Go WWE!

[Warhammer Zero]

Gee Wizz, the wrestling crew at SHH gets slimmer and slimmer every week.
I'm telling you, Sarge and Lobo (again) are next.

[Astronomic Forks]

I won't be going anywhere. I like to pop in and see what the CSers are talking about in this thread too. Cool buncha guys.

[Warhammer Zero]

I remember that one night where it was only you and me for RAW, AF.
It feels missing without more than 2 people.

[Astronomic Forks]

Yeah, it was a bit slow that night.

[chewie]

One thing though.
WWE NEEDS to do another DRAFT!
It should be a rule to do a draft every year, like they did years ago. I remember them doing at least 2 or 3 of them in a row.

I totally agree with you. The last draft they did a few June's ago was one of the best months of WWE in a long time.

[DOG LIPS]

A draft would rock some serious pantaloines. It's always nice when they shake it up a bit. Send Cena to ECW and stuff.

[Warhammer Zero]

Yeah, I'm TIRED of the same old people on RAW for 2 years.
Switch it up, and start random, new feuds.

Super Cena has literally only feuded with Edge, Orton, and Umaga for about 2 years.

[-HR-]

King Booker out
By Brett Hoffman
Written: April 7, 2007

Friday night was not a pleasant one for SmackDown’s resident royalty, King Booker. First, his majesty suffered a disappointing loss to Matt Hardy in one-on-one action, and later, his attempted ambush on Undertaker was thwarted in a big way when he was driven head first onto the announce table via a thunderous Tombstone Piledriver. As a result of the beating he received from the Deadman, King Booker suffered multiple injuries. WWE.com received the following update from World Wrestling Entertainment physician Dr. Rios on the King’s condition:

“As a result of the Tombstone from Undertaker on Friday night, King Booker suffered a sprain, and strained contusion of the neck,” said Dr. Rios.

WWE.com has also learned that while recovering from his encounter with the Phenom, King Booker will be treated for a previous chronic knee injury, where he has a meniscus tear, and a chronic elbow strain and sprain.

There is no timetable for the King’s recovery, but stay tuned to WWE.com for more information as it becomes available.

[-HR-]

Credit: PWInsider.com

Following the controversial interview with the Ottawa Sun last week, Carlito is said to have “nuclear heat” on him backstage. The initial reaction was to send him on a permanent vacation to Heat and let him fade away. Carlito even expected to be fired over the weekend. They probably won't let him go, but they certainly scared him off of saying much in future interviews.

Last week, Mike “The Miz” Mizanin was also paranoid about being fired. Apparently, someone backstage convinced him to do a major rib on JBL, who already hates Miz and has a well-known reputation as a bully. No more details about this one yet.

[Warhammer Zero]

King Booker out
By Brett Hoffman
Written: April 7, 2007

Friday night was not a pleasant one for SmackDown’s resident royalty, King Booker. First, his majesty suffered a disappointing loss to Matt Hardy in one-on-one action, and later, his attempted ambush on Undertaker was thwarted in a big way when he was driven head first onto the announce table via a thunderous Tombstone Piledriver. As a result of the beating he received from the Deadman, King Booker suffered multiple injuries. WWE.com received the following update from World Wrestling Entertainment physician Dr. Rios on the King’s condition:

“As a result of the Tombstone from Undertaker on Friday night, King Booker suffered a sprain, and strained contusion of the neck,” said Dr. Rios.

WWE.com has also learned that while recovering from his encounter with the Phenom, King Booker will be treated for a previous chronic knee injury, where he has a meniscus tear, and a chronic elbow strain and sprain.

There is no timetable for the King’s recovery, but stay tuned to WWE.com for more information as it becomes available.

Damn.
Booker is going to be out for a while. That is terrible news. :( :(

[-HR-]

- The reason King Booker was written off Smackdown last night by being Tombstoned on a table by WWE World champion The Undertaker is that he's been dealing with a knee issue for some time. He's going to undergo surgery to repair the problems and is expected back by late June at the latest. WWE is reporting on their website that he'll be out of action "indefinitely" due to the tombstone, which will be the storyline reason for his departure.

- OVW Diva Roni "Rockstar" Jonah, who doesn't have a WWE developmental contract as of yet, is asking for donations through her official website for breast implants. She is promising fans who donate to her "Diva Upgrade Fund" a scantily clad 8x10 photo once the procedure is done.

[Warhammer Zero]

Credit: PWInsider.com

Following the controversial interview with the Ottawa Sun last week, Carlito is said to have “nuclear heat” on him backstage. The initial reaction was to send him on a permanent vacation to Heat and let him fade away. Carlito even expected to be fired over the weekend. They probably won't let him go, but they certainly scared him off of saying much in future interviews.

Last week, Mike “The Miz” Mizanin was also paranoid about being fired. Apparently, someone backstage convinced him to do a major rib on JBL, who already hates Miz and has a well-known reputation as a bully. No more details about this one yet.

- Damn.
- Damn, Miz.

[Mister J]

The Booker news sucks. I thought he was getting in line for a high-profile feud. :(

How stupid is Miz and what did they slip into his orange juice in order to get him to think ribbing JBL was a good idea? :confused: :whatever:

[FVD]

Never liked Mizanin anyway. Get rid of him.

[Astronomic Forks]

Poor Booker :(

[jbailey84]

i seriously dont think that they'll get rid of Carlito. no way. how can you get rid of someone who made their TV debut on smackdown, beating John Cena for the U.S. Title then get drafted to Raw and beat whomever the IC Champ was. i agree with Carlito, MAKE HIM A HEEL!! Carlito is being so underused and underrated.

as for Booker T, yes it does suck that he'll be out for a while. i was really hoping to see him in Houston in front of his hometown at the Vengeance PPV, now that all 3 brands will be on the PPV's. maybe he'll return as the 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time WCW Champion gimmick.

[-HR-]

i seriously dont think that they'll get rid of Carlito. no way. how can you get rid of someone who made their TV debut on smackdown, beating John Cena for the U.S. Title then get drafted to Raw and beat whomever the IC Champ was. i agree with Carlito, MAKE HIM A HEEL!! Carlito is being so underused and underrated.

Yeah they won't fire him but he won't get a push anytime soon as there are plenty in line before him as he is an average worker,i do agree he needs to be a heel though

as for Booker T, yes it does suck that he'll be out for a while. i was really hoping to see him in Houston in front of his hometown at the Vengeance PPV, now that all 3 brands will be on the PPV's. maybe he'll return as the 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time WCW Champion gimmick.

i think he will return as King Booker,it's the most over he has ever been and he's awesome in the gimmick
He may be fit by Vengeance

[Mister J]

Carlito is much better as a heel. At least, get him to be a more obnoxious tweener. He's dragged ass in the ring for a while now. Sucks, because I thought he had some potential as an upper-card guy.

[Luke_Cage]

Never liked Mizanin anyway. Get rid of him.

Where's Sabre to read this? :(

[Luke_Cage]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9440/20070408mickieib6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:heart::heart:

[-HR-]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9440/20070408mickieib6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:heart::heart:

Kenny is such a lucky basteed:mad:

[Mister J]

Dear. Lord. :applaud:

[In§anE]

I'm home!

[Luke_Cage]

Assassin found his way here :o

[In§anE]

yesir

[Warhammer Zero]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9440/20070408mickieib6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:heart::heart:

A Dyke gets to grab that ass. :rolleyes:

[Warhammer Zero]

i seriously dont think that they'll get rid of Carlito. no way. how can you get rid of someone who made their TV debut on smackdown, beating John Cena for the U.S. Title then get drafted to Raw and beat whomever the IC Champ was. i agree with Carlito, MAKE HIM A HEEL!! Carlito is being so underused and underrated.

He needs to spit apples in people's faces again.

as for Booker T, yes it does suck that he'll be out for a while. i was really hoping to see him in Houston in front of his hometown at the Vengeance PPV, now that all 3 brands will be on the PPV's. maybe he'll return as the 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time, 5 time WCW Champion gimmick.

I agree with hunter with him continuing the King Booker gimmick.

[DOG LIPS]

A Dyke gets to grab that ass. :rolleyes:

Yeah, but I'm sure he giggles and gags when he does.

[Luke_Cage]

A Dyke gets to grab that ass. :rolleyes:

He doesn't deserve it :nono:

:mad:

[Astronomic Forks]

His last name alone makes him unworthy.

[Prognosticator]

Good luck closing this thread down! :up:


So if the Hype is still down tomorrow, will we all be meeting hear to chat wrestling and RAW?

[-HR-]

Just watched ECW from Tuesday,good show,did anyone notice in the segment with Timbaland that Layla is trying to lose her English accent ?

The main event was awesome,easily match of the week for me,all 8 guys were on and i noticed Monty yelled "Pounce....PERIOD" after he hit it this week,the finish from Burke was classic

[Warhammer Zero]

Good luck closing this thread down! :up:


So if the Hype is still down tomorrow, will we all be meeting hear to chat wrestling and RAW?

Yes sir. This will be my 3rd RAW (I think) at CS.
Too bad only 1 or 2 people are ever here when that happens.

