Michael Jackson Dies ?

[quiksilver022]

Story developing ... Multiple outlets are reporting MJ has suffered cardiac arrest and was not breathing at all, and may have already passed away. His comeback tour is/was set to kick off July 13th..

http://x17online.com/

[ViRUs]

I heard about this too, TMZ is reporting it, but I heard them reference it from a radio show. I havent confirmed this from anywhere else though.

[Deexan]

Oh man, this is so sad...












I've got 3 tickets to his London show!

[Diablo]

No way...

[ViRUs]

It's not 100% confirmed yet, but everyone on the show keeps saying that TMZ is pretty accurate.


Wow, just wow. He was a crazy guy, but a heck of a entertainer.

[quiksilver022]

TMZ is always pretty accurate.. They were always first about the whole Britney Spears saga, so I'm going to believe them. People and X17 are also reporting he is dead.

..This media frenzy reminds me of Anna Nicole's death and Britney's hospitilization.

[JBond]

Holy crap...

[ViRUs]

Yeah, those were both shockers as well.

Still cant find any other source to confirm this though....

*Edit* I just turned on CNN and they are still saying he was hospitalized.....

[Sculder]

CNN International is covering this as just "Hospitalized" right now

[Boiiinng]

What the..?

It still says no official confirmation, just hospitalized. Doesn't sound good.

[jbailey84]

MSN.com is reporting that he is being Hospitalized, and Yahoo.com is reporting that TMZ is saying that he is dead.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/pop-star-michael-jackson-dead-report/24333?nc

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=416300&gt1=28102

[Deexan]

LA Times says he's in a coma.

[ViRUs]

lol, all of these different stories are funny.

[JBond]

Now all we need is a newspaper to saying he's camping in Argentina.

[Sculder]

LA Times says he's in a coma.

CNN also reports that

[Diablo]

CNN now reporting as well he's in a coma.

[ViRUs]

The New York Times just did report that actually...... ;)


Now CNN is reporting he is in a coma as well. They also say that being in a coma because of cardiac arrest isnt a good sign at all.

[Deexan]

He's playing golf on the moon with 2 Pac and Elvis right about...now.

[JBond]

But now MSN.com says he's dead.

[Deexan]

As does the LA Times...

[Diablo]

Wow, he's dead.

RIP King of Pop. :(

[Tornado]

****... R.I.P. Michael. :(

[ViRUs]

CNN is still working to confirm the death, but keeps referencing LA times.


Wow, RIP Michael.

[quiksilver022]

LA Times, CBS, TMZ, X17 all now reporting he is dead. CNN waiting for their sources to confirm.

[jbailey84]

damn, that is insane.

R.I.P. Michael

thanks for the music

[quiksilver022]

Was looking forward to his new album. Hopefully it's partially complete so they can release SOMETHING. That album is yeears in the making.

[IanTheCool]

Wow, this was unexpected.

[Tolkien]

Holy f**k, that's just nuts! :( He was my favorite singer of all-time.

The man is a god damn legend for crying out loud. :(

[jbailey84]

yea he may have been weird outside of music, but damn he had some great awesome hits!

[Deexan]

Paul McCartney will sleep easy tonight.

[Tolkien]

...not very funny... not very funny at all.

[HotBoy]

Michael, thank you for the joy you have given us!!!

http://pragmaticideas.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/michaeljackson.jpg

MICHAEL JACKSON R.I.P

[Boiiinng]

Giant crowd and makeshift memorial out in front of the hospital already.

[ViRUs]

I know, they gathered quickly. I was amazed at how many hardcore fans are still out there.

[sshuttari]

R.I.P sad day...

[halo7]

...not very funny... not very funny at all.

Come on, it was a little funny.

At least he didn't mention how the dignity of hundreds of young boys has been spared today.


Woops.

[Tolkien]

I know, they gathered quickly. I was amazed at how many hardcore fans are still out there.
We may not come out as much because he doesn't perform anymore, but we're still here.

[Diablo]

CNN playing clips from Thriller. Damn, just damn.

[iv3rdawG]

AP-ObLX7lZc

RIP

[jbailey84]

i just heard a clip of Thriller on the news and man that made me tear up some.

i remember that from BTTF II. dont forget Men In Black II as well.

[Boiiinng]

The "they go in threes" curse lives on.

Ed
Farrah
Michael

Ugh.

Plus my company laid off 25 people.

This week sucks.

[quiksilver022]

You'd think the Pope died, judging by the amount of people and paparazzi flocked outside UCLA and his home. Just shows how relevant he's stayed after all these years.. Another Hollywood ending for a heavyweight legend.

[Boiiinng]

CNN still not confirmed. They must have the hospital locked down tight.

[Dracula]

I'm predicting this was because of a plastic surgery gone wrong (like Kanye West's mother). I called David Carradine right, lets see if I can keep up my winning streak.

[halo7]

http://ismichaeljacksonalive.com/

[Boiiinng]

http://ismichaeljacksonalive.com/

Good grief.

[Tornado]

lol, oh that's kind of dark.

[Boiiinng]

Apparently Twitter crashed.

[sabin26]

Never been a huge fan of Michael, but it's sad to hear. He is on to bigger and better things now.

[Boiiinng]

CNN confirms from LA coroner: Michael Jackson dead at 50.

[sshuttari]

http://ismichaeljacksonalive.com/

not cool dude.:mad:

[Deexan]

Death should be both a celebration of glories and a recognition of failures, and there's no better way of recognizing and accepting failure than laughing at it.

MJ, like the rest of civilization, is not beyond reproach.

[Ewok Droppings]

Come on, it was a little funny.

At least he didn't mention how the dignity of hundreds of young boys has been spared today.


