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DangerMouse

07-05-2005, 11:16 AM

Agreed, and finally I won't catch **** for booing him.

(Bret Hart fan for life here.)

That whole thing could've been avoided had Mr. Hart checked his ego at the door.

1. He had signed with WCW and was leaving.

2. He was the WWF champion at the time and had to drop the belt before he left.

3. It was at a Pay Per View and Bret Hart wouldn't agree to a loss. He had the audacity to insist on some sort of DQ so he could retain the belt....at a freeking pay per view? What's Vince gonna do? Let his champion take the WWF belt over the WCW?

I'm sorry but the only person that S*rewed Bret Hart is Bret Hart.

The fact that Bret Hart, to this day, still whines about what happened, while his fans act like a bunch of lemings chanting "You s*rewed Bret" over and over again, lessens his legacy and his career in my eyes.

I'm not overly a fan of HBK, but this whole "Bret got s*rewed" is the biggest "wool over the eyes", one-sided, BS session, I've ever seen in my life.

Both Bret Hart and his fans need to "get over it".

It's as much Bret Hart's fault as it was anyone elses and I for one don't feel a bit sorry for him.

RedVader 2004

07-05-2005, 12:03 PM

I hope Hogan takes HBK to school. It be cool if Cena Wrestled HBk next week or the Rock made an appearance.

jbailey84

07-05-2005, 01:03 PM

That whole thing could've been avoided had Mr. Hart checked his ego at the door.

1. He had signed with WCW and was leaving.

2. He was the WWF champion at the time and had to drop the belt before he left.

3. It was at a Pay Per View and Bret Hart wouldn't agree to a loss. He had the audacity to insist on some sort of DQ so he could retain the belt....at a freeking pay per view? What's Vince gonna do? Let his champion take the WWF belt over the WCW?

I'm sorry but the only person that S*rewed Bret Hart is Bret Hart.

The fact that Bret Hart, to this day, still whines about what happened, while his fans act like a bunch of lemings chanting "You s*rewed Bret" over and over again, lessens his legacy and his career in my eyes.

I'm not overly a fan of HBK, but this whole "Bret got s*rewed" is the biggest "wool over the eyes", one-sided, BS session, I've ever seen in my life.

Both Bret Hart and his fans need to "get over it".

It's as much Bret Hart's fault as it was anyone elses and I for one don't feel a bit sorry for him. so agree with u!
looks like we just might see HBK Vs Hogan at Summer Slam?

slinger

07-05-2005, 05:09 PM

Good Night.
exactly 2 seconds before shawn kicked hogan I said to our group of people at our house.

"It would be great if right now shawn superkicked hogan"

and it happened. i now control wrestling.. lol

and why did they have to go and break chavo?

When HBK tagged Hogan in at the end of the match, I thought they should have HBK turn heel someday against Hogan. Didn't think it would be tonight, but satisfied they did.

I read today that Cena/Edge is likely for SummerSlam with HHH set for after. However, here in Canada last night for the upcoming SD!/RAW shows (August) in Ontario they promoted a inter-brand tag match Batista/Cena vs JBL/HHH for each night. Now that could change, but you never know.

Chavo should just quit, because with this Kerwin White thing, he's done.

Warren

07-05-2005, 06:03 PM

Yeah, he should get his ass to TNA.

DangerMouse

07-05-2005, 06:29 PM

Who's Kerwin White?

I forgot to TiVo RAW last night before I blew stuff up, so I'm a little behind.

sandman441

07-05-2005, 07:30 PM

Who's Kerwin White?

I forgot to TiVo RAW last night before I blew stuff up, so I'm a little behind.

It's Chavo he changed his name and denounced his latino heritage.

insaneMoViEgoer

07-05-2005, 08:43 PM

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/newsarticle.php?page=122615142

the following was posted this evening on WWE.com:

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to agreements on the release of the following Superstars, WWE would like to wish them the best in their future endeavors.

Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman

i actually enjoyed watching maven. he always made me laugh :( and i didnt know gangrel was still under contract.

DangerMouse

07-05-2005, 09:38 PM

Billy Kidman???!!!!!! :eek:

That'll put a strain on the ole Tori/Kidman marriage.

Ouch.

Halofan1

07-05-2005, 11:04 PM

That whole thing could've been avoided had Mr. Hart checked his ego at the door.

1. He had signed with WCW and was leaving.

2. He was the WWF champion at the time and had to drop the belt before he left.

3. It was at a Pay Per View and Bret Hart wouldn't agree to a loss. He had the audacity to insist on some sort of DQ so he could retain the belt....at a freeking pay per view? What's Vince gonna do? Let his champion take the WWF belt over the WCW?

I'm sorry but the only person that S*rewed Bret Hart is Bret Hart.

The fact that Bret Hart, to this day, still whines about what happened, while his fans act like a bunch of lemings chanting "You s*rewed Bret" over and over again, lessens his legacy and his career in my eyes.

I'm not overly a fan of HBK, but this whole "Bret got s*rewed" is the biggest "wool over the eyes", one-sided, BS session, I've ever seen in my life.

Both Bret Hart and his fans need to "get over it".

It's as much Bret Hart's fault as it was anyone elses and I for one don't feel a bit sorry for him.

1. VINCE TOLD HIM TO SIGN WITH WCW.

2. They had it planned where he wouldn't drop the belt and give a farewell to the fans as the champ.

3. Bret would NEVER, and I mean NEVER have brought the belt over to WCW. Vince should have known he had enough respect for the company. And furthermore, Bret didn't want to leave WWF it wasn't til after Vince told him to that he signed with WCW.

slinger

07-05-2005, 11:56 PM

Wow. Maven really disapeared after Survivor Series. Heel turn came too late and should've been with Evolution. Still he won't be forgotten, 1st Tough Enough Champ and then eliminating Taker at the Rumble.

1. VINCE TOLD HIM TO SIGN WITH WCW.

2. They had it planned where he wouldn't drop the belt and give a farewell to the fans as the champ.

3. Bret would NEVER, and I mean NEVER have brought the belt over to WCW. Vince should have known he had enough respect for the company. And furthermore, Bret didn't want to leave WWF it wasn't til after Vince told him to that he signed with WCW.

Bret will admit that Vince was right that WCW wouldn't know what to do with him. And yes Bret would've never done that, but its in the past and without that incident they're probably would've never had Austin/Vince and everything that came from that.

ZombieMan

07-05-2005, 11:56 PM

With all of the releases, I'm most upset with Spike Dudley, Maven, and Gangrel's releases. I was all excited about Gangrel getting re-signed a little while back and now he is already gone? Thats total bull****. I wanted to at least see him a little bit, and he's way more worthy of TV time than Viscera if you ask me. Spike Dudley was a good performer for a man of his size, and he always entertained me. Maven was really kicking it up a notch and getting better and better as time went. I enjoyed watching him as well, and I will miss seeing him around.

insaneMoViEgoer

07-06-2005, 12:12 AM

what really gets me mad is how they release all these wrestlers due to cost, yet have a diva search and Chris Masters.

ZombieMan

07-06-2005, 12:46 AM

^^^ Yeah, Chris Masters isn't that good of a wrestler just yet. He needs alot of improvement. Who knows what will happen with him.

Halofan1

07-06-2005, 01:07 AM

Wow. Maven really disapeared after Survivor Series. Heel turn came too late and should've been with Evolution. Still he won't be forgotten, 1st Tough Enough Champ and then eliminating Taker at the Rumble.

Bret will admit that Vince was right that WCW wouldn't know what to do with him. And yes Bret would've never done that, but its in the past and without that incident they're probably would've never had Austin/Vince and everything that came from that.

That is a good point, but what pisses me off about HBK is that he lied to Bret about his knowledge of it and came out and said "Yes I knew about it." without an apology to Hart.

DangerMouse

07-06-2005, 09:55 AM

1. VINCE TOLD HIM TO SIGN WITH WCW.

Yes he did. Mostly because he couldn't afford to match what WCW was going to pay him. That was the MOD for WCW's rise. They stole WWF superstars by paying them a great deal more than what there were getting under Vince.

2. They had it planned where he wouldn't drop the belt and give a farewell to the fans as the champ.

Correction. BRET HART had it planned. I've seen the back stage footage of what went on. Basically it was all "St. Bret" calling the shots back stage and his big beef was not dropping the belt in Canada. There was no guarantee that "St. Bret" was even going to appear on WWF Television again.

3. Bret would NEVER, and I mean NEVER have brought the belt over to WCW. Vince should have known he had enough respect for the company. And furthermore, Bret didn't want to leave WWF it wasn't til after Vince told him to that he signed with WCW.

Of course he wouldn't have brought the WWF belt over to WCW. But by the looks of what went on prior to the infamous match, he wasn't going to drop the belt prior to leaving.

Had to much respect for the WWF? Regardless of weather or not he was wearing the WWF belt when he made his first appearence on Nitro, he still would've been recognized as the current WWF champ and the WCW announce crew would've milked that for all it was worth. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised that the WCW encouraged Bret not to drop the belt prior to coming over. We're talking about the same company that announced RAW spoilers on Nitro.

The correct call was for "St. Bret" to drop the belt cleanly at the PPV to Shawn Michaels. But we all know that "St. Bret" didn't and Vince was put iin a position where he had to get the WWF around the waist of a WWF superstar.

Yes, there was some dishonesty on the part of Vince McMahon and HBK. But Bret Hart is not 100% innocent either.

And his "woe is me" act is old as are all of his fans that can't seem to understand that Bret Hart had more to do with Bret Hart getting s*rewed than Vince of HBK did.