Just watched ECW from Tuesday,good show,did anyone notice in the segment with Timbaland that Layla is trying to lose her English accent ?

The main event was awesome,easily match of the week for me,all 8 guys were on and i noticed Monty yelled "Pounce....PERIOD" after he hit it this week,the finish from Burke was classic

The main event was one of the best matches that I've seen on ECW, as well as one of the best in a while (RAW and Smackdown).

[Astronomic Forks]

Thanks for havin us in your wrestling thread CS. :)

[Starwars411]

So what's everyone's thoughts about tonight's main event: Shane vs. Lashley.

I figure it will end with a DQ on Lashley so that Shane won't become bald, and he won't lose the title.

All in all, it'll be a semi-good match.

[DOG LIPS]

I'm sure Umaga will come out. :mad:

[Starwars411]

That's what I was thinking. He'll probably attack Shane cause he slapped Estrada.

[chewie]

Not a bad episode of Raw. I like the way that Backlash is turning out so far.

[Prognosticator]

So what's everyone's thoughts about tonight's main event: Shane vs. Lashley.

I figure it will end with a DQ on Lashley so that Shane won't become bald, and he won't lose the title.

All in all, it'll be a semi-good match.

At first I was excited b/c Shane is a PIMP, but it wasn't what I wanted to see. Overall the RAW was okay. It had some good moments, like the Divas match. (did i just say that?!?)

HBK was kind of awkward last night, especially after his eye got 'sliced open'...

I wonder what they'll do w/ECW tonight?

[KingMizfit]

CM punk heel turn. Wow. Monty Brown beating RVD...double wow. Two surprises for me.

[Prognosticator]

I still don't know what to think of Punk's "decision"...but it'll be interesting to follow up on in the weeks to come.

[jbailey84]

i went to the show Raw brand show in Mannheim, Germany last night and here are the results. Not a bad show.

WWE IC Champion Santino Marella defeated Chris Masters
Super Crazy & Val Venis defeated Kenny Dykstra & Daniel Rodimer
WWE Women's Champion Melina defeated Mickie James
Carlito defeated Kevin Thorne in a Raw Vs ECW Match
CM Punk defeated Snitsky
WWE Raw Tag Team Champions Matt & Jeff Hardy defeated Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch
Johnny Nitro defeated Ric Flair
ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley defeated Umaga in a Wrestlemania Rematch
WWE World Champion John Cena defeated Edge & Shawn Michaels in a Triple Threat Match

There was an intermission after the Tag Titles match. Maria came out to the ring, throwing the Wrestlemania Revenge Europe Tour Shirts to the crowd. Victoria came down to the ring, was about to Widow's Peak Maria till Eugene's music hit and saved Maria.

Biggest Pops
Cena/HBK
Carlito
Flair
Lashly/CM Punk

Biggest Heat
Snitsky
Nitro
Umaga


Alot of cheers for Masters for his entrance. Santino Marella pretty much got no reaction. HUGE Carlito chant when his music played & during the match. Some cheers for Edge. And of course, a VERY mix reaction for Cena.

Orton WAS supposed to be on the card, but once I got home I read that he was sent home early due to trashing a hotel room either in Italy or the night before in Munich.

[Astronomic Forks]

Why can't Orton just behave?

[DOG LIPS]

Maybe he's trying to get fired.

Or the magic roids have taken over his brain.

[Astronomic Forks]

Orton ain't juicin :mad:

[DOG LIPS]

Well, he sure as hell ain't orange juicin', so somethin's up. :mad:

[Carnage Escobar]

Just got through watching Raw and man, that Cena/HBK rematch was one of THE best damn matches I've ever seen. Infinately superior to their Wrestlemania 23 main event IMO. Can't wait for Backlash. Now I'm gonna go watch Star Wars. Bye.

[chewie]

That match lasted somewhere in the neighborhood of an hour. They definitely did a good thing by letting HBK get the win.

[jbailey84]

damn.

why cant all the main events be like that?

well this is how the house show ended in the triple threat Cena/HBK/Edge match that MIGHT be the outcome for Backlash

Cena FU's Edge, HBK Sweet Chins Cena, HBK falls out of the ring, Cena lands back on Edge winning

[jbailey84]

well here are my picks for tonights ppv Backlash

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Edge vs. Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels* (Fatal Four Way Match)

ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley vs. Mr. McMahon, Shane McMahon & Umaga* (3-on-1 Handicap Match)

World Heavyweight Champion Undertaker* vs. Batista (Last Man Standing Match)

World Tag Team Champions The Hardys* vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch

United States Champion Chris Benoit* vs. MVP

Women's Champion Melina vs. Mickie James*

after monday, Shawn deserves the title.

[chewie]

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Edge* vs. Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels (Fatal Four Way Match)

ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley* vs. Mr. McMahon, Shane McMahon & Umaga (3-on-1 Handicap Match)

World Heavyweight Champion Undertaker* vs. Batista (Last Man Standing Match)

World Tag Team Champions The Hardys* vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch

United States Champion Chris Benoit* vs. MVP

Women's Champion Melina* vs. Mickie James

I think this is the match that Cena will lose his title.

[SouthsideX300]

Is anyone as sick as i am with cena as champ? seriously there has not been a more dominant Face Champion since hulk hogan in the 80's.

[chillinvillin]

im so happy mcmahon has the ecw title. wwe couldnt get any better

[ilovecandace]

Is anyone as sick as i am with cena as champ? seriously there has not been a more dominant Face Champion since hulk hogan in the 80's.

i am very tired of it ... i wouldnt mind seeing edge win or even orton cena has been champ now for what 21 months out of 25 ? its crap hell i woulndt mind seeing kennedy as champ ,.....i loved the taker batista match great ending

[chewie]

well this is how the house show ended in the triple threat Cena/HBK/Edge match that MIGHT be the outcome for Backlash

Cena FU's Edge, HBK Sweet Chins Cena, HBK falls out of the ring, Cena lands back on Edge winning

You pretty much nailed the finish.

[ilovecandace]

well imma going t raw tonight in nashville i'm wanderin if randle is going to be the there AKA randy orton i hope toinghts show is good

[jbailey84]

3-3 for my picks

interesting that Khali is on Raw. is Kennedy on Raw too or just jumping around?

[KingMizfit]

im so happy mcmahon has the ecw title. wwe couldnt get any better


Even with RVD getting the first crack at it? LOL.

[jbailey84]

i think with Vince as ECW Champ, ECW has OFFICIALLY been buried.

[Jr-CSI]

ECW was buried long long ago WWE all the way baby

[KingMizfit]

While I won't defend the decision to give vince the strap...I would like to point out that those who thought the Originals would get crapped on at Mania and beyond were WRONG. In fact...I kind of like that they are playing with the fact that "vince killed ECW" and now he has to deal with the originals. People who were said to be "not important" are now getting respect and props in ECW and yet ya'll still complain. LOL...it's cool though, cuz in some respects...I can't blame ya....but I do think they are aware of the public perception and are smart for bringing it into this "angle".
RVD gets a title shot....and I'm not carlito...but that my friends...is cool.

[jbailey84]

well i read this on some various sites and here's probably the reason why Mr. Kennedy gave up his briefcase for now :/

It is believed that Mr. Kennedy suffered a triceps injury over the weekend. No other details have come out regarding the injury, but it appears to be significant. Batista went down with a similar injury early last year and was out for about six months.

[HaDoKen]

Guys....This is for everyone

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/ken3000ad/8279481_90c74d2e78_m.jpg

Whatcha Gonna Do When The Hulkmania Runs Wild On You

[jbailey84]

http://members.tripod.com/zoned/images/onefinger.jpg

Open a big can of whoop-ass on Hulkamania!! Oh give me a Hell Yea!!

[filmstudent04]

Well here's some news...kennedy drops the money in the bank because he tore his triceps...edge may or may not be going over to smackdown to cash in his money in the bank this smackdown after Taker drops the belt to batista...then also what is more likely is that Batista vs Mark Henry cuz Henry hurt Batista while back...Shawn Michaels getting hurt i can only see that as him wanting his time off and will take it and then come back possibly when HHH comes back? When they do, i really really hope they dont break up DX with another feud with hhh and hbk that would be jsut lammmmme...also..is anyone else seein that they're trying to make Cena the new Hogan?

[chewie]

They should treat the Money in the Bank briefcase like a title this year and have it change hands many times with Mr. Kennedy winning it when he comes back.

[Starwars411]

Well, after reading the spoilers for Smackdown, Edge cashed in the MIITB and is the new World Champ.

The cage match ended with both Batista and Undetaker hitting the floor at the exact same time causing a draw. Henry came out and attacked Taker and then Edge came out and pinned Taker after a spear.

[Jr-CSI]

The Great Khali is a monster, unstopable..........if hulk was still around he'd kick his ass into next week.....

Give me a hell yea for HULKAMANIA.....what you gonna do when jr-CSI runs wild on you...lol

WWE forever.......

[FranklinTard]

this thread makes me sad...

