Go WWE!

[ChaCho]

niceeee pics j, real nice.
about Taker, damn that would be an awsome return. But I still want him to bury edge alive.
nice about the supplemental draft

[RedVader 2004]

I think brothers of distruction heels vs Batista and Cena would be cool. I wonder if Edge will ever not be a heel .

[Starwars411]

Here's the full list of superstars that were drafted:

Talent To Raw
1) Rey Mysterio
2) CM Punk
3) Michael Cole
4) Batista
5) Kane
6) Jamie Noble
7) Deuce
8) Super Crazy
9) Chuck Palumbo
10) Matt Striker
11) Kofi Kingston

Talent To SmackDown:
1) Jeff Hardy
2) Jim Ross
3) Umaga
4) Mr. Kennedy
5) Triple H
6) Trevor Murdoch
7) Big Daddy V
8) D.H. Smith
9) Brian Kendrick
10) Maria
11) Carlito

Talent To ECW:
1) Matt Hardy
2) Mark Henry
3) Hornswoggle
4) Finlay

[jbailey84]

Super Crazy also went to ECW.

I cant believe they seperated Carlito and Santino

[ZombieMan]

Here are my thoughts on the supplimental draft...

1) Mark Henry drafted to ECW (I think that is a good move.)

2) Jamie Noble drafted to Raw (I personally liked him on Smackdown. I think its a bad move.)

3) Trevor Murdoch drafted to SmackDown (GREAT IDEA...PERIOD!!!)

4) Big Daddy V drafted to SmackDown (Not a bad idea, but I did like him on ECW.)

5) Deuce drafted to Raw (I don't like the idea. I would have kept him on Smackdown.)

6) "The Canadian Bulldog" D.H. Smith drafted to SmackDown (Nice idea!!!)

7) Hornswoggle drafted to ECW (Hate the idea. I would have liked to see him and Finlay on Raw instead.)

8) Super Crazy drafted to ECW (VERY GOOD IDEA!!)

9) Chuck Palumbo drafted to Raw (Ehhh, he won't be used. But, I like him a lot.)

10) Brian Kendrick drafted to SmackDown (STUPID idea to seperate London from him. They were a great tag team.)

11) Matt Striker drafted to Raw (Yuck, let him go. Can't stand him.)

12) Maria drafted to SmackDown (Not a bad idea..)

13) Shelton Benjamin drafted to SmackDown (Good idea...)

14) Finlay drafted to ECW (BOOOOO, bad idea IMHO...)

15) Carlito drafted to SmackDown (Stupid...Though he will probably get more TV time.)

16) Layla drafted to Raw (Who cares???)

17) Kofi Kingston drafted to Raw (YESSSS, this is the draft that I wanted to see!!! Well, actually just to move him away from ECW. Actually, it might have been a better idea to move him to Smackdown.)

[saveus1011]

So we're labeling the draft as a success then?

[Knerys]

It's only a success if good stories come out of it. :p

[ChaCho]

It was okay. Some moves sucked and some were good. I kind of agreed with Zombie's opinion.
What we have to realize is that any drafts made to ECW are also to SmacKDown, they share their superstars right? I still think RAW got the better end of the deal.

[RedVader 2004]

Does anyone watch TNA. I like to mix up my wrestling experiance with TNA old wcw which is what it looks like.
Wish Sting would have came too the wwe. Hew ould bea champion and have acolades like Flair.

[chewie]

I watch it occasionaly.

[ChaCho]

Same, but very occasionally. Last time I saw it, Booker T joined TNA

[RedVader 2004]

He was fighting Big Sexy broken hip Kevin Nash tonight.

[ChaCho]

Kevin Nash is still wrestling? How old is he now?

[jbailey84]

late 40's i believe

well, i gave in and i bought a ticket for Night of Champions in Dallas. i live in San Antonio so its a 4 & a half hour drive.

but i'll be RINGSIDE!! Section 18, Row C AKA ROW 3!! im on the side where the main camera is, so hopefully the wrestlers will fight on that side so one of the cameras will be aimed towards me :D

[Starwars411]

Nash is 48, he'll be 49 on July 8th.

[chewie]

late 40's i believe

well, i gave in and i bought a ticket for Night of Champions in Dallas. i live in San Antonio so its a 4 & a half hour drive.

but i'll be RINGSIDE!! Section 18, Row C AKA ROW 3!! im on the side where the main camera is, so hopefully the wrestlers will fight on that side so one of the cameras will be aimed towards me :D

You'll have to let us know what you're wearing that day.

[ChaCho]

Old fag

Yeah you have to tell us

[chewie]

Nash is still pretty good on the mic though.

[jbailey84]

You'll have to let us know what you're wearing that day. no doubt. i'll take a pic and post it before i leave ;) I CANT WAIT!! :D

[gar0781]

Does anyone watch TNA. I like to mix up my wrestling experiance with TNA old wcw which is what it looks like.
Wish Sting would have came too the wwe. Hew ould bea champion and have acolades like Flair.

I wish Sting would have came to the WWE also, at least for a year or so like Goldberg. I remember he and Vince Mcmahon came very close to finalizing a deal for him to make a surprise appearance at Wrestlemania 19 in 2003 but it fell apart at the last minute.

[ChaCho]

Nash is still pretty good on the mic though.

He is, but he still fronts like he can wrestle.

[jbailey84]

my picks for Night Of Champions

WWE Champion Triple H vs. John Cena

World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs Batista

ECW Champion Kane vs. Big Show vs. Mark Henry

World Tag Team Champions Hardcore Holly & Cody Rhodes vs. Ted DiBiase & ???

WWE Tag Team Champions John Morrison & The Miz vs. Finlay & Hornswoggle

United States Champion Matt Hardy vs. Chavo Guerrero

WWE Women's Champion Mickie James vs. Katie Lea Burchill

and whoever Jericho faces for the IC Title, I say his opponent will win.

god i cant wait!!

[chewie]

WWE Champion Triple H vs. John Cena

World Heavyweight Champion Edge vs Batista

ECW Champion Kane vs. Big Show vs. Mark Henry

World Tag Team Champions Hardcore Holly & Cody Rhodes vs. Ted DiBiase & ???

WWE Tag Team Champions John Morrison & The Miz vs. Finlay & Hornswoggle

United States Champion Matt Hardy vs. Chavo Guerrero

WWE Women's Champion Mickie James vs. Katie Lea Burchill

Intercontinental Champion Chris Jericho vs. ??? If the opponet is from Smackdown or ECW, then Jericho will win.

[jbailey84]

well im on my way up to Dallas.

i'll be wearing exactly what im wearing in the picture meeting Mr. Kennedy.

hopefully i show up on tv :D

[ChaCho]

I didnt see you.

[chewie]

Interesting having both champions on the same show now.

[jbailey84]

the guy behind me had his son proped on his shoulder so everytime i would stand up and turn around, there he was :mad:

i get my film done tomorrow(today) so i'll post some

[ChaCho]

Nice. I think I did see some kid on a guy's shoulder. I wonder what is gonna happen now that both titles are on SmackDown. Would they bring the Undisputed Title back?

[chewie]

Nice. I think I did see some kid on a guy's shoulder. I wonder what is gonna happen now that both titles are on SmackDown. Would they bring the Undisputed Title back?

Not unless they were getting rid of the split rosters.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I am betting that CM Punk might turn in his "Money In The Bank" on Raw, and win Trips' title. That way, the championship would be back on Raw.

[ChaCho]

That would just suck. They won't make HHH lose to Cena but yes to Punk? Punk is really good and all but I don't know, he should just hold on to it.

[chewie]

That would be awesome because a title would change hands on Raw which never happens.

[jbailey84]

i was hoping Punk was going to cash it in last night with Trips leg hurting. would have been perfect.

heres a couple of pics i took from my cell. im getting my film developed right now.

