Go WWE!

[2dman27]

there is an article about her in the recent raw magazine i think its still on saleit has kevin nash on the cover.

[IamMrDJ]

Ok new question what is your favorite movie w/ a wreslter in it. It does not have to be a big part for the wrestler it can be a small part. For example Big Show in Jingle All the Way.

[thebtskink]

Suburban Commando, baby, w/ Hulk Hogan.

or They Live, w/ Rowdy Roddy Piper

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by thebtskink
Suburban Commando, baby, w/ Hulk Hogan.

or They Live, w/ Rowdy Roddy Piper

A much better Hogan movie. His wrst has to be 3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain. That movie was horrible and it was filmed at Elitches near me so I got to be an extra in it. The movie was an absolute waste of film though.

[LegolasIsntSexy]

ahh whats happened the wwe used to be so cool, goddamn. i still watch it and keep up with backstage happenings. they need to get hhh to stop holding people down and fire goldberg.

[Kyle Katarn]

Highlander: Endgame, with Edge! :applaud:

[IamMrDJ]

No Holds Barred is still one of my favorite Wrestling Based movies w/ Hogan and Zeus. Ready to Rumble was pretty funny to adn it had a bunch of wrestlers in that one as well

[Kenny McCall]

They need to bring back World Championship Wrestling and get rid of all those boring wrestlers.

[2dman27]

yeah less folly more molly maybe bishoff will turn raw into the new wcw after all he was molding it into wcws image

[jbailey84]

i don't think that they need to bring back wcw. it started to fail thats why it went out of business. but yeah bishoff is slowly molding Raw into wcw.

[IamMrDJ]

They seriously need to stop letting Eric guide Raw because he was the one along w/ Vince Russo that turned WCW into a has-been program. I am glad the Foley is back because he is a fan favorite and draws people in. Goldberg has been ok to watch but he is not showing the talent he did when he first showed up in WCW. Ther eis a rumor that Foley might replace Goldberg at SummerSlam against Triple H. I would want to watch that match more then Goldberg and Triple H because Foley and H have always given us stellar matches adn that is something that SummerSlam would need. Nash since coming back has been performing on a lackluster level. I was excited at first because he is Big Daddy Disel and I wanted him to go back to has @ss kicking days. He hasn't gone back to those days and is now more stiff then I have ever seen him and he does not like to sell other people's moves. Foley on the other hand still plays the part of a professional wrestler on all levels. He still knows how to hand out punishment and take it. It was more exciting watching Foley and Triple H and Bad Blood then H and Nash. I still think that Foley can handle a solid matcha dn I hope that he gets to try because I am tired of these past WCW big-men wrestling for the Title and putting on a poor and boring show.

[Kyle Katarn]

Hardcore tribute to Foley! :applaud:

[Kyle Katarn]

"...with all these great athletes....and Al Snow!" :funny:

[Tardumb]

Hell yeah haha...Foley's the man...

and I QUOTE! "whatever he said from Frosty the Snowman" haha!

[slinger]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
"...with all these great athletes....and Al Snow!" :funny:

That was pretty funny.

So Kane now has no mask. Or he unmasked himself, who knows if he will continue to wrestle without the mask. The thing is when he was unmasked before he always had hair in the front. The match wasn't very good but it did pick up at the end. Randy Orton better stay healthy. Already with the WMXX hype.

Foley vs HHH seems like it may happen @ SS.

[2dman27]

lately i just watch sunday night heat .at least on that show you don't have a lot of boring gab and soap opera .now if only they'd stop using theheat ep on a ppv sunday as an infomercial for the ppv. oh well maybe it won't happen in july since that one's a smackdownppv

WATCH OUT THERES A HURRICANE COMIN' THRU

[Kyle Katarn]

GAH! :eek:
http://www.wwe.com/images/splash/1227127
http://www.wwe.com/media/2003/06/24/1227130

[IamMrDJ]

Eventhough they are not related He really does look alot like Undertaker. I had to do a double-take to make sure it wasn't Undertaker's face. NOw it seems that Kane is gonna go on a mad-man rampage and have no friends and just enemies like RVD, which I think would make a good feud.

[jbailey84]

is kane balding?

[IamMrDJ]

I have a feeling that they cut his hair like that because with all his hair he would still look like Dr. Issac Yankem DDS.

[jbailey84]

yeah. lol i remember that gimmick. I still remember that match he had against Bret Hart at SummerSlam 90 something, when Bret's head got stuck between the ropes.

[Kyle Katarn]

From WWE.com :(

Since March 31, 2003, World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. (“WWE”) and Roderick Toombs, p/k/a “Roddy Piper”, have attempted to negotiate the terms of an arrangement for Roddy to appear on WWE programming through August of this year. The parties have been unable to reach a mutually acceptable agreement.
On Tuesday, June 24, Piper appeared on an HBO program and revealed disturbing facts about his own personal drug use. Piper stated that he used drugs for many years while working in professional wrestling and that he does not like the person that he becomes when he actively performs as a professional wrestler.

In view of WWE’s inability to reach agreement on a contract and to assist Piper from engaging in any self destructive behavior, the WWE is ending any further discussion with Piper regarding a contract.

The WWE sincerely hopes for Piper and his family that Roddy can find happiness.

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by jbailey84
yeah. lol i remember that gimmick. I still remember that match he had against Bret Hart at SummerSlam 90 something, when Bret's head got stuck between the ropes. It was Summerslam '95 if you were wondering.Very bad gimmick.I think the next time we see Kane he'll be fully bald.

[Wringlets]

What do you think Of Ultimo Dragon Joining WWE ?Do you Think he'll Flop ?

[sniktawt]

I dunno if he'll flop he may have one last big match in him against Rey, I think that's all they can ask for.

[IamMrDJ]

I think he has got some good matches it will all depend on the crowd reaction. I hope to see him at Vegeance next month at the Pepsi Center. I saw him once about 5-6 years ago and he is amazing to watch. I doubt they will have him face Rey at that Pay Per View, but maybe Matt Hardy for the winner to face Rey at SummerSlam. I will be interested to see Zach Gowen or Tenacious Z wrestle. I have read tat he is pretty good and what a way to show off your skills then against The Big Slow oh I mean the Big Show

[sniktawt]

I heard he is pretty good as well.The fact that the man does what he does with only one leg is amazing.Plus they added in Stephanie as eye candy so if he blows she can be there to stabalize the crowd.Pretty smart in my eyes.

[IamMrDJ]

http://www.rajahwwf.com/wwf/headlines/6184.shtml

I don't know why but I am glad the Piper is now gone for good from the WWE. His appearence at Wrestlemania was good but even then he looked like he was haning out w/ Jake "The Snake" Roberts. Now w/ his comments on Real Sports about how he doesn't like himself when wrestling he is finally gone. The only time that I liked watching Piper on Smackdown was when Tenacious Z premiered on Piper's Pit to help Mr. America. Since then I turn the chanel whenever he came on.

Hopefuly they can give Sean O'Haire a new gimmick now and push him more. I think that e has got the talent to be a big man going after a title if they only pay attention to him and help shape him.

I am just worried now about which former WWE superstar they are going to bring back now. I keep thinking that Ultimate Warrior wil show up any day and attempt to do his signature run to the ring and shake the ropes like crazy to pump up the crowd. I can then see him running to a corner of the ring and grabbing an oxygen tank because he is out of reathe already.

[Kyle Katarn]

Well, the ending of Raw sucked with another "HHH is invincible" win! But it was redeemed somewhat by Kane slamming Bisch off the stage!

Kane is shaved now, but he had no makeup....continuity anyone? :rolleyes:

[slinger]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Well, the ending of Raw sucked with another "HHH is invincible" win! But it was redeemed somewhat by Kane slamming Bisch off the stage!

Kane is shaved now, but he had no makeup....continuity anyone? :rolleyes:

Well it wasn't a total predictable ending. I figured Kane would come out, cost RVD the match and then start their feud. But Eric comes out puts in some great stipulations, RVD and HHH fight outside the entrance which had me thinking easier for Kane to come out but nope! And then Kane comes out and... chokeslams Eric.

[Kyle Katarn]

Hmmm...I had those predictions too...or RVD wins the title, then gets attacked by Kane! Especially after Eric tossed in the stipulations...

At SHH, they were thinking that some of the makeup was where the black around his eyes had started running.

[IamMrDJ]

So what did everyone think of Zach Gowen's first match in the WWE. He is pretty limber when he's only on one leg and he sure can pull off a shooting star press. Do you think that he will be around for awhile and do you think he will ever get a title. I can see him getting the Cruiserweight title someday he seem's small enough to qualify for the weight class.

[Kyle Katarn]

Was anyone else but me looking for Bret Hart to be the one who destroyed Dreamer and Rico last night? Ah well....

[slinger]

I would be so pissed off if that was the night Bret Hart returned. I had work and then could've watched the repeat on TSN but I didn't feel like it.

Bret Hart @ SummerSlam?

[HotBoy]

Here's something that I read on a wrestling website. According to Bret Hart's website, he NEVER recieved an apology from Shawn Michaels. Even though HBK said on RAW that he did apologize to Bret Hart for the screw job!!!

[Tardumb]

Bret Hart's the best.

...just wanted to add that.

