Go WWE!

[jbailey84]

thats pretty cool. dont know about the dog though

[Se7en the movie]

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII don't get it.

[Colorado Cajun]

Ein Rules!!!!

[ZombieMan]

HELL YEAH, that is the ****!

[jbailey84]

with Taboo Tuesday just 3 days away, the very first interactive pay per view will take place, where the fans finally get to chose what they want to see.

here are my picks. hopefully i'll do better than Smackdown's No Mercy going 0-7 (excluding Spike Vs Nunzio)


Raw's Taboo Tuesday

Eugene* vs. Eric Bischoff
loser will become the winner's servant

Christy* vs. Carmella
Evening Gown Match

Fulfill Your Fantasy Battle Royal
WINNER: Victoria NEW CHAMP
Schoolgirl Outfit

World Tag Team Championship
La Resistance Vs HBK & Benoit* NEW CHAMPS

Kane* vs. Snitsky
"Weapon of Choice" Chain

Intercontinental Championship
Jericho Vs Batista* NEW CHAMP

Randy Orton* vs. Ric Flair
Steel Cage Match

World Heavyweight Championship
HHH* Vs Edge

[Rogue]

http://ic1.deviantart.com/images/i/2003/10/9/f/The_Bebop_Wrestling_Federation.jpg



:D :D That rocks, glss.

[jbailey84]

hey rogue, long time no see

[jbailey84]

just got done voting for tonights PPV. one thing that was funny while voting, when i went to vote on the HHH match, my screen froze lol. but cant wait to see how it all goes down tonight!

[stonefaced_1]

I'm going to Taboo Tuesday tonight! I just got tickets, they are in the lower section but the Bradley center is a great venue. I'll give my thoughts when I get back.

[ZombieMan]

I'm gonna throw out my votes and tell you all who and what I voted for...

Triple H vs. ??? (I voted Shawn Michaels)

Ric Flair vs. Randy Orton (I voted for a Falls Count Anywhere match)

Kane vs. Gene Snitsky (I voted for the weapon to be a chain)

Chris Jericho vs. ??? (I voted for Maven)

Eugene vs. Eric Bischoff (I voted for the loser to get shaved bald)

Fantasy Diva Battle Royal (I voted for the French Maid costumes)

Christy vs. Carmella (I voted for the pillow fight)

[Se7en the movie]

I'm going to Taboo Tuesday tonight! I just got tickets, they are in the lower section but the Bradley center is a great venue. I'll give my thoughts when I get back.

Could you make a 'Se7en is Great' sign?
I haven't voted for this as I don't really know how, but i just hope the weapon isn't a chain. Its a little boring. What are the other options? Also who are the options to face Jericho? I don't like the idea of Maven, though I haven't seen him wrestle in ages.

[ZombieMan]

Maven has come A LONG WAY with his wrestling skills. He is one of my favorite WWE stars and they hardly ever use him and if they do, its always in the wrong way. The chain was a good choice compared to a chair and a lead pipe.

[IamMrDJ]

Courtesy of Rajah.com. I will keep updating this as the PPV continues

WWE Taboo Tuesday Live Coverage (Real-Time PBP)
Filed under: News- J Bratcher @ 8:05 pm EDT
WWE Taboo Tuesday
October 19th, 2004
Announcers: Jim Ross & Jerry “The King"Lawler
Written By: Jeremy Bratcher




Chris Jericho vs Shelton Benjamin

The Coach announces after Jericho is in the ring that Shelton Benjamin will face Jericho for the IC Title with 37% of the vote.

Winner: Shelton Benjamin & New Champion

After the fans have voted, HBK won the vote with 39% so he will get the title shot tonight! Edge was second and Benoit was third.

Diva Battle Royal

Next up is the Diva Battle Royal. All of the girls make their way to the ring wearing school girl outfits. Trish Stratus if the first out to the ring, looking lovely in her outfit.


Winner: Trish Stratus

We then go backstage and learn that La Resistance will face Edge & Benoit for the Tag Team Titles tonight.

Kane vs. Gene Snitsky

The referee calls for the EMT’s. Kane is bleeding out of his mouth and nose after the lethal blow from Snistky. Kane is gasping for air as Snitsky gets back in the ring and gets the cover.

Winner: Gene Snitsky

Eugene vs Eric Bischoff

Winner: Eugene

Coach now comes out to announce the stipulation the fans voted on. It turns out that Uncle Eric will be shaved bald after an overwhealming vote.

Head being shaved got 59% of the vote. Eugene is still in the ring taunting the audience on.

Coach now tries to change the stipulations up saying that he has the power to override the fan vote. He states that Bischoff will only be Eugene’s servant for 5 minutes.

Vince McMahon’s music is cued. He comes to the ring and says that there will be no changing that Eric Bischoff’s head will be shaved bald. Eric say’s he won’t do it and McMahon says that if he doesn’t do it, then he is fired!

Eric is refusing to do it and Vince keeps telling him he will be fired. Eugene grabs some clippers as Eric finally sits down and Eugene goes to town on Eric’s hair.

Vince now calls Coach back. Vince goes over to the dress. Vince then tells Coach that the dress is his size and since he tried to change the stipulations of the match he is gonna wear this dress! Vince tells him to strip down, because he is gonna wear this damn dress!


Next up we have the Tag Team Championship Match.

La Resistance vs. Edge & Chris Benoit


Winners: Edge? & Chris Benoit

Benoit just won the match by himself after Edge left during the middle of the match.

Next up are the two New Divas!

Christy vs Carmella

He goes through all three stipulations and the vote is for…..Lingerie Pillow Fight with 53%, so the ladies are going to change into the Lingerie.

Winner: Christy

Up next is the main event and a bit early at that.

Triple H vs Shawn Michaels

HHH is first out to the ring. HBK follows him and is favoring his leg as he is walking out to the ring. HBK backs into the corner from the get go for support and both men go at it. HBK looks like he is already hurt.

HBK is really favoring his leg in the early going as HHH starts working it over by dropping his knee into HBK’s.

HHH grabs his leg and hooks on a reverse knee lock and just works on his leg in the middle of the ring. HHH hooks on an early figure four as HBK is now fighting for his life. HHH is yelling at the ref to ring the bell and HBK is pleading with him not to do it. HBK is trying to get to the ropes and he finally is able to grab the bottom rope. The referee has to get up and break the hold himself.

HHH is now going to hook on a figure four around the ringpost but HBK kicks HHH away and then sends him into the ringpost face first two times.

HBK finally mounting some offense against HHH as he lands a hard knife edge chop. He then hits a straight right hand, but he can’t leave the ropes because he can’t stand up without the support of them. HBK almost gets a near fall, but HHH is able to kick out.

HBK hits a low blow when the ref is not looking! He then hits a huge DDT as he plants HHH’s face into the ring.

HBK is going up top and he hits a huge elbow off the top rope. Batista is down to the ring and the referee comes over to get him out and as he does, HBK hits the sweet chin music on HHH!

Edge hits the ring also and nails HBK with a spear. Edge has taken HBK down and HHH is still down also. HHH rolls over on HBK and gets the 3 count to retain the title after Edge basically handed him the belt.

Winner: Triple H

[sniktawt]

I watched it , it was ok , I'm sure some of the voting was played with , can't see the WWE tampering with future storylines , lol , but you never know .

Snitsky was awesome.At least he's was making an awful storyline good.Lita can't act to save her life.I hope they keep Snits around after this angle finally dies.

Shawn looked like he really was in pain.

DJ you forgot...

The Last Match was FLAIR VS. ORTON
Inside a cage
Randy Won following an RKO.Flair wrestled a bit better than he usually does here.
Both Men were Bloodied and After the loss Flair Shook Randy's Hand.




Shawn and Trip's match was great despite Shawn really being injured , seemed like the
only match the fans were into , imo.
This may have been a much better show if they didn't have the 3 throwaway matches like Bischoff/Eugene , The two Raw Diva Bimbos and The Woman's Out to the floor waste of time Battle Royale , those were just a waste.

[IamMrDJ]

Sni I know I forgot but I fell asleep before it was over because I had to be to work early today.

[Colorado Cajun]

mmmmmm Christy
http://www.christyhemme.com/plumber.jpg

[sniktawt]

Get the Divas off Wrestling and I may be back full time as a fan.
Especially those bland divas like the one Mat posted.;)

[sniktawt]

Snik I know I forgot but I fell asleep before it was over because I had to be to work early today.
Yeah I figured that.
I was just helping out.

[Colorado Cajun]

Get the Divas off Wrestling and I may be back full time as a fan.
Especially those bland divas like the one Mat posted.;)
don't make me angry!! You wouldn't like me when I'm angry :angry: :P

[jbailey84]

well looks like i ended up going 4-8 on the winners and 3-5 for the type of match. not bad this time :D

[jbailey84]

has anybody heard/read about the rumor of Kurt Angle being traded over to Raw for Shawn Michaels to Smackdown?

[IamMrDJ]

NO I have not heard anything like that. Kurt is suppose to be starting up his own type of "Evolution" on SD soon. Also HBK might be out for awhile after injuring himself last week.

[jbailey84]

I MEANT Benoit! which doesnt make sense since Benoit won the Tag Titles @ Taboo Tuesday. :confused:

http://www.4w-wrestling.com/newsline/100674331.shtml

[IamMrDJ]

NO there is not any word of moving BEnoit either. Angle is a big part of SD and him starting a new stable shows that they are wanting him to stick around awhile.

[Rogue]

Orton/Jericho/Maven/Benoit stable, perhaps? The ending to Raw tonight was classic..give Trips what he deserves!

[sniktawt]

The Jericho Vs. Benjamin Match was one of the best matches this year IMO.
A little short but it was like the old time I-C matches , lots of near falls and some great moves.
Shelton Is here to stay!!

Orton/Jericho/Maven/Benoit stable, perhaps?
Seems Maven is getting a push , not sure about a stable tho , Maven may have been filling in for Shawn who if he wasn't hurt would probably have been the guy backing up Benoit and Jericho.I think that was just a Raw "Fan Favorite's/Good Guys" uprising but I'm sure some tag matches and 6 mans will come out of it.

As for Trips , the man is still the best thing on Raw.IMO of course.

[FVD]

So Triple H won again. I'm sick of that bastard working himself around the World Title scene. He'll never work the middle card again that's for sure. It's making me sick him winning the damn title all the time. At least Benoit held the title for 6 months.

I'm looking forward to the Orton/Flair match. Orton looks like he's gonna be the next big thing.

And you're right about Shelton Snik. He's awesome.

We won't get Taboo Tuesday yet as we're 2 weeks behind the US in the coverage. It used to be a month but now it's improving thanks to SKY in NZ.

And what's up with that Carlito fulla. Here he goes winning the US title on his debut match. Oh well I'll find out more tomorrow night.

FVD.

[Colorado Cajun]

I just want some new storylines damnit!! It's so damn stale now it's pathetic

Take some of the midcard talent like Rhyno, Hurricane, Tajiri, Batista, Christian, and Benjamin and give them good storylines to work with

Also make some real and legit tag teams or ditch the titles for the hardcore one or something

It's so time to retire Flair for good. He is not putting Randy over imo because he is so damn past his prime it's sad

Jericho needs a mainevent angle that last months damnit

Snitsky should get his ass handed to him by Lita or a returning Matt Hardy. Maybe Lita can run his sorry ass over with a zamboni. Now that would be entertainment

Evolution needs to be dropped or repackaged with new members. It's stale and has lost a lot of it's edge

Speaking of Edge have him join Evolution and then take it from HHH. It would make for some seriously good entertainment and give Evolution a much needed lift

The ladies need real characters again and some decent angles. They are good talents who have more to offer than **** filler matches and tits and ass

Where the hell is Test!!!!!!

Stevie Richards should get a push and be a midcard player on Raw again. The man is great on the stick and can act better than most

They so need to put Christy with a good young talent and have her manage him. Maybe someone like Shane Helms if he dumps the Hurricane gimmick

This stuff would make Raw damn good again if they would just write and book worth a ****

[jbailey84]

evolution is getting stale but atleast its not getting out of hand like the n.W.o in WCW.

they could bring back the Hardcore Title or maybe even the European Title.

Batista could use a push. just give him alittle more character developement, and there you go. when i saw him in Texas last month, he wrestled great in a tag match with him & Flair Vs Benoit & Shelton Benjamin.

[Se7en the movie]

So Triple H won again. I'm sick of that bastard working himself around the World Title scene. He'll never work the middle card again that's for sure. It's making me sick him winning the damn title all the time.

He deserves it.

[ZombieMan]

Raw doesn't know how to book anymore, thats all there is to it. WWE is really sucking ass lately and I haven't watched it for about a month now. Thats pretty bad when I won't even watch the crap. I say bring the FBI onto Raw and give them a good storyline against Batista (I think he is suppose to be Italian) to where he screwed some of their "family" out of some money or something and they kick the **** out of him and it becomes a big feud and then WWE brings in Big Vito. Now that would be interesting!

[sniktawt]

People should not get on Trips , he's still puts on the best Main event matches and he busts his ass day in day out.

Matt's right Flair is just terrible.

Where's Test ?...Who cares ?;)

The one talent that annoys me now is Edge , the guy is so boring and this new "Whacked out , I deserve a Title " angle is so played , Damn I hate that guy.

Snitskey is ****ing great , he deserves his push , this guy is on his way!!

[IamMrDJ]

Ok no one has ever or will ever win an argument with me when they are arguing that Triple H is not worthy on the Main Event. The man is one of the greatest wrestlers of all-time. He is right up there with HBK in my book, and as many people here know; I have been watching Wrestling longer then some of our posters.

[sniktawt]

Well I agree with you , trips is still great and is one of the all -time best.

[chewie]

HHH performs at a high level almost 100% of the time, which is higher than pretty much every other wrestler. I'm just tired of the guy carrying the strap.

[ZombieMan]

Ok no one has ever or will ever win an argument with me when they are arguing that Triple H is not worthy on the Main Event. The man is one of the greatest wrestlers of all-time. He is right up there with HBK in my book, and as many people here know; I have been watching Wrestling longer then some of our posters.

Yes you have been watching it longer than some on here I'm sure but once you get into a ring and learn the moves and how they are suppose to be and how to sell the correct way, then you will realize that any wrestler isn't perfect and 100% all the time. I've seen Triple H screw up alot of things but he always covers it pretty well, lol. I agree that he is one of the best though, but people are just sick of seeing him in the main event all the time and in my opinion Chris Benoit is a way better performer than Trips in the ring. Though Triple H reminds me alot of Harley in the ring sometimes and especially with that knee, which is pretty damn cool.

