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Tony Montana

01-26-2005, 03:30 PM

Would love to have a tape of all those shootings...

I used to watch WWF and sometimes WCW long long time ago and was pretty amazed how well known wrestlers handled some rookies... my god, some were really thrown around like dolls and you could notice that noone cared about them especially not the monster they were wrestling.

I remember how Razor Ramon once made his Razors Edge with some smaller guy... it was pretty obvious that Ramon was a little pissed off and he rammed that guy into the floor with all his strengt, so that the guy landed directly on his head and neck in right angle, he bounced of the ground like a ****ing doll and made a roll in the air before landing on his back again!!!!!!!!!!!

I though that he must have snapped his back and is dead, the ref ran to him and other people around the ring ran to the ring too, fight was over and they have called medics to get that poor guy to the hospital. Camera was close, but you couldnt see ****....

ZombieMan

01-26-2005, 04:20 PM

^^^ I wouldn't doubt that Razor Ramon (Scott Hall) did that because he does have a bit of a temper problem. I met him about 6 months ago at a Rising High Wrestling show in Chicago and he seemed to not get along with the indy wrestlers very well. He inflicted alot of pain on the guy that he wrestled that night too. The promoter doesn't care to bring him back in ever again.

HotBoy

01-26-2005, 05:16 PM

OK. I've got a few Royal Rumble predictions:

1.The winner will either be John Cena, or Shelton Benjamin(reason: Shelton Benjamin has beaten HHH 3 times, but has never faced him for the World Heavyweight Title, and John Cena has yet to get a shot at the WWE Title).
2. HHH will win his match against Randy Orton.
3. Kurt Angle will win the WWE Title.
4. Ric Flair, and HHH are somehow going to screw Batista(possibly get him eliminated from the Royal Rumble match).

ZombieMan

01-26-2005, 05:19 PM

I think that John Cena will win the Rumble, or I'm hoping anyhow. I'd love to see him go for the big title! Yes, I also think that Triple H will beat Orton for the WWE title.

ilovecandace

01-26-2005, 06:42 PM

did watch raw lasxt week
when kane chokes slammed snisky
after it happened both kane and snisky had smiles on there face ....and snisky asked kane if he was allright .....and kane was like yeah how about u and he was liek good ...then the refs came
and the both looked knowcked out..... i thought it was so funny
lol, go to wwe.com and look it up u can watch it
lol

ZombieMan

01-26-2005, 06:56 PM

^^^ Yeah, lol they ****ed up.

ilovecandace

01-27-2005, 01:57 PM

onelegasy

01-27-2005, 03:04 PM

WWE SMACKDOWN WILL NOT BE RENEWED ON UPN WHEN WWE'S CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES
By: Joey Styles
1/26/2005 5:38:14 PM

From insidebayarea.com:

There's only one year left on the contract for World Wrestling Entertainment's "Smackdown!" and the network has decided to let it go.

"It still makes us a decent amount of money," says Leslie Moonves, co-president and co-chief operating office for Viacom, which owns both CBS and UPN. "When you think about the powerhouses of CBS and NBC on Thursday night, it's great counter-programming. (But) it doesn't fit into the overall (programming) strategy."

ilovecandace

01-27-2005, 03:13 PM

wtf man sorry i cant type this morning

onelegasy

01-27-2005, 03:51 PM

I'd rather see Raw go than Smackdown.

ZombieMan

01-27-2005, 04:10 PM

I personally like both Raw and Smackdown. I use to hate Smackdown but it has gotten alot better lately. I won't mind seeing it go though I guess either.

ilovecandace

01-27-2005, 04:35 PM

i watch both and i willadmit smackdown ois not as repetive as raw ...but raw is the same story lines all the time i persnolly think they need top get rid of the brand rosters and do longer shows or more shows but anyways

onelegasy

01-28-2005, 10:10 AM

ZombieMan

01-28-2005, 10:28 AM

HHH kills Raw for me, so I dont watch it.

The amount of time the women get on both shows pisses me off too. Pillow fighting, bra and panties, spanking, screw that and give me a match between Mysterio and Chavo, or Ultimo and Hurricane.

Give the smaller guys the air time to show you what wrestling is all about.

I hate HATE seeing the big slow talentless guy in the ring hurting other wrestlers and stinking up the ring.

JBL as a champ is a sick joke and ratings show that it has to change. UT? Please.

Heidencrap? Where is my remote? There is a lot of talent in Smackdown but instead we see Orlando, Jindrak, and the worst wrestler I've seen in the ring in years. Funaki with a belt? Where is my puke bucket? Any ideas who the tag teams are?

Fire the writers, give Paul Heyman his Smackdown back and let the stars shine.

Yeah, I hate the amount of time that the women get on TV too. Its just eye-candy is all, nobody cares about them wrestling much. Everytime I invite people over for a pay-per-view and the women's match comes on, we all just cringe at first and then talk through the boring match. The cruiserweights do need to be shown more on TV, and don't forget about Shannon Moore. I also get tired of seeing all of those talentless big monsters in the ring constantly. There are a few who can actually wrestle, but most of the time they can't. JBL is a big joke, and I wish that the WWE would bring him back as the old "Alcolyte" Bradshaw, he was a bad ass then and it was a better gimmick. It wasn't boring at least to me. As for The Undertaker, he's not too bad, but someone else deserves a chance. Heidenreich does suck, I agree with that. Funaki has my attention, I think that he is a pretty decent wrestler. I'd like to go up against him in the ring. They need to get rid of the boring Bashams too, they are just freakin' horrible. They have no charisma and never will, the fans can't get into them at all.

Se7en the movie

01-28-2005, 12:16 PM

HHH kills Raw for me, so I dont watch it.

The amount of time the women get on both shows pisses me off too. Pillow fighting, bra and panties, spanking, screw that and give me a match between Mysterio and Chavo, or Ultimo and Hurricane.

Give the smaller guys the air time to show you what wrestling is all about.

I hate HATE seeing the big slow talentless guy in the ring hurting other wrestlers and stinking up the ring.

JBL as a champ is a sick joke and ratings show that it has to change. UT? Please.

Heidencrap? Where is my remote? There is a lot of talent in Smackdown but instead we see Orlando, Jindrak, and the worst wrestler I've seen in the ring in years. Funaki with a belt? Where is my puke bucket? Any ideas who the tag teams are?

But wait!

There is going to be another womens match !

Fire the writers, give Paul Heyman his Smackdown back and let the stars shine.

Shock! I like JBL. He has great charisma and cuts some killer promos and come on he ain't the worst wrestler in the world. I think his whole gimmick is so funny and great to dislike. Bashems as "Secretarys of Defence" is quite clever. I have yet to see Heindenrich wrestle so I can't really judge but I've seen his promos and when he isn't doing poems he isn't terrible. Funaki is a legend! I was so ****ing delighted to see him as cruiserweight champ, the guy is great. Smackdown I always thought was the better brand as the matches were usually better and the cruiserweights are always impressive.

ilovecandace

01-28-2005, 12:47 PM

i want to see sting or jeff hardy back in the wwe....I CANT STAND TNA

onelegasy

01-28-2005, 12:48 PM

Ok.

Funaki is a bad wrestler, I will agree to that, but there are more worthwhile people to hold the belt.

The cruiserweights should be more of a focus.

Kidman, London, Moore, Chavo, Funaki, Mysterio, Ultimo, and Little Guido.

They are thinking about bringing in psychosis (which is good). But they NEED:

La Parka!

ZombieMan

01-28-2005, 01:07 PM

^^^ I would love to see Psychosis in the WWE, and they are also getting ready to sign Super Crazy! I'm real excited about that. :) Glad to see that the cruiserweight division is about to get a push for once. Bring back El Pantera too, he was pretty damn cool.

onelegasy

01-28-2005, 02:11 PM

Super Crazy would an awesome addition to Smackdown, but he would be jobbing to Orlando Jordan or something stupid like that.

ZombieMan

01-28-2005, 02:40 PM

^^^ More than likely, but it would be way cool if they brought him in as an unstoppable cruiserweight force that can take out the biggest of beasts. Then have him take on Rey Misterio, which would make for some classic matches I'm sure.

Halofan1

01-28-2005, 11:34 PM

smackdown sucks
they need to take it off of primtime.......it's so mediorce what do ya'l think would maike it better i personally think having better story lines would be good then also having some one like tomko or batistia go
to them i think that would be cool

F YA'LL I CANTYPE

Honestly, it won't surprise me if Batista ends up challenging JBL for the SmackDown! title because you know Batista will win the Rumble.

ZombieMan

01-28-2005, 11:42 PM

The number 15 on the Smackdown list will be....Michael Cole, haha just kidding! Nahhh, I'm not really sure, but it might not even be a Smackdown star. It could be a newcomer too, or someone returning. Brock Lesnar? LOL
Oh and...I think John Cena or Eddie Guerrero will win the Rumble. I'm pissed that Viscera even got into it, he's not even under contract as far as I know. He's a fat ass and can't do crap.

jbailey84

01-29-2005, 06:24 AM

dont bash me on this, but i am thinking that #15 for Smackdown will be a one time appearance until a contract can get negotiated, Brock Lesnar.

sniktawt

01-29-2005, 11:33 AM

I'm pissed that Viscera even got into it, he's not even under contract as far as I know.

Viscera was signed in November , he's been doing Heat against Val Venis almost every week since then.lol.

And Vince loves this guy , always has.
Remember he won the 1995 King Of The Ring.

As for the Rumble winner , It has to be Batista , the Build up with him and Trips for a Wrestlemania World Title match is a long time coming.
It's rare they finally decided to build something up these days , most matches now are set up sometimes a few days before a PPV , this match has meaning if it's for the title , either way Trips will face Batista at WM.

Can't see them going with Randy again , he just bombed out bad the last time he had the title.
I just don't think he has "it".

Puder may have a strong showing , each year they let someone have that option of going far but getting knocked out late , I think this year it's going to be Puder that gets that honor.

BTW why is Scotty in this ???????
Vis is bad but...

lol....TALK ABOUT A WASTED SPOT.

ZombieMan

01-29-2005, 12:07 PM

Viscera was signed in November , he's been doing Heat against Val Venis almost every week since then.lol.

BTW why is Scotty in this ???????
Vis is bad but...

lol....TALK ABOUT A WASTED SPOT.

I would rather have seen Tajiri in it rather than Viscera. I didn't know if they ever officially signed big Vis or not since he isn't on the WWE website under current Raw superstars. What a waste of money he is. Hey, Snik I'm curious as to what you think about William Regal? I would absolutely love to see Shelton Benjamin lose his Intercontinental title and then have Regal feud with whomever wins it from Benjamin and eventually let Regal have the title. I think that Regal is one of the best wrestlers in the world today. He can pull off alot of different moves and even high flying ones if he has to. He is probably my favorite wrestler on Raw right now, I just wish that they would use him in the ring more often.

jbailey84

01-29-2005, 04:15 PM

here are my predictions for the Royal Rumble

HBK Vs Edge*

Taker* Vs Heidenreich

Big Show Vs Kurt Angle* Vs JBL NEW CHAMP!!!!

HHH* Vs Orton

Royal Rumble: If Smackdown, Cena. If Raw, Batista

Halofan1

01-29-2005, 06:05 PM

My Predictions

THE ROYAL RUMBLE MATCH

There's speculation to who the guest entrant could be and I would love to hear the glass break and see Stone Cold or Bret Hart waltz in there and own any and everybody. Realistically I think...er...know Batista is going to win and challenge Triple H at Mania screwing Randy Orton out of a title opportunity. And the guest entrant will be Brock Lesnar.