You leave a company to wrestle for another company, you drop the belt. End of story.

carnage4u

07-06-2005, 10:40 AM

ah.. the bret/anti bret wars continue.

it a great storyline and only sad by his current condition and that bad luck of his family.

it be beyond words if ever showed up a wwe event.

ZombieMan

07-06-2005, 10:42 AM

I would be shocked if he ever showed up at a WWE event. I personally don't think that it will ever happen and it might be in Bret's best interest to stay away from Vince completely anyhow.

ilovecandace

07-06-2005, 01:29 PM

hey do u guys think the rock will return at all ?

Warren

07-06-2005, 01:31 PM

Uh, not any time soon.

ilovecandace

07-06-2005, 01:37 PM

brock lesnar is meeting with the wwe officals finally

Warren

07-06-2005, 02:07 PM

Officially, Matt Morgan and the Dudley Boyz have been released.

insaneMoViEgoer

07-06-2005, 02:35 PM

even more releases

Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/newsarticle.php?page=122680528

Warren

07-06-2005, 03:13 PM

The ones released so far:

Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Bubba Ray Dudley
D-Von Dudley
Kevin Fertig

And more to come!

ZombieMan

07-06-2005, 03:36 PM

Goooooood god, this is becoming bull****. The WWE has axed some real good talent in my opinion. All of the Dudleys have been released, which sort of shocks me. Yet they have been around for awhile and accomplished alot of goals, I don't know what else they could do. It sucks to see them go though. Marty Jannetty getting the axe really pisses me off, he's such a talented wrestler DAMNIT! Charlie Haas being released also surprises the hell out of me. He has been in the WWE for quite sometime and worked for OVW alot. Matt Morgan just started with the company not too long ago on Smackdown, I'm surprised at his release. More releases to come? Who's next??? I say release those two idiots "The Heart Throbs" from Raw, if they are gonna release anyone. How about axing Kenzo Suzuki? I can't stand him. I have a bad feeling in my stomach saying Val Venis could be next, and if he is, then that will really set me off. Venis needs a strong push. Scotty 2 Hotty should get his release, they don't ever use him anymore and he did get old to me anyhow. What I don't get is that the WWE just signed Big Vito. I don't see the point in that with all of the low to mid-carder firings going on.

insaneMoViEgoer

07-06-2005, 04:06 PM

aparantly one of the reasons for the releases is to have some money for Brock Lesnar :rolleyes:

DangerMouse

07-06-2005, 04:12 PM

No more Dudley's?

Well, there goes the whole "ECW revival" idea.

If they plan on doing it, it won't be for a while.

ZombieMan

07-06-2005, 09:44 PM

I just read this on www.lordsofpain.net and apparently it came off of Spike Dudley's website. Most of this is soooo freakin' true as well. Especially him getting hurt all the time by "upcoming superstars" that look good but can't wrestle worth a ****.

I'M BACK!!!!!!!!

And in more ways than one. First, yes I'm gone from the WWE. Does it sting? Hell, yeah. Especially since I've always been one of their "model" employees. It makes sense that I was released, I don't *****, moan, groan or suck. I just didn't fit in with what the WWE puts on tv. No, I'm only kidding(but not really). It was my turn and that's the nature of the beast. The WWE is a sinking ship. Cursed by owning 100% of the industry, I can see how they couldn't afford my outrageous salary in these times of number crunching. Hey, they gave me a great oppurtunity and maybe I didn't make the most of it. That's life. At first I was pissed, but I woke up this morning feeling, I don't know, alive. Check this out, this morning I woke up and visioned having a wrestling match without a script. I visioned going to an arena and actually having fun again. I visioned not having to go to the hospital after being hurt by a "future" WWE superstar who may look good but have the wrestling ability of a dead walrus. I visioned pitching an angle without having to get approval from writers who 6 years ago were buying ECW tickets and making signs(it's true). Hell, I visioned blading!!! I really don't want to burn bridges(if I haven't already) and all that, but that company sucks the life out of you and then spits you out. Enough on them.

I want to love wreslting again. I want to be passionate about the business. It's been so good to me, I want to give back. I don't know how yet, but it will happen.

Right now, I'm going to chill. I've got some time to sit back and re-evaluate life, smell some roses and get my head straight. I doubt you've seen the last of me. And if anything it's a blessing. Nothing sucks worse than working for a company that doesn't respect you. Paul E.(God bless him) proved that to me. Now I don't have to worry about it.

Majik, you f'n rock. Big boost this morning, thank you. I"ll be in touch.

Everyone in Dudlyeville, you all are the best. My many thanks to everyone for the support and love you've shown. Now that I'm on my own I will be back more often, so it's fun time.
I can't name everyone but you know who you are. Keep the faith, and if anyone is hiring get in touch.

Thanks guys,

Spike "no more tears" Dudley

ZombieMan

07-06-2005, 09:52 PM

Updated list of WWE superstars that have been cut, and 3 more have been added. Now, Kenzo Suzuki, Hiroko, and Joy Giovanni.

18 wrestlers/divas have been released from their WWE contracts within the past 24 hours, making this the biggest firing spree in WWE history. As if 18 wasn't enough, the party is not over. Dave Meltzer is reporting that 8 to 10 more people are set to get cut. You guys may want to make a "cut pool" for kicks.

Anyways, here is the complete list of the 18 wrestlers that have been released in the last two days to help you keep track of this huge mess of WWE Superstar departures.

* Bubba Dudley
* D-Von Dudley
* Joy Giovanni
* Kenzo Suzuki
* Hiroko
* Matt Morgan
* Charlie Haas
* Jackie Gayda
* Marty Jannetty
* Dawn Marie
* Mark Jindrak
* Maven
* Shannon Moore
* James Yun (Akio)
* David Heath (Gangrel)
* Billy Kidman
* Spike Dudley
* Kevin Fertig

Dave Meltzer is reporting that 8-10 more people will be released. Here are my guesses below, I'm gonna make some predictions.
1. Antonio
2. Romeo
3. Danny Basham
4. Doug Basham
5. Val Venis (God, I hope not.)
6. Ivory
7. Rob Conway (Wouldn't be a smart move, he has talent.)
8. Viscera
9. Candice
10. Steven Richards (I would hate to see this, but he is under used.)

Halofan1

07-06-2005, 10:30 PM

Correction. BRET HART had it planned. I've seen the back stage footage of what went on. Basically it was all "St. Bret" calling the shots back stage and his big beef was not dropping the belt in Canada. There was no guarantee that "St. Bret" was even going to appear on WWF Television again.

Then why did Vince agree to it, and tell Bret that's how they were going to do it?

Of course he wouldn't have brought the WWF belt over to WCW. But by the looks of what went on prior to the infamous match, he wasn't going to drop the belt prior to leaving.

Correction: he wasn't going to drop it to SHAWN MICHAELS. Bret didn't have a problem dropping it to anyone else not named Shawn Michaels. The report coming from the backstage was Michaels was an ******* and anything he wanted, he got. I remember one time he told Vince he didn't want to wrestle Bret one night due to a "ankle injury" and he got it. It was later found out that he COULD have worked that night.

Had to much respect for the WWF? Regardless of weather or not he was wearing the WWF belt when he made his first appearence on Nitro, he still would've been recognized as the current WWF champ and the WCW announce crew would've milked that for all it was worth. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised that the WCW encouraged Bret not to drop the belt prior to coming over. We're talking about the same company that announced RAW spoilers on Nitro.

And you saw how much announcing spoilers helped Nitro in the ratings.

The correct call was for "St. Bret" to drop the belt cleanly at the PPV to Shawn Michaels. But we all know that "St. Bret" didn't and Vince was put iin a position where he had to get the WWF around the waist of a WWF superstar.

Again, he didn't want to drop it to Shawn Michaels because backstage they couldn't stand the other. Sure, that falls under Hart and pride, but the point is Vince could have stuck with the plan he and Hart AGREED to. Vince knew the plan and told Bret that's what they were going to do.

Yes, there was some dishonesty on the part of Vince McMahon and HBK. But Bret Hart is not 100% innocent either.

And his "woe is me" act is old as are all of his fans that can't seem to understand that Bret Hart had more to do with Bret Hart getting s*rewed than Vince of HBK did.

You leave a company to wrestle for another company, you drop the belt. End of story.

Bret Hart had little to do with him getting screwed other than being told what to do. Vince told him to go to WCW, and Vince agreed to "his" plan as you put it. If Vince had a problem with what Hart suggested, then he should have told him "We'll do it this way." Yeah sure, Bret Hart's Canadian pride got in the way a bit, but that's not worse than two guys lying to his face about what was going to happen. Even Michaels didn't like it, but he agreed to it as well. He has every right to be mad about it because regardless of what people on Vince's **** say, HE DID GET SCREWED.

Halofan1

07-06-2005, 10:32 PM

I would be shocked if he ever showed up at a WWE event. I personally don't think that it will ever happen and it might be in Bret's best interest to stay away from Vince completely anyhow.

Deep down, I would love to see it happen but it's highly unlikely.

Then again, Pink Floyd said they'd never get together again. :D

DangerMouse

07-06-2005, 11:21 PM

WTF is going on with WWE?

They are really cutting the budget.

Anyone think they're going to cut until they start having RAW and Smackdown co-mingle again?

I really wonder just what the heck is going on.

Halofan1

07-06-2005, 11:26 PM

LS2002

07-06-2005, 11:38 PM

# he Dudley Boyz, Bubba Ray and D’Von Dudley, were released because their contracts were coming up next month and they couldn't agree to money terms with WWE. With domestic house show business being horrible, this is no time to being asking for a raise. The Dudleyz are said to be looking at TNA and Japan as future options.

