Go WWE!

[ZombieMan]

That site says that my name would be "Aggravated Assault".

[Inval1d]

Lord Of The Ring is mine. :(

[Warren]

Petey Postman :funny:

[poeman]

what im hearing from sources is the reason booker t is on smackdown is because a large population of smackdown watchers are also hip hop people because of upn. many believe UPN had involvement in this trade. I dunno, i like BOOKER t and RVD. Ill take them anyday. BUT i miss edge :(

[IamMrDJ]

Wrestler Sting doing biopic here in town

Some Nashville folks are making a feature film about the transformation of old WWE star Sting from boozing, drugging womanizer to praising, worshipping Christian.

Seems Sting's longtime manager is one Kathy King of Franklin, and her hubby, George King, is a Christian music industry veteran who found Sting's story compelling.

So Sting and George King are making a film called, get this, Sting: The Movie. Brilliant!

Face-painting Sting, a k a Steve Borden, will play himself in the movie, though local fitness center manager Donny Fallgatter will play a younger Sting.

Other local actors, including several first-timers, have been cast by Lyn Richmond, local casting guru. Among those on the set yesterday: former Titans wide receiver Chris Sanders, who is playing the part of a rasslin' referee.

And yes, there may be a tie-in eventually to that pay-per-view wrestling league, TNA, which has a regular Wednesday night show at the Tennessee State Fairgrounds.

The movie might not be coming to a large theater chain near you, but it's likely that Sting: The Movie will find distribution somehow through the Christian community.

http://tennessean.com/celebrities/archives/04/03/48813910.shtml?Element_ID=48813910

[slinger]

They should get Sting (from The Police...) to do the soundtrack! ;)

Sting: The Movie

Starring TNA's Sting and The Sting's Paul Newman as Ric Flair! With original music by Sting. Hear Will Ferrell say Sting.

[Kyle Katarn]

"Lord of the Ring!" :twisted:

[IamMrDJ]

My first one was "Super Lucious"and then I did it again and got a better one...

Bubba Bob Hunkleberry

[Kyle Katarn]

Hehe....

LOL! "John" Bradshaw has a new suit, new music, and a new entrance vid composed of his spots as a fianancial analyst on Fox News! :D

[Inval1d]

oh god, I just saw it. He looks like JR but with muscles.

[Kyle Katarn]

Point - he even said "Business is about to pick up!" :p

[Inval1d]

:funny:

[Colorado Cajun]

Mine is the Kamakaze Kiwi :D

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
Wrestler Sting doing biopic here in town

Some Nashville folks are making a feature film about the transformation of old WWE star Sting from boozing, drugging womanizer to praising, worshipping Christian.

Seems Sting's longtime manager is one Kathy King of Franklin, and her hubby, George King, is a Christian music industry veteran who found Sting's story compelling.

So Sting and George King are making a film called, get this, Sting: The Movie. Brilliant!

Face-painting Sting, a k a Steve Borden, will play himself in the movie, though local fitness center manager Donny Fallgatter will play a younger Sting.

Other local actors, including several first-timers, have been cast by Lyn Richmond, local casting guru. Among those on the set yesterday: former Titans wide receiver Chris Sanders, who is playing the part of a rasslin' referee.

And yes, there may be a tie-in eventually to that pay-per-view wrestling league, TNA, which has a regular Wednesday night show at the Tennessee State Fairgrounds.

The movie might not be coming to a large theater chain near you, but it's likely that Sting: The Movie will find distribution somehow through the Christian community.

http://tennessean.com/celebrities/archives/04/03/48813910.shtml?Element_ID=48813910

I'm going to see it and hopefully it'll kick ass

[Inval1d]

Wtrestling-Edge:

Thanks to Nate Jackson for the following:

On the local 5:OO news here in San Antonio it was reported theat Stone Cold Steve Austin has been arrested again for assaulting his girlfriend of one year.

PWInsider.com has confirmed this report. We are working hard to get more details on this situation.




Come on austin, you need help with those problems...

[slinger]

Idiot.

[Inval1d]

WE -

Partial Credit: PWInsider.com

To update an earlier report on the Steve Austin situation, he has apparently not been arrested. However, the rumors about a domestic abuse incident with his girlfriend of one year (now known to be Tess Broussard, 37 years old) were in fact reported on local San Antonio TV-news affiliate KSAN-12 as reported.

The story goes, police were called to Austin's house in San Antonio on Thursday and according to a police report, the two, who are in the process of seperation, were talking when Austin "became irritable" and apparently pushed down Broussard, who landed on her hands and knees. Broussard told the police she "feared bodily injury" and that she has pictures taken for evidence and will pursue legal action against Austin.

SSA Entertainment sent out a press release earlier today stating the following: "Despite the reports of Steve Austin's situation in Texas earlier today, SSA Entertainment has confirmed that Steve Austin will be in Secaucus tomorrow as scheduled." So, those planning on catching the Austin autograph session in Secaucus tomorrow can still plan on seeing Austin there.

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Hehe....

LOL! "John" Bradshaw has a new suit, new music, and a new entrance vid composed of his spots as a fianancial analyst on Fox News! :D


I'm really going to get bored with this angle FAST, this is one of those that should go to "Gimmick hell" alongside The Gobbledy Gooker, Hillbilly Jim, Doink, etc. Whoooa actually Hillbilly Jim and Doink were cool but they considered those "horrible gimmicks". But totally, this Bradshaw thing really sucks, I liked him better with long black hair, the mustache and the APA look, he was a hoss.

[Se7en the movie]

i like his new gimmick, he cant stay with APA forever and on his own that gimmick would suck, plus i never knew he could do good promos outside of the APA, seems i was proved wrong.

i thought it was a pretty good smackdown this week, cena's rap was pretty funny. If they could just give rene dupree a new gimmick past the 'french' then he will be a great wrestler.

incidentally does anyone know who doink the clown really was?

[Kyle Katarn]

Frizzo! ;)

Naw, I dunno. Seems like there have been 3 different Doinks, though...

[jbailey84]

from rajah.com

"There is a possibility that WWE will have the post-WrestleMania draft lottery becoming an annual event due to the high rating RAW received this past Monday. The feeling is that the brand split has been established to the point where combining the rosters for one night would impact the ratings and create a “special” atmosphere. Most believe that if the roster had never been split, RAW would have not been able to draw a 4.5 rating."

[Kyle Katarn]

YESS!!! Y2J dusted off the "Bottom feeding trash bag HO" speech for Trish! :D

[Colorado Cajun]

Man Edge has buffed up quite a bit in his off time and has a new tatt!!

Raw was damn good tonight imo

Shelton is going to be big finally!!!

I swear they better wisen up and bring Nova in as a supervillain to fued with Hurricane insted of as his lame ass 80's gimmick he's doing now

[Inval1d]

I loved the part with Tajiri and Coach. :D

[HotBoy]

incidentally does anyone know who doink the clown really was?

It was Steve Lombardi (The Brooklyn Brawler), Se7en The Movie!!

Also, Raw was smoking tonight!! I'm still a little upset that Raw didn't draft John Cena, but after watching Sheldon Benjamin v. HHH tonight, I've got to say it, that choice was slammin'!!! :D :D :D

[IamMrDJ]

HOtBoy you are mistaken on the Doink Character. Brooklyn BRawler played a character named DOink, but he was not Doink the Clown
The four Doink the Clowns were played by these men.
Doink #1: Matt Borne
Doink #2: Ray Apollo
Doink #3: Steve Keirn
Doink #4: Dusty Wolfe

[slinger]

Originally posted by HotBoy
It was Steve Lombardi (The Brooklyn Brawler), Se7en The Movie!!

Also, Raw was smoking tonight!! I'm still a little upset that Raw didn't draft John Cena, but after watching Sheldon Benjamin v. HHH tonight, I've got to say it, that choice was slammin'!!! :D :D :D

Well I missed Raw and the repeat in Canada will be too late for me but I wish I could've seen that match. Hopefully they don't both Shelton's push. Remember Maven eliminated Taker from the Rumble and beat him in a hardcore match.

And Backlash is looking good.

Final Encounter: (ladder match?)
HHH vs HBK vs Benoit

No Rules IC Title:
Foley vs Orton

Christian vs Jericho

Kane vs Edge

RAW Tag Titles:
Evolution vs ??? (Shelton & somebody maybe)

Women's Match

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
Man Edge has buffed up quite a bit in his off time and has a new tatt!!

Hmm, so it wasn't me seeing things? He looks like he's quite a bit broader in the shoulder area too. I liked the tattoo and attire..kind of gave him a good boy/bad boy image all at once.


Holy hell, I hadn't realized just how much I missed Jericho being like that. I laughed for the longest time when he was railing on Trish. I'd like to see him and The Rock have a smack-talking only match..I bet it'd be the funniest damn thing ever.

[Se7en the movie]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
HOtBoy you are mistaken on the Doink Character. Brooklyn BRawler played a character named DOink, but he was not Doink the Clown
The four Doink the Clowns were played by these men.
Doink #1: Matt Borne
Doink #2: Ray Apollo
Doink #3: Steve Keirn
Doink #4: Dusty Wolfe

did any of these guys play anyone else in the WWE or abroad?

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Se7en the movie
did any of these guys play anyone else in the WWE or abroad?
MAtt Borne's PRevious Gimmicks were:

Matt Borne (WWF)
Doink the Clown (WWF)
Big Josh(WCW)
Maniac Matt Borne

Steve Keirn's Previous Gimmick was Skinner

[jbailey84]

lol, Skinner was once Doink? lol

[ZombieMan]

I just moved into a new place and haven't been on the internet for awhile, but about Raw on Monday night. I WAS JUMPING when Shelton Benjamin beat Triple H, that was sooooo awsome! Shelton is one of my favorite WWE wrestlers.

