Go WWE!

[carnage4u]

if tna wasnt worse crap then the wwe i would
sad state of wrestling atm.

[RedVader 2004]

What angle are they going for to Fire Jim Ross. Did he really retire or was this a story plot where we haven't seen tha last of Ross. Maybe the rest of the Board who works with Linda will vote for a new ceo. Maybe good ole jr will have the last laugh. I hope Austin gets then back real good.

[Rogue]

if tna wasnt worse crap then the wwe i would
sad state of wrestling atm.


TNA is a lot better than WWE at the moment. AND I get Jeff Hardy. :D

[ilovecandace]

raw just sucked i mean really sucked last night i mean comeon .......u got what u wanyed coming back to usa ....now push everything to the limits

[carnage4u]

i have yet to see a tna show i have ever enjoyed. I have also not seen a wwe show i enjoyed in a while..

monday nights are becoming open and free for other things. so i guess thats cool.

[RedVader 2004]

To be Honest i would like to see wcw back or ecw back on either friday or a Monday Night. Vince has really shown boring story lines and Raw isn't hard core like it once was with Foley and Al Snow. WCW and ECW brought us the great japanese and lucha wrestlers like Ray Mysterio, The Ultimate Dragon. I miss great over the top matches. Raw is a great show but i'd rather have more wrestling less Vince and Bischoff.
Who would you guys like to see replace J.R. I would like to see Foley, Piper or the Macho man be the third man on raw. Or atleast replace coach. Simpley because two pro dirty announcers just don't work.

[Warren]

TNA is a lot better than WWE at the moment. AND I get Jeff Hardy. :D

God I hate that sloppy, drugged up bastard. ;)



I don't see the problem with watching both, though.

TNA may be miles better, but there's still Angle/Benoit/Michaels/Guerrero/Mysterio getting pushed and tons of talent in the lower card . I mean, if the workers were allowed to wrestle how they want, the WWE Cruiserweight division could be as good as the X Division. The talent is definitely there. They have London, the Mexicools, Nunzio, Brian "Spanky" Kendrick, James "Noble" Gibson, Matt Hardy (although he's too popular for the division at this point), CM Punk, Mike "Simon Dean/Nova" Bucci, Funaki (to a lesser extent) and more.

[onelegasy]

- WWE'S DOUBLE CROSS ON UFC
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - by Ivan Trembow

You've more than likely heard the story by now. Vince McMahon offered a huge announcing contract to Mike Goldberg, who has been the UFC's play-by-play man for many years. The multi-year WWE contract that was offered to Goldberg had a total value of more than $1 million over the life of the contract, and it was offered to Goldberg partially as an attempt by WWE to hurt the UFC, and partially because WWE already planned to fire its own long-time play-by-play man, Jim Ross, due to the fact that Ross has Bell's Palsy and is not as physically "attractive" as WWE would like. Goldberg seriously considered WWE's offer, before ultimately re-signing with the UFC.

However, there is more to the story, and these additional details shine a bright light on just how dirty Vince McMahon's business tactics can be when he thinks of himself as being "at war" with another organization. Vince McMahon's original plan was to secretly sign Mike Goldberg before the WWE vs. UFC showdown on October 3rd, and then have Mike Goldberg no-show the UFC event without notice, according to a report by the Wrestling Observer.

If McMahon's plan had gone as he hoped, the UFC would not have heard from Mike Goldberg at all on October 3rd, and would not even have known where he was. Goldberg would have no-showed the UFC event, and Zuffa would have found out that Goldberg had signed with WWE by seeing him appear on live television as the lead announcer of WWE Raw on USA Network that same night.

By doing this, Vince McMahon would have not only signed Mike Goldberg away from the UFC, but he would have left the UFC with literally zero notice to find someone to do play-by-play on the UFC's live broadcast on Spike TV. And while this detail wasn't part of the Observer's report, sources tell MMAWeekly that WWE was ready and willing to pay Mike Goldberg a one-time bonus in the high five-figures (possibly even as much as $100,000) simply for the act of no-showing the UFC event without notice in order to sign with WWE.

So, why didn't the double-cross take place as Vince McMahon wanted it to? Quite simply, because not everyone thinks like Vince McMahon does, and Mike Goldberg is a decent human being who wouldn't do something like that. As the Observer reported, "The only reason it didn't go down as planned by McMahon is because Goldberg was professional enough to refuse to no-show the UFC event."

Not only did Goldberg refuse to double-cross the UFC by no-showing the October 3rd event without notice, but when he arrived in Las Vegas for the UFC event on October 3rd, he told Zuffa about the double-cross offer that had been made by WWE.

At that point, with Goldberg fulfilling his play-by-play duties on the UFC's October 3rd Spike TV show, while also missing the October 7th UFC pay-per-view because of a previous committment, Goldberg would spend much of the next week trying to decide whether he was going to sign with WWE or re-sign with the UFC, and he eventually decided to re-sign with the UFC.

Promotional tactics like this are nothing new from Vince McMahon, as numerous pro wrestling promoters from the 1980's and 1990's could tell you. When McMahon views himself as being in competition with an organization, he will do anything to hurt that organization. The Observer report on McMahon's offer to Mike Goldberg stated that WWE deemed it to be extremely important to "send a message to its competitors and get the paranoid mind games advantage."

The Observer also reported that despite Vince McMahon's long history of doing these kinds of things, Zuffa was completely naive about it and didn't think such a thing could happen to them. The Observer reports that the whole experience with the Goldberg double-cross offer from WWE was "a major eye-opening for the UFC, as those in the company had largely believed it was bullet-proof from McMahon's direct business attacks because of the difference in the product."

In reality, if Vince McMahon thinks he's at war with you, then he's at war with you, regardless of whether you're running a pro wrestling company or an MMA company. Further evidence of WWE aggressively going after the UFC was the fact that the "WWE Homecoming" special re-aired on USA Network last Friday night at 10:00 PM, not-so-coincidentally head-to-head with the UFC's pay-per-view.

In the process of finding someone to do play-by-play for the October 7th UFC show, Zuffa kept Craig Hummer's name very quiet because it was widely believed in both the pro wrestling and MMA industries that WWE would have offered Hummer a very large amount of money (likely well into five-figures) not even to work for WWE, but simply to no-show the UFC's pay-per-view without notice. Hummer did the UFC pay-per-view as scheduled on Friday night, so either WWE couldn't get in touch with him on Friday, or they did get in touch with him but he turned down their offer.

[RedVader 2004]

After the firing of good ole J.R i hope TNA gets as big as WCW was and really make Vince Sweat. The way the fire Jim Ross shows how much he respects his employees and how little he cares about his wrestlers. He doesn't hold a candle to Vince Senior. I hope Shane McMahon does a better job when he takes over.

[onelegasy]

Maybe we get to see Shane back in the ring when Vince steps down.

TNA will never get as big as WCW. Ever.

As long as Jarret books himself to be in the title picture, the product lacks.

[RedVader 2004]

Who do you guys think should replace good ole JR for I don't think The Coach and Lawler work really. Maybe Micheal Cole and The Coach , I just don't think two pro dirty wrestler announcers work.
So who would you want to replace good old JR.
Shane McMahon.
Mick Foley.
Rick Flair.
Roddy Piper.
Dusty Rhodes.
Stone Cold.
Jessie Ventura.
Rob Van Dam.
I personally would like to see a new broadcast team of Piper and Mick Foley.

[onelegasy]

Well, the only combo's that would work with Lawler would be
Foley - Lawler
Austin - Lawler

Any other combo is ridiculous

[chewie]

It would be hard to imagine Foley or Austin as a lead announcer for RAW.

[onelegasy]

I know. But we are talking about people that could work with Lawler.

[RedVader 2004]

This just in Jim Ross according to wwe. com has been hospitalized for colon surgery. So there may have been a secret health reason why he was let go. With th wwe you never know. Also my point about a new announcer was Lawler is great but the coach isn't. My choice would be Foley or Austin to replace J.R.

Has anyone heard that Eric Bishoff is rumored to be replaced by a Legend.

[DangerMouse]

We could very well see "The King" make a psuedo "face turn" as far as announce style go and he and Coach end up being the RAW announce team after all.

This would be pretty weird as normally the "color/pro-heel" guy is the ex-wrestler while the "play by play/pro-face" guy is not.

I can't see The Coach going face as he was a "heel" even when they tried to push him as a "face".

[RedVader 2004]

Lawler is a heel but not as bad as he use to be. That why Mick Foley or a barand new announce team should be made. The Coach and THE king just don't sound like Wrestlemania coloaber announce team. Lawler yes The Couch no. Now Austin and Foley would make a great team. Remember Hennan and Gorialla Monsoon were both wrestlers.

[slinger]

The rumour was they were going to let go of King and have The Coach replace him since he would be cheaper. But RAW is just a carwreck and I can't help but watch at times, but not for awhile.

[HotBoy]

Lawler is a heel but not as bad as he use to be. That why Mick Foley or a barand new announce team should be made. The Coach and THE king just don't sound like Wrestlemania coloaber announce team. Lawler yes The Couch no. Now Austin and Foley would make a great team. Remember Hennan and Gorialla Monsoon were both wrestlers.I agree, but I'll tell you who a better announce team(and arguably, the best was) in the business: Gorilla Monsoon, and Jesse "The Body" Ventura!!!

[HotBoy]

Here's the interview from Linda McMahon after Raw:

"For the first time in recent memory, the McMahon family stood united inside a WWE ring after Linda delivered a swift kick to Jim Ross' groin. With the newly-fired J.R. doubled over in pain, the McMahons hugged and celebrated, signifying that they are all on the same page - something that has been quite rare in recent years. WWE.com caught up with Linda McMahon to get her reactions on Monday's happenings.

WWE.com: J.R. did apologize to you, why did you fire him anyways?
Linda McMahon: There comes a time in a person’s life when they have to make a decision. They have to choose sides, and I have finally chosen my family. My family has always been first with me, and always will be. It’s not a perfect family. I’m well aware of the flaws in my husband’s character. I’m aware that our family is not the normal, average, American family, but it is my family. And I’m the matriarch of this family. And anyone who’s against my family, such as Jim Ross, or anyone else, is against me. That’s why I made the decision to do what I did on RAW. As much as I have respected Mr. Ross over the years, Mr. Ross disrespected my family.

WWE.com: Does this mean the McMahon family will have a more visible presence in WWE from this point forward?
Linda McMahon: I can’t speak for my entire family as to what their desires are, but I can speak for myself, and I’ve waited far too long in the wings and allowed certain things to occur that I do not approve of. It’s time that I step forward and show the world the kind of business person that I can be. Last night was only the beginning.

