signed the contract for the Main Event at WM XX, Not to mention the fact that they've been reporting on various wrestling sites(I know they are RUMORS) that this would be the main event as well??? Why?? Why??? Why??? Why can't we have just 1 main event at the major super bowl of wrestling type of pay per view like WM where it's a new wrestler taking on HHH instead of another HBK vs HHH rehash type of match?? Why???

I am not disappointed at all. BEnoit has been on Raw for less tha a month and he is already going for the World Title. HE needs to get use to wrestling skills and techniques of Raw Brand wrestlers including the biggest man around, Triple H. A match with Benoit, Trips and HBK is a good diea in my opinion because Chris will be training with two of the best technical wrestlers on Raw. Without enough training a one-on-one match might not go over so well. Did you see the Lesner vs. Holly match at the Rumble? Holly has been a great wrestler over the years but he is a little guy compared to Lesner. In a way Benoit is a little man compared to both Trips and HBK because he does not get to train with either of the wrestlers let alone see either of them except for on Joint PPV's. Anyways they have already stated that the Backlash PPV in April will feature Benoit in the Main Event, which comes to us from Benoit's hometown.

As for 1 main event at WM that is not possible. We have two seperate brands of WWE joining together for this event and both are going to share the spotlight. At Survivor Series the SmackDown! wrestlers felt underused, I understand why the SmackDown Survivor Series Match was the first one of the night and the Cruiserweight Match was pulled. They need two main events for this show because it is a 5 hour PPV and one main event will not hold it together.

[slinger]

SummerSlam
Survivor Series
Armageddon
Backlash
SummerSlam
Royal Rumble
WrestleMania XX

Those are all the PPVs that HBK and HHH have been in matches in since his return. Then there are all the episodes on RAW. Adding a Triple Threat makes the match better. HBK still has it and Benoit is in either the top two or three wrestlers in the WWE today. HBK and Benoit are also the only two men to survive 29 other wrestlers in the Rumble. They'll use that. Then there is the outcome. Does Trips win? Does HBK get it? Or maybe Benoit does win instead of winning it at Edmonton. Chances are Triple H will win. I don't recall watching a bad Triple Threat Match, but I do recall watching bad singles matches with HHH involved. Also the WWE Championship will be the last match of the night. I believe The Rock said that nothing will ever come after a WWE title match at WrestleMania. Look at the past few years. Angle and Latino Heat will close out the night.

[jbailey84]

i hope hhh loses the title this year at WMXX. he faced booker t last year right? and still kept it. LET GO OF THE TITLE HHH! THERE WILL BE ANOTHER TIME!

[slinger]

And the year earlier he beat Jericho for the title. I think this will be the order of the MAIN EVENTS.

Angle vs Eddie (last) - Eddie cheats to win.

Kane vs Undertaker - It would be great if Kane finally defeated Undertaker at WrestleMania but I think this feud will continue with Kane winning the rematch.

Goldberg vs Lesner - If it's Goldberg's last match, might aswell let him win. The fans would want it. Vince makes a run in and so has a reason to fire him.

HHH vs HBK vs Benoit - Trips pins HBK. Benoit vs HHH next month.

Foley vs Orton (first) - Orton needs to kill another legend but Foley will still look great.

[jbailey84]

how many times has HHH have the title now? is he trying to out do Ric Flairs 16 17 whatever time champion he is?

[jbailey84]

from sources at prowrestlingnews.com

"In what looks to end speculation that Steve Austin will be wrestling a match at WrestleMania, WWE has officially come up with a role for Steve Austin at WrestleMania.

Stemming from the developments on RAW, the plan is currently for Steve Austin to serve as the guest referee for the Lesnar/Goldberg match at WrestleMania. This is not 100% definite, as WWE's plans do change, but this is far more than a rumor, as it is "the plan" right now.