[DavidGale]

Yeah RAW's Backlash card looks better than I thought it would.

[stonefaced_1]

Raw has been really good lately. Wierd.

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by stonefaced_1
Raw has been really good lately. Wierd.


AGREED!!!

[Warren]

Smackdown was horrible. They're building a main event title fued around Bradshaw's hat? And I thought WWE was getting better.....

[ZombieMan]

I didn't think Smackdown was any good either and I definitly don't want to see Bradshaw at main event status right now. Booker T vs. Eddie Guerrero would be fine with me. Thats what they need to do with Smackdown is keep Booker T on top of hating Guerrero and going for the title.

[jbailey84]

does anyone have an idea on how much the Wrestlemania tickets cost? my friend and i plan on going to WM 21 cause he lives in northern CA and was just wondering on what the prices run.

[Inval1d]

usually they are twice as expensive as usually seats cost for PPV i think. how close are you looking for?

in other news.
The following is from WWE.com:

WWE.com received the following information from the office of Jim Ross, WWE’s Executive Vice President for Talent Relations:

Terri Runnels and WWE have mutually agreed to terms to part ways. Terri has been a great member of our team for almost seven years, and we wish her the best and would enjoy working with her again if the situation presents itself.

Sean O’Haire has been notified that he will be released from his contract. Sean is an excellent athlete and we wish him well in his future endeavors

[slinger]

Originally posted by Inval1d
usually they are twice as expensive as usually seats cost for PPV i think. how close are you looking for?

in other news.
The following is from WWE.com:

WWE.com received the following information from the office of Jim Ross, WWE’s Executive Vice President for Talent Relations:

Terri Runnels and WWE have mutually agreed to terms to part ways. Terri has been a great member of our team for almost seven years, and we wish her the best and would enjoy working with her again if the situation presents itself.

Sean O’Haire has been notified that he will be released from his contract. Sean is an excellent athlete and we wish him well in his future endeavors

Well Terri should've been released long ago, O'Haire is just another wasted talent at the WWE. Was he in the Survivor Series PPV?

Bradshaw vs Eddie? no thanks. Heel contenders can be pushed to a certain extent since the fans don't have much of a say (Trips, Big Show). Bradshaw and Booker T are now the top heels on Smackdown, one month ago they were both faces in forgetable tage team matches at WrestleMania and Lenser and Angle were the top guys.

Booker T vs Eddie, Bradshaw is fed to Taker, RVD turns heel with Heyman as his manager and works a program with Cena. Heyman is planned to return as a heel manager, but with who is the question. Angle better be a short term GM.

[ZombieMan]

I think RVD will be the heel wrestler when Heyman comes back to managing. That would work out pretty good I think.

[jbailey84]

Originally posted by Inval1d "usually they are twice as expensive as usually seats cost for PPV i think. how close are you looking for?"

pretty much front row, we just want to know the price range. cause i would need to set aside money for my ticket of course and plane ticket to CA.

[slinger]

Well seeing how Staples Center is a small venue compared to Sky Dome and Safeco Field I would think the WWE would be asking for higher ticket prices to make up for the smaller attendence.
For front row I would say aim for $600-700 since it's WrestleMania 21.

[Inval1d]

EUGENE! EUGENE!

LOL! his character is odd but funny.

did anyone see the ropes break? Rhyno was like WTF? :D

[Colorado Cajun]

honestly I thought raw was really mediocre this weak

nothing really impressed me much

[Inval1d]

William Regal was a surprise though. I thought he wouldn't be on screen no more.

[slinger]

Originally posted by Inval1d
EUGENE! EUGENE!

LOL! his character is odd but funny.

did anyone see the ropes break? Rhyno was like WTF? :D

Regal was better off being sick.
Last week's show was better, just used to help sell the PPV really. Shelton looked great again. Foley did another fine performance.

Any Chappelle's Show fans see the 'I'm Rick James *****!' sign?

[Inval1d]

i can't wait to see the barb-wire at Backlash.

[ZombieMan]

EUGENE, that was hilarious, I laughed my ass off! Now we have a "special" wrestler, how funny! I did see the ropes break and Rhyno looked all confused, hahaha. I admit, I was sort of glad to see Regal back in a way. Shelton rocks and I was impressed with his match with Triple H tonight, awsome stuff!

[Warren]

I feel sorry for Nick Dinsmore for having to go through that terrible, terrible gimmick.

[ZombieMan]

I don't know, Nick seemed to enjoy it. Thats the way it looked to me, hahaha, but you never know!

[ZombieMan]

Just for fun, I am posting my top 10 favorite Raw and Smackdown superstars. Feel free to post yours too!

Raw
1. Shelton Benjamin
2. Tajiri
3. Chris Benoit
4. Shawn Michaels
5. Chris Jericho
6. Edge
7. Mick Foley
8. Kane
9. Gail Kim
10. Molly Holly

Smackdown
1. Ultimo Dragon
2. The Undertaker
3. Eddie Guerrero
4. Rey Mysterio
5. John Cena
6. Billy Gunn
7. RVD
8. Nunzio
9. Big Show
10. Kurt Angle

Also did anyone notice Johnny Nitro's music last night? It was the old WCW Monday Nitro theme music!

[Colorado Cajun]

Raw

Jericho
Christian
Edge
Lita
HBK
Trish
Orton
Matt Hardy
Foley
Stacy

honorary position to Tajiri

Smackdown

Cena
Eddie
Rey Rey
Kidman
Booker T
RVD
Kurt Angle
Shannon Moore
Dawn Marie
Rikishi

[slinger]

RAW 1-10

Chris Jericho (hometown boy, king of the world)
Chris Benoit (never disapoints)
HBK (missed his first run, happy to see return)
Edge (future champ)
Orton
Foley (gives what we want)
Ric Flair (woooo! and the strut)
Christian (clb)
Trish
Shelton Benjamin (Team Angle, good singles start)


Smackdown 1-10

Kurt Angle (3 Gs - great wrestler, great heel, great promos)
Eddie (cheat to win)
Cena (nuts...)
Mysterio (619)
Taker
RVD
Booker T
Charlie Haas
Big Show
Chavo

[Warren]

In no order.

RAW
Chris Benoit
Chris Jericho
Matt Hardy
Edge
Christian
Tajiri
Shelton Benjamin
Rhyno
Ric Flair
The Hurricane

Worst- Randy Orton, Rodney Mack, Scott Steiner, A-Train, Test, Mark Henry

Smackdown!
Eddie Guerrero
Kurt Angle
Rob Van Dam
Rey Mysterio
Chavo Guerrero
Paul London
John Cena
Ultimo Dragon
Booker T
Charlie Haas

Worst- Big Show, Bradshaw, Rene Dupree, Hardcore Holly, Rikishi, Billy Gunn

[PitbulI]

My favorites on RAW are

Chris Jericho
Hurricane
Shawn Michaels
Chris Benoit
Christian
William Regal


Smackdown

Kurt Angle
Undertaker
RVD

I've been a wrestling fan since WrestleMania, which coincidentaly is when I started watching TV when I was that young. I don't think I could ever stop watching it. I make sure I catch RAW or at least tape it or see the replay every week. I've never missed a RAW in years.

Anyone who says wrestling is dumb is just very opinionated. Lots of people watch that reality garbage and soap opera's all the time. But somehow that is better television? Says who, the people who like it. I like wrestling, star trek and family guy. I also liked Beavis and Butthead and He Man. Oh yeah, KnightRider and Airwolf rocked.

Which once again proves my point. German's love David Hasselhoff (Norm MacDonald - Saturday Night Live)

[ZombieMan]

Can anyone here tell me where Scott Steiner dissapeared to? I haven't seen him on tv in quite some time. Is he injured?

[slinger]

He should retire. He's injured I think with a leg injury.
Should be back soon. Ugh.

Remember his Royal Rumble match with HHH? "You ****ed up!" and "boring" were never yellled out more than in that match. Trips was practically a face because Steiner was so bad, they needed Flair to get some heat back. I belive it also ended in a DQ which made the match suck even more.

Then Benoit and Angle put on the ultimate wrestling clinic and Benoit gets a stading 'o' after the match, that he lost. Best of 2003. Then for some crazy idea (maybe it was in his overpaid contract) they do a rematch (HHH vs Poppa Pump) at the next PPV and it wasn't that much better. Luckily a young Evolution came down and destroyed him.

[Rogue]

:rolleyes: Ugh, so sick of Bradshaw and his mouth.

[Colorado Cajun]

he is IRS 2004 you know lol

Cena is so frickin over it's scary

[Inval1d]

I just read Confidential was cancelled by WWE now..



Bring on ECW!

[ZombieMan]

Wow, that would be a big setup for a timeslot on ECW's part. Hmmm, this could happen, quite possibly. Saturday night would be a good night to have it on too! Oh by the way, thanks Slinger for clearing up the Scott Steiner situation!

[slinger]

The problem is with this new ECW is, what happens when their established champ is over, WWE has some injuries. what is Vince going to do? He's going to move him to RAW or Smackdown.

It would sadly be like a minore league which would have call ups every so often. But good to see Vince is trying stuff. All Confidential did was provide features for their DVDs.

[Inval1d]

The ECW should have heyman on smackdown first.

then he will steal wrestlers that aren't used alot.

[slinger]

Tommy Dreamer, Lance Storm from RAW. I'm just saying if they discover a new talent it'll just be like WCW and WWE stealing stars again.