WWE.com: What can we expect next?
Linda McMahon: I intend to be far more assertive in my views, and believe me, I am all business. And in business, one must be, as my husband as said many times, ruthless. You must be goal-oriented, and achieve your goals at any cost. That is the essence of the capitalistic society in which we live.

WWE.com: Was there anything that J.R. could have done to save his job last night?
Linda McMahon: He could have apologized sincerely to my husband and to my daughter. It doesn’t matter that he apologized for me being Stunned. He didn’t apologize to my family. I’m sad to say, but J.R. got what was coming to him. And there’s more J.R.’s in my future. I will not sit idly by any longer. I will take a much more active role in what goes down in WWE.
WWE.com: Will you ask for an apology from Stone Cold Steve Austin as well?
Linda McMahon: I’m going to allow my husband to handle Stone Cold Steve Austin.

WWE.com: Why didn’t Vince fire Stone Cold?
Linda McMahon: Vince has a plan. Vince asked me not to fire Stone Cold Steve Austin because he has a plan for Stone Cold. Vince said last night that he would never forget or forgive Stone Cold for what he did. There is never a reason for a man to put his hands on another woman. From what I understand Austin has a history of doing this. But I will let my husband personally handle Stone Cold Steve Austin, and I’m sure he will when he chooses the right forum.

WWE.com: Can we expect any more firings over this incident or are the firings over?
Linda McMahon: I think the storm is just beginning to brew. Stay tuned."

I'll bet anything that the next person on the McMahon family hitlist is either Kane, because he piledrove Linda McMahon on the steel walkway awhile back.(remeber that)? Or Mick Foley (for the same reason JR got fired, for being Austin's friend).

[RedVader 2004]

This is a bunch of McMahon ramblings for they can't get rid of Austin for he makes them more money. So doesn't Mick Foley. I would leave Kane be for he is worst the Austin. Linda words just state that she is a McMahon and now e see Where Stephanie came from. I know this is mostly put stuff but Austin will preveil no matter what Plans Vince has. Stone Cold will have the last laugh.

[DangerMouse]

Ok "Yea", what's the "non-storyline" story? Someone said JR had some health problems. Is he actually "gone" from the WWE or working behind the scenes?

[ChaCho]

he has health problems, something on the intestines.
i think the 'fired' him so he could get that operation, when he heals from the operation hell probably come back.

Linda McMahon: Vince has a plan. Vince asked me not to fire Stone Cold Steve Austin because he has a plan for Stone Cold. Vince said last night that he would never forget or forgive Stone Cold for what he did. There is never a reason for a man to put his hands on another woman. From what I understand Austin has a history of doing this.
^ when she says that austin has a story of hitting women, makes it seem as though she is gonna sue.

[chewie]

J.R.'s health problems and him getting fired from his announcing position was purely coincidental.

[RedVader 2004]

At a fans persepctive Linda and Vince ar playing with fire. They have short term memory when its comes to a pissed off rattlesnake. I still say Stone Cold will have the last laugh in ths new war. This McMahon/ Austin fued is really a storyline yes but its a good reach back to days long gone.
I think Austin should destroy a car or beat up Shane McMahon As a pay back for J.R. Or atleast story wise they should do that. Wouldn't it be a good twist if one of the McMahon children set up the stunner fest but they decided to take a hit to decieve everyone. that would be a good story twist.

[jbailey84]

I agree, but I'll tell you who a better announce team(and arguably, the best was) in the business: Gorilla Monsoon, and Jesse "The Body" Ventura!!! Monsoon & Heenan were my fav. i think they were the best but just my opinion.

has anyone ever checked out the 5 questions with John Cena on wwe.com? i dont know if he'll be involved in defending his title or be on the Raw team Vs Team Smackdown at Survivor Series, but a fan asked if he could have any 3 wrestlers on his team, who? Big Show, HBK, and Kurt Angle. great team, anyone think it might be a spoiler for Survivor Series?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Monsoon & Heenan were my fav. i think they were the best but just my opinion.

has anyone ever checked out the 5 questions with John Cena on wwe.com? i dont know if he'll be involved in defending his title or be on the Raw team Vs Team Smackdown at Survivor Series, but a fan asked if he could have any 3 wrestlers on his team, who? Big Show, HBK, and Kurt Angle. great team, anyone think it might be a spoiler for Survivor Series?
the teams have already been revealed.
Team RAW:HBK (Leader), Carlito, Masters, Big Show
Team SmackDown!:JBL (Leader), Mysterio, Benoit, & Christian

[sub-zero]

they all suck

[ChaCho]

^^how would you know that?
and hell no that wouldnt be the teams, those matches have always been good ass matches and straight up pimpin teams except for HBK, Show, and Mysterio, all they suck.

[chewie]

Those will be the teams, because Cena will be fighting Kurt Angle, HHH will be fighting Flair, Batista will be fighting Eddie, and Randy Orton will be fighting the Undertaker.

Monsoon and The body were a great announce team.

[Warren]

Monsoon and Heenan owned all.

[RedVader 2004]

I think i liked the announce team of Monsson, Piper and Savage. Atleast i think they where an announce team for a short time. I can't be to sure if it was Monsoon or Oakerland with them. I Wonder if Stone Cold will get the McMahons tonight. Even though there is a Romor from the McMahons that they have ultimate revenge instore for Austin.

[onelegasy]

Was Shane stunned too?

[Se7en the movie]

Monsoon and Heenan owned all.

Amen.


Randy Savage gave me a headache just listening to him strain and force out each word. It looks like his head is about to explode everytime he talked. He was great on the mic of course but commentating a whole PPV, take Wrestlemania 9 for example, he was just damn annoying...then again that whole PPV was awful.

Also dont forget Dusty Rhodes, he was great for saying the most random non-sensical things while commentating.

[Warren]

Also dont forget Dusty Rhodes, he was great for saying the most random non-sensical things while commentating.

DEY BE CLUBBERIN'!

[RedVader 2004]

I think i understand where this Ross plot is going. I don't think they will fire Stone Cold after 2 showings on Raw. Austin is to big a ticket drawer. I think Austin will win at Taboo tuesday even with Vince and Shanes interfearance. But in the end Jim Ross might come down and low blow austin and he will be beat up. I think maybe Ross will be a Heel and Lawler will be face now. I think the McMahon's revenge will be to humiliate Austin as much as they can.

There is two other theories i have. During the Match A wrestler will come down with Vince McMahon and they will seemingly have Austin fired but Hogan comes down and helps Austin. So they can have there match.

Another theory i have is that either Stephanie or Shane will reveal they secretly behind the stunnings and are trying to dethrown good old momma and daddy again.

[Warren]

I think i understand where this Ross plot is going. I don't think they will fire Stone Cold after 2 showings on Raw. Austin is to big a ticket drawer. I think Austin will win at Taboo tuesday even with Vince and Shanes interfearance. But in the end Jim Ross might come down and low blow austin and he will be beat up. I think maybe Ross will be a Heel and Lawler will be face now. I think the McMahon's revenge will be to humiliate Austin as much as they can.

You don't think these things out much, do you? :confused:

[ZombieMan]

It makes me laugh when I see Stephanie and Stone Cold in the ring together. My reasoning...??? Stone Cold ALWAYS tends to make her break character and laugh. LOL

[onelegasy]

I miss The Rock ripping on Stephanie.

[filmstudent04]

naw i dont think they are going to be bringin ross back like that...its too soon and i read that ross really did want to step down for awhile...i have a feeling that stone cold really is goin to be gettin fired annd is any one sick of the old guys (stonecold, foley, kane, bigshow, etc) still running raw really, i mean sersiously the characters have just gotten lame, i mean there really is no one as big as stone cold right now, but awhile back they had like hhh, stone cold, foley, the rock, big show, kane, taker, etc etc....they have no one now that is up to his status of drawin a crowd...ya ya ya cena, but really who is he gonna face? michaels i really dont think will get a title shot and if he did, he'd prolly lose just cuz his character is almost washed up as well, although it still is great to see him perform...angle will prolly get the shot and win it...carlito isnt ready for it and i dont think he really will get it just cuz he doesnt seem like champion material...show wont get it cuz he is like michaels as well. it would be nice to see michaels win it, but idk where they would go with it

[RedVader 2004]

No raw needs legends like Austin, and Foley to give some change to raw. I'd rather have an Austin and Foley around then HHH any day. If broke down Flair can be a champion again i then welcome legends like Foley and Austin back.

I am sorry if i don't make since. I'm just curious as to why fire Stone Cold after 2 showings on Raw. I for one think raw has been 10 times better as of late. Austin is back in the raw credits. So i think for Austin to win someone may have to help Austin for you know the McMahons have a plan. I'd like to see Kane choke slam Vince or tombstone a McMahon. Aren't you guys interested in what will happen during the match. I mean surely there is a dirty plan and i am sure Austin knows it. From his days in 98 and 99.

[onelegasy]

I actually have stopped watching Raw. The reasons are obvious.

I watch a bit of TNA now since it is on after Ultimate Fighter 2

[jbailey84]

I miss The Rock ripping on Stephanie.
Jericho has had some moments too.

[Glordreen]

I am the only one here who justs when watches Raw. Smackdown sucks, no one interesting is on that show. While Raw has Austin, Angle, Michaels, Triple H, Jericho, Cena, Edge. Michael Cole sends smackdown to the bottom.

[ChaCho]

Smackdown is very good. The Undertaker is there, Batista, Benoit, Booker T, Mysterio, Orton. I like it a lot.

[RedVader 2004]

I was just wondering this and thought why not throw this question to the fans of wwe. Who do you guys think was the best wrestler in the last 15 years in the wwe.
I'll list some wrestlers to compare with but i myself have a three way tie with Austin, Rock and Taker.
But hey thats me. I'll post the list now and you can decide who was your favorite wrestler in the past 15 years to appear in the wwe.

1 HHH.
2 HBK.
3 Stone Cold.
4 The Undertaker.
5 Batista.
6 Mick Foley.
7 The Rock.
8 Rick Flair.
9 Hulk Hogan.
10 Kurt Angle.
11 Chris Benoit.
12 The Big Show .
13 Kane.
14 Brett Hart.
15 John Cena.
16 Booker T.
17 Eddie Gurerro.
18 Kevin Nash.
19 Ray Mysterio.
20 Shelton Benjamin.

[Warren]

Only wrestlers on that list I would include in the TOP 20 of all time are Angle, Hart, and Benoit.

Some I wouldn't have in the top 200.