It was originally expected that Austin would end up working a match with Vince, but such plans were scrapped. He was also rumored for a match with Hogan, but nothing materialized on that front, and unless Hogan is signed immediately, that's not expected to happen either. Thus, the guest referee angle looks to be where WWE is headed."

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger
And the year earlier he beat Jericho for the title. I think this will be the order of the MAIN EVENTS.

Angle vs Eddie (last) - Eddie cheats to win.

Kane vs Undertaker - It would be great if Kane finally defeated Undertaker at WrestleMania but I think this feud will continue with Kane winning the rematch.

Goldberg vs Lesner - If it's Goldberg's last match, might aswell let him win. The fans would want it. Vince makes a run in and so has a reason to fire him.

HHH vs HBK vs Benoit - Trips pins HBK. Benoit vs HHH next month.

Foley vs Orton (first) - Orton needs to kill another legend but Foley will still look great.

I think there is a better chance of Triple H losing the title then of Kane defeating Undertaker at Maina. I mean come on Taker has never lost a Mania match now and I doubt they would start him losing now. Foley vs. Orton is almost garunteed to be a tag match with Rock and most likely Batista involved in it. I think you are right on with the order of matches though.


Here are some news briefs off of RajahWWF.com this afternoon I found interesting.


Former WWF superstar, Ed “Brutus the Barber Beefcake” Leslie, caused an Anthrax scare yesterday in the Boston subway station where he works as a fare collector. At first it was thought to be Anthrax and local authorities acted as if that were the case, however it turned out to be Leslie’s cocaine to which he later admitted and has entered a rehab facility for his drug abuse.

As we approach the much anticipated return of the Undertaker to WWE, he will be back as a full-time talent on the Smackdown roster, not a part-time role as some had first thought.

The Rock had gone on record late last year stating that he was going to be a big part of WWE TV in January and March, however it now appears that he will only be making a few appearance on TV before WrestleMania and those will likely be taped vignettes. McMahon is The Rock’s Hollywood agent and receives a significant payout from all his movie deals, therefore the WWE isn’t really missing out financially by not having Rock appear at WWE events. The Rock does feel, however, that he owes McMahon this WrestleMania appearance as he will be teaming with Foley against two members of Evolution.

[slinger]

Well I don't think Kane will win, but to give the fans a suprise let Kane win. I don't see him winning the WWE or World Title anytime soon so having him be the only opponent to beat Taker at WrestleMania would be the next best thing. It would help with their feud.

[IamMrDJ]

That would be a big surprise but having this as the Dead Man's big return I really don't see it happening.

[IamMrDJ]

HEre is an article posted on RajahWWF.com they got from WWE.com regarding the recent firings.


Posted by: Larry Jackson on 2/13/2004
The following is an article from WWE.com:

Jim Ross, Executive Vice President of Talent Relations, spoke with WWE.com Friday morning. Here are some excerpts from the conversation:

* On Zach Gowen: “There’s not a living human being alive who shouldn’t admire his passion and dedication. Zach’s so young. We certainly wouldn’t be surprised to see Zach back with us some day. We wish him nothing but the best. I’m sure that he’s going to stay very busy.”

* On Kanyon: “I’ve always thought that Chris Kanyon is a very talented in-ring tactician. I’ve always appreciated his being a lifelong fan because I can relate to that. The fact that the guy does have considerable skills in the ring and the fact that he still, at this age, has many years of in-ring activity ahead of him, it only seemed fair, if we weren’t going to do anything with him, to not string him along and to be honest with him and say, ‘We don’t have anything.’ And give him the opportunity to go wrestle because that’s what he loves doing. So that’s what we did. Chris was a model locker room talent – always punctual, always professional, great attitude. He’ll be a great addition to anyone’s locker room or anyone’s event. It’s just that at this point, there weren’t any opportunities with him.”

* On Ernest “The Cat” Miller: “Ernest was in a situation that I’m not sure he was totally comfortable in, but we all have to adapt. Ernest has great charisma and verbal skills. We made the decision that there’s no sense in retaining Ernest when we see that we’re not going to use him as much as we envisioned, and utilize his skills as much as we had hoped.”