[ZombieMan]

Orton/Jericho/Maven/Benoit stable, perhaps? The ending to Raw tonight was classic..give Trips what he deserves!

Orton, Jericho, Maven, and Benoit?! Well, well, well it looks like we might just have a worthy face stable for once. I'm a big fan of all of those guys and they are all awsome in-ring performers!

[jbailey84]

i cant believe that Survivor Series is almost less than 3 weeks and nothing has been announced yet!

[Se7en the movie]

Too many PPVs in such a small space of time! How can anyone care about the matches with such little build up.

[jbailey84]

Smackdown has had some time to build up some matches, Raw on the other hand.

[Rogue]

Orton, Jericho, Maven, and Benoit?! Well, well, well it looks like we might just have a worthy face stable for once. I'm a big fan of all of those guys and they are all awsome in-ring performers!


I wish they'd do a stable. Orton is turning out to be a better face than I ever thought he could be. I don't know if they'll throw them all together though, it may just be a way to draw in the viewers. I at least hope they do some sort of "anti-Evolution" stable because I'm so sick of Evolution. It's the same boring crap every Monday night with HHH at the helm...bleh! Gimme something new.

Now, for a question, what's up with Edge? :confused:

[Se7en the movie]

I watched Maven on Heat only moments previous and I must say that that guy has gotta get some personality and a bigger move then a dropkick. He really has yet to impress me. I mean I can see him becoming big, but only if he expands his moveset and show a little personality (well more then bouncing round the ring with a smile on his face).

[LS2002]

If you ask me the WWE should move down to 5 PPV's

Royal Rumble
Wrestlemania
KOTR
Summerslam
and Survior Series

It would all give them a chance to build up the matches and get betters PPV.

[Knerys]

I wish they'd do a stable. Orton is turning out to be a better face than I ever thought he could be. I don't know if they'll throw them all together though, it may just be a way to draw in the viewers. I at least hope they do some sort of "anti-Evolution" stable because I'm so sick of Evolution. It's the same boring crap every Monday night with HHH at the helm...bleh! Gimme something new.

Now, for a question, what's up with Edge? :confused:
Simple he's going heel duh

He'll probably end up joining Evolution

[jbailey84]

If you ask me the WWE should move down to 5 PPV's

Royal Rumble
Wrestlemania
KOTR
Summerslam
and Survior Series

It would all give them a chance to build up the matches and get betters PPV. thats how it used to be. King of the Ring no longer exists, its now....um...Bad Blood i think?

[ChaCho]

hey whats up everyone im new here, just introducing
myself, i love WWE, and just now i finished watching smackdown
and it was great, 3 great matches were made for Survivor Series,
Booker T and JBL for the WWE Championship, Eddie Guerrero and Kurt
Angle in a classic four on four elimination match, and my favorite just
made, Undertaker vs Heidenreich, who you guys think will win those matches?

peace ;)

[jbailey84]

Welcome Cho :D

Booker T

Kurt's Team

Taker

[chewie]

They are going to have an old school survivor series match with the smackdown brand. That means they will probably have one with the raw brand also.

Orton, Benoit, Jericho, and Maven

VS

HHH, Flair, Batista, and ? (Edge maybe)

[ZombieMan]

I watched Maven on Heat only moments previous and I must say that that guy has gotta get some personality and a bigger move then a dropkick. He really has yet to impress me. I mean I can see him becoming big, but only if he expands his moveset and show a little personality (well more then bouncing round the ring with a smile on his face).

I like Maven alot and I like how he acts in the ring. He really doesn't have much of a personality which I like alot because its different to see a guy who makes it more realistic by not trying to throw out a wacky gimmick. Its cool how he acts all serious all the time and just goes out and wrestles and I enjoy his matches. I've seen him do some old school moves that are cool to see thrown back into the fold.

[ChaCho]

Hey everyone
Maven is a good wrestler, is just he doesnt have an image you know, every wrestler that is known as a great one is because he/she has an image, HBK, he's a showstopper, HHH, he always gets his way making him like a leader, The Rock, he has a charisma that made him the people's champion, i dont see maven in that classic survivor match for RAW, he isnt too good to make it in that kind of match on a PPV, also Booker T he won't win at survivor series, not that i dont like him, is just he wont, Angle wont win, Eddies team is great RVD, Rey, Big Show and him, who does Kurt have? Mark Jindrak, a newb, Luther Reings, a flunkey, and maybe one of the Dudleys, Eddie has the upper-hand, and The Undertaker will OBVIOUSLY win lol.

peace :cool:

[jbailey84]

maven might be able to turn the classic Survivor Series match into something. The Rock did back in 1997 when he was Rocky Maivia, winning the match by himself.

Booker T should win the belt. he's been with the company now for 2 years and every shot he's had, didn't get it. have him win at Survivor Series, lose it to Eddie or Kurt at the Royal Rumble. that way it'll be Eddie or Kurt Vs John Cena @ Wrestlemania 21:D

[ChaCho]

it could happen, but nah John Cena has been great in the last months, but look how he started, he's not good enough to challenge for the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania, Maven won't change by winning at survivor series, The Rock won because of his father and grandfather were there before him, Maven he is still a new face in the WWE, and yeah Booker T deserves the title, and i HATE JBL, but Booker T won't win.

peace :cool:

[Se7en the movie]

JOHN CENA! You're crazy! It'll of course be Undertaker vs. Angle at wrestlemania. Also Booker T won't win the title, simple as that. He may have been with the company for 2 years but he doesn't have the ability anymore that he used to have and people who make it as top tier talent.

JBL may not have the ability of lets say Benoit but he can wrestle and he can do a hell of a promo.

[jbailey84]

i dont know how i'd react to see Taker Vs Angle, two totally different wrestling styles. Angle more technical/grappler, and Takers...well...seems to be different, a mix of the deadman & american badass.

i know they've fought before, but now its different.

[Se7en the movie]

Taker can go techniqal when he wants to. His closing matches with his badass gimmick.

[jbailey84]

yeah true, but it would be cool IF he does face Angle for the title and win it going 13-0

[Se7en the movie]

Jeez I didn't think of that. I doubt they'd have him lose his Wrestlemania winning streak and they haven't put the title on him in ages.

[ZombieMan]

Se7en are you working for Irish Whip Wrestling? How is your training coming along, like where are you at and what are you learning right now? Haven't talked to ya about that for quite sometime.

[Se7en the movie]

Well its going ok. I gotta lose a lot of weight before I really move on. But I do seriously enjoy doing it even if I ain't that good at it. Irish Whip Wrestling is the promotion in Ireland who runs the training, a number of guys from it have already been on shows. There was a big tour just recently, which went well, I only got to go to one, but i was well impressed.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I'm thinking about taking a trip to Ireland in a couple of years and I might see if I can get onto one of their shows.

[Se7en the movie]

Hey, in a couple of years you might see me on one of the shows.....

[ZombieMan]

Thats how long it takes to become a wrestler on their regular roster? Thats alot of crap if you are training there. It should be at least 8 months until you start wrestling on their shows if you are training under them.

[Se7en the movie]

Well no, i mean people have been wrestling for fewer then 8 months and are wrestling shows. I meant that when you come I'll be (hopefully) on the roster.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ LMAO, ohhh ok my bad! :)

[jbailey84]

know what would be interesting for Survivor Series, if they did have a Smackdown! Vs Raw Classic Match. SD's top 4 Vs Raw's top 4 or something

[IamMrDJ]

know what would be interesting for Survivor Series, if they did have a Smackdown! Vs Raw Classic Match. SD's top 4 Vs Raw's top 4 or something

That would be great to see but Vince has repeatedly said that WrestleMania will be the only WWE PPV with inter-brand matches.

Oh and just to let people know the WWF (World Wildlife Foundation) has filed yet another lawsuit against the WWE. You can read about it here.
http://rajah.com/base/2004/1921

[Se7en the movie]

I watched Smackdown today for the first time in a while and I was well impressed. At least it actually has wrestling as opposed to RAW, which is all promo.

[ZombieMan]

Oh and just to let people know the WWF (World Wildlife Foundation) has filed yet another lawsuit against the WWE. You can read about it here.
http://rajah.com/base/2004/1921

Thats the biggest bunch of bull**** that I've ever read or heard about. I'm sick and tired of the World Wildlife Fund and I will NEVER support their cause and I know lots of people that won't for this particular reason. They are just desperate for money because nobody gives a **** about them and their pandas.

[Se7en the movie]

Thats the biggest bunch of bull**** that I've ever read or heard about. I'm sick and tired of the World Wildlife Fund and I will NEVER support their cause and I know lots of people that won't for this particular reason. They are just desperate for money because nobody gives a **** about them and their pandas.

A little harsh don't ya think?

[LS2002]

An Interesting Rumored Match for Survior Series.

I was over checking the matches for SS and I came across this. It is rumored but it would be awesome If this was true

-War Games style match w/ Evolution & Edge against Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, and Maven

Does this mean what I think it means? Are they bringing in War Games?

[jbailey84]

they could bring in that style match of War Games, but i dont think they'll use the PPV name although, they just may, Survivor Series: War Games. that would be a cool match though :D

i'd have to say that my favorite SS has to be 2002. great card, great wrestling, just a great PPV! The return of D-Von, Big Pappa Pump appearance, Women's Title Hardcore Match, Tag Team Elimination Title Match, Brock F-5's Big Show and gets screwed over by Heyman, and the first ever Elimination Chamber Match with Shawn Michaels winning.

also to mention, Survivor Series '94, '96, & '97.

[jbailey84]

JUST RELEASED FROM WWE.COM & RAJAH.COM

"The WWE released A-Train, Billy Gunn and Test from their contracts today. We wish them the best in their future endeavors."

i believe someone asked about Test earlier, looks like we know now.

[IamMrDJ]

I heard about Train and Gunn earlier today but not Test. I am not surprised though. Gunn adn Train have been complaining backstage lately especially Gunn. Test has been hampered by injuries and got in some hot water earlier this year when he missed a show after already being in town but leaving and not getting back in time.

[chewie]

My favorite Survivor Series was in 98 because that's the only one I've been too, plus that was when they had the big tourny for the title with the Rock winning. I would love to see War Games return.

[Glordreen]

Well Raw is starting. IU used to be huge wrestling fan, but have kind been slippin gaway as it is beginning to suck. The sucking began with the brand extension. I still watch it now and again. I'll watch a little tonight.

Best Match ever- Triple H vs Stone Cold (2 out of 3 falls, No Way Out 2001)

[Colorado Cajun]

Raw was mediocre again tonight

Edge and Tajiri were pretty damn great though. Especially Tajiri H lol

Lita still owns!

Gotta love Nova's new gimmick. Now just give him a good feud and let him wrestle

I can tell you already the arab angle is going to blow

[jbailey84]

so far here is somewhat an updated card for Survivor Series

- John Bradshaw Layfield vs. Booker T - WWE Title

- The Undertaker vs. John Heidenreich

- Chris Jericho, Maven, Chris Benoit, & Randy Orton vs. Triple H, Batista, Gene Snitzky, & Edge - Survivor Series Elimination Match
(The winner of the match (entire team) will have full control of RAW for one month following the PPV as Eric Bischoff is taking time off)

- Eddie Guerrero's Team vs. Kurt Angle's Team - Survivor Series Elimination Match

- Christian vs. Shelton Benjamin - Intercontinental Title

- Trish Stratus vs. Lita - Women's Title

just curious to see who will join Angle's team. i doubt it but it would be cool if they kept it a "surprise"(you know how stuff leaks) and it was Brock Lesnar

[IamMrDJ]

I am having a flashback to Tiger Ali Singh with the Arab Wrestler Angle

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Yup, and that totally went to hell pretty fast.

[jbailey84]

does anybody know the real reason with bischoff leaving Raw for a month?

[IamMrDJ]

does anybody know the real reason with bischoff leaving Raw for a month?

Nothing is specific yet but I have a feeling it has to do with a show he is producing. Earlier this year when Eric left Eugene in charge for a week he was in Vegas promoting his show to see if it would get picked up. Last I heard was that it was getting picked and now I assume is when he will be going to work on the show. I am sure that this has been in the works for awhile now.

[chewie]

It was some reality show wasn't it?

[jbailey84]

MORE RELEASES!!!!! FROM WWE.COM

The WWE released Gail Kim, Chuck Palumbo and Nidia from their contracts today. We wish them the best in their future endeavors.

what the f***!!

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Wow, I'm kind of surprised that they released Gail and Nidia. Gail was an awsome female wrestler, and Nidia had some bad ass charisma.

[Se7en the movie]

Meh, i could take or leave Gail Kim (Victoria is the greatest of the women wrestlers in WWE at the moment) but I really liked both Nidia and Chuck Palumbo. But maybe they are thinking of ending the roster split.

[spiderman_2k]

More released.

WWE has released three more talents. WWE.com has added Johnny Stamboli, Rodney Mack and Jazz to their story from yesterday on Gail Kim, Chuck Palumbo and Nidia being released.

Along with Billy Gunn, A-Train and Test, this makes for a total of nine WWE workers released this week.

[IamMrDJ]

More released.

WWE has released three more talents. WWE.com has added Johnny Stamboli, Rodney Mack and Jazz to their story from yesterday on Gail Kim, Chuck Palumbo and Nidia being released.

Along with Billy Gunn, A-Train and Test, this makes for a total of nine WWE workers released this week.


I just talked to my friend on the phone and I predicted that Jazz and Mack would be added to the list. Mack because he has been out due to injury for so long and Jazz because she and Mack are together and also that she just did not have a storyline in a long long time.

[Colorado Cajun]

alright they are seriously making some poor decisions on firing decent talent. Jazz, Johnny, Gail and even Nidia are damn good talents who can actually perform well in the ring.

They should all get snapped up by TNA added with Test and TNA would have a damn good roster that if used right and given decent tv time could compete with Vince imo

[jbailey84]

what the hell is going on in the world of the WWE?!?! i cant believe that!! 9 people in a week!!!!

im surprised that they did get rid of Nidia and Gail Kim. i agree with se7en about Victoria.

in the words of Goldberg. "Who's next?"

[spiderman_2k]

in the words of Goldberg. "Who's next?"

Rico it seems.


WWE.com has announced that Rico has been released from his contract. That makes the tenth WWE Superstar released this week.

[jbailey84]

this is from Ian Hamilton, one of the writers for the Wrestling Online Newsletter i get. pretty interesting

"Things cannot be alright inside WWE HQ these days. November is only four
days old, and we've seen TEN "WWE Superstars" released from their
contracts.