My view :D
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo22/1a/44/e4667b91a17c.jpeg

Cena Vs HHH
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo18/27/fd/a813dcc9b85e.jpeg

HHH wins!!
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo30/99/aa/08fb32900271.jpeg

my chair I got to keep :) :D
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo23/3c/81/8ece615811f2.jpeg

[RedVader 2004]

Just not right for Raw not to have a champion. Then again where JR goes so maybe teh gold. My guess is HHH will defect back to Raw he is married to Vince Daughter or The Undertaker will appear and a mystery challenger in next pay per view but have a Raw brand.
I wonder though when will Raw get a GM.

[jbailey84]

or mabye CM Punk will go to SD saying that RAW needs a champ and he's going to win it

[ZombieMan]

I have been hearing that Trips asked to go to Smackdown. Due to the fact that Stephanie is about to pop out another child, and he wants more time with his family. With the Smackdown schedule, he will get just that. Also, GLAD to see Kofi Kingston with that Intercontinental title! He will bring some good matches to Raw, for sure. :)

[Starwars411]

HHH will be on Smackdown for awhile because they already filmed commercials with him promoting Smackdown when it moves to the MyNetworkTV (something like that) later this year.

[jbailey84]

Lillian
http://a193.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/101/l_2da38fa3974e38a78fb3194b90ea8bb8.jpg

Taz
http://a844.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_b2ddfeae0cc73fa7c7a806fbd8aede13.jpg

Night Of Champions Pyro
http://a980.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/42/l_ea70352e48537b8bcfd69486fa1da13b.jpg

Finlay & Hornswoggle Vs Miz & Morrison
http://a470.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/115/l_8ab68381a2648ff41b48e1e4534ecf15.jpg

Chavo Vs Matt Hardy
http://a621.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_f36ebfa6ea920583fec14b150c86acac.jpg

Kane's Inferno
http://a125.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/4/l_f98a81d7651225fcb34fcbfb993a71a4.jpg

Mark Henry Vs Big Show Vs Kane
http://a238.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/40/l_e42ab2e5f0f7374ebaafa9a0a8cc7da5.jpg

[jbailey84]

Ted Dibiase & Cody Rhodes
http://a930.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_0ceb0732e3898285d7e0c1bfbbaad0b9.jpg

Chris Jericho
http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/85/l_5300c88b4752096dc3436652e1a92148.jpg

Mickie James
http://a850.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_6cee768f19088cd5ae725c22115ebc79.jpg

Mickie is tiny
http://a656.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/93/l_83bfc13d8b8a5d5d334eb358768b70b7.jpg

Edge Pyro
http://a47.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/6/l_1291f26ad8e05d6f5b370473c9dd19f6.jpg

Edge
http://a879.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/95/l_d91745c59dd55b42010fbb7e1c7fa0fe.jpg

Batista Pyro
http://a692.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_57e0371338e843e274a538d541bd79c3.jpg

Batista
http://a748.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_0e5136e6039e80dca17bcda481c676c3.jpg

Batisa Vs Edge
http://a815.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/36/l_35f103ab2d114d5f4253870503a10366.jpg

[jbailey84]

John Cena
http://a396.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/l_15c41714c620a7479943b9cc49c2f403.jpg

HHH
http://a532.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/l_28b22f7f6cf79b1a850b4a0b14b7cd63.jpg

John Cena Vs HHH
http://a23.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/67/l_500ddb9d0cf23fcf7a7903fe5df2a21e.jpg

Suck It!
http://a66.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/l_126807d9d1ede0613f36602ad85149e9.jpg

Pedigree
http://a604.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/88/l_537bcb8c35b4451a8e84d57b5a8c151b.jpg

STFU
http://a134.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_d427c50c46e7fce4ea0a955f83587a55.jpg

Crippler Crossface
http://a185.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/l_007e87c830aefe1d931bc82dd4714d28.jpg

HHH wins it!!
http://a688.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/34/l_4b0af5a642e8654966336d64a9467ddf.jpg

Me
http://a764.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/115/l_a09ec9e153f942ba476f5a895179ed13.jpg

[Starwars411]

So what does everyone think of CM Punk becoming the World Champ?

I think it's a great idea switching the titles, I kind of figured they might and create some new interesting storylines.

However, I don't think Punk will hold onto the title for long, Cena or Batista will probably win it next.

[jbailey84]

as much as i like Edge, im glad Punk won it. but now hearing he accepted to defend it against JBL........short reign.....

[Starwars411]

I think Cena might come back and interfere to get revenge on what JBL did.

[RedVader 2004]

Punk still champion and Kingston as well. I shoudl have know HHH wasn't gonna get Punked tonight. So it had to be Edge.

[jbailey84]

whew im happy Punk didnt job to JBL. i hope they keep the title on Punk.

[ChaCho]

Damn J niceeeee pics, I bet HHH's water fell on you right? right????!!!

Punk coming out at that moment was unpredictable, great capture. I hope he stays with it for a while, he'll probably feud with Batista. I'm guessing Cena will feud with JBL after the ending of RAW.

[chewie]

I don't think Punk coming out was that unpredictable. They could not go with two titles on one show.

[jbailey84]

Damn J niceeeee pics, I bet HHH's water fell on you right? right????!!!

Punk coming out at that moment was unpredictable, great capture. I hope he stays with it for a while, he'll probably feud with Batista. I'm guessing Cena will feud with JBL after the ending of RAW.

thanks. it got on the guys in front of me though lol.


i really hope they keep the belt on Punk. maybe this could be a time for him to go heel? have a showdown with him and Batista at Great American Bash or even Summer Slam

[Rogue]

Am I the only one that misses the APA? :( I can't stand Bradshaw these days.

[Inval1d]

Am I the only one that misses the APA? :( I can't stand Bradshaw these days.

haha i was just having a discussion with a friend how we cant stand JBL now but loved him when him and Ron were in the APA

im glad they didnt do the typical WWE screwover and have a deserving/awesome guy to have the belt and then later on then night lose it to someone whos been champ numerous times.

[ZombieMan]

First off, VERY NICE PICS BAILEY!!! I dig those man!!!

About CM Punk, I think that he should turn heel and feud with Batista. Keep the Cena/JBL thing going, and eventually have Batista win the title, and end up wrestling Cena & JBL for the title, later on (in a 3-way). I would personally like to see Kofi Kingston someday in a feud with CM Punk, or Paul London. Now, THOSE would be some really rad matches!!!

[jbailey84]

thanks zomb :D

yea CM Punk nees to go heel. he needs to have this "im the champ, im better than you" randy orton type attitude.



heres the dvd listing for Mr. Perfects DVD coming out in september

Disc 1

Perfection
Twin City Origins
Building a Path
AWA
Mr. Perfect
Living up to His Name
Intercontinental Champion
The Prankster
Commentator
WCW
Return to the WWE
A Sudden Tragedy
Hall of Fame
The Perfect Legacy Lives On

Curt Hennig vs. Eddie Gilbert
Madison Square Garden (21/11/82)

Curt Hennig & Scott Hall vs. Steve Regal & Jimmy Garvin
AWA Championship Wrestling (26/11/85)

Mr. Perfect Hall of Fame Induction
WWE Hall of Fame (31/03/07)

“Rap is Crap” Music Video

Vignettes
Billiards October 1, 1988
Golf – Perfect Putt October 1, 1988
Darts October 8, 1988
Bowling October 8, 1988
Chess October 15, 1988
Basketball October 15, 1988
Ping Pong October 28, 1989
Diving November 4, 1989
Golf – Perfect Drive November 4, 1989
Horseshoes November 24, 1989
Baseball with Wade Boggs December 26, 1992
Football – Perfect Passer with Steve Jordan February 13, 1993
Basketball with Felton Spencer February 27, 1993
Hockey with Mike Modano March 13, 1993