* On reports that there’s a “mass firing of talent” forthcoming in WWE: “There’s no truth to the rumors that we’re getting ready to have a mass firing of talent. We also evaluate our roster 52 weeks a year and just as in any other business there will be comings and goings from time to time for a variety of reasons. There are always going to be times when people are going to no longer remain with the company, which creates opportunities for new people to be added to the roster, and we have several new faces in OVW (Ohio Valley Wrestling) who are ready to contribute. Talent rosters always evolved, since I worked in the territory days, in which guys would work in one territory and go to another. It has always been that way. But because there’s only one national territory, anytime someone comes and goes, it becomes ‘news.

’ There are probably guys on the roster who have read some of these Internet reports. That’s not fair to them. That’s not how we are going to handle business, nor have we handled business that way. And I find it journalistically offensive.”

[jbailey84]

anyone have any guess's on who's next to get fired/released?

[slinger]

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28 days til WM. Four more RAWs and Smackdowns.

Tommy Dreamer might be released. He was sent down to OVW. But he's rarely used on RAW. Also Maven's mother recently passed away due to cancer.

[Inval1d]

No Way Out Results

1. Shaniqua and the Basham Brothers vs. Rikishi and Scotty 2 Hotty (Tag Team Champions)
WINNERS: Rikishi and Scotty ( Still Champs )
2. Jamie Noble vs. Nidia ( Boyfriend VS. Girlfriend Blindfold Match )
WINNER: Jame Noble
3. Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin vs. The APA
WINNERS: Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas
4. Rhyno vs. Hardcore Holly
WINNER: Hardcore Holly
5. Chavo Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (Cruiserweight Champion)
WINNER: Chavo ( New Champ )
6. The Big Show vs. John Cena vs. Kurt Angle (#1 Contenders Match)
WINNER: Kurt Angle
7. Eddie Guerrero vs. Brock Lesnar (WWE Champion)
WINNER: Eddie ( New Champion )


I'm so glad that Eddie won. I was surprised though. I thought he would get screwed over but him winning made my day. :D

[Kyle Katarn]

Eddie - Smackdown champ?!? VIVA LA RAZA!!! :applaud:

[Warren]

Two PPVs in a row with great endings. WMXX better f**king own.

[SteUK2004]

Havent watched WWE for ages... bit boring now.
Watched a bit of the 'Royal Rumble' a few weeks ago though.

[Rogue]

Hell yeah! I was so happy to see Eddie win it. Although, I was expecting someone like Heyman to come out and strip him of it so I was pleasantly surprised when he was allowed to keep it. 'Bout damn time Lesnar lost it. I was a bit disappointed to see Angle win that though. I must admit, Cena has grown on me and I wanted to see him win.

:funny: Absolutely love Rikishi and Scotty - they crack me up. Shaniqua :evil: ..she scares me. Glad she finally got hers.

Awww poor Rey, that upset me. I can't stand Chavo and I really hoped Rey would retain but ah well. Do I smell a rematch at WM?

Undertaker video = :cool: I so cannot wait until my favorite is back!

Overall, I was pleasantly surprised with No Way Out. I wasn't originally going to buy it but I changed my mind out of boredom and I was happy with what I saw.

BRING ON WM!!!

[slinger]

RajahWWF.com:

There is a rumour circulating that HHH does not want to work with Chris Benoit after Wrestlemania XX and is pushing to have Edge on RAW so he could work an angle with him. If this rumour is remotely true expect HBK to cost Benoit and himself the title at WrestleMania. That could lead to a match between HBK and Benoit in Edmonton with HBK being the heel.