[Kyle Katarn]

If HHH won't drop the belt, at least he's out of the limelight! Just on Heat during the Raw before last, and last Monday a 6 man dance and mini-scene backstage.

Pretty slick - Kane only THINKS he's a scarred freak. BUT how do they explain all the times he's been unmasked and the perps have been grossed out? (Vince and the Stooges a whiiiile back comes to mind...! )

[2dman27]

maybe they EXPECTED kane to be horribly disfigured and were thrown off by him NOT having facial scars

[Sub_zero3]

he's lazy puting the scars on

[Kyle Katarn]

I was IMPRESSED with the end of Raw last night! They wanna make Kane a monster, then having him put RVD's head through a light on the stage, destroying Arn Anderson, about 4 refs, and JERRY LAWLER ("Jer-RY! Jer-RY! Jer-RY!!!"), and tombstoning Linda on the entrance ramp is a good way to do it!

A little disappointed in HBK/Y2J II. I guess they save the "clean" matches (no interference" for PPVs!

[2dman27]

as i mentioned in an earlier post in this thread i wonder how wwe. heat will address this weeks SMACKDOWN ppv? run their regular format or go the "infomercial? rouite i think in this case the wwe's brand extension storyline which serves to create the ILLUSION of competition may backfire on them

[HotBoy]

My favorite part of RAW: HHH coming face-to-face with Goldberg!!!

I'm just sorry that Goldberg didn't spear HHH right then, and there!!!

[Rogue]

Rogue's Rating of Raw:

The Good- Hurricane, of course! :D That badass move Molly Holly hit to regain the title, Shane O'Mac- "Money, money, money!"...his music never fails to make me laugh, plus..he was looking pretty hot. Stone Cold..even though he's a wifebeater :mad:- he can still entertain, in my opinion. Rico! :funny: He cracks me up!! Kevin Nash- love the dude! Good to see him kickin' ass.

The Bad- Vince..blech! Can't stand him! Whatsupwith Kane? :( I loved Kane when he was the Big Red Machine and now..the chains and animal gimmick are just not cool. I've seen too many real animals (men) and I'm not impressed or enthused with this at all. Randy Orton this, Randy Orton that. Sorry, can't stand the little pissant.

The Ugly- Goldberg spitting. *gags* Kane's bald head, Test and Steiner- give it up already. Coach. *sheds a tear for Good Ol' JR* BOOMER SOONER.

Rogue's rating: 6/10. Not bad, could be interesting to see what happens between Goldberg and Evolution, where this Nash/HBK/Jericho thing is going and I'm glad Molly Holly regained the title.

[Colorado Cajun]

I don't really even watch anymore but I do try to catch Christian and Jericho and Hurricane and HBK if I can

I like Test!!

[2dman27]

molly's the womens champ again ?great now i really have a reason to watch raw

[slinger]

Watched a few PPV matches and and was satisfied, I haven't watched SD! since early May only been reading the recaps. Angle is champ again but as a face, oh well. They should trade some wrestlers after SummerSlam.

How could you hate Vince, he's the best heel.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by 2dman27
molly's the womens champ again ?great now i really have a reason to watch raw

Yeah, it was a fairly good match, too. It was a bit short, but with them cramming Trips and Goldberg and Kane into the end of the show..you knew it'd end up like that.

[obi wan jabroni]

Looks like Hunter may be out again. He suffered a groin injury in an "impromtu" match againt Goldberg at the end of Raw last week. He could be out a very long time. This could really screw up SummerSlam if he can't perform. I can see him working the match in pain but since he's most likely to job I doubt he'll work the match.

If he does work the match and job that should shut up all the HHH conspiracy theory people though.

[slinger]

Originally posted by obi wan jabroni
Looks like Hunter may be out again. He suffered a groin injury in an "impromtu" match againt Goldberg at the end of Raw last week. He could be out a very long time. This could really screw up SummerSlam if he can't perform. I can see him working the match in pain but since he's most likely to job I doubt he'll work the match.

If he does work the match and job that should shut up all the HHH conspiracy theory people though.

Solution: Bring the Elimination Chamber Back!

Trips, Goldberg, Flair, Jericho, Nash and RVD. Trips goes out early and even though it would be great if Jericho won, let Goldberg win. It's a nice headliner match, sticks RVD on the card 'cause I don't think he'll be on it, Jericho and Nash could continue on to the next PPV.

[sphericthor]

I must be the only person on Earth who didn't see the Elimination Chamber match and I'm not about to spend £20 on the DVD

[obi wan jabroni]

Originally posted by slinger
Solution: Bring the Elimination Chamber Back!

Trips, Goldberg, Flair, Jericho, Nash and RVD. Trips goes out early and even though it would be great if Jericho won, let Goldberg win. It's a nice headliner match, sticks RVD on the card 'cause I don't think he'll be on it, Jericho and Nash could continue on to the next PPV.

That would work. What they might want to do is have Goldberg start the match off and have him go through everyone and save Trips for the end. Then have him beat Hunter down for a five or ten minutes then pin him.
As much as I'd love to see Jericho win something like that. They really have to puch Goldberg and the elimation chamber would be a good way to go about it.

[slinger]

Originally posted by sphericthor
I must be the only person on Earth who didn't see the Elimination Chamber match and I'm not about to spend £20 on the DVD

Rent it.

[slinger]

Well 4 out of 6 ain't bad. Makes sense. They'll hold off HBK/Orton and Kane/Shane for The RAW Only PPV, Unforgiven.

[Kyle Katarn]

slinger, you're a fookin' brainiac at this stuff....when Austin started ticking off the names, I thought "hey, slinger was right!"

LMAO....."Ho-lee *.*.*.*....WASSUPWITDAT!!!!?" :funny:

[Rogue]

I did the exact same thing. I was like "damn, he was close!" Is anyone else getting as sick of this new Kane angle as I am? Okay, I love him when he was the Big Red Machine but now that he's shaved and everything and acting like a real *****..it's damn annoying.

Also, Jericho and Big Sexy in a hair match? Okay, it worked for Angle and Edge but I thought Jericho and Nash were above something like that. :rolleyes:

Er..Gail Kim? Wtf... Victoria, I can understand. But why Kim?

Raw pretty much blew, in my opinion. *sheds a tear for JR* Coach and Lawler have no chemistry and it's pretty boring. :(

[2dman27]

remember when trish footprinted gail's face in a yag team match?/ii think that might've triggered the new gail vs trish angle

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by slinger
Rent it.

I NEVER rent anything because I rented Blade a couple of years ago and I couldn't watch half of the movie due to scratches on the disk

[slinger]

Originally posted by sphericthor
I NEVER rent anything because I rented Blade a couple of years ago and I couldn't watch half of the movie due to scratches on the disk

Okay, just a suggestion. If I do rent I try to be the first one to rent the disc.

When they mentioned that it was going to be a DQ match now I thought well that might help Triple H but the EC would be a much better idea.

I like this Kane angle, much better than what they had Kane doing before. I was assuming the worse when Kane was unmasked but they've done a great job handling this, the only question what to do after the RVD and possibly the Shane matches.

And apparently Nash has a role in a movie but he would have to get a haircut hence the Hair vs Hair match.

[jbailey84]

Brock turns heel on SmAcKdOwn! thursday night

[HotBoy]

Er..Gail Kim? Wtf... Victoria, I can understand. But why Kim?

I think I know why, Rogue. The WWE wasn't too pleased with Gail Kim's perfomance, and the fact that she hasn't gotten over with the fans as well as the WWE anticipated(at least not as a face).That's why it was no surprise to the WWE that she lost the Women's Title to Molly Holly.

Now the angle may go like this: Gail didn't forget the Tag-Team match where Trish accidentally kicks her in the face, so her attack on Trish this past Monday is justifiable.

And having her turn heel this early in her career just might work out as well for her as it did for The Rock.

Bottom Line: WWE needs to bring back LITA!!!

[jbailey84]

they will once her neck is FULLY recovered

[Colorado Cajun]

I'm telling you guys it's all about NWA TNA now!! WWE blows so bad compared to them. Sure TNA is more of ECW type stuff but it's damn entertaining for the most part and better than WWE

[Rogue]

Originally posted by jbailey84
they will once her neck is FULLY recovered

In September and it can't come fast enough! I want her back soooo bad!

[HotBoy]

I've got a question about Gail Kim. A year, or 2 ago, WOW(Women Of Wrestling) had a wrestler that (now that I think about it) reminded me of Gail Kim.

My question is: Was Gail Kim in WOW before coming to the WWE?

[Rogue]

Gail Kim was Felina at one point in time, if memory serves me correct.

[HotBoy]

Thanks for the insight, Rogue.

[Kris Hodgson]

Yee Ha! I got tickets for a house show only 20 minutes from where I live. The WWE hasn't been here in 5 years. My seats are in the second row, right in front of the ring. You guys want me to smack Brock Lesner or anything?

[Kyle Katarn]

LMAO!!!! Rosey and Hurricane - that is some funney S.H.I.....er - well, you get the idea! :D

[slinger]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
I'm telling you guys it's all about NWA TNA now!! WWE blows so bad compared to them. Sure TNA is more of ECW type stuff but it's damn entertaining for the most part and better than WWE

I've watched maybe a dozen since it started, never really got into it and also I forget that it's on.