Stories
Curt Loved Karaoke
Lifestyles of Mr. Perfect


Disc 2

60-Minute Time Limit AWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
Curt Hennig vs. Nick Bockwinkel
AWA Championship Wrestling (15/11/86)

Curt Hennig vs. Terry Taylor
Commentary By: Michael Cole & Mick Foley
WrestleFest (31/07/88)

Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart
Madison Square Garden (24/04/89)

WWE Championship Match
Mr. Perfect vs. Hulk Hogan
Madison Square Garden (15/01/90)

WWE Intercontinental Championship Match with Special Referee Roddy Piper
Mr. Perfect vs. The Texas Tornado
Madison Square Garden (24/11/90)

WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect
SummerSlam (26/08/91)

WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Mr. Perfect vs. Shawn Michaels
SummerSlam (30/08/93)

Curt Hennig vs. Bret Hart
Uncensored (15/03/98)

[chewie]

Vignettes
Billiards October 1, 1988
Golf – Perfect Putt October 1, 1988
Darts October 8, 1988
Bowling October 8, 1988
Chess October 15, 1988
Basketball October 15, 1988
Ping Pong October 28, 1989
Diving November 4, 1989
Golf – Perfect Drive November 4, 1989
Horseshoes November 24, 1989
Baseball with Wade Boggs December 26, 1992
Football – Perfect Passer with Steve Jordan February 13, 1993
Basketball with Felton Spencer February 27, 1993
Hockey with Mike Modano March 13, 1993



Those were the best.

[ChaCho]

I don't think Punk coming out was that unpredictable. They could not go with two titles on one show.

They could have. It would have been interesting, as it has never been done. Everytime a show lost the title, the other one got the other one right away. When Lesnar went to SmackDown with the Undisputed, Bishoff gave HHH the World Title. And When Cena went to RAW with the WWE Title, three weeks later Batista went with the World Title to SmackDown.

To me it seemed more predictable that The Rock or Stone Cold would come out and defend JR. I thought after the Batista Bomb they would just go to commercials.

Also, is it me or is Cryme Tyme cool as hell, they should have some good ass roles.

[jbailey84]

yea Stone Cold coming out would make more sense since he and JR are best friends.

but still awesome Punk winning ala Edge style ;)

[chewie]

As Batista was walking up the ramp I was thinking to myself "Punk should come out and steal the title the same way Edge did." Then moments later it happened. The reason I thought this is Raw has to have a champion and it was an opportune moment. With how "championship centered" wrestling on TV is now they could not go on for much longer unless somebody on Raw challenged one of the Smackdown champions.

[Rogue]

I'm so over the whole Edge family thing. Personally, I think the whole thing is a disgrace to Eddie's memory, but that's just me. :(

[RedVader 2004]

Yeah it makes Eddies wife kinda trampy and a gold digger. But if i were Edge i would not scorn GM Vicki Gerrero for she gave him that belt basically. I know its a wwe story line i just saying a women scorn if that will make liefe miserable for all of Smackdowns male wrestlers.

[ChaCho]

I'm so over the whole Edge family thing. Personally, I think the whole thing is a disgrace to Eddie's memory, but that's just me. :(


Me and you the same. I hate that whole story line. They've been it at it for a long time, and they need to end it now. I thought Taker was going to end it, but they end it up ending him.

I looked up the match on youtube when Cena was in the Elimination Chamber and Edge came out at the end and stole the title from him for the 1st time. I was like man... pure karma. They took a couple of years to make it happen, but they made it happen.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I agree with everyone about Vickie/Edge. Its a disgrace to Eddie if you ask me...I don't know how he was, but I know that I wouldn't be a happy soul.

[chewie]

The thing that gets me is that people boo her even though she lost her husband whom was a pretty popular wrestler. I guess the WWE guided her in that direction though. I don't think I could ever boo her I don't care what she does.

[Rogue]

I thought Taker was going to end it, but they end it up ending him.




And that just about made my head explode. Taker is one of my all time favorites.


I quit watching for a quite a while but my best friend and his cousin got me back into it. I'm playing catch up and I'm really confused right now because I don't know half the talent!

[jbailey84]

The thing that gets me is that people boo her even though she lost her husband whom was a pretty popular wrestler. I guess the WWE guided her in that direction though. I don't think I could ever boo her I don't care what she does.


they're booing her tv persona. and her tv involvment with Edge.

[Starwars411]

SPOILER FOR SMACKDOWN:


Edge will fight HHH at the Great American Bash.

At the end of the show, Edge is mad and calls off the wedding, thus ending their relationship.

[chewie]

they're booing her tv persona. and her tv involvment with Edge.

I know that.

[Rogue]

Then again, Lita and Edge used to be two of my favorites until that whole Lita/Edge/Matt Hardy thing went down. I haven't been able to get back into Edge or his wrestling ever since. Every time I do catch him in the ring, it seems to me he's lacking. It's like he's lost his passion.

[HotBoy]

Here's my guess on what the main event on next week's RAW is going to be:

8 Man Tag-Team Match:

JBL, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes & Ted Dibiase

v.

John Cena, Kofi Kingston, & Cryme Tyme!!!

[Ser Ty Of Ross]

^^^ I agree with everyone about Vickie/Edge. Its a disgrace to Eddie if you ask me...I don't know how he was, but I know that I wouldn't be a happy soul.

Sorry about your buddys release... i always thought he was the better of the pairing.

Rumours swirling that Domino could be the next to go as they may be cutting what htey consider the less talented of the pairings they seperated in the draft. Makes me wonder about Paul London as well as Vince already doesn't like him.

As for Edge ever since I started watching again he's been a fave. Then again he's the hometown boy. Even during the whole Matt/Lita thing I was rooting for him. Never agreed with what he did but I thought Matt acted like the bigger jerk making it public. Still not quite behind Matt for that, thought he deserved his release and shouldn't have been brought back in. Edge needs a re-tool though his "Ultimate Opportunist" schtick is starting to wear a little thin (and La Familia needs to end very very quickly). They should let him go back to face for a little while (but wont because they need top heels).

As for the title situation... well I agree with most that Punk probobly wont have it long. Batista is simply terrible though, Cena's gimmick is old (and has been for 2 years, he needs a heel turn badly) and JBL probobly doesn't have the ability to do a proper champ run after his injuries. I say give it to someone who hasn't had it in a while. Maybe HBK or Jericho, or someone totally new (this would have been a perfect time for Jeff to step it up except he was drafted, same with Kennedy).

HHH seems like a lock for a while on Smackdown, not too many real challengers over ther right now but many who could become so within the year.

Worst situation is on ECW... I mean Mark henry, the man can't wrestle and has the personality of a wet paper bag full of dog snot. But nobody there to really put the strap on besides him.

[RedVader 2004]

I think The Undertaker will come back on Smackdown maybe instead of Raw. Maybe Vicki will bring him back to get even with Edge for breaking her heart. Or this break up could be a stunt like Evolution pretended to break you before it actually did. I say its a ploy to try and steal HHH belt and teh wedding will be back on.

[chewie]

That's what I'm thinking. It's just an act.

[RedVader 2004]

But seeing Edge and Vicki kiss was turning my stomach each week. But storyline wise tehy work so hard too keep teh belt from Batista and loose it to PUnk on Raw. Story wise they had too be pissed.

[ZombieMan]

Sorry about your buddys release... i always thought he was the better of the pairing.

Rumours swirling that Domino could be the next to go as they may be cutting what htey consider the less talented of the pairings they seperated in the draft. Makes me wonder about Paul London as well as Vince already doesn't like him.

