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iv3rdawG
11-16-2007, 08:52 AM
From Comingsoon.net
Tim Burton to Direct Alice and Frankenweenie
Source: Variety
November 16, 2007
Tim Burton is pairing up with Disney to direct two 3-D films, Alice in Wonderland and Frankenweenie.
Variety says the two-movie deal with Walt Disney Studios begins with Alice in Wonderland, which will combine performance-capture imagery, currently seen in Beowulf, with live-action footage.
The script by Linda Woolverton (The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast) is based on the Lewis Carroll classic.
Burton, who is wrapping Sweeney Todd at Paramount and DreamWorks, will tackle Alice in Wonderland early next year, with production set to wrap by May.
After "Alice," Burton will helm and produce Frankenweenie, based on his 1984 short film about a pet dog brought back to life by his loyal owner. The movie will be shot in stop-motion animation and shown in digital 3-D.
Scorpio82
11-16-2007, 09:03 AM
Frankenweenie! :D
macca
11-16-2007, 09:37 AM
I'm interested to see who will play Alice D Fanning is my first choice second maybe Emma Roberts.:)
Sock-Man
11-16-2007, 11:35 AM
Whatever happened to the American Mcgee 'Alice' movie? Is that still on the cards?
Cos I would expect Burtons version to be 'a little bit twisted', which would make these films presumably quite similar..
FranklinTard
11-16-2007, 01:33 PM
awesome.
sshuttari
11-16-2007, 02:13 PM
awesome directing choice, cant wait to see how it turns out.
I saw Frankenweenie in a theater one halloween, so great. Burton's Alice could be cool but it reminds me of the EA game. That game had a Burton-esque vibe to it.
drob127
11-16-2007, 07:39 PM
burton helming alice in wonderland is a great idea, that story should be told dark and who else is darker than burton
It's just gonna be a shame that Burton won't helm an eventual Through The Looking Glass film. It would be cool if we could see a Great Glass Elevator film but Freddie Highmore is getting older now I do suppose.
IanTheCool
11-17-2007, 10:44 AM
why are 3D films coming back all of the sudden?
Tzarinna
11-17-2007, 07:35 PM
Cause they're great!
Oh, this will be a thing of beauty.
WuTical
11-18-2007, 06:36 PM
is that Sarah Michelle Gellar one still coming out ?
iv3rdawG
07-23-2008, 10:13 PM
From Comingsoon.net
Tim Burton Casts His Alice
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
July 23, 2008
Tim Burton and Walt Disney Pictures are in final talks with Australian actress Mia Wasikowska to star in Alice in Wonderland, Burton's take on Lewis Carroll's classic fantasy novel, says The Hollywood Reporter.
The film, based on a script by Linda Woolverton (The Lion King), will be produced by longtime Burton collaborator Richard Zanuck, former Disney chairman Joe Roth and Jennifer and Suzanne Todd. It will be shot with live-action and performance-capture footage and presented in Disney Digital 3-D.
Wasikowska got her start on the Aussie series "All Saints" and is a regular on HBO's "In Treatment." She next will appear opposite Daniel Craig in Ed Zwick's war drama Defiance and just completed filming the role of a young Amelia Earhart fan in Mira Nair's biopic Amelia starring Hilary Swank.
Principal photography starts in November.
FranklinTard
07-23-2008, 10:15 PM
ive never seen the original animated film... i guess i can wait for the 3d.
Fanible
07-23-2008, 10:17 PM
Whatever happened to the American Mcgee 'Alice' movie? Is that still on the cards?
Cos I would expect Burtons version to be 'a little bit twisted', which would make these films presumably quite similar..
No matter how "twisted" Burton's version will be, it'll still be no where near as twisted as "Alice" - especially since this is a Disney financed production. And the original books were pretty creepy in of themselves, so hopefully Burton will try to follow them more... but, like said, Disney-financed, so who knows?