Winner and hopefully kicking the crap out of HHH at Mania only to lose it a month later at Backlash - Batista

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP:
TRIPLE H VS. RANDY ORTON

I'd like to sit here and tell ya the big RKO is gonna pull this one out but unless WWE wants Orton to lose the belt again one month later before Mania HHH is going to walk away winning this. Yes, it's not fair because HHH isn't what he used to be and thinks it's all about him which it's not. However, ****ing the boss' daughter gets you a long way.

Winner and unfortunatley still Champion - Triple H

TRIPLE THREAT MATCH: WWE CHAMPION JBL VS. KURT ANGLE VS. THE BIG SHOW

It'll be nice to shout "YOU SUCK" again at Angle and Big Slow who knows is in this match other than to give it a "Good guy to root for". But I have a feeling JBL is going to lose to Kurt Angle. Granted I don't watch SmackDown! but if they have Angle win and set-up a title match with Cena vs. Angle at Mania, I may start watching. Again, I'm probably wrong but my pick is Angle.

Winner and New Champion - Kurt Angle

CASKET MATCH: UNDERTAKER VS. HEIDENREICH

First off, Heidenreich is a horrible character. That being said I have a feeling we'll see interference from Gene Snitsky to set-up Heidenreich/Snitsky vs. Undertaker/Kane at WrestleMania. I want to see Undertaker win this and bury Heidenreich for good but I have a feeling this Rumble is a set-up for Mania.

Winner and still stinking up the place - Heidenreich

SHAWN MICHAELS VS. EDGE

I'm not going to explain here why I have a strong distaste for one Shawn Michaels but it involves the screwjob of Bret Hart and Michaels blatantly lying about his knowledge of it. Here, I'm not picking who I think will win but who I want to win and that is the man who's deserved a push for longest. I of course mean Edge. He's one of the most gifted talents on RAW(Batista and Orton aside) and I feel this year he'll get his title. But here, I expect he'll stomp over HBK.

Winner and soon to be new RAW Champ - Edge

They never gave Orton a chance with the belt and I would much rather see Batista vs. Orton at Mania than HHH vs. Batista.

sniktawt

01-29-2005, 08:33 PM

I didn't know if they ever officially signed big Vis or not since he isn't on the WWE website under current Raw superstars.

Actually sometimes they don't have all the guys on that page ,Simon Dean still isn't there yet either.

sniktawt

01-29-2005, 08:42 PM

I would rather have seen Tajiri in it rather than Viscera. I didn't know if they ever officially signed big Vis or not since he isn't on the WWE website under current Raw superstars. What a waste of money he is. Hey, Snik I'm curious as to what you think about William Regal? I would absolutely love to see Shelton Benjamin lose his Intercontinental title and then have Regal feud with whomever wins it from Benjamin and eventually let Regal have the title. I think that Regal is one of the best wrestlers in the world today. He can pull off alot of different moves and even high flying ones if he has to. He is probably my favorite wrestler on Raw right now, I just wish that they would use him in the ring more often.

I think Regal is better as a Non Wrestler Altho I like his work but he's great on the mic and is awesome with the facial expressions.
He gets better exposure as a Personality than a wrestler , sadly.

remember when he was Commissioner , he was Awesome in that role.

jbailey84

01-29-2005, 11:15 PM

onelegasy

01-30-2005, 02:13 AM

If Brock returns, the fans are going to ride him anywhere and everywhere goes.

ZombieMan

01-30-2005, 10:13 AM

Actually sometimes they don't have all the guys on that page ,Simon Dean still isn't there yet either.

Good point, lol. I didn't even notice that.

LS2002

01-30-2005, 11:24 AM

I think it will be Brock Lesnar as well. Look at the facts first of all he wants to come back 2nd of all the Big Show did a F5 recently was that a clue? Who knows I guess we will find out tonight

LS2002

01-30-2005, 11:29 AM

Also I like the Idea of Cena vs Angle rather thn JBL vs Cena!

chewie

01-30-2005, 12:54 PM

I don't think Lesner will come back tonight.

Predictions

World Heavyweight Championship Match
- TRIPLE H (c) vs. Randy Orton.

WWE Championship - Triple Threat Match
- jbl (c) vs. KURT ANGLE vs. Big Show.

Casket Match
- THE UNDERTAKER vs. Heidenreich.

- Shawn Michaels vs. EDGE.

Royal Rumble Match
15 RAW superstars & 15 SmackDown superstars

JOHN CENA

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 07:35 PM

i think the entre might be the ROCK!!!! cause there in fresno

ZombieMan

01-30-2005, 07:49 PM

Here are my predictions...

World Heavyweight Championship Match
Triple H (c) vs. Randy Orton
Winner: Triple H

WWE Championship - Triple Threat Match
JBL (c) vs. Kurt Angle vs. Big Show
Winner: Kurt Angle

Casket Match
The Undertaker vs. Heidenreich
Winner: The Undertaker

Grudge Match
Shawn Michaels vs. Edge
Winner: Shawn Michaels

Royal Rumble Match
15 RAW superstars & 15 SmackDown superstars
Winner: John Cena

I still think that its a good possibility that we will see Brock Lesnar return tonight in the Rumble. I've seen alot of shocking returns in the Rumble before and that would be big I think.

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 08:15 PM

Well Im Watching It Right Now
So Well Find Out I'll Post Winners As It Happens

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 08:20 PM

edge beats micheals he used the ropes

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 08:46 PM

UNDERTAKER defeated Heidenreich

Gene Snitsky and KANE were involved.

I love SNITSKY AND HEIDENREICH !!!

Awesome Team !!

BIG MANIA MATCH SET UP HERE.

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 08:48 PM

the brothers are back *evil grin*

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 08:52 PM

Cena Calling Bischoff Burt Reynolds was hilarious.

"Loved you in Boogie Nights" ...lol

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 09:11 PM

JBL wins again !!!

That Eugene/Regal WM 21 Forrest Gump Parody Promo was hilarious.

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 09:59 PM

well hhh
won

but good match

onelegasy

01-30-2005, 10:33 PM

HHH won? OMG

I am so shocked!

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 10:57 PM

Ok , How come the Rumble was restarted when Both Guys went over ???????? ,
In 1994 , BRET and LUGER did that nearly same ending too and the match was not restarted , The ending to this one sucked.
Good Rumble match tho til that lackluster ending.

I guess it was to make Cena # 1 Contender for Smackdown at WM.

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 10:57 PM

dso ****ing stupid

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 11:05 PM

There will be 15 Superstars from RAW and 15 from SmackDown! Here are the participants:

Batista, Booker T, Charlie Haas, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Christian, Dan Puder, Eddie Guerrero, Edge, Gene Snitsky, Hardcore Holly, Jonathan Coachman, John Cena, Kane, Kenzo Suzuki, Luther Reigns, Mark Jindrak, Muhammad Hassan, Orlando Jordan, Paul London, Rene Dupree, Rey Mysterio, Ric Flair, Scotty 2 Hotty, Shawn Michaels, Shelton Benjamin, Simon Dean, The Hurricane, Viscera

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 11:08 PM

that's only 29 entries ......some one needs to learn to count thats from the website
i agree it was a stupid ending....batistia didn't deserve the win even though i wanted him to win.... I thought maybe ray would pull it off that would have been good to see .......it would have been a surprise......also the match shouldn't have been over.....they're were two men who were not legally elimated.....the could've have replaced them....i aslo thought it was funny when all then men ganged up on muhammned(sp?)

ZombieMan

01-30-2005, 11:11 PM

Well the ending of the Royal Rumble sucked ass. I was upset at how they had Cena and Batista both go over and then Vince came down, and injured his knee when he tried to get into the ring and just sat down against the ropes and looked like a total dumbass, lol. Then they restarted the match and none of the rest made sense, it was awful! Other than that, I was bored with the JBL, Angle, and Big Show match. I was also bored with the Triple H vs. Orton match. However, I was very impressed with Shawn Michaels vs. Edge, and also Heidenreich vs. The Undertaker. I enjoyed seeing The Undertaker do some classic wrestling moves, which totally caught me off guard! All in all, it wasn't too bad of a pay-per-view. The Rumble was exciting until the end and what happend to the "secret" contestant? LOL, oh and lots of shooting on the new guy Pruder. He got chop shots from hell, I felt bad for him, but I guess thats his initiation. But it kind of went overboard if you ask me. I've seen alot of initiations but nothing that went that far.

ZombieMan

01-30-2005, 11:13 PM

Vince McMahon ran to the ring and he slipped when he entered the ring and appeared to hurt his ankle. He stayed on the mat with his hands on his hips.

Yeah and I laughed my ass off. You could see the pain in his eye's as he just kind of sat there. :lol: How embarassing!

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 11:14 PM

FULL RESULTS FROM PRO WRESTLING TORCH (http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_11734.shtml)

WWE ROYAL RUMBLE PPV REPORT
JANUARY 30, 2005
FRESNO, CALIF.

HEAT- MAVEN DEFEATED RHYNO

1 -- SHAWN MICHAELS vs. EDGE

WINNER: Edge at 18:29.

STAR RATING: ***1/4 -- Good opening match. It didn't steal the show, but it wasn't designed to, either.

2 -- UNDERTAKER vs. HEIDENREICH

WINNER: Undertaker at 13:04.

STAR RATING: 1/4* -- Whatever value it had at certain points was ruined with some really sloppy spots, bad pacing, and really poorly executed moves.

3 -- JBL vs. BIG SHOW vs. KURT ANGLE -- WWE Hvt. Title match

WINNER: JBL at 11:59.

STAR RATING: *** -- Good match. They didn't go overly long with it, and therefore it didn't have any slow spots. The gimmick of JBL ending up retaining the title undeservedly continues, something Cole sold big time. Well-constructed and executed.

4 -- TRIPLE H vs. RANDY ORTON - World Hvt. Title match

They opened up with high-energy, going right at each other, with Hunter scoring a near fall early with a backslide. Orton came back with a backdrop and early RKO attempt. Hunter slipped out of it and bailed out to ringside. Orton followed and threw him back into the ring. Orton hit Hunter with a dropkick. The crowd seemed to be aganst Orton early as there were scattered boos for his covered and no cheers. At 2:00 Orton went for another RKO, but Hunter threw Orton over the top rope to the floor as a counter. Hunter took control, choking Orton. Hunter then clipped Orton's leg from behind at 4:45. At 7:00 Hunter applied a figure-four. At 9:00 Orton forced a reversal. Hunter grabbed the bottom rope to force a break. Orton and Hunter got into a slugfest at 11:00. Orton hit a neckbreaker for a two count. He scored two more two counts in the next minute. Hunter slowed Orton with a reverse atomic drop. Orton threw Hunter off the top rope and then nailed Hunter with a top rope crossbody for a near fall. To his credit, Ross screamed, "Will it be!" rather than the usual "He's got him! It's over!" Hunter caught Orton with a face-buster kneelift. He then set up a Pedigree, but Orton escaped and catapulted Hunter into the top turnbuckle. Hunter then blocked an RKO attempt then hit Orton with a Harley Race Knee and scored a two count. They went to a close-up of Orton's bleeding lower lip. Hunter set up another Pedigree, but Orton countered with a clothesline for a very near fall that the crowd was into. Orton punched and kicked away at Hunter. Hunter was out on his feet, leaning against Orton. Hunter held onto the ropes to avoid a DDT, and Orton went down on the mat without Hunter landing hard. At 18:00 the ref got crushed when Hunter charged into Orton in the corner. Hunter kicked Orton to ringside. Hunter grabbed his sledgehammer from ringside. He approached Orton slowly, giving Orton time to recover and yank Hunter face-first into the ringpost. Hunter clutched his nose. Back in the ring, as Orton reached for the sledge hammer, Hunter came out of nowhere with a vicious clothesline. Hunter then lifted the sledgehammer, but when he saw the ref coming to, Hunter threw the hammer to ringside and set up a Pedigree instead. He executed his finisher, then covered Orton for the win.