Any predictions on who's going to walk out as champ?

HHH does have the injury and held the belt since December.

Goldberg does few house shows so what would be the point of having a champ that only does RAW? Also the whole WCW thing, I think Trips would drop the title to Rodney Mack before he would drop it to Goldberg.

HBK has already won it, in the same type of match and is getting on in years. Most likely facing Orton at Unforgiven.

Nash already faced HHH in a Hell in a Cell and lost. Plus this isn't 1995. He wasn't lying in pain at the end of RAW.

Orton is a member of Evolution and hasn't been in the WWF that long. No monster push ala Lesner.

Jericho will go far, he has to make the other wrestlers (except Orton) look good. Beat Nash via the brassknucks, he too wasn't knocked down. He would be my pick but Vince will probably have Goldberg champ for a month and let him lose it at Unforgiven.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
Yee Ha! I got tickets for a house show only 20 minutes from where I live. The WWE hasn't been here in 5 years. My seats are in the second row, right in front of the ring. You guys want me to smack Brock Lesner or anything?

Give Taker a biiiiiiig hug for me!! :D

[Rogue]

Originally posted by slinger
I've watched maybe a dozen since it started, never really got into it and also I forget that it's on.

Any predictions on who's going to walk out as champ?

HHH does have the injury and held the belt since December.

Goldberg does few house shows so what would be the point of having a champ that only does RAW? Also the whole WCW thing, I think Trips would drop the title to Rodney Mack before he would drop it to Goldberg.

HBK has already won it, in the same type of match and is getting on in years. Most likely facing Orton at Unforgiven.

Nash already faced HHH in a Hell in a Cell and lost. Plus this isn't 1995. He wasn't lying in pain at the end of RAW.

Orton is a member of Evolution and hasn't been in the WWF that long. No monster push ala Lesner.

Jericho will go far, he has to make the other wrestlers (except Orton) look good. Beat Nash via the brassknucks, he too wasn't knocked down. He would be my pick but Vince will probably have Goldberg champ for a month and let him lose it at Unforgiven.

My money's on Nash or HBK..it just seems that they have something planned as far as those two are concerned. It's time for Trips to give it up and it seems like Evolution won't hold the title for a while after this. Demise of Evolution, perhaps? After all, why put Orton and Trips in a match for the title- in the same stable or not if it's for gold- they'd fight it out. Jericho's in a good position for it too. I think Goldberg is more of a diversion than anything.

If I had to pick- my top three would be Nash, HBK and Jericho. One of them.

Then again, I'm probably soooo wrong.

[slinger]

I think Evolution will stay around as long as Flair is around. Batista is practically healed, he just wants to make sure he doesn't re-injure himself and get rid of the ring rust, so add another member.

Evolution could hold all the gold. Flair/Batista as tag champs, Orton as the IntCon, and Trips with the World Title. It could all end at WMXX or whenever. I wouldn't mind seeing that. Remember back when Austin and HHH were together they held those belts.

[Kyle Katarn]

I don't know who it'll be, but I wish Jericho would come out the Champ.

*repeats unconvincingly to self "I can't afford the PPV...I won't buy the PPV...."*

[Rogue]

Gah..so many things I want to say and I can't figure out how to say them.

I really hope they don't hold all the gold. Christian is doing a good job as Intercontinental Champ right now. I don't care for him but he does know how to entertain. - Good match tonight between RVD and Christian till Kane had to come out.

Am I the only one sick of this Kane angle? I loved him when he was the Big Red Machine and he didn't do half bad when he was teamed with RVD. What's with the "he must be a bastard" mentality in the WWE?

As far as tag champs go- I'd love to see the Dudley Boyz as the next tag champs. I love watching them perform and they have great chemistry.

World title- I'd really love to see either Nash or HBK hold it. Even though HBK is getting up there, he's still a great wrestler, imo. He's damn popular and he knows how to entertain. After all, he's made it this far, hasn't he? I want to see Nash hold it..simply because HHH doesn't do anything for me right now. I lost interest in him when Evolution formed. The whole Nash-Trips "once were friends" is great and I'd love to see Nash win it just to spite Evolution and Trips.

On another note, this Hurricane/Rosey thing is cracking me up. :funny:

[Kyle Katarn]

I said it was some funny S.H.I....
-shut yo mouf!
But I'm just talkin' bout the Super Hero In Training! * cracked up when the cat mauled him! :lol:

[Rogue]

That was great..Hurricane's talking to the little girl..

"We have got to GO" :funny:

[slinger]

I'm enjoying this new Kane. But I hate the Eric/Linda love crap. RVD and Christian will probably start up and faceoff at Unforgiven. Kane does what he wants and just unloads the Tombstones. La Resistance has real heat it appears but I don't care for any angle their in since I'm not French nor American. So the Dudleys waving the flag doesn't do anything for me either.

Test and Steiner should drive off a cliff and let Stacy choose someone else.

I would love to see HBK win the title. I watched his little From the Vault and was hugely impressed. Nash is old and memory recalls that he is booed sometimes. Y2J chants are peppered throughout RAWs [even in the States] and he should turn face.

[Kyle Katarn]

Oh yeah....who was that punk with La Resistance?

[Kris Hodgson]

Jericho should definetly go face. I've gots to cheer on the hometown boy!

[Rogue]

Jericho cracks me up..I still say that he and Rock should have a "smack-talk off." I can't figure which one has the bigger mouth- and the bigger ego!

[slinger]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Oh yeah....who was that punk with La Resistance?

New member? He's probably a local wrestler if he isn't joining them.

[jbailey84]

i'm hoping that Jericho or Goldberg will win the title sunday. I really don't want Shawn Michaels to win it since he had won at the first Elimination Chamber match. Nash won't win it because he will be busy filming for "The Punisher" reasoning why he lost the hair vs hair match(his role required him to have shorter hair), and Randy Orton doesn't deserve it yet.

[Kyle Katarn]

Nash is in the Punisher?! Sweet! I knew he was doing a movie, didn't know which one. Hope he gets more than a "Thug # 768" role.

I love HBK, and would love to see him as champ again. But out of all the contenders, I feel that Jericho deserves it the most. Alas I must be realistic and figure that Goldberg will get the strap Sunday.

[slinger]

The buyrate for this years Vengeance ppv were far below expectations. This was the first SmackDown! exclusive ppv and was heavily built up with Vince McMahon going one on one with Zach Gowen, as well as the triple threat match for the WWE title. The preliminary numbers have the event doing about 225,000 buys, or a .42 buyrate. That would be the lowest WWE ppv buyrate since December 15, 1996, for “In Your House” headlined by Bret Hart & Sid.

I think that PPV was actually held here. IT's a shame it was a very low buyrate since it was entertaining PPV and better than all the bad PPVs that had a bigger buy rate in the past year.

[Kyle Katarn]

I predict that Goldberg wins. Tho rumor has it that it'll be HHH or Jericho! Unfortunately, I've also heard that house shows have HHH booked to defend his title...So I don;t know WHAT to think! :eek:

[jbailey84]

like the saying goes...Anything can happen in the WWE. but yeah i'm hoping Goldberg wins it. Im wondering how the top 4 Diva search thing is going to go. here are my predictions...

Undertaker beats A-Train

La Resistance retains the Tag Belts against the Dudleyz

Rhyno beats Eddie & Benoit to become new US Title champ!!!

Kane beats R...V...D

Shane beats Eric

Brock beats Angle to become new champ!!!

Orton will be eliminated first, then Nash, then Jericho, then Shawn, then HHH leaving your new World Champion...Goldberg!

no Intercontinental Title or Women's Title on the line?

[slinger]

Originally posted by jbailey84
like the saying goes...Anything can happen in the WWE. but yeah i'm hoping Goldberg wins it. Im wondering how the top 4 Diva search thing is going to go. here are my predictions...

Undertaker beats A-Train

La Resistance retains the Tag Belts against the Dudleyz

Rhyno beats Eddie & Benoit to become new US Title champ!!!

Kane beats R...V...D

Shane beats Eric

Brock beats Angle to become new champ!!!

Orton will be eliminated first, then Nash, then Jericho, then Shawn, then HHH leaving your new World Champion...Goldberg!

no Intercontinental Title or Women's Title on the line?

I'm going with Triple H taking the gold so he and Goldberg will then have a match at Unforgiven. Goldberg could get the Triple Finishing Moves that took out Kane last year.

Angle retains.

Yeah the booking department didn't do a great job for this year's SS. I'm looking forward to four matches: The US Title 4Way, Kane/RVD, Angle/Lesner and the EC. Shane vs Eric could be the darkhorse.

Hardy/Zach has been dropped for some reason. Hopefully the matches are longer now. The Elimination Chamber will last an hour for sure.

[jbailey84]

well looks like I went 4 for 7. thats not bad. I was 75% or so right.

Eddie won, Kurt won, and HHH won.

[slinger]

Most shocking and hillarious moment: Coach hitting Shane with a chair. No one saw that coming.

Very good PPV. Missed parts of the Angle/Lesner match due to me throwing up. HHH retains and the question is will he drop the belt at Unforgiven.

