Go WWE!

[Se7en the movie]

In my opinion: the WWE screwed up royally when they fired all the Divas that can actually wrestle (Jazz, Gail Kim, and Nidia)!!!

Wait, when did we ever see Nidia wrestle? She was a quality character I'll give you that.

[ZombieMan]

I admit, when they gave Gail Kim her release, that was a bad move. I didn't care much for Jazz or Nidia though.

[RedVader 2004]

When Batista destroyed Hassan and Divari on monday night did anyone say Yes! Batista got the DQ no question but at last somebody shut them two up. I know alot of it is show. But that was really a great answer to HHH challenge. I wished though maybe Christian and Flair might have gotten laid out like them.

[ZombieMan]

I just read that Terry Funk turned down a $10,000.00 offer for the ECW pay-per-view. I'm pretty dissapointed, as he is one of my favorite wrestlers ever. However, Terry is having some knee problems again from the last time that I got to talk to him. Thats probably why he won't do it, or there could be other reasons...Oh well, Mick Foley is due to appear in one way or another for sure.

[DangerMouse]

I heard Funk had a choice between the ECW reunion ppv and another extreme event that was scheduled a week or so before. He contemplated doing both but decided if he did the ECW gig after his prior engagement, he wouldn't be doing it at 100%. So he chose to skip the ECW ppv.

I'm wondering if they plan on resurrecting ECW on a permanent basis or if this going to be just a one time deal.

I'm think the ppv $$ numbers should tell the tale.

I'm not sure if WWE should spread itself so thin, but on the other hand they have so many talented wrestlers on their pay-roll with no story line or angle. Its almost a waste of great talent.

[LS2002]

When Batista destroyed Hassan and Divari on monday night did anyone say Yes! Batista got the DQ no question but at last somebody shut them two up. I know alot of it is show. But that was really a great answer to HHH challenge. I wished though maybe Christian and Flair might have gotten laid out like them.

Um yeah you really think Batista shut those 2 up? I don't think so especially the fact is that Hassan still has never been pinned to begin with so yeah he will still brag about that.

[Rogue]

All I can say is someone retire Triple H already. Maybe Batista will end his career for real in HiaC and we can actually f'n enjoy Raw again.

[chewie]

Hassan will blame is loss last week in some way to how everybody is biased against him.

[LS2002]

Hassan never lost that match. He won by DQ yeah he may of been beaten to a bloody pulp but he still doesn't have a loss on Raw.

[chewie]

I meant his loss of blood. :P

[filmstudent04]

did anyone else feel that the whole kurt angle booker t with his wife match was really distastefull?...i mean cmon how much lower can these matches get?

[RedVader 2004]

I am well aware Hassan got a DQ win but i i were him i wouldn't get to cocky for Batista's mood may not get any better for a while. All that aside . Where do you think some wrestlers will end up on Monday Night. The first round of Vinces monthly draft.
I doubt they will switch Batista, HHH and Kane on Raw.

I'd like to see maybe a Trade for The Undertaker or The Big Show. Also I'd like to see A one time match with Batista and Goldberg. Even if he Goldberg is out pf that buisness. Is Test still wrestling. HIm and an Edge fude might be ok if Test came to Raw.

[FVD]

Anyone know (or care) what's up with the Chris Master's storyline?

I'm wondering only because after the incredibly stiff match with Steven Richards (that put him out of commission), they started the whole "Masterlock Challenge", and he didn't wrestle anyone.

Either it was punishment for the sloppy match vs. Richards, or they were planning on have something going with Richards to begin with. The reason I say this is Steven Richards was Masters' first ring match since... Steven Richards.

It's been a while since I last saw RAW. I've been really busy at work lately. Yes Chris Masters. An impressive physique though I'm still trying to make my mind up whether is Master Lock is even that impressive of a finisher. I was hoping that Val Venis was gonna kick out of the hold. He sure made a brave attempt though.

And I agree about Triple H. He's been at this for years. And it's getting old. As old as Ric Flair. Batista looks great with the belt. I hope he keeps it for a while. Why can't Hunter take a break for a while? That's what we all want from him. And I like Batista's new revamped theme too.

When is the ECW PPV airing btw? I really don't want to miss this.

FVD.

[runningtongue]

Chris Masters is awsome!

I just wish they would they would start putting him in real matchups instead of those goofy "i'll pay 1000 dollars if you can break my masterlock" things.

Masters VS Gene Snitsky

that would be an awsome match!

[RedVader 2004]

Actually i'd hope that Snotsky would not fare to well. I really don't like that monster. Masters would maybe hold on with his master lock but it would take a few shots to the face from his double ax hammer move. Or what ever they call it. Also i am well aware how Snotskys name is spelled.

[chewie]

Gene Snitsky is awesome because his name is Gene Snitsky.

[runningtongue]

sometimes in the WXW he calls himself "Snisky"

WXW is an Allentown based wrestling show, I watch it on Sundays.

[LS2002]

Hmmm Interesting Spoiler I found.

Batista could possibily win the HITC Match

Mike Johnson of PWInsider.com is reporting that the July 11th RAW Taping to be held at the Continental Airlines Arena in East Rutherford, New Jersey, will be headlined by WWE Champion John Cena and World Champion Batista teaming up against Triple H and John Bradshaw Layfield. This is the first time both brands champions will team up since the brand split in 2002. No word on if the match will be televised, or will take place as a dark match for the live crowd.

[Se7en the movie]

And I agree about Triple H. He's been at this for years. And it's getting old. As old as Ric Flair.

No, Flair is always gonna have that 10 years head start.

[FVD]

:lol: Right you are Se7en.

Well let's hope that spoiler comes true LS2002. Though I'm not entirely sure whether I'm keen on that tag team match.

[ZombieMan]

It's been a while since I last saw RAW. I've been really busy at work lately. Yes Chris Masters. An impressive physique though I'm still trying to make my mind up whether is Master Lock is even that impressive of a finisher. I was hoping that Val Venis was gonna kick out of the hold. He sure made a brave attempt though.

Yessss, I was hoping that Val Venis would get out of the Masterlock. It would have set up a perfect feud between Venis and Masters, and plus it may have gotten Venis back into the spotlight a little. Well, not completely, but it could have worked him back up anyhow. I just miss the old Val Venis promos and all of his matches, he is very talented. I think I've talked about this before.

[ZombieMan]

Oh my FREAKING GOSH people, I'm sooo excited right now! My good friend and ex-travel partner Trevor Rhodes (Stan Dupp from TNA) has landed a WWE developmental deal!!! I'm really excited for Trevor, and I'm SOOOO proud of him. He has been doing this business for about 9 years I think, and was one of Harley Race's first graduates of the academy. I trained many of hot summer days in the ring with Trevor, got the priviledge to travel with him and meet his family and become good friends. What an honor. :) I'll have to post some pics up sometime of Trevor and I on some of our old road trips. ;) I can't wait until he makes his way onto WWE television!!! Here is a link below, and you can check out another site for the info as well.

WLW announces Rhodes' signing to WWE (http://www.harleyrace.com/)

Rumor sites announce Rhodes' signing (www.lordsofpain.net)

[DangerMouse]

Hopefully they treat him a little better than his brother.

To tell you the truth, I enjoyed him as Golddust, but enjoyed him just as well with him being Dustin Rhodes.

In fact I think it would be really cool if they created an entire "Rhodes Stable" with Dusty, Dustin, and Trevor. Kind of do an "invasion" angle.

[DangerMouse]

And BTW, what was the deal with Dustin and WCW? I remember him coming in as one of those WCW "Cartoon" type characters and his first night, he basically told WCW if they didn't like him as he was, they could kiss his a**.

Then I didn't see him for a while.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ That would be a very neat idea DangerMouse. But the last time that I did talk to Trevor he said that his dad might not ever have anything to do with the WWE again. Anyhow, I think that Trevor probably got alot of help getting his contract from Ted DiBiase because back in May, DiBiase was at a WLW show and then shortly after that, Trevor got his WWE match on Sundat Night Heat. Some of you may recall me talking about that a few weeks ago, and I bet that WWE was impressed with his match. Afterall Trevor was good enough to work for TNA as well and did a VERY great job in his role there as a hillbilly character. :)

[ZombieMan]

And BTW, what was the deal with Dustin and WCW? I remember him coming in as one of those WCW "Cartoon" type characters and his first night, he basically told WCW if they didn't like him as he was, they could kiss his a**.

Then I didn't see him for a while.

Dustin never could agree much with Bischoff, thats about all that I can tell you about his situation in WCW.

[BWSword]

the first draft pick for raw is from smackdown...is John Cena

[chewie]

That was a very good Raw tonight. I'm glad they brought Cena over during the 1st night of the draft and not the last.

[DangerMouse]

Well, looks like Batista to Smackdown.

And the clock starts for the feud between John Cena and HHH.......

I really wish they could think of a way for HHH to go to Smackdown or figure out a story line for HHH that doesn't involve the title.

Like maybe an Undertaker stalking angle.