When WCW's accounts were full of red ink, we saw the axing of several
unused wrestlers, while younger, inexperienced guys replaced them.
Although WWE has a few million bucks in cash stored away, it looks like
John Laurinaitis is bringing his fire sale mentality into WWE.

With less than a month having passed since WWE learned that their
October pay-per-views, No Mercy and Taboo Tuesday, plumbed the depths in
terms of buy rates (both shows drew well under 200,000), it looks as if
WWE are taking pre-emptive measures, and starting to cut costs before
they need to.

Which brings us to the predicament that we are in today, with no less
than ten (it'll probably rise by the time this is printed) wrestlers
finding themselves on the unemployment queue. Let's take a look back at
those who won't be on our TV screens for a while:

A-TRAIN

The former Prince Albert had been out of action for the past few months,
after suffering a torn rotator cuff. It was no big loss, as A-Train had
done absolutely nothing since being traded onto Raw, in the hectic days
after the televised "draft lottery" back in March. A-Train was close to
a comeback, but with the creative team unable to think of anything for
him to do, the WWE decided to cut their losses on a character who failed
to get over in any guise. Whether it was the evil piercing guy. the guy
who waxed his legs but ot his torso. or the Hip Hop Hippo (shudder),
nothing seemed to work for this guy. Not even a name change or a spell
with the Intercontinental title.

BILLY GUNN

Oh man, how do I write this up without incurring the wrath of the libel
lawsuits? Here goes. the former "Assman" disappeared from TV in the past
few months, after tagging with Bob Holly for a large part of 2004.
According to reports in Dave Meltzer's Wrestling Observer Newsletter,
Gunn was found passed out in an airport lounge several weeks ago, and
was sent into rehab. WWE released Gunn from his contract this past week,
signalling that something had either gone wrong with the rehab, or they
used the old "creative has nothing for you" excuse. The latter is
probably true, given that Gunn had been given nothing to do since his
"gay" tag team with Chuck Palumbo died off about two years ago, when
Gunn picked up an injury.

CHUCK PALUMBO

Oh man. after the aforementioned tag team with Billy Gunn died off,
Palumbo was left floundering on his own before being used as a part of
the FBI stable. The latest version of the FBI never really took off, and
Palumbo was left on Velocity for most weeks. He was inexplicably traded
to Raw in March, where he did. absolutely nothing. Palumbo got some new
ring attire, but was left without a gimmick. On his last TV appearance
for the company, he was given the moniker of "Custom Chuckie P", and the
supposed gimmick of a mechanic. Unsurprisingly, the exhumation of the
Thurmann Sparky Plugg gimmick didn't get him over, and WWE cut their
losses on Palumbo this past week. Just think back to the promise Palumbo
had alongside Sean O'Haire three years ago.

GAIL KIM

A surprising choice by the WWE. Gail Kim won the Women's title in a
battle royal on her Raw debut on June 30, 2003, after several weeks of
Matrix-style promos building up the Canadian. Unfortunately, the Gail
Kim Experiment didn't quite work out, and four weeks later, Gail lost
the Women's title to Molly Holly in Colorado. Shortly afterwards, Gail
was turned heel, working with Molly (who had supposedly brought her into
the WWE, which made zero sense if you think about it), but injuries
ended any momentum Gail had. A broken collarbone kept her out of action,
and while she was away, she got the customary WWE Boob JobT. The
implants leaked shortly after her return - when she was suddenly being
labelled coming from Korea, and WWE never really had any clue what to do
with her, short of putting her in battle royals and tag team matches
with Molly.

JAZZ

This one wasn't so surprising. Jazz certainly was a "bad-ass" wrestler,
but in an age when WWE markets the women on their roster as Divas, Jazz
was everything they weren't looking for. Jazz made her WWE debut at the
2001 Survivor Series as the "mystery" entrant in a six-way match for the
Women's title. Jazz was pushed into the title picture, and a programme
with Trish Stratus resulted in Jazz becoming Women's champion for just
over three months in February 2002. A knee injury prompted the WWE to
end the angle, and put the belt back on Trish - as Jazz went in for
surgery on a torn ACL. She returned to TV in January 2003, and picked up
her feud with Stratus, but did very little before being "given" Teddy
Long as manager in April of that year. Two weeks on, Jazz became a
two-time Women's champ, before losing the title in a battle royal to
newcomer Gail Kim. Jazz had been out of the title hunt in recent weeks,
but had surprisingly won women's battle royals on house shows during her
last weekend with the WWE. After failing to get over, Jazz was shown the
door earlier today by WWE, along with her husband.

JOHNNY "THE BULL" STAMBOLI

Arriving in WWE way back in March 2001 as a part of the WCW sale, Johnny
"The Bull" Stamboli was originally sent to the HWA. He spent 15 months
there before being called up to the "major" league, when he made his
debut on Sunday Night Heat, beating Tommy Dreamer. Stamboli spent his
time between WWE and HWA as he waited a full-time call up - and during
that time, he became a Hardcore champion for a matter of seconds on two
separate occasions, while regaining the HWA World title. The demise of
the Hardcore division pushed Stamboli back into the developmental
league, before being called up to SmackDown in early 2003, as a part of
the FBI, alongside Nunzio and Chuck Palumbo. Unfortunately, Stamboli did
little apart from play a comedy character in the FBI, and was last seen
doing skits promoting his "slowness" to hype up SummerSlam.

NIDIA

As a winner of the WWE's first Tough Enough series, you would have
expected Nidia to get some form of push as WWE plugged their current run
of Tough Enough on SmackDown. Nobody thought that push would have been
out of the door. After winning Tough Enough in September 2001, Nidia was
sent straight to OVW, to continue her training. She returned to TV in
June 2002, as the "stalker" of the Hurricane, setting up a feud between
Hurricane and Nidia's "girlfriend", Jamie Noble. Nidia spent most of her
time as Noble's valet, resulting in some funny segments during a
storyline where Noble inherited a fortune from his dead aunt. That angle
somehow morphed into Nidia becoming blind after taking a mouthful of
Tajiri's green mist. Nidia tottered around SmackDown with a big pair of
black glasses on (to show she was blind), while Jamie Noble used her as
a human shield as he wrestled. Of course, it was all a set up, and Nidia
wasn't really blinded for life - as she turned on Noble, before
shredding her "fur coat" in front of Noble's eyes. She disappeared from
TV as she waited for a new gimmick, and returned as a wrestler - with
the customary WWE Boob JobT (as if she needed it). Nidia was traded to
Raw during the televised portion of the draft lottery this past March,
but Nidia did nothing as a wrestler, asides from being a lackey to
Victoria in Heat's customary tag team matches. Maybe if she hadn't had
that boob job, she'd have looked more like a wrestler, and not the
Puerto Rican stripper that was perceived to be her gimmick.

RICO

A late starter, Rico joined OVW in 1999, with the gimmick of being "The
Role Model". The former LA policeman spent a few years there, before
being called into WWE in 2002 - as a stylist to Billy and Chuck. Months
after arriving, Rico became a tag team champion, when he teamed with
Rikishi (as a mystery partner) to pin Billy and Chuck for the tag
titles. He dumped the titles back, and turned on Billy and Chuck in the
September 2002 "gay wedding" - which saw Rico join the Raw brand, and
align himself with Rosey and Jamal (aka 3 Minute Warning). After
breaking up with 3MW in early 2003, he revived the tired Adrian Street
gay gimmick, alongside Miss Jackie. He did little on Raw, and was traded
to SmackDown in March 2004 in the non-televised portion of the Draft
Lottery (along with Jackie). As a surprise partner for Charlie
Haas, Rico won the tag titles from Rikishi and Scotty 2 Hotty in April,
defending the belts for several weeks, before losing them to the Dudley
Boyz in June. In that match, Rico picked up a hamstring injury, which
pinned him to the sidelines for several months, before returning last
month to save Miss Jackie from Billy Kidman's Shooting Star Press. Rico
was involved in last month's No Mercy PPV, as a part of a winning side
in the six-man tag match between himself, Haas and Miss Jackie - against
the Dudleyz and Dawn Marie.

RODNEY MACK

After a short stint in OVW, Rodney Mack's WWE career got off to a false
start. He arrived on TV in January 2003, as a part of John Cena's troupe
on SmackDown, alongside the former Bull Buchanan (B2, B-Squared,
whatever he was called that particular week). After the departure of
Buchanan, Mack was dropped from the group, and re-emerged on Raw a month
later. Mack was aligned with Teddy Long, as he beat Al Snow on his Raw
debut (and damn near killed Snow with his finishing move). During his
first year, Mack was involved in a tag team with Chris Nowinski - which
saw the pair beat the Dudley Boyz in the Bad Blood PPV last year.
However, the concussion which sidelined Nowinski broke up the team,
before Mack was ruled out for a lengthy spell with a knee injury. Mack
returned to the WWE a few months ago, but was only wrestling on Heat.
Mack's last major TV appearances included a defeat to Maven in the
pre-Unforgiven Heat, before getting the fewest votes for the
Intercontinental title match at last month's Taboo Tuesday.

TEST

Oh man, where do we start? Andrew Martin debuted in late 1998 as "Test"
- the newest member of Vince McMahon's Corporation. He made his PPV
debut in the 1999 Royal Rumble, where he was eliminated by Steve Austin.
Test was kept away from any programmes, and was thrown onto WrestleMania
15 at the last minute, winning a battle royal with D'Lo Brown to get a
tag title shot against Jeff Jarrett and the late Owen Hart. After the
break up of the Corporate Ministry later in 1999, Test joined The Union,
but that group was quickly killed off. We then saw Test in love, as he
went on a date with Stephanie McMahon (cashing in a "favour" given to
the Union by storyline-CEO Stone Cold Steve Austin). While he was in
love, Test had a feud with the Mean Street Posse and Shane McMahon,
culminating in an entertaining "Love Her Or Leave Her" Streetfight at
SummerSlam 1999, which Test won.

As is usually the case with WWE romances, the couple planned their
wedding, which was set for the November 29. Test, who had wrestled
earlier that night, walked down the aisle sweating profusely, and to his
own theme music. We all know what happened next: Triple H gatecrashed
the wedding, revealed he'd married Steph the previous night in a cheesy
drive-through marriage ceremony, and so started the
McMahon-Helmsley-era.

Test's next career move was as a part of a tag team with Albert - with
the debuting Trish Stratus by their sides. The team, called T&A, did
little, and was broken up by the end of the year when Albert turned on
his partner. The next time Test did anything of note, was in the
Invasion angle, when he aligned himself with WCW, before winning
immunity from the sack in the "Immunity Battle Royal" of enhancement
talent at the 2001 Survivor Series.

2002 was a year to forget for Test, as he was lost in the shuffle. The
arrival of Scott Steiner resulted in a tag team between Test and
Steiner, with (Test's real life partner) Stacy Keibler as their manager.
Predictably, the team split, leading to a long feud between the pair
over who got Stacy's "services". Test won the final match of the series
at Unforgiven last year, before being forgotten again - apart from the
odd job to Shane McMahon, who ended up breaking his foot on a house
show, as McMahon performed the Van Terminator on the hapless Canadian.

A series of injuries pinned Test to the sidelines this year, and on
another attempted comeback earlier this year, Test injured his neck at a
house show in Madison Square Garden. He underwent spinal fusion surgery
in July, which would keep him out of action for 12 months. Rather
callously, WWE released Test this past week, with internet reports
claiming that Test's annual salary would pay for six developmental guys
in OVW.

For a company which had the policy of not sacking guys who were unable
to work, WWE's move seemed heartless. Especially when John Laurinaitis
told Test "we hope you had some money saved". Obviously, Test isn't
going to return to WWE when his neck heals (and some reports claim that
he won't be able to return at all, which could have prompted his
release) - but it'll mean that someone will make a lot of money out of
an Andrew Martin shoot interview at some point down the road.

- So, who's next? As I write this, we've had ten guys (it was nine when
I started) released by WWE in November. There could be more. and my
predictions include: Hardcore Holly, Shannon Moore (what is it with his
Demolition-reject attire anyway?), Funaki, Scotty 2 Hotty and Akio.
Well, WWE's cut a lot of the fat from the Raw B-shows, so I guess
SmackDown will get a similar treatment in the not too distant future.

What is clear is this: the current round of roster cuts will leave WWE
with very little room to work in. The Raw brand especially is now
lacking any strength in depth - and any injuries to big names will leave
the company struggling to fill the voids, especially when it comes to
the flagging house show business.

I can't imagine what morale is like in the WWE locker rooms right now,
with everyone watching over their shoulders to see who's next.
Thirty-four guys (including developmental talent) have been let go this
year, and I can only see that number increasing. One thing I can say -
if I log onto WWE.com soon and see "Molly Holly released", Mr
Laurinaitis will have reason to watch his back as well.

[slinger]

Remember when Rico beat Ric Flair cleanly on RAW?

[IamMrDJ]

Two more wrestlers have been given their notice this week and will not be returning. Their names have not been released to the public yet.

I am thinking that one of them might be Steven RIchards. Richards has been barely used in the last few months and only in drag. The other wrestler I can see being from SmackDown, maybe Kenzo.

[Inval1d]

i bet ya atleast one will be back in the next 5 months. ;)

[Se7en the movie]

Two more wrestlers have been given their notice this week and will not be returning. Their names have not been released to the public yet.

I am thinking that one of them might be Steven RIchards. Richards has been barely used in the last few months and only in drag. The other wrestler I can see being from SmackDown, maybe Kenzo.

NOOOOO! For God sake! Stevie is a genius both in the ring and on the mic!

[jbailey84]

^^ yeah, when he was with ECW

[sniktawt]

None of those released are a big loss anyways.
It's about time they fired Test , he should have been gone three years ago.
I loved Rico but he's too old.

[Se7en the movie]

^^ yeah, when he was with ECW

No, still in WWE. Whenever he is given the mic (which is criminally very seldom) he is very funny. When he wrestles on Heat he always puts on a good show.

[ZombieMan]

They could have used Stevie Richards in a different way, that guy had alot more talent than people realize. You guys probably know that I'm sure, but damn the general public always thought that he was just some "jobber" because thats how WWE made him look. He is actually a very incredible worker!

[sniktawt]

LOL , Gotta love taped shows , Rico , just days after being fired , shows up on Velocity battling Kidman.lol.;)
You'd think they would have not shown the match.Just pathetic.Kinda pointless and really shows how bad taped shows can be.

[jbailey84]

lol, thats funny.

Survivor Series is just next week, here are my picks!!