[HaDoKen]

The Great Khali is a monster, unstopable..........if hulk was still around he'd kick his ass into next week.....

Give me a hell yea for HULKAMANIA.....what you gonna do when jr-CSI runs wild on you...lol

WWE forever.......

throw a freestyle rap

[jbailey84]

Well, after reading the spoilers for Smackdown, Edge cashed in the MIITB and is the new World Champ.

The cage match ended with both Batista and Undetaker hitting the floor at the exact same time causing a draw. Henry came out and attacked Taker and then Edge came out and pinned Taker after a spear. im happy that Edge won the belt BUT not a repeat of how he won it the first time. but oh well. im hoping that MAYBE Khali will win at JD. i love looking at the crowd in the backround just going nuts each time he destroys Cena and holds the title over his head.

[DangerMouse]

I've missed RAW two weeks in a row.

Did I actually miss anything important? Sounds like Kahli is Cena's new foe?

[chewie]

I'm happy they went back to having multi-brands on PPV's and not only just one brand. The make for better shows.

[Wolverine]

I'm sorry to say this but I hope Cena beats Khali at Judgement Day. Now Here me out true I may hate John Cena but to make somebody as the Great Khali Champion when the guy can't even speak a word of English in his role is not good business. You can't market a guy that doesn't speak a lick of English as Champion.

[Starwars411]

Maybe Khali could win at Judgement Day, but lose the title the next night to Cena.

[carnage4u]

The only thing i Hope Khali wins is a heat attack.

His complete lack of talent makes umaga look good. and thats not a good thing.

[FranklinTard]

are you guys the 30th row champions? you guys bring your belts to the shows? this thread is so sad....

[jbailey84]

the hell is 30th row champions? i dont bring my belt. the only one i have is the WWF Hardcore Championship. yea i said wwF, SUE ME!!

all of our regulars have gone away. yea its sad but its not a dud like ECW, ooh ouch ;)

[Wolverine]

are you guys the 30th row champions? you guys bring your belts to the shows? this thread is so sad....

Dude WTF are you talking about.

[jbailey84]

well looks like Mr. Kennedy's injury isnt that serious. he'll be out for 6-8 weeks, thank god. wouldnt mind seeing a Kennedy Vs Edge feud for the World Title

[chewie]

Edge vs Batista. I don't think they'd give the belt to Edge just to have Batista win it a few weeks later. But it's the WWE.

[carnage4u]

Mr Kennedy is always good at what he does. I hope when he comes back, they build him up for the title. Even if it is a longer wait like next wresltemania.

[FranklinTard]

why is this considered a "sport"


lets be honest guys... its not.

[chewie]

It's not a sport. It's not like they show Smackdown highlights on SportsCenter.

[HaDoKen]

Its sports entertainment. Like The Rock he was the most electrifying man in sports entertainment

[FranklinTard]

says the sheep...

[jbailey84]

here are my picks for Judgment Day

WWE Champion John Cena* vs. The Great Khali

World Heavyweight Champion Edge* vs. Batista

ECW World Champion Mr. McMahon, Shane McMahon & Umaga vs. Bobby Lashley* (3-on-1 Handicap Rematch)

2-out-of-3 Falls Match - US Champion Chris Benoit vs. MVP*

Elijah Burke* vs. CM Punk

Shawn Michaels vs. Randy Orton*

Carlito* vs. Ric Flair

[chewie]

WWE Championship Match
- John Cena (c) vs. The Great Khali.

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- Edge (c) vs. Batista.

ECW Championship - 3 on 1 Handicap Match
- Vince McMahon (c), Shane McMahon & Umaga vs. Bobby Lashley.

WWE United States Championship - 2 out of 3 Falls Match
- Chris Benoit (c) vs. MVP.

- Shawn Michaels vs. Randy Orton.

- Ric Flair vs. Carlito.

- CM Punk vs. Elijah Burke.

[Starwars411]

OMG! They'll sell anything to make money.

http://shopzone.wwe.com/Product_detail.asp?cat=cat-newreleases&productId=02-00523

[Carnage Escobar]

Strange photo I found:


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s269/EnigmaticV/extras/Tiffany758.jpg

[jbailey84]

you KNOW thats yours ;)

ECW One Night Stand looks.....terrible.

[chillinvillin]

*** yea it looks terrible. ITS ALL ***IN HORRIBLE. im not gonna pay for that crap. itll probably end 35 minutes early like D2D

[chewie]

I haven't bought a PPV since Wrestlemania XX and even then a bunch of us chipped in. None of my friends like wrestling at all and it will be a cold day in hell before i pay 40-50 bucks on the WWE, especially with cards like One Night Stand.

[chewie]

Bobby Strouss sent this in: Just wanted to pass along another quick note on the 3 Hour Raw special coming up on June 11. On the USA Network website the listing on June 11 at 8pm has the 3 hour special listed as "Raw Presents: The WWE Draft Special" so not only does it seem that all nine titles will be on the line, but it also seems that we see the return of the Draft Lottery.

Note from Adam Martin: You can see this description by looking at the schedule on the USA Network website at this link. So, it appears WWE is bringing back the Draft Lottery after skipping it last year. Whether or not the show will carry the "Night of Champions" format still remains to be seen as one report has stated that is being saved for the Vengeance PPV on June 24.

[jbailey84]

sweet!! i'll be at Vengeance!!

[chillinvillin]

RVD & SABU TO TNA. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF wwf

[jbailey84]

heres a video clip of the Ultimate Warrior going off on some guy at a sports convention.

http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/specials.php?subaction=showfull&id=1180191474&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&

[SouthsideX300]

lol nothing like sheik going nuts on the warrior.

The draft is this coming monday, only lock so far is benoit to raw. Should be intresting to see who else goes where.

[chewie]

I'm kind of anxious to see if they are going to do a new format since it's a 3 hour show or if they are going to do it the same as in the past.

[jbailey84]

well on wwe.com you can vote certain wrestlers on the main page of who you want to see go where.

[jbailey84]

i think Carlito might be going back to SD. he and MVP can have a good feud.

tonight on Raw, Cena Vs Edge will kick off the show.

i hope they'll add some more matches for Vengeance. only one is announced, Edge Vs Batista.

[chewie]

Carlito going to smackdown would make sense. If he doesn't go, then I hope Ric Flair does. I can see Batista maybe coming to Raw.

[Starwars411]

Wow, seems like WWE is going Sopranos.

Go to www.wwe.com. Weird stuff.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

the moments before the explosion seemed awkward.

[Wolverine]

Yeah they kept on Draggin it out I was shocked when it happend.

[jbailey84]

i had a gut feeling that Mr. Kennedy was going to Raw but didnt think that they would so he and Edge could feud for the title but oh well.

[SouthsideX300]

oh my god, vince is dead!!!!

[chewie]

I didn't understand why they would bring Snitsky to Raw. Boogeyman and Benoit going to ECW makes sense.

[DangerMouse]

I expected The Undertaker to go to RAW.

ALso, the Snitzky thing makes no sense to me as well. I wonder if its his last shot before getting the heave-ho. I'm starting to get the idea that they'll use ECW as a "developmental league" sort of place where a guy could work on his schtick before testing the deep waters of RAW or SD.

[Steve from Indy]

OMG, I can't believe Ric Flair is still wraslin'! :omg:

[chewie]

I know what you mean. I think he won his first world title before I was born.

[chewie]

I finally saw Vince get blown up and it was one of the stupidist things they have done and that's saying something. The WWE is trying way too hard to make headlines. What are they going to say when he shows up on TV again since they are really trying to sell the angle. You know he will be on TV again.

[jbailey84]

Mr. Kennedy is scheduled to wrestle this monday on Raw. i have a feeling he'll get himself in the main event for Vengeance. be cool if they made it into an Elimination Chamber. IF he gets into the main event.

[chewie]

Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE Hall of famer, Sherri Russell, known to wrestling fans as "Sensational Sherri", passed away this morning at her home. She was 49 years of age.

Police is said to be at her home with her husband. There are no details on the cause of death.

[jbailey84]

read that this morning before work.

R.I.P Sherri :(

[judomaster]

my condolenses to sherri's family

[JokerNick]

what the heck is going on with vince,..... lol...

[chewie]

a very bad idea, that's what.

[ChaCho]

I have been working for a while and im only catching glimpses of both RAW and Smackdown, i dont watch ECW, to me is dead. but im a little lost. they had a draft done through computer? lashley lost the title? hes in raw? HBK is out? vince is dead? and Taker died too? whats going on?

[judomaster]

a very bad idea, that's what.
agreed thats why i dropped the wwe again its worse in view of the real life passing of sensational sherri
accordingly,i'm now unsubscribing from this thread

[carnage4u]

the benefit of the angle, is everyone in my has stopped watching wreslting. I uusually take a break during the summer due to something that annoys me, but my roomates, that usually watch it no matter what crap is on, have acctually got so annoyed they stopped as well.. More free time on mondays to do other things now..

thanks vince for the free time.