And I'm still a little annoyed Alice has yet to go through in any shape or form.
edit:
Although I have been disappointed by both of Burton's other adaptions (Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory), so I can't say I'll be looking forward to this in any great deal. Still, it'd be hard not to keep an eye on it regardless.
Neverending
07-24-2008, 07:29 AM
With the exception of Johnny Depp's unforunate performance, there's nothing wrong with Charle and the Chocolate Factory. But you are right about Planet of the Apes.
Wolverine
07-24-2008, 01:58 PM
I really wouldn't be surprised if these two casting choices happen
Helena Bonham Carter as The Queen of Hearts
Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter.
Neverending
07-24-2008, 02:56 PM
Carter will be in the cast, but I doubt Depp. I think Burton got the message.
Doomsday
07-24-2008, 04:24 PM
I think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was a good indicator that Johnny Depp isn't always the answer. I thought the movie was just alright, it was the special effects more than anything. But I really enjoy Tim Burton, I'm interested to see how Alice in Wonderland turns out. I remember Frankenweenie from when I was a little kid too and was shocked when I realized it was on the special features of my Nightmare Before Christmas DVD.
IanTheCool
07-24-2008, 04:39 PM
So are they going to combine the two books, or keep it just as the original wonderland story and keep it separate from Looking Glass?
FranklinTard
07-24-2008, 09:26 PM
charlie and the chocolate factory was pure garbage. aside from my willy wonka bias, i thought that having the oompa loompas look all the same was probably the worst mistake. there can't be just 1 working little person in hollywood... midget equal rights damnit.
EnderDeschain
07-26-2008, 03:50 AM
From Comingsoon.net
Tim Burton Casts His Alice
Tim Burton and Walt Disney Pictures are in final talks with Australian actress Mia Wasikowska to star in Alice in Wonderland, Burton's take on Lewis Carroll's classic fantasy novel, says The Hollywood Reporter.
According to IMDB that chick is eighteen. That's stupid. Alice is supposed to be like 9 or 10, even Dakota's too old to play her now. This shoulda been made three or four years ago. That plus Tim Burton equals crappy. Then again, I always hated Burton until Sweeney Todd, and I absolutely loved that. As inappropriate as his style seems to some movies, like Sleepy Hollow or Batman, I guess it can fit others. But I don't think Alice is one of those cases, it's another one of those things that has to be done just so, or will fail. And I don't see Burton hitting a bullseye, he rarely does. I think Del Toro would be perfect, but I guess there's no use crying over spilled directors. I always pictured the Mad Hatter as a young Anthony Hopkins, like Magic-era, but he's too old now. Johnny Depp actually isn't a bad idea. The Queen of Hearts absolutely HAS to be Sigourney Weaver.
Wolverine
07-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Well Folks its Official
http://filmonic.com/depp-play-mad-ha...ice-wonderland
Depp To Play Mad Hatter In Alice In Wonderland
Mia Wasikowska was recently cast as Alice in Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland, and it now appears Burton will be working with Johnny Depp for the 7th time, as Depp has apparently been cast as the Mad Hatter.
Alice in Wonderland will be shot with live-action and performance-capture footage and presented in 3-D. Filming is expected to begin in November
Anybody Not Surprised about this news? I still See HBC to be casted as the Queen of Hearts. But it will be interesting who they get for the Chesire Cat and the March Hare.
Fanible
07-29-2008, 04:20 PM
His portrayal of Willy Wonka would have been better fitting for this role, but they naturally will probably do something different, even though both are zany.
Felix Leiter
07-29-2008, 05:49 PM
Tim Curry must play the Cheshire Cat!
Neverending
07-29-2008, 08:35 PM
Well Folks its Official
http://filmonic.com/depp-play-mad-ha...ice-wonderland
Depp To Play Mad Hatter In Alice In Wonderland
Mia Wasikowska was recently cast as Alice in Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland, and it now appears Burton will be working with Johnny Depp for the 7th time, as Depp has apparently been cast as the Mad Hatter.