[beyond_th3]

well of course no.1 would go to HBK, imo the best performer on the planet, his matches always steals the show. no.2 would be bret hart, he would have been no.1 but he lost to HBK during the greatest match in WWE history.

[ZombieMan]

I think that The Rock does deserve to be in there, somewhere.

[jbailey84]

from that list my top 5 would be

1. HBK
2. Kurt Angle
3. Bret Hart
4. The Undertaker
5. Stone Cold

[ChaCho]

My top four are :
1. The Undertaker
2. Shawn Michaels
3. Stone Cold Steve Austin
4. The Rock

[chewie]

1. Bret Hart
2. The Rock
3. Kurt Angle
4. HBK

[onelegasy]

Top 5 (all time)

1. Bret Hart
2. Chris Benoit
3. The Rock
4. Disco Inferno
5. Kurt Angle

[RedVader 2004]

1 The Rock.
2 Stone Cold.
3 The Undertaker.
4 Mick Foley.
5 Batista.

[chewie]

gotta give it up for the Disco Inferno.

[onelegasy]

I marked out big time during his big push in WCW.

[HotBoy]

Jericho has had some moments too.Well, everyone knows his classic rip on Stephanie: When he calls her "A filthy, skanky, brutal, disgusting, bottom-feeding, trash bag ho" :D :D :D !!!

And here's a classic from the Rock on her birthday(singing): Happy Birthday to Steph, you're a ho with big breast, so take the night off from hooking:

IF YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING"

:lol: :lol:

[jbailey84]

anyone vote yet for Taboo Tuesday? heres what i voted for and my predictions

John Cena(C) Vs Kurt Angle* Vs Shawn Michaels

Ric Flair(C) Vs HHH* STEEL CAGE

Stone Cold* Vs Coach STREET FIGHT

Carlito Vs CACTUS JACK*

Edge & Masters Vs MATT HARDY & CHRISTIAN*

Eugene & HACKSAW JIM DUGGAN* Vs Conaway

LINGERIE Diva Battle Royal Trish

Cade & Murdoch(C) Vs Big Show & Kane*

[carnage4u]

taboo tueasday choices annoy me to much

of course ric flair match will be a steel cage. not even a real choice
of course cactus jack will be the pick.

its just too in your face picks taht annoy me.

give me a taboo tuesday with real options, then maybe ill order the PPV.

[Warren]

The JR colon surgery skit last night was ATROCIOUS.

Anyone agree? Everyone?

[jbailey84]

taboo tueasday choices annoy me to much

of course ric flair match will be a steel cage. not even a real choice
of course cactus jack will be the pick.

its just too in your face picks taht annoy me.

give me a taboo tuesday with real options, then maybe ill order the PPV.
true true

[RedVader 2004]

A Street Fight option is just a corporate plot way to maybe screw Ross and Austin with interference. I mean they could hit Austin with a car. I voted for the Arm Wrestling thing for a street fight is playing into Vinces hands. I don't wan to help the McMahon's. Whats with the Stephanie mocking stone cold. I can see Shane but why Stephanie. Speaking of Shane he has only been on the Homecoming with the McMahons. Shane has helped Austin before even though he betrayed him later on.

[chewie]

The JR colon surgery skit last night was ATROCIOUS.

Anyone agree? Everyone?


That was awful.

Yeah, the WWE is hinting at what options they would like the people to choose for Taboo Tuesday, which is just complete crap.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

which is why im voting for the unconventional: Verbal debate, one fall to a finish, Holly and Christian, Big show. the Mick Foley one doenst really matter, nor does the diva one.

[Warren]

Everyone should vote for Christian.

Poor, poor Christian. :(

[RedVader 2004]

Just wondering but with the Undertakers new 3 disk dvd of his 21 best matches. If Austin were to have a 3 dvd disk set what would your top 6 must see matches be on the dvd. Face it if there is a Taker 3 disk set Austin and HBK can't be too far behind.

1 Austin v/s Bret Hart-------- Wrestlemania 13.
2 Austin v/s The Rock --------Wrestlemania 15.
3 Austin v/s Taker --------St Valentines day Massacre Buried Alive MATCH.
4 Kane v/s Austin ---------First Blood match.
5 Austin v/s Shawn Micheals ---- Wrestlemania 14.
6 Austin v/s Vince McMahon ---- Steel Cage Match.

[onelegasy]

That Austin vs Micheals match was awful

1. Everyone knew the outcome
2. Micheals was wrestling in a tremendous amount of pain, and it was painful to watch.

When Austin turned heel during his feud with the Rock, I was entertained. It was a solid match between the two.

[A+]

***Match result from Smackdown mentioned here*** Just so it doesn't spoil it for you if you want to watch it on tape or anything.

I saw Smackdown the other night, and spotted something you should look out for if you can see it again. When MNM win their match, watch their manager girl (not sure on her name), and the guys in the crowd behind her. You may realise she has a very short skirt, and when she gets excited she jumps around a lot. Cue perves. And not subtle perves.

[ChaCho]

The Austin matches.. hard he had a lot.
The match against HBk was a really good match i think. Against The Rock at Wrestlemania XIX was really good.




John Cena Vs Kurt Angle Vs Shawn Michaels

Ric Flair Vs HHH - Steel Cage

Stone Cold Vs Coach - Street Fight

Carlito Vs Mankind

Edge & Masters Vs Matt Hardy & rey Mysterio

Eugene & Hacksaw Vs Conaway

Diva Battle Royal - Cheerleader

Cade & Murdoch Vs Big Show & Kane

[chewie]

The following statement was just issued on WWE.com:

"SmackDown Superstar Christian has quit WWE. Check back here later today as more information becomes available."

[Warren]

Wow, I'm very surprised. I love Christian, and I'm disappointed his role on Smackdown wasn't as big as it should have been. :(

In other news, TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA!

[ChaCho]

DAMN, DAMN, DAMN, DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!!!
I HATE KURT ANGLE!

Raw just ended, and like everyone here knows Raw puts a real good match very rarely.
And today's main event was a really good match until it ended. Cena vs HBK, they were wrestling left, right, center. I was HYPED, that happens very little with the WWE, but Kurt Angle had to mess it up!! Damn man thats just gay!!! i hate him!



On the Christian news I did see that he quited, but he appeared today on Raw, so whats going on there?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

he's going to leave after Taboo Tuesday

[RedVader 2004]

Whats going on here is it going to be austin on taboo tuesday or Batista. Why make such a big stone cold moment if to change it. Unless Stone Cold figure to have his own plan to get even with Vince. I think Stone Cold will take ou any riff raf and Batista will beat the coach. He liked JR for didn't big batista help jr beat hhh.

[onelegasy]

WWE knows how to waste it's talent.

I've been watching TNA lately and aside from Jarrett and Nash, it's a really entertaining show.

[chewie]

Stone Cold didn't want to job to coach.

[ilovecandace]

stone cold didnt want to loose to coach so he walked out on the wwe again

[onelegasy]

Walked out again?

lol

[Warren]

Makes sense. The booking sucks.

And Goldust?! VADER?!

[onelegasy]

Goldust and Vader??
What did i miss?

[jbailey84]

nothing really

[LS2002]

Whats going on here is it going to be austin on taboo tuesday or Batista. Why make such a big stone cold moment if to change it. Unless Stone Cold figure to have his own plan to get even with Vince. I think Stone Cold will take ou any riff raf and Batista will beat the coach. He liked JR for didn't big batista help jr beat hhh.

The only reason why they changed the match is because Austin is a big cry baby. He found out that he has to job to the coach and told Vince and the WWE that he wouldn't show up on Raw or at Taboo Tuesday.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

also because even if he won, JR still wouldnt be brought back.

[ilovecandace]

i think somethings going to happen ....
i think Vince is trying to make it like it was during the late 90s

[RedVader 2004]

Remember Austin and McMahons movie deal on his first movie is coming up. So most likely Austin may make an appearance tonight and then be gone for a while . To be honest though i don't think Austin is a baby in this for whould you a former wwf champion want to be loose to coach and fat old vader and out of shape golddust.

[slinger]

The only reason why they changed the match is because Austin is a big cry baby. He found out that he has to job to the coach and told Vince and the WWE that he wouldn't show up on Raw or at Taboo Tuesday.

Its The Coach. Even when he left because of Brock, he had a legit claim in that there was no build up and just waste when it easily could've been a PPV match. The whole JR/Vince/Austin thing is a mess because Vince didn't get the annoucer he wanted because Vince's true colours showed in that deal, and they showed again with how he's treated JR. And if Coach wins, Austin would be fired, what's the point if his character is gone. They already want him to job to that fossil Hogan at Wrestlemania. Austin is better off making movies and once his deal with Vince is done, that's it. WWE is a sinking ship, they won't go bankrupt but its worse then I've ever seen it in the past five years.

[RedVader 2004]

Lets face it Austin and THE rock found a greater respect in the movie buisness then from sneaky McMahon. McMahon most likely thought the Rock was his to use but now The Rock is respected by his fellow actors and is loved by fans. So i think THE rock and Stone Cold are bigger then Vince. Also i think Austin, Hogan, Piper and Foley don't really like Vince and its now showing that Austin can't hide it anymore. I think earlier it was fake but now i think Austin like Bret Hart won't wrestle for vince again but may do dvds and stuff.

[Valkrine]

Taboo Tuesday Was Good I M Glad They Did It Right

[insaneMoViEgoer]

for a free trial of WWE 24/7, go here (http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/247online/taboofreemonth/) and register. and when it ask for a code enter wwetabootuesday.

[KingMizfit]

I'm actually a little upset that they had Triple H job to the nature Boy. They seem to be hung up on bringing all these old school people back. It's O.K. for nostalgic value....but to have e'm beat the young guys is Lame-o IMO.
I really can't see why they brought Goldust back...I know his father has got a job behind the scenes now....but come on...who really likes or wants to see this guy?
As far as BV vader....dude is so out of shape...he fell out of the ring trying to get out....they barely showed it on T.V. but I caught it. It was pretty hilarious.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

you think HHH would really carry the IC title?

[KingMizfit]

Well back when Austin had the belt he did.They won the Tag bets too and between the two had every strap on Raw.Then HHH He lost it to Kane in a steel chain match. Don't get me wrong...I have repsect for nature boy....but as of right now..the WWE has a decent IC division.....I would much rather see benjamin, masters, carlito,tomko....guys like that...scrapping for that Title.
If HHH had the strap I'm sure he would carry it proudly.

[chewie]

The IC title used to be a stepping stone for the WWE title. Not anymore.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

it's sad that only the WWE and the Heavyweight title actually mean something in WWE. everything else has become a complete joke.