Woops.

Hey now - let's be respectful. Think of all the children he touched throughout his life!

[HotBoy]

Question: Has anyone in the news media talked to Janet Jackson about MIchael's passing away?

[FVD]

Bloody hell this is a catastrophic shock. First Ed McMahon then Farrah Fawcett and now Michael. :(

There were also reports that Jeff Goldblum died while filming a movie in NZ too.

[quiksilver022]

I think it's absolutely insane how fast word travels through this generation - This afternoon I hopped on my Twitter, saw a tweet saying "X17 Confirms MJ Death", immediately headed over to X17, Googled it, and within 5 minutes it was EVERYWHERE, with coverage on CNN, CBS, X17, TMZ, ABC etc. etc. etc. Michael held every trending topic on Twitter, and even caused Twitter, Facebook and AIM to crash due to heavy traffic and discussion. Only Michael Jackson is capable of crashing the internet. We probably found out about his death sooner than most of his family did.

Crazy how all this happens DAYS before the comeback tour.. Each show was expected to haul in $10 million. That's $500 million in the end.. I feel sorry for all the fans who bought tickets, booked flights and hotels without insurance..

[Where's my elephant?]

As someone born in the 1st year of the 80s, I'm grateful for his Thriller and Bad songs to take me back to my childhood. Hell, even that "Say 3x" song with McCartney. Plus, I loved watching Moonwalker on Showtime when I was a kid. I actually saw the premiere of it on that network when I was 8. I just got Bad on iTunes in honor of his memory today since I already have Off the Wall and Thriller.

RIP.

[Carnage Escobar]

This truly is sad. I'll admit that this is the first time I've every shed a tear over the loss of a celebrity. But not just any celebrity. An icon. A musical legend. A figure in the annals of of human history that will NEVER have such an impact on pop culture as he did. He may have not been the best human being ever, but goddamnit.........



He IS the greatest entertainer of all time.





R.I.P Mike. Thanks for all the great music

[PsYkOoOoO]

I don't care if he was weird in life, his music kicked so much as. Moonwalk your way to Heaven, Michael.

[krushgroove19]

this is the first time i've cried at a celebrity's death since Hunter S. Thompson.

RIP Michael Jackson.

[prongsfan1989]

oh my gosh, i was watching it on Global News. They had a breaking news bulletin about it. I was so shocked and so saddened. Some day this turned
out to be. Both Farrah and Michael. This is a really tragic day in Hollywood.
R.I.P Farrah and Michael and my condolences go out to their friends and family. :(:waa:

[Steve from Indy]

Well for me he's been dead for 20 odd years. The Michael I grew up with is long gone, but it's still sad to see it end this way, but honestly not all that shocking. I'm convinced his father did this to him. That family is seriously ****ed up. Thus ends a great talent and a sad saga.

RIP

[FranklinTard]

wonder if there are any creepy fans that will be buying neverland ranch or whatever.

[jbailey84]

they said there were probably fans outside there

[saveus1011]

MJ, like the rest of civilization, is not beyond reproach.

When it comes to our national security, no one is beyond reproach...or some other government mumbo jumbo.

[Nilade]

RIP michael. I don't care what anyone says about you, you were loved.

[Neverending]

This being CS, we should all go see The Wiz in his honor.

[Tolkien]

I was thinking more along the lines of "Moonwalker". :)

I can remember seeing it at least 20 times while growing up.

[Ramplate]

I was a big fan of the Jackson 5 when I was a kid - watched the cartoon and ruined a couple of phonograph needles playing the silly records you cut off the backs of cereal boxes - yeah they were made of like a laminated cardboard.
Loved ABC, I Want You Back, I'll Be There, Never Can Say Goodbye, Dancing Machine
I also liked some of his early solo stuff - wasn't really fond of Billie Jean and Thriller, Bad, or Beat It , But Rock With You was a good tune- but Black Or White and especially his song Man In The Mirror will stand out for me because of the strong valuable message he got across with those.

Wow - Just 2 years older than me, and I'm in worse shape. Maybe it was the prescription drugs and all the stress of the trials. We shall see after about 3 - 4 weeks.

Say what you want about his later years ( and I'll keep my opinion of the weirdness to myself for now - weird as it was) but we have lost a legend.

[Big-Lead5]

Ramplate i used watch Jackson 5 Cartoon too

I'm still in little shock hes gone RIP Michael

[Boiiinng]

I was thinking more along the lines of "Moonwalker". :)

I can remember seeing it at least 20 times while growing up.

Me, too. I've tried to find that numerous times. Try finding a cheap one on eBay now.

Wow - Just 2 years older than me, and I'm in worse shape. Maybe it was the prescription drugs and all the stress of the trials. We shall see after about 3 - 4 weeks.

Apparently he became addicted to Demerol back when his hair caught fire and ended up going to Betty Ford. But the addiction may have never ceased. Someone has leaked that his aides said he gave himself a big dose of it prior to going into arrest and that his personal doctor gave him daily doses of it. Now that doctor cannot be found. Hmmm...

[HotBoy]

Here's a rare interview with MJ, courtesy of YouTube.com!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mExMI0PclY&feature=channel_page

[quiksilver022]

I think his parents played a large part in his depression - working since the age of 5 has gotta put a mental and emotional drain on a person. I don't believe he ever molested anybody, I think he genuinely just liked spending time with children (making up for lost time). I don't understand why people were so shocked by this - there was never anything normal about him in the first place. I'm still pretty sure he was gay, which probably contributed to a lot of his depression - the failed marriages, the PR stunt hook-ups, the surrogate mothers.. Not that it matters, but he probably just died of loneliness. He's surrounded by nothing but leeches and lawyers. I'd go crazy, too.