Alice in Wonderland will be shot with live-action and performance-capture footage and presented in 3-D. Filming is expected to begin in November
Anybody Not Surprised about this news? I still See HBC to be casted as the Queen of Hearts. But it will be interesting who they get for the Chesire Cat and the March Hare.
I don't know what's more annoying...this or the Scorsese-DiCaprio collaborations.
DragnFire22
07-30-2008, 10:10 AM
Annoying...?
Neverending
07-30-2008, 01:57 PM
Perhaps not the correct word, but it'd be nice to see him work with other actors.
Fanible
10-16-2008, 02:11 AM
LA Times posted an interview with Tim Burton talking about the movie and Johnny Depp, among other things. It's a long read:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/10/tim-burton-talk.html
Diablo
10-25-2008, 03:03 AM
Crispin Glover Joins Alice in Wonderland
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
October 24, 2008
Crispin Glover (Beowulf) has signed on to play the Knave of Hearts in Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland at Walt Disney Pictures.
Glover joins Mia Wasikowska as Alice and a cast that includes Johnny Depp, Anne Hathaway and Helena Bonham Carter. Burton is using a combination of live action and performance-capture technology to tell the Lewis Carroll story.
The APA-repped Glover is no stranger to performance-capture technology: He worked in the medium for "Beowulf."
In "Alice," the Knave of Hearts is put on trial for stealing the Queen of Hearts' tarts and is defended by Alice.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=49971
casablanca3
10-25-2008, 10:44 AM
great choice, glover plays can play all kinds of weird, hes right up tim burton alley haha nice to see him doing some high profile stuff again though
iv3rdawG
10-25-2008, 11:52 AM
Awesome.
IanTheCool
10-25-2008, 11:56 AM
I would really be looking forward to this is Burton was not involved.
King_of_Skid_Row
10-25-2008, 12:59 PM
^Why? You think he's going to make it too gothic?
Fanible
10-25-2008, 04:46 PM
Well, I'm interested in seeing how it's probable darker tone will look, and I will still most likely see it, but I was not impressed with either of Burton's last two "true adaptions."
Wolverine
10-27-2008, 09:37 PM
Christopher Lee And Alan Rickman Join Alice In Wonderland
Source: Filmonic http://filmonic.com/christopher-lee-alan-rickman-alice-wonderland
October 27, 2008
They are both British, they both play great villains, and they are both going to be in Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland. According to christopher lee web Christopher Lee’s role has not yet been disclosed, however johnnydeppreads say that Alan Rickman will play the hookah smoking Caterpillar.
The casting updates have been pouring in recently. A few days ago Crispin Glover was cast as the Knave of Hearts, who is put on trial for stealing the Queen of Hearts’ tarts and is defended by Alice.
Composer Danny Elfman also announced recently that he will be working on the music for the film.
Diablo
10-29-2008, 03:54 AM
That's a pretty strong cast.
DragnFire22
10-29-2008, 09:01 AM
Not a fan of the Alice casting.
Depp, Hathaway, Bonham-Carter, Crispin Glover, Alan Rickman and Christopher Lee...
Damn.
Knerys
10-29-2008, 09:02 AM
Yeah I'm really liking the cast.
I too get annoyed when one director constantly works with the same actors.....but then again look at Simon Pegg and Judd Apatow. If it works, it works. And Burton and Depp generally work.
Knerys
10-29-2008, 09:03 AM
Not a fan of the Alice casting.
I have no idea who she is honestly...
Neverending
10-30-2008, 11:07 PM
Alan Rickman will play the hookah smoking Caterpillar.
lol. Inspired casting.
IanTheCool
10-30-2008, 11:14 PM
^Why? You think he's going to make it too gothic?
I'm not a big fan of Burton. I know a lot of people appreciate his different, cartoonish style, but I don't.
And yes, I sort of agree that a cartoonish style may match Wonderland, but to me its just going to become a Burton film instead of Carroll's world.