WINNER: Hunter at 21:27.

STAR RATING: ***1/2 -- Very good match, but it felt like it was in first and second gear a little too much without enough energetic kicks into high-gear. It felt like a match where the wrestlers knew they didn't have to carry the show, and thus they kept it a notch below the show-stealing level. It was a clean win considering Hunter didn't use the sledgehammer at any time.

-As Long and Bischoff chatted backstage, JBL and his crew walked into the room celebrating the title win, pouring champaigne all over. JBL was in Long's face, yelling, "Holla holla holla!" Long said he wanted to let JBL know what he had planned for the next World Title defense. JBL said he was still celebrating and had an escort service to call tonight. Funny. Long said he was giving the man he didn't pin tonight a title shot. He said, "I'm gonna eat Big Show like he's gonna eat a pizza. I'm a wrestling god!" Long said there would be no outside interference at No Way Out because for the first time in the history of WWE, the match would be a barbed wire steel cage match. JBL's drunken celebration turned into a wake. Great performance from JBL.

-Tazz and Cole stammered about Long's announcement. Cole then said Tazz would be representing Smackdown while Ross would take over his chair representing Raw. Cole had said publicly that he hoped he and Tazz would get to call the Rumble this year since Ross did last year.

-Backstage, Nunzio had a Royal Rumble entry number. Angle stole it from him, making him the mystery no. 30 entry. No Brock Lesnar or other surprise, in other words.

5 -- THE ROYAL RUMBLE

---(1) Eddie Guerrero vs. (2) Chris Benoit. The match began at 10:03, 23 minutes later than last year's start time. They did some mat work.

---(3) Daniel Puder walked out, grabbed the house mic, and told everyone they are going to witness history. He said he is going to win the Royal Rumble in his first match. He got in the ring and acted cocky. Paying dues time then began and Benoit and Guerrero took turns slapping away at his chest. He dropped down and they double-suplexed him. Tazz said Puder didn't help his cause by doing mic work before the match. Ross said there is a time to talk and a time to fight.

---(4) Hardcore Holly. Perfect. Dues paying time continues. Ross said, "He hates rookies." Holly asked Benoit and Guerrero to back down and let him get at Puder. The crowd began cheering and standing. Holly nailed Puder with three very hard chops. Puder sold it like he was shot. Benoit chopped him. Ross said Puder was getting initiated "in the stiffest and most intense of ways." Benoit held him as Holly chopped him again. Benoit threw another chop. Guerrero threw another chop. Puder dropped down and screamed in pain. Holly then held Puder throat first over the top rope and then kicked him between the legs. Holly then gave him an Alabama Slam and threw him over the top rope at 6:03. (***ELIMINATION #1***)

---(5) Hurricane. As Hurricane came out, Benoit and Guerrero eliminated Holly at 6:08 (***ELIMINATION #2***). His job was done. Benoit and Guerrero took Hurricane down with double-teaming, then Guerrero tried to sneak in an elimination on Benoit. Benoit fought back. Guerrero backdropped Hurricane at 7:25 (***ELIMINATION #3***)

---(6) Kenzo Suzuki. Benoit went to work on Kenzo, giving everyone a glimpse of what could have been had Kenzo gone to Raw as originally planned last summer and headlined PPVs and house shows against Benoit in World Title matches. Benoit almost snuck in an near elimination on Guerrero.

---(7) Edge ran to the ring. He went right after Guerrero with a spear in the corner. He then knocked Kenzo down and pounded away at Kenzo and Benoit. He went back to Guerrero and tried to toss him over the top rope. Guerrero hugged the bottom rope. Edge went back to Benoit. Benoit turned and began beating him up. Kenzo then hit Benoit from behind.

---(8) Rey Mysterio ran out and went right after Guerrero. Rey took Kenzo over the top rope with a headscissors at 11:28 (***ELIMINATION #4***). Guerrero gave Benoit a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker.

---(9) Shelton Benjamin ran to the ring and went right after Edge. As Guerrero attempted to eliminate Rey, Guerrero tried to eliminate Benoit. Meanwhile, Shelton tried to eliminate Edge. Rey nailed Benjamin from behind with a chop block. Rey took Benjamin down with a swinging head scissors.

---(10) Booker T came out next. Eric Bischoff came to ringside as everyone continued to fight. Long came out and stood on the other side of the ring.

---(11) Chris Jericho charged to the ring at full speed. Ross said he knows what it's like to headline WrestleMania.

---(12) Luther Reigns walked out next. Ross said if he won, it would "shock the world." He said his street background might help him in this type of match. The Raw and Smackdown wrestlers took sides, squaring off four-on-four with Benoit & Edge & Jericho & Benjamin vs. Rey & Booker & Reigns & Guerrero.

---(13) Mohammad Hassan (w/Khosrow Daivari) walked out. As he slowly walked to the ring, the crowd chanted "USA, USA." He bowed in the ring and prayed toward the sky. Everyone surrounded him. Jericho took the first shot. Then the other seven wrestlers joined in, stomping away at him. Rey gave him a 619 as set up by Jericho. Then threw him out at 20:10 (***ELIMINATION #5***)

---(14) Orlando Jordan walked out with a big smile on his face. More random fighting with the nine left in the ring.

---(15) Scotty 2 Hotty came out, and Hassan and Daivari attacked him in the aisle. Are they turning babyface or something? Hassan applied a Camel Clutch briefly before returning to the back.

---(16) Charlie Haas ran out and went right after Benoit and Jericho. Booker kicked him to the mat, then kicked Jordan. Reigns jumped in, but Booker kicked him too. Booker clotheslined Reigns out of the ring at 24:20 (***ELIMINATION #6***) and Jordan (***ELIMINATION #7***). Booker then did the Spinarooni to celebrate, but that left him open to being dropkicked by Rey into the ropes and Guerrero lowered the top rope, so Booker fell to the floor (***ELIMINATION #8***).

---(17) Rene Dupree. Benjamin and Haas double-teamed Dupree, reuniting their team briefly. Shelton jumped to the top rope to set up a cross bodyblock, but Edge shoved him off the rope to the floor at 27:04 (***ELIMINATION #9***)

---(18) Simon Dean walked out, but stopped at ringside and began warm-up exercises. Ross called him an idiot because he had all afternoon and evening to warm up. Edge then eliminated Guerrero at 28:15 (***ELIMINATION #10).

---(19) Shawn Michaels ran out and eliminated Simon as soon as he finally entered the ring at 29:10 (***ELIMINATION #11***). Michaels backdropped Haas at 30:15 (***ELIMINATION #12***).

---(20) Kurt Angle came out and immediately began suplexing everyone - Bennoit, Rey, Jericho, Edge, and Dupree. When he attempted to suplex Michaels, Michaels blocked it. Angle went for an Anklelock, but Michaels escaped and superkicked Angle out of the ring at 31:15 (***ELIMINATION #13***).

---(21) Coach strutted out.

---(22) Mark Jindrak. Angle snuck back nto the ring and eliminated Michaels over the top rope. Angle then bashedm Michaels in the head with the ring stairs. Michaels bladed. Angle punched away at him, then applied an Anklelock. Officials ran out to peel Angle away from Michaels. Angle got in one last stomp.

---(23) Viscera.

---(24) Paul London. After Dupree beat on London, he did his dance. Jericho eliminated him. (***ELIMINATION #15***).

---(25) John Cena. He tore off his shift, but Viscera grabbed him and bashed him with forearms. Cena backdropped Viscera at 39:00 (***ELIMINATION #16***). Cena and Benoit squared off in the corner.

---(26) Gene Snitsky. Long punched at Snitsky, then jumped onto his back and applied a sleeper. Snitsky tossed him over the top rope, but London stayed on the apron and elbowed Snitsky's head. Snitsky gave him a clothesline. London took a flip face-first bump onto the floor to be eliminated at 40:20. Bump of the night. (***ELIMINATION #17***). Snitsky then gave Cena a big boot.

---(27) Kane came out and began chokeslamming everyone including Cena, Jericho, and even Mysterio. London was shown being helped onto a stretcher. Kane tossed Jindrak at 42:05 (***ELIMINATION #18***). Snitsky went after Kane, giving him a pump handle slam.

---(28) Batista came out to a hhuge pop. Batista quickly eliminated Snitsky at 43:10 (***ELIMINATION #20***). Batista and Kane then battled. The crowd chanted "Ba-ti-sta." Batista gave Kane his sitout powerbomb. Jericho dove inot Batista's arms. Batista lifted and dropped him over the top rope at 43:50 (***ELIMINATION #21***). Batista then went after Edge in the corner.

---(29) Christian (w/Tyson Tomko). Rey gave Kane a 619 and then Cena eliminated Kane at 45:13 (***ELIMINATION #22***). Cena and Rey had a discussion about working together. They went over to Coach and stomped at him in the corner.

---(30) Ric Flair walekd out in a gold robe. Ross mentioned that he won the Rumble in 1992 in sixty minutes. Batista gave Coach a spinebuster. Flair then tossed Coach (***ELIMINATION #23***) Batista then gave Christian a spinebuster. Batista tossed Christian over the top rope onto Tomko at ringside at 46:55 (***ELIMINATION #24***). That left Flair, Benoit, Batista, Edge, Mysterio, and Cena. Batista gave Benoit a spinebuster. Flair then tossed Benoit at 47:30 (***ELIMINATION #25***). Flair took a cheap shot at Batista, but then denied he intended to. Rey and Edge then dropkicked Batista. Flair went after Edge, but Edge speared Flair. Edge then tossed Flair at 48:00 (***ELIMINATION #26***). Final Four were Edge, Mysterio, Batista, and Cena. Edge speared Batista, then Cena. Rey then gave Edge a 619. Edge rossed Rey over the top rope, but Rey held onto the apron. Edge then speared Rey off the apron at 49:21 (***ELIMINATION #27***). Edge went after Cena and Batista, but got backdropped by both att 49:42 (***ELIMINATION #28***). That left Cena and Batista for a staredown. Ross said his pick was Batista. They exchanged punches in mid-ring. Cena went for a quick FU, but instead walked to the ropes. batista held onto the top rope and wouldn't go over. Batista fought out of Cena's grip and threw some knees, then set up a Batistabomb. Cena walked toward the top rope and both tumbled over the top rope and landed on the floor at the same time. Two referees from each brand declared their guy the winner. Two Raw referees held up Batista's arm. Two Smackdown refs held up Cena's arms. Vince McMahon ran to the ring and he slipped when he entered the ring and appeared to hurt his ankle. He stayed on the mat with his hands on his hips. Baitsta then tosseed Cena over the top rope. Cena returned and threw Batista over the top rope. Howard Finkle said Vince declared that the match be restarted. At 53:30 they continued. Batista blocked an FU, hit a Batista Bomb, and eliminated Cena at 53:55. (***ELIMINATION #29***)

WINNER: Batista at 54:19.