Also, predicting a Lita/Edge split. One of the two will go to Smackdown.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I couldn't agree more about Batista going to Smackdown and the Lita/Edge split. I see a Lita and Edge split up in the near future, I think that it was a small angle that would only last so long. I think that Lita will head over to Smackdown and they will give another woman the spotlight on Raw for the women's title when Trish comes back. I think that Triple H should go over to Smackdown as well. Lets give other superstars the spotlight on Raw, and obviously one of those superstars will be John Cena and I think the other will be Randy Orton when he comes back to Raw. I can see a John Cena vs. Randy Orton feud coming if Orton doesn't get drafted to Smackdown. Good chance that Orton and Batista both get drafted to Smackdown and start a feud as well. There are alot of surprises coming in the near future I think. Anything can happen, and I think that we might see a favorite commentator switch spots too.

[LS2002]

Um you people are so wrong about Batista going to SD. If Anything it would be HHH going to SD. A. Because HHH and Cena don't get along with each other and if they are on the same show it will cause some problems.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Not every single wrestler backstage gets along though. Most of them do, yes. But, Trips and Cena will eventually have to work out their differences if they are on the same show. If they are real men, then they will talk things over and see what the **** they can do to solve whatever problem.

[DangerMouse]

Goldberg and Chris Jerico co-existed on the same show for how long?

Yeah, "getting along" and "working together" are two different things.

[filmstudent04]

whats the details behind cena and hhh not liking each other?

[LS2002]

Do not Highlight this bit of Spoiler if you don't want to know who Smackdowns First Pick is this coming Thursday Night

It was revealed during the SmackDown! tapings last night in Kansas City that the first RAW superstar to be traded to SmackDown! as part of the "draft lottery month" angle is none other than "The Rabbid Wolverine" Chris Benoit.

[RedVader 2004]

I hope 3 stars stay on raw and that is Batista, HBK and Shelton Benjamin. I think they will try to keep Batista on Raw for he does have the Raw Belt. I'd like to see Edge and Lita Traded for the Undertaker. So we could either have a Hortan Taker fued or Kane and The Undertaker fued.

[chewie]

I think Batista will win the Hell in a Cell match, then get drafted to Smackdown on the Last night of the draft. I also think that HBK will go over to Smackdown. Don't have any guesses on Smackdown Superstars coming to Raw.

[HotBoy]

Wait, when did we ever see Nidia wrestle? She was a quality character I'll give you that.There was one match I remember seeing with Nidia v. Trish, and Nidia lost the match due to a Janet Jackson-esqe "wardrobe malfunction"!!

[HotBoy]

Um you people are so wrong about Batista going to SD. If Anything it would be HHH going to SD. A. Because HHH and Cena don't get along with each other and if they are on the same show it will cause some problems.Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it true that long before coming to the WWE, Goldberg didn't get along with HHH?? They still ended up working together!!

Also, it appears as though HHH isn't going to look to favorably on anyone who has the potential of stealing his spotlight(although, I believe he did get along with Rock, and Austin).

[HotBoy]

My prediction: At Vengence, because of the draft lottery, the Kane v. Edge match will end with Kane getting some "brotherly love"!!!

[Starwars411]

Do not Highlight this bit of Spoiler if you don't want to know who Smackdowns First Pick is this coming Thursday Night

It was revealed during the SmackDown! tapings last night in Kansas City that the first RAW superstar to be traded to SmackDown! as part of the "draft lottery month" angle is none other than "The Rabbid Wolverine" Chris Benoit.

That's a good pick.

[carnage4u]

so far, the first 2 picks hve been good. i'm just waiting till they get to lame picks.
i imagine some stupid tag team will be broken up and some pick will be a waste like an announcer or something usless as well.

but its a good start :)

[DangerMouse]

Also, it appears as though HHH isn't going to look to favorably on anyone who has the potential of stealing his spotlight(although, I believe he did get along with Rock, and Austin).

Of course he got along with Rock and Austin as HHH was never as big as either of them while they were wrestling.

But I'm also sure no one cheered louder when they both retired from wrestling, because that opened the door for HHH.

[FVD]

Perhaps Orlando Jordan should also go to RAW so he can get a chance to shine like Shelton did. Orlando is a pretty talented athlete.

[RedVader 2004]

If Batista the WWE raw brand title holder is sent to just Smackdown. I think it would get boring without some sort of monster like wrestler. I mean people would get tired of just ugly old Kane and Stintsky all the time. I think the next 3 Smackdown stars will be Bradshaw, Ray Mysterio Jr and maybe the Undertaker. For in exchange.Edge, Kane and maybe Viscera.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ You know RedVader, I would personally like to see Bradshaw, Rey Jr., or The Undertaker come to Raw. Now, that would catch my eye for sure! I wish that Viscera would go to Smackdown.

By the way, who is watching the ECW pay-per-view other than me?

[DangerMouse]

I haven't watched a ppv in a while. I might plunk down the $$$$ just for this.

Gawd it was GREAT to see Sandman and the other "Non-WWE" guys from ECW storm the ring last Monday night!!!!!!

[FVD]

Hey Zombie I think JBL is having a ball on Smackdown. He's been given the chance to shine and I would hate for him to lose the ball he's currently rolling on. If he goes back to RAW it might be a bit too soon IMHO.

As for the ECW PPV I'll also be seeing but won't get to see it live as I've gotta work on that day. PPV's usually air live around noon on a Monday NZ time. :(

FVD.

[ZombieMan]

Hey Zombie I think JBL is having a ball on Smackdown. He's been given the chance to shine and I would hate for him to lose the ball he's currently rolling on. If he goes back to RAW it might be a bit too soon IMHO

And you could be right. :)

[ZombieMan]

Yet, another indy wrestler that I knew personally gets signed to WWE. Cool beans!

It was announced today at the IWA Mid South show in Philly that C.M. Punk had signed on with World Wrestling Entertainment. IWA MS promoter Ian Rotten, brother of Axl Rotten, cut a promo right after Punk's match with Homicide that his final match before joining WWE would be next Saturday, June 18th for Ring of Honor.

News courtesy of www.lordsofpain.net

[carnage4u]

Tonights PPV was TOP notch f@#$#@ quality.

The invasion stuff was kept to a minor point(which was good)

God i miss ECW matches.. Mike Awesomes match was great, so was so many others,, That was well worth the price of a PPV. Its going to be hard to justify spending money on a normal WWE Pay Per View after watching it tonight.

tons of matches, tons of violence, PURE emotion, ECW FANS are Hardcore and CRAZY.

[Halofan1]

ECW One Night Stand is simply put, the best Pay Per View ever.

[ZombieMan]

Well, it was definitely worth the money I think. I enjoyed it for the most part. Especially the Mike Awsome vs. Masato Tanaka match, now THAT was some cool ****!!! Pure brutality most of the night, and Super Crazy impressed as usual. I think that the wrestler who performed the most poorly all night was shockingly Psicosis. He is usually really good but even the fans were getting irritated with him. It was cool to see Stone Cold come in at the end and round up the ECW troops and share beer and whoop WWE's asses.

[Halofan1]

Well, it was definitely worth the money I think. I enjoyed it for the most part. Especially the Mike Awsome vs. Masato Tanaka match, now THAT was some cool ****!!! Pure brutality most of the night, and Super Crazy impressed as usual. I think that the wrestler who performed the most poorly all night was shockingly Psicosis. He is usually really good but even the fans were getting irritated with him. It was cool to see Stone Cold come in at the end and round up the ECW troops and share beer and whoop WWE's asses.

Even as weak as Psicosis was, he still entertained the hell out of me. And what made the night for me was Paul Heyman...

"UH OH! HIDE YOUR WIVES'! EDGE IS HERE! HEY I HAVE TWO WORDS TO SAY TO YOU THAT NOBODY IN THE BACK HAS THE BALLS TO SAY: MATT FREAKIN' HARDY!"

"OH AND JOHN, THE ONLY REASON YOU WERE A CHAMP FOR A YEAR WAS BECAUSE TRIPLE H DIDN'T WANT TO WORK TUESDAYS!"

Most people won't agree with me, but to me it's by far the best PPV ever.

[carnage4u]

Paul was great,,

the Matt Hardy comment was Pure GOLD.....

[Halofan1]

Paul was great,,

the Matt Hardy comment was Pure GOLD.....

This is why I loved ECW. They weren't afraid to say anything but most importantly they told the truth. And sure, parts of it were fake but those chair shots, cheese graters was all real. Every time I watched an ECW pay per view I felt it delivered. These guys had talent and did it for the love of wrestling and fans and not for the check (HELLO TRIPLE H). Did they make money? Hell no. But did they deliver every time they went out there? You bet your f***ing ass they did!

I like WWE but I'll always be an ECW fan in my heart.

[sandman441]

Paul was great,,

the Matt Hardy comment was Pure GOLD.....


Paul was pretty good on the mic. I kind of wish he would have said more but he probably wouldn't work for WWE right now if he did.

[filmstudent04]

Best PPV i have ever seen in my life!