[Boiiinng]

I think his parents played a large part in his depression - working since the age of 5 has gotta put a mental and emotional drain on a person. I don't believe he ever molested anybody, I think he genuinely just liked spending time with children (making up for lost time). I don't understand why people were so shocked by this - there was never anything normal about him in the first place. I'm still pretty sure he was gay, which probably contributed to a lot of his depression - the failed marriages, the PR stunt hook-ups, the surrogate mothers.. Not that it matters, but he probably just died of loneliness. He's surrounded by nothing but leeches and lawyers. I'd go crazy, too.

Have you seen the TV movie "The Jacksons: An American Dream"? I can't remember how much of this was in it, but their father routinely beat them when they missed notes or dance steps and terrified them throughout their childhood. Much of his weird ways stem from being one of the youngest kids in the family and really not having a normal childhood. So he tried to create one for himself by having an amusement park and child friends.

[Necross]

Thats exactly how I always it as well. Guy needed a lot of help. I am still kinda shocked he's gone, Michael Jackson was just one of those names I thought I'd be hearing until I was 50, and not in the past tense.

[Ramplate]

yeah his childhood messed him up for sure - in the public eye since he was about 6 with a heavy handed task master of a father.
It was stress, drugs, and paranoia for sure.

During his child molestation trial it came out that the cops found a huge amount of prescription drugs on his night stand that had all kinds of various names they were precsribed to - i.e. he got a lot of prescriptions in other people's names. He also surrounded himself with "yes men" - if they didn't give him what he wanted - they got fired. So a lot of hangers on, enabled him to get hooked on pain killers - so yeah - ultimately he did it to himself.

[jbailey84]

Mr. "Jeffersons" Wishing Tree

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[quiksilver022]

Was watching CNN, and one of the reporters made a really good point..

Michael's entire career has been about breaking down borders and unifying everyone.. think about it - men, women, old, young, gay, straight, black, white.. In a lot of his videos there's a common theme of transformation, and he himself fits (in some way) into everyone of the above categories - he's obviously a man, but has many woman-like features, he was a fifty year old man but still had a sense of childlike wonder and no sense of what was so wrong about hanging out with younger people, he's dated women, but never for very long, and he was born black, but transitioned to white. He pretty much represents everything our world is trying so desperately to accomplish, with regards to equality and unity.

Crazy how someone has to die for the world to realize just how great someone was.

[ZombieMan]

LOL, Jbailey I remember that episode. The wishing tree, I remember it well.

[FranklinTard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVACUjHn6yU



hilarious. true. catchy.

(vulgar language, and humor, you have been warned)

[Ewok Droppings]

"MJ is dead - don't pretend you give a ****." True - very, very true. Everyone is all up in arms and wailing and moaning over Michael Jackson calling him an American icon. If a bankrupt, child molester is an American icon then America is really in trouble. I liked some of his music - but MJ was not a great man. Sorry.

[Doomsday]

Haha that was pretty good.

They just had on the news how a lot of African Americans are upset because people are focusing on his checkered past along with his legacy, saying 'We didn't do that to Elvis, we didn't do that to JFK when they died.' OK, but Elvis and JFK didn't have tons of plastic surgery, they weren't accused of being child molesters, they didn't build entire complexes dedicated to childhood fantasy for their own personal use, and do this stuff for almost the last 20 years while seldom releasing new music. Sorry, but for a 24 year old like myself, I've mostly grown up with MJ being a punchline.

[Jordan KO]

to bad mj but really what has he done oother then molest children in the past decade. its ironic he was about to have a come back tour in europe

[Ramplate]

We sure have done that with both Elvis and JFK.

There was a big bruhaha about Elvis kicking the bucket on the toilet because of all the drugs he took - everyone commented on how fat he was, and all the stuff about his misuse of guns, his meeting with Nixon to "become" an 'FBI Agent' and all that silly stuff about the mansion and his lifestyle.

JFK was a different era where the press held a lot of secrets, but that all has come to light since - infidelity, wild parties, the Monroe death scandal, links with the mob, the health problems he secretly suffered from, his father's underhanded conduct, and all the other family scandals they have had.

Both have been raked over the coals since death

[Ramplate]

Oh and technically Jackson was never convicted

[Doomsday]

Yeah but our generation didn't come up with Elvis or JFK, and even if we did, their blunders didn't stretch over half their careers like Jackson's. Who knows how MJ will be seen 30 years from now, hopefully with respect and admiration, but these past 15-20 years that have been nothing but a sideshow for the guy probably won't go away anytime soon.

[jbailey84]

Haha that was pretty good.

They just had on the news how a lot of African Americans are upset because people are focusing on his checkered past along with his legacy, saying 'We didn't do that to Elvis, we didn't do that to JFK when they died.' OK, but Elvis and JFK didn't have tons of plastic surgery, they weren't accused of being child molesters, they didn't build entire complexes dedicated to childhood fantasy for their own personal use, and do this stuff for almost the last 20 years while seldom releasing new music. Sorry, but for a 24 year old like myself, I've mostly grown up with MJ being a punchline.

you're 24? i thought you were older for some reason.

i agree with you, im 25 and grew up with MJ being a punchline with something. i agree about in 30 years, what will MJ be seen as. He his a music legend, but those child molestation charges and plastic surgery really messed up his view as a person.

[ViRUs]

I agree in a way. I just think regardless of what he did (or didnt do) he still changed music, and how we see it today. He sort of paved the way for a lot of black singers and rappers, especially the R&B like ones, like Usher, John Legend, Common, etc.

Also, without him there would probably be no MTV or VH1 even because he was such a visual performer and was better to watch than just hear.