[Kyle Katarn]

http://raw.wwe.com/results/082503/images/splash1.jpg
daaaaaayum! :eek:

Will Kane go back under the mask now?

LMAO at Hurricane & Rosey yet again! :D

[slinger]

Well last night was the night to see if I should keep on watching WWE. I could stop watching for a month and that would be it I could go on but I liked some of the stuff I saw, for some reason I like Triple H now. Also I don't care for Goldberg but he's way over with the American fans. Maybe I'll call it quits after WMXX.

Just off the top of my head:

WWE Belt
Angle vs Benoit vs Eddie
Hardcore
Foley vs HHH
RAW HW Belt
Goldberg vs Lesner
Singles Match
The Rock vs John Cena
Fatal Fourway Elimination IC Title
Orton vs Christian vs RVD vs Booker T
US Title Ladder Match
HBK vs Y2J
Pink Slip Match
Kane vs Undertaker
Mystery Ex-Champion Returns
Bret Hart says goodbye
TLC RAW Tag Titles
Dudleys vs La Resistance vs Goldust/Storm vs Hardy/Moore
WWE Tag Titles
World's Greatest Tag Team vs Rhyno/Edge
Crusierweight Belt
Mysterio vs Kidman
Women's Title Six Pack Challenge
Trish vs Lita vs Molly vs Victoria vs Jazz vs Gail Kim
20 Man Intra-Brand Million Dollar Battle Royal
Everyone else like Big Show, A-Train, Test, Steiner, Nash, APA and also some past superstars.

Couldn't think of anything to do with Austin, Flair, Batista (maybe a tag match?) Vince, Eric, Shane could also fit in the crowd.

[Kyle Katarn]

HOLY @#$!! "Chestnuts roasting on an open fire" anyone??? :shock:

[Kyle Katarn]

They are NOT chanting "Goldberg" after a suicide move by HBK!!! :evil:

[Kyle Katarn]

Raw is doing a house show about 45 minutes from my house! :eek:

[brody27]

Used to like WWF. I grew out of it a long time ago.

[slinger]

In two weeks Smackdown will have an 1 Hour Iron Man Match for the title. Angle vs Lesner. I think this is the SD! that will be 90 minutes long due to another show on UPN.

[HotBoy]

Who saw WWE Confidential this weekend? There was a report on
Superstar Billy Graham, and the winner of the WWE Diva search:
her name is Jamie Koeppe(and believe me when I say this: she's got a butt that will make J.Lo jealous)!!!

[Kyle Katarn]

HmmmmmMMMMMMMM...! ;)

[sniktawt]

http://divasearch.wwe.com/jaime/images/01a.jpg

She's pretty hot IMO.

[Kyle Katarn]

http://divasearch.wwe.com/jaime/images/05a.jpg

http://divasearch.wwe.com/jaime/images/07.jpg
Mmmm...hmmmmm! :eek:

[sniktawt]

She has a nice Booty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is she gonna Wrestle or is she just Eye Candy ?

[Colorado Cajun]

nice tatt :D

[sniktawt]

It's all about strategically placing it.:D

[Colorado Cajun]

plus i have a tattoo fetish lol

she will be eyecandy until they can train her properly also I bet

[sniktawt]

Yeah like what they did with Trish.And look how well she turned out.

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
http://divasearch.wwe.com/jaime/images/05a.jpg

http://divasearch.wwe.com/jaime/images/07.jpg
Mmmm...hmmmmm! :eek:





(panting like a dog)!!!

[sniktawt]

Jackie Gayda

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/376075/JACKIEGAYDA.jpeg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/376075/JACKIEGAYDA1.jpeg

[Rogue]

She scares me!! :eek:


It's all about -

http://amy-net.org/pictures/babe5.jpg

I can't wait for her to come back! :applaud:

[sniktawt]

She's ****in' awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That woman can wear a thong like no other.:D

[Kris Hodgson]

She's too manish for me. I like my women feminine.

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by Rogue
She scares me!! :eek:


It's all about -

http://amy-net.org/pictures/babe5.jpg

I can't wait for her to come back! :applaud:
when she does I'll actually have to watch again;)

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
http://divasearch.wwe.com/jaime/images/05a.jpg

http://divasearch.wwe.com/jaime/images/07.jpg
Mmmm...hmmmmm! :eek:

Too much like a Dawn Marie/Terri cross. BLECH!

[Colorado Cajun]

what's wrong with Dawn Marie?

[IamMrDJ]

In my opinion absolutely nothing at all is wrong with Dawn Marie or Terri.

[slinger]

Not a fan of Terri

but Dawn Marie was a welcome with all the blondes. She's eye candy that will rot your eyes.

And that new diva is from Canada.

[Colorado Cajun]

plus Dawn can act really well if given the chance to. The WWE so missed the ball on her. They should've put her with Lance and Justin and remade the Impact Players. They would've been mad over

[Colorado Cajun]

Jericho and Christian so make Raw worth watching!!

They were hysterical along with Austin tonight

[Kyle Katarn]

Holy Geez! What just happened with Spike was NOT good! La Resistance tried to toss him from the ring through a table outside...Spike's feet got hung on the top rope, and he fell way short - first hitting his head on the edge of the table, then smack on the floor! :eek:

[Kyle Katarn]

.....And I almost wet my pants laughing at the State of Raw...especially when Jericho patted Austin on the shoulder and Austin stunned him! :lol:

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Holy Geez! What just happened with Spike was NOT good! La Resistance tried to toss him from the ring through a table outside...Spike's feet got hung on the top rope, and he fell way short - first hitting his head on the edge of the table, then smack on the floor! :eek:

Yeah that was brutal. I hope he's ok

[sniktawt]

Spike always lands funny but this time he lookeD ****ed!!!

One of these days those bumps will get the best of him.Great little Wrestler but he lets them bump him too much and it always gets botched.

Hope he's ok.

[Kyle Katarn]

Jer-RY! Jer-RY! Jer-RY!!!! :applaud:

(and Good Ol JR too! Knocked the taste outta Coach's mouth!)

[Kyle Katarn]

For the record - I think the mystery partners will be Flair and Orton, one in each corner, to screw Goldberg over!

[slinger]

Jericho looks like he can shift back into face mode. They better have a Christian/Jericho match. Good RAW, skipped some parts but the ending was good with Orton, Flair (predictable) and the cage being lowered (unpredictable).

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by Rogue
She scares me!! :eek:


It's all about -

http://amy-net.org/pictures/babe5.jpg

I can't wait for her to come back! :applaud: My prediction: She'll be back on RAW next week, to help Trish against both Molly Holly, and Gail Kim!!!

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by HotBoy
My prediction: She'll be back on RAW next week, to help Trish against both Molly Holly, and Gail Kim!!!

And you are right, Hotboy.
Lita looked great tonight.


Lita at the PPV in a tag match that will be great.

I say she turns on Trish.IMO.

[Rogue]

LITA'S BACKKKKKKKKKKKK!!! OMG!!! :applaud: THAT MADE MY NIGHT!! :grin: She looked really good! My favorite wrestler is back! :D :D

On a side note- JR mentioned Arkansas. :D AND Randy Orton got a *****slap and a side of fries from HBK!

[Rogue]

Yaaaaay! Lita and Trish vs. Molly Holly and Gail Kim! :)

[HotBoy]

Ladies, and gentlemen: THE HOTTEST WOMAN IN WRESTLING IS BACK :D :D!!!

[Rogue]

AMEN!!! I so wish I looked like Lita. :)

[IamMrDJ]

Now we just need to get Edge back in the ring for you Rouge

[Rogue]

You know..if Edge, Taker and Lita ever teamed up I think I'd die of happiness on the spot. :funny:

[IamMrDJ]

Well we will make sure they don't team up quite yet then Rouge

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Now we just need to get Edge back in the ring for you Rouge That might still be a long while from now!! I'd love to see him back, but on RAW, not SMACKDOWN.

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah we will have to wait until Wrestlemania for his return. They really need to trade some wrestlers back and forth between the two shows. It is getting a little boring seeing the same matches over and over again (i.e. Brock vs. Kurt. The first few matches were great but it is dying out now IMO)

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by sniktawt
And you are right, Hotboy.
Lita looked great tonight.


Lita at the PPV in a tag match that will be great.

I say she turns on Trish.IMO. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. Lita hasn't been in the ring in over a year, and she is so over as a face with the fans.

If she goes heel, it should happen over time with a build-up, but that's just my opinion.

Now, all the WWE needs to do to earn some more cool points with me is to get:

STING!!! :cool: :D ;)

[HotBoy]

Oh, and according to a pro-wrestling site that I was on, Booker T may be back in October, but it was said that Booker T will more than likely retire from wrestling, because of his injuries.

[sniktawt]

Do you watch NWA-TNA Hotboy, Sting appeared there in June and he looked pretty good.
Vince should snab him up, he'll be mint in the WWE.

And when I said she turns on Trish I didn't say it was at the PPV.I should have stated over time with a buildup.My bad.
She will turn.That's a given.Just don't know when.