It was Triple H’s idea to make his originally scheduled one-on-one match against Chris Benoit at Wrestlemania into a three-way which also included Shawn Michaels. There is also some talk that the bout will be turned into a ladder match but that has not been confirmed.


now this makes sense. Alberta is Hart Country and while HBK is still loved in Canada if you put Benoit in a match against HBK, HBK is the heel. Only problem is that wouldn't make Benoit the champion or even being in a championship match at Backlash. And Smackdown needs Edge way more than RAW. If Edge does do to RAW they need to send Booker T and RVD to Smackdown since they're being undersued over there.

Triple Threat Ladder Match?! Book that match right now Vince!

[Rogue]

Edge on Raw? :eek: If Taker and Edge come to Raw, I'll have no reason to watch SD! anymore. It's my dream come true.

[slinger]

Reports say Taker is staying on Smackdown. And that Goldberg will be on both shows so the WWE can get the most out of him before he leaves.

[Rogue]

I thought there was a possible Kane/Taker angle in the works? If so, how are they going to do that with the guys on different shows?

[Warren]

Isn't the Undertaker coming back exactly on Wrestlemania?

[slinger]

Yeah I don't know how they're going to do it. He will appear at WrestleMania. Maybe in a video a challenge to Kane will be made or something. Vince sets it up. Gotta watch RAW I guess.

[jbailey84]

cant wait to see Taker come back as the 'dead man'. very exciting!

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger


Tommy Dreamer might be released. He was sent down to OVW. But he's rarely used on RAW. Also Maven's mother recently passed away due to cancer.

Maven won't be released. WWE is excited about him and where he can take the company in the future. He has been rumored as the next member of Evolution after he comes back from surgery.

I was thinking that Tommy might be the next one released but I don't think that will happen either now that he is going to OVW. When they send wrestlers to OVW to work with the new guys it is because they don't have an angle or storyline for them to currently work. Right now they have Ivory adn Jacquline in OVW right now as well so they are just looking for some new wrestlers to help out for now.

I just got done watching the PPV, I had to record it because I had to work last ngiht. I had every matched picked perfectly. Not too many surprises during the show. I knew Eddie would win and I knew Kurt would as well. Chavo winning was inevitable because of the Cruiser BAttle Royal next month. The rest of the matches needed some work though because I was fast-forwarding through them alot.

[jbailey84]

did eddie win fair and square, or did he have some help

[Warren]

Goldberg helped.

[Rogue]

Maven in Evolution? I don't see it..he's fantastic as a face but I feel as a heel he'd seriously be lacking. He's not like Trips or his brood.

[DangerMouse]

I've been watching Pro Wrestling since before there was a WWF.

A few observations on the current state of Wrestling.

Guys like HHH killed WCW and are hurting the WWE. I seriously hope for the betterment for Pro-Wrsetling and its entertainment value, he gets some sort of injury that prevents him from wrestling again. Then Vince hopefully will realize that no man should have that much push in the WWE.

A triple threat match between HHH, HBK, and Benoit is about the dumbest idea for a Wrestle Mania event on the face of the planet.

Wrestle Mania is about 1 on 1 match ups. Save the "gimic" matches for a lesser pay per view.

Hey Vince, do what you can to retain Goldberg, then switch him to SmackDown.

Then take Angle or another top Face from SmackDown and move them over to Raw. Then again, it won't make any difference, HHH would just hold down that character anyway.

Speaking of wrestlers being "held down", give RVD a World Title run already.

The longer HHH stays champion, the more I miss the days of wrestling alternative like WCW.

When WCW pulled s*it like this, I could watch WWF.

The only thing I can do now is turn my TV Off.

[slinger]

Don't know how they'll top that Undertaker/Raining on Kane promo.

[Kyle Katarn]

I got the latest Raw mag tonight, with a great HBK cover/interview...

It was interesting to see that his 3 year old son dosen't know exactly what daddy does for a living. You can control what your kid watches, but Shawn - what happens when he's riding in the grocery cart and sees Daddy on that magazine cover? :D

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by slinger
Don't know how they'll top that Undertaker/Raining on Kane promo.