I'm not defending the man by any means, I just think he deserves some credit. I'm 23 and have heard a lot of punchlines on him, and I cant say that they werent funny, I laughed. I guess now that he died, I just have learned a lot about him and realize what he did in the music world.

[sshuttari]

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What a F***ING A**HOLE!

He exploited him when he was in a child...so true to form, he's doing it in his death.I found myself almost gasping when he made one of the men stand on the podium with him to say they were starting a company together. Unbelievable.

You can see the interviewer getting a little uncomfortable too...

[jbailey84]

He sort of paved the way for a lot of black singers and rappers, especially the R&B like ones, like Usher, John Legend, Common, etc.

Also, without him there would probably be no MTV or VH1 even because he was such a visual performer and was better to watch than just hear.

that and what i heard on TV, he was the first black artist to have a music video air on MTV.

[Boiiinng]

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What a F***ING A**HOLE!

He exploited him when he was in a child...so true to form, he's doing it in his death.I found myself almost gasping when he made one of the men stand on the podium with him to say they were starting a company together. Unbelievable.

You can see the interviewer getting a little uncomfortable too...

That's why Joe isn't in the will.

Latest news:

The kids are not his biological children. I think we saw that coming.

He was taking 40 vicadin per day. That's more than House. :omg:

[Tardumb]

Everything has pretty much been said already. The guy has unfortunately been the butt of a lot of jokes for almost as long as I can remember. (My earliest memory was "Will You Be There" after watching Free Willy countless times when I was a kid.)

I don't know if anyone really understands why he went through all of the transformation surgeries, or what his intentions were behind building Neverland, but the one certain thing about this guy is that he was an incredible singer and performer. As far as I am concerned he's innocent of any real wrongdoing, so I take what's given. And even not being a big fan, I still can't help but admire the passion and soul he puts into his art.

It's a shame, it seems he lived a pretty painful and troubled life, and yet received mostly mocking and proverbial stone-throwing.

[HotBoy]

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What a F***ING A**HOLE!

He exploited him when he was in a child...so true to form, he's doing it in his death.I found myself almost gasping when he made one of the men stand on the podium with him to say they were starting a company together. Unbelievable.

You can see the interviewer getting a little uncomfortable too...Pardon my use of this term, but it seems to me that to Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson was treated more like a ho, than a son!

Also, according to his will, his mother Katherine will get custody of his 3 kids.
I'm a little surprised that his sister Janet didn't get custody!

I mean, Katherine Jackson is 79-years-old! If something happens to her, what's going to happen to the kids then???

[Ramplate]

Yeah but our generation didn't come up with Elvis or JFK, and even if we did, their blunders didn't stretch over half their careers like Jackson's. Who knows how MJ will be seen 30 years from now, hopefully with respect and admiration, but these past 15-20 years that have been nothing but a sideshow for the guy probably won't go away anytime soon.

your previous statement didn't qualify any sort of generation - it was a statement that they weren't treated the same with regards to scandal and controversy.

Elvis had lots of scandals (tame by today's standards) at various points in his life, and he did live in similar hidden away circumstances comparable to Jackson. And yeah we did hear a bit of conjecture about different things he may or may not have been doing while alive, along with some personality quirks and was pretty much a side show too.
With JFK on the other hand, the press at the time was more willing to look the other way on most of the deeper issues because that was policy back then with regards to political figures for the media.
Frank Sinatra was also one who rocked with scandal about mob connections and the weird kidnapping of his son Frank jr. you will, and always have had that with celebs, no matter the generation -

look at the Fatty Arbuckle trials back in the 20's - they tried him 3 times for rape and manslaughter and his carrer was ruined even though he was aquitted and given a formal letter of apology. He was blacklisted, his movies were banned, and he only started to come back shortly before his death in 1933 at the age of 46.

Every thing old is new again as the song goes

[Jordan KO]

so what, we'll never learn to moon walk

[FilmJerk]

wow.

Fans of Michael Jackson have been hit hard by the star's death - 12 devotees have allegedly killed themselves following the tragic news.

The King Of Pop passed away on Thursday from a cardiac arrest and millions of his fans worldwide went into mourning. But several of them found it too hard to cope and subsequently ended their own lives, according to the founder of an online Jackson fan club.

Gary Taylor, president and owner of MJJcommunity.com, says, "I know there has been an increase (in deaths), I now believe the figure is 12. It is a serious situation that these people are going through but Michael Jackson would never want this. He would want them to live."

"They (fans) can't accept it; they feel in some sort of different reality. I'm stunned that he's dead. One minute he is coming here for concerts and the next he is gone. I think the funeral will be where the reality kicks in that he is gone and won't be coming back, there will be a huge depression in the fan community when that happens."

And Jackson's political activist pal Reverend Jesse Jackson has even recorded a message to his fans, urging them not to "self-destruct" in the wake of the singer's demise.

Jesse Jackson says, "This is a time when hearts are heavy. There is great pain but great cause to celebrate Michael's life. It made Michael happy saying 'We Are The World'. Don't self-destruct. We fall down sometimes, we get back up. That's the right thing to do. In Michael's name let's live together as brothers and sisters and not die apart as fools."

Thousands of Jackson fans are planning a vigil on July 13th at the O2 Arena in London where the star was due to kick off his 50-date comeback tour.

http://www.upallnite.tv/profiles/blogs/a-dozen-michael-jackson-fans

[Ewok Droppings]

The kids are not his biological children. I think we saw that coming.



Hahaha - you are absolutely the most gullible person on these boards, hands down. :funny: No wonder you run around like chicken little at every stupid news headline you read. There are RUMORS of this - but it's unsubstantiated.