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 11:16 PM

that's only 29 entries ......some one needs to learn to count thats from the website

They never listed Nunzio , who then gave it to Angle , they teased a "Mystery Guy" but then didn't do anything with it.
It was to get fans talking about Brock coming in , I guess.

ZombieMan

01-30-2005, 11:16 PM

hopefully raw will be good tomorrow

I really doubt it, but you never know! :P

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 11:17 PM

Yeah and I laughed my ass off. You could see the pain in his eye's as he just kind of sat there. :lol: How embarassing!

lol

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 11:18 PM

Oh and What I found so funny was they stareted off at every two minutes but knew it would go over so they slowly brought them in at 1:30 for half and for the rest it was barely a minute.

ilovecandace

01-30-2005, 11:20 PM

the wwe sucks ...make me not want to watch anymore....payed 34 bucks for that stupid a$$ show? dam what was i thinking but anyways...hopefully raw will be good tomorrow

FVD

01-30-2005, 11:22 PM

Great review Snik.

It was the first time a WWE PPV has ever aired live in NZ and JR and Michael Cole even mentioned it. I was happy to hear that.

I'm glad Batista won. It was likely that he was the odds on favourite to win the Rumble. Watch out HHH.

So I wonder what's to become of Angle and HBK. Will they have a match at Wrestlemania as well. It could be possible unless of the superstars changes brands.

WM21 also seems likely to have a tag team match of Undertaker and Kane vs Heidenreich and Snitsky. It's gonna happen I'm certain of it.

I laughed when Flair failed to throw Batista out the ring. Check out his reaction. I was hoping Batista was gonna eliminate Flair himself.

Mohammad Hassan is annoying but Daivari is even worse. He's at the top of my most hated list at the moment. I'd mute it if only but can't while you still want to listen to the announcers play by play of the match.

Overall great PPV. The first of many live events to come.

FVD.

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 11:27 PM

also the match shouldn't have been over.....they're were two men who were not legally elimated

That happens a lot in Rumbles , Last year I believe Spike wasn't officially eliminated , and once it happened with Savage I believe when he was feuding with Crush.

And Austin Illegally eliminated Bret in 97 after he was tossed out yet it counted.

Colorado Cajun

01-30-2005, 11:40 PM

I'm really happy that Batista was given the victory. Now his feud with HHH should be golden

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 11:50 PM

I'm really happy that Batista was given the victory. Now his feud with HHH should be golden

Yeah , they took their time with this , Batista is growing on me , they gave him time to get over before giving him this mega push , He'll win the title at Wrestlemania.

Colorado Cajun

01-30-2005, 11:52 PM

yeah he really should and then go against Edge and maybe Y2J

sniktawt

01-30-2005, 11:56 PM

Great review Snik.

Actually I just took it from Pro Wrestling Torch.

I did see the event tho.

I usually put up recaps but couldn't be bothered tonight , I did a few tho.

jbailey84

01-30-2005, 11:57 PM

well my picks werent that bad, 4-1. i was actually looking forward to seeing Lesnar return

FVD

01-31-2005, 05:01 AM

Actually I just took it from Pro Wrestling Torch

I noticed that after I posted. Oh well :D

How about that clothesline on Paul London when he got eliminated by Snitsky. That looked cool despite London being escorted out of the arena on a stretcher.

I'm just watching the replay now. I'm happy that Batista is getting a decent push now. I've always found him to far meaner than Lesnar. Lesnar may have power but Batista to me looks far more intimidating.

Other highlights I can recall:

Eddie Guerrero stealing Ric Flair's number and his wallet when they picked their balls for the Rumble order.

Christian the CLB trying to outrap Cena. What did Cena call Tomko again? Anybody remember?

FVD.

onelegasy

01-31-2005, 10:53 AM

They botched the ending. Rather Batista screwed up and landed first.

HHH won...

Jbl won...

Batista won...

Was anyone suprised?

carnage4u

01-31-2005, 11:31 AM

I really enjoyed the Royal Rumble.

every match was fun,. OPening match with HBK... not use to him beign a curtain jerker, but good match, and well worth it.. UT actaully winning a casket match at the rumble.. Shocking :)

triple HHH winnning.. oh well, but i prefer him over randy.. Dont see as many good fudes with him.

The actual Rumble was fun.. The 6 people at our place watching were having a good time the entire match, and id rather see the end restart then a few weeks of BS stuff to cover for it.

Overall best Rumble iv seen in years.

ZombieMan

01-31-2005, 12:56 PM

How about that clothesline on Paul London when he got eliminated by Snitsky. That looked cool despite London being escorted out of the arena on a stretcher.

Christian the CLB trying to outrap Cena. What did Cena call Tomko again? Anybody remember?

I forgot about that clothesline that Snitsky delivered to Paul London but it was awsome! I don't think that London was really hurt though, they threw him on the stretcher pretty much, rather then easing him onto it. About John Cena calling Tomko names, the only one that I can remember was that he called him blackbeard.

carnage4u

01-31-2005, 01:06 PM

Yeah,, that clotheline was great.. 6 holy craps were uttered at our place at once.. great fun :)

Colorado Cajun

01-31-2005, 02:36 PM

alright since I'm bored I figure I'll toss these out here

Wrestlemania matches

World Title match
Batista(champion) vs Edge

HHH vs Orton 60 minute Iron Man match

Kane vs Matt Hardy TLC Inferno match

Cena vs Lesnar

IC Title Match best of three
Shelton vs Benoit (heel)

ZombieMan

01-31-2005, 02:57 PM

^^^ Are those predictions, or a dream match sort of thing?

Colorado Cajun

01-31-2005, 02:59 PM

basically what I'd like to see that could happen if the WWE has any clue lol

onelegasy

01-31-2005, 04:42 PM

Matt Hardy??

DangerMouse

02-01-2005, 10:26 AM

ZombieMan

02-01-2005, 10:42 AM

Actually I have no idea what happend there. I wasn't ever affiliated with WCW and don't really know anything like that. I haven't heard any stories floating around about that ordeal.

onelegasy

02-01-2005, 11:04 AM

Dig boy Dig!

ZombieMan

02-01-2005, 11:21 AM

Dig boy Dig!

??? WTF??? :confused:

DangerMouse

02-01-2005, 11:41 AM

If I remember correctly, Hogan insisted on winning the title again. So Russo let him win it, then berated him on national TV about it because Hogan was unwilling to help push younger wrestlers. Then he scheduled the Jarret/Booker T match for the heavy weight title which Booker T won.

I was just woindering if you had ever heard about what really was going on from maybe a co-worker or someone who used to be affiliated with WCW.

Daywalker

02-01-2005, 12:19 PM

RR was a frikkin disaster!

ZombieMan

02-01-2005, 02:11 PM

DangerMouse

02-01-2005, 02:25 PM

I know lots of people who use to be affiliated with WCW. I guess I could ask around and see if they know, if I find anything out, then I'll update you.

Cool. Thanks for all the insight btw!!

ChaCho

02-01-2005, 09:50 PM

long time since i posted here.
Batista won the Rumble that was really good, i saw him or Benoit or Jericho winning it.
Undertaker no doubt he was gonna win, even though when snitsky came out wow, i thought he was gonna loose and when they were gonna put him in the basket wow, i screamed at how mad i was, then when i saw Kane wow again lol. I think i never been happier when seeing him, Undertaker's toombstone was beautiful, I love the Undertaker.
HHH winning, no surprise, same thing happened last year with HBK in the Last Man Standing Match. They wont make HHH loose the title right before Wrestlemania.
Big Show got screwed again, man I hate JBL!!! he can die and i wont care, That was Big Shows night. And also Kurt Angle eliminating HBK, i see this a feud like last year. Between Goldberg and Brock Lesnar, jajaja man this is gonna be good.
When Rey got that far, i thought it was crazy i thought he was gonna win i dunno why.
Gald that ****in Puder was the first eliminated, show off big mouth.
Royal Rumble was great.
Batista wont go to Smackdown! would love to see him there but he will stay at RAW and beat up HHH, i just know. Undertaker will fight BIg Show at Wrestlemania for the WWE Championship, prediction.

Halofan1

02-01-2005, 11:11 PM

Yeah,, that clotheline was great.. 6 holy craps were uttered at our place at once.. great fun :)

My place went absolutley nuts once they beat the **** out of Hassan. Seriously the DVD is worth owning for that moment.

onelegasy

02-02-2005, 09:59 AM

I miss good wrestling.

ZombieMan

02-02-2005, 11:33 AM

^^^ What do you consider good wrestling? What wrestlers, time period, or fed?

onelegasy

02-02-2005, 12:17 PM

Most of the ECW years, and the 98-2002 era of wwe.

When the company wasn't totally focused on women and big guys

ChaCho

02-02-2005, 03:41 PM

That was a good time, when stars actually wrestled, like The Rock, Mick Foley.
But wrestling right now is really good, a lot of new talents out to make it big. WWE is great!~!

ZombieMan

02-02-2005, 04:17 PM

the 98-2002 era of wwe.

When the company wasn't totally focused on women and big guys

I couldn't agree more. That was the best wrestling time period for me as well. It has went way down hill since 2003 it seems like.

FVD

02-02-2005, 08:51 PM

Yeah since McMahon acquired WCW. It's sad what the legacy of WCW has become not to mention ECW. At least TNA is trying to get up there. I just think Jarrett should stop making himself champion all the time. That guy has zero charisma.

FVD.

ZombieMan

02-02-2005, 09:37 PM

I agree about Jarrett trying to make himself the champion all the time. Its ruining TNA, and thats one reason that I don't really watch it anymore. Despite that fact that I work for NWA as a whole, I am running out of interest in the TNA branch.

onelegasy

02-03-2005, 09:12 AM

Jarrett is still the champ there?

DangerMouse

02-03-2005, 11:19 AM

Jarrett is still the champ there?

Perpetually.

When I first checked out TNA a few years ago, Jarrett was Champion. I've been checking it out on and off for the last few months, and guess what...Jarrett's STILL champion.

Considering he worked in WCW during the downfall, you think he would've learned something.

Then again, I think he owns TNA so there you go.

Yeah, the Jarrett gimmick is tired. I might as well watch WWE as TNA is basically WWE light.

Jarrett champion = HHH champion.

Neither one is going to relinquish the belt for an extended period of time any time soon. And I doubt they could even go 2-3 pay-per-views without having to have the belt back.

TNA perked my interest until I noticed Jarrett never gives up the belt.

Why watch it.

ZombieMan

02-03-2005, 11:34 AM

^^^ Everything that DangerMouse said was soooo right. Especially the Jarrett champion = HHH champion. Its the same way with WWE too, and thats what makes its main events so boring usually.

ZombieMan

02-03-2005, 11:39 AM

Yes, Jerry Jarrett is the half owner and booker with his son Jeff. They both make the big decisions with the company. I personally like Jeff Jarrett as a wrestler, I have always thought that he was pretty good in the ring.

onelegasy

02-03-2005, 11:41 AM

Jerry Jarrett is the owner/booker though right?

I've never been a fan of Jeff Jarrett ever since he showed up in WWE with goofy hat and glasses.

Everything about him sucked.

ChaCho

02-03-2005, 04:03 PM

Jarret sucks... well not really, he has his style and moves but nah... he has never impressed me.

onelegasy

02-04-2005, 11:44 AM

UPN CANCELS ENTERPRISE; WILL SMACKDOWN BE NEXT?
By: 1Wrestling.com
2/3/2005 1:28:07 PM

UPN has announced the cancellation of one of their most popular shows. Star Trek: Enterprise will air it's last original episode on May 13, marking the end of an 18 year run for Star Trek programming on network and syndicated television.