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by Rogue
AMEN!!! I so wish I looked like Lita. :)

I heard you did;):D

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Yeah we will have to wait until Wrestlemania for his return. They really need to trade some wrestlers back and forth between the two shows. It is getting a little boring seeing the same matches over and over again (i.e. Brock vs. Kurt. The first few matches were great but it is dying out now IMO)

Agreed!!! Personally, I'd like to see Sheniqua on RAW. In my estimation, she's Chyna's successor, and if she went to RAW, it will give her better competition, and more exposure.

In fact, imagine Sheniqua vs. Jazz, or Lita, or Trish.

And by all means, we've got to see:

Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:

[sniktawt]

Oh please, Brock VS. Goldberg =:sleepy:

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Do you watch NWA-TNA Hotboy, Sting appeared there in June and he looked pretty good.
Vince should snab him up, he'll be mint in the WWE.

And when I said she turns on Trish I didn't say it was at the PPV.I should have stated over time with a buildup.My bad.
She will turn.That's a given.Just don't know when. I really haven't seen any of NWA-TNA, because their shows are all on PPV; but I heard that he was with them. And you're right, Vince would be a fool not to try to get him in the WWE.

Sting is to wrestling, is what KISS is to Rock and Roll!!!

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Oh please, Brock VS. Goldberg =:sleepy: Well, how about Goldberg vs. Kane??

You've got your classic "immovable-object-vs.-irresistable-force" senario in that match-up.

[IamMrDJ]

Sting has said in the past he is not interested in Joining WWE. As for the Brock vs. Goldberg I am not very interested in seeing that match. I would like to see Kurt vs. Triple H again. I also think that Kane vs. either Big Show or his "brother" Undertaker. Also imagine a RVD match against Rey Mysterio. Chris Benoit would be a good opponet for Jericho again. Yes most of these matches have happened before, but it has been a long time.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by sniktawt
I heard you did;):D

Shah! I'm nowhere near as beautiful as Lita.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Rogue
Shah! I'm nowhere near as beautiful as Lita.

I bet you would beat her in a beauty contest any day Rouge.

[Rogue]

Aww! :heart: At least the wrestling fans around here think I'm hot. :)

[IamMrDJ]

Hey I would think your hot even if I wasn't a wrestling fan. I bet Edge would find you hot as well

[IamMrDJ]

FYI Wrestling Fans, Mick Foley is the week-long guest host on Jimmy Kimmel this week.

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Sting has said in the past he is not interested in Joining WWE. As for the Brock vs. Goldberg I am not very interested in seeing that match. I would like to see Kurt vs. Triple H again. I also think that Kane vs. either Big Show or his "brother" Undertaker. Also imagine a RVD match against Rey Mysterio. Chris Benoit would be a good opponet for Jericho again. Yes most of these matches have happened before, but it has been a long time. I agree with you on the HHH vs. Kurt Angle match-up. That's always proved to be a perfect match-up.

Oh, one more thing: I was just on that pro-wrestling site that I mentioned earlier, and it said that Bautista may make his return at WWE Unforgiven.

[IamMrDJ]

I liked BAtista before he was injured and then re-injured by himself (sounds like a Brian Griese thing-Denver Broncos). I know that he was in Evolution before but I think he could be pretty good as a heel on his own. Evolution seems to be pretty good right now as a three-man team, a fourth member might be too much for them. It's been awhile since we have seen Batista in the ring but if he can stay healthy and get some good ring and mic skills going, he might make a good champion.

I think it might be interesting to see Batista run-in and attack Goldberg during the main event causing Triple H to lose the title. I don't see how Triple H can keep the title after this weekend. The next Raw PPV isn't until Survivor Series and with Trips getting married next month to Steph he won't have time to defend the belt and make appearences because I heard him and Steph are gonna take some time off for there Honeymoon.

[Colorado Cajun]

Crap the one thing I wanted to see and I had to be at a meeting. I'm glad Lita is back and may watch a bit more now

[Rogue]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
FYI Wrestling Fans, Mick Foley is the week-long guest host on Jimmy Kimmel this week.

Oh, I wish..OH, how I wish!!

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by HotBoy
Well, how about Goldberg vs. Kane??

You've got your classic "immovable-object-vs.-irresistable-force" senario in that match-up.

That will probably be the match up at Survivor Series.
That I wouldn't mind seeing.Kane still has " IT".

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ

I think it might be interesting to see Batista run-in and attack Goldberg during the main event causing Triple H to lose the title.

Explain how Batista attacking Goldberg will cause Trips to lose the title ?:confused:

[IamMrDJ]

They added a stipulation to the match that Trips can lose the title due to count-out and DQ.

[sniktawt]

The title will never change hands that way, It would be ridiculous.

I remember it happened back in 1993 to The Steiners when they lost the tag titles to The Quebecers under "Quebec Rules" but that is the tag belts and that was dumb as well.

If there is interference it will go unnoticed by the ref and it may be botched, ie-Batista may come down go to hit Goldberg then hit Trips by "Accident" then Goldberg, Hits all his moves, end of Trips.

[Rogue]

Or in Rogue's world, it'd be no interference- all out brawl, Goldberg beats the holy hell out of Trips :D

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by sniktawt
The title will never change hands that way, It would be ridiculous.

I remember it happened back in 1993 to The Steiners when they lost the tag titles to The Quebecers under "Quebec Rules" but that is the tag belts and that was dumb as well.

If there is interference it will go unnoticed by the ref and it may be botched, ie-Batista may come down go to hit Goldberg then hit Trips by "Accident" then Goldberg, Hits all his moves, end of Trips.

Youare right that the title would never change hands this way. These stipulations just mean we are more then likely to not have the same end result as we did at SummerSlam with Flair slipping Trips a sledgehammer.

[HotBoy]

I think Bautista may interfere in the HBK vs. Randy Orton match.

[sniktawt]

Very Likely.

your predictions are usually dead on.

Are you getting the PPV Sunday ?

Or through other means .LOL.
If you know what I mean.;)

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by HotBoy
I think Bautista may interfere in the HBK vs. Randy Orton match.

That could be a very good possibility Hotboy.

[Kyle Katarn]

Hoo-hah! Shawn slapped the living p!ss out of Orton!!!! :applaud: :D

[IamMrDJ]

I like Orton's "Legend Killer" Angel but I can't wait to see HBK kick the S**t out of Orton on Sunday. HBK has always been one of my fav. wrestlers and if anyone else is a big fan check out his "From The Vault" DVD it is amazing.

[IamMrDJ]

Did anyone else watch the Iron MAtch on SmackDown! tonight? It was an awesome match especially for it not being a PPV match. I kinda knew the results already from aother wrestling site ut I just had to see the match. All the reviews I had read didn't do it any justice. If you didn't get to watch it you missed out. Try catcing Confidential or Velocity and they might show highlights. If you taped it check it out, you won't be disappointed.

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Did anyone else watch the Iron MAtch on SmackDown! tonight? It was an awesome match especially for it not being a PPV match. I kinda knew the results already from aother wrestling site ut I just had to see the match. All the reviews I had read didn't do it any justice. If you didn't get to watch it you missed out. Try catcing Confidential or Velocity and they might show highlights. If you taped it check it out, you won't be disappointed.

Saw the last 30 minutes. Tremendous match. Angle truly is one of the greatest ever. Sucks that he has to give up the belt but I guess they're going with a Undertaker/Lesner angle now. Both men were great but Angle impressed me more seeing how he used some new moves we haven't seen him do before and he's also older.

The Matches of the Year show is going to be filled with Anlge matches. Hopefully Benoit and Lesner work a program. As for the PPV this weekend, meh. The Triple Threat for sure I'll watch, Kane/Shane should be interesting and the Title match I guess since we finally see HHH lose.Oh and HBK and Orton.

TSN.ca did an article on the 5 month long fued between Test and Stiener on how the characters haven't changed and all the matches are the same, yet everyone else on RAW has evolved.

[HotBoy]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Very Likely.

your predictions are usually dead on.

Are you getting the PPV Sunday ?

Or through other means .LOL.
If you know what I mean.;) More than likely, I will.

[sniktawt]

Just seen the Big Show Demoted to Velocity , They try to make him save face by beating 2 jobbers.
What a waste of time he is.
How the mighty have fallen.

[2dman27]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
LMAO!!!! Rosey and Hurricane - that is some funney S.H.I.....er - well, you get the idea! :D we sure do one question tho i've seen some bits where hurricane addresses rosey as"ROSEVELT" instead of rosey is rosevelt supposed to be rosey's superhero codename or what?

[sniktawt]

Hmm, U may be right.lol.

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Just seen the Big Show Demoted to Velocity , They try to make him save face by beating 2 jobbers.
What a waste of time he is.
How the mighty have fallen.

If they do anything like that to Taker, then I'll stop watching

[IamMrDJ]

I don't think they would ever do anything like that to Undertaker. He is too much of a draw and fan-favorite. Big Show has had problems over the apst couple years. He got legit heat when he smashed Rey Jr. into the ring-post while he was on the stretcher. Big Show was brought in too fast I think kinda like NWO was, and he has never had a strong rythm(sp?).