[HotBoy]

Paul was great,,

the Matt Hardy comment was Pure GOLD.....Here's Matt Hardy's take on the whole thing, courtesy of prowrestling.com:

Hardy Comments On What Happened At The ECW PPV
Date Added: June 13, 2005
Story By: Tim Brown
-- After hearing about all of the support that the fans gave him at the ECW PPV, Matt Hardy posted his thoughts on the show at his official website. The following is what was written by Hardy on his website:

"What's up everyone? I got about 50 calls tonight from people buzzing me on the ECW crowd being all over Adam's @ss about me and the Paul E plug. After reading a couple of reviews of the show, it reminded me of why I loved ECW so much back in the day. Spontaneity. Controversy. Not being afraid to break from "the formula." A lot of truth and honesty rolled into the "entertainment" aspect of pro wrestling. Regardless of how predetermined or not Paul's two (or three) words were - "Matt frickin' Hardy," I respect him and thank him for going there. It popped me when I heard. Paul Heyman is a truly amazing individual when it comes down to him having his fingers on the pulse of the product. I respect his contributions to the business and wrestling mind greatly. I also respect the ***** out of the New York fans--more specifically, the more educated, can't be insulted, we'll call you out on your feces fans. When it comes to performing, there's nowhere like NYC and the New Yorkers. As always, I thank everyone for their support--be well."

[ZombieMan]

Every once in awhile I do this...But, who are your current favorite WWE stars? Pick 10 from Raw and 10 from Smackdown. Rank them from 1-10 and 1 being the best please. :)

Raw
1. John Cena
2. Ric Flair
3. Chris Jericho
4. Tajiri
5. Batista
6. Christian
7. The Hurricane
8. Val Venis (wish they would show him more often.)
9. William Regal
10. Kane

Smackdown
1. Carlito
2. Paul London
3. The Undertaker
4. Heidenreich
5. Hardcore Holly
6. JBL
7. Chris Benoit
8. Funaki
9. Nunzio
10. Rey Mysterio

[filmstudent04]

Does anyone else think that with the success of this payperview, that wwe will continue to have ecw shows or not?

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Good chance if you ask me filmstudent. I think that Vince will rethink everything and consider it.

[DangerMouse]

If it makes money, Vince will do it.

Plus think back to the whole "ECW Funeral" Bishoff had on RAW. Heyman told Vince that he owns the ECW name, but Vince agreed to let Hyman call 100% of the shots.

I think you're going to see a 3rd (ECW) brand coming soon.

[carnage4u]

More ECW would be great, but if not, last night was still a hell of a show.

[sandman441]

Raw
1. Jericho
2. Christian
3. Tajiri
4. shelton benjamin


Smackdown
1. RVD
2. Benoit
3. Carlito
4. Heidenreich

[chewie]

Raw

1. Jericho
2. Christian
3. Batista

[DangerMouse]

RAW
1. Shelton Benjamin
2. Chris Jerico (only Rock was better than him on the Mic)
3. Batista

[sandman441]

JBL sucks and I hope he gets fired

http://blog.myspace.com/thebluemeanie

Once the ECW/WWE brawl started I paired of with Coach and I felt a punch come from out of nowhere. My first instinct was to hit back BUT I also had the issue of trying to protect the 14 staples I have in my head. I got some rib shots in the best I could but he got the upper hand with going to my face, opening a fresh wound on my forehead and swelling my eye.



All I saw was red as the blood fill me eyes and I believe it was Maven I pulled on top of me to get him to "choke" me. After he got cleared out guys came up to check on me and we went on the other deal with Austin and Bischoff and the big post brawl party in the ring. As F***ed up as what Bradshaw did, the crowd reaction had me so buzzed that I didn’t feel anything.



I got to the back and Bradshaw was in a part of the gorilla position. He came over like he was going to do something else but people got in between. He was yelling about me talking about him on the Internet. The rest of what he said I didn’t hear cause I was too busy saying, “Yo, it’s a work!” and “Dude, the business is a F***in work!!” So I did the best thing anyone could ever do in the situation and just walked away.

[carnage4u]

aye, that is very lame and i read that earlier today. its so bizarre he got that pissed off, but hes not known for holding his cool.

even a wrestling god makes a mistake.

[sandman441]

aye, that is very lame and i read that earlier today. its so bizarre he got that pissed off, but hes not known for holding his cool.

even a wrestling god makes a mistake.


This isn't the first time he's done it though. I don't remember who it was but it was after wrestlemania I believe at a party JBL two other people had words with somebody else (lance storm?). He is just an idiot

[carnage4u]

true, hence why i said hes not known for holding his cool.

its a shame, but he should be punished for his act. Its uncalled for.

[ZombieMan]

its a shame, but he should be punished for his act. Its uncalled for.

I couldn't agree more. I like JBL as a wrestling personality, but his backstage "fame" isn't so great and his in-ring stiffness is well known. I personally think that he should be fired, because this isn't the first time that he has done such things and been warned by WWE higher-ups. I can clearly remember the German incident when they were overseas and JBL did the nazi salute to rib the German fans. That was uncalled for, first off. Then his backstage bullying shouldn't be allowed period. Backstage ribbing is usually alright, because I even rib other wrestlers backstage at our shows, but its not bullying in any shape or form. Its all in good fun, but bullying wouldn't be tolerated.

[BWSword]

anyone know who from smackdown went to raw?

[Starwars411]

I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT!

Kurt Angle just got drafted.

[BWSword]

kurt angle got sent to raw...wow...ha looks like he would have to flirt with someone else wife than booker t

[Rogue]

****, he could flirt with Lita. She seems to be sticking her tongue down everyone's throat nowadays. Am I the only one that finds this wedding gimmick with Edge in extremely bad taste considering how the real situation went down?

When she came out tonight I said "Well the ****s about to hit the fan." And it did, big time. Sometimes I wonder about WWE's creative department. What the hell are they thinking? I mean, yeah, it's good that they ended the Kane/Lita marriage thing but then bam..she's right back in another disgusting angle that could have REAL ramifications.

Am I overreacting or did anyone else gag?

[carnage4u]

well they were going for the gag effect the last couple weeks with Edge, so they simply going to the limit with it, plus since marriages never end well on raw, im ok with those 2 getting married.

[ZombieMan]

****, he could flirt with Lita. She seems to be sticking her tongue down everyone's throat nowadays. Am I the only one that finds this wedding gimmick with Edge in extremely bad taste considering how the real situation went down?

When she came out tonight I said "Well the ****s about to hit the fan." And it did, big time. Sometimes I wonder about WWE's creative department. What the hell are they thinking? I mean, yeah, it's good that they ended the Kane/Lita marriage thing but then bam..she's right back in another disgusting angle that could have REAL ramifications.

Am I overreacting or did anyone else gag?

It makes me gag as well Rogue and I think that its wrong of them to do this angle. I agree 100% with you, and I wish that it would just end. Its sickening and brutal on Matt Hardy's feelings, I'm sure. Lita is such a freakin' *****. I'm all lost for words on this....its horrible.

[ZombieMan]

Ohhhh and as for Angle on Raw, I like the idea!!! :)

[chewie]

I've always liked Angle. From what I can tell he's a pretty good worker and doesn't screw up in his matches.

[DangerMouse]

Angle kicks serious a**. Probably one of my favorite wrestlers as he can make everyone he wrestles look good.

I was actually hoping last night would be the beginning of a HHH/Angle fued (that doesn't involve a title belt). Angle doesn't need a belt in order to carry a successful and entertaining feud (unlike HHH). Maybe Hunter could learn something from Angle.

But I have a feeling they are going to keep Angle a heel.

On a positive, I'm getting the feeling Angle coming over means HHH is going to Smackdown. But the future match's announced has me wondering what they're planning on doing.

HBK stays to feud with Angle, and the HHH/Batista feud ends with the Hell in a Cell match. Hhmmmm.

Not quite sure what they're planning on doing with Cena as the Christian/Jerico/Cena triple threat match features Cena vs some glorified mid-carders. I'm thinking they might have Cena just kick some serious a** as it doesn't make sense to have him gain so much on Smackdown, only to go back to a mid-carder on RAW....unless its just temporary to send Jerico out and give Cena something to do until the end of the draft.

Who does Cena feud with though? That's the big question. They wouldn't dare have HHH feud with Cena would they?

[ZombieMan]

I've always liked Angle. From what I can tell he's a pretty good worker and doesn't screw up in his matches.

I have seen him "shoot" on younger wrestlers and lose his temper with them. Thats ok though, he is just correcting them and making them NEVER mess up their match with him again. LOL

[HotBoy]

The other day on UPN, they showed a promo commercial for a show that's going to air on Thursdays this fall. The show is called "Everybody Hates Chris".

Is the WWE planning to shorten Smackdown, or air it on another day? If in fact the WWE is going to shorten Smackdown, that would explain why Cena was traded to RAW.

[DangerMouse]

The other day on UPN, they showed a promo commercial for a show that's going to air on Thursdays this fall. The show is called "Everybody Hates Chris".

Is the WWE planning to shorten Smackdown, or air it on another day? If in fact the WWE is going to shorten Smackdown, that would explain why Cena was traded to RAW.


I'm sure a good place to start would be to first make sure it airs on a network that everone gets.