That was awesome. I have a feeling that in the next week or two we will get a darkened arena with Kane in the ring and when the lights come up we will have a casket on the stage. They will make it out to be the casket that Kane buried Undertaker in and now it is empty or something to that point.

I keep thinking that the throne that we keep seeing in the Undertaker video clips will come into play. We see it every week and a couple of times during each video so it has got to have a purpose.

As for the comments made by DangerMouse I have a few responses.

Guys like Triple H have not hurt wrestling. I am sorry but I think that without him around we would not have as many high caliber wrestlers that we do today. I would rather a wrestler like Triple H have that much push in the WWE then Vince going around bringing in old and boring gimmicks that everyone has seen before.

A gimmick match a WrestleMania is a good idea IMO because without the gimmick what is to make it different then a regular night on Raw. Look at tonight’s Raw. I was very happy with the show but there were no gimmick matches and yes they were great but I don’t want to see the same exact thing at WM XX. Benoit has never worked a main-event WrestleMania match before but both of his competitors have and who else to train a deserving star like Benoit?

Goldberg has already declined a recent contract resigning. WWE wanted to have control of all his worldwide holdings but Bill declined since he still has contract dates booked overseas. I have a feeling Vince’s decision next week is going to be related to the fact that both Raw and SmackDown! are going to share Goldberg until his contract runs out at the end of March. SmackDown! Can’t afford to give up any more wrestlers let alone faces (Also Kurt is to turn heel at or before Mania).

RVD is being held down from a major singles title yes but that is because him and Vince have not seen eye-to-eye for a couple of years now. Vince has told RVD time and time again to tone down the high-flying moves because he does not want RVD to injure himself but RVD won’t listen. As long as RVD continues to not listen, Vince will not push him for a title. But at least RVD has got the tag titles now with Booker. I have a feeling they will hold them until Mania.

Well that is all I have to say for now. My head is pounding from earlier tonight still.

[slinger]

I think Vince will challenge Eric to a New York City Street Fight. They just released the Monday Night Wars DVD. Plus Vince would want to have a match and that seems like the only other one to top his previous outtings. And he'll win. But it would be great if Eric finally defeated someone and his name wasn't J.R.

Eddie vs Angle (WWE)
Lesner vs Goldberg
HHH vs Benoit vs HBK (WC)
Women's Title Match
Foley vs Orton
Kane vs The Undertaker
Christian vs Jericho
Eric vs Vince
Big Show vs Cena (USC)
Crusierweight Title Match (Possible Battle Royal)
Smackdown Tag Titles Match
RAW Tag Titles Match (Probably involve 4 teams)
That could lead to 12 matches.

[sniktawt]

Expect one of those 12 matches to be on Heat Prior to the actual PPV.
The WWE is famous for saying a match will be on the PPV then at the last second knock it back to Heat.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by DangerMouse
I've been watching Pro Wrestling since before there was a WWF.

A few observations on the current state of Wrestling.

Guys like HHH killed WCW and are hurting the WWE. I seriously hope for the betterment for Pro-Wrsetling and its entertainment value, he gets some sort of injury that prevents him from wrestling again. Then Vince hopefully will realize that no man should have that much push in the WWE.

A triple threat match between HHH, HBK, and Benoit is about the dumbest idea for a Wrestle Mania event on the face of the planet.

Wrestle Mania is about 1 on 1 match ups. Save the "gimic" matches for a lesser pay per view.

Hey Vince, do what you can to retain Goldberg, then switch him to SmackDown.

Then take Angle or another top Face from SmackDown and move them over to Raw. Then again, it won't make any difference, HHH would just hold down that character anyway.

Speaking of wrestlers being "held down", give RVD a World Title run already.

The longer HHH stays champion, the more I miss the days of wrestling alternative like WCW.

When WCW pulled s*it like this, I could watch WWF.

The only thing I can do now is turn my TV Off.