[jbailey84]

Also, according to his will, his mother Katherine will get custody of his 3 kids.
I'm a little surprised that his sister Janet didn't get custody!

has Janet even made a statement or anything? I dont recall hearing anything from her or about her

[Jordan KO]

Why do people care?????? he hasn't done anything since before i was conceived

[JBond]

Yeah. Personally, I judge everyone's life achievements by what they've done since Jordan KO was conceived.

[Tornado]

Haha, that was good.

[Jordan KO]

Yeah. Personally, I judge everyone's life achievements by what they've done since Jordan KO was conceived.

Hell Yea!!!! No but seriously, he's done nothing but get accused of molesting babies kids, all i ever heard were jokes about him but now that he's dead everybody cares.

[jbailey84]

guess you havent heard his music or seen his dance moves and see how much of an influence it was

[Jordan KO]

thriller.... but will ever teach you to moonwalk

[prongsfan1989]

i am one of those people who will not remember Michael Jackson for all the controversy that surrounded him before and after his death. I will remember him for his talent and for what he did to help the world. Here is my list of my favorite MJ songs in no particular order:

-Thriller
-We are the World
-Billie Jean
-Beat it
-Black or White
-Bad
-I'll be There
-Will you be there (first michael jackson song i have listened to. Seriously, cause i was born in 89.)
-Ben
-The Way you make me feel
-Don't stop till you get enough
-Say Say Say

The music industry, and most likely will not be the same without him. :(

[FilmJerk]

nvm

[jbailey84]

Beat It is my fav. I love the intro of the gong or whatever going off and the solo by Eddie Van Halen.

[Boiiinng]

has Janet even made a statement or anything? I dont recall hearing anything from her or about her

She came in at the end of the BET awards to give a statement on behalf of the family. It's probably on YouTube.

Hell Yea!!!! No but seriously, he's done nothing but get accused of molesting babies kids, all i ever heard were jokes about him but now that he's dead everybody cares.

Yeah, he was only the most charitable pop star ever, but I guess that really doesn't mean much these days. Not to mention the contributions he and the Jackson 5 made to music, dance and film, the effects of which are still being seen in today's music. Do yourself a favor and actually read about the past, too, not just the present.

[Ramplate]

12 people are that tied up in the Cult of Michael?!???!!??

Sounds like they had no lives of their own sheesh!

Well, the word fan does stem from the word Fanatic

[ViRUs]

Yeah. Personally, I judge everyone's life achievements by what they've done since Jordan KO was conceived.

I laughed so hard at this. We havent had someone like Jordan here in a while. We were long overdue.....

[Knerys]

Great people have great problems. It's not my place to comdemn or praise him. I choose to remember Jackson the Entertainer.

The man's dead. Leave him alone already.

[Boiiinng]

Nice retrospective from the Moonwalker film.

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And for those who think Michael's dancing moves started during his solo years, check this out from 1974.

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[Ramplate]

Great people have great problems. It's not my place to comdemn or praise him. I choose to remember Jackson the Entertainer.

The man's dead. Leave him alone already.

Yeah me too really.

He wrote a song called Leave Me Alone and that didn't work unfortunately lol - also kind of hard to forget all the stuff when every show on TV has to do their expose on him - The Today Show did almost their whole broadcast from Neverland this morning.

Well, in any event, it stopped them from talking on and on about the Octomom and Iran

[Knerys]

That was one of my favorites songs by him actually. I seem to like the more off the keel ones like that one, Smooth Criminal and Scream....*shrug*

[Ramplate]

the thing that kind of bugged me about some of his later tunes were the high pitched screams and some of the other noises - I probably would have liked more of them if it weren't for that.

But yeah - things like that film clip from the Merv Griffin show still make me smile

[Ewok Droppings]

Burial tomb ideas for MJ:

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/18/128845208219695281.jpg

[jbailey84]

lol

[Deexan]

Guy looks in good shape in the rehearsal video from two days prior to his death.

Jacko 'in shape' at final rehearsal

Footage of Michael Jackson performing some of his most famous hits for the final time has been released.

The King of Pop looked well and his voice sounded strong as he danced around the stage in typical fashion during rehearsals at the Staples Centre, in Los Angeles.

The star was preparing for his 50-night residency at London's O2 arena, set to begin later this month before Jackson's death on June 25 from a suspected cardiac arrest.

Jackson's friend, Uri Geller, said the footage raised a "big question" about what prompted the star's dramatic demise.

"The question is: What happened from that point to the day that he died?" said Geller. "In the photographs I've seen, he looked in shape, he was smiling, he was happy. What happened? That's the big question."

Kevin Mazur, 48, the photographer who captured some of Jackson's final moments on camera at the rehearsals, said the star appeared to be back to his best and had a "incredible energy".

Mr Mazur, co-founder of WireImage, said: "When he hit that stage, everyone was just mesmerised."

The photographer said Jackson was happy and joking with the dancers as he rehearsed.

Mr Mazur told the newspaper Jackson performed his set for 90 minutes until nearly midnight on June 23.

"He was totally there - 100% there in fact," said Mr Mazur. "You would never suspect this would have ever happened - especially after his performance on stage."

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[Ramplate]

I thought so too.

I guess he was stuck on the pain killers though - just read that he had ongoning joint pain from Lupis, and was still in pain from some stage rigging that fell on him on his Dangerous Tour.
I believe he also had medication for anxiety.
I think we'll find out when the Toxicology report comes back.

Interesting tidbit - In 2000, Jackson was listed in the book of Guinness World Records for his support of 39 charities, more than any other entertainer or personality. - Wiki

[Tolkien]

^^^^ I was just about to post that video too, lol. The man looked good to me.

Great people have great problems. It's not my place to comdemn or praise him. I choose to remember Jackson the Entertainer.