The move to cancel a popular show such as Enterprise can't be encouraging news to WWE executives. UPN's Les Moonves threw Smackdown's future into uncertain status with comments two weeks ago indicating that he had concerns over whether the WWE program was a good fit for his network.

WWE is in the midst of contract renewal discussions with Spike TV and the future of RAW is also up in the air.

If I was Vince McMahon, I would be very concerned.

DangerMouse

02-04-2005, 12:07 PM

Sounds like Vince better get serious about that 24 hour wrestling channel idea he's been toying with.

Or put out a better product.

Remember when titles actually changed hands on regular programming instead of being saved strictly for pay-per views?

Hogan vs. Goldberg

and

Mankind vs. The Rock (I think)

was the last time I can remember a new World/Heavyweight Championship belt changing hands on prime time, over the air, FREE Television.

I know...novel concept. Not making people pay $50.00 to see HHH retain his belt may be a bit to radical of an idea. :rolleyes:

onelegasy

02-04-2005, 12:23 PM

Vince doesnt have what it takes to keep wrestling afloat.

glsspder

02-04-2005, 01:47 PM

What is the news on Sting? he still wrestling? Last i heard he was on TNA but have not heard anything since.

ChaCho

02-04-2005, 09:46 PM

Itll take some crazy planning to keep Smackdown! and RAW up in this problem.
Itll be good to make wrestling how it was, itll really make a difference for the show.
probably for the best of the business. Imagine a normal match.
HBK vs HHH for the World Title in a normal RAW. Is not only free but gives the show way more raitings, even if HHH won.

Se7en the movie

02-05-2005, 02:41 PM

Do we really need to see HHH vs. HBK AGAIN?! I mean their Hell In a Cell match was almost exactly like their unsactioned match at summerslam, except not as good. Lets try shaking it up a little and give HHH and HBK some different opponents.

ChaCho

02-05-2005, 07:36 PM

That was an example, yeah they should have different opponents.
but be honest, when HHH and HBK fight its a really good match, i enjoy them a lot

slinger

02-05-2005, 08:45 PM

ChaCho

02-06-2005, 01:34 PM

you sure it was on Smackdown! and not on Raw

chewie

02-06-2005, 04:19 PM

9/2/02
RAW
Bischoff gave the World Title to HHH.

The Rock defeated Jericho in '01 to win the title.

10/8/01
RAW
Austin defeated Angle to win the WWE championship

It has been going on 4 years since anybody has lost a heavyweight championship in a match on TV. That is way too long. So if the trend continues, every heavyweight title match on RAW and Smackdown will always have the champion winning or never losing the belt to anybody.

ChaCho

02-06-2005, 07:20 PM

Wow, 4 years.
This is crazy, we should email all this messages to Vince
jajajaja
He'll probably learn something from the best board in comingsoon.net

spiderman_2k

02-06-2005, 08:40 PM

There have been rumblings of another WWE diva appearing nude in Playboy. We've heard plenty of names ... Victoria, Molly Holly and Lita among them.

Truth is just one WWE diva will appear ... in the April issue ... Christie Hemme, according to a WWE insider. The RAW Diva Search winner and former Juggy on The Man Show, Hemme stands 5-foot-5, with 34C-25-35 measurements. The Playboy issue will be on newsstands early in March.

http://nodq.com/news/109710048.shtml

Guess all that talk about a full on Diva issue was just crap, but this should be good.

FVD

02-06-2005, 10:34 PM

Christy Hemme. WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I'd pay to see her. Wow.

Still waiting for Trish to pose though. She's at the top of my list.

FVD.

ChaCho

02-06-2005, 10:44 PM

Christy?
I heard it was Dawn Marie that was gonna be posing
for the playboy.
Whichever is good.

ZombieMan

02-06-2005, 10:59 PM

Yeah, there was a rumor of all of the diva's posing. Too bad that it was false, lol. Anyhow, Christy should make a pretty good playmate.

ilovecandace

02-07-2005, 12:04 AM

I WANT LITA AND MORGAN WEBb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

onelegasy

02-07-2005, 11:29 AM

The women should be separate from wrestling.

What a waste of time.

ChaCho

02-07-2005, 04:02 PM

What?
is pretty good to see women wrestle, especially when they hot wrestle ;)
jajajajajajajaja.
Trish should pose for Playboy, can you imagine how much they'll sell.

sandman441

02-07-2005, 04:36 PM

They had a house show here last night it was a pretty good show and I have to say I would do Lillian garcia proper she was smoking hot. I forgot my camera I was gonna bring it but forgot it which I feel bad for because I could have had a few good pictures.

ok First Eric Bischoff comes out he got cheered until he got into the ring then he got booed. Our arena was built in early 1980 and the sound sucks for everything. they had 4 speakers above the ring and it was hard to hear even the music. Anyway the only thing I heard him say was while he was getting booed he said you will learn to love me.

Shelton Benjamin vs. Edge for the WWE Intercontinental Title

this was the first match it was pretty good nothing spectacular Edge did grab Benjamin by the back of the head and Benjamin popped back up it was pretty cool looking. Shelton Benjamin won with the T-bone suplex. Edge got booed after he got into the ring for some reason that happened for pretty much all the heel wrestlers except one.

Eddie Guerrero & Rey Mysterio vs. Basham Brothers

I believe this was the second match it was allright eddie and rey came out in a lowrider truck rey was in the back and eddie was doind the hydrolaucs while rey was in the back it was pretty funny. Eddie and Rey got a big pop during the whole match. The Bashams got an ok pop until they got into the ring then they got booed. Bashams retained their belts. After the match was over Rey did a double 619 and I think he hurt his knee he was limping while walking back. The double 619 was pretty cool looking. Eddie got on the mic after the match said some things and left

Trish Stratus vs. Victoria for the WWE Women's Title

I think it was the third match it could have been the second. Victoria comes out and she gets a pretty good pop in the ring she starts taking clothes off but unluckily for everybody in the arena she had her wrestling gear on under neath. Trish came out she got a good pop until she got into the ring then she got booed a little but she came to the ring with a neck brace the match kind of sucked the ending came after trish took off her neck brace and I think hit victoria with it and knocked her out.

the coach came out and interviewed Maven I think this was set up during the last second because Batista was supposed to be in the main event and he wasn't. So the coach brings out Maven he was probably the only person to get booed while coming to the ring. So Maven bad mouths Batista after a few minutes Batista comes out to a big pop. throws the coach out of the ring and powerbombs Maven I think Maven bounced a good foot off the mat on the way back to the locker room a chant of you suck was shouted at maven while he was struggling to go back to the locker rooms.

Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair

This was a good match both got huge pops the audience was kind of flat because we were cheering for both Flair tried to get heat (didn't exactly hear what he said) He got booed a little bit and got cheered again flair got air three times and did his flop atleast 3 times. Towards the end of the match shawn was trying to do a sunset flip on him he tried for about 10 seconds and seeing he couldn't do it he pulled down flairs trunks flair ran around with his ass hanging out he also dragging shawn around the ring because shawn had a hold of his tights. Shawn won it was cool because I am not sure on any arena except the one here but most of the arena has aluminum flooring and underneath the chairs is nothing anyway shawn was getting ready for the superkick and everybody else was banging their feet on the aluminum it sounded like thunder I could feel my chair move it was pretty cool. Flair and Michaels were slapping each other in the chest and Shawn's slaps sounded louder than flairs. Shawn was pretty cool he went around all the rails shaking peoples hands and stuff it took him a good 10-15 minutes to go in the locker room.

John Bradshaw Layfield & Orlando Jordan vs.The Big Show in a Handicap Match

I believe this was the next match. Nothing special Big show got a big pop and layfield and jordan got a small pop until they got into the ring then got booed JBL and jordan came to the ring in a limo. Match was allright nothing special except Joy who wore a mini mini skirt it was just long enough to cover her ass. Ending came with Jordan receiving a choke slam. While JBL was walking around the ring before the match started I don't know if it was a plant but some guy tried to fight JBL security had to restrain the guy and he got thrown out.

Intermission was kind of cool before christy and the other diva came out some guy jumped over the railing and got into the ring. Some how he ended up getting a bloody lip or nose and was escorted from the ring/building. Christy and another diva search contestant threw out shirts unfortunately none came my way not even close. I must say Christy is very flexible when she was entering the ring for some reason she stretched her leg over her head and then she bent backwards (think limbo) to get into the ring. I don't remember who else was there she was blonde though. Like I said to hear anything was pretty impossible.

After that Stacey and torrie came in the ring to announce the contestants in the battle royale the only name I heard was Tajiri which was cool. Some of the other entrants

Chris benoit
chris jericho
garrison cade
tajiri
rhyno
Hussan
Rob Conway
Sylvain Grenier
The Hurricane
Tyson Tomko ( I think)
Spike
Akio
Funaki
Big show
charlie Haas ( I think)
Kenzo

I am sure there was more but I didn't hear all the names

This match was fun but total Chaos. Spike dudley stayed on the outside most of the match. Tajiri did the Tarantula but was thrown out trying to let go. The last 3 were Benoit, Jericho, and Big show. Jericho was thrown out by Benoit and Benoit basically dragged big show over the rope. after Tajiri was eliminated a few people were chanting ECW at Tajiri. Big show was the last entrant he came in after the match started and got a big pop. Jericho get a big pop and booed Benoit a little bit after jericho was eliminated. Benoit got a big pop after winning the match big show came back in the ring and shook his hand.

John Cena vs. Kurt Angle for the WWE U.S. Title

this was the next match john cena got a huge pop. Kurt angle did also but people were I guess singing You suck during angles song I had to also that is probably my favorite song just because of that. Anyway this was a pretty decent match angle did the angle slam and put the ankle lock on cena but cena got out of it and won the match after the match cena got on the mic and got a little kid to come to the ring with his sign. No idea what he said or what the sign said the only thing I heard was him saying this is what the chain gang was all about.

Kane & The Undertaker vs. Gene Snitsky & John Heidenreich

snitsky and heidenrich was pretty funny snitsky was announced first was cheered until he got into the ring then booed then heidenrich came in and snitsky told him to come here and they hugged. Then Kane came out I think everybody thought it was the Undertaker because Kane got a big ovation until the crowd saw it was Kane and the pop got smaller and smaller. Then Undertaker came out the lights went out and people lit their lighters and were holding up their lighted cellphones Kane was laughing about it not sure about snitksy and heidenrich because I couldn't see them. The match flat out sucked everytime undertaker got tagged in he got a good pop but this match sucked the best part was the ending kane and undertaker tombstoned snitsky and heidenrich at the same time at the end of the match Kane got on one knee and lifted his hand to undertaker that was pretty cool. The other cool part during the match snitsky and heidenrich were in opposite corners and undertaker did a splash into heidenrich and snitsky two times. Kane and I think Snitsky had a cool moment they both bounced off the rope and did a big boot to each other I heard a snap and thought somebodys jaw was broken.

Triple H vs. Batista vs. Randy Orton for the World Title

This match was changed for some reason it was HHH and Randy Orton in a street fight. Randy came out to a medium pop then HHH came out and he got a huge pop which I thought was weird anyway the match was ok a garbage can lid was used 3 times they went into the crowd once. The stairs were used HHH had some trouble throwing them into the ring he threw them up but not high enough and they came back down luckily he wasn't injured but everybody was laughing at him. HHH got hit with the stairs. I think Orton did the RKO I can't remember no pedigree the ending came when HHH hit Orton with a Metal chair this chair was different from any chair I have seen it was like a stainless steel. After the match Orton laid in the ring like he was hurt really bad it took him a good 15 minutes to get up and out of the ring he also went around the guard rails and shook peoples hands after.