I agree, a Triple Threat Match for the Main Event when it was supposed to be a one on one match between HHH and Benoit is lame and isn't it enough that McMahon is charging $49.95 for this years WM XX and our main event gets reduced to this cause HBK couldn't let someone else have a run at the belt, someone DIFFERENT for a change??? For crying out loud, we've seen HHH vs HBK for what?? the last 3 pay per views?? Come on already..

However, it is also nice to see Lesnar drop the belt even briefly and let someone else have a push at it... The only thing so far that look worth shelling out 50 bucks is seeing the old Undertaker gimmick once again before he retires.. Very cool promo on RAW last night with the rain falling on Kanes head.. Next week, they should have the lights go out and when they come back on, there's a Raven sitting on the ring post staring at Kane.. How cool would that be???

[sniktawt]

Why is everyone knocking the Triple threat match ?

This is a Milestone Wrestlemania, Shawn Michaels Deserves to be in the main Event,He is still a draw and having him in that match will make it so much better. He will deliver as will Trips and Benoit.
Wrestlemania 2000 had a 4 way match as it's main event and that worked out fine.Don't knock it , it'll be the best match on the card.

[DangerMouse]

IamMrDJ-I saw an old episode of Saturday Night Live with the Rock hosting.

Guess who was the Champion clear back then?

HHH

The guy is holding down the development of younger wrestlers because he refuses to give up the belt and has done so for the better part of 5 years. Let me ask you a question. How long has HHH been involved with a main story line in WWE?

Answer? Discounting his time in rehab, he's been a part of EVERY major story line since before the WCW, WWF merger.

Its his ego.

Lesnar dropped the belt to Eddie.

HHH would NEVER drop the belt to someone like Eddie.

In fact the 3 way they are having at Wrestle Mania is designed to allow HHH to drop the belt without him losing face.

In fact, I really wouldn't doubt if HHH character has some sort of "injury" heading into WM so his character can have a bigger excuse and so he can "save face".

He's purposelyt holding onto the belt longer than he should becasue he's jealous of the success The Rock has received in Holloywood and the minimal inroads guys like The Undertaker, Hulk Hogan, Goldberg, and Steve Austin have made in the legit entertainment industry.

Problem is, HHH can't drive the company the way those mentioned were able to. He's a good heal, but he doesn't have "it". And unfortunately we won't see another "it" character until HHH is gone.

I'll make a prediction for ya.

RAW is going to have the Undertaker back in a storyline beginning with Wrestle Mania. It should be the main story line for at least the next 3 pay per views.

HHH will figure out a way to either be a part of it, or push his story angle over Undertaker's return.

Mark my words.

HHH is killing ratings and is the main reason why WWE's ratings have been going down.

[Rogue]

HHH is the bosses son-in-law, why do you think he's had the belt so long? I liked HHH until a few months before the whole Evolution thing started, now I can't stand him.

[slinger]

Originally posted by DangerMouse
IamMrDJ-I saw an old episode of Saturday Night Live with the Rock hosting.

Guess who was the Champion clear back then?

HHH

The guy is holding down the development of younger wrestlers because he refuses to give up the belt and has done so for the better part of 5 years. Let me ask you a question. How long has HHH been involved with a main story line in WWE?

Answer? Discounting his time in rehab, he's been a part of EVERY major story line since before the WCW, WWF merger.

Its his ego.

Lesnar dropped the belt to Eddie.

HHH would NEVER drop the belt to someone like Eddie.

HHH is killing ratings and is the main reason why WWE's ratings have been going down.

When HBK had the belt ratings actually went down. Same thing when Hogan had the belt. Both beat Triple H for it. So I guess in Vince's eyes HHH is the guy to have the belt. And the ratings haven't been going down. They've leveled off. Not as high as it was four years but a lot has happened some of which Vince can't control.

[DangerMouse]

I really wonder if you can actually say that HBK and Hogan were the cause of the ratings drop.

Neither one had the belt long enough to actually effect the ratings and both had story lines that included......(wanna guess?).....HHH.:eek: So in actuality any story line that has involved HHH, has hurt ratings.