Cruiserweight Championship
Spike(c)* Vs Chavo Vs Kidman Vs Mysterio

Intercontinental Championship
Christian Vs Shelton(c)*

Guerrero, Big Show, RVD & ??? vs. *Angle, Jindrak, Reigns & Cool

Women's Championship
Lita* Vs Trish(c)

Undertaker* vs. Heidenreich

WWE Title
Booker T* Vs JBL(c)

Orton, Jericho, Maven & Benoit vs. *Triple H(c), Batista, Snitsky & Edge

[sniktawt]

Well they did it again.
"Custom" Chucky P who also got canned this week appeared on Heat against Rosey.
Jeesh that is just bad.

[ChaCho]

Survivor Series picks

Cruiserweight Championship - I see Kidman winning, he's been an ass lately but i see him winning.

Intercontinental Championship - I see Benjamin winning

Women's Championship - Lita wins, she just deserves it.

Undertaker vs. Heidenreich - Obviously the Deadman, there is no one better than him.

WWE Championship - I said it earlier, i know Booker T deserves to win but nope, he will lose the match.

Orton's team vs. Hunter's team - I see Orton pulling this one out.

Eddie's team vs. Angle's team - Eddie wins this one.

peace :cool:

[IamMrDJ]

Ok so Rajah's released the current track list for the new WWE CD today. The CD looks pretty good.

* As of this report, here is the current list of songs that will be found on the upcoming WWE CD:

1. Evolution - Line in the Sand
2. Carlito Carribean Cool - Cool
3. Theodre Long - Mack Militant
4. Waterproof Blonde - Just Open Your Eyes
5. Heidenreich - Dangerous Politics
6. Diva Search - Real Good Girl
7. Chavo Guerrero - Chavito Ardiente
8. Undertaker - The Darkest Side
9. Eugene - Childs Play
10. Victoria Dont Mess With
11. Shelton Benjamin - No Stoppin
12. Billy Kidman - You Can Run
13. Smackdown - Rise Up
14. Gail Kim - Kinternational Woman
15. John Bradshaw Layfield - Longhorn
16. John Cena - Untouchables

But take a look at #14. Hmmm wasn't Gail Kim released last week? Well I guess they will be changing it up again.

[ZombieMan]

Here are my Survivor Series picks...

Cruiserweight Championship
Spike(c) Vs Chavo Vs Kidman Vs Mysterio: I think Kidman will win the title and hold it for awhile and I hope that he does. He deserves that title!

Intercontinental Championship
Christian Vs Shelton (c): I think Shelton will retain his title, and I agree with WWE's chosings if he keeps it.

Women's Championship
Lita Vs Trish (c): I think Lita will win the title and reign as the Women's champ for quite sometime feuding with Trish. I would rather Trish keep the title really though.

Undertaker vs. Heidenreich: I want to see The Undertaker win it and I think he will.

WWE Title
Booker T Vs JBL (c): I think JBL will retain, but I would like to see Booker T win it and keep the feud going between the two. That could be a classic feud if they make it right!

Orton, Jericho, Maven & Benoit vs. Triple H (c), Batista, Snitsky & Edge: Personally I think Triple H and the gang will win it and I hope they do. I also think that Flair will come down to help Triple H and his boys but they will beat down Flair only for him to turn face and Trips, Batista, Edge, and Snitsky will be the new Evolution and wreak havoc on WWE.

[jbailey84]

you forgot a match Zombie, Team Eddie Vs Team Angle

and WWE.com has a new look now. looks quite nice

[Colorado Cajun]

I just had to post it

http://www.wwe.com/images/superstars/smackdown_profile/dawn_marie_profile.jpg
because I dig her

[chewie]

I think that HHH's team will win the match Sunday. Then every other member will want a match for the title when it is their week to run the show. HHH will lose the title to one of those guys, then regain it back when he runs the show on the 4th week.

[glsspder]

Who is the chick that did the interview with edge?

[IamMrDJ]

She is the newest member of the WWE Interview team. They introduced her last week. I am not sure about her interview skills yet but she is good eye-candy.

[glsspder]

definate eye candy

[chewie]

Yeah, she's hot.

[ChaCho]

wasn't she one of the girls who ran for the $250,000 RAW Diva Search?
Damn and also Chris Benoit dissapointed me a little, he said he was going to do something incredeble, i didn't see nothing but the same he does every week. kind of sad for a man who won the World Title at WWXX.

peace :cool:

[Knerys]

Seems the WWE just signed former ECW talent Chilly Willy. I liked Chilly Willy and thought he had a sort of DLo vibe to him

[Colorado Cajun]

Seems the WWE just signed former ECW talent Chilly Willy. I liked Chilly Willy and thought he had a sort of DLo vibe to him
gah that was me btw. Forgot to sign her out lol

[ChaCho]

is pretty sad how the WWE tries to get money, they are selling now a DVD talking about how ECW started and then went out of business, whats the point on that.

peace :cool:

[IamMrDJ]

is pretty sad how the WWE tries to get money, they are selling now a DVD talking about how ECW started and then went out of business, whats the point on that.

peace :cool:

The DVD is for the ECW fans out there like me who miss it. WWE owns all the archive footage to ECW and owns the name outright. They are not desperate for money they are just giving the die-hard ECW fans what they want. I am getting it as is a few of my frineds because like me they were fans of ECW down to the day they stopped paying wrestlers. Oh sorry they did that before the federation went under, my bad.

[jbailey84]

The DVD is for the ECW fans out there like me who miss it. WWE owns all the archive footage to ECW and owns the name outright. They are not desperate for money they are just giving the die-hard ECW fans what they want. I am getting it as is a few of my frineds because like me they were fans of ECW down to the day they stopped paying wrestlers. Oh sorry they did that before the federation went under, my bad. agree! its about time that they came out with a DVD on ECW. man i miss it so much! i remember one of the first matches i saw was Taz Vs Bam Bam Bigelow. whats great is even though they went out of business, you still here the chants, "ECW! ECW! ECW!" "Holy Sh8t! Holy Sh8t!" "You f8cked up! You f8cked up!" i remember seeing something on the internet few years back on how much Paul Heyman owned the wrestlers, lots of money. but cant wait to get this dvd!:D

[ZombieMan]

Seems the WWE just signed former ECW talent Chilly Willy. I liked Chilly Willy and thought he had a sort of DLo vibe to him

Thats pretty cool. Interesting fact, did anyone here know that he served over in Iraq and was shot in the past year?

[jbailey84]

yeah, i remember reading that somewhere

[beyond_th3]

The DVD is for the ECW fans out there like me who miss it. WWE owns all the archive footage to ECW and owns the name outright. They are not desperate for money they are just giving the die-hard ECW fans what they want. I am getting it as is a few of my frineds because like me they were fans of ECW down to the day they stopped paying wrestlers. Oh sorry they did that before the federation went under, my bad.


I remember back in the days when I woke up in the middle of the night and began channel surfing and found this treasure. ECW was the sickest wrestling promotion ever, man I wish it would have caught on to everyone. I will definitely be getting this DVD. I loved sandman with his beer and his stick, classic and of course sabu and taz.

[glsspder]

I knew i recognized Christ Hemme from somewhere I saw her at E3 this year.

http://e3girls.com/images/E32004%5C397e31.jpg

[IamMrDJ]

Well it looks like Linda Miles was one of the other people released by the WWE.

She has been in the dog house for most of the year. She has not taken wrestling seriously and would miss her training sessions. A recent match was even cut out of an OVW show because it was a mess. Rajah reports that she will not be leaving the wrestling business all together.

[ChaCho]

whoa i never knew there were still ECW fans, i never got to watch ECW, i never felt like it, i used to watch WCW though, that was kind of good, sorry if i offended anyone with my DVD comment.

peace :cool:

[sniktawt]

ECW Was just pure gold !!!

Not a day goes by that I don't miss that.

I still have several of the earlier ECW 1994-97 tapes I ordered from Wrestling mags years ago , they may be videotapes but I'd never part with them , as some of those matches will never be seen again , but Now that Vince has opened his archives die hard fans are now rejoicing.

[Se7en the movie]

I am dying to see the rage in a cage match between Raven and Dreamer. The one with the 'chairshot heard around the world' but you cant get the tape here!

[sniktawt]

PPV is actually pretty good up to this point , Even Taker And Heidenriech put on a great match.

The opening Cruiserweight Match one of the best I have seen for WWE in a long time.

And JR was wrong when he mentioned that the ladies wrestlers made their SS debut at the 1995 Survivor Series , that's wrong they debuted at SS I in 1987 ,
Fabulous Moolah, Rockin' Robin, Velvet McIntyre, & The Jumping Bomb Angels vs. Sherri Martel, Lelani Kai, Judy Martin, Donna Christanello, & Dawn Marie
was the match.

[ChaCho]

Man i havent watched any PPV's since Wrestlemania XX, i wish i could watch Survivor Series but i guess ill watch it from a friend when he tapes it.

peace :cool:

[sniktawt]

Snitsky's cut was nasty.

Damn , I like that guy.

[sniktawt]

For those on Trip's ass for holding guys back , I think that is farthest from the Truth , Putting Randy over tonight Proves that.
Trip's is first class all the way.

Good PPV ...

Some Missteps (Having Carlito dress and do jack **** was dumb) but solid for the most part.

***/*****

[filmstudent04]

what are results so far?

[sniktawt]

here's the results...


To avoid spoilers , I'll post a few links.

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_10761.shtml


http://pwbts.com/messages/95.htm

[IamMrDJ]

Snitsky's cut was nasty.

Damn , I like that guy.

YEah that cut was gruesome. It looked pretty nasty afterwards.

For those on Trip's ass for holding guys back , I think that is farthest from the Truth , Putting Randy over tonight Proves that.
Trip's is first class all the way.

Good PPV ...

Some Missteps (Having Carlito dress and do jack **** was dumb) but solid for the most part.

***/*****

I was very pleased with the PPV. I finished 5-2 for my picks. I agree with you Snik about Triple H putting Randy over big time in this match. It looked Trips was putting Maven over a little bit as well which was a little surprising to me.

I was disappointed with the WOmen's Title match. They built it up so much the last few weeks and then Lita is DQ'd in the first 3 minutes.

[LS2002]

Hey ANybody notice That they were promoting a 24-7 thing. Is that the new WWE wrestling Channel I heard about being put into motion? Showing WWE ECW and WCW matches!

[sniktawt]

It's been on since October , it's a subscription on demand channel , you pay about 6-10 bucks for a month and choose from a block of programming you want to watch.You watch what you want when you want. They add a few new hiours in each week.

http://www.wwe24-7.com/images/logo.jpg
WWE 24/7 Schedule For The Month Of November
Written by Scott Krein on 11/01/2004
Source: WWE.com





The following is what will be airing on WWE 24/7 this month (November), credit to Chris Catanese & PWInsider:

WWE Raw - "Why Bret Why?" - 85 mins
Following the most controversial event in WWE history, Vince McMahon speaks about the incident with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels at Survivor Series in Montreal. Dude Love vs. Rocky Maivia. Sgt. Slaughter confronts DX. Stone Cold and much more.

WWE Boston Garden 86 (2/8/86) - 108 mins
Classic card from Boston Garden in 1986.
- Bruno Sammartino vs. Roddy Piper in a Steel Cage Match.
- Don Muraco vs. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat.
- Randy Savage vs. Tito Santana in an Intercontinental Title Match.
- Hart Foundation and many more in action.

WWE Primetime 5/5/86 - 88mins
Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan host a weekly look at the best in WWE action. Featured wrestlers include The Hart Foundation, the team of King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd, Tony Atlas and the Funk brothers.

From The Vault: Shawn Michaels Part I - 129 mins
The best matches from HBK's career and the stories behind them.
- Rockers vs. Rose and Somers for the AWA Tag Titles.
- Ladder Match vs. Razor Ramon at WrestleMania X.
- Iron Man Championship Match vs. Bret Hart at WrestleMania XII.
All Matches in their entirety.

WWE Survivor Series '90 - 140 mins
WWE Survivor Series '97 Part I - 84 mins
WWE Survivor Series '97 Part II - 89 mins

Hall of Fame - Junkyard Dog - 43 mins
Gene Okerlund hosts a look back at the career of the Junkyard Dog. Classic interviews and matches.
- Intercontinental Title bout vs. Greg Valentine from WrestleMania I.
- Saturday Night's Main Event tag action with Hogan against the Funks.

Junkyard Dog vs. Terry Funk - 6 mins
Junkyard Dog battles hated rival Terry Funk at historic Madison Square Garden.

Saturday Night's Main Event - 66 mins
WWE's brightest stars shine on this Saturday night network hit.
- Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff in a Steel Cage WWE Championship Match.
- George "The Animal" Steele vs. Randy Savage for the Intercontinental Title.
- Junkyard Dog vs Harley Race.

[jbailey84]

well i went 3-4 on my picks, not that bad.

was the beating that Lita gave Trish real bad? i read it @rajah.com and said to myself 'holy sh8t!' but yeah too bad it was in the first few minutes of the match. maybe this feud will last longer. i'll just have to wait for the dvd to come out. i cant wait for the ECW Rise & Fall to be shipped out:D

[jbailey84]

hey dj, you might know this and its been bugging me some. what PPV was it with Jericho Vs Rhyno, when Jericho went to do the lionsault the ropes broke? was it SummerSlam 2001 or a different PPV?

[ChaCho]

Just finished watching the tape of Survivor Series, it was real good, loved the Cruserweight match, as always The Undertaker made killin', Man i wanted Spike to loose that title he so dumn! man, Great victory of Randy Orton, Eddie's Team WHUPPED all over, too bad for RVD, Christian sucks and should retire not even with help he can win, too bad for Booker he did great.

peace :cool:

[Se7en the movie]

Just finished watching the tape of Survivor Series, it was real good, loved the Cruserweight match, as always The Undertaker made killin', Man i wanted Spike to loose that title he so dumn! man, Great victory of Randy Orton, Eddie's Team WHUPPED all over, too bad for RVD, Christian sucks and should retire not even with help he can win, too bad for Booker he did great.

peace :cool:


For one, used spoiler tags. For two Christian is far too young to retire and is probably one of the best on the mic and in the ring on RAW.

[jbailey84]

from Wrestling-online.com newsletter

RAW PPV IN PUERTO RICO IN JANUARY
- It was announced yesterday that a new PPV has joined the WWE calendar
in January apart from the Royal Rumble. On January 9th, the RAW brand
will go to Puerto Rico for the first pay-per-view in the area. The title
of the PPV will be 'New Year’s Revolution.' More information will be
available at a later date.