[jbailey84]

went to Vengeance last night. lots of fun but let down with the outcome of only ONE title change and that Benoit was unable to attend. we weren't informed of that.

before the PPV, there was a dark match between Carlito Vs Super Crazy. Crazy won. then all the announcers made their way down to the ring. during the PPV, the techs people were having "fans" fill in the empty seats where the main center camera focus's on. i guess that gives the meaning of "sold out". but the arena was literally 97% full.

there was a camera man right in front of my dad and i. we were in section 106, ROW ONE. hopefully we got on camera :D

the experience i give a 9/10 because my section was full of drunks and smartasses lol. but the PPV itself, 4/10, could have been better....way better.

[DangerMouse]

What happened?

[sandman441]

Chris Benoit and family found dead

WWE STAR CHRIS BENOIT, HIS WIFE AND FAMILY FOUND DEAD IN ATLANTA
by Mike Johnson @ 6:04:00 PM on 6/25/2007

We are still awaiting further details, but PWInsider.com is extremely saddened to report that former WWE and WCW World champion Chris Benoit and his wife, former WCW and ECW personality Nancy "Woman" Benoit were both found dead today in Atlanta, Georgia. Obviously this will be a huge developing story in the days to come but at this point, we'd like to express our deepest condolences to the Benoit's family, friends, and fans at this time.

A meeting is currently ongoing at WWE TV and it is expected that tonight's three hour Raw will now be dedicated to Benoit's memory.

6:09 Update: WWE.com issued the following statement this afternoon, also announcing that the Benoits' family (the couple had two children, although if it was them has not been confirmed) were also found dead:

"WWE is sad to report that Chris Benoit and his family have been found dead in their home. Police are currently investigating the circumstances surrounding the deaths. Tonight's Raw will be a tribute to Chris and his family."

[Oliver Queen]

R.I.P Chris you will truly be missed

now you can be with Eddie again

[chewie]

Chris Benoit was one of the best in ring performers around. He always had good matches. Sorry to see him go.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

im in complete shock :(

RIP Chris

[Starwars411]

Not only was he and his wife found dead, but so was their son, Daniel. His other two sons were supposedly in Canada during the time.

[carnage4u]

wow.. holy crap. that is sad. and sucks..

raw started off right, and mcman did the right thing the way it started..

[Rogue]

Oh, this totally sucks. :( He will be missed. God, it was bad enough when it was just him but his family too? So sad. RIP, Benoits, RIP. :(

[MrT]

Rip

[DangerMouse]

Sounds like the Atlanta police may rule this a double homicide/suicide.

[jbailey84]

yea i am still in shock....cant get over that fact that this has happend.

R.I.P. Benoit. thank you for all the great matches.

[Wolverine]

AYETTEVILLE, Ga. (CNN) -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and their seven-year-old son, Daniel, were found dead Monday at their metro Atlanta home, according to Fayette County authorities.

"We're viewing it at the moment as a murder-suicide," said Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard. "The sheriff's office has already very thoroughly investigated and, with the crime lab, will continue to investigate and I'm quite confident, in a few days, we'll have a lot more answers than we have right now."

Benoit's employer, the WWE, called the sheriff's department after the wrestler missed two appointments over the weekend, including a pay-per-view event in Houston.

The WWE mourned Benoit, 40, on its Web site, hailing him as one of the great champions of professional wrestling.

"The sports-entertainment world has truly suffered a loss with his passing, as one of the all-time greats was taken well before his time."

Nicknamed the "Rabid Wolverine," the native of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, held various individual and tag-team titles during his 22-year wrestling career.

In his biography on the WWE Web site, Benoit is quoted as saying: "Wrestling has consumed my life ... It's my mistress, my passion. It defines a lot of who I am as a person."

Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriffs Office said preliminary autopsy results are expected Tuesday afternoon, with toxicology results due on Wednesday. (Posted 12:20 a.m.)

[Darth Maul]

man i really cant believe hes gone

RIP

[FVD]

Goddammit I can't believe what I'm reading. I'm in absolute shock over this. RIP Benoit. Thank you for all that you have given to the world of Professional Wrestling. :(

Benoit was no doubt my favourite wrestler. Can't believe he's gone. :(

[filmstudent04]

Anyone else in shock that the police are suspecting that he killed his wife and kid? I mean what the heck is that all about? And now that mcmahon has broken his character, what does that lead the storylines to?

[Carnage Escobar]

Anyone else in shock that the police are suspecting that he killed his wife and kid?

I'm not. Cops have and will always be completely full of s**t. Do you guys really think that a good man and a respected wrestler like Chris Benoit would kill his wife AND his 7-year old son? Please.


Anyway, this really is seriously f**ked up. All the tragedies in wrestling seem to happen when we least expect it. For shame, for shame.


You'll definately be missed Chris. R.I.P

[MrT]

This still is a total shock to me. Back when I watched wrestling, Benoit was one of my favorites. And to see this truly saddens me.

RIP

[teewee1432]

I am very shocked by this and I for one don't believe that he killed them. it has to be some other reason. This is a total loss to the wresling world especially since he was gonna be ecw champ on sunday. wow what a loss.

RIP, chris

[iv3rdawG]

Rip

[JokerNick]

RIP to his wife and child....

I'm going to wait to comment about him untill the police report comes out...

[Ewok Droppings]

I'm not. Cops have and will always be completely full of s**t. Do you guys really think that a good man and a respected wrestler like Chris Benoit would kill his wife AND his 7-year old son?

Yes - and it looks like that's exactly what happened. Guess you can't blame everything on the cops.

[JokerNick]

I'm not. Cops have and will always be completely full of s**t. Do you guys really think that a good man and a respected wrestler like Chris Benoit would kill his wife AND his 7-year old son? Please.


Anyway, this really is seriously f**ked up. All the tragedies in wrestling seem to happen when we least expect it. For shame, for shame.


You'll definately be missed Chris. R.I.P

good man??? did you know the guy?? according to who??? some wrestlers on TV?? that's a brotherhood, they rarely talk bad of one another...

plus, you never know what the Benoit could have been on... rumor has it that his wife told him that their child really wasn't theirs... I know it's just a rumor, but if some guy hears something like that, who knows what he is capable of doing.... plus, many of these guys are on steriods... mix that in with some booze... that equals trouble...

[jbailey84]

Anyone else in shock that the police are suspecting that he killed his wife and kid? I mean what the heck is that all about? And now that mcmahon has broken his character, what does that lead the storylines to?
we are all in shock. well its about time McMahon HAD to break out of character which was the whole point of the exploding limo to "kill" Mr. McMahon but from the 2 previous deaths now, he had to do something and do something right.

[Carnage Escobar]

Yes - and it looks like that's exactly what happened. Guess you can't blame everything on the cops.

Yeah, well I'll believe it was a double murder-suicide when it's confirmed and 100% true. So far, it's nothing but rumors and speculation.


good man??? did you know the guy?? according to who??? some wrestlers on TV?? that's a brotherhood, they rarely talk bad of one another...

plus, you never know what the Benoit could have been on... rumor has it that his wife told him that their child really wasn't theirs... I know it's just a rumor, but if some guy hears something like that, who knows what he is capable of doing.... plus, many of these guys are on steriods... mix that in with some booze... that equals trouble...


Somehow I seriously doubt that Benoit was on steroids. But hey, anything is possible.

[JokerNick]

Somehow I seriously doubt that Benoit was on steroids. But hey, anything is possible.

all those guys are on stuff... may not be Steriods exactly, but testostorone boosters, or even something like andro.... I've been on the last two mentioned, and trust me, you can't control yourself somedays.....

but either way, they are pretty much saying, he killed his wife and son, then killed himself... it's a tragedy, and is sad, but, if it does turn out to be true, that this guys killed his 7 year old son, i'm sorry, but that whole memorial service last night should be forgotten... a child killer desrves no sympathy (if done in the manner suggested)....

if it turns out he did kill them, and it was because of his wife cheating, or child not being his, or whatever... he deserves no RIP, or sympathy....

but, if it turns out to be something else, like he was murdered, or even his wife killed him, I take back what I said...

[Ewok Droppings]

Yeah, well I'll believe it was a double murder-suicide when it's confirmed and 100% true. So far, it's nothing but rumors and speculation.

Well, I think it's been confirmed by the police dept. at this time. It's unfortunate, but true. RIP

[Oliver Queen]

man if it's true I'm totally shocked and really disgusted heh

I've met him twice and he was really nice granted that was only for a bit but still

[chewie]

plus, you never know what the Benoit could have been on... rumor has it that his wife told him that their child really wasn't theirs.

I don't know. From the graphic of the three of them they were showing during the show last night his son looked a lot like him from what I could tell. Hopefully all the facts will be released even though it's apparent what happened here.
At the time last night the WWE did a classy thing by cancelling the show and it was about time.

[JokerNick]

I don't know. From the graphic of the three of them they were showing during the show last night his son looked a lot like him from what I could tell. Hopefully all the facts will be released even though it's apparent what happened here.
At the time last night the WWE did a classy thing by cancelling the show and it was about time.


look on the bright side all you WWE fans... the vince is dead storyline is over with now..............