[BWSword]

he's going to leave after Taboo Tuesday
the only good news he said is that he plans to return but we don't know when...

[ChaCho]

insaneMoViEgoer i agree with you 100%!!!
The WWE Championship and the World Heavyweight Championship are the only ones that matter now, a lil less the World title because right now I dont know who is challenging for it, who? Orton, Eddie? no one?
It is really sad to see the titles go off line like that. I remember whenthe Tag Titles were in a good role and when you couldnt see the time for another good tag match.
Or the cruserweight section. man WWE is dissapointing me, and the only wrestler that really stuck me to it is not there, The Undertaker.

taboo tuesday was really good, except the Batista match, I mean. The World Champion vs a bald announcer, a bald bar of gold, and a bald fat man (not that i got something agaisnt bald people is just that all three were bald and its funny lol)
That match doesnt make sense, it was better when it was Austin vs Coach, it made it very interesting to look forward to ass-whoopin.
Why do you guys know that Austin backed down to coach i mean would he have a reason?

[RedVader 2004]

I'm sorry but i thought the match Shawn Micheals had with Shelton was alot better then with Cena on Raw. I think Batista has more ability in one arm the Cena does. I think and Hope Batista will come back on Raw soon for he had great matches on raw.

[ZombieMan]

If HHH had the strap I'm sure he would carry it proudly.

You HAVE to be kidding. The Intercontinental title isn't near good enough for Triple H. Come on, its TRIPLE H that we're talking here. He's married to the boss' daughter and has most say over everything behind the scenes, and can do whatever the hell he pleases. He can push around whoever he pleases, he wouldn't settle for the IC title and I'm surprised that it was even a title matchup. As far as Goldust goes, he's a hell of a wrestler, and a good guy. I'm glad to see him back in the WWE. I use to really like Vader also, but he seems to have gotten really lame and clumsy, I agree with that.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Dustin is fine. it's goldust i dont like. too strange for me.

[KingMizfit]

You HAVE to be kidding. The Intercontinental title isn't near good enough for Triple H. Come on, its TRIPLE H that we're talking here. He's married to the boss' daughter and has most say over everything behind the scenes, and can do whatever the hell he pleases. He can push around whoever he pleases, he wouldn't settle for the IC title and I'm surprised that it was even a title matchup. As far as Goldust goes, he's a hell of a wrestler, and a good guy. I'm glad to see him back in the WWE. I use to really like Vader also, but he seems to have gotten really lame and clumsy, I agree with that.



I'm not kidding. When he had it back when him and Austin were the two man power trip he had some great IC title matches. You're right...it is TRIPLE H were talking about here....the guy that will do anything for the company.,,including lose to grandpa Flair. I feel like Triple H was overexposed for the last couple years...and maybe a step back wouldn't hurt. I will be surprised if he gets thrown back in the World Title hunt very soon.
He could have some great matches with some of the younger guys for the IC strap. I don't think it's insulting at all....Benoit wore the United States belt...and him and Booker-T have been having a great series of matches.
Also saying it's beneath Triple H but not Ric Flair don't make sense. Flair is a legend....and he's sporting the strap proudly.
Bottomline the IC division is not for Lame-o's and rookies anymore. Its one of the two major titles on Raw and no one would be ashamed to wear it. Not even The Game.


Oh and I'm not knocking Dustins in-ring abilities....it's his character Goldust. Comic relief or no....I just think people would rather see something fresh.

[BWSword]

I thought christain was leaving?

[Valkrine]

he did y do u think he beet up on

[insaneMoViEgoer]

they taped smackdown on sunday because of Taboo Tuesday.

[FVD]

Well I caught Smackdown last night for the first time in a while. I'm really liking that MISTERRRRR ..... KENNEDYYYYY!!!! .......... Kennedy.....

And his finishing movie is impressive.

[KingMizfit]

I thought christain was leaving?


He is.....the episode was taped before he left. It's his last appearance.
I also like Mr....KENNEDY........KENNEDY.
He's from Green Bay Wisconsin.....my state....so I gotta back him.

[RedVader 2004]

Tonights Raw high light was watching Kane and Big Show beat up the former tag team champs. Other then that it was pretty boring zzzzz.

[chewie]

Joey Styles does kick ass though.

[RedVader 2004]

I think he is better then the coach. But also he reminds me of Jim Cornet a little bit.

[jbailey84]

i think Joey Styles is better by himself!

anyone pick up the Wrestlemania Anthology Set or volumes? i picked up Volume 3, has WM 11-15. wanted it so i could see the Stone Cold Vs Bret Hart match, and plus its Wresltemania!:D

[Minker17]

TNA Wrestling issued a press release this afternoon regarding the “major acquisition” of a superstar who has jumped ship from WWE. TNA President Dixie Carter was quoted, “This is the single biggest jump in TNA history .. The contract is signed, the travel is set and in my opinion, ‘Genesis’ just got a whole lot more intriguing.”

Several reliable sources have confirmed that this “major acquisition” is none other than former WWE Intercontinental and Tag Champion, Jay “Christian” Reso.

Reso’s WWE contract expired last week and he decided not to resign with the company after 8 years of service. There were reports that WWE had offered him a new contract that was considerably lower than what he had previously been earning. There was speculation that Christian would be subject to a 90-day no-compete clause. The speculation has proven to be false, as the 90-day no-compete clauses are reserved for wrestlers who are released from their contract before its expiration.

Reso will be appearing at this Sunday’s TNA PPV, Genesis. At this time, it is unknown what his ring-name will be. Although Reso wrestled in Canada as “Christian Cage” long before working for Vince McMahon, WWE owns the trademark “Christian”. Reso could take WWE to court and claim he owns the rights to the name “Christian” (both The Honky Tonk Man and The Ultimate Warrior had similar cases - and won), but TNA does not want any more legal troubles with WWE and it appears a new ring-name is being worked on for his debut on Sunday night.

[Rogue]

So uh..anyone wanna sum up the past month in WWE? I haven't watched.

[jbailey84]

smackdown they're having Eddie Guerrero vs. Mr. Kennedy. i wonder if Eddie will put him over?

[Minker17]

So uh..anyone wanna sum up the past month in WWE? I haven't watched.


You're better off. Nothing interesting has really happened. JR got fired, and that's about it. Well, I take that back. JR got fired, Christian left, Benoit might be gone. Vader and Goldust came back for Taboo Tuesday, Davairi came back on RAW this past week, Joey Styles (From ECW) is currently announcing on RAW, Batista injured his back pretty bad and might be out of Survivor Series (damnit) Kane and Big SHow have the tag titles on RAW....and that might be it....

[carnage4u]

I thought Kurt Angle did great on monday night

Him coming out and getting mad at the crowd was so much fun.

[onelegasy]

Benoit might be leaving? Explain

[Warren]

Benoit might be leaving? Explain

His contract will soon expire, and there's, of course, a possibility of him leaving.

It's unlikely, though. Apparently he's happy in WWE.

[FVD]

There's not really much point of Benoit leaving. He's one of the big drawcards. I will be sad if he does leave though. He's one of my favourite wrestlers.

[Rogue]

So whatever happend to the Edge/Lita thing?

I quit watching Raw because Trips was coming back and I can't stand looking at his ugly mug anymore. I was tired of it being diva diva diva..where none of them can actually wrestle other than Victoria and Lita. What happened to Jazz? She scared the hell outta me but at least she could hold her own and make it believable.

Benoit's leaving? HBK? He still around?

THe only reason I kept watching half ass was that I LOVE the Undertaker. He's still my fave.

[jbailey84]

edge and lita are together. hhh is on tv but not as much as when he was heavywieght champ. he and ric flair are feauding. jazz got released i believe. hbk is still around.

[jbailey84]

spoiler about smackdown champ Batista. dont look good:(

World Heavyweight Champion Batista injured his back at the SmackDown television taping Tuesday night in Indianapolis.

Earlier today, Batista traveled to Birmingham, Ala., to be seen by Dr. James Andrews. While meeting with Dr. Andrews, The Animal was informed that he had a decision to make concerning the treatment of the injury. He could either rehab his back, or opt for surgery. If he decides to go with the surgery, Batista could be out of action for as long as three months.

Batista plans on making his decision by the weekend.

[Minker17]

His contract will soon expire, and there's, of course, a possibility of him leaving.

It's unlikely, though. Apparently he's happy in WWE.

He isn't happy right now. They are offering him almost half of what he is making now for his new contract. That B.S. He is one of the best they have. But with Batista losing his belt due to his back, they could persuade Benoit to stay if they give him the title. Less money and the title, or no job (until he goes to Japan or TNA).

[KingMizfit]

O.K. soooo....Japan and TNA will give him the money he deserves? Doubtful at best.
Don't forget what the WWE did for Benoit at Wrestlemania 20. That was a helluva moment for him,and yes....it was and will be the highlight of his career. It's not like Benoit to cry about money issues, and personally, I think it's a bunch of rumours and B.S. anyway.
He still has the most solid matches on Smackdown. Wait until you see The JBL match this friday. Easily stole the show.....
I tell you this...Benoit vs Booker T is just heating up, and Benoit will have the US gold again very soon.

[Warren]

I quit watching Raw because Trips was coming back and I can't stand looking at his ugly mug anymore. I was tired of it being diva diva diva..where none of them can actually wrestle other than Victoria and Lita. What happened to Jazz? She scared the hell outta me but at least she could hold her own and make it believable.

Replace Lita with Trish and I'd agree.

[KingMizfit]

Triple H is the man. He's great at being a heel. Seems like its working......

[ChaCho]

Triple HHH is actually doing pretty good in my opinion. I mean not going after the WWE Championship and focusing on other roles do his character very good. I have enjoyed him fuding with Ric Flair.
Naw heck no! Benoit will not leave WWE, he is doing some great matches and I see him going for the WWE Championship, of course we got to see whats gonna happen with Batista.
TNA whats up with that? you all think it can become like WCW and get on a war with WWE, I mean they have really good matches, wrestlers and everything. And if they are taking Christian itll be like WCW with a lot of WWE superstars switching shows.
Have you all seen all those commercials with The Undertaker? This Survivor Series he'll be in his 15th year at WWE. That is really something! Can any of you guess what he has planed for Randy Orton? Umm bury him alive? crucify him? Set him on hire? Throw him off something? thoombstone him and break his neck?

[Rogue]

I say we tombstone him and break his neck, throw off the top of the screen ala Shane McMahon, set him on fire, bury him alive, dig him up, set him on fire again and crucify him.