ZombieMan

02-07-2005, 04:44 PM

^^^ Sounds like it was a damn good show!

sandman441

02-07-2005, 08:15 PM

yeah it was pretty good. I haven't been a hardcore wrestling fan for a long time but if every show was similar to this I probably would be again.

sandman441

02-07-2005, 08:43 PM

I remembered one more thing about the kane undertaker vs snitsky and heidenrich. Heidenrich was late leaving he was trying to sneak in the back some people saw him leaving and he got booed pretty good. It was pretty funny he was covering his ears and was leaning over a table.

ilovecandace

02-07-2005, 10:53 PM

i think randy orton needs time off
he looks like hes really rhrt

ZombieMan

02-08-2005, 12:18 AM

^^^ Nahhh, Orton is just fine.

DangerMouse

02-08-2005, 11:03 AM

Was the Y2J/Benoit match supposed to end like that?

Great technical match, but I'm wondering if they messed the ending up because Y2J was actually hurt.

onelegasy

02-08-2005, 11:37 AM

Sounds like I missed a half decent show.

ZombieMan

02-08-2005, 11:48 AM

Was the Y2J/Benoit match supposed to end like that?

Great technical match, but I'm wondering if they messed the ending up because Y2J was actually hurt.

It was suppose to go down like that, I'm pretty sure. It seemed to me like Jericho's injury was a work.

ilovecandace

02-08-2005, 01:21 PM

ah....the hhh edge match was pretty good....just wished for once in his life hhh would losse the belt on raw

onelegasy

02-08-2005, 04:26 PM

ah....the hhh edge match was pretty good....just wished for once in his life hhh would losse the belt on raw

:funny: :lol:

chewie

02-08-2005, 06:03 PM

ah....the hhh edge match was pretty good....just wished for once in his life hhh would losse the belt on raw

That will never happen

FVD

02-08-2005, 08:35 PM

I second that as HHH still has that political stroke just because he's McMahon's son in-law.

FVD.

onelegasy

02-09-2005, 09:53 AM

ZombieMan

02-09-2005, 12:22 PM

Too bad The Rock is doing movies. He would at least drop the belt to whoever needed a push.

Hell, he jobbed to The Hurricane and made it look really good, believable and entertaining.

When was the last time you were entertained by HHH?

Yeah, I thought it was real cool of him to job to The Hurricane actually. I was quite impressed and he carried him through most of the match and did make it look good. The Rock deserves alot for just that! When was the last time that I was entertained by Triple H? Probably when he was a babyface. Thats been quite sometime ago, I think.

onelegasy

02-09-2005, 12:55 PM

And now, the Rock has officially said that he is not coming back to wrestling.

Sigh.

ilovecandace

02-09-2005, 12:56 PM

is the rock ever going to come back........wand what's the news on sting.......and do u think they need to have more fueds between the shows .... like have hhh vs jbl...cena vs orton.... I want to see Kane aND Taker vs heindrich(sp?) and Sniksy

i would.nt mind seeing Batista vs the big show stuff like that

onelegasy

02-09-2005, 01:27 PM

THE ROCK SAYS "I'M DONE" REGARDING WWE!
By: Joey Styles
2/9/2005 10:28:16 AM

The Rock: "My contract is actually up with them (WWE), it was up last year, so I'm done."

WWE is now talking about producing their own movies, but The Rock says his days of donning those tights are in the past. "No. They've been wanted for a long time to get into the movie business and, I'm not too sure, I think like low budget movies, a lot of them straight to video. I think they wanted to and were looking for different distributors. "No, my contract is actually up with them, it was up last year, so I'm done…"

ilovecandace

02-09-2005, 01:30 PM

one word DAMN!!!

ZombieMan

02-09-2005, 01:56 PM

Son of a *****. That hacks me off...

ilovecandace

02-09-2005, 02:04 PM

i say we raid his house or something * starts raid*

onelegasy

02-09-2005, 02:50 PM

HHH should take notes on how to be a good wrestler and not a jack a**

spiderman_2k

02-09-2005, 07:40 PM

Colorado Cajun

02-09-2005, 07:52 PM

I don't blame Rock for wanting to move on and just do films now. He can make a lot more money, see his family far more often, and not have the toll on his body. He'd be insane not to move on

Colorado Cajun

02-09-2005, 08:07 PM

also man I love Christy!

they so need to hook her up with Eugene when he returns to being able to be on tv

ZombieMan

02-09-2005, 09:09 PM

Christy has shot her playboy photos and a preview image has been released, you can probably find it if you hunt around the web, if not I have it and can send it to you (cant post it because theres a bit of nippleage going on)

Yeah, I found that photo earlier when I was reading on a wrestling website. There was some nippleage going on indeed!

ChaCho

02-09-2005, 09:21 PM

THE ROCK WILL FOREVER BE REMEMBERED AS A LEGEND.
HE AINT GONNA LEAVE, NOT NOW THOUGH, WHAT DID STONE COLD SAY AFTER WRESTLEMANIA XX, THAT HIS CONTRACT WAS ALSO UP AND THAT HE WAS NOT COMING BACK TO THE WWE, LOOK AT HIM NOW, HES BACK RAISING HELL IN A NEW MOVIE CONTRACT.
The Rock wont leave, i know he wont, he still has to come and lay the ROCK BOTTOM on that mu'****a Simon Dean. jajaja

ZombieMan

02-09-2005, 09:29 PM

WHAT DID STONE COLD SAY AFTER WRESTLEMANIA XX, THAT HIS CONTRACT WAS ALSO UP AND THAT HE WAS NOT COMING BACK TO THE WWE, LOOK AT HIM NOW, HES BACK RAISING HELL IN A NEW MOVIE CONTRACT.

Exactly, like you said MOVIES. Stone Cold isn't wrestling is he? So technically its not a return in the wrestling world just yet, if he ever does.

Rogue

02-10-2005, 12:50 AM

I'm sad to see the Rock go because ...mmmm. Major droolage. He was SO hot. :D

ZombieMan

02-10-2005, 01:27 AM

Hey ZombieMan-Any "backstory" on what really happened on the Hogan/Jarrett/Russo/Booker T fiaso that happened in WCW during its final year?

I just remember hearing that Hogan won the title from Jarrett, then Russo came out and stripped the belt and scheduled a Jarrett/Booker T match that Booker T won.

It was the last time Hogan was seen on WCW and I had heard Russo did it to publically humiliate Hogan. And not in a "scripted" way.

Know anything on this one that you might've heard through the grapevine over the years?

DangerMouse, I just got the inside scoop from a very reliable wrestling source (can't mention any names). The whole Hogan/Russo thing was not a work, it was for real and Russo did screw Hogan and publicly humiliate him intentionally. Thats just about all I can say.

onelegasy

02-10-2005, 10:09 AM

The Rock is gone, and though he might appear backstage in PPV's, he won't be in the ring ever again.

Ever.

Smart? hell ya. He controls his future now.

Missed? hell ya. Who wants HHH - world champ for life. Need I say more?

DangerMouse

02-10-2005, 10:52 AM

DangerMouse, I just got the inside scoop from a very reliable wrestling source (can't mention any names). The whole Hogan/Russo thing was not a work, it was for real and Russo did screw Hogan and publicly humiliate him intentionally. Thats just about all I can say.

Any chance I could get a PM? Or did your source not have any more information?

ZombieMan

02-10-2005, 11:49 AM

Thats about all of the information that I can give out. I will ask my source if I can say anymore, but I don't think so. This is a risky business and its easy to lose a job over giving out too much info, and especially on the internet.

DangerMouse

02-10-2005, 01:27 PM

No problem.

ChaCho

02-10-2005, 04:23 PM

Just wondering but
zombie and mouse why you talking about something
that happened so long ago?

DangerMouse

02-10-2005, 05:40 PM

Just wondering but
zombie and mouse why you talking about something
that happened so long ago?

I was just curious about the "back story" on it.

At the time, it was a pretty big "to-do". But nobody knew exactly what went on.

Colorado Cajun

02-10-2005, 06:29 PM

actually the entire story of what happened was all over the net and many wrestlers gave their stories of what went down. Most fans who were into WCW back then knew all about what happened and why

onelegasy

02-11-2005, 09:43 AM

Here is a good site for stuff like that.

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showforum=2&prune_day=30&sort_by=Z-A&sort_key=last_post&st=40

DangerMouse

02-11-2005, 11:07 AM

actually the entire story of what happened was all over the net and many wrestlers gave their stories of what went down. Most fans who were into WCW back then knew all about what happened and why

Well...........?

ilovecandace

02-11-2005, 11:12 AM

Just wondering but
zombie and mouse why you talking about something
that happened so long ago?

cause he they can

ZombieMan

02-11-2005, 11:36 AM

Just wondering but
zombie and mouse why you talking about something
that happened so long ago?

^^^ Dumb question of the week. :lol:

onelegasy

02-11-2005, 11:55 AM

cause he they can

I have no more room in my signature block for that quote..

:waa:

ilovecandace

02-11-2005, 04:05 PM

awww TOOOOO BAD!!!!!!!

LOL

ChaCho

02-12-2005, 12:11 PM

Zombieman ur an a fag man
just askin why
no need to get all *****y man

ilovecandace

02-12-2005, 12:22 PM

^^^^^^^

grow up1!!!

ZombieMan

02-12-2005, 01:15 PM

Zombieman ur an a fag man
just askin why
no need to get all *****y man

Nope, I'm not into the fudge factory thing man, I'm married to a woman and we have a kid. Sorry that you feel that you can judge people that you don't know. It was a dumb question though because this IS a wrestling thread that has ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to do with wrestling. Common sense man, come on.

Dio

02-12-2005, 09:54 PM

Zombieman ur an a fag man
just askin why
no need to get all *****y man

It was just a joke jeez. You must not have a sense of humor.

P.S. You really need to get that sand out of your vagina.

FVD

02-13-2005, 10:42 AM

Something off topic I feel like asking....

Does anybody know where Mike Awesome is at the moment? It's a shame he got released by the WWE following the Invasion angle. He's related to Hulk Hogan too I believe. And speaking of Hogan what's happened to his nephew Horace who was in WCW?

ZombieMan

02-13-2005, 12:11 PM

I don't know where Mike Awsome is at the moment, I haven't heard a thing about him lately. He was pretty damn good, I do admit and I miss seeing him wrestle. I'm actually not sure if he is Hogan's cousin or not. As for Horace, last I heard he was trying to get into WWE and they weren't talking with him because Hulkster left and they didn't care to bring him in.

Se7en the movie

02-13-2005, 01:34 PM

onelegasy

02-14-2005, 10:20 AM

After Mike Awesome's match with Masato, I have been a huge mark for him.

Unfortunately, both WCW and WWE misused his talents and put him in crazy messed up angle that killed his image.

Not many heavyweights go to the top rope and execute moves like he did.

Last I heard he was wrestling in the south with a small company, and I can't remember the name of it.

ZombieMan

02-14-2005, 12:14 PM

Guys, I will keep my ears and eyes open and will try to find out where Mike Awsome is working at. Maybe one of my co-workers will know actually, I'll ask around.