See how this works?

Trips ego is hurting WWE, because he won't take a back seat and let someone else have the main story line.

Remember my prediction about the Undertaker.

If it looks like The Undertaker returning is going to overshadow HHH, Trips will make sure to insert his character in the middle of it and completely ruin the story line.

I give it 3 pay per views before that happens.

[Rogue]

Taker will most likely go back to Smackdown, Trips can't screw it up there. SD is in desperate need of talent and I think Taker would give them the boost they need.

[slinger]

Originally posted by DangerMouse
I really wonder if you can actually say that HBK and Hogan were the cause of the ratings drop.

Neither one had the belt long enough to actually effect the ratings and both had story lines that included......(wanna guess?).....HHH.:eek: So in actuality any story line that has involved HHH, has hurt ratings.

See how this works?

Trips ego is hurting WWE, because he won't take a back seat and let someone else have the main story line.

Remember my prediction about the Undertaker.

If it looks like The Undertaker returning is going to overshadow HHH, Trips will make sure to insert his character in the middle of it and completely ruin the story line.

I give it 3 pay per views before that happens.

Well each week HBK was champion (something that might lure fans not watching) they dropped and the RAW after Survivor Series wasn't high at all, actually was lower than the previous week's. And Hogan started his program Undertaker and Trips squashed Y2J again when the ratings didn't improve. I just remember that since Hogan and HBK would in my mind atleast keep and not lose viewers.

And HHH apparently was great in Blade III. Hopefully Hollywood comes calling. I do like the Evolution storyline but ever since he's comeback from his injury (the torn MCL since he's had lots recently) he's taken over (no Rock, Austin, WCW). I agree he's prevented the WWE from having a better product.

[BKB#1]

Well whether the new generation likes Hogan or not, he is the man that made wrestling what it is today and he is THE Icon when it comes to wrestling, so I don't think he was soley responsible for the ratings drop.. HHH being a part of the McMahon family does have it's perks as he is able to control the destiny of his character and decide if and when he'll win the belt back.. It's a shame Hogan will not be a part of WM XX and he should be, if for anything, to retire and go out right.. Hell, he doesn't care about that belt anymore and he knows that and that's what makes him a novelty act and it's great to see him put other wrestlers over....

[jbailey84]

i personally think that Hogan and The Undertaker are the icons of wrestling

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Well whether the new generation likes Hogan or not, he is the man that made wrestling what it is today and he is THE Icon when it comes to wrestling, so I don't think he was soley responsible for the ratings drop.. HHH being a part of the McMahon family does have it's perks as he is able to control the destiny of his character and decide if and when he'll win the belt back.. It's a shame Hogan will not be a part of WM XX and he should be, if for anything, to retire and go out right.. Hell, he doesn't care about that belt anymore and he knows that and that's what makes him a novelty act and it's great to see him put other wrestlers over....

Hogan has been offered a spot at WM XX but he has been told he can't work for any promotion for a month leading up the the event. HOgan is also still healing from Surgerya t the end of November adn recently said in an interview that his #1 priority right now is helping his daughter get a record contract.

Also I have been meaning to say that get over the $50.00 price tag of WM XX. WM has been $50 for the last few years this is not something new this year.

[stonefaced_1]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ

Also I have been meaning to say that get over the $50.00 price tag of WM XX. WM has been $50 for the last few years this is not something new this year.

Are you sure it's $50? I could swear I paid $40 last year. Anyway this year wrestlemania looks great on paper. Brock vs Goldberg, Eddie vs Angle, and the *rumored* triple threat ladder match. I think it will be definately worth $50 (or $40) this year.

[Inval1d]

plus the return of the Deadman Undertaker! :D

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by stonefaced_1
Are you sure it's $50? I could swear I paid $40 last year. Anyway this year wrestlemania looks great on paper. Brock vs Goldberg, Eddie vs Angle, and the *rumored* triple threat ladder match. I think it will be definately worth $50 (or $40) this year.