[JokerNick]

as much as I appreciated that vince ended that stupid storyline... something about yesterday doesn't sit right... yes, he's dead... but, he's a murderer.... you never saw Ambrosia Chocolate have a memorial service for Jeff Dalmer...

[Rogue]

It's sad enough they died, I just can't believe it was in this manner. What a damn shame.

[DangerMouse]

I dont know where this whole "told him his son wasn't his" stuff came from, but that's 100% made up.

That little boy looks like a miniature Chris Benoit and is the spitting image of his dad.

You gotta wonder if Vince needs to write some sort of story lines in for his veterans as a way for them to take a vacation. It's my understanding these guys maybe have a total of 20 days off a year.

If a guy like Benoit snapped, I wonder what the h*ll is going on with some of the other guys on the roster.

[JokerNick]

^that's it right there man... these guys are over worked, over tired, pulled away from their families,... they need to be given space, even it mean 3 months off a year...

[insaneMoViEgoer]

as much as I appreciated that vince ended that stupid storyline... something about yesterday doesn't sit right... yes, he's dead... but, he's a murderer.... you never saw Ambrosia Chocolate have a memorial service for Jeff Dalmer...

at the time they didnt know the causes, it happened just a few hours before they went on air.

[jbailey84]

well it was a form of steroids

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19424899/?GT1=10056

[JokerNick]

at the time they didnt know the causes, it happened just a few hours before they went on air.


which I understand.... but, I got feeling that they might feel it was a mistake to do that, atleast in that fashion... you had Stephanie on there going on about how he loved his family.... apparently that wasn't the case 100%...

and whoever above said it wasn't steriods, well, it was.... roid rage, never felt the direct effects of steriods, being on testosterone boosters, I can tell you that they really can make it easy to loose your temper... but, still no excuse... and just another reason why, taking those is the dumbest thing possible to do...

[Darth Maul]

Man this is heavy, for some reason I just cant comprehend all this. Its unbelievable. Not that I am saying this isn't what happened, but its hard to take in.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Benoit press conference briefing with gruesome details


By Alex Marvez

Email: alex@wrestlingobserver.com.

Here are details from a law enforcement news conference held Tuesday afternoon regarding what is now ruled as a double homicide/suicide involving Chris Benoit, wife Nancy and seven-year-old son Daniel in their Atlanta-area home:

X: Fayette (Ga.) County district attorney Scott Ballard said law enforcement officials believe Benoit killed his wife Nancy on Friday night via affixation, then did the same to Daniel on Saturday morning before hanging himself Saturday night.

X: Ballard said Nancy Sullivan’s wrists and feet were bound with tape and that there was some blood under her head. Ballard said Sullivan was found in an upstairs living room area. Daniel Benoit was found dead in his own bed in his upstairs bedroom. A bible was placed next to the body of Nancy and Daniel.

X: Benoit hung himself with a cord in his basement weight room.

X: Anabolic steroids and what was described by one law-enforcement official as “lots” of what is believed legal prescription medication were found in the house. A complete list of medications may be given to the media at a later date.

X: A WWE “co-worker” [believed Chavo Guerrero] received a text message on a delayed basis from Benoit. Officials declined to elaborate on what information the messages contained.

X: Benoit was previously arrested in the Atlanta area on a DUI charge but has no record of a previous arrest for domestic violence.

X: There was no suicide note left inside the house.

X: “In a community like this, it’s bizarre to have a murder/suicide, especially involving the death of a seven-year-old child,” Mallard said. “That’s what struck me the most in all this: There’s a seven- year-old little boy who’s dead. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to wrap my mind around that completely.”

“It struck me as somewhat bizarre that he would even be in the home with their deceased bodies all that time … I’m baffled why anyone would kill a seven year old. I don’t have any idea at all about a motive.”

X: Keep checking wreslingobserver.com for more details as they are available.

[RedVader 2004]

I know nothing but is it possible someone else killed his family and hanged benoit to make it look the way it did a murder sucide. I'm not saying he didn't do it but he left no suicide note we knew of. I just wonder if benoit came home and saw then dea and hung his self in grief as well.

[Rogue]

Asphyxiation is the word you're looking for. Affixation is not a medical diagnosis.

[DangerMouse]

I haven't looked yet, but the WWE has apparently taken down virtually everything related to Benoit.

I smell another federal investigation....espeically now that murder is involved.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

I haven't looked yet, but the WWE has apparently taken down virtually everything related to Benoit.

I smell another federal investigation....espeically now that murder is involved.

they took down all the tributes. all they have is this statement:


WWE® Shocked At Latest Developments In Benoit Tragedy, Concerned By Sensationalistic Reporting
Written: June 26, 2007

STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities

[FranklinTard]

so i have a question, benoit may have been a scumbag there in the end, but how much weight did it really take for him to kill himself? cuz it says he used a weight machine, and call me crazy but his neck looked the size of a tree trunk, so i was guessing at the least 300 lbs....



too soon?

[jbailey84]

well he hung himself with a weight cable, i assume. anything to snap the neck and cut off the air circulation. damn Benoit, why?

[slinger]

Oh yes! What a ****ing awesome ending!

Eddie and Benoit are hugging and crying in the ring! Confetti!
Sharpshooter on HHH, Crossface on HHH! I didn't think he would win... oh that was a damn good PPV!

And now that memory is tarnished. 100s more.

I just don't see them ever showing that clip anymore. Maybe a brief one that doesn't show Benoit too much.

I found out about his death 20 minutes before RAW started. With the scant details I watched the show. The last WWE program I watched from start to finish was the Eddie Tribute. I've watched moments here and there and couldn't believe some of the stuff going on. Half the roster I'm not familiar with. But anyway, I watched the 3 hour tribute. It was entertaining, it brought back a flood of memories and then after it was over I read the murder-suicide info.

Then this morning's news. Now any thoughts about Benoit are numb. Good on Regal for his comments.

[jbailey84]

what were Regal's comments? i missed RAW because we went to Sea World here in San Antonio and didnt care about the whole Mr. McMahon serivce thing that is was supposed to be at the time.

[JokerNick]

^youtube my friend....


McMahon again, has lost my respect... that statment about how it can't be roid rage... it is not their place to say anything, and the way, they jumped out saying it sin't riods, makes you wonder... not the first time he's (vince) been in trouble of roids....

[A+]

Was anything said about the Vince not actually being dead issue, or did he just appear on screen and say a few words about Benoit? I've tried to find anything online to explain this but seen nothing.

I did however find an article by Debra (former Mrs Stone Cold) talking about steroids in wrestling and spouse abuse, and her regrets at not speaking out about this before and how she hopes there'll be a real investigation into this sort of thing in the WWE. It was quite an eye opener.

[FranklinTard]

why are all the sports shows asking the question should wrestling be regulated? its ludicrous, wrestling needs destroyed/exterminated not regulated.

[Rogue]

The whole strange text messages mystery strikes me as odd. Why send text messages with your address over and over again? I don't know, it just doesn't add up to me.

[DangerMouse]

The whole strange text messages mystery strikes me as odd. Why send text messages with your address over and over again? I don't know, it just doesn't add up to me.

Reports are saying this was to make sure someone would come and find the bodies. Not only did he leave his home address, but also said the dogs were locked in the pool area and the door to the garage was unlocked.

Basically making sure someone would come and find them.

[bbf2]

Was anything said about the Vince not actually being dead issue, or did he just appear on screen and say a few words about Benoit? I've tried to find anything online to explain this but seen nothing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99qbk21-9IA

I don't understand the whole steroid thing. Why is there so much pressure to use steroids in a "sport" where the outcome is already determined? There's no pressure to compete and to win!
I can understand it in baseball or football or something, there's huge pressure on you to win. Why is it so rampant among this group of actors? I mean I guess they want to LOOK buff, but then why wouldn't there be a huge problem among action movie actors or something?

[jbailey84]

Was anything said about the Vince not actually being dead issue, or did he just appear on screen and say a few words about Benoit? I've tried to find anything online to explain this but seen nothing.

the thing with Vince was fiction. just part of the show.
with Benoit, fact. not part of the show.

[SnoBorderZero]

They discussed this in length on PTI today. The fact Vince is basically avoiding any speculation of steroids is absurd. They brought up a stat that said I believe over 60 wrestlers have died before the age of 45. Wow.

[EvilDeadNDN]

To say it wasnt steroid related is totally close-minded.

Granted, it shows that it may have not been out of rage (with the bibles, etc) but steroids can wreck you emotionally.

massive depression is also a side effect of steriod use and abuse, even from previous cycles. The fact that he tested clean in april doesnt mean a thing either simply because A) He couldve started a new cycle afterwards, and the fact he was on testosterone boosters could mask it and B) I wouldnt trust the WWE's word on anything of the topic.

Im not justifying what beniot did, but I do believe the motives stem from stress with his sons debililation, family issues other than that, and the fact that he was a pro-wrestler. they live an extremely lonely life at times. I believe this and the previous and/or current use of steriods made him do this. Its really just sad. Im sorry for his whole family.

and people may never really know what he was going through too.