*looks innocent*

What? If anyone can pull it off, it's Taker! ;)

[KingMizfit]

LOL.....Possibly...possibly......
BUT....I still think people may be overlooking just how dangerous "THE Legend Killer" has become. They didn't waste all that time putting Orton Over to have The Undertaker come back and squash him....
We'll see.....

[Rogue]

I'm sorry but no one beats Taker in my book. He's my favorite. He's up there with The Rock and HBK.

And I guess I'm the only one that ever liked DDP. I'm in a class all my own. ;)

[FVD]

Hey DDP was cool. SELF HIGH FIVE!!!!

Well I caught Raw in the weekend and I was laughing myself silly when Kurt Angle was going all mental over the You Suck chants.

And Bischoff sending Edge and Lita to Smackdown to face Batista was interesting.

[ChaCho]

I cant believe it no one has posted about it yet.
Latest Incredible News on WWE:
Eddie Guerrero has passed away. 1967-2005.
Check all about it on WWE.com

I would like to pay my respects to Eddie Guerrero, and my deepest condolences to the Guerrero family. Goodbye Eddie Guerrero you will be remebered in my heart as a A type wrestler.

[BWSword]

yeah this was something I wasn't expecting...eddie guerrero dead...I was like what the....I have my respect as well...so long eddie...we'll miss ya

[ZombieMan]

And I guess I'm the only one that ever liked DDP. I'm in a class all my own. ;)

Your not alone there, I'm a DDP fan all the way. :D

[carnage4u]

it sucks about eddie..

cant belive hes dead.

[jbailey84]

what sucks is that they were going to give Eddie the title in a Triple Threat with Batista and Orton. would have loved to see Eddie with the title again...

My respect to the Guerrero Family and to Eddie Guerrero. We'll miss you holmes.

[KingMizfit]

I'm pretty bummed about Eddie. With Him dead and Batista leaving{temporarily} for back surgery, I don't know how good Smackdown will be for awhile.

Christian debuted in TNA this weekend......and a lastly...according to early spoilers{smackdown and Raw were both taped over the weekend} it looks like Batista didn't drop the strap to Orton yet.
N-E-WAYS R.I.P. Eddie...I'll miss the hell out of you.

[onelegasy]

**** me. I'm not one for tearing up but Benoit made me eyes water like mad.

Damn Benoit, and damn you Eddie for being an awesome wrestler and dying too soon.

[Xia]

HHH made me tear up.

[Skinny]

I damn near cried.

[jbailey84]

i havent seen Raw yet. we get it the day after overseas on AFN. so tonight i'll see it. still cant get over that he's gone :(

[KingMizfit]

Yeah Raw was emotional. Seeing guys like Batista,HHH, and Benoit cry really made me want to. I won't lie...the beggining did make me cry. It really hit home when I saw Kids in the crowd crying..... I am really going to miss Eddie.


On A lighter note...all the matches were awesome. Truly a PPV quality night. Shelton vs Kurt was great...and I've been wanting to see Cena vs Orton for a while now.
They put on a great show for Latino Heat....I'm sure wherever he is...he was proud.

[Skinny]

Yea, seeing all those men cry seriously made my emotions so vulnerable...

If any of you missed RAW, alot of the stuff can be found on the WWE website.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

i damn near came to tears late night, and coming from me, thats saying something.

[KingMizfit]

Same here. It was emotional. For me to come to tears isn't an everyday event.

[Rogue]

I was sobbing my eyes out at work. Seeing one of my developmentally disabled clients cry because their favorite wrestler died broke my heart. :(

[ChaCho]

Raw was very emotional.
To me the ones that really showed loyalty to Eddie were Benoit, Rey, Batista and what Cena did at the end of Raw. Putting a Eddie Guerrero shirt in the middle of the ring, and then putting the WWE Championship on top. That will always mean Eddie will be always be a Champion... A WWE Champion

[KingMizfit]

That was a great moment. Sincerely.

[RedVader 2004]

It is too bad that this had to one of Raws shows in resent memory had to be due to the respect to Eddie Gurerro. Why can't they just have good matches and cut out alot of te resent Crap. Last night was one of the greatest Raws in along time. The highlight had to be Ray Mysterio v/s Shawn Micheals.

I think they should do more cross program matches. I would have loved to ahve seen Batista v/s HHH more for the main event last night. Other then that it was perfect.

[jbailey84]

ive always wanted to see Orton Vs Cena. just wish ortons dad didnt ruin the match.

[jbailey84]

found this on MSN.com search.

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=15674104

i signed in the Guest Book. theres 184 pages so far. just thought you all might be interested.

[Rogue]

I signed it. It's up to page 190 now. The support is amazing. It's still crazy though, can't believe he's gone.

[KingMizfit]

Nunzio won the cruiserweight title from Juvi in europe...but Juvi could get it back before the tour wraps up and the guys head back to America.

Also...several wrestlers stayed behind to attend Eddie's funeral, but they will join the Europeian Tour after it's over. They did the 9 bell salute for Eddie during the Europe house shows too, and the crowd gave it a standing O.


More interesting news...apparantly ESPN Radio host Colin Cowherd made some very rude and tatsteless comments about Eddies passing. A site I visit has had many people send Emails, and give Phone-calls to complain and today ESPN Issued an apology.
If anyone wishes to voice their disgust about this tasteless incident...follow the links.
http://wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=134093614
http://wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=134094402
http://wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=134029041

[insaneMoViEgoer]

WWE seems to have dropped the Kerwin White character.

[jbailey84]

heres a Eddie Guerrero Tribute t-shirt available at wweshop.com for $20. all proceeds are donated to Eddie's family. i want one of those arm bands.

http://www.wweshop.com/Product_detail.asp?cat=cat-newreleases&productId=01-07500

[KingMizfit]

Http://wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=134204769

This is odd. I myself believe they are talking about Stone Cold.


I ordered one of those Guerrero T-shirts....I'm glad his family is getting the cash for them.

[Skinny]

More interesting news...apparantly ESPN Radio host Colin Cowherd made some very rude and tatsteless comments about Eddies passing. A site I visit has had many people send Emails, and give Phone-calls to complain and today ESPN Issued an apology.


Ah, so he really did say such things...

My girlfriend (CS Name: Kitty) happened to listen to Colin Cowheard on ESPN radio a couple days ago when he was dropping the bombs on Eddie Guerrero's death... When she told me this, I felt pretty disgusted about and I was planning on sending Cowturd a very mean email, but I also needed confirmation that he really did say these things and you just gave it to me. Thank you. :cool: ;)

[KingMizfit]

Your very welcome. I sent several Emails complaining about that butt-munch......I feel better.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

it seems WWE is worried another top star could pass away:

"The PWTorch.com Newsletter reports that another high-profile WWE wrestler is believed to be on "death watch" by his lockerroom peers.

Although the report attaches no identity to the wrestler, it claims that his death would make the media coverage for Eddie Guerrero look "minor" by comparison. The story also did not describe the potentially fatal problems facing the wrestler, but it seemingly relates to the stressful lifestyle of the business.

The situation is reportedly of no secrecy to most of those within WWE, although no one can confirm if Vince McMahon is aware of the predicament.

"It's one thing to show how much you care about a colleague by crying on the air after he dies. It's another to care enough about someone to do what it takes while he's alive to keep him from dying - even at the expense of box office receipts, storyline interruptions, and being deemed pushy, nosy, or a nark," the article by Wade Keller said.

The story seems to serve as a follow-up to an article written this week by Andrew "Test" Martin, who wondered who the next WWE wrestler to die would be."
----------------
based on this info alone, it sounds like HHH.

[KingMizfit]

I actually posted a link to that article two posts up. I think they may be talking about Stone Cold myself. Heres why....the storyline interruptions comment could be about how Stone Cold backed out of his match with the Coach at Taboo Tuesday. The reason given by McMahon was he was in an accident, Internet rumor cited the reason as S.C being miffed about being told he would lose to Coachman and Vince never had any intentions of bringing J.R. Back. Truth be told, Austin was not in good shape, and a return to the ring is not possible for him at this time. His last match was with the Rock at wrestlemania 19, and he could have feesibly been killed during that match. The night before he was rushed to the hospital because he thought he was having a Heart Attack. It turned out to be a near lethal combinationof stress and energy drinks.
About the box office comment, WWE is starting to make Motion pictures and Austin was going to be starring in these films. Because of his health issues{bad heart, bad neck} he may not be able to pull off a filming schedule in the near future.

There is no way they mean HHH. He is in top shape, and has no heart,or body problems. Austin ,on the other hand, has been falling apart for awhile.

The only other person I can think of would be Ric Flair.

[Warren]

I don't believe it.

[jbailey84]

it could be Stone Cold. remember the incident before Wrestlemania 19 when he was rushed to the hosiptal from all the coffee and energy drinks he had been having? cause his heart to beat too fast. dont want to think of who will be next to go :(

[Skinny]

I just sent my email to Cowturd, and boy, did that FEEL GOOD! WOO!

[jbailey84]

from wwe.com

"Nick 'Eugene' Dinsmore was rushed to the hospital last night in Manchester.

He has since been released from the hospital, sent home and suspended indefinitely. WWE.com will have more details as they become available."

anyone know what this is about?

[KingMizfit]

Unfortunately no. I have been feverishly searching for information on this but can't find any so far. If I hear anything I''ll provide a link. Please do the same.
If I had to guess he pulled a Ric Flair...and probably got all drunk and did something stupid. Hopefully a drug OD isn't the case....but you never know.
Last thing I can think of is some sort of locker room fight...but thats unlikely.

Oh...you guys can't miss the Cruiser weight battle royal tonight! I've heard it's pretty cool. Smackdown is going to be very emotional tonight, just like Raw.
Triple H vs Benoit is the main event...but I won't spoil who wins...I'll just say I've heard it was a helluva match.

[jbailey84]

my dad thinks it might be "drug" related with eugene. like you said, you never know. i wont be able to see smackdown until tomorrow night. has a pretty good card.

[KingMizfit]

Your dad may be right...heres a little update on the situation...but nothings factual yet.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=134344679

[jbailey84]

deja vu! i was just at that sight 5 minutes ago!! :omg:

[KingMizfit]

LOL! It's a good site....but the pop-ups drive me nuts!

Just thought of something....Juvi lost the CW title to Nunzio overseas...but tonight Juvi will be shown with the belt during the Cruiserweight battle royal.
S.D. was taped last weekend, so I wonder if WWE has made it official that Nunzio is the new CW champ? I'm going to have to look into this.....

[KingMizfit]

Whoa! I'm watching S.D. right now...and Vince just gave a real heartfelt interview about Eddie. I never thought I would see this guy tearing up. Looks like it's going to be another emotional show.