# Marty Jannetty was released because of a domestic incident last month. Well that and that they just didn't know how to fit him into WWE storylines as he was sitting on the sidelines for about three months.

# Dawn Marie had her contract bought out due to her forthcoming pregnancy. Plus with the Diva Search, WWE is getting the feeling that just about all the divas are expendable. Out with the old, in with the new. It didn't do Dawn Marie any favors that she happens to be 33 years old and aging with each passing year and WWE seems to be looking for hot 20-something's nowadays. Plus, many fans have noted at house shows that she was getting out of shape while observing her during bikini contests, although her pregnancy had to have played a part in her weight gain.

carnage4u

07-07-2005, 10:18 AM

They really got rid of some talented wrestling for some flashy annoying wrestlers.

only diva ill miss is Joy(i found her cute) but honestly no big loss.

they gotta stop dumping everyone..

im sure TNA is pissing themselves with joy over this though.

ZombieMan

07-07-2005, 10:23 AM

I really wonder just what the heck is going on.

I have an idea of what is going on. I'd say that its because they will need extra money to pay off Brock Lesnar when they bring him back. That SOB demands a ton of money, maybe more than any other wrestler even in the business. I personally don't think that he is worth it. I could care less if he comes back or not, I would rather have some of these guys back that got fired.

ZombieMan

07-07-2005, 10:24 AM

im sure TNA is pissing themselves with joy over this though.

Hahahaha, I'm sure that your right on that! TNA has got to be extra happy. :) Hopefully TNA picks up Spike, D-Von, and Bubba Dudley. Also I would like to see Charlie Haas, Maven, Shannon Moore, Gangrel, and Billy Kidman there. I think that Kidman and Moore would fit into the X Divison pretty well.

Warren

07-07-2005, 10:32 AM

I have an idea of what is going on. I'd say that its because they will need extra money to pay off Brock Lesnar when they bring him back. That SOB demands a ton of money, maybe more than any other wrestler even in the business. I personally don't think that he is worth it. I could care less if he comes back or not, I would rather have some of these guys back that got fired.

Actually it's because RAW is moving to the USA Network, and they'll lose a lot of money from that so they have to lay off some workers.

ZombieMan

07-07-2005, 10:34 AM

^^^ Ahhhhh gotcha! Well, now that would make some sense.

glsspder

07-07-2005, 10:50 AM

There is something wrong with finger placment in this picture :D

http://www.prowrestlingnews.com/images/galleries/ggw/022.jpg

chewie

07-07-2005, 11:15 AM

I'd like to see Brock come back. We'll see if any more people get released. The last time I saw the count it was up to 15.

carnage4u

07-07-2005, 11:21 AM

LS2002

07-07-2005, 11:26 AM

Its actually up to 18 now. Here are all the People that have been Released by the WWE.
Mark Lloyd
BubbaDudley
D-Von Dudley
Joy Giovanni
Kenzo Suzuki
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Kevin Fertig

jbailey84

07-07-2005, 11:28 AM

yeah i wouldnt mind seeing Brock come back. seeing him and HHH feud would be cool. so would a Brock and Batista feud

beyond_th3

07-07-2005, 08:43 PM

I dont really like TNA now.. too much bad talent there and washups. but now with more real talent being let go, it can only help them. gotta wonder if vince wants them to do a little better for some real compettion to try to bring back some wrestling wars to help ratings.

I try to watch it for the x division, which alone, is more entertaining than most matches on wwe but everytime I look and see that "Double J" is the man, it sickens me. He annoys me and I can't believe that he is the champ.

BWSword

07-07-2005, 09:53 PM

I believe if brock came back...wouldn't he go to smackdown??

sandman441

07-07-2005, 09:57 PM

everytime I look and see that "Double J" is the man, it sickens me. He annoys me and I can't believe that he is the champ.

I agree with you I can't stand jeff jarrett but he isn't champion right now Raven is.

jbailey84

07-08-2005, 04:43 AM

I believe if brock came back...wouldn't he go to smackdown?? thats what the talk is going around. i had read somewhere that that is where he felt was "home" since most of his WWE career was on smackdown.

ZombieMan

07-08-2005, 09:52 AM

Speaking of Spike Dudley earlier, I e-mailed him today for the promotion that I work for, to possibly do a show for us after his 90 day clause is up with WWE. I wonder how much his booking fee is going to be. I'm interested and can't wait to see how he responds. :)

jbailey84

07-08-2005, 11:33 AM

so far there are 3 matches announced for Smackdowns Great American Bash

(from rajah.com)

World Heavyweight Championship Match
Batista vs. John Bradshaw Layfield

The Undertaker vs. Muhammad Hassan
Note: The winner of this match earns a shot at the champion at Summerslam.

U.S Championship Match
Orlando Jordan vs. Chris Benoit

ZombieMan

07-08-2005, 12:09 PM

Actually, believe it or not. I think that those 3 matches sound pretty good. I might consider ordering Great American Bash, and I never thought that I would say that.

filmstudent04

07-08-2005, 01:00 PM

two things....
1) Jim Cornette was fired recently because he slapped some students multiple times...and
2) the Hassan/ Undertaker match...who do people think will win that match considering that the winner gets a shot at summerslam? that's a tough one to call

DangerMouse

07-08-2005, 01:58 PM

If I were to predict the Hassan/Undertaker match, I'd say Hassan wins it thanks to Randy Orton and then JBL helps Hassan beat Batista at Summerslam.

Hassan ends up being part of JBL's new "cabinet".

FVD

07-09-2005, 03:32 AM

Jesus Christ I can't get over all them axings. There were some high profile talent there. And yes I agree Zombie Kenzo Suzuki sucks ass.

And so much for Marty Janetty's return. :(

I'm getting sick of these Diva Talent search competitions. Get rid of them. :mad:

Halofan1

07-09-2005, 03:47 AM

It'll be Taker... the WWE needs to justify to the fans why Batista was moved to Smackdown... and a Batista vs. Taker match... or even feud would be immensely popular.

Ortons interference will either turn it into a 3 way or cost Batista the belt at Summerslam... then Orton vs. Taker resumes.

Plus there is the fact that people just plain don't like Hassan ;)

Batista will beat JBL... no question in my mind about it.

I'd put money on Benoit over Jordan... Jordan has the skill to be champion... but what has he done with it? Then watch for Booker vs. Benoit to start up.

Batista vs. Taker vs. Orton would be awesome and that's more than likely what's going to happen. SmackDown would sky rocket in ratings.

sub-zero

07-09-2005, 04:41 PM

no, taker vs. batista vs. randy orton vs. john cena.

insaneMoViEgoer

07-09-2005, 06:34 PM

why would john cena be in that match?

jbailey84

07-09-2005, 06:34 PM

my theory about Brock signing is that they'll have him interfer in the Batista/JBL match and cost Batista the title. hey it could happen but probably wont.

jbailey84

07-09-2005, 06:35 PM

a fantasy match i guess

sub-zero

07-09-2005, 07:44 PM

brock vs. batista vs. randy orton would be awsome

jbailey84

07-10-2005, 12:32 PM

yeah that could be awesome to see. anything is possible :D

DangerMouse

07-11-2005, 11:30 AM

Okay, so what's going to be the lame angle for HBK's heel turn on Hogan? HBK ego trip?

And what RAW heel is going to turn face to even things out?

RedVader 2004

07-11-2005, 12:54 PM

I think Lesner will go to Raw since Smackdown has Batista.

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 01:09 PM

Lesner is set to go to SD to feud with Batista. They want to work this program because it will be a fresh program after JBL and Batista are done.

sub-zero

07-11-2005, 01:43 PM

what is SD

sub-zero

07-11-2005, 01:44 PM

the koolist mach would be a tag with Brock and Undertaker Vs. Batista and John Cena

jbailey84

07-11-2005, 01:48 PM

Okay, so what's going to be the lame angle for HBK's heel turn on Hogan? HBK ego trip?

And what RAW heel is going to turn face to even things out? One: Possibly set up a match at Summer Slam.

Two: HHH or maybe Kurt Angle. who else that is a huge heel they can turn face that would be worth it?

Three: SD is Smackdown

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 01:56 PM

what is SD

If your coolest match involves Undertaker, Cena, Batista and Lesner you should know what SD is. If you know those wrestlers adn keep up with them you keep up with their show "SmackDown" otherwise known as SD.

I leave this thread for a few months and when I come back people are forgetting common initials???

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 02:00 PM

One: Possibly set up a match at Summer Slam.

Two: HHH or maybe Kurt Angle. who else that is a huge heel they can turn face that would be worth it?

Three: SD is Smackdown

JB I think you are right about the SummerSlam mtch. WWE paid enough to get Hogan back so they need to be using him. I also think Hogan is specific about who he does Angles with and him and HBK have a good relationship so they went this route. Also they did not have anything for Shawn to do so why not go this route.

I don't think they will need to turn anyone face for right now. I think they will let things run and they will see who is catching on with the fans more and make a decision from there. They also need to bring Shelton back to Raw because since the PPV he has been working Dark Matches adn HEat.

ilovecandace

07-11-2005, 03:35 PM

i wanna know some things ....why is hogan back ...yes i love hiom but hes old and what is going on with this myterio and eddie angle?

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 03:40 PM

i wanna know some things ....why is hogan back ...yes i love hiom but hes old and what is going on with this myterio and eddie angle?

Hogan is back because it took come coercing to get him to come to the HAll of Fame Ceremony and since they are on good terms again and he does draw in fans they want to use that to thier advantage.