DangerMouse

02-15-2005, 11:36 AM

carnage4u

02-15-2005, 11:43 AM

The match last night with Orton/Christian was top notch.. That and last week Triple HHH match really are nice

The 20 hits he did to christian was brutal,, crowd dug in and when he spawn around smug like that was awesome. Really make me like orton a bit more after that match. Christian shows why he is captain charisma, altough he got a nastly looking bump on his head partway thru that match.

I'm one of the 6 people that loved the Sid/shawn micheals feud and did like the guy, altough hes day has come and gone.

onelegasy

02-15-2005, 11:50 AM

In an interview with IGN last week, The Rock stated that he was "done" with WWE. In a followup interview done this week, The Rock further clarified what happened between him and WWE.

The Rock on his contract status: "Well, contractually, my contract was up, it came and went last year, at the end of the year last year, and it was an interesting way it all came out. I wasn't contacted or notified or anything like that.

The Rock on whether WWE just dropped him more or less: "It was never brought up. Yeah, basically. And I was over in Prague, as my man there was saying, filming, and again, it was just one of those things that kinda like hit like a ton of bricks. Because again, my own team, my managers and everybody, they're congratulating me. It moved me, because I had so much love from them, I thought well…"

The Rock on the possibility of returning to wrestling: "I'm sure the door's always open and I appreciate that… But yeah, I do miss the fans, that part sucks that, you know what I mean, I can't perform live like that. I'm sure I will one day… I love it, man. I love just, you know, live interaction…"

The Rock on whether he has the rights to use "The Rock" name: "No, actually I do. It's almost like a dual ownership, and we had made that agreement, I would say, a couple of years ago, so I'm able to go out and use the name The Rock and be billed as The Rock, if I wanted to, in movies… It's interesting now how things have kinda just taken a life of its own in terms of the name where everybody's like, 'Oh hey Dwayne Johnson...'"

DangerMouse

02-15-2005, 11:53 AM

I'm wondering who they're trying to kid with the whole "Batista to Smackdown angle".

It would be great if they actually did it. But its obvious to me Batista is going to find out the Triple H has been behind everything and has been trying to get him to go to Smackdown so he doesn't have to wrestle him at Wrestlemania.

They should just trade Angle and Cena for Batista.

onelegasy

02-15-2005, 12:00 PM

All right Wrestling Fans, you better be thanking me later after you feast your eyes on this:

http://skagenfightgym.dk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1648

ZombieMan

02-15-2005, 01:11 PM

Actually, I'd like to know what ever became of Sid Vicious.

Now THAT was a NASTY injury.

You'd think he would've been healed by now, but I'm wondering if something like that would take you out of the business permanently.

And what ever happened to Scott Steiner. He seemed to get a push in the WWE and then disappeared.

I have heard he was pretty tough to work with though.

You are right, Sid suffered a nasty, nasty injury. But I have similar things like that a few times at shows around the country. Last that I saw Sid, he was using a walking cane. I can't remember where I saw him, it was on TV but I don't remember what promotion. As for Scott Steiner, he just isn't wrestling anymore. He's sitting back and enjoying all of his money right now, guaranteed. He was becoming my favorite WWE superstar and then they let him out of his contract. I don't know why though. I heard that he was tough to work with too and I could tell by watching him that he was pretty stiff in the ring.

ZombieMan

02-15-2005, 01:28 PM

All right Wrestling Fans, you better be thanking me later after you feast your eyes on this:

http://skagenfightgym.dk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1648

I'm going to make quotes on most of those videos.

1st video...I'm sure that guy was ok after that bump, it wasn't too bad.
2nd video...The Giant forgot to push off on the powerbomb, but he got lucky.
3rd video...That is that guy's finisher, no injury that I know of.
4th video...I bet that one hurt, what a dumbass!
5th video...Once again, see 4.
6th video...I guarantee that dude will need some disk surgery in his back.
7th video...That guy is pretty lucky that he got rolled on over, he might be ok.
8th video...I would say that he got pretty serious neck injuries after that.
9th video...Albert was definitely hurt, he gave the ref the signal for it.
10th video...I can't see what happend too well.
11th video...He might have gotten a minor spike but it didn't look serious.
12th video...That guy is probably paralized right now.
13th video...Looks like it was a suplex turned into a DDT, very painful!
14th video...Broken ankle or knee perhaps?
15th video...I would say that he got his bell rung, good concussion.
16th video...Looks like it hurt like a *****.
17th video...Simple slip, I bet no one was hurt.
18th video...Booooring
19th video...Very well taken clothesline, it was all Orton. He's fine!
20th video...That was a big bump, but it probably didn't hurt too much.
21st video...I bet that guy has a broken neck.
22nd video...Simple **** up, I bet he is fine.
23rd video...The guy needs fired for a move like that, broken back at the most.
24th video...Nice bump taken to the outside, I bet he's fine.
25th video...Couldn't see much.
26th video...Broken shoulder or collar bone and canvas burn guaranteed!
27th video...Simple **** up, they should be fine.
28th video...That guy could have seen death.

Se7en the movie

02-15-2005, 01:53 PM

You are right, Sid suffered a nasty, nasty injury. But I have similar things like that a few times at shows around the country. Last that I saw Sid, he was using a walking cane. I can't remember where I saw him, it was on TV but I don't remember what promotion. As for Scott Steiner, he just isn't wrestling anymore. He's sitting back and enjoying all of his money right now, guaranteed. He was becoming my favorite WWE superstar and then they let him out of his contract. I don't know why though. I heard that he was tough to work with too and I could tell by watching him that he was pretty stiff in the ring.

I'm sorry but I can never forgive Steiner for the dreadful match against HHH from Royal Rumble 2003. The guy was good as a heel in WCW but lost it in the WWE.

As for an earlier comment about them swapping cena and angle for batista. Why must there be a swap? RAW have MORE then enough wrestler in their roster. Smackdown need some more talent and if batista were to move he should be the only one doing so. Both Angle and Cena are fine where they are.

Colorado Cajun

02-15-2005, 02:37 PM

Batista should stay on Raw. His heat is there and he has to go after HHH. That's where the story is. He goes to SD and all storylines are dropped and his heat lessens

onelegasy

02-15-2005, 02:54 PM

HHH is the north pole of the world.

The closer you get to it, the less heat there is.

Batista will be another big guy that HHH has gotten the best of.

slinger

02-15-2005, 03:04 PM

HBK should move to Smackdown, he's exhausted essentially every angle except to turn heel but that wouldn't work.

ZombieMan

02-15-2005, 03:11 PM

HHH is the north pole of the world.

The closer you get to it, the less heat there is.

:confused: Triple H gets a crapload of heat from the crowd.

ZombieMan

02-15-2005, 03:12 PM

HBK should move to Smackdown, he's exhausted essentially every angle except to turn heel but that wouldn't work.

Sure, a heel turn can always work. There is always some way to get someone over as a heel, you just have to have good writers. Which the WWE is lacking right now. ;)

slinger

02-15-2005, 03:16 PM

I'm sorry but I can never forgive Steiner for the dreadful match against HHH from Royal Rumble 2003. The guy was good as a heel in WCW but lost it in the WWE.

That match was so horrible it was funny. Then Benoit and Angle came out and put on basically the match of the year with a standing ovation to boot.The next HHH/Steiner match wasn't that much of a improvement either, then Steiner got stuck in that never ending feud with Test/Stacy.

DangerMouse

02-15-2005, 03:35 PM

I think both brands need some sort of shake up.

Personally, I think Smackdown getting a new channel would help immensely considering UPN isn't carried in my little Time Warner World.

I wonder if Vince took the lack of UPN TV's into consideration when he signed a deal with them.

Put it all on Spike.

As a side note, anyone else see a Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels Wrestlemania match on the horizon?

Colorado Cajun

02-15-2005, 03:41 PM

onelegasy

02-15-2005, 03:46 PM

:confused: Triple H gets a crapload of heat from the crowd.

It's not: oh, you're a bad bad man heat (real heat)

Its: die, we hate you for ruining the product heat. (false heat)

DangerMouse

02-15-2005, 04:24 PM

It's not: oh, you're a bad bad man heat (real heat)

Its: die, we hate you for ruining the product heat. (false heat)

I have to admit, there have been times when I've turned the channel just so I don't have to watch HHH.

ZombieMan

02-15-2005, 04:57 PM

ZombieMan

02-15-2005, 04:59 PM

HBK should go to SD and they should also bring Lesnar in to SD as well

Benoit needs to turn heel and feud with Shelton

Matt Hardy needs to return hell bent on making Kane's life hell on earth as well as Lita's when she can return to tv

Jericho needs a high profile feud again

I don't like the idea of HBK going to Smackdown, but bringing Lesnar back to SD would be an excellent idea. I would love to see Matt Hardy come back and make Kane and Lita's lives a living hell and have Snitsky at his side helping. But now, Lita is out for quite sometime with her injury. I wish that Benoit would turn heel and have a three way feud with Jericho and Shelton Benjamin.

FVD

02-15-2005, 08:39 PM

So is there gonna be a feud between Angle and HBK after what happened at the Royal Rumble?

DangerMouse

02-16-2005, 10:57 AM

So is there gonna be a feud between Angle and HBK after what happened at the Royal Rumble?

HBK is going to cost Angle a title shot at No Way Out and the two of them will have a match at Wrestlemania.

Nothing official. They've just tipped their hat enough about the story line.

onelegasy

02-16-2005, 11:23 AM

Could be an interesting match.

I hope we see a heel HBK against and face Angle.

DangerMouse

02-16-2005, 11:30 AM

Could be an interesting match.

I hope we see a heel HBK against and face Angle.

I doubt it. Angle is a heel right now and it wouldn't make sense for HBK to turn heel. In fact, it would be incredibly confusing if Angle turned face and HBK turned heel prior to Wrestlemania.....which means there is a distinct possibility that it will happen. ;)

Colorado Cajun

02-16-2005, 04:41 PM

Yeah Shawn will screw him this weekend and then he'll swap over to SD and have a damn good feud with Kurt up to Mania and prob even after

ZombieMan

02-16-2005, 10:04 PM

I don't really want to see Shawn Michaels on Smackdown but I guess he could have some really good feuds on that show come to think of it. Especially with Kurt Angle. That would really be awsome!

Se7en the movie

02-17-2005, 09:37 AM

Top 25 Greatest WreslteMania Matches (http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/article.php?columns_id=3330)

Very interesting article from 411mania. Though I really dont think I could agree with the number one. Definately in the top ten but at number one? Thats kinda iffy.

onelegasy

02-17-2005, 11:29 AM

I'm a Benoit fan til the end, but no way did that match earn the #1 spot in my eyes, but hey, what do you say?

ZombieMan

02-17-2005, 01:07 PM

I don't think that match deserved #1 either guys. Personally, I didn't care for it too much.

onelegasy

02-17-2005, 01:32 PM

Bret Hart vs Owen Hart was a masterpiece and should be closer to #1.

ZombieMan

02-17-2005, 01:33 PM

^^^ Agreed, that was a true masterpiece!

FVD

02-17-2005, 10:17 PM

Oh well I can't say I've seen anybody who has really shown tears toward winning the ultimate prize other than Benoit. It was a joy to see him winning. I think Guerrero was the same too.

FVD.

ilovecandace

02-17-2005, 10:21 PM

wow im impressed with tonights smackdown lol it was actually worth watching but anywasys GO BATISTIA

DangerMouse

02-18-2005, 11:08 AM

Oh well I can't say I've seen anybody who has really shown tears toward winning the ultimate prize other than Benoit. It was a joy to see him winning. I think Guerrero was the same too.

FVD.