CitizenSteel
11-01-2008, 11:27 PM
god forbid a director infuse his own vision of a film, the horror.
FranklinTard
11-02-2008, 01:28 AM
ive actually never seen the original... i feel slighted in my childhood...
Necross
11-02-2008, 07:50 AM
Well look on the bright side, that means this version will be completely a new experience for ya. For those of us who've seen the original, sure it'll be different, atmosphere and probably some dialogue, but we know the basis of what we are getting into.
Dhamon22
11-02-2008, 10:25 AM
I'll check this out.
kkapp11
11-02-2008, 12:23 PM
I've seen some clips form the filming, and it sure looks cute. I understand Johnny Depp took a bite out of his hat (and maybe ATE IT) after his scenes one day! The fun on the set between Burton and Depp must be fantastic! ~gottaluvjohnny~
IanTheCool
11-02-2008, 12:35 PM
god forbid a director infuse his own vision of a film, the horror.
Burton takes it too extremes is my point. I for one don't like that, lots of people do which is why he has so many fans. So I guess I'll just suck it up.
kkapp11
11-02-2008, 12:49 PM
I see your point, and agree about the extremes, I haven't been able to watch Sweeney Todd, I'm too afraid I won't like it....but on the other side of the coin, Johnny Depp, .....I love the Pirates movies, just abolutely adore them and I am highly anticipating the upcoming Pirates 4...and the speculation of a second trilogy!! And there was a rumor that Tim B. MIGHT direct POTC 4, but one of the writers says that is absolutely FALSE. I'm glad of that, I hope Gore V. comes back for potc 4!
Dhamon22
11-02-2008, 01:42 PM
Loved Sweeney Todd, hated the 2nd and 3rd PotC movies.
Felix Leiter
11-17-2008, 04:05 PM
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Diablo
11-17-2008, 04:07 PM
That is pretty creepy.
petergriffin246
11-17-2008, 05:23 PM
Jeez!!!
BrandonWolfe
11-17-2008, 05:33 PM
god this is going to suck
BrandonWolfe
11-17-2008, 05:42 PM
actually what i meant to say was " What!! a Tim Burton movie that is a creepy film with a slight fantasy look! he has never done that before! I cant wait to watch that! and OMG he is using Johnny Depp! holy craps! he has never done that before either! this movie is going to be cool~! it wont be anything like Sweeny Todd or that choclate factory one!
casablanca3
11-17-2008, 10:20 PM
dont really know what to say but weird, cool, and predictable from tim burton haha
Kitty
11-19-2008, 01:18 AM
He looks like he's going to rape that bunny in his hands
King_of_Skid_Row
11-19-2008, 07:52 PM
^LOL.
Typical Burton. Alice in Gothland.
This might be the first time I've ever actually been looking forward to a Tim Burton movie.
JheyDC
11-20-2008, 11:47 AM
Being that Tim Burton is a very talented Director, I would love to see this film. Very weird and powerful. The cast is major, well, knowing that it's Disney, I think they have money to spare. Johnny Depp is awesome and can play the weirdest of the bunch so he fits that character as the Mad Hatter. Would definitely see this one.
Johnny Depps's Weirdest List;
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
The Libertine
Finding Neverland
Secret Window
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
Edward Scissorhands
From the list I have here, I would say Johnny Depp is right for the part for the Mad Hatter.
JheyDC
11-20-2008, 11:56 AM
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EnderDeschain
11-20-2008, 01:04 PM
It's not just you. He looks like a chick there. A goofy, ridiculous chick. This is gonna suck and blow.
JheyDC
11-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Well if it does suck, it'll suck with Pride!
No doubt would be another good role for Johnny Depp! I hope it doesn't suck.
I have a feeling they're going to be making a lot more of Disney cartoon films come to life;
Here are a few that comes to mind;
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Sleeping Beauty
The Sword in the Stone
The Black Couldron
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Mulan
There are some that involves animals that talk, but I don't see that as a problem for Disney, look at 101 Dalmations...