As for Mysterio and Eddie I am thinking that it has something to do with who the father of Rey's son really is. I don't think it is Eddie but I think the angle is going to be that unless Rey helps him he will tell his son.

ilovecandace

07-11-2005, 04:11 PM

o yeah is tonights show going to be live ?

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 04:19 PM

o yeah is tonights show going to be live ?

YEs tonights show will be live. The only times that Raw is not live is if it is taped outside of the US or Canada if they are doing a tour.

ilovecandace

07-11-2005, 04:20 PM

i think they are in japan though will it be live in japan?

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 04:24 PM

The tour ended this weekend as it started last Tuesday and I believe they are back in the states tonight. There is nothing about them being in Japan and usually if they are in Japan the results will be available early as they film Raw or SmackDown earlier.

ilovecandace

07-11-2005, 04:30 PM

ah .... does any one think the rock will show up soon? the reason i ask cause two weeks ago he wasnt on the roster ...but hes on th roster and i heard something on the radio that hes returing to the ring before the relesease of "DOOM" i kinda have my hopes up on this evn though i shoyuldnt

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 04:32 PM

IF WWE makes a return trip to California or Florida then that would be the est time for his return appearance as he has homes in both those areas. In the past for his appearances the shows in those areas are where he makes his return. It probably won't be till we get pretty close to Doom being released.

ilovecandace

07-11-2005, 04:39 PM

ah well ihope tonights show is good ....we have carlito vs shelton again ...and kabne vs edge i hope its a decent show

ZombieMan

07-11-2005, 08:46 PM

Carlito vs. Shelton is going to be something to look forward to again! :)

LordofKings

07-11-2005, 09:09 PM

How and when did HBK turn heel? and what was the crowds reaction?

sub-zero

07-11-2005, 09:38 PM

what is turn heel

Halofan1

07-11-2005, 09:41 PM

How and when did HBK turn heel? and what was the crowds reaction?

He turned heel last week when he superkicked the Hulkster. And of course, he got booed like hell.

And sub, heel means to be turned into a bad guy.

sub-zero

07-11-2005, 09:41 PM

i'm wachin raw right this second

ZombieMan

07-11-2005, 09:59 PM

what is turn heel

A heel turn means that the wrestler turned into a "bad guy". Easy enough to explain...lol... :P

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 10:02 PM

Well the return on Piper is cool but the end of the Carlito match was stupid.

IamMrDJ

07-11-2005, 10:09 PM

OK an F-U to Eric was awesome. I liked his last line. "Welcome to the New RAW, B**ch"

DangerMouse

07-11-2005, 10:43 PM

WELL HELLO MR. MATT HARDY!!!!!!

As much as I can say "I had a feeling", the creative team finally managed to surprise me.

Next question is, was it all just a "work". Nice story line twist!!!!!

Birdy

07-11-2005, 11:12 PM

Raw was a decent show but the return of Matt put it right over the top. The diva search is really no necessary

Halofan1

07-12-2005, 12:02 AM

Go MATT!!! Man I hope that wasn't a work.

carnage4u

07-12-2005, 12:21 AM

well, of course its a work...
and it was done very well, very enjoyable..

LS2002

07-12-2005, 01:04 AM

Halofan1

07-12-2005, 01:15 AM

But think about this...

I have a hard time believing Vince would let Hardy go on his show and yell

"WWE CAN KISS MY ASS!"

Come on guys...

LS2002

07-12-2005, 02:52 AM

I don't know Maybe Vince let him say that the same reason why he Let RVD shoot about the WWE management. Hell for all we know Vince and the WWE could've been controling what Matt Hardy Said for Months making us believe he really did hate the WWE for firining him.,

LS2002

07-12-2005, 02:54 AM

Also here what Matt Hardy posted on his Site tonight.

If you guys are ready for a ride, jump the ***** on. Well, I promised you all fireworks, so I hope I didn't disappoint. As of July 11th, 2005, my personal Independence Day, the Movement has begun-- and the Movement's purpose is two-fold. Purpose one--To never let anyone control what Matt Hardy says and does and thinks. Purpose two--To make Adam Copeland, Amy Dumas, and the WWE regret what they did to me, what they did to us. It's time for Matt Hardy to stand up for all the MFer's that have been chanting "We Want Matt", and "You Screwed Matt". Although you may not know this--you guys, the MFers, started the Movement months ago. I can now finally join the Movement because I am no longer controlled by the WWE. The McMahons, the Johnny Aces, and all of the WWE management can kiss my @$$. I did what I did tonight because for me to live with myself, Adam "Feces" Copeland must pay. I'm not going to let the WWE forget that they *****ed up when they released me instead of that scumbag home-wrecker. And Amy Dumas, you know what's it's like to have me as your closest ally--but you're gonna hate to see what it's like to have me as your worst enemy b*tch. Even though I didn't slash your tires FCF, slashed tires are going to be the least of your problems--Bank on it. A little message to the whore, the feces, and the horse***** "family" that is the WWE--Matt Hardy is like cancer, I don't go away and you won't find a cure. I thank EVERYONE that has supported me through thick and thin--I promise I will always be there for my MFers. I love you guys--and as I always say, without you, there is no me. I am going to turn a hugely negative situation into something that will benefit us. If you don't want to be able to predict what happens next, you're all in for a treat.

P.S. - If you're thinking about pressing charges Vince, I got a couple bucks, I'll fight it. Besides, I think I might have some pixs and video from a camera phone that shows your officers Rodney Kinging my @$$. My wrist is cut from the handcuffs, and I would suggest that there was a little unnecessary roughness involved in kicking me out of your building.

P.S.S. - And don't forget to catch Matt Hardy in action this Friday in Indiana, PA, this Saturday in Woodbridge, CT, and you never know where I'll show up on Sunday. And The Matt Hardy Show is so on...

Matt "*****ing" Hardy

Isn't it a little strange that Matt Hardy was in a Hotel probally typing this up just an hour after Raw instead in a Jail Cell where he atleast would of stayed a Few Hours?

Halofan1

07-12-2005, 03:33 AM

Hell, RVD shoots the WWE every week on his website. I dunno, I'll support Matt either way.

carnage4u

07-12-2005, 08:50 AM

I think its a great fun new angle.

anything to distract me from the horror that is the diva search.

sub-zero

07-12-2005, 08:52 AM

thanks zombie man

sub-zero

07-12-2005, 09:02 AM

last nights raw was awsome with cena. I recoreded it and am watching it now

DangerMouse

07-12-2005, 09:32 AM

They also used two sets of handcuffs on Matt lst night.

If it was a real arrest, they would've used one.

I still LOVE this though. It's about time the WWE got smart and used internet as a false source of information instead of having it be spoiler central.

My guess for what's next? I read last night that Matt Hardy has been working shows with the Dudley Boys......

The only thing better than that? And this is pure "what DangerMouse would like to see", Matt gets a little help from Jeff Hardy to settle some "family business".

I might actually buy Summerslam now.

Also, as a side note on last night, BRAVO on the new additions to RAW. I particularly like where the Carlito/Shelton Benjamin feud is going. I like the chemistry between the two wrestlers.

sub-zero

07-12-2005, 10:09 AM

john cena and the fued with chris jerico "Y 2 Cheap" is the best ever it was awsome when he sided with jersey and FUed eric bishoff

DangerMouse

07-12-2005, 10:29 AM

Unfortunately "killjoy" (HHH), is poised to make some sort of return in the near future.

Anyone else noticed just how much more creative and "fresh" RAW seems to be without him?

If HHH is truely a great guy behind the scene's as Zombie has said in the past, it's to bad the creative team can't figure out a creative storyline that doesn't take away from every other performer on RAW.

To tell you the truth, I'm not looking forward to a HHH/John Cena feud that we all know is coming.

Why does HHH always have to be in an angle that involves the belt? I recently saw a rerun of The Rock hosting SNL. Funny part was, The Rock wasn't the Champ at the time. HHH was.

Why is it The Rock got over with the fans and basically jumpstarted a film career without having to be the champion all the time?

slinger

07-12-2005, 12:49 PM

Folks I have to say this is all One Big Work and the WWE pulled it off very well. I even think the fact of Matt Getting fired was a work. If this was a shoot you would've saw a couple of things.

1. Matt Hardy wouldn't of been able to get a 2nd attack in he would of been arrested on the spot not at ring side unless the Security at that arena really sucks.

2. They would've cut his mic off before he even picked it up either that or they would've cut to a commercial

3. The WWE wouldn't of aloud Hardy into the Building if they didn't want him to be there in the 1st place whether he bought a ticket or not.

4. He probally would;ve never even got in the ring.

And last but not least. How the hell did you get back stage in the 1st place?

Folks this whole Angle was to set up Hardy vs Edge at Summerslam.

Remember the rumor was Edge vs Cena at Summerslam but they've kept the Jericho thing going so a few probably knew something was happening. But now can the fans trust Matt Hardy? And I know its a big pay day but still why even have the match? And what will happen? Remember Hardy was removed from the ladder match because he could've really hurt Edge so what could happen here?

RedVader 2004

07-12-2005, 02:08 PM

jbailey84

07-12-2005, 02:50 PM

I expected Piper to get super kicked. Its looked like Micheals has a legend problem. His bosting on him beling the reason wrestlemania was great. Was a tip off that heel was so obvious. Hogan, Piper next Flair. maybe even The Undertaker? i know Wrestlemania has a way to go but that'd be a match to see, truely a Legend Vs Legend match.

LS2002

07-12-2005, 04:15 PM

We've Seen Hbk vs. UT before and I don't really think I want to see it again.

jbailey84

07-12-2005, 05:07 PM

yeah back in the 90's when they were at the highest prime. but im just saying who knows ya know?