[Warren]

LOL! It's a good site....but the pop-ups drive me nuts!

Just thought of something....Juvi lost the CW title to Nunzio overseas...but tonight Juvi will be shown with the belt during the Cruiserweight battle royal.
S.D. was taped last weekend, so I wonder if WWE has made it official that Nunzio is the new CW champ? I'm going to have to look into this.....

They mentioned it on WWE.com.

[Roy_Bluth]

There is no way they mean HHH. He is in top shape, and has no heart, or body problems. Austin, on the other hand, has been falling apart for awhile.

You never know, I would have never imagined that something like that could happen to Eddie, I know he use to do drugs, but he's been clean for 4 years. Matter of fact, they said that he celebrated his 4 year anniversary the Thursday before his death.

On to another subject, I hope SC is able to do those movies, I was really looking forward to them. But his health does come first. I'd hate for anything to happen to him.

Speaking of wrestlers and movies, what happened to that John Cena movie that was supposed to come out? "The Marine" I think it was called. Is that still gonna come out?

[KingMizfit]

Yes it is coming out

Check out this crap guys.... http://wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=134528108

What is wrong with people?

[ZombieMan]

People like him.....need shot in the face for saying that. Seriously, thats just ****in' wrong.

[KingMizfit]

Yeah...That is the very definition of tasteless. WTF is wrong with this guy? Guerrero's death was the #1 search mover on MSN for cripes sake. How can he say it doesn't matter.
Please guys...follow the link and complain about that bung-hole!

[ZombieMan]

Don't worry, I complained for damn sure. That **** face needs fired, in a jiffy.

[KingMizfit]

Glad to hear it.
It just amazes me that people think they can say stuff like that. If you have a personal vendetta against wrestling...whatever...but when someone dies...you don't just lump e'm into your dislike of the buisness and insinuate wrestlers don't matter when they die. To say he's not a real person is the asshead statement of the year....He WAS a REAL person, who left behind a family.
When that butt-munch on ESPN pulled that crap,ESPN got bombarded with so much Email, and phonecalls that they had to issue an apology. I hope the same happens here.

[Skinny]

I sent a letter to that other asswipe as well. I could not curse in it since they said that they can edit it, so I had to make it classy.

[KingMizfit]

LOL! Yeah I was tempeted to curse like a sailor. Instead I overused words like Tasteless, Heartless, Ignorant, and such.....I hope it was effective.
Besides...I think they get more worried about complaints from people who can intelligently express they're disgust, then those that are just typing F-Bombs.

[jbailey84]

from wwe.com

Last week in Manchester, England, Nick “Eugene” Dinsmore was immediately rushed to a nearby hospital after he was found passed out in a hotel lobby.

After regaining consciousness, Dinsmore admitting to taking Somas and other prescription medication. As a result of the incident, he was sent home from the WWE International tour and suspended indefinitely.

Since returning home, Dinsmore has agreed to seek professional help. He flew to an undisclosed location, where he will spend the next two weeks being evaluated at a drug rehabilitation facility.

[KingMizfit]

I read that earlier.....At least it wasn't crack or something. Looks like we'll be without Eugenes hijinx for awhile. Shame too.....the match he had with Simon Dean on Raw last week was funny as hell.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

i hope he comes back as Dinsmore and not Eugene.

[jbailey84]

he really didnt have much luck Summer Slam ppv's did he? always got booed and his oppenents HHH (SS 04) and Kurt Angle (SS 05) were cheered, i loved it! i really didnt care that much for eugene.

[KingMizfit]

I dunno...I hated Eugene at first...then he grew on me. It's cool how he busts out with the Legends moves and stuff. I don't know if he'll ever not be Eugene...even though we all know he's not really "special" it would be stupid to have him show up one day and just be normal again.
Stupid as it sounds...dude does have alot of kid, and "special" people fans. I don't know how they would react to him being normal all of a sudden.

[jbailey84]

true. yea i did like how he would bust with legend moves, especially the stunner :D im surprised he never did the F-5, but guess we all know why. i would have liked to seen that.

[KingMizfit]

He does a pretty mean helicoptor spin and Rock Bottom too! :D
On Raw last week, when he rode off on Simon Deans scooter...it cracked me up. It was nice to have a funny moment among all the sadness.

[Roy_Bluth]

I hope that guy from the NY Post gets fired, if he puts out an apology, you know it won't mean a damn thing. You can't change how people feel.

On the subject of Eugene, I don't care for his character, I liked it at first because he made Bischoff's life a living hell as his nephew. That was funny to watch. Now they only mention that he's Eric's nephew once in awhile, so people don't forget.

[jbailey84]

from wrestlingonline newsletter, CONTAINS SPOILERS!!








BATISTA VS ORTON NEXT WEEK ON SMACKDOWN!
- It looks like a new World champion will be crowned next week in
Sheffield, England as Batista will be taking on Randy Orton in a street
fight for the World heavyweight title. Batista, who's scheduled to
undergo surgery to repair a back problem, had to drop the title during
last week's Smackdown! in a match against Eddie Guerrero and Orton but
obviously everything was scrapped due to the death of Guerrero last
Sunday. If everything remains unchanged, this would be the first major
title change in England.

they also mentioned if thats true, will Batista be dropped off as Team Leader and have The Undertaker replace him?

[carnage4u]

I just want to say i hate raw unlimited. I dont want to nor will I go to their website just to see what happens during commerical breaks> its a lame attempt to force more of their crapon thewebsite on us.

just my random thoughts on that :)

[KingMizfit]

from wrestlingonline newsletter, CONTAINS SPOILERS!!










they also mentioned if thats true, will Batista be dropped off as Team Leader and have The Undertaker replace him?

Batista may work the Survivor Series match still. I'm not against the Undertaker coming back to lead, and since he is scheduled to return at S.S. this may be the case. I wouldn't doubt that Batista will work the match though....
Either way...I think Orton will draw some good heat having the belt...and it'll be good to have a heel holding the belt for awhile. People will be absolutely salivating to see it get taken from him.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

i think Batista is going to take time off, so i dont think he'll be at SS.

[KingMizfit]

I know he's taking time off. He has a commitment at S.S. he'll be there. watch.

[jbailey84]

from pwrestlingnews.com

SPOILERS OF SMACKDOWN TAPING

WrestleMag.com for sending these in to us:

Smackdown!:

- Booker T vs. Chris Benoit for the United States Title went to a draw after two referees got involved and each counted a pinfall as both men had their shoulders on the mat. Teddy Long declared the title vacant and that Booker T vs. Benoit was made for Survivor Series as the first in a ‘Best of Seven’ match, with the winner being declared the new US Champion.

- The ***** beat Road Warrior Animal & Heidenreich

- Matt Hardy beat Ken Kennedy via DQ.

- Melina pinned Christy Hemme.

- Juventud beat Nunzio via pinfall to become the new WWE Cruiserweight Champion.

- William Regal & Paul Burchill vs. JBL & Rey Mysterio went to a no-contest after HBK, Carlito and Chris Masters invaded Smackdown! Carlito and Masters were sat at ringside before HBK hit the ring and superkicked JBL. Benoit, Animal, Heidenreich and Hardcore Holly hit the ring to make the save for Smackdown!.

- Bobby Lashley pinned Orlando Jordan in what was basically a squash match.

- Teddy Long ordered the entire Smackdown! roster to make their way to ringside ahead of tonight’s main event.

- Batista vs. Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Title went to a no contest after a huge brawl broke out between the entire RAW and Smackdown! rosters in the ring and around the ringside area.

A better show than last night's RAW show overall.

[KingMizfit]

No doubt. I was just talking about a Kennedy vs. Hardy match. Wierd.
Can't wait to see it...good looking out Bailey!

[insaneMoViEgoer]

im surprised they didnt have Batista drop the title.

[jbailey84]

im surprised they didnt have Batista drop the title. i know. WWE just released the Armageddon poster and it featured Batista on the cover, so maybe then?

[Roy_Bluth]

Does anyone know why they dropped the "King of the Ring"?

What would you guys do if they had Undertaker lose a Wrestlemania match before he retired?

[KingMizfit]

I'm not really sure. I think failed attempts to push Winners like Edge, and Billy Gunn might have had something to do with it. Not sure though. I highly doubt Taker will lose at Wrestlemania....he has too much stroke and respect backstage for anyone to even suggest he lose there.

I KNEW Batista was going to make it to Survivor Series. I admire him for working through his injury because he has a commitment to be there. Points for Batista from me.

[chewie]

Yep, kudo's to Batista. The Smackdown brand would be a lot weaker without him now.

[KingMizfit]

I have no doubt he'll be taking some time off....but not until after Survivor Series. I think he just wanted to live up to his commitments before he gets some rehab on his back.
Look for the title to change hands the Smackdown after S.S., or else it will be vacated and they will have a tournament for it...which I prefer.

[ChaCho]

All the bad comments about Eddie's death is just some really ignorant people. They say all that stuff because is no one on their family that have died.
Vince made a comment to the WWE superstars about Drug Examinations, and the only one that had something to say, not bad, was Ric Flair, he takes medications. Hes been wrestling and everything so this is about the comment about someone that might be sick. I will think is Ric Flair.

Batista is awsome man, on Raw what he did at the end, fighting Big Show and Kane... that was awsome!! that spinebuster was fresh!!!!!! love it
would be really sad if he loses the title anytime soon.
Undertaker will NEVER lose at Wrestlemania. Why? because hes the best there is

[jbailey84]

Look for the title to change hands the Smackdown after S.S., or else it will be vacated and they will have a tournament for it...which I prefer. i read somewhere that they might give the title to The Undertaker

[KingMizfit]

Well I hope they don't just "give" it to him...LOL...I know thats not what you meant. I have a feeling The Legend Killer will get it, then drop it to Taker at Armagedon.

[jbailey84]

^^^ i think thats the plan to be honest.

[KingMizfit]

I heard it's gonna be Hell in A Cell. One word.....SWEET!


Only problem is Taker has been kind of injury prone in the past couple years, and I'm not sure if the WWE is keen on having a Champ that could go down at any minute....I love the Taker....but he is getting aged. Still...another Title run wouldn't be out of the question I suppose. It would be his first Heavyweight{he's had the WWE title a few times, and one undisputed I believe} title run...and that would be cool.

[RedVader 2004]

On Raw i was ruting for Smackdown mostly due to Batista. I loved seeing Batista take Show and Kane to school with that Pipe. As fo Batista loosing i think its terrible he has to loose due to back trouble. Other wise he has gone unbeaten. Batista deserves to be called a champion win or loose. I think if he heals he should return to raw. I think Cena v/s Batista at wrestlemania 22 would eb great.