Yup, I was shocked to hear that Trevor had been released. I had no idea that was going to happen. I thought that he was going to get more television time on Smackdown. I am pretty disappointed, thats for dang sure. I feel really weird now, because I just send a message to his fiance the other day about whether Trevor would be able to come to my wedding in the fall, with his new Smackdown schedule. No wonder why she hasn't responded yet. Yikes...Bad timing for sure, huh? I actually thought that Trev lacked a little in the WWE though. He seemed a little uncomfortable in the ring. Of course, for a big guy, he likes to do things from the top rope a lot, in the indies. I am pretty sure that Vince didn't like the idea though. Though, when Trevor and I were traveling partners once upon a time, he wrestled Jeff Jarrett at an indy show (when Jarrett was recruiting). He ended up on TNA when they first started as Stan Dupp (along with Bo Dupp). So, I just wonder if Jarrett might pick Trevor back up or not. Hopefully he will!!! Anyhow, As for Cade, I think that he's a really awesome wrestler, and I wish him the best along the way in WWE. As for other cuts. If they get rid of Kendrick or London, then they will head for TNA for sure, I would guess. As for Deuce or Domino. I would be afraid if I were them two. They could easily be next. And to think they are bringing back Ron Killings (AKA K-Kwiq), I always thought that he sucked.

[ChaCho]

All this getting rid of wrestlers business is good though. These are all wrestlers who just dont cut it anymore. Not Trevor though, he was very good. But London and Kendrick, their gimmick has just died. They have been at it for years, its time for a change. Cade is playing Jericho's little bith right now, but he will leave, he's not entertaining at all. Trevor should have also changed his gimmick a little, maybe heel, but I mean REALLY heel. As for Deuce and Domino I dont care what happens to them in the least.

I like RedVader's theory about how Undertaker will return. That fits in nicely.

[jbailey84]

Trevor was great!! it sucks that he left :( was hoping to see him get a push for the IC Title or US Title.

best wishes for you Trev.

[RedVader 2004]

With Kanes melt down maybe Understaker is coming to Raw . Also why does every want Punk to turn heel. Usually Heels make a turn when they go on a loosing streak. I think they will display Punk as a fighting Champion. Where he will wrestle anyone every week.
A Mysterio v/s Punk match would be very good.

[ZombieMan]

Trevor actually played a face better, back in his WLW days. Wish that they would have let him take a run with it.

[ChaCho]

This is all probably personal problems too. Contract stuff and everything.

Anyone know what Kane was talking about at the end of RAW. I think it was a cool ending too. How King saved Cole and everything.

[RedVader 2004]

I think its cooler that fans booed when king did save Cole. Micheal Cole would have gotten a serious beating though and a few would have liked seeing that.

[chewie]

What ever happened to lead commentaters knowing what the holds and moves are called?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

vcZvSv_fZd0

:funny:

What ever happened to lead commentaters knowing what the holds and moves are called?

I think Joey Styles said it best

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[jbailey84]

when was that with Styles?

[chewie]

I remember reading that Joey Styles wrote that little speech himself. A lot of what he said made sense and still does.

[RedVader 2004]

JR knows the names of holds and used to say what they were alot. Can anyone tell me where Smackdown will be shown after CW contract ends. If it will be on My Network TV then i won't see Smackdown for dish network would likely make me get a bigger more expensive package.

[SouthsideX300]

Awesome youtube link Insane.

[Felix Leiter]

So who do you guys think tried to "off" Vince?

Kane? Undertaker? Shane and Steph?

I'm going to throw another name out there. William Regal. Think about it...

1. With Vince gone there is no one in control of Raw. He wants to be the GM again
2. Revenge. Vince through him in a "You're Fired!" match with Kennedy which he lost.
3. Regal's real life suspension is over in a few weeks.

Just an idea. What do you think?

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Nice assumptions! You might be right about Regal.

[RedVader 2004]

I had a funny notion it was Good Ole Jr for putting him on Smackdown. JR as a heel turn would be unexpected and he could be behind the Kane stuff for Kane went after Micheal Cole but King got in the way.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Another good assumption. Good ideas guys! I can't wait for Raw tonight, that's for damn sure!

[jbailey84]

that was an interesting address from Steph and Shane.

[chewie]

There will be a new GM next show. Are Regal's two months up yet? I'm thinking it might be a bit early for his return.

[SouthsideX300]

Anyone see that run down by JBL on cena? Hilarious stuff.

[RedVader 2004]

That wreck was too close to the other car for a person to be between them.

[Starwars411]

WWE.com is saying that Cena moved out of the way in time and was only grazed.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

such a cop out.

[ZombieMan]

Stupidity...

[ChaCho]

LOL
I knew something like this would happen, hahahaha.

[chewie]

Had to see something like this coming after Stephanie and Shane's pre-recorded message.

[ChaCho]

I thought their message was kind of stupid. Talking about an anouthorized crowning of a new World Champion. It's like they are practically saying, "We pick the champs, so Punk will have to give up his". They should just die, yeah.

[ZombieMan]

WWE is falling apart...

[RedVader 2004]

Um would anyone vote on a Best Wrestler all Time Tournament. If so would you guys think people would vote on it and where should i put the tournament.

[ZombieMan]

I bet that Ric Flair would win. But, I would be up for it.

[Starwars411]

I think Taker would be in the Final Four. And a good place I guess to put the tournament would either be in the Sports section or Trivia.

[RedVader 2004]

I'll composite a list tonight and post the Tournament sometime tomarrow.

[ZombieMan]

I have some suggestions...These are just favorites of mine though. Even if I know they won't win, I'd still like to see some of them on there. Also, there are others that I just think deserve it.

Andre The Giant
Kurt Angle
Bradshaw
Ron Simmons
BG James
David Arquette (JUST KIDDING!!!)
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Mike Awesome
Buff Bagwell
Batista
Chris Benoit
Bam Bam Bigelow
Harley Race
D'Lo Brown
Bryan Clark
Christian
Carlito
Ted DiBiase Sr.
Tommy Dreamer
Edge
Finlay
Ric Flair
Mick Foley
Dory Funk Jr.
Terry Funk
Gangrel
Juventud Guerrera
Eddie Guerrero
Billy Gunn (Kip James)
Haku
Scott Hall
Jeff Hardy
Matt Hardy
Booker T
Bret Hart
Owen Hart
Curt Hennig
Hulk Hogan
Bob Holly
Jeff Jarrett
Marty Jannetty
Chris Jericho
Kane
Chris Kanyon
Billy Kidman
Konnan
La Parka
Jerry Lawler
Jushin Liger
Lex Luger
Big Daddy V
Dean Malenko
Wahoo McDaniel
Shawn Michaels
Taka Michinoku
Rey Mysterio Jr.
Kevin Nash
Diamond Dallas Page
The Undertaker
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Brian Pillman
Raven
William Regal
Dustin Rhodes (Goldust)
Dusty Rhodes
Rikishi
The Rock
Rick Rude
Sabu
Randy Savage
Perry Saturn
Ken Shamrock
Sgt. Slaughter
Davey Boy Smith
Al Snow
Jimmy Snuka
Ricky Steamboat
Rick Steiner
Scott Steiner
Sting
A.J. Styles
Super Crazy
Tajiri
Tatanka
Lou Thesz
Triple H
The Ultimate Warrior
Ultimo Dragon
Vader
Rob Van Dam
Sid Vicious
Kerry Von Erich
Barry Windham
X-Pac
Yokozuna

Just some idea's!

[RedVader 2004]

Would Ultimate Dragon and Ray Mysterio be a good match up.

[ChaCho]

It would. But Rey would take it.

Zombie, that list had some good names, but Batista, Carlito, Billy Kidman, Al Snow, X-Pac. That is just fill ups.

I think final four would be The Undertaker, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan and HBK

[ZombieMan]

It would. But Rey would take it.

Zombie, that list had some good names, but Batista, Carlito, Billy Kidman, Al Snow, X-Pac. That is just fill ups.