[Steve from Indy]

Wrestling needs to be shut down until it can be cleaned up. Far too many wrestlers are dying at a young age. Anyone who doesn't believe that steroid abuse is rampant, is simply deceiving themselves. And Vince McMahon (amongst others) probably needs to serve some prison time.

[Rogue]

From people.com

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20044130,00.html



THURSDAY JUNE 28, 2007 09:00 PM EDT

Benoit's Web Bio Gets a Chilling Update

Somebody altered Chris Benoit's entry in Wikipedia to mention his wife's death – before her body was found.

The Web bio was changed early Monday to say the pro wrestler missed a match over the weekend because his wife had died. Hours later, authorities found the bodies of the World Wrestling Entertainment star, his wife and their 7-year-old son.

Cary Bass of Wikipedia traced the alteration to somebody using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., the home base of World Wrestling Entertainment, according to the Associated Press.

An IP address, however, doesn't have to be broadcast from its registration location. Bass said it was unknown where the posting was sent from, the AP reports.

The bodies were found in the family's suburban Atlanta home. Authorities say Benoit asphyxiated his wife Nancy and their son Daniel before hanging himself.


----
And it just keeps getting weirder....

[Darth Maul]

From people.com

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20044130,00.html



THURSDAY JUNE 28, 2007 09:00 PM EDT

Benoit's Web Bio Gets a Chilling Update

Somebody altered Chris Benoit's entry in Wikipedia to mention his wife's death – before her body was found.

The Web bio was changed early Monday to say the pro wrestler missed a match over the weekend because his wife had died. Hours later, authorities found the bodies of the World Wrestling Entertainment star, his wife and their 7-year-old son.

Cary Bass of Wikipedia traced the alteration to somebody using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., the home base of World Wrestling Entertainment, according to the Associated Press.

An IP address, however, doesn't have to be broadcast from its registration location. Bass said it was unknown where the posting was sent from, the AP reports.

The bodies were found in the family's suburban Atlanta home. Authorities say Benoit asphyxiated his wife Nancy and their son Daniel before hanging himself.


----
And it just keeps getting weirder....

wtf

[JokerNick]

I'm done with WWE... this whole Vince McMahon stuff, with him coming out saying "it's not steriods" is just disguisting...... how does he know? was he there? to come out and say this right away, makes it seem like he has something to hide... and that whole Wikipedia artilce.... that is very bizzare... wondering if WWE knew before hand, then it spread through the office, and someone went to wikipedia for whatever reason (idiot, or to let people know, i.e. the autherities)....

[FVD]

What's making me angry is all these morons jumping on the I Hate Chris Benoit because he is a Murderer bandwagon. Sure it's a horrible tragedy but still I look back at what he gave to the industry. I noticed the other night that the Tribute show was removed internationally and been replaced with some Championship matches.

I'm starting to wonder about Kurt Angle and his decision to join TNA. The endless bumps and bruises sustained night after night must really take it's toll. With all these recent deaths it does make me think that the WWE could use an overhaul. A lot of wrestlers not getting a well deserved break etc. It's pretty awful really. Vince could learn a thing or two from TNA. But I doubt it.

I missed a lot of WWE viewing over the past month or two and I'm kinda glad I never saw this Death of Mr McMahon angle actually. Sounds kinda lame if you ask me.

[jbailey84]

the death of mr.mcmahon is the dumbest idea WWE has EVER done.

on a wrestling note, Cena is possibly working for a new movie which means, he HAS to drop the title!! atleast i hope

[ilovecandace]

it was stupid im glad they are done with that angle at least i hope they r
.. for cena with theblt i hate it with a passion ...

[JokerNick]

What's making me angry is all these morons jumping on the I Hate Chris Benoit because he is a Murderer bandwagon.



that makes no sense, whatsoever...... Jeff Dalmer for instance... no one disliked this man, untill after he murdered people,... same goes for Bundy..... Benoit was a good wrestler, but he is, in fact, a freaking coward that should be forgotten... he killed his wife, and his 7 year old kid... he's a monster, no matter what drug he was on, or how depressed he was... there was, and is no excuse for his actions... then, he killed himself because he couldn't live with his decissions... again, signs of a coward...

news is coming out, that he used basically the crippler cross face, to kill his son... just put that thought through your head... and tell he there is no reason to hate this man.....

[HotBoy]

To say it wasnt steroid related is totally close-minded.

Granted, it shows that it may have not been out of rage (with the bibles, etc) but steroids can wreck you emotionally.

massive depression is also a side effect of steriod use and abuse, even from previous cycles. The fact that he tested clean in april doesnt mean a thing either simply because A) He couldve started a new cycle afterwards, and the fact he was on testosterone boosters could mask it and B) I wouldnt trust the WWE's word on anything of the topic.

Im not justifying what beniot did, but I do believe the motives stem from stress with his sons debililation, family issues other than that, and the fact that he was a pro-wrestler. they live an extremely lonely life at times. I believe this and the previous and/or current use of steriods made him do this. Its really just sad. Im sorry for his whole family.

and people may never really know what he was going through too.I agree with you 100%.

Also, (and this isn't an excuse for what Benoit did), when you mentioned him having manic depression, could it also have something to do with the death of Eddie Guererro? I mean, they were very good friends for almost 2 decades. Chris Benoit may have still been trying to deal with that.

Now, onto these other questions: who turned Benoit onto the doctor who gave him annabolic steroids in the first place? And why are the Feds involved with this case?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Great Khali is the new World Heavyweight Champion, the World title must be cursed.

[jbailey84]

lol you beat me to it!!

We are able to confirm that Edge, who was forced to drop the WWE World Heavyweight Championship at tonight’s SmackDown tapings, will undergo surgery to repair his torn pectoral muscle that he suffered during the taping of last week’s edition of SmackDown from New Orleans, Louisiana.

Edge is expected to be out of action for four months. That being said, his return could happen some time in November.


to find out who the new champ is, click spoiler in above post.

[chewie]

The World Heavyweight Championship is cursed. What's the over/under on time for the new champ getting hurt?

[jbailey84]

seems like a month

[insaneMoViEgoer]

let's just hope Khali gets injured.

[Darth Maul]

ya in the face o wait

[jbailey84]

guess we'll find out after the GAB OR a month.

that sucks because i really like Edge as champ. i still think they should have kept Mr. Kennedy on SD! so he and Edge can feud.

[jbailey84]

my picks for tonights Great American Bash ppv

WWE Champion John Cena* vs. Bobby Lashley

World Heavyweight Champion The Great Khali vs. Batista vs. Kane* - Triple Threat Match

ECW World Champion John Morrison vs. CM Punk*

Intercontinental Champion Umaga* vs. Jeff Hardy

Women's Champion Candice Michelle vs. Melina*

Dusty Rhodes vs. Randy Orton* (Texas Bull Rope Match)

United States Champion MVP* vs. Matt Hardy

Sandman vs. Carlito*

Cruiserweight Open *Jimmy Yang*

[ilovecandace]

im soooo pissed at the wwe now........ i mean come on...... they teased a hhh return last night with "king" booker and all that crap and didnt do it....and everyone friggin retained

[carnage4u]

look at the smackdown world champ. YES they are retarded.


might as well get some celebrity world champs next. we are down to that level in wrestling again.

[jbailey84]

maybe Jonny Knoxville? ;)

[insaneMoViEgoer]

maybe Jonny Knoxville? ;)

or David Arquette's triumphant return!?!? :P

[judomaster]

or jessica simpson as womens champion?

[JokerNick]

WWE needs HHH to come back now.....

who think the whole Booker T thing, will set up his return.... The King of Kings will destroy that ugly eye bulging thing....

[jbailey84]

its been revealed that he will return at Summer Slam and with Booker T coming out that he his the only king, definately sets up a match.

i cant wait for Orton/Cena though.

[JokerNick]

its been revealed that he will return at Summer Slam and with Booker T coming out that he his the only king, definately sets up a match.

i cant wait for Orton/Cena though.


yeah... didn't they play HHH return promo when Booker was talking one of these past weeks?

I guess, rumor has it... that the WWE wants Orton to be champ now... Cena is getting booed by many people, so they are going to give it to a heal... then, when HHH comes back, we will eventually face Orton....

Behold, the King, of Kings.....

[jbailey84]

i just hope they dont screw Orton out of the title....again.

he won the title at Summer Slam '04 from Benoit, and had the belt for just a month losing it to who? yup you guessed it, HHH. HHH & Orton should feud over the belt and have Orton lose it at Survivor Series atleast.

[JokerNick]

I could see HHH vs Orton for Wrestlemannia

[jbailey84]

my dad bought Vengeance and we found ourselves on it!!

http://a717.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_166043ccb58913a41def8cd5ec2b1ba4.jpg

im right there where the WWE logo is and thats my dad!! so awesome :D

its right after the Chavo/Yang match at the 32 minute mark i believe.

[chewie]

It's always cool to see yourself on TV, etc. I hope you were happy with your performance on the screen.