[jbailey84]

i know im behind on this, but i downloaded the Brock Vs Goldberg WM20 match on KaZaa, and i was thinking to myself,

do you think the match would have been better if the fans didnt know about Brock wanting to go to the NFL?

cause watching it from all those chants it looked like they both didnt care and wrestled however.

[slinger]

Well it probably would've been better. It had crappy buildup (no Goldberg) and the fans already knew Goldberg was on the outs bc the WWE wasn't going to pay him. Lesner left bc he didn't like wrestling anymore (and he was many valid reasons) so the fans let him have it. If Lesner has no desire and Goldberg has a handful of moves it isn't going to be a good match.

[jbailey84]

yea, well this also answered my question from billgoldberg.com AOL chat from the other night

"Question: Hi Bill what was it like to wrestle Brock Lesnar at WrestlemaniaXX

Bill Gldbrg Live: It could have been a wonderful match in history but the fans in the arena wouldn't let that happen. They just wanted to heckle us both for leaving. We didn't want to be there at that time, but give me a break. I wouldn't have been there if it wasn't for the fans."

[Inval1d]

Smackdown 6 is going to be called WWE Smackdown: Word Life.
according to Wrestling-Edge.

[jbailey84]

wonder who'll be on the cover ;)

[Warren]

Interesting idea. Could be a sign for a Cena push.

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by Rogue
:rolleyes: Ugh, so sick of Bradshaw and his mouth.

Aren't we all

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Warren
Interesting idea. Could be a sign for a Cena push.

:funny: Like he needs it.

[slinger]

Originally posted by Rogue
:funny: Like he needs it.

Same position that Eddie was last year when he was US Champion, more over than the 'top' face.
Cena and Torrie will be here this Friday for a news conference about the upcoming Smackdown! TV show. The place only holds 200 so it'll be filled in no time.

[Se7en the movie]

ok i'm gonna go ahead and say it...............bradshaw may be (pretty much) stealing ted dibiase's gimmick from oh so long ago, but i gotta say he is pulling it off nicely, i find his new gimmick pretty entertaining and if they could just fix his music then i think he will be a pretty good addition to Smackdown (that vince is trying to kill). Having said that if they put the title on bradshaw i will be seriously pissed.......

[Warren]

I HATE BRADSHAW. His gimmick is boring and racist and he's a horrible wrestler.

[jbailey84]

from rajah.com on WCW Event resurrected

"WWE will be reprising a WCW tradition this year. On 6/27 they will present The Great American Bash as a June pay-per-view. The show will take place from Norfolk, Virginia and will be set around an “American-patriot” theme. Promotion photos show Torrie Wilson in a red, white and blue Uncle Sam outfit.

Norfolk is the home of the largest naval base in the world. WWE will also announce that members of the military will be able to view the pay-per-view for free.

The Great American Bash began as a series of summer events promoted by Jim Crockett in the late ‘80s. In July of 1988 the show aired on pay-per-view from Baltimore, Maryland headlined by NWA Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair verses Lex Luger, with Flair coming away victorious once the match was stopped by the State Athletic Commission due to Luger’s excessive bleeding. That night marked NWA’s first event ever available through all cable systems on pay-per-view.

The name was used annually as a NWA/WCW event and later became a WCW tradition."

[Kyle Katarn]

Did Grandmaster Sexay come back tonight? I wuz on the phone...

[slinger]

Originally posted by jbailey84
from rajah.com on WCW Event resurrected

"WWE will be reprising a WCW tradition this year. On 6/27 they will present The Great American Bash as a June pay-per-view. The show will take place from Norfolk, Virginia and will be set around an “American-patriot” theme. Promotion photos show Torrie Wilson in a red, white and blue Uncle Sam outfit.

Norfolk is the home of the largest naval base in the world. WWE will also announce that members of the military will be able to view the pay-per-view for free.

The Great American Bash began as a series of summer events promoted by Jim Crockett in the late ‘80s. In July of 1988 the show aired on pay-per-view from Baltimore, Maryland headlined by NWA Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair verses Lex Luger, with Flair coming away victorious once the match was stopped by the State Athletic Commission due to Luger’s excessive bleeding. That night marked NWA’s first event ever available through all cable systems on pay-per-view.

The name was used annually as a NWA/WCW event and later became a WCW tradition."

That would be a Smackdown PPV. Good thing all the Canadians are on RAW. Might've read that its been quite a stir up here now that
Benoit "now residing in Atlanta, Georgia" (Edmonton home of Backlash)
Jericho is from Manhattan, NY (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
Gail Kim is from Korea (Toronto, Ontario)
Edge is from Florida (Toronto, Ontario)
and La Resistance is now from Quebec.

Benoit I understand and respect since he's lived there since '96 and two of his kids were born there. The whole feud between Jericho/Trish and Christian started with a 1 Canadian dollar (a loonie) and now when Y2J enters he's from the Empire State. Trish still lives in TO so that won't change. Many see it as a slap in the face, changing faces to American cities and heels to Canadian. Maybe if Jericho, Benoit and Edge were new but the audience and fans know that they're Canadian. JR has mentioned it countless times.

[Inval1d]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Did Grandmaster Sexay come back tonight? I wuz on the phone...

yes he did......and lost against Kane.

[slinger]

Backlash Card

Final Encouter Triple Threat
hbk - hhh - benoit

Hardcore IC Title Match
orton - cactus jack

Handicap Match
y2j - clb/trish

Women's Title
lita - victoria

Edge's 1st Match
kane - edge

Youth vs Expierence
shelton - nature boy

PPV Filler
tajiri - coach

Benoit PINS HBK, Orton wins, Jericho wins,
Victoria wins, Edge wins, Shelton wins, Tajiri wins.
of course I'm not expecting all my picks to win. WWE could throw a swerve and have Foley win (but give up belt quickly), Batista cause a DQ, Lita winning to feud with Trish.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Did Grandmaster Sexay come back tonight? I wuz on the phone...

Yes, he did. :funny: He was dancing and Kane was just like "what the ****."

[ZombieMan]

MY PREDICTIONS FOR BACKLASH!

World Heavyweight Title Match:
Chris Benoit (c) vs. Triple H vs. HBK
WINNER AND NEW CHAMPION: HBK

Hardcore IC Title Match:
Randy Orton (c) vs. Mick Foley
WINNER: RANDY ORTON

Handicap Match:
Chris Jericho vs. Christian and Trish Stratus
WINNER: CHRIS JERICHO

Women's Title Match:
Victoria (c) vs. Lita
WINNER AND NEW WOMEN'S CHAMPION: LITA

Grudge Match:
Edge vs. Kane
WINNER: EDGE

Youth vs. Experience Match:
Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair
WINNER: SHELTON BENJAMIN

Grudge Match:
Tajiri vs. The Coach
WINNER: THE COACH (someone will most likely interfere, IMO)

[jbailey84]

no tag matches?

[Warren]

World Heavyweight Title Match:
Chris Benoit (c) vs. Triple H vs. HBK
WINNER: Chris Benoit

Hardcore IC Title Match:
Randy Orton (c) vs. Mick Foley
WINNER: Randy Orton

Chris Jericho vs. Christian and Trish Stratus
WINNER: Chris Jericho

Women's Title Match:
Victoria (c) vs. Lita
WINNER: Victoria

Edge vs. Kane
WINNER: Edge

Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair
WINNER: Ric Flair

Tajiri vs. The Coach
WINNER: Tajiri

[Se7en the movie]

so everyone hates bradshaw? well i guess u all adore THE WORM! the most redunant move ever created, hey and while i'm at it i gotta get the ridiculously bad wrestlers that rikishi, scotty too hotty and grand master sexya (him being the best of a bad lot) are. How anyone still cheers for these morons when they dance is beyond me. What WWE need to do is throw a few guys back to smackdown, lose rene dupree's tiresome gimmick, cause he's a good wrestler but he is being screwed by a crappy gimmick, and make RVD and cena main eventers. ALSO to WARREN who said that bradshaw's gimmick is 'rascist', i guess when all the fans, wrestler and commentators were saying how much France 'sucked', that was just patriotism.....

also u ask, 'no tag matches?' no, why? cause the tag division in WWE sucks right now, i dont wanna say it but it does......

[ZombieMan]

Wow, Se7en is pretty angry with the WWE. I have to agree that Grandmaster Sexay and Rikishi don't have alot of talent in the ring, but I have to disagree on Scotty 2 Hotty. Yeah, his "Worm" move may be kind of lame, but its total gimmick, the man can really wrestle. Think back to Backlash of 2000 when he wrestled Dean Malenko for the Light Heavyweight Title, that was a bad ass match! They just need to let Scotty fight some more technical wrestlers is all. About Bradshaw, I don't think his gimmick is racist and even if it was, who cares? Its just a show! I agree about the tag team division kind of sucking too, IMO when Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas were a team, that was cool!

[slinger]

Originally posted by jbailey84
no tag matches?

The lottery draft pretty much destroyed whatever tag divsions either brand had. The first three picks broke up teams. La Resistance of course still had two members.

RAW
Evolution: Flair/Batista
Hurricane/Rosie (now sadly the face top tag team)
La Resistance

SD!
Too Cool
The Dudleys (trying to push these guys as heels, but won't work.)
Bashams

RVD and Booker are split, Jindrik and Garrison spilt, TWGGT split, APA split.