ZombieMan

07-12-2005, 06:24 PM

About Matt Hardy...I'm thinking that it was one big fake out. I don't even think that his firing was for real and I doubt that Edge even had sex with Lita, and I bet that Edge is still married to his wife. This is all pretty crazy and I can't believe it. But in a certain way, I can believe it. Anything can happen in the WWE I guess.

insaneMoViEgoer

07-12-2005, 06:47 PM

Source: PWTorch.com

Matt Hardy returned to WWE RAW on Monday as part of a "worked shoot" angle. In addition to attacking Hardy and getting "arrested" for his actions, the WWE wrestler also threw in a plug for Ring Of Honor and some anti-WWE and anti-Johnny Ace comments.

While the fact that Hardy returned to WWE has led to question about the sincerity of his message board posts, sources indicate that the beginning of the story was absolutely true: Lita did have an affair with Edge. Thus, the initial sympathy for Hardy's position was deserved, although sometime between the initial fallout and Monday's RAW, Hardy began working his message board visitors.

Matt Hardy officially inked a return deal with WWE a week or two ago; the company began showing serious interest after the Lita-Edge wedding, in which Hardy's teased entrance video elicited a huge pop from the crowd. McMahon took that as proof that bringing Hardy back into the fold was a worthwhile investment.

In signing with WWE, Hardy turned down a very lucrative offer from TNA. Although the looser contract was appealing, at the end of the day, Hardy opted to go for the company with more exposure and a brighter future. Had TNA announced a deal with Spike TV a few weeks ago, Monday's return angle might not have happened.

Sources at RAW report that Matt Hardy did not have much of a presence backstage at the show. He simply showed up, worked his angle, and left. If he did communicate with Edge and Lita, it was done in a very private setting.

Matt Hardy will next be seen this Saturday in Ring Of Honor. It is unknown for how long WWE will allow Hardy to work outside dates as part of the "anti-WWE" gimmick.

so Lita did have an affair with Edge. but up to what point was everything "real" and where did the storyline begin?

slinger

07-12-2005, 11:28 PM

Halofan1

07-13-2005, 12:12 AM

I gotta admit, if it's all a sham, this is the best thing the WWE has ever done. But I've suppored Matt ever since he debuted in the Hardy Boyz and I'll continue to support him.

Bravo though.

Halofan1

07-13-2005, 02:20 AM

They tried to play it off like it was real.

carnage4u

07-13-2005, 09:40 AM

It was a very welle done angle. they do things well once in a while ;)

filmstudent04

07-13-2005, 12:09 PM

I wouldn't doubt that the wwe created that storyline between edge and matt. It seems more likely too because if you think about it edge I doubt would really cheat on his best friend. It just seems more reasonable for this to happen between matt and edge because matt probably trusted using this storyline/angle with someone he trusts which is his best friend. Who knows really, we'll just have to watch it play out, but i wouldnt put it past wwe to have created this whole storyline. Also Hbk vs Undertaker would be a damn good match i believe and a good storyline again, those two were great in the 90s and had some good matches, it'd be nice to see it rejuvinated (spelling on that one?).

jbailey84

07-13-2005, 04:51 PM

Also Hbk vs Undertaker would be a damn good match i believe and a good storyline again, those two were great in the 90s and had some good matches, it'd be nice to see it rejuvinated (spelling on that one?). i think so. they have had some good matches when they were feuding when HBK was champ, and brought us "Hell In a Cell".

Warren

07-13-2005, 06:08 PM

I wouldn't doubt that the wwe created that storyline between edge and matt. It seems more likely too because if you think about it edge I doubt would really cheat on his best friend. It just seems more reasonable for this to happen between matt and edge because matt probably trusted using this storyline/angle with someone he trusts which is his best friend. Who knows really, we'll just have to watch it play out, but i wouldnt put it past wwe to have created this whole storyline.

No, the affair was real. The incident on RAW was scripted.

The WWE is using the angle to further their change into catering more to the smarks, by cashing in on non-scripted events like Matt-Lita-Edge and The Blue Meanie incident. WWE.com is using stories like negotiations with Lesnar to help this.

jbailey84

07-13-2005, 06:17 PM

here's an UPDATED card for the Great American Bash Live Sunday July 24. looking good!

Batista vs JBL for the World Championship
Undertaker vs Muhammad Hassan
Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio in a Secret Match
Chris Benoit vs Orlando Jordan for the US Title
MNM vs Road Warrior Animal & Heidenreich for the Tag Team Titles
Booker T vs Christian
Torrie Wilson vs Melina in a Bra & Panties Match

ilovecandace

07-13-2005, 07:29 PM

where did u get the info from>?

carnage4u

07-13-2005, 07:46 PM

road warrior aniamal?
did i miss something?

sandman441

07-13-2005, 10:34 PM

road warrior aniamal?
did i miss something?

It's a spoiler from smackdown.

ZombieMan

07-13-2005, 10:56 PM

I have some most excellent news people!!! I went up to Harley Race's wrestling school today to visit some of my old friends and to talk to Harley himself. Harley was doing pretty well and his promotion WLW is still going strong. He has alot of excellent wrestlers trained under his belt now, and my wife and I got to talk to Ace Steele for awhile. (Ace is a well known Ring of Honor, IWA, and TNA wrestler). Anyhow, my friend Trevor Rhodes that I have mentioned before. We saw him and he was REALLY happy to see me and my wife Sarah, as we use to be best of friends. Trevor has inked a deal with WWE and will be on there soon enough. He just got back from a 6 month tour of Japan for Pro Wrestling NOAH, and WWE took a look at him since the better wrestlers usually get a shot in Japan. WWE liked what they saw and have since taken Trevor and put him with Garrison Cade as a tag team known as T-N-T. He obviously worked his way out of going to OVW and will be on WWE television soon enough. So watch for these two guys!!! I don't know if they will use Trevor's name or a different one for him. However, if you guys want to see pictures of me, my son, and Trevor then I will post them tomorrow. I have pictures of Trevor and I that I need to get developed and put onto here. I will probably post it on here and Frizzo's Foto Album both. :)

Rogue

07-13-2005, 11:21 PM

BLEH! Am I the only one that wants to punch Melina in her ugly ass face? God, I can't stand her. I'm sick of WWE getting these useless divas. Then, they manage to turn the few good wrestling females they have into crap -- Lita, Jazz, Victoria..BLAH. It pisses me off.

Woot. Go Taker! That's all I gotta say. I loooove me some Taker.

ilovecandace

07-13-2005, 11:32 PM

am i missing something here?

PapaRoachRules

07-14-2005, 03:37 AM

^^i don't know.

what happened with HBK and Hulk? I missed Raw last week but last Mondays said HBK beat the **** out of Hulk or something.

Oh and congrads to you friend Zombie. I'll keep an eye open

PapaRoachRules

07-14-2005, 04:09 AM

Oh man, if you just started to watch you missed the era of Stone Cold.

all i know is that he cracked open a guys skull with a sledge hammer.

i loved what undertaker did to mankind though. that was kick-fu**ing ass

jbailey84

07-14-2005, 05:05 AM

what happened with HBK and Hulk? I missed Raw last week but last Mondays said HBK beat the **** out of Hulk or something. he gave Hogan some Sweet Chin Music to set up a match at Summer Slam. sorry to all that i have confused with the card for the GAB with the spoiler!

ilovecandace

07-14-2005, 12:58 PM

lol did u see it or somthing or did u watch it?

jbailey84

07-14-2005, 01:01 PM

i read it :D

ilovecandace

07-14-2005, 04:28 PM

where from>????

ZombieMan

07-14-2005, 07:03 PM

Here are the pictures of me, my son, and Trevor Rhodes that I had promised. Can't wait to see Trevor and Garrison Cade back on WWE TV soon. :) Also we almost have the same poses, its just funny that in all three, my son has a different expression, haha.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/ZombieMan/benandtrevorrhodes3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/ZombieMan/benandtrevorrhodes.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/ZombieMan/benandtrevorrodes2.jpg

jbailey84

07-14-2005, 07:15 PM

pretty cool zombie. cool shirt ;)

ZombieMan

07-14-2005, 07:17 PM

pretty cool zombie. cool shirt ;)

Hahahaha thanks man! Wal-Mart $9.98 for Napoleon Dynamite shirts by the way. :)

PapaRoachRules

07-14-2005, 09:31 PM

Halofan1

07-14-2005, 11:21 PM

That hat is cooler than the shirt, Zombie. :D

filmstudent04

07-15-2005, 12:32 AM

does ne one else think that the Undertaker is being poorly used and that he really does not have a good feud goin on here...i think if he did take on hbk that it would give life to his character a little more...right now its kinda blah. wwe itself is kinda blah right now with really no true feuds goin on and the whole eddie skit was just lame. ne one really know if that was his real wife...i would highly doubt it...i just feel that wwe needs some new writers as of right now cuz its been bogus right after the ecw pay per view...they should have really tried to push that more.

PapaRoachRules

07-15-2005, 01:21 AM

i can't wait to say HBK fight Hogan next week. I agree with you about Undertaker, filmstudent. He needs to fight better people. I would love to see him and Batista go.

Jedi-Stinger

07-15-2005, 06:17 AM

That was Eddie wife. I remember her from his DVD.
:)

carnage4u

07-15-2005, 09:47 AM

cool pics zombie :)

Warren

07-15-2005, 10:53 AM

wwe itself is kinda blah right now with really no true feuds

No "true" fueds?