[IamMrDJ]

from Wrestling-online.com newsletter

RAW PPV IN PUERTO RICO IN JANUARY
- It was announced yesterday that a new PPV has joined the WWE calendar
in January apart from the Royal Rumble. On January 9th, the RAW brand
will go to Puerto Rico for the first pay-per-view in the area. The title
of the PPV will be 'New Year’s Revolution.' More information will be
available at a later date.

WWE had originally wanted the PPV to be on Jan. 2nd but they could not get that date because it was already booked on PPV.

[beyond_th3]

The Triple H and Maven match was good especially the ending, classic flair.

[sniktawt]

This poll was conducted today on WWE.COM
I'm not sure if these people saw the same PPV I did.
But the LITA /Trish match was **** , it wasn't even a match.lol.
How that is leading is beyond me.

What was your favorite championship match at Survivor Series?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Christian vs. Shelton Benjamin 16.60 %
Trish Stratus vs. Lita 33.43 %
JBL vs. Booker T 22.30 %
Fatal Four Way for Cruiserweight Championship 27.65 %

[sniktawt]

well i went 3-4 on my picks, not that bad.

was the beating that Lita gave Trish real bad? i read it @rajah.com and said to myself 'holy sh8t!' but yeah too bad it was in the first few minutes of the match. maybe this feud will last longer. i'll just have to wait for the dvd to come out. i cant wait for the ECW Rise & Fall to be shipped out:D

There was no match , it was an attack by Lita , that's about it.

[filmstudent04]

When all hell was breakin loose on raw tonight...you know who should have really come out to bring things to order.....(glass break) AUSTIN! and he would have came out lookin more pissed than ever! H's face would have been in a state of shock, as the rest of evolutions as well and Orton would have been a lil scared but like glad to see him as well and then BOOM STUNNER on everyone!! and he takes the microphone and says....WHAT!? Im running the asylum now, WHAT? and then it would have gone off air. Thats what should have happened

[sniktawt]

When all hell was breakin loose on raw tonight...you know who should have really come out to bring things to order.....(glass break) AUSTIN! and he would have came out lookin more pissed than ever! H's face would have been in a state of shock, as the rest of evolutions as well and Orton would have been a lil scared but like glad to see him as well and then BOOM STUNNER on everyone!! and he takes the microphone and says....WHAT!? Im running the asylum now, WHAT? and then it would have gone off air. Thats what should have happened



Keep dreaming.;)

[sniktawt]

hey dj, you might know this and its been bugging me some. what PPV was it with Jericho Vs Rhyno, when Jericho went to do the lionsault the ropes broke? was it SummerSlam 2001 or a different PPV?

I think it was one of their Raw or Smackdown ! Matches before Summerslam when They kept claiming Jericho never beat Rhyno.
I know it wasn't Summerslam 2001 , I just watched that again a few weeks ago , great match.

But I do remember the Rope Lionsault incident , but can't place where it took place , I know I have it but It would take a year to go through what I have.

[IamMrDJ]

When all hell was breakin loose on raw tonight...you know who should have really come out to bring things to order.....(glass break) AUSTIN! and he would have came out lookin more pissed than ever! H's face would have been in a state of shock, as the rest of evolutions as well and Orton would have been a lil scared but like glad to see him as well and then BOOM STUNNER on everyone!! and he takes the microphone and says....WHAT!? Im running the asylum now, WHAT? and then it would have gone off air. Thats what should have happened

What would have been really great would have been for the NWO to come down to the ring and say that they are running the Asylum from now on. They would be the new GM's and then every single week they would add another member or two until the entire Raw Roster was a member of some form of the NWO. Orton could run the "Legend Killing NWO". They would go around and beat up the "Old Geezer NWO" Just for clairification the "Old Geezer NWO" would be made up of the original NWO members. :D

[LS2002]

I really doubt that would of happend seeing Hall and Nash are in TNA. As Well as Hogan unless you mean a diffrent kind of NWO

[jbailey84]

What would have been really great would have been for the NWO to come down to the ring and say that they are running the Asylum from now on. They would be the new GM's and then every single week they would add another member or two until the entire Raw Roster was a member of some form of the NWO. Orton could run the "Legend Killing NWO". They would go around and beat up the "Old Geezer NWO" Just for clairification the "Old Geezer NWO" would be made up of the original NWO members. :D lol

[filmstudent04]

nawww i still say it woulda been cool if austin came out or even the rock..or somebody big named and just whooped everyone. NWO is prolly dead...cuz hogans gettin there in his mid 50s and nash and hall are in tna and there gettin old too...and was it just me or did it seem like no one cared if maven would win or not...like he would get pumped up and no one would cheer...maybe he shoulda joined evolution....?

[jbailey84]

the nWo IS dead. why recreate a faction that put a company out of business? as you can tell, it didnt last long in the WWE. i think everyone knew that there is no chance in hell that Maven would beat HHH for the title

[jbailey84]

dont know if anyone has read anything on this, from ewrestlingnews.com

WWE To Sue TNA For Invasion Last Week?

TNA issued the following press release:

WWE SENDS LEGAL WARNING TO TNA

Nashville, TN (November 16, 2004) – World Wrestling Entertainment issued a letter to TNA Entertainment, LLC on November 11th demanding the surrender of video footage shot at Universal Studios on November 10th.

In the document sent by Bella Karakis, Vice President Intellectual Property, WWE informed TNA that in order to avoid any further legal action by WWE, TNA would need to agree not to use the video footage , surrender the video footage to WWE within 7 business days, and sign and return an acknowledgment form.

On November 10, while filming vignettes for TNA’s upcoming pay-per-view, “Turning Point”, TNA Superstars 3 Live Kru, Traci, Abyss and “The Franchise” Shane Douglas attempted to welcome Vince McMahon and WWE talent who were also at Universal Studios taping a commercial. Universal Studios is TNA’s home studio where iMPACT! and Xplosion are taped every week. The TNA Superstars brought cookies and balloons to greet WWE talent and staff who were taking a catering break outside in the common area of the studios.

TNA and the TNA Superstars involved are very disappointed with threats of legal action.

“Competition is great and makes the wrestling category stronger as a whole but obviously we are the only ones who feel that way,” “The Franchise” Shane Douglas said. “We attempted to extend a hand and were disappointed by the treatment we received in our own backyard.”

The alternative for the true wrestling fan, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling prides itself on delivering quality, family programming that is clean, innovative, cutting edge and with the high-risk, high-flying athleticism that TNA Wrestling is known for. Total Nonstop Action Wrestling “iMPACT!” airs Fridays at 3:00 p.m. on FSN (check local listings). TNA “Xplosion” is a syndicated program (check local listings). TNA Wrestling pay-per-views are available on iN DEMAND, DIRECTV, DISH Network, TVN, Viewers Choice Canada, Bell ExpressVu and Shaw Communications. For more information, log on to www.tnawrestling.com."

[ChaCho]

Austin coming back would have been GREAT!, impossible but great.
Maven took the long road, with Evolution he might what have won a title,
do you guys know he has been wrestling for 3 years and he has only won one title, the Hardcore Championship, which is gone now.
TNA......................... to me is just Total Non-stop Ass.

peace :cool:

[IamMrDJ]

I really doubt that would of happend seeing Hall and Nash are in TNA. As Well as Hogan unless you mean a diffrent kind of NWO

I was being 100% Totally Sarcastic. LS you should know that after reading what I said in the NWA thread last week. :)

People need to get over the idea that bringing back Austin or the Rock or the NWO is going to change things. Bringing back past stars that are no longer as good as they use to be is a waste of time and a waste of money for the company.

ChaCho you seem to know about wrestling. The only problem is that you are only 15. I ahve been watching wrestling longer then you have been living as has Snik. We have both seen Wrestling have its ups and downs. LAst week you were mocking WWE for releasing an ECW DVD. You never watched ECW so you never got to see the intensity and creativity in the matches. ECW helped create the Hardcore division in WWE and that was evident by the number of former ECW wrestlers who wore the belt. The belt was dropped tough like the European title because WWE did not know how to handle so many title belts and also that their were not as many wrestlers willing to compete for it like thier was when the title was first instituted. Also, with the brand spilt there would be no way for both shows to have an equal shot atthe belt.

Yes Maven has been wrestling for 3 years and has only won the Hardcore belt but that is because he has only been in wrestling for 3 years. In the past 3 years Maven has missed almost a year due to injury and due to a death in the family. Just because he won Tough Enough does not mean that he is going to win a title right away. Look how long it took Mick Foley or Chris Benoit to win the HEavyweight Title. I will admit though that in the past few days Maven has grown as a wrestler adn he got a lot of help in that area from Triple H. Triple H did a great job on Sunday Night and last night helping to put Maven over in the fan's eyes. The fans were not in the match last night that much because they knew Triple H would retain the title but I watched the entire match and was cheering for Maven because he hit some good spots and because he proved he is not the wrestler that got destroyed by The Undertaker at the Royal Rumble after he first came to WWE.

ChaCho you say that if Maven joined Evolution he might win a title well my question is this. Why would his joining a stable like Evolution help him win a title? Randy Orton won the IC title because of his great talent and skill. He was hated by the crowd and a major heel because he was in Evolution. Other then that Flair and BAtista have won the Tag Titles but never held them for very long. So what I am saying is that being in Evolution would not help Maven win a title (That takes more skill and talent) it would just help him get over with the crown more but in more of a heel fashion.

I would suggest that you check out TNA's Impact ChaCho and also check out the thread we have for them in this forum because you wil see that TNA has got a great amount of Creativity in thier matches and moves (like ECW did) and are furthering thier attempts to become a major competitor with WWE like WCW was back in the 90's.

[filmstudent04]

Dannnnnng, i think there should be a hardcore match between mrdj and chacho....that would be payperview classic match!! Naw but in all seriousness...chacho mr dj here whupped u and told u straight up

[IamMrDJ]

Dannnnnng, i think there should be a hardcore match between mrdj and chacho....that would be payperview classic match!! Naw but in all seriousness...chacho mr dj here whupped u and told u straight up

I Did not whup on him at all. I was directing my comments to everyone but I built off what he had said. He made some great comments, comments that show that he has been watching wrestling for atleast the last few years, the time where wrestling interest has declined with newer fans. I started my commentray based on what you had said last night about Austin coming back. See to me when someone comments on wrestling I like to comment back. When someone brings up a subject I have talked about numerous times and also a subject that is a good one I like to expand my normal commentary and tell it how it is. Snik, knows where I am coming from because he and I have talked about all the subjects brought up time and time again.

[filmstudent04]

okay fine thats cool dude, but hey heres a topic for discussionl...should bret hart come back, and maybe be a manager...cmon that would stir things up totally in wwe. I knowww he cant wrestling cuz of goldberg but he could manage that would be cool...by the way ive been watchin wrestling for a good 5 years now, annd i caught most of the matches when i used to download old matches off kazaa

[IamMrDJ]

okay fine thats cool dude, but hey heres a topic for discussionl...should bret hart come back, and maybe be a manager...cmon that would stir things up totally in wwe. I knowww he cant wrestling cuz of goldberg but he could manage that would be cool...by the way ive been watchin wrestling for a good 5 years now, annd i caught most of the matches when i used to download old matches off kazaa

This is a topic that has been discussed numerous times in this thread. If you were to ask Snik he would say NO. I would have to agree with him. Unlike Snik, I did like Bret Hart growing up even though yes he only had a few moves that he would keep repeating. It is just that Bret Hart will never fill the role of a manager. He will always be a wrestler in the eyes of wrestling fans. In Bret's eyes he will always be a wrestler and being a manager would be like being the next kid in line to tell Santa what you want for X-Mas and then being told that you would not get to talk to him. He would not be happy at all being a manager.

Goldberg is not the only reason that Bret cannot wrestle. A Few years back Bret had a seizure (or stroke, my mind is drawing a blank right now) while riding a bicycle. He pretty much face planted and was told that getting in the ring with the condition doctors found while he was in the hospital that it would be a major risk to his health.

FilmStudent you say you have been watching wrestling for the last 5 years. That goes back to right around the final downfall of WCW. You missed so much wrestling in the 5-7 years before that. Before the NWO or before DX. Before their was a "Stone Cold" Steve Austin or The Rock.


Oh also for anyone out there who is a fan of Shelton Benjamin then I think you should check out this artice that Rajah.com posted a link for. It is not too long but it is a very good read.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003560001-2004531787,00.html

[ChaCho]

See right here the deal is mr.dj thinks hes the **** coz he has watched wrestling for about 15 more years than me, hes probably thinking, ummm the man is 15 he has probably watched wrestling for about two years, well no lil man, i didnt, i own many WWE magazines informing me about it, i have also WWE videos, i have downloaded shows from back in the day, i used to watch wrestling back in 1996 when the Undertaker was old school, almost like now, but i stopped watching it because he left dont remember why. ECW i didnt watch it because i believed it sucked, only about five people from it came out that were good, people like RVD, the Dudleys, Tazz, etc.. so i do know.
TNA i have the right to not like it, i used to watch it a lot because Nash was in it, then when Jeff Hardy came i watched it more, but then... i got bored, because those great wrestlers are wastin their time going there than WWE.
Maven also would have won titles with Evolution, not just because of talent, what kind of role did Randy Orton play back when he wasnt in it..... yeah of a dumbass, he joined Evolution and they gave them a great role, just because he was in Evolution, even Batista, he was nothing before joining now look at him, two time World Tag Team Champion, look at Triple H for being the leader of Evolution, a 9 TIME World Heavyweight Champion, as much as The Rock, and only less than Hogan and Flair. So OBVIOUSLY they were gonna give Maven a good role if he joined.
Also you talking back when there was a Stone Cold, that was around 1996 he came, just like The Rock.
Also that **** about Snik, who is he your master? are you his flunky that you agree with everything he says, man just shut up and dont judge a book by his cover.

peace :cool:

[ChaCho]

Also Maven could have won, even takin that year off, he could have won some small titles like the European at least. look at Brock Lesnar he wrestled for about two years, what happened? THREE TIME WWE CHAMPION!!!!!!
not even The Undertaker or Shawn Michaels did that, so it aint about time, its about the hook ups.

[jbailey84]

See right here the deal is mr.dj thinks hes the **** coz he has watched wrestling for about 15 more years than me, hes probably thinking, ummm the man is 15 he has probably watched wrestling for about two years, well no lil man, i didnt, i own many WWE magazines informing me about it, i have also WWE videos, i have downloaded shows from back in the day, i used to watch wrestling back in 1996 when the Undertaker was old school, almost like now, but i stopped watching it because he left dont remember why.