I think final four would be The Undertaker, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan and HBK

Yup, I just added those for fill ins, but you never know what may happen. ;) Though, I do think that Carlito is a damn good wrestler. The best out of all of those, I would have to say.

[ChaCho]

Nah until he gets his act together and starts main eventing he won't be. I think Batista is the best one there. He is main eventing PPVs and winning World Titles.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ The WWE has also been discriminating against Carlito hardcore. He has been asking for his release. They are just abusing him, if anything. He hasn't been performing near as good, because he wants his release and they won't hand it to him. I think that they are just trying to make him miserable.

[jbailey84]

Would Ultimate Dragon and Ray Mysterio be a good match up.

It would. But Rey would take it.

until La Parka comes in and wins it ;)

[chewie]

La Parka all the way!

[ChaCho]

^^^ The WWE has also been discriminating against Carlito hardcore. He has been asking for his release. They are just abusing him, if anything. He hasn't been performing near as good, because he wants his release and they won't hand it to him. I think that they are just trying to make him miserable.

I don't think they want to make him miserable. He's a good wrestler than can sell. He applies a lot to the Latino community and I think thats good for business and why they want to keep him.



Also on tonights SmackDown, HHH was just plain hilarious man. God it was sweet how it took HHH 10 mins to ruin that wedding.

Also is it me or is Brian Kendrick trying a little too late to get a good role on the WWE. I mean he wrestles as a tag team for years and NOW he wants to come out and act all though and whatnot. I think that bodyguard of his might get more famous than him faster than him.

[Ser Ty Of Ross]

I think final four would be The Undertaker, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan and HBK

I wouldn't be so sure that Rock or Stone Cold wouldn't make the final 4.

[ChaCho]

True

[ZombieMan]

About Brian Kendrick...I really like his new gimmick, A LOT!

[jbailey84]

i know the ppv is happening now, but i havent read or visited wwe.com for any updates but here are my picks


WWE Championship Match
Triple H defends against Edge

World Heavyweight Championship Match
CM Punk defends against Batista

ECW Championship Match
Mark Henry defends against Tommy Dreamer

WWE Tag Team Championship Fatal Four Way
John Morrison & The Miz defend against Finlay & Hornswoggle, Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder, and Jesse & Festus

New York City Parking Lot Brawl
John Cena vs. JBL

Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho

WWE Divas Championship Match
Michelle McCool vs. Natalya

[ChaCho]

About Brian Kendrick...I really like his new gimmick, A LOT!

I dont :nono:

[ChaCho]

The PPV didnt seem so good from what I read on WWE.com, I couldn't watch it so I can't really judge it.

[jbailey84]

i went 3-4 on my picks :/ the ppv sounded ok.

[ChaCho]

Great ending to RAW last night. But it's getting out of hand, we need a GM. Batista demanding a rematch it's not fair. Yeah, he got cheated, but it wasnt Punk's fault, so he should be put in the back of the line

[chewie]

How about CM Punk deciding who he wants to face, since he is the champ and all; which is what happened last night.

[ZombieMan]

Hmmm, wonder who the new GM will be...It should be Lawler... ;)

[ChaCho]

That would be cool. We just need someone to "impliment" the rules

[ZombieMan]

Here are my current favorites. Number 1 being the best...Also, here is a list of people who I think should be released.

FAVORITES of RAW
1. Kofi Kingston (AWESOME TALENT AND INTERESTING!!!)
2. Mickie James (Very hot, and she can wrestle well.)
3. D'Lo Brown (I AM SOOO GLAD TO SEE HIM BACK. I jumped out my chair on Monday.)
4. Chris Jericho (Always been a big fan, and his book rocks!!!)
5. Paul London (Still rooting for him!!!)
6. Ted DiBiase Jr. (I really like how he works.)
7. Rey Mysterio (Good guy, and good wrestler.)
8. Val Venis (Though, they barely ever us him. SAD, he's a great wrestler!!!)
9. JBL (I've always liked him too. But he was better as an Acolyte.)
10. Kelly Kelly (She surprised me on Monday night, WOW!!!)

FAVORITES of SMACKDOWN
1. Carlito (Always been a big fan!!!)
2. Brian Kendrick (I love what he is doing now, and he can wrestle well.)
3. Jeff Hardy (Well, duhhh!!!)
4. Festus (Interesting character and he can move around well.)
5. Mr. Kennedy (One of the best wrestling personalities and wrestles VERY WELL...)
6. Big Show (Always have been a fan.)
7. Triple H (Kind of partial on him, but I like his personality in the ring.)
8. Big Daddy V (Always been a fan of this guy.)
9. Natalya (She has surprised me, and I like her pretty well.)
10. MVP (Very good wrestler, but needs a new outfit, haha!!!)

FAVORITES of ECW
1. Finlay (Been a fan for a longggg time!!!)
2. Super Crazy (Unusual and very entertaining!!!)
3. Tommy Dreamer (Always been a fan.)
4. Hornswoggle (Pure entertainment!!!)
5. Matt Hardy (Well, duhhh!!!)
6. Nunzio (Lots of talent, under-used in my opinion.)
7. The Boogeyman (Always been a fan of this gimmick idea. PSYCHO!!!)
8. John Morrison (Very good in the ring and works hard.)
9. Elijah Burke (I think he's pretty dang good too.)
10. Colin Delaney (Pure entertainment!!!)

Who I think they should drop...
Charlie Haas (Let him go to TNA if you are gonna treat him like crap.)
Deuce (I doubt he finds a good gimmick.)
Katie Lea Burchill (Annoying and stuff...LOL)
Jillian (Yup, SUPER ANNOYING!!!)
Matt Striker (He's never really been used. Drop him...I don't like him anyhow.)
The Highlanders (Not as entertaining as I think they could be.)
Curt Hawkins (Won't happen, but he just annoys me.)
Zack Ryder (Same opinion as above...)
Domino (I think it was a bad idea to split him and Deuce.)
Gregory Helms (I like him, but I doubt he gets anywhere else.)
Jimmy Wang Yang (Borrrring...)
Maryse (Seriously, what does she even do?!)
Ranjin Singh (Boooringgggg...)
The Great Khali (Nobody likes him, waste of money!!!)
Vickie Guerrero (BOOO, annoying and she shouldn't be there anyhow.)
Vladimir Kozlov (Not impressed with this guy...)

[heather2046]

nice!!!!!

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Thank you, thank you!!!

[ChaCho]

Most of them were ok, but Jimmy Wang Yang and Vladimir are very good wrestlers. They NEED to be given a good role and just push with it.

[ZombieMan]

Most of them were ok, but Jimmy Wang Yang and Vladimir are very good wrestlers. They NEED to be given a good role and just push with it.

I just doubt that WWE does anything with them. They misuse so much talent these days.

[jbailey84]

heres something interesting i read in a wrestling newsletter bout Kane

"Is he alive or is he dead???". That seems to be the big question on Raw.What is Kane talking about? What is in the bag? We know it's not Undertaker.He's gonna be brought back to by Vickie. She wants to get back at Edge. Sowhat better way then to put him in a Hell in a Cell match against TheUndertaker at SummerSlam. So that angle is kind of ruled out. I think Kane
is just referring to his old self. I think he is carrying his old mask in his bag. He is going to go back to his old ways of fire and brimstone. The EVIL Kane will rise from the ashes.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ OMG, that would RULE ASS!!! I would love that, seriously. Also, I want jbailey's opinion on my opinions on the previous page! ;)

[Starwars411]

I actually thought of his mask being in the bag when I first saw it last Monday. That would be cool. I also think he should grow his hair out and work out to the point of him looking like his old self.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I couldn't agree more. Have an inferno match, or something, and have him get re-burned. Then make it a long feud. Ummm, I would make it against CM Punk and Batista. Kind of have them both screw him over ("burn him"), to where he comes back and goes after them both. That would be awesome! The old, unstoppable, scary Kane.