I only know what's happening on Smackdown from the recap shows. UPN is so small, Smackdown is in syndication. So it doesn't air everywhere within the United States.

I could easily see Smackdown become a mid-card show.

Anyone hear if UPN is dissatisfied with SD's ratings?

[HotBoy]

Who does Cena feud with though? That's the big question. They wouldn't dare have HHH feud with Cena would they?If they do, more than likely, it could probably happen at SummerSlam (if HHH wins the Heavyweight Title back, and Cena retain the WWE Title).

Now, my prediction about the Draft, Undertaker is going to be drafted to RAW, just in time to help Kane against Edge, and Lita.

[carnage4u]

i am guessing taker to Raw as well...

[carnage4u]

Btw

I loved the Woooooooo back and forth with Angle/Flair stupid funny moment.

[sandman441]

Anyone hear if UPN is dissatisfied with SD's ratings?


Not sure how true it is but I heard they are moving smackdown to fridays.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

second raw superstar to smackdown is Randy Orton

[RedVader 2004]

I think Batista, Benjamin and HBK stay. Then i will be happy. At first i didn't like Batista but i think it would be stupid for Beshoff to get rid or Batista. I see him striking a deal to keep him. Does anyone think Latino heat or Booker will be next and maybe The Big Show and Taker for the last pick. If The Undertaker comes over. Maybe it will be on anight were edge challenges the new member whom ever it is. It turns out to be Kanes brother. I'd love to see Taker Drill Edge after the pay per view. I could stand a Kane Taker trade.

[Halofan1]

second raw superstar to smackdown is Randy Orton


Not surprised. I figured they'd want to continue his feud.

[carnage4u]

which makes UT ............... turn to Raw that more unlikely... sadly..

[ZombieMan]

Sad indeed...

[chewie]

I still think that Batista will come to Smackdown. The only way I don't see that happening is if Cena drops the belt to Christian and that would be kind of stupid.

[HotBoy]

which makes UT ............... turn to Raw that more unlikely... sadly..Don't be so sure. Anything's possible. It's possible that the WWE will want Randy Orton to feud with Rey Mysterio (that is, if he doesn't get traded to RAW), or Shelton Benjamin gets traded back to Smackdown. That would put both the US title, and the IC title on the same show.

[Starwars411]

Just to let everyone know. Smackdown is being moved to Friday this fall.

[Halofan1]

I still think that Batista will come to Smackdown. The only way I don't see that happening is if Cena drops the belt to Christian and that would be kind of stupid.


I think what will happen is the WWE and World Championships will stay on RAW and the US and Intercontinental titles will be moved to SmackDown.

[slinger]

I'm sure a good place to start would be to first make sure it airs on a network that everone gets.

I only know what's happening on Smackdown from the recap shows. UPN is so small, Smackdown is in syndication. So it doesn't air everywhere within the United States.

I could easily see Smackdown become a mid-card show.

Anyone hear if UPN is dissatisfied with SD's ratings?

Pretty sure Smackdown! is their most watched program or one of them. I don't see the real logic in moving it to Fridays. Probably the best counter programming of the week, considering all the shows it goes against on Thursdays. But it fills a hole on Friday, and has a somewhat loyal audience. But its probably going to hurt the ratings. Its like moving RAW to Tuesdays, fans are used to Thursdays.

[chewie]

I think what will happen is the WWE and World Championships will stay on RAW and the US and Intercontinental titles will be moved to SmackDown.

If they did that, Smackdown PPV buyrates would be lower than they are already.

[ilovecandace]

u know i think shoyuld happen smackdown should be aired live
its sucks watching somthing that had already happned


but the plot thickens

i wonder what vince is trying to do?

[RedVader 2004]

Benajmin was on Smackdown for a while before Raw. They have Orlando Jones already. As a Raw star both Batista and Benjamin deserve to stay on raw. I say get rid of Kane and Edge. Keep Ortan and bring the Under taker and Booker T to Raw. I'd get rid of Jericho before Benjamin. This is my preferance only. I think if Batista stays a Cena and Batista series would be good and an Angle and triple hhh.

[carnage4u]

i think Triple HHH should stick only with velocity (or whatever the weekend show is called :)... that be the best.

[slinger]

Mind you.... UPN may be moving to Fridays... but that doesn't mean the Score is up here in Canadia eh ;)

Probobly will... but you never know.

Well they do air it an hour earlier sometimes, I don't see why not only thing is 'the days until PPV/last Friday on Smackdown! lines would be off. But no big deal, they tape on Tuesdays.

[RedVader 2004]

Does it seem like the better pics are going to Raw. No offense to Benoit or Ortan but Cena and Angle are pretty major picks ups. Does anyone have any idea who Raw is looking at next. I think my three guesses are Ray Mysterio, Booker T or JBL.

[ZombieMan]

I doubt that it will be Rey Mysterio for the fact that they have been trying to bring up the cruiserweight division on Smackdown, but then again, who knows? JBL might be the next pickup, or I could see Rene Dupree make his way back to Raw too.

[ilovecandace]

do the managers get to pick in the draft or r they randomly drafted

[BWSword]

you got to think how the last draft came along...raw got shelton benjamin, tajiri, rynro, paul heyman smackdown- triple hhh, mark jindrak, rene dupree, rob van dam, and miss jackie then another trade raw got triple hhh and smackdown got booker t and the dudleys

[BWSword]

whoops I forgot my point...I think the next 3 would be like one diva trade, and maybe someone from a tag team partners or someone that not as good wrestler or so...as I think looking at the first draft

[RedVader 2004]

I think the last pics should be maybe the dudley boys so they'll have a new tag element to raw but i doubt it for Bishoff hates them from what happend at the ECW pay per view. On the 27th Raw has two pics and like wise so does Smackdown. I am hoping that Batista isn't picked for I don't get UPN where i live. I think to make it interesting they should have all thr wrestlers on one show and just use them on both.

[runningtongue]

i hear that ECW is gonna replace SMACKdown!

Is this true?

[SolidusPlisken]

i hear that ECW is gonna replace SMACKdown!

Is this true?

I'm pretty sure that's not true, but I don't know. I haven't been keeping up with wrestling or rumors lately, but I wouldn't count on it. I'm not sure,though.

[Starwars411]

Carlito C. Cool has just been drafted to Raw.

[spiderman_2k]

And he wins the IC title in his first match.

[Starwars411]

Just like he won the U.S. title in first match on SD.

[Halofan1]

Carlito Rules!!

[FVD]

Yeah Carlito's been growing on me. I love his little talk show on Smackdown. What's it called again? And it's gonna be competition with Jericho's Highlight Reel. Is Y2J still on Raw or has he been drafted to Smackdown now?

[slinger]

I'm pretty sure that's not true, but I don't know. I haven't been keeping up with wrestling or rumors lately, but I wouldn't count on it. I'm not sure,though.


Almost could with the way the draft has gone and just how the talent/big names are divided.

[Starwars411]

Carlito's segment was called Carlito's Cabana.

[ZombieMan]

Oh my gosh, I was really, really happy when Carlito showed up on Raw last night as the new draft pick! I'm a big Carlito fan. :) I was especially excited when he won the IC title of course. Raw was decent last night, but the most tasteless thing of the night was the Matt Hardy teaser. That was complete bull**** in my opinion, and I didn't enjoy it at all. That was just wrong...As far as Angle goes, its good to see him wrestle on Raw again.

[RedVader 2004]

I was dissapointed with the Carlito pick for there are so many better Smackdown stars then that. I think Bishoff dropped that ball on that one. I hope he didn't Trade Carlito for Benjamin. I mean Benjamin had such good matches. Such as the ones with HHH and Shawn Micheals. I have but one more question will we see Austin at vengeanc or on Raw again soon. For its seems like when Bishoff looses control there is always a Austin or a Foley too appear to set things right.

[Rogue]

Was I the only one that about lost it when Matt Hardy's music hit the system? I almost fell off my bed. I was thinking oh please, God, let it be!! But no, once again creative, Edge, and Lita just **** over Matt Hardy. They don't get the fact that this is all really disrespectful to the real situation. *sigh* I hope they wrap it up quick.

On a side note, I loved Lita's dress...I want one!

[Halofan1]

Zombie, Rouge you two are not alone in being completely pissed off about Matt Hardy's music blaring and nothing happening. I literally stood up in shock and thought Edge was in for a REAL ass kicking but it made me sick that Edge and Lita planned it. I've lost complete respect for them as professionals and individuals (and funny, I used to be a HUGE Lita fan and Edgehead.) The fact they have exploited a real life tragedy shows how much class they really have and they will get what they deserve.

And no, my name is not Matt Hardy. This situation just pisses me the hell off.

[Halofan1]

I was dissapointed with the Carlito pick for there are so many better Smackdown stars then that. I think Bishoff dropped that ball on that one. I hope he didn't Trade Carlito for Benjamin. I mean Benjamin had such good matches. Such as the ones with HHH and Shawn Micheals. I have but one more question will we see Austin at vengeanc or on Raw again soon. For its seems like when Bishoff looses control there is always a Austin or a Foley too appear to set things right.