The man's dead. Leave him alone already.
I have to say, amen to that. I grew up loving the man's music and to this day, have every album of his, and an autographed photo from him that my uncle got during his 1997 concert here in Hawaii. That photo ain't leaving my sight anytime soon, I'll tell you that. The Man's a legend in my book, and I really won't sit back and judge him when all I need to do is look in the mirror and visualize my own personal problems.

[jbailey84]

well said Tolkien.

thats awesome your uncle got you an autograph picture. I wouldn't sell it, thats something worth keeping on.

[PsYkOoOoO]

That was one of my favorites songs by him actually. I seem to like the more off the keel ones like that one, Smooth Criminal and Scream....*shrug*

Is Smooth Criminal considered to be off the keel?

As I am typing this, I am listening to Scream. I LOVE this song.

[Jordan KO]

well what i mean is i don't understand why every body cares, he's been nothing but the butt of jokes since before i can remeber but now everybody feels sad & is like Pop is dead

[Ramplate]

we're remembering the good he did while he was here - and there was a lot of that.

[Jordan KO]

i can understand that

[FranklinTard]

lot of michael jackson apologists nowadays...

[Tornado]

I think it's funny there's still a question mark in this thread title.

[Tardumb]

Maybe he's on an island with the other King.

[Deexan]

King...Kong?

[Tardumb]

http://www.wvah.com/programs/kingofthehill/hankhill.jpg

[quiksilver022]

Oh and technically Jackson was never convicted

THIS is what pisses me off! I'm not even a mega fan of MJ or anything, but I at least somewhat kept up with those trials and am well aware he was acquitted of all charges/accusations, and found NOT GUILTY. The court has it out for celebrities, and if they even SUSPECTED he had done something wrong, he would have been locked up for sure. The reason he paid off that doucher in the early/mid 90's was apparently because his management team didn't think his heart could handle the stress -- and look what happened, over 15 years later, when the stress of this 10-show-turned-50-show world tour killed him! The team of psychiatrists concluded he had "the mentality of a 10 year old boy" and "doesn't fit the profile of a pedophile." The REASON we should all be appreciating his past and reflecting on his enormous accomplishments and hard work is because there's nothing to NOT appreciate - he didn't do anything wrong!!

[quiksilver022]

Why do people care?????? he hasn't done anything since before i was conceived

This comment raises a good question: Who the hell does this generation have? I can't think of a single other celebrity whose death will matter as much as Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley. I think the closest it will come is Britney Spears, due to the sole fact that she walked in very similar shoes to both MJ and Elvis (the non-existent childhood, the drug and alcohol problems, hospitalization, self-destructive tendencies, the failed "comebacks", at the point of being a parody of herself (as both MJ and Elvis were). But honestly, if she survived 2007 and 2008, I can't see her kicking the can anytime soon - she'll probably just fade away like Madonna.. Another successful, but now very boring and somewhat irrelevant pop star.

[ZombieMan]

Don't know if this joke has surfaced on here yet but...

"Don't worry if you hear booming coming from the sky later today. It's not thunder...It's Elvis kicking Michael's ass for ****ing his daughter."

;)

[gar0781]

Haha that was pretty good.

They just had on the news how a lot of African Americans are upset because people are focusing on his checkered past along with his legacy, saying 'We didn't do that to Elvis, we didn't do that to JFK when they died.' OK, but Elvis and JFK didn't have tons of plastic surgery, they weren't accused of being child molesters, they didn't build entire complexes dedicated to childhood fantasy for their own personal use, and do this stuff for almost the last 20 years while seldom releasing new music. Sorry, but for a 24 year old like myself, I've mostly grown up with MJ being a punchline.

good point. It seems like his death has affected people who grew up with the Jackson 5 and Thriller days more than younger folks who grew up with him being known basically as an oddball.

[Ewok Droppings]

I think it's funny there's still a question mark in this thread title.

I think some are not sure if he's really dead or just being put back together again.

[Where's my elephant?]

Don't know if this joke has surfaced on here yet but...

"Don't worry if you hear booming coming from the sky later today. It's not thunder...It's Elvis kicking Michael's ass for ****ing his daughter."

;)

In that case, Nicolas Cage should be lucky to still be alive. ;) Hell, MJ should be lucky McCartney is still alive regarding their faded friendship after MJ got the rights to those Beatles tunes.

I just got a Topps card that will be worth a lot of money later on with Thriller era MJ on the card today.

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/837/837056/cartman-gets-an-anal-probe-20071121032210186.jpg

Now who wants to touch me?

Besides, MJ of course. Ba zing!

[Jordan KO]

its all part of his comeback tour

[Tolkien]

good point. It seems like his death has affected people who grew up with the Jackson 5 and Thriller days more than younger folks who grew up with him being known basically as an oddball.
Not entirely true. I'm 25 and literally grew up listening to Michael Jackson. I've been a solid Michael Jackson fan since before I can remember. Yes, his life has always been odd, but you know, everyone's life could take the same turn if put in the same situations as he, growing up. I admit that I've taken part in my fair share of punchlines and crude jokes over the years, but when you stop to look at it, you can't really judge the guy, and the last time I checked, a Court of Law deemed him NOT GUILTY, twice! So continuing to run with that stupid child molestation crap is kind of stupid, from my point of view. I'm not saying anything negative towards anyone here, of course. I'm just saying... not all young people today thought of the man as just an oddball or a punchline...

Some of us actually thought of him as a true legend.