APA I can see since they fired Simmons and somehow thought Bradshaw was worthy of a huge heel push, but they lost four teams that were just on a PPV and had to put the gold back on Evolution due to the lack of contenders. Smackdown is a shell of its former shelf in all divisions. If it wasn't for Cena and Eddie the show would have no hope. Keeping Taker of TV to increase houseshows might be okay at first but he needs to be on TV. Once Backlash is done they can start setting up matches for Judgment Day (usually a crappy PPV no matter what year) and he should be back.

[Se7en the movie]

i'm not totally pissed with WWE its just they are doing some really obvious stupid things and not doing obvious good things, they split up tag teams, who they obviously need them, they send loads of great wrestlers to RAW who dont need them and leave Smackdown with, ok some great wrestlers but not enough. I do remember the dean malenko v scotty 2 hotty match and it was good but what they need to do is stop blinding me and the stupidity of scotty's gimmick. also as regards to rikishi again, if one of your finisher's is rubbing ur ass into another guy's face, then i think you gotta reconsider ur chosen profession or at least make some changes. Anyway,did anyone else notice that when there is any anti-american group (the un-americans or la resistance), they away make a lot of sense when criticising the USA....just a thought. WWE's greatest problem is wasting talent. Sean O' Haire? he had talent and he coulda been big, tommy dreamer? see any match in ECW, paul london? why is he still on Velocity, the kid is really really good! doug and danny bashem? they guys have either no gimmick or a terrible gimmick, some of the guy's moves are great! nova? where is he?

[Colorado Cajun]

MY PREDICTIONS FOR BACKLASH!

World Heavyweight Title Match:
Chris Benoit (c) vs. Triple H vs. HBK
WINNER: BENOIT

Hardcore IC Title Match:
Randy Orton (c) vs. Mick Foley
WINNER: RANDY ORTON

Handicap Match:
Chris Jericho vs. Christian and Trish Stratus
WINNER: JERICHO

Women's Title Match:
Victoria (c) vs. Lita
WINNER: VICTORIA ( I want Lita though)

Grudge Match:
Edge vs. Kane
WINNER: EDGE

Youth vs. Experience Match:
Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair
WINNER: SHELTON BENJAMIN

Grudge Match:
Tajiri vs. The Coach
WINNER: THE COACH

[slinger]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
MY PREDICTIONS FOR BACKLASH!

Women's Title Match:
Victoria (c) vs. Lita
WINNER: VICTORIA ( I want Lita though)


She'll probably win between Backlash and Bad Blood on a RAW or win it at Bad Blood.

[Warren]

Originally posted by Se7en the movie
so everyone hates bradshaw? well i guess u all adore THE WORM! the most redunant move ever created, hey and while i'm at it i gotta get the ridiculously bad wrestlers that rikishi, scotty too hotty and grand master sexya (him being the best of a bad lot) are. How anyone still cheers for these morons when they dance is beyond me. What WWE need to do is throw a few guys back to smackdown, lose rene dupree's tiresome gimmick, cause he's a good wrestler but he is being screwed by a crappy gimmick, and make RVD and cena main eventers. ALSO to WARREN who said that bradshaw's gimmick is 'rascist', i guess when all the fans, wrestler and commentators were saying how much France 'sucked', that was just patriotism.....


I never said that that wasn't racism. I was just saying how much I hated Bradshaw. I never mentioned La Resistance at all.

I agree with you about Scotty and Rikishi.

I disagree about Dupree, he's a bland wrestler.

[Colorado Cajun]

Alright here is my idea to really make Raw interesting. Have Orton win at the ppv and HHH lose. Then on Raw HHH shows up and can't get into the Evolution room. Then Orton, Batista and Flair come out and rip on HHH for losing once again to Benoit. Orton says he beat yet another legend and HHH couldn't even beat a gap toother joke and his one time bestfriend. Then orton says Evolution doesn't have a spot for a joke like HHH and that he is now the leader of the biggest thing in wrestling. With that he introduces a new member. (someone massive and bad ass to team with Batista. Flair will finally become only a manager)

That would be such a good angle imo

[Se7en the movie]

shelton benjamin as new member of evolution, i know he isnt 'big' but it kinda makes sense

[slinger]

That would be great if Shelton turned heel on RAW and HHH was on the outs. He has beaten The Game twice and it would really help him to hang with Evolution.
Have a old fahioned beat down and that would explain Triple H leaving to go film a movie. He returns and wants a title match against Benoit since Orton his own thing with say Jericho. Then maybe for Survivor Series its HHH vs Orton with Hemsley winning and then Orton would eventually win the title next year and enter WrestleMania as champion.

[Se7en the movie]

is orton ready for a world title? i mean this guy is getting a serious push in recent times, though a HHH vs Orton match would own (if i'm using the term correctly). I havent seen smackdown yet (as it only goes out on saturday over here), can anyone tell me what this new guy is like? there was a promo vid for him and i was wondering if he looked kick ass or just another rikishi (Meaning crappy). Also is paul london competeing on smackdown this week?

[Colorado Cajun]

Orton isn't ready for the World title quite yet, that's why he needs to be given a few more really good IC feuds while being puxhed to top heel statue along with Evolution

[Colorado Cajun]

Also I don't want Shelton to join up. I want it to be someone to tag with Batista and basically take Flair's spot as a wrestler. Jindrak would've been great in this role imo, as would've O'Haire. Now O'Haire is gone and Jindrak is on SD.

[Warren]

Why do people here like Orton? He's a boring wrestler, and he's as charismatic as a broom.

[Se7en the movie]

please........orton can wrestle and has surprising amount of charisma, he is one guy i always thought would stay a jobber and he surprised me by getting into the ranks of christian, edge and jericho. His promo at wrestlemania was very good. what do you want from the guy?

[Warren]

He will never be as good a wrestler as Christian, Edge and Jericho. He doesn't deserve the huge push he's getting.

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by Warren
Why do people here like Orton? He's a boring wrestler, and he's as charismatic as a broom.

I couldn't agree more! IMO Randy Orton just completely sucks, all around. I'm not big on his wrestling skills and he doesn't have much charisma either. I get totally bored when he wrestles or cuts a promo. Sean O'Haire would have been really cool though in Orton's place.

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by Warren
Why do people here like Orton? He's a boring wrestler, and he's as charismatic as a broom.

Yeah see I'm not buying that. He's incredible at making people hate him. He is damn good in the ring and is one of the better mic workers around. I really like him and especially for being so young and new to the game

[Inval1d]

I just hate Evolution. When I hear the time clicking, I turn. They are sooooo boring.

[Wildcat7]

So very true, they very boring. But they do a great job of making us hate them. Don't you think?
Who do you'll think will win the triple threat match?
I believe Shawn Micheals will win

[Warren]

Originally posted by Colorado Cajun
He is damn good in the ring and is one of the better mic workers around.

I strongly disagree. He's too generic to me. His finisher is a toned down Diamond Cutter and he's slow in the ring. "One of the better mic workers" is being very generous.

Flair is the best wrestler in Evolution by far. Batista is only good as a monster and HHH just annoys me now.

[Se7en the movie]

batista is THE most out of place member of evolution! Ok i get why Flair is there (veteren, old school wrestler) and HHH (current bigshot will soon be a legend) and orton (up and comer, a rookie but a damn fine one) but batista........he's just BAM right there for no good reason and he looks so out of place in a suit. Also wasnt he supposed to be genetically enhanced?

Shawn Michaels wont win cause taking the belt of benoit so soon is just stupid.....

[Warren]

Just found this on another message board.

Eugene's origin revealed?
By JOHN POWELL -- Co-producer, SLAM! Wrestling

Nick Dinsmore as 'Eugene'.

As controversy continues to swirl regarding the WWE's new "mentally challenged" character, information is now surfacing concerning his possible origin.

A former WWE employee has told SLAM! Wrestling that the 'Eugene' persona is likely based on a real "mentally challenged" boy who used to hang out backstage as a guest whenever the promotion visited the Northeast region of the United States in the eighties. According to the source, the boy wasn't aware that his disability was persistently ridiculed by some of the WWE employees at the time.

"Folks in the WWF treated the kid, named Eugene, with respect, but he was always laughed at behind his back. Many people routinely mocked him and sometimes for fun he would even be mocked up front," the source claims. "It struck me as odd that we could be so nice to the kid while at the same time delivering vulgar disrespect."

Debuting on last week's Raw broadcast, 'Eugene' is played by grappler Nick Dinsmore. Eugene was introduced as Eric Bischoff's "special nephew" and the snobby William Regal was assigned to manage/baby-sit him. With fantasy possibly mirroring reality, Eugene's erratic behavior was positioned as comic relief on the show with fans laughing at and not with the new character as he imitated the Bushwhackers, licked the announcers and had to be led away by¨Regal. As most fans are aware, Nick Dinsmore himself is not disabled in any way.

After being besieged by email from irate fans who expressed disgust and concern over the angle, the WWE began issuing a form letter response to defend the story line and clarify their purpose in going forward with it.

"The WWE intends to portray the character of Eugene as a hero, as are the many people with disabilities around the world (many of whom are WWE fans) who must everyday face challenges to live the type of life many of us take for granted. Eugene, despite his disability, will get a chance to achieve his dream of becoming a professional wrestler. We hope that Eugene's story will encourage other people with disabilities to strive to achieve their dreams, whatever they may be," states the WWE in their e-mail response.

It is unclear whether negative feedback from fans altered the WWE's plans for Eugene or not.

In Eugene's profile on the official WWE site, he is described as "unique" and that "the "special superstar and his manager will provide Raw fans with a lot of interesting times together to look forward to."

In assessing the Eugene persona, the ex-employee wasn't surprised at all that the WWE would produce such a character.