Also you talking back when there was a Stone Cold, that was around 1996 he came, just like The Rock.
Also that **** about Snik, who is he your master? are you his flunky that you agree with everything he says, man just shut up and dont judge a book by his cover ooh i'd watch it, DJ & Snik know alot and you just might have had ingited the match.

and the thing about Lesnar being a 3 time champ within 2 years is they gave him a huge push, alittle too huge.

[ChaCho]

exactly he had the hook ups,
mr dj knows a lot, and?.........
what is he gonna do this is the
internet he cant do nothing, let me
have it in the internet wow.

[IamMrDJ]

See right here the deal is mr.dj thinks hes the **** coz he has watched wrestling for about 15 more years than me, hes probably thinking, ummm the man is 15 he has probably watched wrestling for about two years, well no lil man, i didnt, i own many WWE magazines informing me about it, i have also WWE videos, i have downloaded shows from back in the day, i used to watch wrestling back in 1996 when the Undertaker was old school, almost like now, but i stopped watching it because he left dont remember why. ECW i didnt watch it because i believed it sucked, only about five people from it came out that were good, people like RVD, the Dudleys, Tazz, etc.. so i do know.
TNA i have the right to not like it, i used to watch it a lot because Nash was in it, then when Jeff Hardy came i watched it more, but then... i got bored, because those great wrestlers are wastin their time going there than WWE.
Maven also would have won titles with Evolution, not just because of talent, what kind of role did Randy Orton play back when he wasnt in it..... yeah of a dumbass, he joined Evolution and they gave them a great role, just because he was in Evolution, even Batista, he was nothing before joining now look at him, two time World Tag Team Champion, look at Triple H for being the leader of Evolution, a 9 TIME World Heavyweight Champion, as much as The Rock, and only less than Hogan and Flair. So OBVIOUSLY they were gonna give Maven a good role if he joined.
Also you talking back when there was a Stone Cold, that was around 1996 he came, just like The Rock.
Also that **** about Snik, who is he your master? are you his flunky that you agree with everything he says, man just shut up and dont judge a book by his cover.

peace :cool:


ooh i'd watch it, DJ & Snik know alot and you just might have had ingited the match.

and the thing about Lesnar being a 3 time champ within 2 years is they gave him a huge push, alittle too huge.

Ding Ding Ding. I just heard the bell and ChaCho seems to have thrown the first punch. Seeing as you think you know what you are talking about I will give you the benefit of the doubt but I will give you a little lesson as well here.

First here is a list of some ECW Alumni. I am sure you have heard of a few of them and probably think that some of them are pretty good too. The thing is that you didn't know that they started in ECW before joined WWE or even WCW.

Terry Funk, Tito Santana, Dick Murdock, J.T. Smith, Jimmy Snuka, Don Muraco, Eddie Gilbert, Bam Bam Bigelow, Kevin Sullivan, Johnny Smith, Dark Patriot, Johnny Hotbody, Rockin' Rebel, Steve Austin, Mick Foley, Chris Candido, Dean Malenko, Eddy Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman, Too Cold Scorpio, Mike Awesome, Raven, Pitbull #1, Pitbull #2, Masato Tanaka, Taz, Jerry Lynn, Chris Candido, Lance Storm, Shane Douglas, Mikey Whipwreck, Brian Lee, Al Snow, Sabu, Rob Van Dam, Blue Meanie, Stevie Richards, Mustapha Saed, New Jack, John Kronus, Perry Saturn, Bubba Dudley, DVon Dudley, Big Dick Dudley, Spike Dudley, Yoshihiro Tajiri, Super Crazy, Kid Kash, Nova, Little Guido, Tracy Smothers, Tommy Rich, Tony Mamaluke, Christian York, Joey Matthews, Danny Doring, Roadkill, Sid Vicious, Balls Mahoney, Jack Victory, C.W. Anderson, DeVito, Angel, Vic Grimes, Rhino, Steve Corino, Justin Credible, Simon Diamond, Johnny Swinger, Brian Pillman, The Ruffneck, Tommy Rogers, EZ Money, Julio Dinero, Chris Hamrick, Chris Chetti, Prodigette, Miss Peaches, Woman, Chastity, Lady Alexander, Elektra, Jasmine St Claire, Miss Congeniality (Lita), Jenna Jameson, Stephanie Bellars, Jazz, Beulah, Francine, Dawn Marie, Tammy Sytch, Kimona

Second, Nash has not been in TNA for very long he was just recently signed by them. JEff JArrett has been running it the last couple of years and during that time NAsh was under contract with WWE, so I don't really know what NAsh you are talking about besides the Diesel Truck Kevin Nash.

Now after reading through this if you would like another lesson in Wrestling 101 I would be glad to give it to you. Because I have been watching wrestling since before 1996 and I have been a fan of all the different promotions that I have come in contact with because even if you do not make it in to the WWE you can still be a big star and have a large following. If you don't take a look at other promotions and give them a shot you are gonna miss out on some great up and coming talent i.e. Petey Williams in TNA.

[Colorado Cajun]

See right here the deal is mr.dj thinks hes the **** coz he has watched wrestling for about 15 more years than me, hes probably thinking, ummm the man is 15 he has probably watched wrestling for about two years, well no lil man, i didnt, i own many WWE magazines informing me about it, i have also WWE videos, i have downloaded shows from back in the day, i used to watch wrestling back in 1996 when the Undertaker was old school, almost like now, but i stopped watching it because he left dont remember why. ECW i didnt watch it because i believed it sucked, only about five people from it came out that were good, people like RVD, the Dudleys, Tazz, etc.. so i do know.
TNA i have the right to not like it, i used to watch it a lot because Nash was in it, then when Jeff Hardy came i watched it more, but then... i got bored, because those great wrestlers are wastin their time going there than WWE.
Maven also would have won titles with Evolution, not just because of talent, what kind of role did Randy Orton play back when he wasnt in it..... yeah of a dumbass, he joined Evolution and they gave them a great role, just because he was in Evolution, even Batista, he was nothing before joining now look at him, two time World Tag Team Champion, look at Triple H for being the leader of Evolution, a 9 TIME World Heavyweight Champion, as much as The Rock, and only less than Hogan and Flair. So OBVIOUSLY they were gonna give Maven a good role if he joined.
Also you talking back when there was a Stone Cold, that was around 1996 he came, just like The Rock.
Also that **** about Snik, who is he your master? are you his flunky that you agree with everything he says, man just shut up and dont judge a book by his cover.

peace :cool:

Dude what the hell are you talking about? Please get some facts down before you open your mouth. ECW was huge and had some of the greatest talent ever to wrestle start there. DJ gave you the list and if you don't think that's impressive than you should not even speak. It would've become tied if not more big than the WWE if Heyman would've ran it better

Batista was a huge star in OVW for quite awhile before he joined the WWE. That's why he was put in Evolution and given title runs

There was no way in hell Maven would've been given any title because he wasn't ready and onlt had like five moves total. He's gotten better but has a damn long way to go before he holds any title

As for Tna it has it's ups and downs like any fed, but they have some damn good talent there in guys like Raven, AJ, XXX, Petey Williams, Chris Sabin, Amazing Red, The Truth and Hardy to just name a few

[jbailey84]

has anyone gotten the ECW dvd yet? i'm waiting to get mine from amazon

[IamMrDJ]

^^^ YEah I got mine on Tuesday form BEst Buy. It came with an RVD Figure. I have not had anytime to watch it yet. I am gonna see if I can watch a little of it tonight.

[filmstudent04]

This is a topic that has been discussed numerous times in this thread. If you were to ask Snik he would say NO. I would have to agree with him. Unlike Snik, I did like Bret Hart growing up even though yes he only had a few moves that he would keep repeating. It is just that Bret Hart will never fill the role of a manager. He will always be a wrestler in the eyes of wrestling fans. In Bret's eyes he will always be a wrestler and being a manager would be like being the next kid in line to tell Santa what you want for X-Mas and then being told that you would not get to talk to him. He would not be happy at all being a manager.

Goldberg is not the only reason that Bret cannot wrestle. A Few years back Bret had a seizure (or stroke, my mind is drawing a blank right now) while riding a bicycle. He pretty much face planted and was told that getting in the ring with the condition doctors found while he was in the hospital that it would be a major risk to his health.

FilmStudent you say you have been watching wrestling for the last 5 years. That goes back to right around the final downfall of WCW. You missed so much wrestling in the 5-7 years before that. Before the NWO or before DX. Before their was a "Stone Cold" Steve Austin or The Rock.
Oh also for anyone out there who is a fan of Shelton Benjamin then I think you should check out this artice that Rajah.com posted a link for. It is not too long but it is a very good read.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003560001-2004531787,00.html

I would have to say that even though, ive watched wwe for a good five years, i would have to agree with cho on the fact that i feel it doesnt matter how lonnnng youve watched wrestling...i dont feel that determines how much you know. Magazines, taped ppv's, downloaded matches, internet sites, and other various inforation can inform a person a lotttt about wrestling...and ya sure i might have missed some of the shows back "in the day" when wrestling was at its peak...but idk man i just dont like that statement of "ohh ive watched wrestling for this many years so therefore i know everything there is to know about it"...although i will say cho that the things you did say were a little below the belt(no pun intended) and that i mean i think its funny to read, well because you are right there really isnt much dj can do except diss you online..but oooh boy i do agree that you prolly should have shown more knowledge of the sport if you wanted to try n diss dj...just my opinion which is what these forums are about

[IamMrDJ]

I would have to say that even though, ive watched wwe for a good five years, i would have to agree with cho on the fact that i feel it doesnt matter how lonnnng youve watched wrestling...i dont feel that determines how much you know. Magazines, taped ppv's, downloaded matches, internet sites, and other various inforation can inform a person a lotttt about wrestling...and ya sure i might have missed some of the shows back "in the day" when wrestling was at its peak...but idk man i just dont like that statement of "ohh ive watched wrestling for this many years so therefore i know everything there is to know about it"...although i will say cho that the things you did say were a little below the belt(no pun intended) and that i mean i think its funny to read, well because you are right there really isnt much dj can do except diss you online..but oooh boy i do agree that you prolly should have shown more knowledge of the sport if you wanted to try n diss dj...just my opinion which is what these forums are about

YEs your right a person can learn a lot about wrestling by reading on the internet, reading magazines, watching taped PPV's or downloading matches but what I am trying to get across is that you will never truly understand the ups and downs that WWE and other federations have had unless you goback and watch all that you can and read up on it. I do not know all thier is about Wrestling and I never will but for the last 19 years it has been a huge part of my life. I have written numerous high school adn college reports on professional wrestling. I have met wrestlers here and there. I got to talk to Vader a couple years back up in Boulder where he lives.

Your right I cannot really do anything to you because this is the internet but just to let you know. People have tried to confront Snik or Jbailey or Cajun or myself about wrestling and they have been shot down. For alot of people that post in this thread WWE is something they have followed for a long time. And for someone to come in here and try to proclaim they know how WWE can fix itself right now by going back to using Austin or The Rock they will get shot down time and time again. We have talked about it numerous times in here before and it is not going to change our opinions if someone new brings up the topic again and thinks they know what is right.

The WWE is run by a family and here on CS the WWE Thread is run by a family of Wrestling Fans. It just so happens that Cajun is the Red-Headed Stepchild we always try to lose. J/K :D

[filmstudent04]

i agree with you on that yes in order to rebuild they(wwe) need to create new icons. The austin comment was pretty much just a dream. I do feel however, that many fans wish it was like it used to be back a few years ago with many great superstars, but i do feel that wwe is tryin to step in teh right direction for now...

[chewie]

So who do you guys think will be GM this coming Monday?

[IamMrDJ]

I am thinking that it will be JEricho. I think that they are going in order of who is higher-up on the wrestling food chain. Maven was last week, Y2J this coming week, BEnoit the following week and then Orton. Oh it is rumored that Orton will have Triple H face Batista during his week since he cannot put himself in a match against Triple H.

[jbailey84]

that will be interesting. i truely think Batista needs a bigger push. like ive said earlier in the pages, just give him more character and he could be better than he his.

[chewie]

You know Jericho and Benoit will give both themselves title shots. Neither of them will win though. Of course Benoit might be so mad at Edge right now that he might make a match with him. Who's higher up on the food chain now though. Jericho laster longer at Survivor Series. They're both pretty equal in my eyes.

[carnage4u]

i hope for the day Triple HHH stops wrestling as i am so sick of him as world champ. its just a waste of time, and his day has come,, and it left.. I wish he would go with it.

I do hope TNA gets a little better just to give some good competition to wwe, i belive we are getting its next PPV here just to see if its any good.

anyway. my random thoughts

--wrestling fan of 12 years, but dont have time to post more

[LS2002]

You know I think it would be Interesting if Orton made a Triple Threat Match for HHH vs Edge vs Snitsky!

[carnage4u]

Am i the only one that finds snitsky lame? maybe i'm just mad they had to put another nail in kanes coffin to put snitsky over,

orton i still enjoy, but seriouslly no more HHH on tv. he needs a nice month off.

[IamMrDJ]

Am i the only one that finds snitsky lame? maybe i'm just mad they had to put another nail in kanes coffin to put snitsky over,

orton i still enjoy, but seriouslly no more HHH on tv. he needs a nice month off.

They didn't put a nail in Kane's Coffin to put Gene over. The reason they had Gene bloody Kane like that was that they needed a reason for Kane to be off TV for a couple months while he is off filming a WWE Produced Movie. Since Matt HArdy was out because of surgery they had to find a replacement to fit in the feud adn they were looking for a way to bring Gene in so they just killed 2 birds with one stone.

As for Triple H, he did have a month off earlier this year when he was off filming his part in Blade: Trinity and meeting with other Movie Execs. During that time Raw saw a drop in ratings. As soon as Triple H came back the ratings went back up. Triple H is a great backstage presence right now and over the last 6 months has grown more mature in how he deals with younger talent. Benjamin was traded to Raw and after heeling from his injuries was given a push. HE was not well received by all the fans right away but after he had two great matches with Triple H that he won he was over with the crowd more then he ever was as a Tag Team wrestler.

Some people were upset when Triple H beat Orton and won the title back after Orton only had it for a month. But, the WWE had good reasoning behind it adn it was not on Triple H's suggestion. The next PPV following Triple H's title win was the first ever Taboo Tuesday where the title match would be booked on the fly. WWE was concerned that Orton might not be able to handle the pressure of a match that would be on the fly. They also thought that Orton was not quite over totally as a face yet with the crowd. They had him lose the title and they decided to give him the role of the Title Chaser. Orton is now in the role where he is always inches away form the title but just does not get it. All the while, he is building fan support so that when he goes in for his next title match which I am predicting to either be at Rumble or Mania he will have full crowd support and should be a lock to win the title.