There's Batista vs JBL, Edge vs Matt, Eddie vs Rey, Taker vs Hassan, HBK vs Hogan and Cena vs Y2J now.

PapaRoachRules

07-15-2005, 11:02 AM

i wish i had ppv. i don't get to watch The Great American Bash :(

Halofan1

07-15-2005, 07:37 PM

Taker needs the belt again. 'Nuff said.

Rogue

07-16-2005, 12:13 AM

Amen, brother, amen.

FVD

07-16-2005, 08:59 AM

Hey I read something about Matt Hardy asking Lita questions on Byte This and things were turning very sour. Apparently the show ended early with Lita exiting the program.

Btw nice pics Zombie. Your son looks almost as big as you ;)

ZombieMan

07-16-2005, 10:20 AM

Btw nice pics Zombie. Your son looks almost as big as you ;)

Ehhh yeah, he's getting big. I've lost a ton of weight since I've been ill, and I'm still too lazy to go back to the doctor and find out what is wrong. Oh well...

ZombieMan

07-17-2005, 01:02 PM

Did anyone see Velocity? I didn't get to watch it, but I hear that Frankie Kazarian finally made his successful WWE debut. Websites are saying that he looked most excellent and that he should adapt to WWE's style well. I'm glad to hear it, as I always liked him in NWA-TNA. :)

ilovecandace

07-17-2005, 03:53 PM

so..... when do u think k-kwik will come back i liked him in the wwe ...also do u think that sting would ever come?
ooo do u thin that teacher dude will become a wwe wreslter?

insaneMoViEgoer

07-17-2005, 04:17 PM

k-kwik is currently in NWA-TNA as Ron "The Truth" Killings.

ilovecandace

07-17-2005, 04:27 PM

his contracts ends soon with tna

ZombieMan

07-17-2005, 04:56 PM

so..... when do u think k-kwik will come back i liked him in the wwe ...also do u think that sting would ever come?
ooo do u thin that teacher dude will become a wwe wreslter?

K-Kwik probably won't ever come back to WWE. I heard that he left on bad terms the last time, and I can't stand him anyhow. Sting will never come to WWE, I'm almost sure of that. What teacher dude are you talking about? The guy who fought Angle? Matt Stryker? He is already signed by WWE.

jbailey84

07-17-2005, 05:35 PM

from wrestling-online.com newsletter, reports who "The Boogyman" is. if you already knew, SORRY!

"It was a wild night in Frederick, MD., yesterday as the Smackdown!
crew performed a live event at the Harry Grove Stadium, a
one-in-a-million outdoor event. The show was called off half way through
as an unexpected guest arrived - rain! That's right, rain poured down on
the fans and the ring which prompted WWE officials to call off the show
and urged fans to keep their tickets for the next event in Frederick.
Tough Enough contestant Marty Wright - who was disqualified in the
contest for lying about his age - debuted as 'The Boogeyman' and that's
when rain and thunders started! Welcome to WWE! His match with Doug
Basham ended in 15 seconds."

jbailey84

07-17-2005, 07:00 PM

ive been meaning to ask this, i dont know if it was posted or not but did anyone get the results of Shane Douglas's ECW event?

insaneMoViEgoer

07-17-2005, 07:53 PM

not sure, but it will be released on DVD so you can wait for that

ZombieMan

07-18-2005, 10:09 AM

This would be the perfect time for Trish Stratus to return as a babyface and team with Matt Hardy against Lita and Edge. Thats if Trish is fully recovered.

carnage4u

07-18-2005, 10:29 AM

i miss trish.. one of the divas that was hot and had talent.

and was hot..

did i mention hot?

ZombieMan

07-18-2005, 10:33 AM

:lol: I personally think that Lita is hotter, but thats just me. ;)

carnage4u

07-18-2005, 11:56 AM

well lita has her moments. shes been wearing some nice outfits as late, but she also at least has some skil.

but Trish is my favorite, but Stacey would come in 2nd, then Lita,, then the rest are all whores.. well maybe 1 or 2 arent, but the rest are,

ilovecandace

07-18-2005, 12:30 PM

since when was ryhno not part of the wwe?

ZombieMan

07-18-2005, 12:49 PM

Rhyno got fired after Wrestlemania for causing a scene in a hotel. I guess that him and his wife got into an argument in the lobby and he picked up a plant vase and smashed it or something. Thats what I had read anyhow...

Se7en the movie

07-18-2005, 01:24 PM

This would be the perfect time for Trish Stratus to return as a babyface and team with Matt Hardy against Lita and Edge. Thats if Trish is fully recovered.

I think if they truly want this feud to work they cannot...CANNOT have anyone from outside who isnt involved in their real-life drama. Doing this will cause this feud to lose stream and intensity, showing this to be just another feud, which frankly it isnt, its probably the best thing WWE have done in a long time. Also it Edge vs Matt Hardy doesnt getting main event or at very least second to main event at a PPV it will be criminal.

jbailey84

07-18-2005, 01:33 PM

what did happen to trish?

btw i found the results to Shane Dougla's ECW Hardcore Homecoming PPV :D

1. Chris Chetti and Mikey Whipwreck d. CW Anderson and Simon Dimamond

2. Tracy Smothers d. Blue Meanie

3. 2 Cold Scorpio d. Kid Kash

4. Kronus and New Jack brawled with Ian and Axl Rotten. New Jack cut a promo afterwards.

5. Jerry Lynn d. Justin Credidble via the cradle piledriver.

6. Raven d. The Sandman

7. Sabu d. Terry Funk & Shane Douglas (w/Francine) in a Barbed Wire Match

Se7en the movie

07-18-2005, 01:35 PM

Halofan1

07-18-2005, 10:00 PM

TO Edge:

I may be a geek, but at least I never took 'roids to get muscles.

ZombieMan

07-18-2005, 11:15 PM

I just read this on www.lordsofpain.net

In a dark match prior to RAW, Trevor Rhodes and Garrison Cade defeated Axl Rotten and Balls Mahoney. Rotten and Mahoney are in the midst of a tryout process with WWE.

Pretty cool stuff, it looks like my buddy Trevor is getting right up in there. I have been hearing that Axl and Balls have gotten tryouts and they aren't signed yet. So, Trevor and Garrison got to break them into the WWE I guess, and I really wonder how the match went. :)

FVD

07-19-2005, 03:33 AM

PapaRoachRules

07-19-2005, 06:23 AM

dammit i missed Raw tonight. can someone tell me whathappend

PapaRoachRules

07-19-2005, 06:23 AM

dammit i missed Raw tonight. can someone tell me whathappend

PapaRoachRules

07-19-2005, 06:23 AM

dammit i missed Raw tonight. can someone tell me whathappend

carnage4u

07-19-2005, 07:42 AM

raw was about 40% crap
diva crap

Hogan and michaels had a chat.. that was decent
Carlito def Benjerman by cheating again (cool)
edge defeat kane in a cage mage.. decent match, but wrong winner.. Matt H attacked Edge before the match and got taken down by security in like point .3 seconds and got a fairly respectable beat down.

there was some crap between that, but i blocked it out.
oh yeah. masterlock challegne and angle invitation.. both in one night is painful
only good thing is big show has challenged masterlock so at least thats coming to an end. hopefully.

lumberjack match. Cena vrs snitchy will all hell lumberjacks.. as expected a bunch of good old boys came out in the last 3 minutes cleared the bad guys and putz boy cena got the win.

filmstudent04

07-19-2005, 12:18 PM

Earl Hebner reportedly was fired for selling merchandise without authorization...that sucks he was the best ref in my mind and he always stood up to HHH

Rogue

07-19-2005, 02:46 PM

Hmmm is it me or is Edge REALLY trying to use the Jericho look? Sorry, but he was hotter with longer hair. The mid-length hair only works for Jericho (who is hot as hell.) Lita looks good now, even though she's an evil you know what. I think it's because she's less ripped now. Used to, I think she was too built for her frame/size. Made her look too manly. Now that she's toned it down a bit and is more compact, her body lends itself to a more feminine look.

Anywho.

Am I the only one who don't give a **** about the Divas Search? All they're going to do is get another f'n girl that CAN'T wrestle and couldn't hold her own with the Jazz/Victoria/Lita/Ivorys of the world. SD! already has too many useless divas. Why get more on Raw? I don't get it.

I'm so sick of this Edge/Kane thing. Since Hardy's back as a fugitive, let it run it's course. WWE has already bastardized the real relationships there so just let it go. Let Hardy **** Edge up and let it be history. I'm sick of seeing it. It makes me want to vomit. What I find funny is that Kane gets to acted like the jilted spouse when Matt Hardy REALLY is. :rolleyes: Man..creative sure ****ed things up.

I'm glad Cena is doing so great on Raw but I miss seeing Batista on Raw. There before he was moved he was really on a good roll. I miss hearing his music on Monday nights! Jericho is such an evil bastard, I love him to death. But what's up with the Battle of the Bands? Hip hop vs. hard rock? Uhm..not really a bad of the bands. More like a clash of the genres. :confused:

Oh well.

Raw was pretty boring last night. I only half watched it..I was on the phone but still I'd only give it a 5/10.

carnage4u

07-19-2005, 04:31 PM

battle of the bands and diva search are 2 reasons i wont be watching much of raw next week.

it does bring the entire show down.

I dont think one person here as ever said a good thing about it rogue.

LS2002

07-19-2005, 05:01 PM

I really hate to admit it but Raw is really starting to miss HHH right now.

carnage4u

07-19-2005, 05:15 PM

i wouldnt go that far.. lol.. it sucked last year at the same time with all the side crap and HHH.. its just got one less reason to suck atm.