I am pretty sure I had to pay $50 for it last year. $50 is not that bad for this year. I mean come on it is a 5 hour PPV this year, it is well worth it.

[Inval1d]

I remember I paid $50 last year too. Because I kept saying that since this was the superbowl of wrestling it would be more than a regular PPV

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Hogan has been offered a spot at WM XX but he has been told he can't work for any promotion for a month leading up the the event. HOgan is also still healing from Surgerya t the end of November adn recently said in an interview that his #1 priority right now is helping his daughter get a record contract.

Also I have been meaning to say that get over the $50.00 price tag of WM XX. WM has been $50 for the last few years this is not something new this year.

No it hasn't.. It's been 34.95 when I've been watching it for god knows how long now..

[Kyle Katarn]

I'm sure WM19 was more than 34.95....but I can't remember how much. $40 sounds about right...

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
I'm sure WM19 was more than 34.95....but I can't remember how much. $40 sounds about right...

You know what?? your right.. WM 19 was 39.95 and I hope for 50 bucks they show some serious TNA..:D

[IamMrDJ]

I got this off of www.RajahWWF.com

It has some spoiler info related to WMXX so I am going to black it out.

The current main event at the April WWE Backlash PPV is set to be HHH vs Chris Benoit. With this, we can assume that Shawn Michaels won’t walk away from the 3-way match at WM XX with the title. As Backlash will be held in Edmonton, Alberta Canada, it’s very likely that HHH will enter the PPV as the champion only to lose the title to Benoit in his hometown. There is also rumor that HHH will be taking some time off following Backlash to work on a movie, thus making the above assumption more credible although things in wrestling can always change last minute.

[ZombieMan]

Its going to be 5 hours long this year? Is this going to be all matches??? I absolutely can't wait and can't wait to hear Vince's "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT" tonight on Raw.

[Inval1d]

i'm thinking it's either going to be him VS. Eric or Brock Vs. Goldberg.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Inval1d
i'm thinking it's either going to be him VS. Eric or Brock Vs. Goldberg.

That is what I was thinking about for the announcement as well

Also RajahWWF.com has posted the tenative card as of right now for WMXX.

The tentative Wrestlemania XX lineup looks as follows:
Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels
Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle
Undertaker vs. Kane
Rock & Mick Foley vs. Randy Orton & a partner
Big Show vs. John Cena
Chris Jericho vs. Christian
Stacy Keibler & Jackie Gayda vs. Torrie Wilson & Sable.

That is only 8 matches as of right now and we still have the Cruiserweight battle royal and both sets of Tag Titles. If one match does get bumped to HEat I think it will be the SD! titles because if the match is anything like the No Way Out match it will be boring.

[Inval1d]

Stacy Keibler & Jackie Gayda vs. Torrie Wilson & Sable
Taker VS. Kane
brock VS. Goldberg w/ Special Ref. Stone Cold

Announced By Vince!

Lesnar Attacked Austin. That was crazy.

[IamMrDJ]

I ahd a feeling Austin would be the Ref, he is going to cost Goldberg the match and that will be the last we see of Bill.

[Inval1d]

that's what i'm thinking also.

[slinger]

Remember the night Austin walked out, he was supposed to wrestle Lesner and lose. Which he had no problem but he thought there should be some build up to it. That was the last straw.

[IamMrDJ]

Just got this off of RajahWWF.com


Posted by: Rajah on 2/24/2004

- Shawn Michaels suffered a torn ACL either in his RAW match with Randy Orton a couple weeks ago or against Ric Flair in Japan. However, he plans to work through the injury since he is to play a major role at Wrestlemania XX. The latest is that he will continue to work but wear a knee brace to protect the injury and prevent it from getting worse.



Well it sure shows how tough HBK is. He put on a great match last week with a Torn ACL and will definetly put on one hell of a show at WMXX.

[jbailey84]

man that would be so awesome to see stone cold do the stunner to goldberg and have brock win.