[ChaCho]

YES!!! Taker is coming back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, and in a Hell in a Cell

Kane going back to his old self would be awsome, I think he would look cool how he's dressed now and with the mask, I think he'd look cool.

[ZombieMan]

Ehhh...I think he should put a shirt back on. Haha!!!

[Starwars411]

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/299/071/46/7c_1.JPG > http://www.occidentalism.org/pic/kane.jpg

[jbailey84]

[QUOTE=ZombieMan;2460208]Here are my current favorites. Number 1 being the best...Also, here is a list of people who I think should be released.

FAVORITES of RAW
1. Kofi Kingston (AWESOME TALENT AND INTERESTING!!!)not really digging him
2. Mickie James (Very hot, and she can wrestle well.)totally agree :D
3. D'Lo Brown (I AM SOOO GLAD TO SEE HIM BACK. I jumped out my chair on Monday.)eh
4. Chris Jericho (Always been a big fan, and his book rocks!!!)why cant he save us?
6. Ted DiBiase Jr. (I really like how he works.)Priceless
7. Rey Mysterio (Good guy, and good wrestler.)good, but not great
8. Val Venis (Though, they barely ever us him. SAD, he's a great wrestler!!!)he is a great wrestler
9. JBL (I've always liked him too. But he was better as an Acolyte.)like his promos, not his ring skills


FAVORITES of SMACKDOWN
1. Carlito (Always been a big fan!!!)so underused!!
3. Jeff Hardy (Well, duhhh!!!)will he ever see the gold of a heavyweight?
5. Mr. Kennedy (One of the best wrestling personalities and wrestles VERY WELL...)he NEEDS the gold of a heavyweight
10. MVP (Very good wrestler, but needs a new outfit, haha!!!)should have been drafted to raw and feud for the IC title


Who I think they should drop...
The Great Khali (Nobody likes him, waste of money!!!)i dont mind TGK. just seeing him live is impressive enough)

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Thank you for the opinions sir!

[ChaCho]

Hey, you didn't thank me...

[ChaCho]

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/299/071/46/7c_1.JPG > http://www.occidentalism.org/pic/kane.jpg


Picture the bottom one with the mask on

[Starwars411]

I don't think it would look right cause the only way the mask can work is with long hair. Gives it a more menacing look than just seeing some bald guy in a mask.

[jbailey84]

^^^ Thank you for the opinions sir!

no prob bro

[ChaCho]

I don't think it would look right cause the only way the mask can work is with long hair. Gives it a more menacing look than just seeing some bald guy in a mask.

Then he could grow his hair

[ZombieMan]

Hey, you didn't thank me...

Sorry bro, haha!!! THANK YOU!!! Not being sarcastic either. :)

[jbailey84]

very interesting RAW show. i didnt see it, mainly that i went to see The Dark Knight for the 6th time(one more time to break my record!!) but i read the results and sounded like a good show. having Mike Amadale(sp?) as GM, doesnt sound good but i think it could work. i must say, i really do miss seeing Eric Bischoff though :( Batista Vs Cena at Summer Slam seems a little premature, i was hoping that they could have had waited till WM 25 but cant always get what you want.

[ZombieMan]

I was thinking that the GM would turn out to be Ted DiBiase Sr. I am not very happy about Adamle getting the spot. LAME...I'd rather see Michael Cole be the GM than Adamle!!! Other than that, Raw was a good show last night. :)

[insaneMoViEgoer]

I just read an article saying that Freddie Prinz Jr joined the WWE creative team.

W
T
F
?

:confused:

[ChaCho]

Who is he?

And damn I was dissapointed by that new GM, I mean... I think Bailey would have been a better GM, gosh, cant we get some competent people.............

GOSH

[ChaCho]

Sorry bro, haha!!! THANK YOU!!! Not being sarcastic either. :)

Oh no yeah dont worry

[jbailey84]

Who is he?

And damn I was dissapointed by that new GM, I mean... I think Bailey would have been a better GM, gosh, cant we get some competent people.............

GOSH really? me? GM? GM of RAW :D

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Who is he?

Star of such classics like "She's All That" "Scooby-Doo" and hit television series "Freddie"

Can't wait for "I know what you did last Summerslam" :P

[ChaCho]

oh nice lol

[ChaCho]

really? me? GM? GM of RAW :D

i was just joking, you can be the guy that gets him his coffee though

[jbailey84]

oh, goddammit!! :mad::(:waa:




















but if i get the GM coffee, i can finally make my way with Mickie James :D

[ChaCho]

damn, didnt think of that...
oh yeah, nope, you have to stay in his office all the time, the only time your allowed out is to use the bathroom, and incredible as it may seem, during those ten minutes you use the bathroom, she'll be having a match

[jbailey84]

well im gonna make a Kevin Nash and walk out

[ChaCho]

lol, you stalker

[Starwars411]

Well, Ric Flair has parted ways with the WWE.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/flairpartways

[ChaCho]

Was he still under contract?

[chewie]

Yes he was. He was doing promotional type work and would still do some signings every once and a while.

[ChaCho]

Wow. I wonder what he is going to do now?
What if he joins TNA?

[chewie]

I think he'd be great as a GM type person.

[ChaCho]

Wasn't he GM when he joined WCW?

[RedVader 2004]

My Best Wrestler Tournament is up and running so if anyone hasn't voted please take part in teh thread.

[chewie]

WWE Intercontinental & Women's Titles on the line
- Kofi Kingston & Mickie James (c's) vs. Santino Marella & Beth Phoenix.

Here's a mid-card type match that I'm actually looking forward to. There's some good possibilities here. Good job actually by the brass.

[Starwars411]

Cena and Batista winning the tag titles reminds of when Michaels and Cena won it last year.

[ChaCho]

They won it last year? I dont remember that... Damn. Do you guys think HBK will retire?

[jbailey84]

i think HBK will hang it up maybe at Wrestlemania 25 since its being held here in Texas

[jbailey84]

Seriously??

FOLEY MOST LIKELY TO LEAVE THIS MONTH
- While Ric Flair left during the weekend, another future WWE Hall of Famer
looks like he's heading to the same exit later this month. Rumors are flying
around that current Smackdown! commentator Mick Foley will have his last
night with the company at SummerSlam. After returning from his two year
absence in 2003, Foley was not used a lot on WWE television although he did
have a few high profile matches against Randy Orton, Edge and Ric Flair
since then. His last in-ring performance was at the Royal Rumble after he
qualified to participate with Hornswoggle a few weeks earlier on RAW. Foley
was eliminated by Triple H at the Rumble. In April of this year Foley
accepted a role as the new Smackdown! color commentator - replacing JonathanCoachman - teaming up with Michael Cole and later with Jim Ross. Foley was absent from this week's Smackdown! broadcast to sell the attack he received from Edge last week. His contract will be expiring this month.

[ChaCho]

That sucks, I liked Foley around

[jbailey84]

its stupid because they teamed up JR with Foley on SD! and now Foley is leaving? will Lawler jump ship to SD?

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Hopefully they will get JR and Lawler back together, SOMEHOW!!!

[jbailey84]

they need too. thats like breaking up John Madden and um...that other guy that calls the plays with him lol. Michael something right?

[chewie]

Michael something right?

Michael Cole?

[RedVader 2004]

Well John Madden first partner was Pat Summerall. The new one is Al Micheals but i always will see it as Madden and Summerall.

[jbailey84]

Michael Cole?
Al Michaels. the commentator with John Madden.

[ChaCho]

Lol. It would suck though, what was the point in splitting them up in the first place then?

[chewie]

Al Michaels. the commentator with John Madden.

I was just joking. Al Michaels is one of my favorite play by play guys.