"The WWF has some strange cultural roots, and some attitudes that are shameful. This is just one of them," said the source.

That is just f**king sick.

[jbailey84]

sure is

[game354]

well it seems that Stone Cold Steve Austin is no longer with the WWE once again. It sucks but hey third times a charm

[Kyle Katarn]

I liked him, he was entertaining...but if he's a habitual woman-beater then Vince SHOULD say "Screw you you're FIRED!"

[Se7en the movie]

stone cold's act was getting boring, if he ever comes back, for god's sake vince give him a better role rather then have him ruin bischoff's plans week in, week out.....

[Rogue]

http://www.wwe.com/news/headlines/1256373

More on Stone Cold's departure.

[Warren]

Meh. Good riddance. His act was getting stale, he did the same thing week in and week out.

[Se7en the movie]

glad we can agree on something Warren.....

[dragonfly104]

These are the backlash matches :

Lita vs. Victoria womens title
Tajiri vs. Coach
Kane vs. Edge
Shelton vs. Flair
Christian vs. Jhericho
The Final Encounter world heavyweight
Cactus vs. Orton intercontinential

[Se7en the movie]

eh......yes we know they are listed couple of posts above this (Or maybe another page)...........but thanks anyway.....

[ZombieMan]

Stone Cold's act was getting awfully stale, I agree.

[Inval1d]

Did anyone go out and see Kevin Nash in The Punisher. He played a Russian type assassin. He was real and i mean REAL big and had bleach blonde short hair. He looked like a sailor. then he later died by having hot steaming water thrown in his face and it practically melting

[slinger]

HBK taps to the sharpshooter, clean in the centre of the ring. Benoit retains! :D Didn't see the PPV, wish I could :(

[Inval1d]

Orton Beat Foley too in a bloodbath of a brawl I just read. :(

[ZombieMan]

It was a pretty good pay-per-view overall. I was pleased with what I saw. The Randy Orton vs. Mick Foley (Cactus Jack) match was by far the best of the PPV in my opinion. They beat the living hell out of each other, and Orton got thrown onto tacks with his bare back! The Jericho/Christian & Trish match bored the crap out of me. Glad to see Benoit retain his title in a decent match but I liked the Wrestlemania one better. The women's title match between Victoria and Lita surprisingly wasn't bad at all, I was entertained through the whole thing. Kane vs. Edge kind of bored me, the fans were even chanting "You guys suck".

[Rogue]

:applaud: EDGE! BENOIT! Tag titles! Sweeeet. Does this mean that Benoit is dropping the World Title in Phoenix to HBK?

[ZombieMan]

Possibly, I almost look for that to happen and an HBK heel turn.

[Wildcat7]

I would love to see HBK to win the title, but not to turn heel. I would also like to see Stone Cold to come back.

[ZombieMan]

Supposedly, Stone Cold Steve Austin is in talks with signing with New Japan Pro Wrestling. Oh well...

[Se7en the movie]

can someone explain the appeal of stone cold, i used to get it (and i liked him too) but now i dont........

[jbailey84]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
Supposedly, Stone Cold Steve Austin is in talks with signing with New Japan Pro Wrestling. Oh well...

yeah i read that he might go there to have a match with Goldberg

[Inval1d]

Eugene hitting Regal in the nuts with the Shirt Shooter was hilarious. :funny:

[Se7en the movie]

eugene = worst gimmick ever

[LordofKings]

I have been very busy lately and have missed the last few shows and wasn't even aware the PPV took place.

So HBK tapped to Benoit fair and square? what happened to HHH...wasn't he in the match?

The WWE has lost The ROCK (to movies) and now AUSTIN, i think that hurts b/c he was still their biggest name. I think HBK needs to go heel.

[ZombieMan]

Yes, Triple H was in the match but if I remember right, I think he was on the outside of the ring at the time being. I agree that HBK needs to become a heel. About Eugene, I agree with Inval1d all the way, that was hilarious when he hit Regal in the balls with the shirt gun! I love the Eugene gimmick, my wife and I joke about it all the time.

[dragonfly104]

Word Life baby , go Cena

[HotBoy]

Here's the latest from pro wrestling.com:

April 23, 2004 - Source: WrestlingObserver.com
Jim Ross confirmed in lastnight's Byte This! appearance that he is interested in bring Jeff Hardy back to WWE. Ross says it's one of the last things he is finishing up before moving on from Talent Relations.

WWE officials had spoken to Jeff about a possible WrestleMania XX return, however the deal was not made due to stubbornness from Jeff.

Ross says he hopes to have something positive to report about Jeff Hardy in the near future.

Now, that makes since after seeing the angle between Matt Hardy, Lita, and Kane last week.

[Warren]

Damn it. I hate Jeff.

[ZombieMan]

I like Jeff Hardy more than Matt Hardy and thats the straight up truth!

[jbailey84]

im the opposite of you zombie :D i like matt's character better but i like jeff's style bettter.

[Inval1d]

I'm with jbailey. :D

[Rogue]

Oh dear god - my dream come true! BRING BACK JEFF! *starts a chant*

[Frizzo the Clown]

Originally posted by Rogue
Oh dear god - my dream come true! BRING BACK JEFF! *starts a chant* My dream come true involves 17 goats, a vat of whipping cream, a polaroid camera, and unlimited bail money.

[Rogue]

Awww, I thought I was your dream come true? :(

[Frizzo the Clown]

Well, who do you think I want to be taking the pictures? ;)

[ZombieMan]

^^^ LMAOOOO, DAMN!

[A+]

Who's Eugene?

[Kyle Katarn]

Eugene is walking proof that the necrophilia storyline WASN'T the absolute lowest the WWE could go....

His gimmick: Bischoff's nephew who Regal has to baby-sit because he's mentally handicapped.

[ZombieMan]

I was glad to see my old boss Harley Race last night on Raw. I thought it was funny when Orton was making fun of him and spit in his face, good segment! I saw BJ (Harley's wife) sitting next to him in the crowd too and she seemed to be enjoying herself. I'm surprised that when Orton called Harley "old man" that he didn't come over the rail right then and there because in reality, Harley HATES being called old man and he will knock the crap out of someone for that! HAHAHAHA, cooooool beans!

[Rogue]

I hope Benjamin can destroy Orton. I'm so sick of anything having to do with Evolution.

[slinger]

interview with Kurt Angle

Michael Landsberg had a chance to sit down one-on-one wth 1996 Olympic gold medalist, and former mulit-time WWE champion Kurt Angle on Thursday to discuss his health, WrestleMania 19, and his future in the business.

To watch the entire episode, click here.

Landsberg started out by asking Kurt Angle, "How's your health?" Angle said that he had four years without an injury, and then he hit a wall, knee surgeries, two neck surgeries, and now he is going to have to have another neck surgery. He will be having his surgery in May, and should be back by August.

Michael asked Kurt if he would consider hanging up the tights, Kurt said that he's lived with cronic neck pain since 1996, when he broke his neck, and he used to have a doctor shoot his neck with Novocaine so that he could continue amateur wrestling.

Michael said, "You're a pretty mild mannered guy, you're not a threat to hurt anyone else, but you are definately a threat to yourself." Angle responded saying that until he had a baby girl last year, it wasn't a huge concern to him.

Michael talked about WrestleMania 19, and walked through the match between Kurt and Brock. Tape rolled of Angle walking to the ring. Kurt said "At this point I only had 20% strength in my left arm. The thing I was most nervous about was Brock Lesnar, he's a rookie.", Angle spoke briefly about Brock Lesnar, referring to his rookie status "He doesn't really know how to work yet, he's basically a loose cannon." "If I had Triple H, Chris Benoit, or Eddie Guerrero, I'm fine."..."As the match went on, I had less and less arm strength, and I couldn't lift my arm above my head." After the match, things were just as scary, "As I went backstage, I broke into a sweat, and I went into shock."

Michael said "Aren't you glad you got into something that's fake?" Angle responded saying "My body's more beat up in this than 20 years in amateur wrestling."

They then showed the Brock Lesnar shooting star press, "He wasn't hearing me at all, he was out, god forbid, I thought he was paralyzed.", on what he was thinking at the time, "When he missed me, the first thing that came to my mind was we're going to have two guys out. We're going to have the top two guys in the business out."

Landsberg then talked about Angle's first days in the "Funking Dojo" with Dory Funk Jr. Angle was in a crop of talent that included Val Venis, Test, Edge, and Christian, among others. Kurt started wrestling on a Monday, and was in his first pro wrestling match on a Friday.

"Are you worried that you have missed your chance due to injuries?" "Yes, I am, I'm never going to be the most popular ever. My goal was to be the best ever among my peers. Ric Flair, Bret Hart exactly. I've only given four and a half years."

Kurt is also worried that he won't get pushed high enough because of his injuries. He likened it to Eddie Guerrero, who could have been there two years ago, but had a drug problem. He's worried that WWE managment may not have enough faith in him because he might not be there long term due to his injuries.

Michael showed some video from three years ago when Kurt was on OTR, talking about pain killers, Michael followed up, asking if his opinion had changed on pain killers. Kurt responded saying "No, I can't say that I haven't taken a painkiller, I've got chronic neck pain. We go out there 250 days a year, how are you not going to take a Vicodin here, or a Percocet there? Vince McMahon has a strict agenda for us and he says 'If you screw up and get caught up in drugs, you're gone.'"

With the Olympics coming up, Landsberg if he's got the itch, Kurt responded by saying, "Nope, I don't have the itch. That part of my life is over."