Chewie, Y2J did last longer then Benoit but in a way so did Maven. :)

[carnage4u]

I do know why Kane left for the month, I just have been unhappy the way his character has been going for a while. The whole losing baby thing I was hoping would make him a true "Monster" and not just some pushover monster

Triple HHH does help rating, howerver I dont know anyone that is a die hard fan that likes him.

its like most top dogs really.

I cheered for Triple HHH when less did, then was happy when he was the main dog, then it just kept going and going


now its like.

oh look. triple HHH is world champ again. or how exciting.... i know the general crowd dig it , but it hurts my brain.


I understand your logic, and its nice to see a thread where people are a bit in touch. I spent a lot of time going around reading various sites, but been on this forum for a while and didnt even notice this thread until a day or two ago.

[IamMrDJ]

Triple HHH does help rating, howerver I dont know anyone that is a die hard fan that likes him.

I understand your logic, and its nice to see a thread where people are a bit in touch. I spent a lot of time going around reading various sites, but been on this forum for a while and didnt even notice this thread until a day or two ago.

Oh I am a huge fan of Triple H and have been for quite sometime. HHH and HBK are still 2 of my favorite wrestlers of all-time. Every single match they go out and give it thier all.

I am glad you found this thread. I hope you enjoy posting in it. We need another Veteran Fan around here. :)

[jbailey84]

Triple HHH does help rating, howerver I dont know anyone that is a die hard fan that likes him.

I spent a lot of time going around reading various sites, but been on this forum for a while and didnt even notice this thread until a day or two ago. one of my good friends Drew is a huge HHH fan. i like HHH, he's somewhere on my top 15. when i went to that House Show in Waco in September, HHH looked great the belt around his waist. it fits him perfect.

and welcome to the WWE Thread :)

[ChaCho]

i aint gonna deny it, mr. dj knows a heck lot of wrestling, more than i do obviously, but i dont think is fair that i get dissed just beacause i post some opinion on this thread, not even an opinion, a fantasy, all i said it would have been cool if stone cold came out and raised hell, i read on some website a friend told me, and it said that stone cold was thinking of coming back, but that right now he is VERY sick, i dunno if its true im just sayin, also if i didnt like ECW and if i dont like TNA you know is my opinion, ECW you all saw great things on it, i just didnt, i didnt feel what i feel when i watch a real good match in the WWE, TNA, TNA is DEFINITELY gonna be something great one day, not now, but is gonna be thats fo' sho', now mr. dj u know 19 years is a lot, longer than MANY superstars' carrers, but you gotta chill it with the attitude, now lets just keep it cool.

Kane i heard somewhere that he is not thinking of getting his contratc renewed, he is thinking of retiring for a while, anyone knows anything about it?

peace :cool:

[IamMrDJ]

i aint gonna deny it, mr. dj knows a heck lot of wrestling, more than i do obviously, but i dont think is fair that i get dissed just beacause i post some opinion on this thread, not even an opinion, a fantasy, all i said it would have been cool if stone cold came out and raised hell, i read on some website a friend told me, and it said that stone cold was thinking of coming back, but that right now he is VERY sick, i dunno if its true im just sayin, also if i didnt like ECW and if i dont like TNA you know is my opinion, ECW you all saw great things on it, i just didnt, i didnt feel what i feel when i watch a real good match in the WWE, TNA, TNA is DEFINITELY gonna be something great one day, not now, but is gonna be thats fo' sho', now mr. dj u know 19 years is a lot, longer than MANY superstars' carrers, but you gotta chill it with the attitude, now lets just keep it cool.

Kane i heard somewhere that he is not thinking of getting his contratc renewed, he is thinking of retiring for a while, anyone knows anything about it?

peace :cool:

I will tell you something I learned growing up adn still remember to this day. To Get Respect You Have To Show It and Earn It. I have earned my respect around here and in the process I have showed it to a large number of my fellow posters.

If you want me to respect you then I would stop posting stuff like this.

Also that **** about Snik, who is he your master? are you his flunky that you agree with everything he says, man just shut up and dont judge a book by his cover.

If you would look around and maybe read some old posts in this thread you would realize that Snik does his wrestling as well and he has a good following of frineds around here that will not stand for people bashing him.

[IamMrDJ]

OK so I jsut finished the 1st Disc of the WWE - Rise and Fall of ECW DVD. It clcoked in at 2 hours and 50 minutes of footage and interviews. After watching it I miss ECW so much. I still have the second disc to watch which has full-length matches on it. I have already started searching online for old ECW PPV DVD's. I had some old PPV's on tape but they disappeared while I was away at College 4 years ago.

If anyone is or was at one time a fan of ECW then check out the DVD. There was a few things that I did not even know about that I learned from the DVD.

[filmstudent04]

Hey does any one have ne word on HBK lately...and cho buddy just cool it man...listen to carlito's advice, be cool. Mrdj knows his stuff, now just show that u know ur stuff and he'll be cool wit u...i do agree wit ya though, woulda been cool if austin made an appearance.

[IamMrDJ]

HBK will be out for a little while longer. HE is still nursing the injury he got the night before Taboo Tuesday. He did re-sign his contract this summer and is signed with WWE through next December. At that point he will decide whether or not to hang up the boots. I have a feeling if he does retire from the ring Vince will have a job waiting for him in the company should HBK ever want one. HBK also always given it his all in the ring and even after all of his injuries he is still one of the best wrestlers in the ring and on the mic.

[filmstudent04]

ya i agree, buut...my friends and i have debated on whether or not he should still call himself the heartbreak kid...cuz well think about it he's not reallly a kid ne more and he's married and is a born again christian i mean he's not really breakin ne hearts...at least not like he used to

[LS2002]

Anybody have a guess on who will be the GMthis week? I think it will either be Jericho or Benoit. They will save Orton for last.

[ChaCho]

aiight mr. dj i know it was real stupid to make that comment of Snik, i was just mad as hell, i apologize to you and him.
HBK is like an icon, is like by what Shawn represents himself you know, as a kid who could break any woman's heart, why? he is a kid, look at his entrance is so charismatic, so him, and a heartbreak coz admit it, the man is a pimp.

peace :cool:

[ChaCho]

Also, now to start this, Armaggedon is here already, and a great match has been put up, Fatal-Four-Way for the WWE Championship, JBL, Eddie Guerrero, Booker T, and The Undertaker.
What's your picks on this one?

peace :cool:

[sniktawt]

I love JBL but Eddie's winning it back.
Taker and Booker are crap imo.

[sniktawt]

aiight mr. dj i know it was real stupid to make that comment of Snik, i was just mad as hell, i apologize to you and him.


When did you make a comment about me ? :confused: :confused:

[IamMrDJ]

When did you make a comment about me ? :confused: :confused:

Snik he said this about a page or so ago.

Also that **** about Snik, who is he your master? are you his flunky that you agree with everything he says, man just shut up and dont judge a book by his cover.

[sniktawt]

Oh , I so missed that.
I'm slipping in my old age.
I won't touch that one , it's too easy.;)

[carnage4u]

My work schedule is keeping me late for the next few weeks, so im going to be missings all the shows until janurary, which sucks with all the current sillyness going on with GMS and such.

[beyond_th3]

HBK will be out for a little while longer. HE is still nursing the injury he got the night before Taboo Tuesday. He did re-sign his contract this summer and is signed with WWE through next December. At that point he will decide whether or not to hang up the boots. I have a feeling if he does retire from the ring Vince will have a job waiting for him in the company should HBK ever want one. HBK also always given it his all in the ring and even after all of his injuries he is still one of the best wrestlers in the ring and on the mic.


I agree with you 100% dj. I think HBK is, was, and will be one of the greatest in ring and out of ring performers to ever live.

[ChaCho]

Shawn Michaels is just a ShowStopper, no doubt, also I read around that Bret Hart ain't coming back, that he doesn't want to, because of something Goldberg did, i don't know nothing about it, can any of the old watchers tell me whats that situation?, because i heard in some time now that he was thinkng of going to TNA.

peace :cool:

[jbailey84]

shawn michaels is indeed one of the greatest. he's been loyal to the WWE since the 80's correct? sorry about the quality from my webcam, but here's his autograpgh and a pic when i met him in San Antonio, TX in August 1996. it was 3 days before SummerSlam when he was facing Vader in the Main Event.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/jbailey84/Picture38.jpg

and the coolest wrestler that i had ever met, Rhyno. was Feb 2002 in Abilene, TX. he had just recovered from his neck injury i believe. it was really cool talking to him about ECW and when he joined the WWF/E. funny when i walked up to where he was sitting, he saw my shirt and said "oh hell yeah! ECW! ECW! ECW!" truely a great moment in my life meeting a wrestler.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/jbailey84/Picture40.jpg

i have more and will post later sometime :D

[ChaCho]

Rhyno is great, and now with Tajiri as his partner it's great, but shouldnt they give him a good role, i mean Rhyno has done great entertaiment for the business?

peace :cool:

[jbailey84]

Rhyno is a great wrestler. wish he had been more of "The Man Beast" like in ECW.

so far in the WWE he's been a WCW US Champ(before WWE brought it back) & 3 time Hardcore Champ respectively(didn't get pinned alot with the 24/7 rule). he and Tajiri do make a pretty good tag team. hope they get the titles:D

[ilovecandace]

i think that orton should get over loosing his title


I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING THE SAME PPL GO FOR THE BELTS IT GETS ON MY NERVES

[IamMrDJ]

i think that orton should get over loosing his title


I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING THE SAME PPL GO FOR THE BELTS IT GETS ON MY NERVES

:confused: :confused: :confused:

What do you mean you are tired of the same people going for the belts? They have changed it up quite a bit in the last 6-9 months.

Orton got his first World Title Shot at SummerSlam. Benoit got his first LEgit shot at the title last March. Shelton Benjamin got his first shot at the IC title early in the summer and was then out injured for a few months. In the past there have been a number of wrestlers who get a title shot on a regular basis like HBK. But you cannot tell me that HBK does not put on one hell of a match every single time. I mean the guy put on a great match at Taboo Tuesday (where fans picked him to go for the title) while being injured.

[ilovecandace]

i can understand what ur saying i hardly get to watch but evertime i see
it i see the same guys going for maybe its just me

[ilovecandace]

wtf

[Colorado Cajun]

I so want to see Batista and HHH be the last ones in the battle royale and then HHH screw Batista over which sets Batista off for good and breaks Evolution. Batista is too damn good to still be under HHH

[filmstudent04]

so ortons gonna be the gm next week, wow they save jericho for last...pretty smart i would say jericho needs to get back in the mix a little bit. And who else knew that the whole batista hhh bit was gonna be a fluke...saw that comin as soon as h came out. woulda been really cool tho, and a sudden change.

[Inval1d]

the WWE NFL commercial was hilarious

[LS2002]

I so want to see Batista and HHH be the last ones in the battle royale and then HHH screw Batista over which sets Batista off for good and breaks Evolution. Batista is too damn good to still be under HHH


Actually here is what I think will happen. HHH and Batista will be the last 2 in the ring. HHH will smile and tell batista to walk over the top rope and elimanate himself. HHH turns around in victory and as he turns around he is met by a clothesline.

[ilovecandace]

that would be nice to see but i would'nt mind seeingsomeone like and unkown win it then loose it the next week to chris jericho it would be cool

[chewie]

Hopefully they let this match go on for a bit and not make it 20 minutes like other Battle Royals on RAW in the past. When was the last time somebody has dropped the world title on RAW? It's been quite a while. They need to start doing that once in a while so the matches aren't so predictable.

[Inval1d]

my theory is either Batista will turn/ HHH will win / or Edge would win (rough guess seeing how he wants it so bad.)

[ChaCho]

i have two predictions, one Batista turns on HHH, becuase on Monday at the end he didnt like the comment about that he should have beaten Jericho, thats one, or two, HHH keeps the title and looses it to HBK on the Royal Rumble. Lets see what happpens.

peace :cool:

[ilovecandace]

u know jeff hardy needs to come back so him and his bro can be partenrers again and then they need to bring in sting

[IamMrDJ]

u know jeff hardy needs to come back so him and his bro can be partenrers again and then they need to bring in sting

Oh Yippie another Jeff "I'm Not a Druggie" Hardy fan. Jeff will not be returning to the WWE anytime soon. First, he has a contract with TNA right now. Second, he will not be welcomed back to the WWE until he admits that he has a drug problem and enters rehab. That is why he was let go in the first place. Jeff also has no interest in returning to the WWE right now even though MAtt and Lita are both there.

As for Sting, he has said on numerous occasions that he is not interested in signing a long term contract with any organization right now and is more interested in spending time with his family. Sting is also getting up thier in age and would just be another Goldberg to the WWE. Yes he was a big time star but guess what that was almost 4 years ago. Sting is not what the WWE needs. It has been stated in this thread numerous times and even a few times in the last couple of weeks, the WWE needs to stop looking to what worked in the past and move forward developing what talent they have now and look for new up and coming talent that will be the superstars of tomorrow.

[slinger]

Hopefully they let this match go on for a bit and not make it 20 minutes like other Battle Royals on RAW in the past. When was the last time somebody has dropped the world title on RAW? It's been quite a while. They need to start doing that once in a while so the matches aren't so predictable.

Austin vs Angle during the Invasion mess. Well something will happen next week, but chances are that HHH will end up with the title soon but that would allow a Orton/HHH match since their deal is only for this current title reign. correct?
They have a tough taske of making HHH lasting 20 guys and not look too stupid.

[Sparta*]

Undertaker was awesome

[Sparta*]

I remember old school wrestling, with like, tatanka, and doink, and yokozuna hahaha

[Sparta*]

that was good times

[Colorado Cajun]

Hey now DJ I'm still a Jeff fan even if he's not quite his old self. He's still one of the coolest and most down to earth people i've ever met and can still get it done in the ring. I just wish he'd get completely clean and regain his old passion

STING is was and always will be STING!! The greatest to ever set foot inside a ring imo. He did things that had never been done before and was always entertaining even when not saying a word. He could still be a huge draw if signed by Vince. Of course Steve would never sign

[ChaCho]

I saw Sting wrestle a couple of times in WCW, he was really good, it would be nice to see him in the WWE, Jeff Hardy...... in my opinion he is the craziest acrobat in the WWE, if there was a list of the craziest wrestlers in the WWE i say he goes up to number two, number one being Mick Foley of course, he did crazy things on the legendary TLC's, it would be great to see Team Extreme come back, man........ that would really turn it for many of the WWE tag teams, like La resistance, Rhyno and Hurricane, now imagine this match, the Hardy Boyz vs. RVD and Rey Mysterio. just wow.