Ewok Droppings
11-20-2008, 02:13 PM
Typical Burton. Alice in Gothland.
So true...
FranklinTard
11-20-2008, 02:40 PM
johnny depps craziest performance is easily fear and loathing.
never seen the original so im waiting until this comes out to burst my alice in wonderland cherry so to speak...
Apollyon
11-20-2008, 04:22 PM
They need to cut down on these mix and matches. Alice in Wonderland is card-themed, Through the Looking Glass is chess-themed. The Red Queen and the Queen of Hearts aren't the same character.
Comingsoonfan777
12-20-2008, 04:33 PM
I have completely ignored this films existence till I read this today. This film is truly going to be mindblowing. wow, I am deff intrigued now. Gotta love Tim:)
http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/12/19/three-different-visual-styles-in-tim-burtons-alice-in-wonderland/
Live action, Animation, and Stop motion.
Three Different Visual Styles in Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland
December 19, 2008
Source: MoviesOnline
by Alex Billington
"When we first announced that Tim Burton was directing Alice in Wonderland, we wrote that the film would feature a combination of live-action footage and performance-capture imagery all in 3D. At the time I didn't know what all that would mean, but took it as a sign we might see something visually astounding. It wasn't until I read this interview with Alan Rickman at MoviesOnline (via SlashFilm) that I realized this certainly would be an astounding combination of a total of three visual styles. Rickman explains that, "the movie is a mixture of live action, animation, and stop motion, so it's very complicated." As far as I know, and even as Rickman noted, "I don't think all three have been put together ever before."
There have been mixes of CGI and live-action before and even some stop motion and live-action mixes, but I can't think of a film that features all three. That is, unless you want to count something like Hellboy II: The Golden Army, which had a stop motion puppet scene in the beginning and featured plenty of CGI characters. Even that isn't a good reference because I'm expecting Alice in Wonderland to look like nothing we've ever seen before, a lot like the Wachowski's Speed Racer. That's good news to me, because I loved Speed Racer and I'm already very excited to see what Burton's twisted mind has come up with.
For those who are wondering why the heck Alan Rickman is talking about Alice in Wonderland, he is starring in the film as the caterpillar. And yes, he will certainly be a CGI character, not unlike what Robert Zemeckis does in his films. And to give everyone an idea of the crazy visuals we'll be seeing, Rickman explained that Helena Bonham Carter, who plays The Red Queen, is "in a costume and in makeup but her head is going to be made three times bigger than it actually is on top of the costume." If you thought Disney's Alice in Wonderland from 1951 was already visually very trippy, just wait until Burton's version. If the classic can be described as a mind trip, then this will probably be described as a full on acid trip."
When I first heard about this movie, I said to myself "I bet he casts Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter and Helena Bonham Carter as the queen." And I, like everyone else, ended up being right. It's just so predictable. He needs to branch out again and stop having those two as the leads in every damn movie. One or both of them (usually both) have been the leads in everyone of his movies forever, the last one that didn't have one of them was "Mars Attacks!" I know people will say something like "Don't fix it if it aint broken," but his films with those two haven't been THAT good and I want to see him branch out with some actors. It's really getting tiresome.
Dragon Knight
12-21-2008, 10:44 AM
well the reasion Helena Bonham Carter is in his movies is because they are married. and depp well I don't even get that.
kkapp11
12-21-2008, 11:03 AM
I think Depp is god~father to one or both of Burtons children and they have a great friendship, Depp and Burton.
Justin
12-21-2008, 11:07 AM
Him being married to her shouldn't be the reason. She is a decent actress. Burton has a very particular kind of actor/actress and a style of filmmaking -- he just needs to show he can deviate without it turning into the sappy mess that was Big Fish.
Dragon Knight
12-21-2008, 12:12 PM
its not like she can't get roles eather, I think so far the only non burton film she did whas Harry Potter.
but if your going to make a weard movie might as well get all the odd balls in hollywood you can.