The Quirky Fact going to break was: "If this wrestling thing doesnt work out for Kurt he could always take Landsbergs job. Before joining the WWE Kurt made his living as a sportscaster for Fox Sports in his hometown of Pittsburgh." However after the break Angle said; "I'm not good on that side, I'm good on this side. I wasn't very good at that."

Angle said that at 35 years old, there's no way he could go back and do amateur wrestling again.

Landsberg asked if he had helped to create respect for amateur wrestling, and respect for pro wrestling with amateurs.

"Brock might have never happened if it wasn't for Kurt, that gave a lot of guys the ambition to become pro wrestlers."

On whether amateur wrestlers respect what he does now, "Most of them, not all of them, some of them are so old school that they'll never change. This gives them a chance to display their skills that they learned in amateur wrestling. You take your amateur wrestling and bring it over to professional wrestling and gives you a whole new career."

When asked "What is Kurt Angle in the ring?" Angle responded; "I think Kurt Angle is as close to the real person as possible. I really am a gold medalist from Pittsburgh. We've pretty much gone with the real Kurt Angle."

When asked how he had changed in the last three years, he replied, "Well I'm bald. I think I've matured as far as the way I look at the business, the way I look at my family. I think I was more star struck with the WWE. Now I think I'd rather be at home with my wife and kid right now."

SmackDown will be at the Air Canada Centre on June 1st, and Angle says "This will be the first time in almost a year, with Rey Mysterio Jr., the Undertaker back, Eddie Guerrero will be here, it's going to be great."

Another great inteview, tsn.ca/wrestling has a link for the whole interview. Above covers pretty much everything. He did say that WrestleMania 20 could've been much better, it still was a great match, just if he was healthy he could've done more. Sounds like he might have 1-2 years left in him, depending on how the WWE uses him and if he can get by with no injuries. To me in his limited career he's one of the greats.

[Se7en the movie]

zombie man, who the hell are you? How do you know harley race?

wrestling training starts tomorrow!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!

[ZombieMan]

How do I know Harley Race? I went to his wrestling academy in Eldon, Missouri and got to know everyone really well. I'm a trained wrestler and also a trained referee. I can do either one because Harley's school teaches everthing that there is to do with wrestling! What do you mean wrestling training starts tomorrow? Are you training somewhere?!

[Inval1d]

Originally posted by Rogue
I hope Benjamin can destroy Orton. I'm so sick of anything having to do with Evolution.

me too.

[slinger]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
How do I know Harley Race? I went to his wrestling academy in Eldon, Missouri and got to know everyone really well. I'm a trained wrestler and also a trained referee. I can do either one because Harley's school teaches everthing that there is to do with wrestling! What do you mean wrestling training starts tomorrow? Are you training somewhere?!

Trained ref? So you fall down at the slightest touch and make sure to never watch the heels? If they want to make the product better they should use the refs better instead of the old predictable stuff where the ref goes down, he doesn't see etc. Try something new. Give the refs some personality. Remember when Nick Patrick was a heel ref in the WCW Invasion. So when the match starts and a certain ref is involved we know that something will happen. Really, Earl Hebner only gets 'You Screwed Bret Chants'. And whats his name is always involved with women matches. Not make it a 'special guest referee type match' but just so it adds an element. Certain refs would let things go like in other sports.

[Se7en the movie]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
How do I know Harley Race? I went to his wrestling academy in Eldon, Missouri and got to know everyone really well. I'm a trained wrestler and also a trained referee. I can do either one because Harley's school teaches everthing that there is to do with wrestling! What do you mean wrestling training starts tomorrow? Are you training somewhere?!

yeah i start wrestling training tomorrow. Its in a new school which opened in dublin.

[Inval1d]

WWE Experience is on too early(10 am, come on, i am not up that early) for me. do they replay it at night?

[m00se]

WWE is so not a sport.

[Rogue]

Taker is in action Thursday night and he has a match at JD! (everyone watch!!) Yes! I have a reason to watch SD again.

[Stowe22]

I agree with m00se.....but thats just me

[Inval1d]

this is not the WWE bashing thread.

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by slinger
Trained ref? So you fall down at the slightest touch and make sure to never watch the heels? If they want to make the product better they should use the refs better instead of the old predictable stuff where the ref goes down, he doesn't see etc. Try something new. Give the refs some personality. Remember when Nick Patrick was a heel ref in the WCW Invasion. So when the match starts and a certain ref is involved we know that something will happen. Really, Earl Hebner only gets 'You Screwed Bret Chants'. And whats his name is always involved with women matches. Not make it a 'special guest referee type match' but just so it adds an element. Certain refs would let things go like in other sports.

LMAO, dude you'll be happy to know that I'm totally not like that in the ring. I am different from any other referee, I have my own style and I don't let the wrestlers push me around much when I do referee, I will push them around right back. I have an attitude and the crowd loves that, it adds more to it because the fans always know that when a wrestler touches me, then **** hits the fan, hahaha! Sometimes "I don't see things" but sometimes I do and then get onto the wrestler, etc. And, yeah also this isn't a WWE bashing thread, take your bull**** elsewhere...

[slinger]

Winnipeg is getting a 'double shot' of WWE Television. Smackdown was already coming here July 6 and sales have been very good after two weeks. Chris Jericho (from Winnipeg) saw that SD! was coming to The Peg and just had enough. He talked to DeMarco (WWE Canada) and some WWE 'Brian Trust'. Basically he got RAW to appear in Winnipeg the night before. This rarely happnes and especially with a market this size. However, there are plenty of great wrestling fans here. (Raven is doing a show this week.)

All the other Canadian cities have gotten PPVs or RAW and Smackdowns, but never back-to-back. Maybe Toronto two years ago. The Arena is also being closed and replaced with a new one downtown. John Cena said earlier (on the same radio show) that is Smackdown sells out the WWE would take notice. They always want to be the first event in a new entertainment centers in North America. So perhaps a another RAW or possibly a PPV (depends what they do with Jericho) is in the future. I don't know my summer plan but it would be great to go.

[ZombieMan]

Se7en how was your wrestling training dude?

[Se7en the movie]

fan-****ing-tastic!
the clotheslines and chops were surprisingly stiff, we did suplexs and powerslams and simple (enough) hammerlocks and collar and elbow tie-ups! i absolutely loved it! I expected blake (the trainer) to be like a drill instructer (full metal jacket springs to mind) but he was really sound. My front bumps werent great but i'm only starting. All in all i am definately going next week.

[ZombieMan]

Awsome, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Clotheslines and chops are always going to be stiff and especially because chops are actually very real, lol. I'm surprised that they let you take powerslams and suplexes on the first day, you must have potential. Your lucky that your trainer wasn't like a drill instructor because my first trainer was like one and now where I train at, its more laid back. Front bumps are tough for alot of new trainees, but personally thats my best bump that I take and always has been since day 1. But yeah, glad to hear that you liked it and I hope you stick with it!

[Kyle Katarn]

****ING HHH!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :mad:

[Wildcat7]

Triple H sucks very bad. Shawn Micheals doesn't deserve that. He had the match won and I believe to make things better they need to make triple h a face again. Because I hate him as a heel. Great macth overall. The WWE screwed Shawn Micheals.

[Kyle Katarn]

When Vince showed up, I was thinking 'screwjob...' But didn't turn out the way I would have hoped...

[slinger]

Originally posted by Wildcat7
Triple H sucks very bad. Shawn Micheals doesn't deserve that. He had the match won and I believe to make things better they need to make triple h a face again. Because I hate him as a heel. Great macth overall. The WWE screwed Shawn Micheals.

Well he's doing his job. Pissing off people. But this HBK and HHH feud is just gone past longer than it should've. HBK doesn't need any more titles. The young stars need it.

[LordofKings]

Michaels isn't too old to hold the titles. In fact, other past title holders have been older then him and been huge stars. Michaels is still young. Isn't he like 39? who has been older champions? wasn't bret hart in 97 around 41/42 and he held the title around that time? my history's a little off so i might sound like an idiot.

i still think Michaels can be the biggest name in wrestling. to me hes the best in the bus right now, overall (on the mic and ring talent) but he needs a better gimick. GO HEEL HBK

[Warren]

Benoit deserves the title more than HBK. He's had it before. It's time for someone new. I hope Benoit holds it for a long time.

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by LordofKings
Michaels isn't too old to hold the titles. In fact, other past title holders have been older then him and been huge stars. Michaels is still young. Isn't he like 39? who has been older champions? wasn't bret hart in 97 around 41/42 and he held the title around that time? my history's a little off so i might sound like an idiot.

i still think Michaels can be the biggest name in wrestling. to me hes the best in the bus right now, overall (on the mic and ring talent) but he needs a better gimick. GO HEEL HBK


I kind of have to agree with you about Michaels needing the title. I think he is the best in the bus right now also, he still has it going good for him! He does need a better gimmick and a total heel turn from hell. Triple H doesn't need anymore shots at the title, I'm tired of him. This HBK vs. Benoit feud is awsome and I'm loving every bit of it! Benoit needs to keep the title for awhile but eventually it needs to lead up to HBK winning the title and then Triple H making a face turn in the future and challenging HBK for the title at Wrestlemania next year. Sounds good to me!

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
I kind of have to agree with you about Michaels needing the title. I think he is the best in the bus right now also, he still has it going good for him! He does need a better gimmick and a total heel turn from hell. Triple H doesn't need anymore shots at the title, I'm tired of him for now. This HBK vs. Benoit feud is awsome and I'm loving every bit of it! Benoit needs to keep the title for awhile but eventually it needs to lead up to HBK winning the title and then Triple H making a face turn in the future and challenging HBK for the title at Wrestlemania next year. Sounds good to me! ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE QUOTE BUTTON INSTEAD OF EDIT.