[ilovecandace]

i agree BY THE WAY jeff hardy's contract ends with the tna after he looses his belt and there have been rumours that he will return when matt comes back and i also read some where that Kuergen the intergater will return sometime next yr and aslo that kane will be on smackdown and jbl will end upon raw to reunite with farooq i read it in a maganzine that my brother gets and they predict alot of stuff in there and they also have a rumour mill that comes true most of the time

[jbailey84]

from Rajah.com on Upcoming Rob Van Dam DVD The following information is for the new RVD DVD that is set to be released by the WWE in January. Here is what the promotional materials for the DVD state:

“There’s nobody in sports entertainment like Rob Van Dam. Period. Opponents and fans alike expect the unexpected when the self-proclaimed “Whole F’n Show” strikes with his high-flying, martial arts-based style.

Follow his amazing career on this 2-disc, 6-hour journey from WCW, to ECW, and finally, WWE, with 16 complete matches, hosted and introduced by RVD himself. Plus…over an hour of bonus features, interviews, promos and more. RVD truly is ONE OF A KIND.”

The complete match listing for the DVD set features:

*Robby V vs. Pat Rose
(WCW Saturady Night 23/01/93) - Van Dam’s WCW debut

*Robby V vs. Scotty Flamingo (aka Raven)
(WCW Worldwide 08/02/93)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Axl Rotten
(ECW Hardcore TV 05/01/96) - Van Dam’s ECW debut

*Rob Van Dam vs. Sabu
(ECW Hostile City Showdown 20/04/96)

Rob Van Dam vs. Sabu - Extreme Death Match
(ECW Hardcore Heaven 22/06/96)

*Sabu & Rob Van Dam vs. The Eliminators
(ECW Crossing The Line 01/02/97)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Lance Storm - Van Dam’s PPV debut
(ECW Barely Legal PPV 13/04/97)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Jeff Hardy
(Raw 12/05/97)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer - Flag Match
(ECW November to Remember PPV 30/11/97)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Bam Bam Bigelow - ECW World TV championship win
(ECW Hardcore TV 04/04/98)

*ECW World Television champion Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn
(ECW Living Dangerously PPV 21/03/99)

*ECW World Television champion vs. Balls Mahoney
(ECW Anarchy Rulz PPV 16/09/99)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn - Final ECW PPV
(ECW Guilty as Charged 07/01/01)

Rob Van Dam vs. Jeff Hardy
(WWE Invasion PPV 22/07/01)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Chris Jericho
(WWE King of the Ring PPV 23/06/02)

*Rob Van Dam vs. Christian - Ladder Match
(Raw 29/09/03)


i did not know that he started out in WCW

[IamMrDJ]

i agree BY THE WAY jeff hardy's contract ends with the tna after he looses his belt and there have been rumours that he will return when matt comes back and i also read some where that Kuergen the intergater will return sometime next yr and aslo that kane will be on smackdown and jbl will end upon raw to reunite with farooq i read it in a maganzine that my brother gets and they predict alot of stuff in there and they also have a rumour mill that comes true most of the time

That would be interesting having JBL on Raw to re-team with Farooq but that would mean they would have to re-hire Ron Simmons back. They fired ROn earlier this year because he was going around backstage telling people that he was in charge of the SmackDown Locker Room. Ron will not be getting in to a ring anytime soon anyways because he is so beat up on the inside. Before he was fired he was going to be hired as a road agent and retire from the ring.

Like I said before Jeff will not be welcomed back by Vince or the WWE until he admits he has a drug problem and gets help. The WWE has told him that they will pay for the rehab he just needs to admit to having a problem. Jeff has stood his ground since being fired from the WWE that he has no such problem. So your Theory of Jeff returning when Matt does is a ways off. Also, what belt are you talking about that Jeff will lose before his contract ends. The guy has no belt right now and has not had a belt around his waist since his WWE days.

As for Kurragn whose real name is Robert Maillet, he has been off of the Wrestling Radar for close to 3 years now. He was last heard from back in 2001 touring with Real Action Wrestling in Eastern Canada as The Acadian Giant.

CC, I know you are a big Jeff fan and I would never disrespect you because you know what you are talking about around here. You also know that Jeff needs to get help in order to return to who he once was in the WWE.

[IamMrDJ]

from Rajah.com on Upcoming Rob Van Dam DVD

i did not know that he started out in WCW

Yeah he only lasted about a year or so before heading to Japan. He did not agree with the booking and the new rules they had enlisted at the time.

[ilovecandace]

what the3 **** man i know WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT SO SHUT UP jeff hardy does hasa drug problem u can tell he has changed so much since being in the wwe/wwf he looks high everytime he wrestles now

[IamMrDJ]

what the3 **** man i know WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT SO SHUT UP jeff hardy does hasa drug problem u can tell he has changed so much since being in the wwe/wwf he looks high everytime he wrestles now

All I can say to that is...

WHAT???

[ilovecandace]

im just yapping my mouth....i mean typing

[Colorado Cajun]

ok here is what I think would really make the WWE good again

Have Batista actually beat HHH do to him being talked down to by HHH the entire show. Then it'll come down to HHH, Batista and Edge in the battle royale. HHH tells Batista to help him eliminate Edge. Batista acts like he is going to help HHH, but then moves out of the way as Edge spears the hell out of Trips. Batista then nails Trips with a powerbomb and tosses him over the top. He and Edge then go at it with Batista finally eliminating Edge and becoming the new Raw Champion.

Then HHH loses it on Flair who just shoves him away and walks off. HHH then is shunned for the next few weeks and loses to his various opponents. This goes on for like a month or so until HHH looks like he's about to have a breakdown and lose all face with everyone. Then to save any power he has he calls up the one man who has more history with him than anyone and asks him to help. The Next week on Raw the show starst off with Evolution's theme and out comes a very confident HHH who says he has finally found someone he can trust, and someone who can match his greatness and not let him down. Someone who has been through it all in the last year and who had his career nearly ended by a monster. A man who has held almost as much gold as he himself has and who can help him take over Raw once more. Just as the fans begin to chant HBK...HBK Matt Hardy's new music hits and out he comes. Matt then rants about how he's tired of always being let down by those he though loved him. How he has learned that no one can be trusted and that to succeed you have to take what is yours. He then rips on Jef fand Lita and vows to never be hurt again. HH then states that there is another member of Evolution who has proved himself for the last few months. A man who has left nothing but destruction since his arrival. HHH and Matt then call out Snitsky to take his official place in the New Evolution. Then when he's ready to fully return a heel HBK would join as well and you'd have a very entertaining and well put together faction again.

As for Batista he would win the title in the Battle Royale and finally break free and become the dominate force he is with Flair by his side. He would feud with Edge and Jericho for the Championship for a few months

Orton would be all over HHH for losing and feud with him and a returning heel HBK

Kane returns to pick up his feud with Snitsky and then a returning heel Matt Hardy

Shelton feuds with Christian awhile longer and then starts a feud with Rhyno

Lita continues to grow more of psycho edge to her and reigns hell on all of the Divas including a debuting Alexis Laree

Eugene and Regal hold the tag titles as a new and decent tag division is formed (Tajiri and Rhyno, Hurricane and Rosey, Danny Doring and Christian, Tomko and Kane, La Resistance)

that's all the ideas I have for now lol

P.S. I'd actually get rid of Snitsky all together and let Tomko be the new muscle for Evolution but I think the WWE would like Snitsky better as would Snik lol

[jbailey84]

^^^ not bad. i dont know if HHH will go that far over but who knows?

[ilovecandace]

i think it would be neat to see regal when the titel

[chewie]

What I can see happening is HHH keeping the title until Wrestlemania and dropping it to Orton who will win the Royal Rumble. They'll change the current stipulation.

[Se7en the movie]

Cajun, you mentioned Danny Doring there, has he signed for WWE?

[ChaCho]

jajajaja colorado that was some nice predictions, jajajaja, but it wont happen like that as i think, HHH will win the Battle Royal, Batista will try turning on him but looses, he then goes on the hunt for the Heavyweight Title, i am telling YALL, HBK WILL be the next World Champion, trust me.
JBL will never go to RAW he's been in it, but i feel after Armaggedon he will stay in the hunt for the WWE Championship.
About Jeff, the show Bite This i think is called, i remember it was around the time after The Great American Bash, that they were interviewing J.R., and a fan called and said " J.R. what do you feel about Jeff Hardy joining TNA?", and J.R. said "Jeff is a great athlete and him taking that path was his choice, we have told him over and over that whenever he feels like coming back to the WWE, the door is always open", so i dont think that he has any problem coming back like Mr.Dj saying that Vince wont accept him unless he admits he has drug problems. We wont also see Kane in Smackdown!, because well Undertaker is there, he said he doesnt want to be in the same show.

[Colorado Cajun]

yeah I know HHH will win the battle royale and keep the title until Mania where Orton will win. I just really think my ideas would be far more interesting and entertaining lol

As for Danny D he has been floating around the WWE for a bit in trial matches. I say they should sign him and put him in the tag division on Raw

[Se7en the movie]

I certainly hope they get Roadkill (The Angry Amish Chickenplucker), he kicked so much ass and those two were a hell of a team.

[LS2002]

Actually doesn't HHH have to leave for awhile if he has to promote Blade 3??

[ilovecandace]

i want to see hhh leave

[Se7en the movie]

WHY?!?

He is a quality main-eventer! He tries his best and he delievers. OK so his sway in WWE makes it so sometimes thing dont work out too well story-line wise but the guy one hell of a wrestler.

[Colorado Cajun]

only thing with HHH is his angle has gone stale imo. He needs to breath some life into his character again and stop his whole I'm the greatest and rule you all blah blah blah. Also he really should drop down the card for awhile and work to get over younger stars now

[ChaCho]

HHH is a great wrestler, he's been in great matches and he performs very well, but he thinks too much of himself now, he thinks he's got to be the World Champion every time, that's why he will never be one of the greatest of all time, look at Stone Cold, he was never always after the WWE Championship and turned out to be a great legend, The Undertaker, he's been Champion four times only, and he is the best there is, HBK, also Champion four times, and he's the greatest performer ever, they are great because they were not always after the title, HHH is always after it, so he is always at the main event in every PPV, and people get tired of him, i know i am, he should leave for a while and think about whats the best way for him to continue on the WWE.

[HotBoy]

Do you think that HHH will ever put the title up against Shelton Benjamin at sometime down the road? (particularly at WMXXI)?

[HotBoy]

ok here is what I think would really make the WWE good again

Have Batista actually beat HHH do to him being talked down to by HHH the entire show. Then it'll come down to HHH, Batista and Edge in the battle royale. HHH tells Batista to help him eliminate Edge. Batista acts like he is going to help HHH, but then moves out of the way as Edge spears the hell out of Trips. Batista then nails Trips with a powerbomb and tosses him over the top. He and Edge then go at it with Batista finally eliminating Edge and becoming the new Raw Champion.

Then HHH loses it on Flair who just shoves him away and walks off. HHH then is shunned for the next few weeks and loses to his various opponents. This goes on for like a month or so until HHH looks like he's about to have a breakdown and lose all face with everyone. Then to save any power he has he calls up the one man who has more history with him than anyone and asks him to help. The Next week on Raw the show starst off with Evolution's theme and out comes a very confident HHH who says he has finally found someone he can trust, and someone who can match his greatness and not let him down. Someone who has been through it all in the last year and who had his career nearly ended by a monster. A man who has held almost as much gold as he himself has and who can help him take over Raw once more. Just as the fans begin to chant HBK...HBK Matt Hardy's new music hits and out he comes. Matt then rants about how he's tired of always being let down by those he though loved him. How he has learned that no one can be trusted and that to succeed you have to take what is yours. He then rips on Jef fand Lita and vows to never be hurt again. HH then states that there is another member of Evolution who has proved himself for the last few months. A man who has left nothing but destruction since his arrival. HHH and Matt then call out Snitsky to take his official place in the New Evolution. Then when he's ready to fully return a heel HBK would join as well and you'd have a very entertaining and well put together faction again.

As for Batista he would win the title in the Battle Royale and finally break free and become the dominate force he is with Flair by his side. He would feud with Edge and Jericho for the Championship for a few months

Orton would be all over HHH for losing and feud with him and a returning heel HBK

Kane returns to pick up his feud with Snitsky and then a returning heel Matt Hardy

Shelton feuds with Christian awhile longer and then starts a feud with Rhyno

Lita continues to grow more of psycho edge to her and reigns hell on all of the Divas including a debuting Alexis Laree

Eugene and Regal hold the tag titles as a new and decent tag division is formed (Tajiri and Rhyno, Hurricane and Rosey, Danny Doring and Christian, Tomko and Kane, La Resistance)

that's all the ideas I have for now lol

P.S. I'd actually get rid of Snitsky all together and let Tomko be the new muscle for Evolution but I think the WWE would like Snitsky better as would Snik lol
Sounds good. But I've got a question, or 2: Who is Alexis Laree? Do you have any background info on her?

Also, when can we expect to see Kane back on RAW?

[ilovecandace]

i like hhh but he needs to leave

[IamMrDJ]

i like hhh but he needs to leave

Wow, you said the same thing 9 hours ago. And I was starting to think that you changed your mind since then.

Se7en asked you why you want him to leave. How about instead of posting the same thing again why don't you answer his question. Or do you not have a reason why?

[Colorado Cajun]

Sounds good. But I've got a question, or 2: Who is Alexis Laree? Do you have any background info on her?

Also, when can we expect to see Kane back on RAW?
http://www.dory-funk.com/alexis05.JPG

www.alexislaree.net

she was in the Gathering with Raven on TNA

also I think Kane will be back in the next few weeks

[sniktawt]

Looks like the WWE is finally giving Shannon"All That And " Moore a little VELOCITY push.
He pinned Akio last week and pinned Spike in a 6 man tag match that aired tonight.

Now if he can ditch the gay Demolition look and lose the spikey mohawk , he'll be all set.

[ilovecandace]

i agree

[Colorado Cajun]

yeah but Shannon should not be just on Velocity. He is an awesome talent and can do amazing things in the ring. He should be a regular on SD or in a tag team on Raw with another mid card talent

[ChaCho]

Shannon, he is a great wrestler when they give him the chance, if they give him a nice role to go on the hunt for the Cruserweight title, he could do very good, i liked the role when he was allied with Matt Hardy i laughed a lot during that period of time. jajajajaja, by the way anyone knows whats up with Matt Hardy lately?

[ilovecandace]

matt was injured i think i would like to see him back but as a good guy and back to his old self i would always get excited watching and jeff doing there hi ridk moves anyways ttyl