[Starwars411]

I have a feeling that HHH might show up tonight because of the King vs. King match. It'll set up his match with Booker at Summerslam.

EDIT: Guess I was wrong. Lol.

[chewie]

I was thinking the same thing.

[FVD]

Ever since the Benoit fiasco I haven't even watched any wrestling since. I don't know if I even want to watch any WWE again actually. Well it's gonna take some time. I'm not feeling emotional or anything. It's just that....I don't really know actually. :confused:

[judomaster]

FVD try watching TNA on spike tv thursdays 9pm-10 pm
that might be more to your likeing

[jbailey84]

Ever since the Benoit fiasco I haven't even watched any wrestling since. I don't know if I even want to watch any WWE again actually. Well it's gonna take some time. I'm not feeling emotional or anything. It's just that....I don't really know actually. :confused:
well its a good thing the NFL pre-season is coming up ;)

ever since November 2003, when i moved from texas to here, germany, i havent watched wrestling as much as i used too.

ive actually been watching alot of boxing and the UFC.

[FVD]

FVD try watching TNA on spike tv thursdays 9pm-10 pm
that might be more to your likeing

That may be so considering the fact that my country doesn't get Spike TV. But thanks for your concern anyway. ;)

[jbailey84]

where you live at again?

[JokerNick]

rumor has it... HHH will have a pretaped speach for next weeks RAW.. it will happen when King Booker is out, giving Lawler crap... Triple H will challenge King Booker to a match at Summerslam.....

[judomaster]

That may be so considering the fact that my country doesn't get Spike TV. But thanks for your concern anyway. ;)
you're welcome have you tried the world combat league?

[FVD]

where you live at again?

Middle Earth, NZ, Aotearoa, The Land of the Long White Cloud. ;)

Auckland (Tamaki Makau Rau in Maori)

you're welcome have you tried the world combat league?

Hmm can't say I have, man.

[judomaster]

give it a try you'll like it

[jbailey84]

yea i thought it was middle earth errr i mean NZ ;)

[SouthsideX300]

Jeff hardy Suspended for being an idiot and is off summerslam.

Also, HHH is rumored Not to appear before summerslam.

[JokerNick]

Jeff hardy Suspended for being an idiot and is off summerslam.

Also, HHH is rumored Not to appear before summerslam.


actually... he is... not in person... but in a way for him to communicate with king booker...

i'm thinking a letter challenging him...

[JokerNick]

Meanwhile, PWInsider is reporting that he is expected to make his return at the August 13 Monday Night Raw taping at Madison Square Garden.

[FVD]

I was flicking between channels and decided to watch Raw, Smackdown and also Heat for the first time. Damn NZ's cable is so pale in comparison to Australia. Anyway....

When the hell did The Great Khali become champion. He obviously must have defeated the Undertaker. Can't say I'll see Batista beat the big doofus but I bet that may happen.

And I just learned that Brian Adams aka Crush has passed away. Dammit these wrestlers are falling like flies. Adams kicked ass in the ring. Loved his tag team Kronik with Bryan Clarke too. Would have also liked to have seen how things would have progressed had he continue the Kiss Demon gimmick too. Dammit these wrestlers are falling like flies. Oh, I said that already. ;)

[jbailey84]

Taker of course won the title at WM 23 but after a month, sustained an injury and Edge jumped to SD(won the Money in the Bank from Mr. Kennedy) and won the belt. About a month later, Edge sustaines an injury and a 20-Man Battle Royal takes place, thus Khali wins.

yea thats sad about Crush :( 43 years old.

[jbailey84]

from rajah.com

Several comic book news websites are reporting that WWE superstar Triple H being considered for the lead role in upcoming "Thor" movie. The Marvel Comics superhero is based on the mythological god of thunder and war.

Unfortunately for Triple H, there is one major obstacle in his way. Director Matthew Vaughn is not happy that a pro wrestler is being considered for the lead role in his biggest project to date. He addressed the rumor of Triple H's involvement in a recent interview. "I'll give you two reasons I dont put much stock in the otherwise very interesting rumor - "Chris" and "Benoit". With wrestling taking its biggest PR hit ever, I would be incredibly surprised if Marvel were to take that big of a risk with Thor."

The Thor character is a comic book superhero and the mythological god of thunder and war. The movie is scheduled for a 2009 release. It is being produced by Marvel Entertainment and will be distributed by Paramount Pictures.

[FVD]

I agree with Matthew Vaughn. Triple H shouldn't be Thor. There are better choices out there. And Karl Urban is NOT one of them. :nono:

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

well its a good thing the NFL pre-season is coming up ;)

ever since November 2003, when i moved from texas to here, germany, i havent watched wrestling as much as i used too.

ive actually been watching alot of boxing and the UFC.

Why, because the NFL is full of upstanding citizens? Michael Vick,Pacman Jones, The ENTIRE roster of the Cincinnati Bengals?
One very emotionally disturbed guy flips out and does the unspeakable like Benoit and all of a sudden EVERY wrestler is a tragedy waiting to happen? I'm not blind, I know there are definitely big problems w/ the WWE and the pro-wrestling landscape in general...rampant drug and steroid use,domestic abuse...the truth of the matter is that these things all happen in every other form of sports & entertainment, but because wrestling has the stigma of being overly violent, and is an easy target for talk show and news show host's w/ nothing better to report, so they rant endlessly about how this is all connected. There isn't enough information on the effects of steroids to determine whether what happened w/ Benoit was the direct cause of steroid use or "roid rage" or if it was depression, personal problems....it seems the deaths of these wrestlers, while many may be drug related are not as similar and clear cut as they are reported to be.

[jbailey84]

calm dooooooowwwnnnnnnnnn. did I mention anything about Benoit? Nope. just saying atleast the NFL Pre-Season is starting. and now a days, thats all everyone is comparting wrestling to, Benoit.

[Starwars411]

I can't for Summerslam this Sunday cause HHH is coming back. I just know when he steps out of the curtains, the arena is gonna go ballistic.

[kev123]

I still like to watch wrestling bu its starting to get so predictable am kinda goin off it

[chewie]

Since when has wrestling not been predictable?

[Agent Deadpool]

Im hoping that King Booker wins at Summerslam. Though my head is telling me there is no way Trips is not going over

[chewie]

Summerslam predictions

WWE Championship Match
- John Cena (c) vs. Randy Orton.

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- The Great Khali (c) vs. Batista.

ECW Championship Match
- John Morrison (c) vs. CM Punk.

- Triple H vs. King Booker.

- Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero.

- Kane vs. Finlay.

WWE Intercontinental Championship - Triple Threat
- Umaga (c) vs. Mr. Kennedy vs. Carlito.

Divas Battle Royal - Winner Earns Women's Title Shot
- Mickie James

[jbailey84]

WWE Championship Match
- John Cena (c) vs. Randy Orton*

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- The Great Khali (c)* vs. Batista

ECW Championship Match
- John Morrison (c) vs. CM Punk*

- Triple H* vs. King Booker

- Rey Mysterio* vs. Chavo Guerrero

- Kane* vs. Finlay

WWE Intercontinental Championship - Triple Threat
- Umaga (c) vs. Mr. Kennedy* vs. Carlito

Divas Battle Royal - Winner Earns Women's Title Shot
- Mickie James

[Starwars411]

Rey looked like a ghetto version of the Silver Surfer.

[Ramplate]

Doctor describes Benoit brain injury By HARRY R. WEBER, Associated Press Writer
40 minutes ago



ATLANTA - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit suffered brain damage from his years in the ring that could help explain why he killed his wife, son and himself, a doctor who studied Benoit's brain said Wednesday.

The analysis by doctors affiliated with the Sports Legacy Institute suggests repeated concussions could have contributed to the killings at Benoit's suburban Atlanta home.

The wrestler's father, Michael Benoit, told reporters Wednesday that he knows his son had concussions because his son told him so. But he also said he knows of no medical records or records kept by the wrestling league to support the diagnosis.

Steroid use also has lingered as a theory behind the killings, since anabolic steroids were found in Chris Benoit's home and tests conducted by authorities showed Benoit had roughly 10 times the normal level of testosterone in his system when he died.

The institute, which researches the long-term effects of concussions, coordinated the testing using samples of Benoit's brain tissue provided by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

The Waltham, Mass.-based institute's president is former pro wrestler Christopher Nowinski, who has said he had to quit the ring after a kick to the head. Nowinski still has ties with World Wrestling Entertainment Inc., which runs the league he and Benoit were in.

A lawyer for Stamford, Conn.-based WWE did not immediately return a call Wednesday seeking comment. The company has maintained steroid use did not cause Benoit to snap.

Despite the results of the institute's tests, there was no way to know if Benoit's concussions contributed to the murder-suicide, said Dr. Robert Cantu, a member of the institute who also is chief of neurosurgery service at Emerson Hospital in Concord, Mass.

"Whether it is the sole factor I believe is speculation and I will not go there," Cantu said by phone.

The level of brain damage Benoit had can cause depression and irrational behavior, Cantu said.