[sniktawt]

Yeah when they brought him in he was a big Fish in WCW because WCW was a little pond.When he hit the Big Time Or "BIG SHOW" if you will he became a Little Fish in a Big pond and I don't think he was ready for that mentally.While The WWE has mishandled him on numerous occassions I think it downright impossible that he will ever get a good program and ever get over.Having Velocity matches seems to be what he'll be doing for the remainder of his WWE run.
I think If he was brought up by the WWE training system and not The WCW Power Plant he may have been used more properly, The WWE would have gave him the proper time in the "FARM" system to learn the proper basics of the business.Instead WCW had him , as "THE GIANT" on TV weeks after Training and winning their world Title.Of course this would make any man think they are hot **** and thus causing him to have a swelled head and believe he is better than he actually is.Things were given to him too fast and when that happens and it's taken from you it does hurt and it will cause people to become frustrated and do stupid things. I think that's the root of his personal Demons.

It's a shame really, because he was funny when he did the dressing up as Wrestlers Gimmick.When he did Hogan that was priceless.

Remember when they first brought him in he was just "Paul Wight" (his real name ) for awhile then he became "THE BIG NASTY" PAUL WIGHT, then they finally settled on "THE BIG SHOW" which is what they used to call it when someone got hired by The WWF,( "They made it to the... "BIG SHOW".)
Later in his career he went back to the Big Nasty name as a nick when he called himself "THE BIG NASTY BASTARD"LOL.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Yeah when they brought him in he was a big Fish in WCW because WCW was a little pond.When he hit the Big Time Or "BIG SHOW" if you will he became a Little Fish in a Big pond and I don't think he was ready for that mentally.While The WWE has mishandled him on numerous occassions I think it downright impossible that he will ever get a good program and ever get over.Having Velocity matches seems to be what he'll be doing for the remainder of his WWE run.
I think If he was brought up by the WWE training system and not The WCW Power Plant he may have been used more properly, The WWE would have gave him the proper time in the "FARM" system to learn the proper basics of the business.Instead WCW had him , as "THE GIANT" on TV weeks after Training and winning their world Title.Of course this would make any man think they are hot **** and thus causing him to have a swelled head and believe he is better than he actually is.Things were given to him too fast and when that happens and it's taken from you it does hurt and it will cause people to become frustrated and do stupid things. I think that's the root of his personal Demons.

It's a shame really, because he was funny when he did the dressing up as Wrestlers Gimmick.When he did Hogan that was priceless.

Remember when they first brought him in he was just "Paul Wight" (his real name ) for awhile then he became "THE BIG NASTY" PAUL WIGHT, then they finally settled on "THE BIG SHOW" which is what they used to call it when someone got hired by The WWF,( "They made it to the... "BIG SHOW".)
Later in his career he went back to the Big Nasty name as a nick when he called himself "THE BIG NASTY BASTARD"LOL.

One reason he got pushed so fast in WCW was because he was Hogan's friend. I think that if he was trained at Ohio Valley instead of the Power PLant he would have a better head on his shoulders which would make him a better wrestler. They have him switching back and forth too much between face and heel. They give him a new angle and then they end it before it can take off. One of my favorite Big Show moments was when he helped Austin bring down the Titan Trona dn Austin walked through it. That was hilarious.

One thing that would possibly help him would be if he kept his weight fron Flucuating(sp?). It is jumping up and down too much. He has gained so much weight since he first made his appearence. They have pulled him off the air before for him to lose weight and when he comes back he looks great, but soon after he has gained the weight back and some more. I think that you are right about his Personal Demons affecting him. He needs to take a look at himself and realize that he needs to figure out a game plan and stick to it or else he will be wrestling on Velocity for years to come or possibly be pulled completely off of the air.

[sniktawt]

*Spoilers ahead*



*GRUMBLES*

Damn Dudleys win the belts again!!!

I wonder if Conway is ok, that was a nasty bump ala Spike that he took.

-UNFORGIVEN RESULTS-

-Heat Match-Maven Pinned Stevie "Night Heat" Richards.

-The Dudley Boys win the WWE World Tag Team Title from La Resistance & Rob Comway in a handicap Table Match.

-Test Defeated Scott Steiner after Stacy accidently hit Steiner wiith a chair.Steiner becomes Test's Property in the feud that won't end.

-Randy Orton Defeated "HBK" Shawn Michaels

-Lita And Trish Stratus Defeated Molly Holly & GAIL KIM after Lita pinned Molly.
She looked Awesome.BTW.

-KANE defeated Shane McMahon In a last man standing match.
Shene Missing the high spot was brutal.
No one puts on the performances Shane does on PPV.This guy is great.

[slinger]

If there was ever a time to chant "Holy ****" it was when Shane went up and fell down and didn't move. I'm sure they're was a cushion underneath and that wasn't real wood. But still....

[sniktawt]

Damn Dudleys win the belts again!!!

I wonder if Conway is ok, that was a nasty bump ala Spike that he took.

-UNFORGIVEN RESULTS-

-Heat Match-Maven Pinned Stevie "Night Heat" Richards.

-The Dudley Boys win the WWE World Tag Team Title from La Resistance & Rob Comway in a handicap Table Match.

-Test Defeated Scott Steiner after Stacy accidently hit Steiner wiith a chair.Steiner becomes Test's Property in the feud that won't end.

-Randy Orton Defeated "HBK" Shawn Michaels

-Lita And Trish Stratus Defeated Molly Holly & GAIL KIM after Lita pinned Molly.
She looked Awesome.BTW.Lita's bloody mouth looked nasty.

-KANE defeated Shane McMahon In a last man standing match.
Shene Missing the high spot was brutal.
No one puts on the performances Shane does on PPV.This guy is great.

-Christian defeated RVD & Chris Jericho after Christian Pinned RVD IN A TRIPLE THREAT MATCH.I was disappointed by this , RVD seemed like he was in slow mo.Jericho as always, performed.

-COACH AND AL SNOW DEFEATED JIM ROSS & JERRY LAWLER after Chris Jericho interfered.As a result Coach And Snow become Raw commentators.I wonder how long they will drag this useless feud?

-Goldberg Defeated Triple H to win the WWE World Heavyweight Title.

[sniktawt]

Goldberg is going to Suck so bad as Champion.IMO.

Kane will probably be his new opponent.

[IamMrDJ]

Well they needed to get it off of Triple H he has had it all year long and he will be heading off on his HOneymoon at the end of October and since there is not another RAW PPV until the joint Survivor Series this was te best time. I don't see Goldbergs title run lasting that long. I do think that in order to get some good matches they need to start trading wrestlers (like I mentioned in a previous post). There are not that many big men Wrestlers on Raw that would give Goldberg a good let alone decent match. Kane does seem like the best opponent for Goldberg and I wouldn't mind seeing him et the belt again. He has gone too long without it.

[slinger]

Originally posted by sniktawt
*GRUMBLES*

-Christian defeated RVD & Chris Jericho after Christian Pinned RVD IN A TRIPLE THREAT MATCH.I was disappointed by this , RVD seemed like he was in slow mo.Jericho as always, performed.

-COACH AND AL SNOW DEFEATED JIM ROSS & JERRY LAWLER after Chris Jericho interfered.As a result Coach And Snow become Raw commentators.I wonder how long they will drag this useless feud?

-Goldberg Defeated Triple H to win the WWE World Heavyweight Title.

That Electric Chair/Power Bomb combo was something else though in the Triple Threat. You'll remember that.

Hopefully the annoucer situation ends tomorrow night. Austin will make things right.

Yeah hopefully Kane faces off against Goldberg and take the title away. Could Austin trade Jericho to SD! From the matches I watched very enjoyable PPV.

[sniktawt]

Besides Kane , Jericho is ready for another Run and the way they are touting Orton don't be surprised to see this kid getting some shots and maybe even winning it.

[sniktawt]

The electric chair powerbomb combo was brutal and cool.That's for sure.

[sniktawt]

It was a good PPV, The stand out match would have to be the Kane / Shane match due to the high spots but Lita got huge pops in her match as well.

[IamMrDJ]

Shane always seems to put on great matches. His match at SummerSlam was one of my favorites. He may be getting attention and pushes because his dad is the boss but he sure as hell knows how to put on a great match. I wish I would have been able to watch it tongiht, but I will get to see Survivor Series. I am just looking forward to Tuesday and getting the Vengeance DVD. I was at the show and was told by a few people that I was on TV so of course being the concieted person I am I wanna see myself.

I am really looking forward to tomorrow nights show but I gotta record it cause the Broncos are on Monday ngiht ad they are going to destroy the Raiders.

[sniktawt]

Cool let us know which part you appear at.That is so cool.And DVD's can be screen capped as well.U can put the pic on here.Sweet!!!

[IamMrDJ]

Oh I plan on it, I also planned on getting the picture printed up and even framing it (yes I can be a little full of myself at times) but hey it was a WWE PPV how cool is that.

[Rogue]

The PPV was decent, in my opinion.

The Orton/HBK match was a total let down. It could have been so much better. I'm ticked because it started out so good on the mat and then it just went to **** from there.

The women's tag match was great, Lita and Trish make a good team and Lita came back looking great. Molly and Kim make a good team too- they definitely have the heel mentality down.

The world title match was good ..but too short for my taste. They could have at least stretched it till the end of the show- it was over 15 minutes before the PPV went off the air then I just had to watch Goldberg pace around the ring- we get that every Monday night. It's a PPV for God's sakes- do something DIFFERENT.