[jbailey84]

they can still have that match just have it interpromotional. but ive been reading who all thinks is going to win sunday, alot are in favor of Smackdown.

[ZombieMan]

I don't think that I'm going to watch Survivor Series. The card just doesn't look very good to me. :(

[jbailey84]

just thought i'd post my fav Survivor Series PPV'S

5. Survivor Series(1990)

Ultimate Warrior, Texas Tornado, Animal, and Hawk defeated Mr. Perfect, Ax, Smash, and Crush

Ted DiBiase, The Undertaker, Honkey Tonk Man, and Greg Valentine defeated Bret Hart, Jim Neidhart, Dusty Rhodes, and Koko B. Ware

Warlord, Rick Martel, Paul Roma, and Hercules defeated Shawn Michaels, Marty Jannetty, Jimmy Snuka, and Jake "The Snake" Roberts

Hulk Hogan, The Big Bossman, "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan, and Tugboat defeated Earthquake, Haku, The Barbarian, and Dino Bravo

Tito Santana, Nikolai Volkoff, Butch Bushwacker and Luke Bushwacker defeated Sgt. Slaughter, Tatanka, Sato, and Boris Zhokov

Survivors' Grand Finale:Hulk Hogan, The Ultimate Warrior, and Tito Santana defeated Warlord, Ted DiBiase, Hercules, Paul Roma, and Rick Martel


4. Survivor Series (1997)

The Godwinns, Road Dog, and "Bad Ass" Billy Gunn defeated The Headbangers and The New Blackjacks

The Truth Commission (Interrogator, Jackal, Sniper, Recon) defeated The Disciples of Apocylapse (Crush, Chainz, 8-Ball, Skull)

Team Canada (British Bulldog, Jim Neidhart, Doug Furnas, Phil LaFon) defeated Team USA (Vader, Marc Mero, Steve Blackmen, Goldust)

Kane defeated Mankind

Ahmed Johnson, Ken Shamrock, and The Legion of Doom defeated The New Nation of Domination (Faarooq, Kama Mustafa, D-Lo Brown, Rocky Maivia)

Steve Austin defeated Owen Hart to win the Intercontinental Title

Shawn Michaels defeated Bret Hart to become the new WWF World Champion


3. Survivor Series(1994)

Jerry Lawler, Quezy, Cheezy, and Sleazy defeated Doink, Dink, Wink, and Pink

King Kong Bundy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Tatanka, Tom Pritchard, and Jimmy Del Ray defeated Lex Luger, Mabel, Adam Bomb, Bart Gunn, and Billy Gunn

Razor Ramon, The British Bulldog, The 1-2-3 Kid, Fatu, and Seone defeated Diesel, Shawn Michaels, Jeff Jarrett, Owen Hart, and Jim Neidhart

The Undertaker defeated Yokozuna in a casket match

Bob Backlund defeated Bret Hart in a "Throw in the Towel" submission match to win the WWF World Title


2. Survivor Series(1996)

Free For All:Bart Gunn, Jesse Jammes, Aldo Montoya, and Bob Holly defeated Billy Gunn, The Sultan, Justin Bradshaw, and Salvatore Sincere

The Godwinns, Doug Furnas, and Phil LaFon defeated The British Bulldog, Owen Hart, Marty Jannetty, and Leif Cassidy

The Undertaker defeated Mankind

Rocky Maivia, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Marc Mero, and Barry Windham defeated Crush, Jerry "The King" Lawler, Goldust, and Hunter Hearst Helmsley

Bret Hart defeated Steve Austin

Faarooq, Fake Razor Ramon, Fake Diesel, and Vader fought Savio Vega, Yokozuna, Flash Funk, and mystery partner "Superfly" Jimmy Snuka to a double disqualification

Sycho Sid defeated Shawn Michaels to win the World Title


1. Survivor Series (2002)

Jeff Hardy, Spike Dudley & Buh-Buh Ray Dudley defeated Three Minute Warning & Rico Constantino in a "six man elimination tables match"
Billy Kidman pinned Jamie Knoble to win the WWE Cruiserweight title

Victoria pinned Trish Stratus in a "hardcore" match to win the WWE women's title

The Big Show pinned Brock Lesnar to win the WWE world title

Chavo Guerrero & Eddie Guerrero defeated Rey Misterio & Edge, and Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit to win the WWE tag team titles in a "three way"

*Elimination match*
Shawn Michaels defeated Hunter Hearst Helmsley, Booker T., Chris Jericho, Kane, and Rob Van Dam in an "Elimination Chamber" match to win the World heavyweight title. Order of elimination: Rob Van Dam (by Booker T), Booker T (by Jericho), Kane (by Jericho), Jericho (by Michaels), Triple H (by Michaels).

[ChaCho]

It sucks if Batista has to give up the title, much less to Randy Orton. I mean come on, thats just not fair for other Smackdown! superstars that would be better, like Benoit or The Undertaker. KingMizfit Undertaker is not getting old, hes been in the business for 15 years now and i get the same adrenaline from him then i did back then, he can have more than one run with the World Title.
On Raw i was also rooting for Smackdown, for the first time in my memory i wanted HBK to lose, ever. I just wanted him to lose coz what Team Raw has been doing. Otherwise i would have been chantin for that Sweet Chin Music.

Survivor Series Picks:

Women's Champion Trish Stratus vs. Melina - Melina is pretty hot, inside and outside of the ring. But Trish just hot all over, Trish will win.

Eric Bischoff vs. Theodore Long - LOL man i dunno. This is gonna be a funny match, I go with Teddy hes ma dawg.

Ric Flair vs. Triple H (Last Man Standing Match) - Damn i dunno, i would love to see Ric Flair win... but after Taboo Tuesday I think HHH is going to Survivor Series with all hes got. Plus he is younger and stronger than Flair. HHH wins.

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Kurt Angle - See a while ago i made my prediction that Cena and Batista would lose their titles at the same time, around Survivor Series. Batista unfortunely will lose his World Heavyweight Title on Friday and most unfortunely Cena will lose his title at Survivor Series to Angle. Angle is a coward, many say that Angle its at his prime in the WWE, but he knows he cant beat Cena one on one, so thats why he gets that little midget-suckup Daivari. Daivari will pull a fast one and Cena will lose.

RAW vs. SackDown Elimination Match -Man this match is gonna be off the chain like every Survivor Match, RAW vs SmackDown.. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SMACKDOWN WIN.... But I believe Smackdown will lose because of the greatest wrestler in the world... Yes.. The Undertaker. He is going to return on Survivor Series, just like I predicted, and Destroy Orton, and that unfortunely will be the X-Factor for Team Smackdown and they will lose, but hey i could be wrong...

[jbailey84]

i'll post my picks after smackdown is aired ;)

[Valkrine]

batista will not loose tonight trust me anyways i think that he wants to keep it after the death of eddie

[ZombieMan]

Women's Championship: Trish Stratus (c) vs. Melina
I pick Melina over Trish, and Mickie will probably interfere and screw it up for Trish. That should set their feud off, and make a heel turn for Mickie. Plus Melina has been getting pushed, and alot of fans really dig her.
Winner and new women's champion: Melina

Grudge Match: Eric Bischoff vs. Teddy Long
This match might be interesting, or it might be boring. But, surely Teddy has something up his sleeve for Eric and I think that Teddy will win. By cheating of course!!!
Winner: Teddy Long

Last Man Standing: Ric Flair vs. Triple H
Ehhhh....Triple H will win. He's probably itching for another W. I wish that he would just give it up and go away for a longer period of time.
Winner: Triple H

WWE Heavyweight Championship: John Cena (c) vs. Kurt Angle
I think that this match will be REALLLLY long, with alot of brutal wrestling holds from Angle. Also, I think that Angle will get the win, via Ankle Lock submission.
Winner and new WWE champ: Kurt Angle

Team Raw vs. Team Smackdown
I think that Team Smackdown will get the upset victory.

[ChaCho]

wow its incredible that after so many predictions and speculations Batista retained his World Title against Orton, and Im very glad he did... so that may mean im also wrong about Cena and Angle, and Now i change my pick, John Cena will win at Survivor Series.
I will also change my pick on the Elimination Match. After tonight i know SmackDown will win. See I saw how Orton battled, Mysterio battled, JBL battled, Lashley battled and Batista battled... I saw a great united team who will win againt RAW. See look at it this way, Raw has always ended, except for last monday, on top, by chockeslaming Batista. But see tonight we saw SmackDown went on so strong but always goes down by getting jumped from somewhere, like Batista getting jumped everytime by Kane and Big Show. Batista is so strong but he cant beat them two. On Sunday itll be all 10 of then starting off fairly corner on corner. It will be a different story then.

[ChaCho]

Survivor Series is here, lets hope this PPV turns out as good as I expect. Go SmackDown! Whooooo!!!

[KingMizfit]

Smackdown wins...sole survivor Randy Orton. Cena retains his title. HHH beats Ric Flair. Trish Stratus retains her title. Booker beats Benoit in match one out of seven. Teddy Long beats Eric B thanks to the Boogeyman. Undertaker returns...destroys Smackdowns locker room...but doesn't get his hands on Orton.

Meh.....same old same old.

[ZombieMan]

Sounds like a crappy pay-per-view. I read the results, because I didn't feel like buying it. The card didn't impress me one bit. I'm glad that I didn't buy it.

[KingMizfit]

I didn't purchase it either. This is basically the same thing we see on Raw and Smackdown every week. I find it irritating that guys like Kennedy,Hardy,Helms,and such were left of the card in favor of a teddy long vs Bischof match. Seems to me it could have been a tighter card...and man...I am sooooo sick of the Angle vs Cena beef. I heard the crowds reaction was mixed when Cena retained again......then....the Undertaker didn't make much of an impact at all. People thought he was going to help Smackdown and all he did was rough up the brands wrestlers.
Looks like Orton will be getting a title shot though....afterall...he was the sole survivior.

[ZombieMan]

I agree with you all the way Mizfit. I don't know what the WWE creative team is thinking, but its really starting to irritate me as well. Same old stuff, almost every week. Lets give the "jobbers" a chance to shine for once and make names for them. Get some really good grudge matches going. What happend to seeing the Mexicools on pay-per-view, or the new LOD? I would send the LOD to Raw and let them feud with Big Show/Kane, and also Cade & Murdoch. Throw Venis and Viscera into the tag team division again. Heck, send over Regal and Burchill. They don't use them on Smackdown anyhow, hardly. The cruiserweight division needs some deserving attention if you ask me. They have a LOAD of talent there, and don't use it. Paul London is the freakin' man, and now have a few new cruiserweights, including Kid Kash. Yeah, Kash has a bad attitude towards the business backstage but he can wrestle up a storm.