[Se7en the movie]

so what exactly happened here? did HBK turn heel? if so then thats great, cause he is a kick ass heel (see DX), also i think HHH needs to move away from the world title, maybe give orton (dont hurt me, you orton haters) a push and have HHH and him feud. Then again, what do i know?

[Inval1d]

'The Toy Headquarters' unleashed some huge news today as it revealed its future publishing plans for the company's WWE wrestling franchises. Announcing a total of three games in all, THQ not only addressed the question of when gamers can expect its next batch of grappling titles, but has also settled the question of what these titles are going to be called.

PS2: At the top of the announcement list was the revelation of the all-new Smackdown! title, WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw. Once again developed by the team at Yuke's, this sixth installment of mega-selling franchise will feature abundance of new options and games modes; with a particular attention paid to improving on the graphics for a more realistic presentation. The game will be released near the end of October/beginning of November.

XBOX: THQ also confirmed that it has done away with its Raw franchise altogether and has instead replaced it with the former GameCube property, WrestleMania. To be more formally known as WWE WrestleMania XXI, the game will not only boast an all-new developer (Studio Gigante of Tao Feng fame), it will also introduce plenty of original game modes and improved television style visuals. Expect to see it debut simultaneously with the WrestleMania XXI event next year.

GameBoy Advance: The final game on the list is the all-new Game Boy Advance SKU, WWE Survivor Series. The first game for the GBA WWE title in two years, Survivor Series should boast a ton of new features over its predecessor in addition to a variety of match types. No other details other than its release date (Holiday 2004) were given.

-WE!

cool. XBOX is getting Wrestlemania :D

[jbailey84]

from rajah.com

Badd Blood Spoilers?

-Radio advertisements in Columbus, OH are advertising Kane vs. Chris Benoit for the World Title and Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels in a Hell in the Cell match for June’s Bad Blood PPV.

[Starwars411]

I would like to see a Kane vs. Benoit match, but Micheals and Triple H need to stop wrestling each other and fight other people, it's getting old.

[Inval1d]

They are ruining the HIAC tradition. they use it too much now and the aren't that violent. :(

[slinger]

Originally posted by Inval1d
They are ruining the HIAC tradition. they use it too much now and the aren't that violent. :(

Well I think Vince wants to keep his stars healthy as possible. The Taker-Lesner/Heyman HIAC was good and it wasn't that violent nor did they leave the cell. Taker was probably the darkest crimson mask you'll ever see.

HIAC is usually used once or twice a year, the brand extension makes it one per brand. But if this is ture HHH has been in a few of late. Y2J and Nash both lost to HHH.

I'd much rather see a Kane-Benoit HIAC match. But since HHH-HBK have used so many gimmick matches (Street Fights, Cage, Elimination Chamber, Triple Threats, Last Man Standing) they need something to top the previous ones. Benoit looks primmed for a SummerSlam match with Hunter then.

[Inval1d]

i think Taker should be in atleast one last bloody/violent one with his Deadman Gimmick. But not with Booker T. Possibly a different fued..

[Colorado Cajun]

Hmm Kane vs Benoit could be damn good if pulled of right. No matter what the match, HHH and Shawn always bust their asses and deliver. I'm looking forward to it

[ZombieMan]

Kane vs. Benoit would be a pretty cool match to see and I agree with Colorado Cajun, if its pulled off right. As for Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels, well whatever floats Vince's boat but I'm not too excited about this match unless Triple H turns face.

[Inval1d]

YAY! Eugene Won!

I see they were gonna try to get rid of that gimmick real fast.

[slinger]

Nice cage match.

[Inval1d]

We have just been told that Brian 'Grandmaster Sexay" Lawler was fired from WWE upon arriving to RAW last night. We do not have very many details on this other than the fact that Lawler showed up late to one of the RAW brand house shows this weekend and was warned by management.

Lawler was told that if he showed up late again to a WWE event he would be fined.

Christopher had previously been released by WWE in 2001 after being arrested in Canada and charged with possession of illegal drugs. Christopher, real name Brian Lawler, pled guilty to possession of cocaine.

~ WE.com


WOW, that was a quick career in the WWE again..

[ZombieMan]

Brian is going to have to watch him self a little closer. He can't go showing up late to shows being that he just came back from being fired. Its obvious that he is kind of on probation with WWE and they are watching every move he makes.

[Kyle Katarn]

Uhh...too little too late for him now! :eek:

[Inval1d]

yeah. :funny:

[ZombieMan]

But from what I've heard, the firing isn't confirmed. It was a word of mouth firing and completely verbal. Never know, but he could be gone. I'll have to check WWE.COM and see if he is taken off the roster.

[Se7en the movie]

oh man! Those suplexes are hard!

Brian Christopher about to be fired? Despite him being the best of the Too Cool posse, he will still be a small loss

[jbailey84]

that sucks. "hey welcome back...you're fired!"

[ZombieMan]

LMAO yeahhh...

[slinger]

Now that is a Crimson Mask!

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20040517/judgement_day_42337.jpg

Sounds like the PPV sucked. Which isn't good news since Smackdown will try another one next month.
The Great American Bash! Unless RVD turns heel and JBL does something to get legit heat it'll suck. Then they have Vengeance and SummerSlam following that.

[ZombieMan]

In my opinion this John Bradshaw Layfield angle just sucks, it is the wrong thing for WWE to do. Personally I think a Rob Van Dam heel turn would set up for an awsome feud and awsome angle between him and Eddie Guerrero. Hell, even Booker T against Eddie Guerrero wouldn't be so bad!

[jbailey84]

RVD Vs Eddie would be great. RVD deserves the title. or just have a Triple Threat between RVD Vs Booker T Vs Eddie for the title

[Inval1d]

who is that bloody guy?

[spiderman_2k]

Eddie

[Inval1d]

holy crap he is un-recognizable...

[Inval1d]

the battle royal was crazy. i'm glad HHH didn't win.


Eugene and Rock were hilarious.

[HotBoy]

I loved RAW tonight!!!

I liked the idea of Randy Orton v. Shelton Benjamin, but I didn't like that "problem with you people" statement that Orton made.

As for Eugene, and The Rock, I loved every minute of it!!!

[ZombieMan]

Eugene/Rock segment was hilarious and I was laughing my ass off! Good stuff, and still yet this Lita and Matt vs. Kane angle leads on even though Kane has his shot at the Heavyweight title. They need to just get this damn angle done and over already, its sickening me. Lita can't act worth a ****, Kane isn't good on the mic, etc.

[Inval1d]

it's all opening up for Jeff Hardy. I can see it coming! :D

[slinger]

Originally posted by HotBoy
I loved RAW tonight!!!

I liked the idea of Randy Orton v. Shelton Benjamin, but I didn't like that "problem with you people" statement that Orton made.

As for Eugene, and The Rock, I loved every minute of it!!!

It would be great to see Orton vs Benjamin vs Edge for the IC Title at Bad Blood.

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by Inval1d
it's all opening up for Jeff Hardy. I can see it coming! :D

Oh yes! I definitly agree with that. Actually I can't wait to see Jeff back because I was a big fan, but I'm not as much into Matt.

[Rogue]

The Eugene/Rock thing was classic. I about pissed my pants when he came out! Then Eugene saying "It doesn't matter what you think!!" Funniest thing.

About the PPV, it wasn't all that bad, surprisingly. It was quite good for a SD! production. The main event was crazy, I didn't like the DQ ending but I guess you can't get what you want all the time. It set up some good stuff for the future, lets just all hope that Creative doesn't screw it up.

[jbailey84]

did any one realize that just five years ago, Owen Hart tragically passed away during the 'Over The Edge' pay-per-view at the Kemper Arena? has it been that long?

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/jbailey84/untitled.bmp

[slinger]

Just saw on another site... :(

[Warren]

RIP Owen, one of the greatest to never hold the World title.

[Kyle Katarn]

*raises glass of cranberry juice to salute Owen* :cool:

[Se7en the movie]

'ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!' owen was as much a genius on the mic as he was in the ring

[Inval1d]

RIP Owen


i remember that day i heard the tragic news. It was sad. The RAW episode was one of the best.

[ZombieMan]

RIP Owen Hart, one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. Quite sad indeed. On the bright side of things check this out.

By Ryan Clark
WrestlingInc.com Staff
May 24, 2004

Tonight on RAW:
Eugene and William Regal vs. Garrison Cade and The Coach

Ric Flair vs. Edge

Lita's answer for Kane, Yes or No.

(Sounds like a good Raw coming up tonight, I'm really looking forward to seeing some good wrestling between Ric Flair and Edge! Also EUGENE IN ACTION, YAYYYY!!!

[Colorado Cajun]

Eugene is cool and I like Regal as long as he is Eugene's trainer and not a wrestler. Cade and Coach are a waste imo

Flair has got to give up wrestling and just manage already

I hope they do something good with this whole Lita and Kane and Matt angle. It needs a damn good payoff and not some stupid ass WWE one

[Inval1d]

Eugene did Benoits move! :D

and just to say it....


Lita was looking good tonight, Victoria was hot too. :D :D

[ZombieMan]

To Colorado Cajun about the Lita and Matt/Kane angle, I think personally that it could lead into Jeff Hardy returning but I could be wrong. I know there was talks anyhow, so that would be an awsome pay off! Also I have to agree with Inval1d, Lita and Victoria were looking phenomenal last night on Raw!

[Inval1d]

i hope Jeff returns. I would be so happy. :D

[Warren]

I don't like Jeff. He never really appealed to me.