Benajmin is staying and I absolutley love him. Make him the World Champion one day, please. And no, Benajmin won't be on SmackDown! because he and Carlito are facing against each other at Vengeance.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I use to really, really like Shelton Benjamin but he lost alot of my respect because of his lack of acting skills. I know its PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING and not suppose to be all acting and talking on the mic. But if they have to use the mic, then he needs to improve a little bit more. ;) LOL

[stunt double]

I got my tickets for Vengeance come this Sunday. This'll be my first live PPV event. I'll be seated off in the corner by the entrance ramp.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Have fun dude, its gonna rock your world! Live PPV's are so much better than going to Raw or Smackdown. I went to Backlash a few times and I was impressed both times. :)

[RedVader 2004]

Will Austin make another impact appearance like he did at ECWs One Night Stand.

[Halofan1]

^^^ I use to really, really like Shelton Benjamin but he lost alot of my respect because of his lack of acting skills. I know its PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING and not suppose to be all acting and talking on the mic. But if they have to use the mic, then he needs to improve a little bit more. ;) LOL

I'll admit he's as bad as HHH on the mic, but if he improves he could be great. Even you can't deny his in ring talent.

[ZombieMan]

I never denied his in-ring talent because he has a crapload of in-ring talent! He just needs to improve his acting skills since that is what the WWE is about now days.

[stunt double]

^^^ Have fun dude, its gonna rock your world! Live PPV's are so much better than going to Raw or Smackdown. I went to Backlash a few times and I was impressed both times. :)

I'll be sure to post pics. I have a newer digital camera with 36x zoom, so I should get great tight shots. Trouble is its such a battery guzzler. :(
Hopefully I can find a second battery before then.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ That would be totally cool if you could post some pics! :)

[Rogue]

Zombie, Rouge you two are not alone in being completely pissed off about Matt Hardy's music blaring and nothing happening. I literally stood up in shock and thought Edge was in for a REAL ass kicking but it made me sick that Edge and Lita planned it. I've lost complete respect for them as professionals and individuals (and funny, I used to be a HUGE Lita fan and Edgehead.) The fact they have exploited a real life tragedy shows how much class they really have and they will get what they deserve.

And no, my name is not Matt Hardy. This situation just pisses me the hell off.


Same here, halo. I used to be one of the biggest Edgeheads and Lita fans out there but you know..there's a breaking point with everything and I've reached mine. They're messing with people's lives and making light of things now and it's totally horrible. I cannot believe they've sunk lower than that damn necrophilia angle back in the day.


And I was like you..I thought Edge was in for a real ass kicking but then reality set in and I realized that they'd never allow it because Matt Hardy really would tear him a new one. He probably would have beaten Edge within an inch of his life.

What goes around comes around though. Lita will probably take a bad bump again and **** her career up and Edge has lost all his popularity and that's all he went on anyway. Bleh, I have autographed Lita and Edge photos on my desk but I'm getting ready to take them down.

It's SICK.

[carnage4u]

people take the matt thign to heart.. its not like edge screwed around with YOUR other half.. and everyones keeps saying it was edges and litas idea to play matt hardy music.
uhh. yeah. im fairly confident it was the powers that be that decided it, not them

its just a angle and its not that over the top. they are crucifying jesus or baking jews in an oven or something.

its not like real life affairs have Never been used in an angle before.

[HotBoy]

In case this hasn't been posted yet: courtesy of the draft lottery, the newest members of Smackdown are:

Muhammad Hassan & Davari!!!

[ZombieMan]

And I was like you..I thought Edge was in for a real ass kicking but then reality set in and I realized that they'd never allow it because Matt Hardy really would tear him a new one. He probably would have beaten Edge within an inch of his life.

What goes around comes around though. Lita will probably take a bad bump again and **** her career up and Edge has lost all his popularity and that's all he went on anyway. Bleh, I have autographed Lita and Edge photos on my desk but I'm getting ready to take them down.

It's SICK.

Yeah, I bet that Matt Hardy would tear Edge a brand new ******* too. Afterall I hear that Edge is pure water muscle, and Hardy had way more strict training. Like you said, what goes around comes around and I hope that Lita and Edge both get theirs. I have an autographed Edge photo as well, but I don't give a **** about it anymore.

[HotBoy]

I agree with everyone else who feels that the Matt Hardy music was completely crass.
What's more crass is that the WWE allowed it!!! But (of course), if it makes for good ratings, what does V. McMahon care??!

[HotBoy]

Now, I have a question: Where is Trish Stratus? Will she be back any time soon?

[onelegasy]

I found this to be a little funny.

Especially when I tried picturing this happening in the WWE.

Turn up the volume and enjoy.

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2V64V6IU79X0Z1J6LQ27GQPJ3X

[carnage4u]

In case this hasn't been posted yet: courtesy of the draft lottery, the newest members of Smackdown are:

Muhammad Hassan & Davari!!!


this makes me very happy

[chewie]

Now, I have a question: Where is Trish Stratus? Will she be back any time soon?

I read that she was supposed to come back to Raw this last week, but I guess that didn't happen.

[Halofan1]

people take the matt thign to heart.. its not like edge screwed around with YOUR other half.. and everyones keeps saying it was edges and litas idea to play matt hardy music.
uhh. yeah. im fairly confident it was the powers that be that decided it, not them

its just a angle and its not that over the top. they are crucifying jesus or baking jews in an oven or something.

its not like real life affairs have Never been used in an angle before.

It's not the fact that I don't have a relation to Matt Hardy or Edge's (soon-to-be former) wife, it's the way they're handling the situation. And as someone said, Kane is just a doll named Matt Hardy and if anything they killed the whole "Marriage angle" when Hardy's music played.

The point is they're not handling this professionally. Before Monday, they were doing fine with handling it. And even IF someone in the WWE wanted it to play, Edge and Lita should have stepped up, showed some class and said "No, it's disrespectful to what happend." It was basically a spit in the face to Matt Hardy and all the fans who've supported him.

I swear I hope they just get Edge's title shot out of the way and have him lose to Batista. I'll turn off RAW if they make him champ (because IRL, Batista would stomp his ******* in 8 times.)

[Halofan1]

Yeah, I bet that Matt Hardy would tear Edge a brand new ******* too. Afterall I hear that Edge is pure water muscle, and Hardy had way more strict training. Like you said, what goes around comes around and I hope that Lita and Edge both get theirs. I have an autographed Edge photo as well, but I don't give a **** about it anymore.


This has made me ashamed that I had a crush on Lita for almost five years.

[onelegasy]

I'd still sleep with Lita...









..I just wouldn't enjoy it as much.

[carnage4u]

lol
maybe i just have no morals, or maybe i just dont care, or maybe its both, but honestly it doenst bother me.

what JBL did to the Blue Meanie at the PPV bothers me 100x more.

[ZombieMan]

what JBL did to the Blue Meanie at the PPV bothers me 100x more.

Now, that on the other hand doesn't bother me as much. For the fact that if your in the wrestling business, you have to expect some shooting going on. Its not right if the wrestler is a bully though all the time. But if a wrestler doesn't like another wrestler for some reason, then when they meet, they should both expect confrontation and some ACTUAL shots. I can't count the times that a guy named Billy Ray has shot on me and actually hit me during shows, and tried to hurt me. It wasn't taken as lightly from my boss though because the guy was known for doing it to alot of younger wrestlers. I don't think that Billy will be back for another show. It happens in this business is all that I'm saying and you kind of have to expect it. LOL it sucks!

[chewie]

So who does everybody predict as the 4 last draft picks?

I think I'll keep with what I thought from the beginning. Bastista wins and goes over to Smackdown. Christian loses and goes over. Eddie Guerrero comes to Raw along with the Big Show.

[ZombieMan]

I'm really glad that you brought that up chewie! I think that TyRoss was right earlier about Jericho. I think that Jericho will win the WWE heavyweight title and go over to Smackdown. I also think that Christian will be drafted to Smackdown as well. I think that Eddie Guerrero and Rene Dupree will be coming to Raw.

[DangerMouse]

I thought Jericho was going to leave WWE?

I can't see Cena gaining all that momentum with winning the title, coming to RAW and having a CD released and a movie coming out, only to lose the title and having that title go back to Smackdown after being on RAW for just under a month.


Then again, this is the WWE.

[BWSword]

so whoever wins the wwe title goes to smackdown? So john cena could come back to smackdown? or chris jericho or christian?

[RedVader 2004]

I Think Batista and Shelton will stay on raw and Jericho and Edge will go to Smackdown. I think Booker T and Mysterio would be my picks but it will probably be JBL and Big Show

[DangerMouse]

Although it it would make sense to:

-have Cena drop the title.
-the new WWE title holder goes to Smackdown.
-Edge uses his option on the WWE title holder and he and Lita go to Smackdown as wildcard picks.

But that would mean a "baby face" would have to be the WWE title holder.

[filmstudent04]

new smackdown draft choice......Muhammed Hassan. Personally i think this pick is lame.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Ty, you have a pretty good mind for wrestling as I can see. You have some good ideas.