[jbailey84]

I was just joking. Al Michaels is one of my favorite play by play guys.
oh lol my bad :D yea i love hearing Madden & Michaels call the games.

[ChaCho]

From WWE.com


Randy Orton was involved in a motorcycle accident near his home Sunday night that could have ended his life were he not wearing a helmet.

Orton, who has only been riding motorcycles for a month, said he was riding around a sharp curve on a steep hill home when an oncoming car veered into his lane causing him to widen his turn.

Orton then struck a curb and was thrown from his bike. He collided with the ground, knocking him unconscious. In his words, Orton "bounced and rolled just under 300 feet, landing in a ditch."

"When I came to, I knew I had rebroken my collarbone," said Orton. "When the police and fireman got there, they asked me 'Where's the guy who was in the wreck?' and I said 'It was me.'"

Orton, who was wearing just shorts and a sweatshirt, only sustained the rebroken collarbone.

"Without a helmet, I would be dead," said Orton. "Now that I have a newborn daughter, so much was going through my head."

Although the initial prognosis is that Orton will not need surgery, this injury will set him back an additional three months before he can return to the ring.

Orton did have one final message for his fans ... "I will ride again."

[jbailey84]

atleast he was wearing his helmet.

i say keep him out until Royal Rumble

[ChaCho]

Good idea, maybe let him win it also

[jbailey84]

yea i wouldnt mind if he won it. just who would he face at WM?

[Starwars411]

Probably Triple H.

[ChaCho]

Yeah, with all the you got me injured thing

[chewie]

Hopefully, a match we haven't seen yet, but I don't think there's too many combinations left.

[ChaCho]

An Iron Man Match would be nice

[jbailey84]

i wouldnt mind Orton Vs Batista

[Starwars411]

Today, Stevie Richards, the Highlanders, and referee Wes Adams were released from the company.

I always felt they never used Stevie right.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I agree, he got the **** end of the deal. They FINALLY let him go. I thought they should have long ago, since they weren't using him, really.

[Starwars411]

Another release and a surprising one at that: Colin Delaney. I guess people didn't think he was working out.

Cherry, a Smackdown Diva, was also released.

[ChaCho]

Wow six people in one day. Ouch.
Honestly I didn't even know that Stevie Richards was still in the WWE

[ZombieMan]

Another release and a surprising one at that: Colin Delaney. I guess people didn't think he was working out.

Cherry, a Smackdown Diva, was also released.

****, I hate to hear both of those releases. Cherry was FINE!!! And Delaney just entertained me, haha!!!

[jbailey84]

here's my picks for Summer Slam

Edge vs. Undertaker (Hell in a Cell Match)
WWE Champion Triple H vs. The Great Khali
World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk vs. JBL
ECW Champion Mark Henry vs. Matt Hardy
John Cena vs. Batista
Montel Vontavious Porter vs. Jeff Hardy
IC Champ Kofi & Womens Champ Mickie James Vs Santino & Beth (Winners Take All Tag Team Match)

[chewie]

I know the PPV has started already, but I haven't seen any results so far.


World Heavyweight Championship Match
- CM Punk (c) vs. JBL.

WWE Championship Match
- Triple H (c) vs. The Great Khali.

ECW Championship Match
- Mark Henry (c) vs. Matt Hardy.

Hell in a Cell Match
- The Undertaker vs. Edge.

- John Cena vs. Batista.

- Jeff Hardy vs. MVP.

Winner Takes All Match
WWE Intercontinental & Women's Titles on the line
- Kofi Kingston & Mickie James (c's) vs. Santino Marella & Beth Phoenix.

[Starwars411]

So, what did you guys think of the PPV?

The best match was definitely the Undertaker/Edge match. Loved the ending of it when Taker chokeslammed Edge through the ring and then the fire came.

The worst matches were Matt Hardy vs. Mark Henry, seemed more just like a filler match rather then a championship match and it was done in less then a minute because of the DQ, and the HHH/Khali match. The ending was dumb, Khali is beating the **** out of HHH and all HHH does is kick Khali in the stomach and Pedigree him.

I'm glad Batista won, it's about time Cena lost a big PPV match. I know, though, that if he were the champ at the time he would've won.

CM Punk vs. JBL was a pretty good match, Punk took a hard shot to the back of the head. That definitely wasn't intentional.

[ChaCho]

*sob*
I couldn't watch SummerSlam, I was stuck at home without a ride to go see it.

[jbailey84]

couldnt watch it :( grandparents were watching some kung fu movie on Spike :mad:

not bad on my picks, 4-3.

[ChaCho]

Man I wanted to watch the Hell in a Cell soooo bad, DAMN!

[jbailey84]

announced on RAW

Adamle announced a “Championship Scramble” for Unforgiven between World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk, Kane, JBL, Batista and John Cena. The match will last for 20 minutes and will see the title go to whoever can defeat an opponent, with the championship allowed to change multiple times during the match. At the end of the time limit, whoever the current champion is will be the new World Heavyweight Champion. i'd rather it be a 30 min match than 20.

[chewie]

I agree. That match will probably be the main event and it's going to last 20 minutes?

[jbailey84]

I agree. That match will probably be the main event and it's going to last 20 minutes?
well it depends on what Smackdown has to offer especially with The Undertaker back. HHH Vs Taker?

[ChaCho]

Too soon. He first has to finish all that family business and get revenge on Vickie.

I think that match for Unforgiven sucks, a lot. I mean five people wrestling and it will only last 20 minutes? I don't know. This GM guy really sucks balls

[jbailey84]

yea but the belt can change hands multiple times and whoever has the belt last, wins it.

[Starwars411]

They did the same thing back at Wrestlemania 2000, except with the Hardcore title and it was like 10 minutes long.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Yup, that rocked!!!

[ChaCho]

What I dont like its the time, I mean, only twenty minutes? The HBK vs Flair match at Wrestlemania was at least half-hour.

[jbailey84]

well i dont know if anyones seen this but its WWE's Top 25 Ring Entrances

25. Tatanka
24. Nation of Domination
23. Gangrel
22. Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase
21. Honky Tonk Man
20. Mr. Perfect
19. Mankind
18. Razor Ramon
17. Stone Cold Steve Austin
16. Jake the Snake Roberts
15. Triple H
14. Ultimate Warrior
13. Legion of Doom
12. Kane
11. Bret Hitman Hart
10. Edge
9. D-X
8. Undertaker
7. nWo
6. The Rock
5. Chris Jericho
4. Roddy Piper
3. Shawn Michaels
2. Mr. McMahon
1. Hulk Hogan

http://www.wwe.com/inside/top25/top25entrancethemes/

i expected Undertaker to be atleast Top 5.

[ChaCho]

That list is gay. Edge's entrance above Stone Cold's and HHH's. And Chris Jericho's above The Undertaker? That list is bogus.

[ChaCho]

AND Holy ****! Mr. McHamon in number 2!!??

[ZombieMan]

well i dont know if anyones seen this but its WWE's Top 25 Ring Entrances

25. Tatanka
24. Nation of Domination
23. Gangrel
22. Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase
21. Honky Tonk Man
20. Mr. Perfect
19. Mankind
18. Razor Ramon
17. Stone Cold Steve Austin
16. Jake the Snake Roberts
15. Triple H
14. Ultimate Warrior
13. Legion of Doom
12. Kane
11. Bret Hitman Hart
10. Edge
9. D-X
8. Undertaker
7. nWo
6. The Rock
5. Chris Jericho
4. Roddy Piper
3. Shawn Michaels
2. Mr. McMahon
1. Hulk Hogan

http://www.wwe.com/inside/top25/top25entrancethemes/

i expected Undertaker to be atleast Top 5.

I always thought that Gangrel's was really awesome, for sure! Also, DX was cool as heck, and Kane's of course. But, I prefer Kane's old theme compared to the newer one. NWO was a good one, I agree on that. I always liked Cactus Jack's theme for some reason too.