ZombieMan

07-19-2005, 05:18 PM

I really hated Raw last night. Talk about boring, boring, boring! Anyhow about Earl Hebner losing his job and his son maybe losing his. Now is time for me to turn in my refereeing resumes and tapes into the WWE, while there is a chance. :) Maybe Trevor can put in a word for me, haha!

chewie

07-19-2005, 06:44 PM

Yeah, I don't think that anybody has ever had anything good to say about the Diva competiton on here. When the crowd starts to chant "boring" during a segment, well that's not good. Get a f'ing clue WWE.

Rogue

07-19-2005, 08:21 PM

Divas come out and the NEON green "BORING" signs come up..that should be a telling sign for Vinne Mac right there!

insaneMoViEgoer

07-19-2005, 09:03 PM

but its the highest rated segment on raw unfortunately.

Rogue

07-19-2005, 09:14 PM

Because it's T&A. It isn't wrestling and it has no place in wrestling. Gah!! I want to see suplexes, not swimsuits!

ilovecandace

07-19-2005, 11:24 PM

i want to see bodyslams and tits

carnage4u

07-20-2005, 08:45 AM

yeah, but as long as morons keeep turning to it and the ratings go up, we will see it again and again and again, and it is crap.

Halofan1

07-20-2005, 02:38 PM

Because it's T&A. It isn't wrestling and it has no place in wrestling. Gah!! I want to see suplexes, not swimsuits!

Sure it does. It belongs in "TNA" :D

PapaRoachRules

07-20-2005, 02:43 PM

i want to see bodyslams and tits

:lol:

the divas need to at lease fight.

jbailey84

07-20-2005, 03:46 PM

another thing that gets the ratings to go up is Matt Hardy showin up. they should have had let him come out at the end of the Steel Cage match to hype it up more. the Diva Search is boring, waste of time. did anyone understand what HBK mouthed after Hogan accepted his challenge?

PapaRoachRules

07-20-2005, 04:18 PM

So Hogan and HBK didn't fight? i guess i didn't miss anything then.

DangerMouse

07-20-2005, 05:04 PM

During the entire Diva thing, I was on-line listening to the ByteThis show after I heard Matt Hardy called into Lita on it.

But I did vote for a Diva. That one that looks like she can wrestle.

All the other Diva's basically just did a bunch of pole dancing during the talent competition the week before.

I think Ashley is her name, she was the only one that didn't "Do a little dance". She threw Christy from a turnbuckle.

She's the one with Blonde/Black streaked hair.

ZombieMan

07-20-2005, 05:13 PM

If I have to pick a diva, I would pick Ashley as well. For the fact that she is a rocker and she isn't a little whiney ***** that can't do anything. She seems pretty tough.

jbailey84

07-20-2005, 06:17 PM

So Hogan and HBK didn't fight? i guess i didn't miss anything then. they actually DID fight AFTER the camera's went off. it was a 6-Man tag with Cena, Batista, & Hogan Vs HHH, JBL, & HBK. Hogan pinned JBL with the Leg Drop.

anyone notice Bam Margera with Hogan's son?

ZombieMan

07-20-2005, 09:08 PM

Yeah, I noticed Bam with Hogan's son. Bam looked to be having alot of fun. :)

FVD

07-21-2005, 01:52 AM

Earl Hebner reportedly was fired for selling merchandise without authorization...that sucks he was the best ref in my mind and he always stood up to HHH

That really sucks. WWE won't be the same with him. So it looks like Nick Patrick may take the reigns of Senior ref now.

ZombieMan

07-21-2005, 11:31 AM

I hope that you all don't mind, but I found some pictures of Trevor on Sunday Night Heat, he has been getting ready for his debut and been doing tons of dark matches and stuff too. Also I found some pictures of him when he portrayed Stan Dupp on NWA-TNA when they first started out. :)

Trevor vs. Rob Conway on Heat.
http://www.streetfighterjasonbates.com/trevor_heat05/4.jpg
http://www.streetfighterjasonbates.com/trevor_heat05/3.jpg
http://www.streetfighterjasonbates.com/trevor_heat05/12.jpg

Trevor as Stan Dupp on NWA-TNA.
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/t/trevorrhodes/01.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/dupps/03.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/dupps/02.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/dupps/06.jpg

DangerMouse

07-21-2005, 11:57 AM

Are they going to protray him as a "Rhodes", ie "Son of the American Dream"?

It would be nice if they actually gave him a storyline and angle instead of just being a jobber.

in fact, I think it would be a really cool story line to get him with Randy Orton and create a "Pedegre" or "Legacy" Stable of wrestlers that are sons of wrestling legends. Possibly a new story line for Rick Flair as well.

filmstudent04

07-21-2005, 12:44 PM

Hassan is now off smackdown...UPN officials i guess do not want him back on their network...more news to come...

PapaRoachRules

07-21-2005, 12:53 PM

^^thats what his attorney said. wasnt he gonna fight undertaker at the GAB? or has that already happened?

DangerMouse

07-21-2005, 01:20 PM

Are you kidding?

That's gotta be a first. A network demanding a WWE storyline be stopped by kicking a wrestler off their network.

Should be interesting to see where the Hassan character goes from here.

IMO, having a deal with UPN was a big mistake in the first place.

jbailey84

07-21-2005, 05:17 PM

That really sucks. WWE won't be the same with him. So it looks like Nick Patrick may take the reigns of Senior ref now. actually i think Mike Chioda(sp?) is the Senior ref now. he was with Smackdown but i noticed the he was refing on Raw. correct me if i'm wrong.

jbailey84

07-21-2005, 05:34 PM

Final Card for sundays Smackdown presents The Great American Bash.
here are my picks.

World Heavyweight Champion Batista* vs. JBL

United States Champion Orlando Jordan vs. Chris Benoit*

Muhammad Hassan vs. Undertaker*

Eddie Guerrero* vs. Rey Mysterio

Melina* vs. Torrie Wilson (Bra & Panties Match)

WWE Tag Team Champions MNM vs. Heidenreich & Road Warrior Animal*

Christian* vs. Booker T

Mexicools vs. bWo*

i must say, this PPV looks promising and great!

ZombieMan

07-21-2005, 07:38 PM

BWSword

07-21-2005, 07:43 PM

has anyone now much about this statement?
Due to the unfortunate terrorist attacks in London on Thursday, July 7, which coincided with our pre-produced WWE SmackDown! program, UPN has asked us to be sensitive to the usage of the Arab-American character, Muhammad Hassan. We have agreed with UPN, and have not had the character on SmackDown! since that date. It is uncertain as to whether or not the WWE will continue with this character beyond this Sunday’s Pay-Per-View, The Great American Bash.

DangerMouse

07-21-2005, 11:32 PM

Rogue

07-22-2005, 02:20 AM

Good, Taker needs to have a good push right about now. I've been wanting one for oh...a year now hahaha. He needs a belt, damnit.

PapaRoachRules

07-22-2005, 08:43 AM

i'm going to be depressed since i don't get to watch. :( let me know what happenes.

carnage4u

07-22-2005, 09:51 AM

i know Batista will win this sunday, and i do like him, but i really wish JBL was still the champ.. Only a wrestling god should be the Champ.

He was great thursday.

and i hope this eddie/rey fued just ends and goes away... its good and all, but i dont want to see them wrestle each other again for a long time.

glsspder

07-22-2005, 11:27 AM

WHo is the BWO? i guess i miss this segment.

Se7en the movie

07-22-2005, 11:35 AM

WHo is the BWO? i guess i miss this segment.

bWo are the Blue World Order. They were the piss-take of the New World Order from WCW. Blue Meanie aka The Blue Guy was Scott Hall, Stevie Richards aka Big Stevie Cool was Kevin Nash and Nova (now Simon Dean) aka Hollywood Nova was Hollywood Hogan. They were hilarious in the old ECW days. Blue Meanie and Stevie work so well together, they should bring them back as a tag team.

Warren

07-22-2005, 12:15 PM

I love how Nova is playing two roles right now.

PapaRoachRules

07-22-2005, 12:30 PM

that was cheap how eddie attacked ray on smackdown last night. i don't really care about rey though

Rogue

07-22-2005, 02:45 PM

So what's the deal with "the family secret?" Surely they're going to spill whatever creative has come up with. I wonder what it's going to be?

LS2002

07-22-2005, 02:55 PM

Actually I heard this was all Rey Mysterios idea to do this angle.

PapaRoachRules

07-22-2005, 09:30 PM

probably a secret about about his family.

PapaRoachRules

07-22-2005, 11:20 PM

someone should make a huge battle of all the wrestlers in WWE! that would be cool

LS2002

07-23-2005, 03:22 AM

Hmmm sounds interesting but it has kinda been done.

PapaRoachRules

07-23-2005, 09:29 AM

ya, but it was never finished

Ramplate

07-23-2005, 09:45 AM

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/mro0047l.jpg

ZombieMan

07-23-2005, 10:53 AM

^^^ What the hell?

LS2002

07-23-2005, 02:07 PM

You know I think it would be interesting to do a Battle where all the WWE Wrestlers TNA and ROH wrestlers in a battle.

ZombieMan

07-23-2005, 07:45 PM

That would definitely make for an awsome battle, I do agree! :)

PapaRoachRules

07-23-2005, 08:09 PM

yup, its just a matter of wether or not anyone'll do it.