[FVD]

I gotta start catching up on the shows. I never have time to watch them nowadays. :(

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I haven't watched Smackdown for awhile. I've been real busy throughout the weeknights lately. I only have time for Raw it seems like, these days.

[Rogue]

Rogue taught me everything I know.



Damn right, I did. Took me a while too but it worked. We just gotta work on the techincal aspect of it now.

Speaking of which...what are ya'lls favorite moves?

I was watching Raw the other night and I realized that I have a soft spot for the Northern Lights Suplex. Any time I see one I'm just like "niice" hehe. It's not a devastating move or anything it just rocks. I love Victoria's Widows Peak too - next to Jazz's finisher it's easily the most brutal female finisher in WWE. Looks like it'd really wreck your knees if done wrong.

[DangerMouse]

Call me crazy, but I always loved Goldberg's "spear". But not when it was done in an obvious way. When he was first starting out on Nitro, they didn't build it up as much and it just came out of no where.

Of course the "Stone Cold Stunner" never gets old, and neither does the "Tombstone".

[RedVader 2004]

My five Favorite finishing moves are still to this day. The Stone Cold Stunner, The Rock Bottum, The Batista Bomb, Even though you hate HHH Pedigree it is my fourth favorite finisher and so is the Spear. NOt the Edge or Ryno versions but Goldbergs crush your ribs Spear.

[ZombieMan]

I have to agree Rogue about the Northern Lights Suplex. I have a soft spot for that move too, but it does hurt when executed in the ring. ;) Also, I love the Texas Cloverleaf but you don't really see that submission much anymore. I also like the belly-to-belly release suplex. That one always gets me going!!!

[HotBoy]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but this past week on Smackdown, Juventud Gurrerra, Psicosis & Super Crazy, now known as MexiCool made their debut!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jericho pull Juventud's mask off during their WCW days?

[DangerMouse]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but this past week on Smackdown, Juventud Gurrerra, Psicosis & Super Crazy, now known as MexiCool made their debut!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jericho pull Juventud's mask off during their WCW days?


Yep, The Rock made fun of him for it when Jericho first went over to the WWE.

Are they all wearing masks?

[ZombieMan]

I read that they are all wearing masks except for Super Crazy of course.

[chewie]

I was happy to see Angle us the STF the other night. I always liked that submission. Also the double arm ddt. don't see hardly anybody use that anymore.

[stunt double]

As for finishers, my list

Bob Backlund's "chicken wing" (dude just went all mental)
Hulk Hogan's "big boot running leg drop combo"
The Rock's "peoples' elbow"
Batista's "batista bomb"
Brock Lesnar's "f5"
Dudley Boys' "3D"

[Halofan1]

My favorite finisher has been, and always will be "The Stone Cold Stunner".

Top 5 Finishers

1. Stone Cold Stunner
2. The People's Elbow
3. Five-Star Frog Splash
4. Batista Bomb
5. Tombstone Piledriver

Personal favorite - AngelBomb (which was my finisher here in a league me and my friends had.)

Gayest move - The Pedigree.

[RedVader 2004]

I liked Kevin Nash's power bomb and the Undertakers newer move the last ride. I liked Goldbergs ultimate finisher the Jackhammer. No one got up from that.

[Rogue]

The problem I have with The Pedigree is not the move itself, it's the time that Trips takes to execute it. By the time he finishes tossing his nappy ass hair around, you could have countered out of it.

Don't get me wrong, wrestling is all about suspension of disbelief..but I can't suspend mine that long. He takes too damn long!!.

[carnage4u]

The Pedigree would be in my Top 5 favorite moves as well.

I saw a little kid give it to another at some park, and it was just amusing..


1.) Powerbomb (a perfect powerbomb brings a tear to my eye)
2.)Tombstone
3.)SuperKick
4.)Stunner(just burnt into my brain)
5.)Pedigree



Sid back in the day did some great Powerbombs, (im one of the 5 people that miss that guy)


I really miss tag team finishers.. we some great ones back with Hart Foundation and other various tag teams. any combo finisher i approve of.

[chewie]

some of my favorites in no particular order

Goldberg's Jackhammer
Razor's Edge
Scorpion Death Lock
Diamond Cutter
Rock Bottom
Perfect Plex
Tombstone Piledriver

Predictions for tonight

World Heavyweight Championship - Hell in a Cell
- BATISTA (c) vs. Triple H.

WWE Championship - Triple Threat Match
- jOHN CENA (c) vs. Christian vs. Chris Jericho.

- Shawn Michaels vs. kURT ANGLE.

- EDGE w/ Lita vs. Kane.

WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
- Carlito (c) vs. SHELTON BENJAMIN.

- VICTORIA vs. Christy Hemme.

[jbailey84]

my picks for tonights ppv

World Heavyweight Championship - Hell in a Cell
BATISTA (c) vs. Triple H*

WWE Championship - Triple Threat Match
*jOHN CENA (c) vs. Christian vs. Chris Jericho.

Shawn Michaels vs. kURT ANGLE*.

EDGE w/ Lita vs. Kane*.

WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
*Carlito (c) vs. SHELTON BENJAMIN.

*VICTORIA vs. Christy Hemme.

some odd reason i see Trips getting the title then lose it at Summer Slam.


here are my top 5 favorite finishers

1. Tombstone
2. Stunner
3. F-5
4. Tazmission
5. Angle Slam

[Halofan1]

All in all a good PPV. The Hell in a Cell match is the best Batista/HHH match, but not the best Hell in a Cell match. Cena was entertaining as was Carlito. Solid 9/10.

[stunt double]

As promised. Back from Vengeance and since I can't post all 300 some pics, here's two.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/indoman/Picture356.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/indoman/Picture407.jpg

[Halofan1]

What happend when they went off the air? Nice pics BTW.

[carnage4u]

The PPV was decent. Hell in the Cell match was a good fight, but not a good Hell in a cell match... But more then i thought it would be.

Angle/michaels was good
and i actually really liked the Kane/edge match.

Cena/christian/jechico was a lot of fun, but crappy ending with the fool winning(how anyone likes cena is beyond me)

[DangerMouse]

Now what happens with Triple H?

The Batista story line is over. Who does Batista start a feud with and who does HHH start a fued with.

Did anything happen last night during the PPV that would tip anyone off regarding new story lines?

[LS2002]

I think HHH is going to be drafted to SD.

[carnage4u]

Did anything happen last night during the PPV that would tip anyone off regarding new story lines?

no
so either one gets drafted or one started a fued with one that is drafted

How batista handles his next fued, will to me, show me what kind of champ he is.

[HotBoy]

Here's a prediction, or 2: a heel turn for Shelton Benjamin(now that Kurt Angle's on RAW), and a feud with HBK.

[RedVader 2004]

I think Batista after last nights win is kind of to big to be let go from raw. I see them getting rid of Jericho and Christian before Batista or HHH. Carlito is a heel now but Benjamin should have beaten him and that could make him turn. I Could see him as new member of Evolution. Who will be next to raw is my question? Is there two or one pick tonight on raw.

[DangerMouse]

I hope they give the "Evolution" thing a rest.

In fact, if they're going to do a "stable" angle, I'd like to see one composed of newer to middle of the road wrestlers that aren't getting any story lines.

[stunt double]

Here's a couple more to enjoy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/indoman/Picture706.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/indoman//Picture716.jpg
Get on board the Ho Train!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/indoman/Picture712.jpg

[Halofan1]

The PPV was decent. Hell in the Cell match was a good fight, but not a good Hell in a cell match... But more then i thought it would be.

Angle/michaels was good
and i actually really liked the Kane/edge match.

Cena/christian/jechico was a lot of fun, but crappy ending with the fool winning(how anyone likes cena is beyond me)

The Hell in the Cell was the best Batista/HHH match, but not the best Hell in a Cell match.

[Halofan1]

Now what happens with Triple H?

The Batista story line is over. Who does Batista start a feud with and who does HHH start a fued with.

Did anything happen last night during the PPV that would tip anyone off regarding new story lines?

Hunter starts a feud with Angle. Angle makes a face turn (which I am all but open to, Angle is very fun to boo but he is one of the best in the ring.)

Batista starts his feud with Edge so they can have their match at SummerSlam.

Carlito still remains cool.

[Starwars411]

Ten bucks says that the 3rd person for the match tonight is Marty Janetty.

EDIT: Damn, I was wrong, but Hulk Hogan is still great. LOL.

[Halofan1]

Great RAW. Only weak spot I would say was the Diva search and even Big Vis made that entertaining.

[carnage4u]

diva search is beyond a waste of time.. Big vis helped a little

[chewie]

I see the diva search will be exactly as it was last year. I just cringe when I hear those girls tell the audience why they should be the winner. The Angle/Flair match was really entertaining. It wasn't the typical Flair match. He did fall off the top though, when he wasn't supposed to. Also I would like to point out that I did pick 3 out of the 4 draftees correctly.

[carnage4u]

3 out of the 4? there were 5 picks total :) 3 for 5? :)

[filmstudent04]

Big time shockers for this weeks smackdown...the two picks are 1)Christian....and here where the shock comes from....2) Batista!!!...apparantly they are wanting him to feud with JBL...does ne one else think that this is going to be amazingly stupid? So does that mean then, HHH will go for John Cena? Orrrrrrr supposedly Hogan is on next weeks raw for the Cabanna, will he be going for the title once again?