IanTheCool
12-21-2008, 12:15 PM
well the reasion Helena Bonham Carter is in his movies is because they are married. and depp well I don't even get that.
Then maybe he should watch Godfather 3. Casting your family, not always such a great idea.
rosncranz
12-21-2008, 12:57 PM
She was in Fight Club.
Guess what people, Burton is not that great of a filmmakers. Sorry, but he is the very epitome of one-trick, yes he made some very good movies 20 years ago, but now they are all the same. Just because they don't suck doesn't mean he should keep doing it.
Justin
12-21-2008, 12:59 PM
Ditto.
Diablo
12-21-2008, 01:39 PM
I personally like the Burton/Depp connection.
I mean yeah, it's tiring but I can't really complain about it since I have enjoyed nearly all the movies they have done together.
Reel Boi
12-29-2008, 03:22 AM
this sounds interesting so i'll defenitly be seeing this!
Justin
12-29-2008, 10:10 AM
That was a really stupid thing to say.
JheyDC
12-29-2008, 10:26 AM
I personally like the Burton/Depp connection.
I mean yeah, it's tiring but I can't really complain about it since I have enjoyed nearly all the movies they have done together.
I agree with you there, one of the best they made together was Sweeney Todd
iv3rdawG
06-22-2009, 11:37 AM
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Sparkle~Girl
06-22-2009, 12:16 PM
Wow! I love the look!
Spirited Away
06-22-2009, 12:32 PM
It's a real shame Burton and Co. didn't shoot this in 3D, it would have been a much more eye-popping experience. Instead, they shot it in 2D, on film instead of video (why???), and are selectively applying all the 3D effects and filling in the depth in post-production.
Basically, this film is "faux-D". It doesn't look the same as something shot natively with two cameras, because it is literally a 2D image that will have ****loads of CGI depth filling crap added to it (which looks fake, but given how this film looks, it probably won't be that noticeable), to make it "3D".
Besides that, looks very colourful and out-there, so count me in regardless of the marketing ploy they'll inevitably play.
PsYkOoOoO
06-22-2009, 12:53 PM
White hair and black eyebrows. How strange.
quiksilver022
06-22-2009, 03:00 PM
Wow.
casablanca3
06-22-2009, 08:53 PM
Looks insane but ridiculously good. Will be crazy no doubt.
jbailey84
06-23-2009, 01:58 AM
Alice In Wonderland is one of my favorite stories and I have such a huge grin on my face seeing those pictures.
I LOVE how Anne looks :D
and its awesome the movie is being released on my 26th birthday!! :D :)
Neverending
06-23-2009, 02:24 AM
It's a real shame Burton and Co. didn't shoot this in 3D, it would have been a much more eye-popping experience. Instead, they shot it in 2D, on film instead of video (why???), and are selectively applying all the 3D effects and filling in the depth in post-production.
Basically, this film is "faux-D". It doesn't look the same as something shot natively with two cameras, because it is literally a 2D image that will have ****loads of CGI depth filling crap added to it (which looks fake, but given how this film looks, it probably won't be that noticeable), to make it "3D".
Besides that, looks very colourful and out-there, so count me in regardless of the marketing ploy they'll inevitably play.
The whole 3D craze is ridiculous. It's been 50 years. You think it would have caught on by now! The problem is simple. 3D looks horrible at HOME. 3D can never truely catch on they'll people can get the same experience at home.
You'll watch Alice in Wonderland once in theaters, but how many times at home? I think Burton made the right call.
Justin
06-23-2009, 02:30 AM
Meh....
jbailey84
06-23-2009, 02:37 AM
im waiting for Depp to pull props out of his hat and make bad jokes
Spirited Away
06-23-2009, 04:49 AM
3D looks horrible at HOME. 3D can never truely catch on they'll people can get the same experience at home.
That doesn't mean anything. All 3D films shot 2-cam can be made 2D, simply by only showing what the left camera sees, instead of flickering between both cameras.