ZombieMan

07-23-2005, 08:15 PM

What does everyone think of the Mexicools? I'm personally very dissapointed in Psichosis and Juventud Guerrera. They use to be surpreme latino wrestlers, and it seems like their skills have gotten quite sloppy since WCW. I know that they have been working shows in Mexico alot so they have no excuse for being rusty in the ring. I think that they had better get their act together real fast, since the WWE is releasing people like crazy these days. Psichosis especially looks sloppy, he hasn't been hitting his moves the right way at all. Just because the WWE just hired them doesn't mean that they can't get rid of them already, so hopefully everything comes around. I use to love those two in WCW. As for Super Crazy, I applaud him, he has been doing quite impressive. :)

LS2002

07-24-2005, 02:00 AM

Well I could do it if you want but we gotta to plan this out. Would it be better to have Catergories for Wrestlers like for example should there be a Cruiserweight Battle and then maybe a Jobber Battle and then a Midcarder and Finally a Heavyweight or should we just let them all go at it no matter their weight.

ZombieMan

07-24-2005, 10:28 AM

I personally think that we should let them all into the battle, no matter their weight or card status.

ZombieMan

07-24-2005, 10:31 AM

Here are my predictions for the Great American Bash.

- World Heavyweight Championship: Batista (Champion) vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield
PREDICTED WINNER: Batista

- World Wrestling Entertainment United States Championship: Orlando Jordan (Champion) vs. "The Crippler" Chris Benoit
PREDICTED WINNER: Chris Benoit

- World Wrestling Entertainment Tag Team Championship: MNM (Champions, with Melina) vs. Road Warrior Animal & Heidenreich
PREDICTED WINNERS: Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich

- Secrets Match: "Latino Heat" Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio
PREDICTED WINNER: Eddie Guerrero

(Note: If Eddie wins, he will reveal the big "secret" that he's holding against Mysterio, but if Eddie loses, he must never reveal the secret to anyone)

- World Heavyweight Championship #1 Contender's Match: The Undertaker vs. Muhammed Hassan (with Divari)
PREDICTED WINNER: The Undertaker

- One-on-One Match: Booker T (with Sharmell) vs. Christian
PREDICTED WINNER: Christian

- 6-Man Tag Team Match: The Mexicools vs. The Blue World Order
PREDICTED WINNERS: The Mexicools

- Bra & Panties Match: Torrie Wilson vs. Melina
PREDICTED WINNER: Torrie Wilson

(Note: Candice Michelle will be the special guest ref)

Warren

07-24-2005, 11:25 AM

ZombieMan

07-24-2005, 11:27 AM

^^^ Sounds like a good idea actually. I like Warren's idea!

LS2002

07-24-2005, 03:30 PM

I'd say let them all in, but separated by Raw, Smackdown, TNA and RoH, and have the 4 winners face off in the end.

Yeah that sounds like the better Idea. I really don't know many of the ROH wrestlers though except CM Punk who I hear is coming to WWE now but still is there a site that shows their whole roster? Another question I have though is should we allow staff to be in this tournament as well. Like JR King and Eric Bischoff people like that or should we just include the Wrestlers and what about the Divas should there be a seperate Tournament for them as well I am all open to Suggestions.

Warren

07-24-2005, 03:46 PM

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/home/index.html

That'll help you pick out the wrestlers.

LS2002

07-24-2005, 03:55 PM

Thank you that helps a lot.

carnage4u

07-25-2005, 09:26 AM

The PPV has come and went.

i felt like the PPV was almost in slow motion for most of the matches. Overall it was ok, but nothing i really glad i spent that much money for it.

ZombieMan

07-25-2005, 12:32 PM

I do this from time to time, since WWE brings in new wrestlers and changes gimmicks so often. But who are everyone's favorites right now? You don't have to do this, but its just for fun. :) Mine are below...

RAW
1. Carlito Caribbean Cool
2. Val Venis (though he never gets put over anymore, and is hardly on there.)
3. Chris Jericho
4. John Cena
5. Tajiri
6. The Hurricane
7. Kurt Angle
8. Kane
9. Chris Masters
10. Big Show

SMACKDOWN
1. Heidenreich
2. Roadwarrior Animal
3. Paul London
4. Hardcore Holly
5. The Undertaker
6. Super Crazy
7. Christian
8. William Regal
9. Steven Richards
10. Batista

DangerMouse

07-25-2005, 02:13 PM

The PPV has come and went.

i felt like the PPV was almost in slow motion for most of the matches. Overall it was ok, but nothing i really glad i spent that much money for it.

Got a recap?

Any surprises?

carnage4u

07-25-2005, 02:35 PM

batisita won via dq.. beat down jbl and bloom with a chair after they hit him, but ref saw batiista do it.. JBL was laughing at end, until Batista came back and hit him some more with the chair.

Eddie did lose to Mysterio which i thought was a little suprise, i hope pschyo eddie days come to an end soon.

UT destoryed hasan.. and he gave him last ride thru the stage,, wont be seeing him, as he promised not to come to smackdown if he list( plus with ealier news, this was not a suprise)

mnn did lose to road warrior and Heidenreich(sp) a mild shock. animal is so out of shape its sad.

also Torrie lost the bra and panties match, but everyone ended up in bra and panties so we all won.

Orlando bloom beat the crippler in the boring match of the even

christian lost to booker T, but it was a good match. but the wrong guy won.

There was a Heidenreich chant,JBL chant and christian chant, so the crowd was odd.

filmstudent04

07-25-2005, 09:39 PM

does ne one else think that the writing staff for wwe is getting poooooooooooooor like piss poor...did you see the segment with bisch and shelton...wow who writes that stuff and even jericho is gettin bad lines

beyond_th3

07-25-2005, 09:53 PM

yea it was pretty bad, and its not just them two, John Cena's lines are horrible too. The only people who nail their lines are Christian, and Kurt. Shawn Michaels gets good lines also.

Warren

07-25-2005, 10:50 PM

Shawn's promo tonight was gold.

ZombieMan

07-25-2005, 11:50 PM

I thought that Raw was pretty good tonight actually. I was glad to see Eugene return and I think that it was a good idea to let him win Angle's medals. Somebody FINALLY beat Angle for those damn things, haha!!! I thought that the Kane/Edge match was half-ass decent too. But I really wanted to see Fozzy perform DAMNIT!

filmstudent04

07-26-2005, 12:21 AM

cena's rap was tight as a goose!

LS2002

07-26-2005, 03:13 AM

carnage4u

07-26-2005, 07:13 AM

Well raw was ok

The divas get dumber and dumber.
last week as bad enough when they had to say something negative about another, and they couldnt figure that out

tonight they are told to eat hot dogs, and not one of them got a clue how to do it in a way to gaurentee all the votes.. they dumb enough to run around half naked and shake their ass, but thats about all

i think christy hemmy is about the lamest diva, but i swear to god, this new batch makes her seem smart and funny.

Edge/kane match was ok. not happy seeing kane lose 2 in a row, and its about time for matt do something other then just run in.. 3 weeks better be the limit to that, as its not progressing anything and summerslams close enough already.

if only fozzi would have played and cena would have backed down..... to waste that much time with him rapping and not knocked out or hit with a chair was sad.

It was funny with eugune coming back and winning though. It will be amusing to see where that goes.

ZombieMan

07-26-2005, 10:55 AM

Ohhh, I might like to add that I was glad to see Carlito beat Cena last night! ;)

carnage4u

07-26-2005, 11:47 AM

i actually left the room before that match started, but im glad it happened as well. Carlito is just cool.

chewie

07-26-2005, 07:16 PM

Well raw was ok
It was funny with eugune coming back and winning though. It will be amusing to see where that goes.

A match at Summerslam.

carnage4u

07-26-2005, 07:19 PM

well duh.. i meant on a week to week basis.. eugine invational... amusing..

insaneMoViEgoer

07-26-2005, 07:21 PM

Raw will be in Pittsburgh in two weeks, Angle's hometown, so theres a chance he'll win them back then.

carnage4u

07-27-2005, 10:45 AM

filmstudent04

07-27-2005, 11:12 AM

wow good call to who ever made the assumption that rko would sabotage the undertaker...

ZombieMan

07-27-2005, 11:22 AM

i just read the spoiler for eddies secret over Rey.. wow,, how lame and simple little secret, that im sure we all figured out the day it started. Not sure what the people writting the stories sometimes are smoking when doing their jobs.

Yeahhhh, these writers ALL need fired. They are totally screwing **** up for the WWE. I'm getting sick of it and I read the spoilers. I couldn't believe my eyes, as far as, what the hell is the creative team thinking? They have such simpleton minds these days.

LS2002

07-27-2005, 11:56 AM

Something about Smackdown.

I think that Undertaker won't be getting the shot against Batista based on that DQ ending that happend at the Great American Bash. Here is what I think is going to happen though

JBL will come out and whine and complain to Teddy Long that he deserves a Rematch. Teddy Long comes out and agrees to give JBL a title shot if Tonight he can beat the Undertaker. So the match goes on and it looks like the UT is getting the upper hand on JBL but as the Ref gets knocked out and the Taker has just chokeslamed JBL Down. He turns around and who is there to meet him but Randy Orton with an RKO. The Ref comes to as Orton disapears in the crowd as JBL drops an arm over UT for the 1 2 3. Setting up JBL vs Batista 2 and Orton vs. Taker at Summerslam.

Did I call it or did I call it

*Smackdown General Manager Teddy Long came out to announce the main event for Summerslam when JBL came to the ring and said that his contract stipulates he gets a rematch with Batista and that makes him the number one contender, not the Undertaker. Long announces JBL vs. Undertaker for later tonight with the winner being the number one contender to Batista’s WWE World championship.

*JBL pinned The Undertaker to become the number one contender to the WWE World championship after Randy Orton hit Taker with an RKO.