[gar0781]

Not entirely true. I'm 25 and literally grew up listening to Michael Jackson. I've been a solid Michael Jackson fan since before I can remember. Yes, his life has always been odd, but you know, everyone's life could take the same turn if put in the same situations as he, growing up. I admit that I've taken part in my fair share of punchlines and crude jokes over the years, but when you stop to look at it, you can't really judge the guy, and the last time I checked, a Court of Law deemed him NOT GUILTY, twice! So continuing to run with that stupid child molestation crap is kind of stupid, from my point of view. I'm not saying anything negative towards anyone here, of course. I'm just saying... not all young people today thought of the man as just an oddball or a punchline...

Some of us actually thought of him as a true legend.

I totally agree with you. Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm a couple of years older than you and grew up listening to Jackson as well. What I really meant by younger folks are those who are about 10 years younger than us, teenagers basically. Jackson does have some teen fans but out of all the crude and sick jokes I've read over the internet(youtube,sports websites,ect) since his death, the majority of them have been from teens who, like I said, grew up with him as basically an oddball and obviously weren't around during Jackson's peak in the 80s to really appreciate his impact on music. And as I said, some of the "jokes" are downright nasty....

[Fanible]

Definitely loved Michael Jackson's music growing up, even as a child, and I still do. His music videos were great, and I thought the TV specials/movie he did was a riot, especially at a young age. It's sad to have seen him take a turn down the road that he did (and then die so young), but I'll always remember his great tunes, dancing and videos.

[Tolkien]

I totally agree with you. Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm a couple of years older than you and grew up listening to Jackson as well. What I really meant by younger folks are those who are about 10 years younger than us, teenagers basically. Jackson does have some teen fans but out of all the crude and sick jokes I've read over the internet(youtube,sports websites,ect) since his death, the majority of them have been from teens who, like I said, grew up with him as basically an oddball and obviously weren't around during Jackson's peak in the 80s to really appreciate his impact on music. And as I said, some of the "jokes" are downright nasty....
I agree on all parts. I think I just quoted you because you were responding to Dooms, who mentioned that he was 24 and mostly grew up with Michael being a punchline. I wanted to respond to prove that even though there are young adults out there who'd only think of him as a punchline or oddball, there are still those who actually thought the exact opposite of him.

[Ramplate]

Just tuned in to CNN for some news and they're showing the hearse on its way to the public service.
They interviewed someone who came from South Carolina I think and she said they traveled for three days and sold everything in their house to be there - and they don't even have a ticket!

It's good to be a fan but some people need to get a grip

[iv3rdawG]

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[Tolkien]

Be in peace, Michael. Be in peace.


Yeah Ramplate, that is going overboard... Stupid, imo.

[ViRUs]

Yeah, that is a little over the top. Is anyone watching the memorial? I have it on in the background while I do homework, it's ok. I wouldnt want to watch the whole thing begining to end though.

[D-fence]

Yeah I'm watching. Sometimes it's pretty emotional.
Most of the times when MJ's music is playing.

RIP man. I wasn't a huge fan (I'm only a FAN of Spielberg & John Williams), but I had tremendous respect for your music and dance moves: They will remain classics trough out the ages.

Smile.

[Ramplate]

I watched it, it was a nice service.

I started crying when Brooke Shields made her speach - that was pretty emotional.

I also think that was pretty brave of little Paris to stand up at the mic and say how much she loves her father.

[Ramplate]

anyone know who the female singer was at the end singing Heal The World?
she was really good

[Tolkien]

Really wish I had seen it. :(

[Big-Lead5]

Ill tell ya i watch most of it but didn't get tears in my eyes till little paris.crying saying how much she lover her dad whew

[Ramplate]

they'll probably run it again this evening or on the weekend

[quiksilver022]

Seeing Paris cry was tough to watch. That, and Brooke Shields' great speech were very real, and humanized Michael. Seeing his daughter cry and say he was the best daddy ever was refreshing instead of hearing "his music and dance moves will live on after him." And I liked when Al Sharpton said to Prince, Paris and Blanket "There was nothing strange about your daddy, it was strange what he had to deal with."

[D-fence]

God.. little Paris :(

Right then and there, after all the showbizz and controversies, the only thing that mattered was this little girl, that has to bury her father today.

Really moving. Damn.

[Ramplate]

yes, that's all that really matters

[Tolkien]

they'll probably run it again this evening or on the weekend
I don't have cable at the moment, so I still won't be able to see it. :(

[HotBoy]

For me, the most poignant moments were:

1. When Jermaine Jackson sang the song "Smile"!

2. When Paris talked about her father (that took a lot of guts, and heart)!!!

3. When Marlon Jackson talked about Michael, and requested for him to give a big hug to Brandon (Marlon's identical twin brother who died stillborn during emergency C-section surgery).

That last piece of info can be found on Wikipedia.com

[Ramplate]

I don't have cable at the moment, so I still won't be able to see it. :(

There are several sites on the web replaying at least parts of it

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090707/NEWS01/90706021/1002/RSS01&template=mogulus

btw his concerts were supposed to start in London today

[Knerys]

Is Smooth Criminal considered to be off the keel?

As I am typing this, I am listening to Scream. I LOVE this song.

Here it is. People like it, but it's never been anyone's favorite. At least in my experience.

I love Scream. It was at the peak of my Janet Jackson infatuation so that might be part of the draw but yeah. :)


I saw Paris Jackson speak. I'll admit I got a little misty eyed.

[Ramplate]

anyone know who the female singer was at the end singing Heal The World?
she was really good

Mystery solved! I knew that watching entirely too much tv would pay off somehow lol.

Judith Hill
and ever since the memorial her phone has been ringing off the hook, so I'm sure we'll be hearing more of her.

[Jordan KO]

wow that sucks:(

[Ramplate]

what sucks? That Judith Hill just became a little more famous? She's a singer so that's a good thing.

[Deexan]

I liked John Meyer's Human Nature rendition; such a great track.