[Colorado Cajun]

Now I'm seeing a whole I"m having Kane's baby angle with Lita lol

[Inval1d]

for some reason i sensed that too. or either "I'm cheating on you with Kane" Angle.

but if it was Pregnant Lita... i would expect a mae young baby. A HAND! :D

[jbailey84]

from rajah.com

if this is the card for the ppv, really not that bad.

"The WWE Great American Bash PPV card has been released and posted on the Norfolk Scopes website. Remember, cards are always subject to change.

WWE Championship – Bull Rope Match
- Eddie Guerrero vs. JBL in a Bullrope Match for the WWE Title

Handicap Match
- The Undertaker vs. The Dudley Boys

United States Championship
- John Cena vs. Booker T for the WWE U.S. Title

Flag Match
- Rob Van Dam vs. Rene Dupree

- Rey Mysterio vs. Mark Jindrak

WWE Tag Team Championship
- Rico & Charlie Haas vs. Chavo Guerrero & Chavo Classic

- Kenzo Suzuki vs. TBA

Divas Beach Competition
Dawn and Sable vs. Torrie and Miss Jackie (sub for Sable would be Jacqueline)

- The Divas would get on top of each other’s shoulders and wrestle each other down into the ocean (a game of “chicken” fighting). The first Diva to fall off of the top of the other’s shoulders loses
- Beach Volleyball Match
- Sand Box Match – Dawn vs. Sable vs. Torrie vs. Miss Jackie Fatal 4 Way in the sand"

[ZombieMan]

Sounds like a pretty good pay-per-view lineup to me. I read that on Rajah today too, wonder where they got that info? Can't wait to see Kenzo Suzuki!

[Se7en the movie]

i would've prefered chavo guerraro vs. classic for cruiserweight. also is classic within the weight restrictions to be a cruiserweight

[ZombieMan]

Is it just me or did Raw kind of suck last night? I just wasn't really impressed.

[Inval1d]

same here Zombie..

[slinger]

Jamie Noble is a lucky guy...

[Darth Venom]

Raw has sucked ever since the Mcmahon and Austin fued ended.

[Inval1d]

it started it's suck ever since the draft too..

[ZombieMan]

I've always hated the "roster split" or "brand extension" or whatever the hell they want to call it. It was a horrible idea and it makes me not as interested because mainly I don't get UPN anymore.

[Inval1d]

i haven't seen smackdown in a long time. I get UPN too. i just don't seem to watch it a lot. Only if there are cool things in the spoilers. I watch RAW mainly and that seems to suck lately.

[Inval1d]

Does anybody know of any sites which list all of the Current/Former WWE/F Women Wrestlers? I need it for an Upcoming project..

[ZombieMan]

Yeah dude, go to

http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/other/moves.htm

That has the info you would need!

[Inval1d]

hey i was there but only found the womens titles holders. i need every diva. but that's ok.

[Se7en the movie]

didnt see RAW this week, but i did see Kane getting 'beaten' by eugene silly....silly move if they want kane to be a serious title contender. You know with eugene really getting over, i think vince wants to put as much of him on RAW as possible....i have a bad feeling this is gonna backfire

[Inval1d]

The reason why the fan got thrown out of the Arena at the Passport to Pain tour in Munich last night was JBL did a Nazi salute in the ring two times during the main event. A fan got mad about it and wanted to attack JBL for his actions. The Nazi salute is strictly prohibited in Germany, even foreigners can be punished by German law for such activities. It's really sad that a person needs to use such things to draw "cheap heat".


wow that is sad..

[Inval1d]

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/heilbradshaw.jpg

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/heilbradshaw.jpg

:funny:

[ZombieMan]

Raw was kind of boring again tonight. But I am still going to order Badd Blood this Sunday. Who else is going to watch it? I will post up my predictions later. Also what match are you most looking forward to? I'm actually looking forward to seeing Eugene whip Coach's ass believe it or not.

[Inval1d]

i'm not going to get it. the only reason i would probably get it is because of the HIAC. i'm looking forward to hearing about Eugene whipping coaches ass.

RAW was boring tonight also.

[Kyle Katarn]

I liked the main event last night....seeing HBK go beserk and destroy Evolution was AWESOME! :cool:

[LordofKings]

what happened on Raw last night? i missed it. can someone just tell me what HBK did, i really don't care about anything else. did he win his match?

[Se7en the movie]

is bad blood on this sunday? i've missed quite a few RAWs so could someone post the card for bad blood?

[Inval1d]

HBK was busted open and he was wrestling Orton. Batista came down and interfered but got Sweet Chin Musiced by HBK. he then SCM Orton and got a chair and started to beat Orton and Batista with it. He point and HHH and went up to the skybox where he was at. Flair tried to catch him at the stairs but HBK threw Flair down the stairs and kept going. He made it to the box and then HHH and HBK beat the living crap outta each other.


i couldn't find a site with the matches but i'll try later.


WWE.com is trying to toy with the fans. look at this headline:

BIG NEWS: Stone Cold signs... his cooler. And you can own it!

:funny:

[ZombieMan]

Yeah thats tricked me at first about Austin "signing".....THE COOLER. Bunch of bastards, lol.

[Inval1d]

i know right. :funny:

[Inval1d]

John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield has been fired by CNBC in the past few hours, after finding out and investigating the “Nazi” incident which occurred on the German leg of WWE’s European tour. More information on said incident can be found on the newsboard a few posts down.

-- CNBC, as I said, investigated the incident and a spokesperson for the company said that they “found his behavior to be offensive, inappropriate and not benefiting anyone associated with our network”.

-WE

:lol: :funny:

i found the card for Bad Blood

- Hell In A Cell: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels.
- World Champion Chris Benoit vs. Kane.
- World Tag Team Champions La Resistance vs. Chris Benoit & Edge.
- Intercontinental Champion Randy Orton vs. Shelton Benjamin.
- Women's Champion Victoria vs. Gail Kim vs. Lita vs. Trish Stratus.
- Chris Jericho vs. Tyson Tomko.
- Eugene vs. Jonathan Coachman

[ZombieMan]

My WWE Bad Blood predictions below!

Hell In A Cell: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
WINNER: SHAWN MICHAELS

World Heavyweight Title Match: Chris Benoit (c) vs. Kane
WINNER: KANE

World Tag Team Title Match: La Resistance (c) vs. Benoit and Edge
WINNERS: BENOIT AND EDGE

Intercontinental Title Match: Randy Orton (c) vs. Shelton Benjamin
WINNER: SHELTON BENJAMIN

Women Title Match: Victoria (c) vs. Gail Kim vs. Trish Stratus vs. Lita
WINNER: GAIL KIM

Grudge Match: Chris Jericho vs. Tyson Tomko
WINNER: CHRIS JERICHO

Grudge Match: Eugene vs. Johnathon Coachman
WINNER: EUGENE

I personally think every title will change hands at Bad Blood. I could be TOTALLY wrong, just my predictions though!

[jbailey84]

gail kim still wrestles? didnt she disappear there for a while? i havent watched it since Nov '03 cause we still havent that Sky Digital Cable yet here in Germany :(

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by jbailey84
gail kim still wrestles? didnt she disappear there for a while? i havent watched it since Nov '03 cause we still havent that Sky Digital Cable yet here in Germany :(

Yeah Gail Kim is still wrestling, and yes she did disappear there for awhile. I'm not sure on that situation, she could have been injured or they just didn't have a spot in the storylines for her? Anyhow, being that your from Germany and a WWE fan. I'm just curious, what is your take on the John Layfield Bradshaw/WWE incident when they were in Munich? He did the Hitler salutes and marched around the ring in his match and is now in deep ****. Did that offend you pretty bad? I think its turning into a serious situation over there.

[jbailey84]

Originally posted by ZombieMan
Anyhow, being that your from Germany and a WWE fan. I'm just curious, what is your take on the John Layfield Bradshaw/WWE incident when they were in Munich? He did the Hitler salutes and marched around the ring in his match and is now in deep ****. Did that offend you pretty bad? I think its turning into a serious situation over there.

im actually american, just living here in germany with my parents cause my dad(air force) got orders to germany for 4 years. but i told my friends that are german about it and they laughed about it cause its a very stupid thing to do in germany. the hitler salute & using the word Nazi towards someone is a huge big no no. other than that, bradshaw could have done something better like got on the mic and spoke some german slang & not disrespect a country by doing the hitler salute.

[Inval1d]

So saying Nazi in Germany is equal to calling an African-American the N-Word?

wow. that's something i learned...

[ZombieMan]

Originally posted by Inval1d
So saying Nazi in Germany is equal to calling an African-American the N-Word?

wow. that's something i learned...

Yep, learn something new everyday!

[Inval1d]

Germany must be very strict about nazism

[jbailey84]

Originally posted by Inval1d
Germany must be very strict about nazism yeah they are, but they're very nice people and it's a beautiful country to live in. :)

here are the results from last nights PPV Bad Blood.

La Resistance vs Edge/Benoit
Winners: Edge/Benoit via DQ

Chris Jericho vs Tyson Tomko
Winner: Jericho by pinfall

Randy Orton vs Shelton Benjamin
Winner: Randy Orton by pinfall

Fatal Four Way Women’s Match
Winner: New Champion Trish

Eugene vs Coach
Winner: Eugene by pinfall

Chris Benoit vs Kane
Winner: Benoit by pinfall

Triple H vs Shawn Michaels: Hell In The Cell
Winner: hHh by pinfall


did anyone watch? i heard that the HHH/HBK match was almost on hour long!