[KingMizfit]

All true my friend. I think it sucks they make us pay for title fights that have the exact same outcome month after month. Raw better be good tonight, because Honestly SmackDown is getting better and better....

One thing I'm wondering about....after the beating Ric Flair took last night....how can they call this guy the I.C. Champion? They need to have some of the boys backstage step up and get a shot at that strap.

[ZombieMan]

All true my friend. I think it sucks they make us pay for title fights that have the exact same outcome month after month. Raw better be good tonight, because Honestly SmackDown is getting better and better....

One thing I'm wondering about....after the beating Ric Flair took last night....how can they call this guy the I.C. Champion? They need to have some of the boys backstage step up and get a shot at that strap.

I agree about Smackdown getting better than Raw. I'm enjoying Smackdown better myself even. As for the IC title, it was cool to have Flair win it. But yeah, its already getting old and they need to let someone else have a shot. It was nice to see my buddy Trevor Murdoch get a shot at Flair last week, but I don't think it was even a title match. I would give the title to Chavo Guerrero and push him further. He has been in this business for years and deserves a break for once. He can't always be a "pee-on". I'm tired of them never giving him much of a chance. He can wrestle with the best of them.

[KingMizfit]

Yeah Chavo can go...he had a good series of matches with Shelton Benjamin a while back......then they had him doing nothing. It was good to see him on Smackdown during the tribute show.
I was stoked to see Flair win the strap too....but he hasn't really had any Great title defenses at all. It sucks because they could do so much more with that division.
Wonder what Angle will be doing now that they have let Cena make him look bad again......I'm hoping for a Rematch tonight...or else some new opponent for Cena.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

they really need to push shelton. he was great as IC champ and his match with angle, not the one with daivari, was a classic.

[ZombieMan]

I have to say that I'm very excited to see Shane O' Mac back!!! This could be really exciting if he becomes the GM of Raw. Also, I'm glad to see Trevor getting a push, and getting away from Lance Cade. Lance is a good wrestler and needs a push of his own, and I think that they should send him over to Smackdown. They could use Cade's talent on Smackdown if you ask me.

[KingMizfit]

Last night was good. I see Murdoch won....a win over Shelton is a pretty big deal IMO.Honestly I am getting really frustrated with the whole "invincible" Cena angle. They would like us to believe that dude could survive a nuclear holocaust!
I'm tired of them making Angle look like crap.
Also...since when is HHH scared of the Big Show. I remeber when dude kicked him in the nads and then hit the Pedigree to win the WWE Title.....now he's scared.
Ruining HHH'S character IMO....he's a slimeball.....but not a coward.
Oh well....it was a decent show......The Smackdown special is on tonight...I wonder if the Game will show up and screw the Big Show. That would rule.....

[ZombieMan]

Last night was good. I see Murdoch won....a win over Shelton is a pretty big deal IMO.Honestly I am getting really frustrated with the whole "invincible" Cena angle. They would like us to believe that dude could survive a nuclear holocaust!
I'm tired of them making Angle look like crap.
Also...since when is HHH scared of the Big Show. I remeber when dude kicked him in the nads and then hit the Pedigree to win the WWE Title.....now he's scared.
Ruining HHH'S character IMO....he's a slimeball.....but not a coward.
Oh well....it was a decent show......The Smackdown special is on tonight...I wonder if the Game will show up and screw the Big Show. That would rule.....

I agree about them making Cena invincible, as I'm not his biggest fan. Actually, I want him to lose the title because I'm sick of him. They are totally making Angle look like crap and it pisses me off. He's a great wrestler and he deserves better than this. About Triple H, yeah I didn't understand why they are making him look like a coward. Is the Big Show really THAT scary? Come on, little Rey is going to take him on tonight, lol.

[KingMizfit]

Matsers and Angle should have just teamed up and did Cena in. Angle could have promised a Title Shot to Masters if he helped beat Cena or something.
The whole thing was just a Spot so that Eric B will get fired.
Is Rey vs Show the only match onthat special tonight?

[ZombieMan]

Is Rey vs Show the only match onthat special tonight?

Nahhh, Booker T and Chris Benoit are having their second match, from their best of 7 series. Booker is up 1-0. But I'm sure that there are other matches too. :)

[ZombieMan]

Double post...I know, but I just watched a video on WWE.COM and its an interview with Trevor Murdoch after his big win last night over Shelton Benjamin. Trevor says that he is going after Ric Flair and his Intercontinental title, so it looks like Trevor will continue to get that big push. I figure that the reason he is being pushed so much is because he has been in the wrestling business for 9 years now, and is Harley's first graduate of the academy. WWE officials and wrestlers both seem to favor Trevor alot backstage as well. I had no knowledge that Trevor would get THIS big of a push towards the IC title, LOL. Very cool, very very cool!

[KingMizfit]

Did you guys hear Ric Flair has a warrant out for his arrest? Apparently he attacked a motorist and his car in a fit of road rage.

HTTP://www.wrestlezone.com

[ZombieMan]

Yeah, I heard about that and he's denying that it even happend.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

did i miss something? when did cade and murdoch split?

[KingMizfit]

I don't know.....It's been two weeks in a row that Murdoch has been solo.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

must have been one of their unlimited things.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

very big spoilers: Royal Rumble winner revealed
The Randy Orton push will be going into maximum overdrive as he is penciled in to win the 2006 Royal Rumble in Miami, Florida. Orton will then go on to Wrestlemania to take on Batista for the World Heavyweight Title. He is expected to defeat Batista and take home the gold. WWE is very adament about making up for Orton's first title reign in 2004, which they consider to be disappointing. WWE feels that Orton will be one of the top stars of the future. Batista is 40 years and WWE feels his days on top are limited.

Also, it doesn't look like Cena is losing his WWE title anytime soon as he is expected to retain it past Wrestlemania and beyond. He is scheduled to take on Triple H and defeat him

i hope the Cena bit isn't true.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Well that guy is getting old...I'm sick of him now.

[KingMizfit]

I'm cool with the Orton thing....but that Cena news kills me. Where are those spoilers from IMG? I had no idea Batista was 40.....

[insaneMoViEgoer]

they're from various wrestling news sites. where they get them, i dont know.

[chewie]

Batista turns 40 in January. If his body holds up he looks like he can go for a while.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

he could probably go longer then Flair :P

[jbailey84]

I'm cool with the Orton thing....but that Cena news kills me. i agree with you on that. i was hoping they'd let Angle win the title or atleast Jericho when he was active. to be honest i actually wouldnt mind seeing Carlito as champ, just as long as its not Cena. i used to like Cena, but hes getting old!!!

[jbailey84]

at wwe.com they have a video of some highlights on Smackdown for friday, real intersting how this Orton/Taker is going.

[Roy_Bluth]

Batista being 40 has nothing to do with it, look at Flair and Hogan, what are they 70 now? And they're still going strong, at least Flair is. Plus it looks like Batista takes care of himself, I just hope he's not a juicer.

What's the update on Brock Lesnar and Goldberg?

[ZombieMan]

Batista being 40 has nothing to do with it, look at Flair and Hogan, what are they 70 now? And they're still going strong, at least Flair is. Plus it looks like Batista takes care of himself, I just hope he's not a juicer.

What's the update on Brock Lesnar and Goldberg?

I don't think that Batista is a juicer, as his body doesn't show any signs that I can see. Now the WWE has the new drug rules too, so it would be hard for him to get by with it. As for Lesnar and Goldberg. I haven't heard ANYTHING about Lesnar lately and I really don't care. Goldberg is probably still shooting crappy movies. ;)

[KingMizfit]

I don't think that Batista is a juicer, as his body doesn't show any signs that I can see. Now the WWE has the new drug rules too, so it would be hard for him to get by with it. As for Lesnar and Goldberg. I haven't heard ANYTHING about Lesnar lately and I really don't care. Goldberg is probably still shooting crappy movies. ;)


Goldberg and Lesnar are working shows in Japan. You know...where they can have things their way. For as big as these dudes are...they sure complain and moan alot.......

Dang...Orton screwed the Taker up last night! He jacked him up with a tire Iron,then backed the Lowrider into the stage and the friggin car blew up!
It was a cool spot.....and I know noone was expecting Orton to draw first blood in this continued rivalry.
All signs point to a Orton/Taker championship match soon......
Haven't heard it confirmed yet....but Orton may take the strap from Batista this Friday...or else Taker will interfere and prolong it a bit longer.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

All signs point to a Orton/Taker championship match soon......
Haven't heard it confirmed yet....but Orton may take the strap from Batista this Friday...or else Taker will interfere and prolong it a bit longer.
didnt you read the spoilers i posted? Orton's going to win the rumble, so no title victory soon

[ChaCho]

Survivor Series to me was really good. I always order Survivor Series, Royal Rumble, SummerSlam and Wrestlemania, i ordered the other ppv when im bored thats it. I saw nothing wrong with the PPV. Undertaker made a return so impactious it was crazy, i thought he wasnt gonna come out because the PPV was close to ending.
Mondays RAW was aiight only two things got me hyped, one Big Show threatening HHH, that was really cool, they always had good matches before when it was WWF. And second John Cena beating Angle and Masters on the Triple Threat it was tight.
Ive been reading people putting the results from Smackdown, dont do that, do what everyone used to do put in highlight to see if people want to read it. dont put it like that it ruines the show for people.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

didnt you read the spoilers i posted? Orton's going to win the rumble, so no title victory soon
for get what i said there:
Devin Grandchamp sent word that commercials have been running in Rhode Island for the upcoming WWE Armageddon PPV on December 18. The commercial is plugging that The Undertaker and Randy Orton will square off in a Hell in a Cell Match for the "vacated" World Heavyweight Title. Batista is listed as the special guest referee and former World Champion for the contest.

[KingMizfit]

It is rumored this match will take place at Armaggedon too. Bottomline is...I'll watch that match
anytime anywhere....

I just hope that Batista takes the time he needs to heal soon....It was great that he did the P.P.V even though he shouldn't have....but he needs to think about the future and chill for a minute.

[jbailey84]

yeah i hope he doesnt risk too much on his back. i prefer Batista with the title rather than Cena. the rumored match for Armageddon...will be sweet!

[KingMizfit]

cha Cho...those weren't Smackdown spoilers I Posted....that happened last night on the Smackdown Tuesday night special....if thats what you were talking about.

[ChaCho]

my bad i didnt see it last night so i spaced out a little on what was going on in the WWE.
That rumored match... damn that will be freakin cool