[HotBoy]

I liked John Meyer's Human Nature rendition; such a great track.I agree!! That was too cool!!!

[quiksilver022]

Anyone else convinced some of those performers were only there for shameless self-promotion? Mariah Carey coincidentally dropped the debut track off her upcoming album a couple days before, Usher recently revealed his "protege" (some douchey fifteen year old white kid.. I don't get it either), and John Mayer probably just wanted people to know he actually does stuff besides pretend to be interesting on TMZ.

[Knerys]

How tabloid of you.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Anyone else convinced some of those performers were only there for shameless self-promotion? Mariah Carey coincidentally dropped the debut track off her upcoming album a couple days before, Usher recently revealed his "protege" (some douchey fifteen year old white kid.. I don't get it either), and John Mayer probably just wanted people to know he actually does stuff besides pretend to be interesting on TMZ.

John Mayer was actually called up by the Jackson family to do it, so I don't know what you are talking about.

[Drizzt240]

Rare footage of the Pepsi commercial accident has been released.

[Ramplate]

Not so rare at the moment

[Boiiinng]

Amazing that he kept dancing.

I remember that scene being dramatized in a movie. It was almost shot for shot.

[Deexan]

Strange to look at the footage now and think that it was the exact moment that set in motion all that was to follow in regards to painkiller addiction, plastic surgery and on-stage panic attacks.

Must've felt weird to have had 20+ people all suddenly clambering on top of him and smacking his head mid-performance...

[quiksilver022]

John Mayer was actually called up by the Jackson family to do it, so I don't know what you are talking about.

Because the Jackson family isn't out for shameless self-promotion either, right? Like Joe Jackson pimping his record label, and selling clips of footage of their upcoming reality TV show for $200,000. Or how about yesterday's announcement of The Jackson 5 reunion tour? Or LaToya's just launched "tribute single"? The Jackson family is a bunch of monsters.

[add1t]

Is that true that MJ's body had been found 20 years ago??
in 1989??
I saw that on the news and can't stop thinking
is it another bs or what??

[JBond]

No, that was Elvis.

[Ramplate]

All these guys showing up and saying they were the sperm donor for the kids - are only thinking of one thing, and it's not the kids.

If someone is an anonymous sperm donor, you let the guardian of the child produced know how the child can reach you when, and if, they want to look for their biological parents. And then you leave it alone.

If you go out in public and actively hunt down the child to insert yourselves into their lives before the dust settles on losing a parent, you are only thinking of yourself or money - not the well being of the kid.

Leave it alone

[Tolkien]

My thoughts exactly. And whether he was a good person in general or not, it's safe to say at this point that Jackson was a pretty good parent. And with his fortune going to his children, there's no telling if this BS will ever stop. People will be coming out of the woodwork and claiming the children for decades to come.

[Ramplate]

It's ruled a homicide.

The doctor gave him lots of different doses of different things in order to get a wound up Jackson to sleep - and ended up giving him a lethal cocktail.

[quiksilver022]

Anyone catch the video of Michael Jackson walking out of the coroner's van? AKA a huge video hoax that he's not dead, he's just being Tupac'd.

[Ewok Droppings]

Sad thing is that I really couldn't care less if it's ruled a homicide or whatnot. I just want it all to be over with and we can go on with our lives and not see something on TV about MJ every other channel.

[badgonegood]

Sad thing is that I really couldn't care less if it's ruled a homicide or whatnot. I just want it all to be over with and we can go on with our lives and not see something on TV about MJ every other channel.


yes sad on your part

[Ramplate]

well, to be honest there has been too much coverage about every little thing they can stir up. But yeah, it's important to get to the heart of the matter - doctor's and celebs (or anyone for that matter) should not have such shady relationships.

[cpanthers786]

Sad thing is that I really couldn't care less if it's ruled a homicide or whatnot. I just want it all to be over with and we can go on with our lives and not see something on TV about MJ every other channel.

thank God im not the only one that feels that way, im tired of hearing about it the mans dead its over he anit coming back

[SMS]

This is so horrible that they're writing this off as homicide. Yes, the doctor abused his privileges and administered far too many drugs to Michael, but Michael was the one who abused his fame and power by shopping doctors and manipulating people into giving him more drugs. I understand that Dr. Murray apparently waited a long period of time between his death and calling 911, but honestly, with a star like Michael, I'm sure his people were saying "Don't call the cops yet, try to revive him. This will be a PR nightmare if they find out he OD'd right before the concert." Unfortunately had they swallowed their pride and calld 911 sooner, he probably could have survived. Just my 2 cents. I feel horrible for Dr. Murray.

[Ramplate]

I don't feel horrible for him - Jackson may have been an addict, but the doctor was in charge of what went into his body and when - plus you do not give someone cpr on a bed. He had to be in a panic or not a good doctor to begin with not to know that much.

[SMS]

I don't feel horrible for him - Jackson may have been an addict, but the doctor was in charge of what went into his body and when - plus you do not give someone cpr on a bed. He had to be in a panic or not a good doctor to begin with not to know that much.

Yeah, the whole CPR on the bed thing confused me too. I don't know, I guess Murray was guilty to an extent, but ultimately Jackson was the one manipulating him. Who knows though, none of us were there, we don't know the situation.

[badgonegood]

funeral - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gH-85XtXYQ

[Ewok Droppings]

Yep, still don't care.

[badgonegood]

Yep, still don't care.


lol their gonna be talking about his death for a while. not sure what u expected. :lol:

[Ewok Droppings]

I expect that someone with rational thought and cognitive abilities will put an end to the Michael Jackson media love. They were slamming him for months before he died. Now that he's dead, they can't stop missing him oh so much. Someone please, make it go away.