[DangerMouse]

When I saw Big Show on RAW last night, the first thing that popped into my mind was "Feud with Batista", otherwise why would they bring him over?

If Batista is going to go to Smackdown, it makes no sense, hence the reason why it'll probably happen.

What happens with Big Show then? And why have Batista feud with JBL when it appears he will win the "Smackdown Title"?

If Batista does go over to Smackdown, I see HHH once again playing title "keep away" from John Cena and basically ruining a great run by Cena and turning him into a mid-carder.

He might be a great performer, but I have never wished so much to see HHH re-injure himself and make it permanent.

I guess this goes to show the fact that HHH is not capable of being the calibur of wrestler or personality of Kurt Angle.

Angle can not only carry a good match againt virtually anyone, he can carry a fued that doesn't involve a title and make it as interesting as the story lines that involve a title.

Without a story line that involves a title, HHH is nothing.

[filmstudent04]

the news is true dangermouse... just go to www.backstagewrestling.com for more details....

[ZombieMan]

I didn't get to watch Raw last night due to me being sick and sleeping alot. However, I heard some news on the net. I think that the Big Show coming to Raw was a lame pick and I can't figure out where they are going with that one. As for RVD, I'm very happy to hear that! He's a very talented wrestler and I can't wait to see more of him, and this time on Raw. :)

[insaneMoViEgoer]

If Batista does go over to Smackdown, I see HHH once again playing title "keep away" from John Cena and basically ruining a great run by Cena and turning him into a mid-carder.
i doubt they would do that. they're hyping Cena as their next Austin/Rock.

[DangerMouse]

i doubt they would do that. they're hyping Cena as their next Austin/Rock.

Any feud with HHH and Cena would result in the opposite. HHH's ego won't allow it.

He's already PO'd enough that he's not the next Austin/Rock as it is. With him already having one small movie role on his resume, I don't see him pushing someone else to be bigger than him.

[chewie]

3 out of the 4? there were 5 picks total :) 3 for 5? :)

No there were 2 picks for each show.

Big Show and RVD to Raw
Christian and Batista to Smackdown

Like I said before after Cena got drafted to Raw it was obvious that Batista would go to Smackdown as a draft pick in the last week if he held on to the title.

[carnage4u]

its odd they did both shows in one night.. is it just a silly hoax or was it really taped last night?

losing christian sucks a lot, and gaining cena is garbage...

[insaneMoViEgoer]

its odd they did both shows in one night.. is it just a silly hoax or was it really taped last night?
its one of their "supershows". they did it before wrestlemania too.

[RedVader 2004]

Losinf Batista sucks worse then Christian for Cena is no Batista. It makes no since in keeping HHH over Batista. If Bishoff is smart he will trade back for Batista.

[ZombieMan]

I'm happy with gaining Cena, but losing Christian did suck! As for losing Batista, I don't really give a crap. I think he was alright but not great.

[RedVader 2004]

Maybe Goldberg will come back or a new power house wrestler just as good will appear.

[ZombieMan]

I don't think that we will EVER see Goldberg come back and thank god if we don't. I got real sick of him. As for power house wrestlers, they have enough of them now in my opinion.

[Halofan1]

Man, I really have no reason to watch RAW now except for Carlito, RVD and the occasional appearance of Stone Cold. Batista was my favorite.

Oh yeah, and as for HHH, he won't be the next Rock/Austin because they had original gimmicks. HHH is Harley Race II.

EDIT - Another thing that doesn't make much sense to me: They draft Cena to RAW and start a feud with him and Christian that had ALOT of potential, but they draft Christian to SmackDown?!

[carnage4u]

oddly. i have no reason to watch smackdown expect for christian and the one again off again appearance of the UT. and to see how batista holds up in the b league

[chewie]

I'm with you Carnage. The only reason to watch Smackdown is for the Raw guys who got drafted over there, and the Undertaker.

[DangerMouse]

Another thing that doesn't make much sense to me: They draft Cena to RAW and start a feud with him and Christian that had ALOT of potential, but they draft Christian to SmackDown?!

So HHH can start a feud with Cena.

[ZombieMan]

Oh yeah, and as for HHH, he won't be the next Rock/Austin because they had original gimmicks. HHH is Harley Race II.

At least Harley was a much more supreme wrestler than Triple H. Harley was pretty popular in his time, but he is no Stone Cold or The Rock, I can say that much. However, he is still heavily respected by fans, young and old. I'm sure that people will remember Trips like Harley though, your right. Also Harley told me once that when he talked to Triple H for the first time that Trips said that Harley was his favorite wrestler of all-time, so yeah, he tries to take after Harley alot. And especially with all of the knee moves and new facial hair style.

[RedVader 2004]

I'd like to see a Kane Big Show rivalry and RVD and Shelton Benjamin feud or Tag Team. They need to build up the tag bought thing on raw. I am most dissapointed in loosing the World ChampionSHIP Title to smackdown for really it was a much bigger belt by appearance.

[chewie]

The WWE title should be the belt in the limelight anyway.

[carnage4u]

I will say if Cena, triple HHH go into a feud, i may break my tv, when i throw my roomate at the tv in complete disgust.

[DangerMouse]

Better buy your roommate some health insurance because there's no way HHH is part of a feud that doesn't involve the Championship belt.

[Halofan1]

At least Harley was a much more supreme wrestler than Triple H. Harley was pretty popular in his time, but he is no Stone Cold or The Rock, I can say that much. However, he is still heavily respected by fans, young and old. I'm sure that people will remember Trips like Harley though, your right. Also Harley told me once that when he talked to Triple H for the first time that Trips said that Harley was his favorite wrestler of all-time, so yeah, he tries to take after Harley alot. And especially with all of the knee moves and new facial hair style.

Agreed. HHH is only a big name because of who he sleeps with. Rock and Austin are two of the best because not only could they hold their own on the mic, they knew how to wrestle. HHH knows three moves total: The knee, The atomic drop and the Pedigree. I've also noticed he's only halfway decent when he's in a stable. In D-X he was awesome (and even then, it's because he had good support of the Outlaws and the quasi-underrated X-Pac), in the Kliq he was good, and in The Four Horseman II...er..Evolution he was EEHHH. I feel alot of the heat Triple H has is not because he's the "heel", but because people are just sick of him. Hell, he's not even the top two heels the WWE has (I feel Carlito and Angle are.)


On a side note, IMO Rock and Stone Cold are up there with Hogan and Hart for best of the best.

[ZombieMan]

I agree that The Rock and Stone Cold are up there with Hogan and Hart. I would say especially Stone Cold Steve Austin though.

[RedVader 2004]

Even Shawn Micheals is in that class of Hogan, Austin, Rock and Undertaker. HHH isn't even as talented as Kurt Angle.

As powerful as Batista is how can you let one wrestler kick your ass 3 times and in three pay paer views i a row. Even Benjamin and good ole JR beat HHH.

[slinger]

is not because he's the "heel", but because people are just sick of him. Hell, he's not even the top two heels the WWE has (I feel Carlito and Angle are.)


I would say Edge at number one, sadly, and then Angle.

[Halofan1]

I would say Edge at number one, sadly, and then Angle.

No, Edge is just getting the push he should have had a few years ago. He's not as good as he used to be. Besides, all he does is cry.

Carlito, Angle, and Christian are the three top heels of the WWE.

[Halofan1]

I agree that The Rock and Stone Cold are up there with Hogan and Hart. I would say especially Stone Cold Steve Austin though.

Oh yes, and I'll say I prefered Austin over Rock as well. It also helped that behind the scenes those guys were friends (along with Foley or so I was told) so thats probably why their matches were great. Austin knew how to entertain even in his WCW days, he was just never given the chance to shine.

[Halofan1]

Even Shawn Micheals is in that class of Hogan, Austin, Rock and Undertaker. HHH isn't even as talented as Kurt Angle.

As powerful as Batista is how can you let one wrestler kick your ass 3 times and in three pay paer views i a row. Even Benjamin and good ole JR beat HHH.

Ehhhh...Michaels not so much. But then again you have to remember I'm a big Hart fan and still not over that lying son of a *****'s actions at Survivor Series '97 (I know McMahon is to blame alot, but Michaels should not have lied about it).

And HHH has no talent at all. The day he goes away will be a day soon remembered.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005_/articles/1120190680.php

WWE.com has learned that RAW General Manager Eric Bischoff and SmackDown! General Manager Theodore Long have agreed on a blockbuster 11-person deal that will likely have a big impact on both rosters.