Benoit's brain showed the same degenerative processes that doctors working for the institute found in the brains of three men who had played pro football and committed suicide, Cantu said. There were abnormal protein deposits caused by trauma to Benoit's brain, Cantu said.

There's no evidence that steroid use causes such protein deposits, Cantu said, though he noted the issue has not been exhaustively studied.

Investigators allowed the institute to test Benoit's brain tissue with the permission of his father, who lives near Edmonton in Ardrossan, Alberta.

Michael Benoit said Wednesday that he agreed to the testing because murder-suicide was out of character for his son. He also disclosed that after the killings, he discovered a diary written by his son that showed his son was having problems.

"After reading the diary, I would have thought it was written by someone who was extremely disturbed at the time," Michael Benoit said.

He did not elaborate, but he did say a friend told him that prior to the murder-suicide, Chris Benoit had been wearing a rosary, which he said was also out of character.

"I think it's the extreme that is in the wrestling industry today," he told reporters. "The human skull is not built to get hit by a chair or something."

The father said he has not discussed with his attorney whether to take any legal action against the WWE or anyone else in the case. His attorney, Cary Ichter, said that at a later time he "will give thoughtful consideration" to appropriate steps to take in the "legal arena."

Nowinski said concussions can happen in pro wrestling even though many of the moves are staged.

"I got four concussions in three years as a professional wrestler," said Nowinski, who works for the WWE on its initiative to encourage young people to vote. "A lot of concussions happen from mistakes."

Prosecutors have said Benoit, 40, strangled his wife with a cord, used a choke hold to strangle his 7-year-old son, placed Bibles next to the bodies and hanged himself on a piece of exercise equipment the weekend of June 22.

Authorities have said Benoit's personal doctor, Phil Astin, prescribed a 10-month supply of anabolic steroids to Benoit every three to four weeks between May 2006 and May 2007. Astin has pleaded not guilty to federal charges of improperly prescribing painkillers and other drugs to two patients other than Benoit.

[Starwars411]

10 WWE wrestlers have also been suspended for violating the Wellness Program.

Couple people I know that got suspended were Umaga and John Morrison, which is why they lost their titles this week.

The other names haven't been confirmed.

Eugene and Cryme Time were released this week as well, but it was because of the steroid issue.

[Starwars411]

Booker T has reportedly quit the WWE. This is rumors at the moment, but could be true because he was part of the 10 wrestlers suspended, but he received the longest suspension of the wrestlers (60 days) because it was the second time he had broke the rules on the Wellness Program. He has lately said that he could care less about the WWE and wouldn't think twice about quitting.

[chewie]

Predictions


WWE Championship Match
- John Cena (c) vs. Randy Orton.

World Heavyweight Championship - Triple Threat
- The Great Khali (c) vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Batista.

ECW Championship Match
- CM Punk (c) vs. Elijah Burke.

- Triple H vs. Carlito.

- The Undertaker vs. Mark Henry.

World Tag Team Championship Match
- Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch (c's) vs. Paul London & Brian Kendrick.

WWE Tag Team Championship Match
- MVP & Matt Hardy (c's) vs. Deuce & Domino.

WWE Women's Championship Match
- Candice Michelle (c) vs. Beth Phoenix.

[jbailey84]

WWE Championship Match
- John Cena (c) vs. Randy Orton*

World Heavyweight Championship - Triple Threat
- The Great Khali (c)* vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Batista

ECW Championship Match
- CM Punk (c)* vs. Elijah Burke

- Triple H* vs. Carlito

- The Undertaker* vs. Mark Henry

World Tag Team Championship Match
- Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch (c's) vs. Paul London & Brian Kendrick*

WWE Tag Team Championship Match
- MVP & Matt Hardy (c's) vs. Deuce & Domino

WWE Women's Championship Match
- Candice Michelle (c) vs. Beth Phoenix*

[jbailey84]

Return of Jericho??

from rajah.com

Last night on RAW, WWE aired a very strange and cryptical video clip. The clip shows blue text scrolling on a black screen - very similar to the green scrolling text from the movie "The Matrix". Text is constantly flashing on the screen and it's hard to make out exactly what to make of the clip.

The video has been posted online and by pausing the clip at certain spots, several "clues" can be made out:

- The phrase "SAVE_US.222" flashes several times and is the focus of the video

- Some of the frames show what looks like computer code containing the names of current and past WWE shows. It appears to be the "video paths" used by WWE's production software.

- Now, let the speculation begin. There is a "3-2-1" countdown that flashes quickly. One of the phrases that shows up a few times is "cd_volume4_1.act". On WWE's CD "WWE The Music: Volume 4", Track 1 is the theme music of .. Chris Jericho. With that in mind, the clip is somewhat similar to Chris Jericho's old entrance video.

- The phrase "7OCT" is repeated over and over on one frame. October 7th is the date of WWE's next PPV, No Mercy.

I hope so!! :D

[HotBoy]

It has been a long while since I've been on this particular thread, so I'm a little out of the loop!

What exactly is the Wellness Program?

[jbailey84]

WWE Wrestlers get randomly checked (pee test/whatever test) for drugs/steriods/anything illeagal.

i think first strike they get 30 Day Suspension and something done with pay. second strike 60 day suspension and something done with pay.
and third: fired.

thats what it seems to be like with the punishment.

[HotBoy]

WWE Wrestlers get randomly checked (pee test/whatever test) for drugs/steriods/anything illeagal.

i think first strike they get 30 Day Suspension and something done with pay. second strike 60 day suspension and something done with pay.
and third: fired.

thats what it seems to be like with the punishment.

And that's what happened to Cryme Tyme?

[jbailey84]

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

As reported on the site earlier, Cryme Tyme was fired by WWE after the 9/1 RAW house show. While we were aware some kind of backstage altercation with Cade & Murdoch was involved after the two teams' match, details were sketchy until now.

Apparently, there was a problem laying out the match backstage, and a comment was made clear by either Cade or Murdoch that whatever the problem, maybe it will be settled in the ring. Then during the actual bout, Jason Paul (JTG) found himself outside the ring for a regular spot they do, but ended up being counted out. One version of the story is that the tag champs told the ref ahead of time they were keeping JTG outside the ring as a rib because of the backstage chat before the match. However, Cryme Tyme ended up attacking the ref, and while they weren't shooting, they were said to have gone too hard on him, even giving him the G9 (their double-team finishing move) which didn't sit well with anyone as the ref wasn't a wrestler, nor was he trained to take bumps and could have ended up seriously hurt. They took his belt off and threw it into the stands. Keep in mind none of this was scripted or planned.

Apparently, the scuffle continued backstage, as Cryme Tyme belittled the ref to the point it created a scene and John Cena had to break it up and tell them to leave the guy alone. Then they yelled at Barry Windham who produced the match, as they felt he should take the blame for double-crossing them. Windham stood his ground and reported the ref did the count-out finish because it was simply a count-out situation and WWE refs are taught to react in real time to matches these days, so JTG shouldn't have spent so much time outside the ring. Surely upon hearing all this, having in mind the firing mode he's been in, Vince McMahon didn't last long before he let the two go.

As we reported previous, Shad wrote after these events that WWE is a "family" and he knows he'll be back some day.

[chewie]

I knew it had to be something bad like that because they were starting to finally get over decent with the crowd.

[DangerMouse]

Getting back to Jericho, I'll be happy if he comes back, but IMO he is the single most misused talent on the WWE roster.

He is pound for pound the best wrestler in the business.

He's one of the best choreographers in the business as well. I still count the 4 team tag-team LTC match on RAW about 4 years ago as the single best RAW match I've ever seen.

And with The Rock out of the WWE, there's not a wrestler in the business that can touch him on the Mic.

But somehow Vince seemed to think he couldn't market him?

So in a way, I'm almost sad to see him return because I don't think he'll be used to his full potential....again.

[RedVader 2004]

Is Stone Cold doing another wwe released movie if so what is it. Also do you think we would ever see a Rock/Stone Cold paring in a movie or dare i say Rock, Austin and HHH.

[ChaCho]

havent been on the thread since Undertaker left, but now that he came back, im back. first thing ive read that has caught my attention is the Jericho thing. can he come back? i did see him being active in wwe.com for a couple of times, but nothing else. i thought he quit so he could dedicate himself to his music? it will be really cool to have him back.

^ i wouldnt like to see Rock, Austin and HHH in a movie, that would just be goofy.

Any of yall noticed that John Cena has been WWE Champion for more than a year? and hes battled a whos whos in WWE, not for nothing, but John Cena is gonna be one of those wrestlers we gonna say in the same sentence as Flair, Rock, Austin, HHH, HBK, Undertaker being one of the best of all time, plus i dont know if yall noticed but that man is an extremely hard worker, plus i notice here yall dont bagger him like you all used to back in the day.

speaking of HBK, anyone know when he and RVD are coming back? those two are needed.

[RedVader 2004]

Ah no we won't Cena is way overrated as is Batista. Its why i tune out so much they don't have stars like you mentioned anymore. Cena couldn't clean Austins bear bottles in my opinion.

[chewie]

Cena is way better in the ring than he used to be.