I always liked to see guys win it that have been in the business forever and flat deserved to finally get on top.

I have to say my 3 favorites were Booker T and Diamond Dallas Page winning the WCW title and Chris Jerico finally winning the WWE title.

On a side note, I can't believe Jerico was held back so long because Vince didn't think he was "Main Event Material". I think Jerico is the best wrestler on the Mic in the WWE and the guy could always flat out wrestle.

FVD

02-18-2005, 09:40 PM

ZombieMan

02-18-2005, 10:05 PM

^^^ Ohhh man, thats one of my most memorable matches of his, when he faced Goldust. That match was VERY good indeed! I think that he deserves to be in the WWE's hall of fame.

onelegasy

02-21-2005, 09:40 AM

I thought one of Piper's best match was against Bret Hart.

His second best match was against David Keith in the movie They Live.

:)

ZombieMan

02-21-2005, 10:34 AM

^^^ HAHA, I remember "They Live". Thats cheesy good fun, I would actually like to buy that on DVD someday. Roddy was the man in that movie! ;)

DangerMouse

02-21-2005, 10:55 AM

So, what happened last night at "No Way Out"?

Was I right? HBK caused Angle to lose?

Colorado Cajun

02-21-2005, 11:02 AM

JBL retained of course
Taker took down Luther
Cena beat Kurt
Rey and Eddie won
Chavo is the new Cruiser Champ
Joy had the best tits and ass and won
Heidenreich got a dq for ramming a chair into Booker's throat

ZombieMan

02-21-2005, 11:12 AM

Thanks for the results CC! :)

carnage4u

02-21-2005, 11:54 AM

way to much time wasted on divas

time managment for this PPV was horrible.

i think the crowd fell alseep during taker match.
fun opener and good closer.

suprised HBK didnt show up to screw angle, but i suppose that coudl have taken away from basita causing havoc.

ilovecandace

02-21-2005, 02:49 PM

good ppv ...just cant wait

onelegasy

02-21-2005, 02:56 PM

WAY too much time on the Diva's

ilovecandace

02-21-2005, 03:27 PM

but that part was funny

DangerMouse

02-21-2005, 03:58 PM

What exactly happened with Batista?

I wonder if they'll figure out tonight on Raw that HHH has been behind the video's and the limo?

What do you think? Does Batista stay on Raw or go to Smackdown?

I think he stays.

ZombieMan

02-21-2005, 04:27 PM

I think he will go to Smackdown eventually.

carnage4u

02-21-2005, 04:47 PM

as much fun as him laying down the smack on jbl and i wish i was cool dj boy. i think him taking on Triple HHH will just be to muchfun.

i think anyone over time has the chance to change back and fotth on the shows.

All he did was come out at the end, and beat up JBL's crew,, and jbl crawled away and beat up more by mr dj :)

HotBoy

02-21-2005, 05:40 PM

You know, Batista could decide to go after both titles!!!

Instead of a Triple Threat, it could become a Fatal 4-Way between Batista, HHH, JBL, and John Cena!!! (or 5-Way if you count the Big Show)!!!

Well, that's wishful thinking on my part!!! ;) ;)

Se7en the movie

02-21-2005, 06:30 PM

Cena is getting a little boring. I wouldnt like to see the guy go for a World Title, he needs to step up his in-ring game, I like his gimmick but the guy has become, well I wouldnt say sloppy but he isnt putting on as good matches as he used to.

Question about No Way Out, was the main event any good? I mean I just cant picture the barbed wire cage. I presume someone was bloodied.

carnage4u

02-21-2005, 06:45 PM

i do enjoy JBL more and more every week
like always i like people right before they get knocked from the top into nothinness

ZombieMan

02-21-2005, 06:52 PM

Cena is getting a little boring. I wouldnt like to see the guy go for a World Title, he needs to step up his in-ring game, I like his gimmick but the guy has become, well I wouldnt say sloppy but he isnt putting on as good matches as he used to.

Very, VERY much agreed. I think he has been a bit lazy lately.

ZombieMan

02-21-2005, 06:53 PM

i do enjoy JBL more and more every week
like always i like people right before they get knocked from the top into nothinness

Yep and my thoughts exactly as well.

FVD

02-21-2005, 08:18 PM

Well I for one hopes that Batista decides to remain on Raw. I'd rather have him defeat HHH for the title. On the other hand if he goes to Smackdown he'll be in with a great chance of beating JBL. HHH has too much control over Raw.

FVD.

Knerys

02-22-2005, 03:25 AM

jbailey84

02-22-2005, 07:58 AM

And what do you all think about Rowdy Roddy Piper being inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame at Wrestlemania. Piper will always be one of my favourite superstars. It's a shame he got fired a couple years back as I was hoping he would have been a part of WMXX. This being because he attended WM's 1 and X. I loved his match against Golddust that year.

FVD. it was actually Wrestlemania 12 when Piper fought Goldust in the Backlot Brawl Match, not WM X.

I agree with onelegasy of Piper's best match defending his Intercontinental Title against Bret Hart at WM 8.

carnage4u

02-22-2005, 11:03 AM

Rick Flair: Find a ****ing brain!!!

But I will say that the last 5 minutes of Raw were definitely worth the 10 minutes of mind numbing banter that it took to get to it. Very nice pay off indeed.

Now don't screw it up McMahon!

they payoff was excellent. great fun.. but it did drag a bit to it, but once all hell broke loose.. fun time

onelegasy

02-22-2005, 12:01 PM

HHH vs Batista for title in WM?

Batista will win, 3 months later, HHH gets it back, 6 months after that, Batista joins: Kane, Jericho, Benoit, Booker T, RVD, etc.

Big push, HHH program, HHH gets final laugh, wrestler never the same again.

DangerMouse

02-22-2005, 12:19 PM

$10.00 says HHH still doesn't drop the belt.

Although I think a story line where Batsita wins the belt and HHH chases after the belt for the next few months would be an entertaining story line, I don't have faith in HHH to drop the belt at Wrestlemania.

I think Batista loses somehow and the WWE writers use the tired and cliche "so close, yet so far" story line where Batista seems to get close to the title but can't seem to win it, until he suddenly wins it at some ppv down the road.

ilovecandace

02-22-2005, 01:00 PM

actually i think HHH is retaring after this match.... but who knows.....he does have a child to take care of

onelegasy

02-22-2005, 01:10 PM

retaring?

Wtf?
What child?

chewie

02-22-2005, 02:11 PM

Cena will win and Batista will win. Then HHH will get the belt back sometime down the road and lose it again at the next Wrestlemania. It's like a broken record.

LS2002

02-22-2005, 02:36 PM

Hey does anybody think we will see UT vs. Orton at WM? I mean true it was rumored that Kane and UT would team up to fight Snitsky and Heidenreich however I heard plans have changed.

ZombieMan

02-22-2005, 03:01 PM

Personally, I would still like to see Kane and Undertaker vs. Snitsky and Heidenreich in some sort of a gimmick match. The battle of the big men!

onelegasy

02-22-2005, 03:58 PM

Umm...

Remember Kronic vs UT and Kane????

No @$#&(* way do I want to see another big man tag team match again

HotBoy

02-22-2005, 06:22 PM

it was actually Wrestlemania 12 when Piper fought Goldust in the Backlot Brawl Match, not WM X.

I agree with onelegasy of Piper's best match defending his Intercontinental Title against Bret Hart at WM 8.

Wasn't the Piper/Goldust match the one where Goldust ran Piper over with a car? And didn't Piper mess up his hip in that match?

onelegasy

02-23-2005, 10:11 AM

His hip was long since messed up.

onelegasy

02-23-2005, 01:25 PM

My question to all of you:

What can WWE do to make their belts worth something. Especially the Intercontinental belt.

Keep in mind the main objective for WWE (HHH) is to have HHH win the belt more times than Flair has won his belt so that someone in WWE can say that they are the greatest Champion ever and had won the belt more times than anyone else.

FVD

02-23-2005, 07:56 PM

Umm...

Remember Kronic vs UT and Kane????

No @$#&(* way do I want to see another big man tag team match again

I was upset that Kronik didn't stay in WWE as they were a kickass tag team.

FVD

02-23-2005, 08:00 PM

it was actually Wrestlemania 12 when Piper fought Goldust in the Backlot Brawl Match, not WM X.

Ah yes you're right Bailey. Cheers ;)

Also about Cena needing to step up his game. Do you all think he deserved that win at No Way Out? I felt he did a good job. As for JBL he's proving to be a credible heel every week. How clever he was at sneaking out underneath the ring. What a twist that was with us all thinking that Show was gonna win.

FVD.

ZombieMan

02-23-2005, 11:12 PM

BIG NEWS FOR ME...

XWild Wrestling Entertainment (a new fed) contacted me today about refereeing and possibly wrestling on their new shows. This fed is going to be on a major television network that is un-announced so far, but there is a rumor that it will be on TBS and owned by Ted Turner. The press release will be very soon, I will keep you all updated on this as more news comes. Rumor has it that Hulk Hogan, and Sting have talks with this new fed, ones of my wrestling buddies told me about that. I'm pretty excited to get the big offer! Also there is talks about the show getting a Monday evening timeslot, YIKES!

onelegasy

02-24-2005, 09:11 AM

Good Luck, hope it works out.

glsspder

02-24-2005, 10:09 AM

Good luck Zman , hope you get your big chance

DangerMouse

02-24-2005, 11:12 AM

That completly ROCKS ZombieMan!!!

Good luck to you. And I hope TBS does go toe to toe with the WWE and IMPACT! and puts out a better product.

ZombieMan

02-24-2005, 12:02 PM

Well, I just got the official word from Mr. Page (X Wild CEO) and he said that we will be airing on HBO. The offer in pay is most excellent, but I will be on the road through most of the year, meaning I won't be able to come on here much if I do it and I'd be away from my family alot. Also its a 6 year contract, so thats kind of freaky. The show will go head-to-head with WWE's Raw, but the thing about X Wild Wrestling Entertainment is, that its going to be like ECW, ANYTHING GOES, and thats the name of the show. "Anything Goes"! This way through HBO means that the FCC can't nail them for obscenity or whatever, good call by Mr. Page. HAHA! Anyhow, if you know any indy wrestlers looking to hit it big, tell them to get ahold of me and I can pull some strings for them. Also, this is all if things go well with the network on signing the deal and setting up the press conference. The Ted Turner, Hogan, and Sting rumors were not true by the way, I asked him. Also, it will be a traveling show like the WWE.

DangerMouse

02-24-2005, 12:08 PM

Wow.

HBO? No FCC?

You can put out a product Vince McMahon wishes he could produce.

I may get HBO just to watch this.

Good Luck!!!!!

ZombieMan

02-24-2005, 12:10 PM

I will most definitely let you know when and if the deal goes through with HBO, but I think talks are looking most excellent right now.

Se7en the movie

02-24-2005, 12:50 PM

Good stuff man! So...eh...could I get a job?

ZombieMan

02-24-2005, 12:57 PM

Quite possibly, how long have you been wrestling and such?

Se7en the movie

02-24-2005, 12:58 PM

ah no, I really dont think I'm near ready yet. But cool for you anyway...if only i got HBO in Ireland.

carnage4u

02-24-2005, 01:43 PM

very intersting.... and cool.
way to go zombieman

Halofan1

02-24-2005, 04:45 PM

ilovecandace

02-24-2005, 04:51 PM

does any think tongihts smackdown will be good?

ZombieMan

02-24-2005, 05:08 PM

Maybe, I hope Smackdown is good tonight! :)