RAW brand gets:

* Mark Jindrak: Former WCW Tag Team Champion
* Rene Dupree: Former WWE Tag Team Champion; former World Tag Team Champion
* Danny Basham: Two-time former WWE Tag Team Champion
* Kenzo Suzuki (with Hiroko): Former WWE Tag Team Champion
* Chavo Guerrero: Five-time former Cruiserweight Champion; two-time former WWE Tag Team Champion


SmackDown! brand gets:

* William Regal: Four-time former WCW Television Champion; three-time former Hardcore Champion; four-time former European Champion; former Intercontinental Champion; four-time former World Tag Team Champion
* Candice: 2004 RAW Diva Search contestant
* Sylvain Grenier: Four-time former World Tag Team Champion
* Simon Dean: Former RAW sponsor
* Steven Richards: Former two-time ECW Tag Team Champion; former 21-time Hardcore Champion

[carnage4u]

i'm not sure who loses more on that trade.

[ZombieMan]

Rene Dupree went to Raw and Sylvain Grenier went to Smackdown? That was kind of a dumb trade if you ask me. Except, I guess Rene might team up with Rob Conway now. They should have stuck both of those French idiots (Rene and Sylvain) on Smackdown to spice up their tag division. I would rather Rob Conway go on as a singles wrestler. Kenzo Suzuki coming to Raw really sucks. I don't think that he's a very good wrestler. As for Danny Basham, he's one uggggly man, but he can wrestle at least. Chavo Guerrero looks to be a good addition to Raw though. About the Smackdown trades...I'm not happy to see William Regal leave Raw, but then it might be a bit of a benefit for him, he might get more time in the ring on Smackdown. Candice, WHO CARES?! Simon Dean and Steven Richards going to Smackdown doesn't really matter to me.

[slinger]

No, Edge is just getting the push he should have had a few years ago. He's not as good as he used to be. Besides, all he does is cry.

Carlito, Angle, and Christian are the three top heels of the WWE.

Yeah you're right about the top three, Edge is actually 'hated' by the fans, perhaps in a level HHH isn't at yet.

[Halofan1]

Yeah you're right about the top three, Edge is actually 'hated' by the fans, perhaps in a level HHH isn't at yet.

Correct. HHH is at the level of "get the hell away" while the fans feel more hatred toward Edge because it feels like he stabbed us all in the back (it may not have shown, but Matt Hardy had legions of fans).

I made the comment about the heels because those guys are interesting to watch and they're good in the ring.

[RedVader 2004]

Actually i heard that the heel type of wrestlers are nicer to sign autographs then some clean ones. I heard that back when there were several dirty wrestlers back in th 80s. I don't know if HHH is but i imagine Flair is and a few others.

[Halofan1]

Actually i heard that the heel type of wrestlers are nicer to sign autographs then some clean ones. I heard that back when there were several dirty wrestlers back in th 80s. I don't know if HHH is but i imagine Flair is and a few others.

I met Rock and Austin one time and they're two of the nicest people I've met. I've also heard Kurt Angle is one of the nicest people in the industry.

[ZombieMan]

Actually i heard that the heel type of wrestlers are nicer to sign autographs then some clean ones. I heard that back when there were several dirty wrestlers back in th 80s. I don't know if HHH is but i imagine Flair is and a few others.

I know that Triple H is very welcoming backstage at shows to wrestlers who come in for dark matches, but as for signing autographs, I have no idea. Flair was in the next town over and I got to see him up close, but I never got to actually talk to him, but he was real nice to all of the fans and signed autographs.

[jbailey84]

jericho and rhyno had to been the nicest that i've met

[slinger]

Correct. HHH is at the level of "get the hell away" while the fans feel more hatred toward Edge because it feels like he stabbed us all in the back (it may not have shown, but Matt Hardy had legions of fans).

I made the comment about the heels because those guys are interesting to watch and they're good in the ring.

Angle has always been one of my favourites, especially as heel. Christian seems like the next heel to turn babyface simply because the fans want him to be. I can see in the near future (possibility) that Edge and Christian meet at a PPV both being champions of their respective brands.

SummerSlam 2005
???
RAW:
Cena vs Edge
Angle vs HBK III
Big Show vs HHH
Shelton vs Carlito vs ?

SD!:
Batista vs Christian
Orton vs Taker
JBL/Hassan vs Benoit/Booker T

[chewie]

Summerslam predictions

Cena vs HHH for WWE title
Batista vs JBL for World Heavyweight championship
Randy Orton vs Undertaker II
Christian vs Booker T (1 of these guys will win the US title before making this a title match)
Jericho vs Carlito for the Intercontinental title
Angle vs Michaels
Trish Stratus vs. ? for woman's title
some stupid event with the diva search competition

[Starwars411]

Actually I think it might be Edge vs. Cena, and Edge will use the Money in the Bank thing. Or because WWE has there head's up HHH's ass, it'll be a 3-way.

And Trish will probably fight Victoria.

[slinger]

Actually I think it might be Edge vs. Cena, and Edge will use the Money in the Bank thing. Or because WWE has there head's up HHH's ass, it'll be a 3-way.

And Trish will probably fight Victoria.

While SummerSlam is the second biggest PPV of the year, I think they'll save Cena vs HHH for next year's WrestleMania. Edge like him or not, the fans hate him and would pay to see Cena defeat him now rather then later. Have Edge win in a rematch at Unforgiven (help from Lita) and then have Cena win it back at a Survivor Series Elimination Chamber Match. Can really start the Cena/HHH feud then. HHH has been in all the RAW Title matches this year, time for a brief break.

[Halofan1]

Angle has always been one of my favourites, especially as heel. Christian seems like the next heel to turn babyface simply because the fans want him to be. I can see in the near future (possibility) that Edge and Christian meet at a PPV both being champions of their respective brands.

SummerSlam 2005
???
RAW:
Cena vs Edge
Angle vs HBK III
Big Show vs HHH
Shelton vs Carlito vs ?

SD!:
Batista vs Christian
Orton vs Taker
JBL/Hassan vs Benoit/Booker T

If Christian becomes a face I'd be open to it. I'd like to see how he works as a face.

SummerSlam Predictions

WWE Title: Cena vs. Edge
World Heavyweight Title: Batista vs. JBL vs. Christian
Randy Orton vs. The Undertaker
HBK vs. Kurt Angle
Intercontinental Title: Carlito vs. Rob Van Dam

[PapaRoachRules]

i know this is a little later, but when Hulk Hogan showed up on Raw! we were freaking out. it was awesome. JBL was pissed when he didn't get his title also. but it was kick ass how Batista is on Smackdown now.

[ZombieMan]

If Christian becomes a face I'd be open to it. I'd like to see how he works as a face.

I would totally love to see that!!! Christian as a face...I like that idea. :)

[FVD]

So Batista is on Smackdown now? And when did Jericho turn heel again?

And it was cool to see RVD back on Raw. Alright we're gonna get the Mr Monday Night monicker once again.

[Halofan1]

I would totally love to see that!!! Christian as a face...I like that idea. :)

Me too. His character is PERFECT for it and I bet he'd be one of the top faces in the WWE.

[Halofan1]

So Batista is on Smackdown now? And when did Jericho turn heel again?

And it was cool to see RVD back on Raw. Alright we're gonna get the Mr Monday Night monicker once again.

Y2J didn't "Turn" heel necessarily.

And I cannot wait for RVD to go back to Mr. Monday Night.

[PapaRoachRules]

Batista on Smackdown is gonna be kick ass

[RedVader 2004]

Does anyone know why they have been having Hogan on Raw. Besides the obvious story lines with Shawn Micheals. Also does anyone see a future new Evolution. Will HHH recruit new lackys so he can get another title. I bet Shawn Micheals will turn Heel one day for he's been clean for quite a while.

[Halofan1]

Batista on Smackdown is gonna be kick ass

Not for me. I can never see SmackDown! and I love the guy.

[PapaRoachRules]

why can you never see it.

also, that was bull**** that Undertaker got discolified(sp). that ****ing iraqi. ;)

[ZombieMan]

As much as I really hate to admit this. Since I have so much anger for Edge right now, for what he did. I bought his book the other day and I have to say that its actually pretty interesting, and it has some good backstage stories and such.

[PapaRoachRules]

would you guys recommend Velocity? i just started watching whestling and i am not sure if i should even bother.

[ZombieMan]

Definitely man!!! Velocity has some good up and coming wrestlers. Even really good under rated wrestlers. I would watch it if you get the chance. :)

[slinger]

Me too. His character is PERFECT for it and I bet he'd be one of the top faces in the WWE.

Going to have to watch when CC returns to Canada, then he'll be the top face of the night.

[Halofan1]

why can you never see it.

also, that was bull**** that Undertaker got discolified(sp). that ****ing iraqi. ;)

A local bar here has trivia every Thursday at 8 and it's become tradition for me and my two closest pals to go there. We're pretty cool with everyone in there.

[Halofan1]

would you guys recommend Velocity? i just started watching whestling and i am not sure if i should even bother.

Oh man, if you just started to watch you missed the era of Stone Cold.

[Ramplate]

Sumo Wrestling is good - I watch that every time I see it on ESPN

[Halofan1]

All I can say is this...

"YOU SCREWED BRET! YOU SCREWED BRET!"

Ah, I can hear that being chanted more and more now. :D

[Warren]

HEEL TURN~!

He's better as a heel.

[Halofan1]

Agreed, and finally I won't catch **** for booing him.

(Bret Hart fan for life here.)