Props to Shane O'Mac and Kane, even though the match was slow, it was probably my favorite of the night, after the ladies tag match.

The Tag Titles match was great- they got wood, alright. Then again, how long will they hold the titles? A week or two at the most?

Jericho and Austin don't do anything for my taste..Jericho's potential is going to waste yet again because of ****ty angles.

Unforgiven gets a 7/10 from me.

[sniktawt]

I also give it a 7/10

Y2j and austin should be good but will it be in the ring ?

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Oh I plan on it, I also planned on getting the picture printed up and even framing it (yes I can be a little full of myself at times) but hey it was a WWE PPV how cool is that.

Very cool Indeed!!!

And being proud and being full of yourself are too different things.

I think it's great if you frame it.It was a PPV.Something I will probably never see live.

[IamMrDJ]

Just having Y2J and Austin debate would be funny because they both come up with some off the wall comments, and the Rock should be the moderator (wishful thinking)

[sniktawt]

Yeah their feud will continue to be Verbal.
It's still great though.

[IamMrDJ]

RAW seems to be more storylines then wreslting now and why not have a comedic feud in the storylines to keep us all interested.

[sniktawt]

Yur right, at least these guys are great mic workers.

Do u think Austin has one match left in him.

[IamMrDJ]

I do but I have a feeling they wuld hold it off until Wrestlemania XX next March. That is there biggest PPV of the year and could be the biggest in there history. I just hope that the rumor about Foley returning for a match against HHH or Vince at Wrestlemania is true because Foley is jsut an amzing wrestler and I always loved watching him wrestle.

[sniktawt]

Having Foley fight Triple H would be great.
They have had great matches.
Like Trips or not his old matches were great and very Brutal.

[IamMrDJ]

Yeah, they would always put on a great fight. Also either of these two guys taking on the Rock was always a great match. The Rock and Sock connection was always fun to watch even when they broke up.

[IamMrDJ]

Ok got a trivia question here for anyone interested in answering it.

What is the shortest World Championship Match in WWE/WWF history? I mean a legit match and not the classic, I tap you, you fall down and I pin you. Who were the two wrestlers involved and what movie did the winner have a small role in. For a hint to the last part think Vanilla Ice.

[sniktawt]

DIESEL (KEVIN NASH) defeated MR. BOB BACKLUND On Nov. 26 1994.It was 8 seconds I believe.Also it should be noted that Backlund had just won the title 3 days earlier from Bret Hart at the Survivor Series.

Nash PLAYED SUPER SHREDDER IN TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES II-THE SECRET OF THE OOZE.He was still in WCW at the time as OZ.Then he became Vinnie Vegas.

[IamMrDJ]

Damn you are good. NO one has ever gotten the length of the match right or even the wrestlers. I think I might have met my equal when it comes to WWE Kowledge and a general passion for it.

[sniktawt]

I know wrestling.At least that's what I was told.I am obsessed if that's the word.
I have taped every RAW since Jan.1994.I missed some of the first season but I have some of them taped.
I have them all on seperate tapes in SP mode as well.So I have a lot.
Most of the matches I have will never be available on VHS or DVD so I will cherish those forever.

[IamMrDJ]

The one match that I wish I had on VHS or DVD is the match when Mick Foley won the WWF Title for the first time in his career. That match was awesome and I had it on tape atone time but with a brother who loves to record his TV shows grabbed a tape (which was marked DON'T TOUCH) and recorded over it.

[sniktawt]

It's on the "MICK FOLEY HARD KNOCKSAND CHEAP POPS dvd"

It's also on the Rock-People's Champ DVD.

[IamMrDJ]

Where on the Foley DVD is it. I have it and watched it a couple times and don't remember seeing it on there at all.

[slinger]

The Ric Flair DVD will be 3 discs!

[IamMrDJ]

I read about that. I also read that WWE is producing a 2-Disc DVD with the best Cage Matches in WWE History.

The matches on the DVD are gonna be.
-Bruno Sammartino vs. Ivan Koloff (1975)
-Bob Backlund vs. Pat Patterson (1979)
-Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko (1980)
-Backlund vs. Stan Hansen (1981)
-Backlund vs. Jimmy Snuka (1982)
-Snuka vs. Don Muraco (1983)
-Magnum T.A. vs. Tully Blanchard (1985)
-Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes (1986)
-Rock & Roll Express vs. Ole & Arn Anderson (1986)
-Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff (1987)
-Flair vs. Ron Garvin (1987)
-Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (1993)
-Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (1994)
-Bret Hart vs. Isaac Yankem (Kane) (1995)
-Triple H vs. Mankind (1997)
-Triple H vs. Rock (1999)
-Vince McMahon vs. Steve Austin (1999)
-Edge & Christian vs. Hardys (2000)
-Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (2001)
-Edge vs. Angle (2002)

I got the list of matches from RajahWWF.com

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Where on the Foley DVD is it. I have it and watched it a couple times and don't remember seeing it on there at all.

Sorry I have so many DVD's and I thought that was on that one.

I'm pretty sure it's shown on the rock DVD in clips.

But I could be wrong.:(

[Colorado Cajun]

Heh it's so not even worth watching now

Why is Crapberg champion? What has he done to deserve that?

**** I didn't even remember the ppv was on tonight and I used to be the biggest fan of all a few months ago

[sniktawt]

Like we said above Goldberg is going to suck as champ.
I have no idea what he's done to get that title.Funny thing was when he was flopping when he first came in they swore he would never get any gold but here it is he's champ...I have no idea why either.

[IamMrDJ]

Hey now let's all hope that we won't have to see GOldberg as champ but for only a couple months. Remember after next Months Smackdown PPV we will have three PPV's that will have Raw wrestlers. I doubt Vince wants to keep the belt on GOldberg for an extended period of time unless he puts on some great matches against Kane, Jericho or Booker T (when he returns)

[Kris Hodgson]

I'm one of the few people on this board that actually likes Goldberg. So I'm happy he's the champ. Actually I'd be happy no matter who the champ was as long as its NOT Triple H. That being said, I still thought the last match sucked. It was boring. Too short, no great moves. Just crap. I thought it was an average PPV.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
Actually I'd be happy no matter who the champ was as long as its NOT Triple H

Amen! It was waaaay past Trips time with the title. Goldberg isn't bad, he just doesn't do anything for me. Maybe now that he has the WWE Title, they'll develop him out of the "I big. I smash" mentality. I'll give him a chance if he does something. :)

[slinger]

Wrestlers on Smackdwon deserve to be World Champ more than him. The fans seem to love him now. Their reaction in the Elimination Chamber and last night. Maybe because they hate HHH so much and he seemed like a sure threat to beat him but I don't believe in the hype. I was watching last night seeing if he would injure HHH by accident. The thing about HHH is that he's injured all the time and that his matches are crap. Hell in a Cell was his last good match.

People complain that the title changes too many times on Smackdown. Since the the two titles were established we've had Triple H as champ for 12 months with HBK getting one month between that 12 month reign. Atleast on Smackdown the title matches have been so much better than the HHH Show. Part of that is his opponents (Stiener, Nash).

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by Rogue
Amen! It was waaaay past Trips time with the title. Goldberg isn't bad, he just doesn't do anything for me. Maybe now that he has the WWE Title, they'll develop him out of the "I big. I smash" mentality. I'll give him a chance if he does something. :)

They tried that when he first got there and it failed big time.Remember his first 2 months there before he got hurt for a bit.They tried to let him wrestle and we all know how bad it turned out.

Plus Goldberg's theme music should never have been tweaked with.

[Kyle Katarn]

Originally posted by slinger
The Ric Flair DVD will be 3 discs!

Holy crap - that'll cost a lot! :mad:

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Holy crap - that'll cost a lot! :mad:

I doubt it will cost no more the $25 or $30 at most.

[Colorado Cajun]

It's just Goldberg for his entire span has been nothing but the I big, I smash character. He can't do anything else. HHH was the best in the biz up until his last change. Now he's is annoying; but he's still entertaining. Jericho should be champion of Raw plain and simple. He busts ass in the ring and is the most entertaining man on that show

People who like Goldberg like him because of his oh I'm unbeatable, now you must fear me crap. Dude has like five moves. Five fn moves!!! **** Hurricane has a good 60 or so

[IamMrDJ]

I agree comepletely with you about Goldberg Cajun. He got so much press and hype because of his undefeated streak (eventhough he lost his first WCW match to Piper). HE does only have a few moves. I hope you are not saying Hurricane should be world champ??? I think that he would be good on SD where he could competefor the Light heavyweight title.

Jericho is a very hard working wrestler but so is Kane. Either of these two wrestlers would make a good world champ. I think they mainly gave it to Goldberg because they paid him to come in to the WWE and have such a great impact. I mean right away tey threw him in a feud with The Rock. After realizing that he wasn't gonna be as popular as they thought he would they were confised what to do with him. Having him face off against Triple H was there only option because Trips has worked a program with pretty much all the other Face big men. Also since he is getting married in a month they need to have a champion that will be on TV week after week leading into Survivor SeriesLike I have said before, he won't be champ for long.

[Colorado Cajun]

My ideas for Raw Champ

Jericho number 1
Kane number 2
RVD 3
Randy Orton after he and Flair and Batista turn on Trips and form a new faction 4

[sniktawt]

Randy Orton will win that title, He's being Mega pushed Big time.
Imo he isn't ready but the WWE doesn't seem to think.