[jbailey84]

Goldberg had a cool entrance too. i think Lesnar did too.

[Starwars411]

Nothing can compare to the entrance of GILLBERG!!!

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[jbailey84]

lol Gillberg

is it just me or does the SD Scramble look weak?

[Starwars411]

I think they just wanted to add in some fresh faces rather use the same people going for the title over and over again *cough*RAW*cough*.

[ChaCho]

Damn that video is funny.

And I agree with Starwars, Seeing Hardy, MVP and Kendrick going for it, its better than Kane, JBL and Batista going for it. Again. Also, cool that Mysterio is in the match now. Sucks for Cena, hope he comes back fast again.

[Starwars411]

Supposedly, Cena will be back in like 2-4 months, possibly coming back at Survivor Series.

[jbailey84]

yea if he returns at Survivor Series, he'll end up being a 'mystery' team member.

[jbailey84]

i heard that Kevin Nash may be leaving TNA and possibly jump ship to WWE and help out HBK.

any thoughts?

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I would LOVE for Nash to jump ship to WWE. That would be a great storyline if he came in to help HBK. :)

On a sad note...RIP Killer Kowalski...I am glad that I had the pleasure to meet the legend once upon a time. He gave me some great advice as well. Good guy...He will be missed.

[ChaCho]

I saw the news WWE.com, I did not know him, but it sucks when anybody dies. Hope his family gets better.

Kevin Nash going to WWE does not really excite me.

[jbailey84]

in the words of Goldberg, "Who's Next?"

SHAWN MICHAELS SUFFERS TRICEPS INJURY AT RAW TAPINGS
- With Cena and Orton out, what WWE didn't want was another main eventer on
the injured list but more bad news hit WWE yesterday as Shawn Michaels has
suffered an arm injury, believed to be a triceps tear according to Mike
Johnson at PWInsider.com. The injury happened during the final segment of
the RAW tapings yesterday where a contract signing between HBK and Y2J
closed the show. The two are scheduled to meet at the upcoming Unforgiven
pay-per-view although it's not know what the status will be now that
Michaels is injured. While HBK may want to go ahead with the match it really
depends on what the doctors say.

[cdef872]

*edit*

[ChaCho]

Damn that sucks!! And it's kind of a weird injury too. I hope he can compete at Unforgiven.

[Starwars411]

Some think it isn't too bad and that he'll compete no matter what.

[jbailey84]

i read that it WASNT a complete tear, just a minor tear. so more than likely HBK will wrestle sunday.

[ChaCho]

I hope so. I need to see Jericho get a tooth knocked out.

[jbailey84]

im loving how stretched this feud has been going :D

[chewie]

I like how this thread has been long running also. You don't see it that much anymore. I hope Jericho wins. He's one of a kind.

[ChaCho]

NO lol, HBK number 1

[ZombieMan]

Jericho is THE ****. He knows how to work this biz.

[jbailey84]

no doubt. i wouldnt mind seeing him feud with Punk for the title but probably not likely to happen

[chewie]

Unforgiven predictions

World Heavyweight Championship - Scramble Match
- CM Punk (c) vs. Batista vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kane vs. JBL.

WWE Championship - Scramble Match
- Triple H (c) vs. Jeff Hardy vs. MVP vs. WWE U.S. Champion Shelton Benjamin vs. The Brian Kendrick.

ECW Championship - Scramble Match
- Mark Henry (c) vs. Matt Hardy vs. The Miz vs. Chavo Guerrero vs. Finlay.

Unsanctioned Match
- Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho.

World Tag Team Championship Match
- Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase Jr. (c's) vs. Cryme Tyme.

WWE Divas Championship Match
- Michelle McCool (c) vs. Maryse.

[jbailey84]

Unforgiven predictions

World Heavyweight Championship - Scramble Match
- CM Punk (c) vs. Batista vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kane vs. JBL.

WWE Championship - Scramble Match
- Triple H (c) vs. Jeff Hardy vs. MVP vs. WWE U.S. Champion Shelton Benjamin vs. The Brian Kendrick.

ECW Championship - Scramble Match
- Mark Henry (c) vs. Matt Hardy vs. The Miz vs. Chavo Guerrero vs. Finlay.

Unsanctioned Match
- Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho.

World Tag Team Championship Match
- Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase Jr. (c's) vs. Cryme Tyme.

WWE Divas Championship Match
- Michelle McCool (c) vs. Maryse.

ditto

[chewie]

So Jericho is the champion now. Good. I don't know how long it will be for, but it's been a while. Should be an interesting night of RAW tomorrow.

[ChaCho]

That really killed the night for me (Apart from the fact that I hate Vickie Guerrero now more than ever, that Big Show will feel unbeareable pain) but the fact that I picture it like this. The "bosses" went to Jericho and told him, "OK, let HBK do whatever he wants to you, no matter how much it hurts, at the end of the night we'll give you the World Title". That just sucks. It was an interesting PPV, but to me, in a sense, Taker and HBK, both got screwed.

Edit: That is not even mentioning how they screwed Punk

[jbailey84]

so what exactly happend to CM Punk? im lost. its cool that Jericho is champ but I agree that Punk got screwed!! majorly!!

[chewie]

He got kicked in the head by Orton.

[Starwars411]

I really hope they have Jericho and Orton feud. Even though they are both heels, they would have some great promos. I'd even love to see them in an alliance.

Also, it's nice to see Matt Hardy as the ECW champ. He is definitely a hard worker and worked mid card pretty much his entire WWE career.

[ChaCho]

I know cool for Matt Hardy.

As for Punk, they took his belt in a "nice" way. They're gonna make it seem as though, OK, he lost it, but he will get to a chance to get it back, when he will most obviously won't.

Just saw that match between Rey and that new guy against Miz and Morrison. Yo, that new guy, DAMN he's impressive. That shooting star? Better than anyone's ever done it.

[saveus1011]

I really hope they have Jericho and Orton feud. Even though they are both heels, they would have some great promos. I'd even love to see them in an alliance.

Orton needs to be the anti-hero like Stone Cold was. This has so much potential to be another Rock/Austin feud.

[jbailey84]

which could work well :D

[SouthsideX300]

Anyone picking up that new TNA game? I know im not. IGN gave it a 6/10.

[ChaCho]

Don't really watch TNA

[Danny Rand]

I know cool for Matt Hardy.

As for Punk, they took his belt in a "nice" way. They're gonna make it seem as though, OK, he lost it, but he will get to a chance to get it back, when he will most obviously won't.

Just saw that match between Rey and that new guy against Miz and Morrison. Yo, that new guy, DAMN he's impressive. That shooting star? Better than anyone's ever done it.

the new guy is Matt Sydal do yourself a favor and youtube him. Dude is amazing

[chewie]

I saw a few of his ROH matches. Yeah, he's pretty good.

[jbailey84]

jake the snake apparently drunk or drugged at his latest match, and here is the outcome after the match

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYIpIMg8nu4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYIpIMg8nu4

[Starwars411]

I read about that, he's just a living, breathing trainwreck.

From what I read the match he "wrestled" in was only 30 seconds long because the other guy got pissed at him and just forcibly pinned him. Afterward, Jake was even more out of control and some of the wrestlers wanted kick his ass. He even pulled out his **** in front of the crowd.

[jbailey84]

yup, poor jake :( its a shame he cant keep it together

[ZombieMan]

Yeah, I feel sorry for the guy, honestly. Also, Sydal IS indeed a bad ass. :) Can't wait to see more of him in the WWE.

[ZombieMan]

I found this interview that my buddy Trevor Murdoch did. Check it out!!! This is Trevor out of character, so you can see how he really is, BTW...

http://www.luchalibreonline.tv/video/290101-llo-news-trevor-murdoch.html