[Colorado Cajun]

I only want him to win it in a good angle like him taking over the faction and turning Trips back face

[Rogue]

:funny:

Austin: C.L.B

Christian: Christian likes blondes!

Austin: No..creepy...little..bastard!

:lol: I love it!

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
I only want him to win it in a good angle like him taking over the faction and turning Trips back face

Like what the Rock Did to the nation back IN 1997-98.:D

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by sniktawt
Like what the Rock Did to the nation back IN 1997-98.:D

Pretty much lol:D

[IamMrDJ]

I just read this off of RajahWWF.com

"Edge did an interview with Armed Forces radio promoting the WWE European shows. He said that he expects to head back into action in six months and his check ups show that everything is going as planned and on the targeted timeline. He said that when he returns he will not be doing any TLC type stunts as he blames those matches for nearly ending his career and he now plans on shortening his career."

Sorry he won't be going through anymore tables Rogue

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
I just read this off of RajahWWF.com

"Edge did an interview with Armed Forces radio promoting the WWE European shows. He said that he expects to head back into action in six months and his check ups show that everything is going as planned and on the targeted timeline. He said that when he returns he will not be doing any TLC type stunts as he blames those matches for nearly ending his career and he now plans on shortening his career."

Sorry he won't be going through anymore tables Rogue

But would he have a career if it wasn't for those matches? If he wasn't injured I think it's safe to say he would've atleast had a PPV Title match sometime this year.

[IamMrDJ]

Your right Slinger but those atches are what got him noticed in the beginning. Without them he might have been another wrestler that came and went.

[Rogue]

Awww, that's really too bad. TLC matches, risky matches like that are Edge's career. I bet that boy will eat his words when he gets bored.

I give it 3 months before we see Edge in a TLC match- it's in his blood, he won't give them up. That's what he's built around, he couldn't just say "Well, **** it. No more TLC matches for me because they nearly ended my career." That's why his career is so interesting- the TLC matches made Edge. So, he's going to refuse to do anymore? Lita's doing moonsaults and high impact moves that snap her neck off the mat and put her body on the line- did she give up? No.

If Edge isn't the Edge of old, he'll lose the bigger part of his fan base. Then what?

[IamMrDJ]

I think that you are right Rogue. He has still got tll MArch wen e returns so maybe between now and then he will change his mind. If not he better change his mind by next years Summerslam. I hope that they bering him back to RAW, Edge vs. RVD would be a good match.

[Rogue]

Personally, I'd like to see Edge and Christian again..I'm getting tired of Christian with his present angle..Edge and Christian together again = :lol: ...WWE needs strong teams like that.

[Glordreen]

All I hope for is Austin vs Goldberg at WMXX

[jbailey84]

we all hope for that. i would still love to see Goldberg Vs Brock Lesnar

[slinger]

Originally posted by jbailey84
we all hope for that. i would still love to see Goldberg Vs Brock Lesnar

Brock vs Benoit would be a better match.

[jbailey84]

yeah that would be. i never thought of that match before. i'd still like to see which will probably never happen, Kurt Angle Vs Bret Hart. OMG that would be probably one of thee greatest matches ever!

[IamMrDJ]

JBailey you have got a point there. That match would be totally awesome. THat would be the prefect mtach to headline WM XX.

[Rogue]

Is anyone else planning on going to WMXX? My father, uncle, cousin and I are planning on going (it's just a matter of getting tickets now.)

[IamMrDJ]

Well Tickets go on sale on Saturday morning. IF you go to RajahWWF.com they talk about a special pre-order code tat can let you orer your tickets in advance. I don't plan on going but I will be ordering it because it is the day after my 22nd Birthday.

[slinger]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
JBailey you have got a point there. That match would be totally awesome. THat would be the prefect mtach to headline WM XX.

Bret Hart said on Off The Record that the one wrestler today that he would want to have a match (that he hasn't before) would be Kurt Angle. He said Chris Benoit is the best worker so he would feel the most safe with him.

[sniktawt]

Originally posted by Glordreen
All I hope for is Austin vs Goldberg at WMXX

Yeah so we can all :sleepy:

Sorry, Austin is a great worker when his opponent is good.Imo Goldberg sucks ,always has always will.I say by Wrestlemania he won't even be with the company.One can hope.;)

Originally posted by jbailey84
I'd still like to see which will probably never happen, Kurt Angle Vs Bret Hart. OMG that would be probably one of the greatest matches ever!

LOL, I can hear Kurt cutting his promo for that match, "Best There is Best there was, Best there ever will be...Well Whoopie Freakin' do, Did you win a Gold Medal?":D

[jbailey84]

originally posted by sniktawt LOL, I can hear Kurt cutting his promo for that match, "Best There is Best there was, Best there ever will be...Well Whoopie Freakin' do, Did you win a Gold Medal?" lol it would be exactly like that :D :applaud:

[IamMrDJ]

I picked up the Best of Raw Vol. 1 & 2 tongiht. Right now I am only an hour into it but it is pretty cool. It is great seeing some of my fav. Raw moments once again, like Austin filling Vince's Corvette w/ Cement.

Oh and I was watching the Vengeance DVD today and I saw myself but you can't see my face. You just see my signs and the clothes that I a wearing. I haven't finished it yet and am still looking for a better picof myself to post.

[sniktawt]

I have that Raw DVD.That is the best Dvd they ever did.IMO.
What till you see the Val Venis /Kaientai segment.LOL.

That was edited in Canada when it aired back in 1998.For good reason.;)

[IamMrDJ]

I got past that part I am on the extras now. The Venis art was great I remember seeing it when it origianly aired.

[sniktawt]

LOL.Kaientai Chop Val's weiner!!!!lol!!
Yeah On TSN in canada they panned the Crowd when they did that segment.
Whenever something nasty happens like for example when 3 Minute Warning splashed Mae and Moolah they Pan the crowd.It's awful.
We never get the full version sometimes.That's why seeing that stuff on the DVD was great.
I thought the Kaientai penis segment was an extra?
It's been awhile since I seen it so I guess I'm wrong but I thought it was.I own it but I haven't watched it in a long time.

That DVD is a bargain, Wal-Mart Had that and about 25 other selections for 5.99 back In January.I had bought it for 39.95 when it first came out.Pissed me off.
It's got hours worth of material on it.2 discs as well.I wonder why they didn't do Part 3-4 Or 5-6.

[IamMrDJ]

Not sure if anyone is a big fan of the WWE: Smackdown Videogame for the PS2. But, I was at IGN.com yesterday and waschecking out this years edition of Smackdown: Bring the Pain. There are two new matches added this year. They are a Bra and Panties match (finally) and the Elimination Chamber match. There are also a handful of WWE Legends on the game. Animal and HAwk of LOD, Ted Dibease and Niklia Volkof (sp?) are also on te game.

[sniktawt]

They added in the old skool guys...That's awesome!!!
Any others or is that it ?

[IamMrDJ]

HEre is the Current Roster and also the Legends Roster courtesy of http://ps2.ign.com/articles/436/436689p1.html

WWE Wrestlers
A-Train , Batista, Big Show, Booker T, Brock Lesnar, Bubba Ray Dudley, Charlie Haas, Chavo Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Christian, D-Von Dudley, Eddie Guerrero, Edge, Eric Bischoff, Goldberg, Goldust, Jazz, John Cena, Kane, Kevin Nash, Kurt Angle, Lance Storm, Lita, Matt Hardy, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Rhyno, Ric Flair, Rico, Rikishi, Rob Van Dam, Rodney Mack, Sable, Scott Steiner , Sean O'Haire, Shawn Michaels, Shelton Benjamin, Stacy Keibler, Stephanie McMahon, Steve Austin, Steven Richards, Tajiri, Test, The Hurricane, The Rock, Torrie Wilson, Triple H, Trish Stratus, Ultimo Dragon, Undertaker, Val Venis, Victoria, Vince McMahon

WWE Legends
Animal , George Steele, Hawk, Hillbilly Jim, Jimmy Snuka, Nikolai Volkoff, Roddy Piper, Sgt. Slaughter, Ted DiBiase, The Iron Sheik, The Undertaker

[jbailey84]

they put the Elimination Chamber on there? Sweet! i bet the doors will be locked playing the Bra & Panties Match :p :D

[IamMrDJ]

In the article it says that you will be able to break the Glass on the Chambers by throwing the wrestler into them. There are a couple of wrestlers I wish were on both the Current and LEgends Roster but overall this is looking to be the best one of the series to this point.

[sniktawt]

I'm surprised they used Piper despite all the **** recently.

No Ultimate Warrior Or Hogan? Unless I missed them.

They should include Demolition next time around.

Old skool Taker on there , That's ****in' sweet!!!

Sounds like a sweet game.I 'm not really into video games only the sports ones and this is up my alley big time!!!

I'm glad the WWE is starting to remember it's older Wrestlers.
Like that new Steel Cage DVD , That's packed with the old Skool matches.;)

[sniktawt]

Any hidden Wrestlers Like Funaki , Shannon Moore,Billy Kidman, ROSEY,La Resistance... they missed them.