Regardless, this film is still a 3D film. Burton will be expecting most people to see it in Real-D. My issue was that they're doing it using the "faux-d" technique, as opposed to shooting it for real with two cameras.
Necross
06-23-2009, 09:08 AM
I personally hate 3D, the glasses detract from the colors, and sometimes its pointlessly distracting. Also, I already wear glasses, so having two pairs on? No thank you, not to mnetion paying an extra 5 dollars a movie ticket.
Also, I love the look as well.
FranklinTard
06-23-2009, 12:07 PM
so it was filmed originally in 2d eh? wonder which one to see it in...
IanTheCool
06-23-2009, 06:53 PM
I personally hate 3D, the glasses detract from the colors, and sometimes its pointlessly distracting. Also, I already wear glasses, so having two pairs on? No thank you, not to mnetion paying an extra 5 dollars a movie ticket.
I'm with you Necross.
Fiverrabbit
06-24-2009, 03:10 AM
Awesome!
Spirited Away
06-24-2009, 04:36 AM
so it was filmed originally in 2d eh? wonder which one to see it in...
You'll want to see it in 3D, as the film is optimised for 3D presentation. Seeing it in 2D would be the equivalent to watching Beowulf in 2D, some of the effects simply wouldn't work.
Neverending
06-24-2009, 05:00 PM
I'm sure they're doing a 2D and 3D version.
jbailey84
06-24-2009, 05:12 PM
a couple that weren't posted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/jbailey84/burtonaliceadd1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/jbailey84/burtonaliceadd2.jpg
Deexan
06-24-2009, 05:48 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/jbailey84/burtonaliceadd2.jpg
Lol, Matt Lucas is so perfect for those two; I'm laughing just looking at them.
jbailey84
06-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Im curious on how Alan Rickman will look as the catapiilar
sshuttari
06-25-2009, 02:10 AM
It looks creepy... I LIKE IT!
Except for the part where Johnny Depp looks like a really weird version of Madonna.
jbailey84
06-25-2009, 04:06 PM
i think Depp looks like a cracked out Carrot Top
but this is perfect for Burtons vision/version.
sshuttari
06-25-2009, 05:44 PM
Mehh I see Madonna still.
jbailey84
06-25-2009, 06:00 PM
madonna face, carrot top hair ;) :P
sshuttari
06-25-2009, 06:04 PM
haha I'll give you that.
jbailey84
06-25-2009, 06:37 PM
i wonder when the teaser will pop up since the movie is released in March 2010.
maybe before Harry Potter?
EnderDeschain
06-27-2009, 03:29 AM
Hnn. I wasn't too enthused about the ridiculous-looking Johnny Depp picture, but the Tweedledum and Tweedledee one is good, as is the Alice one. Those shots of the scenery look cool, too. This might not suck like I initially thought, but I still think they really ****ed the soup bowl in the Alice casting.
halo7
06-27-2009, 11:22 AM
Hmm, I wonder who you would have picked.
jbailey84
06-27-2009, 02:04 PM
i think the casting is great, just curious to see how they'll look as that character.
LuvMiTux
06-28-2009, 02:56 PM
This movie looks like something a pothead would enjoy HAHA :P
Mr. Todd
06-30-2009, 11:29 PM
There were two posters for this when I saw Transformers 2 last night. Nothing spectacular, though, just the Hatter and Queen of Heart pics on the previous page plus the title, release date, and tagline ("You're invited to a very special date" or something to that effect) and all that jazz slapped on it.
Neverending
07-22-2009, 01:53 PM
Trailer:
http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/14219277/alice-in-wonderland/videos/alice_wondr_tease1_072209.html
Spirited Away
07-22-2009, 02:31 PM
After seeing that, I've gone off it. Doesn't looks particularly captivating beyond the eccentric visuals.
ViRUs
07-22-2009, 02:48 PM
What were you expecting really? We all know the Alice in Wonderland story. I figured the visuals would be great. I think the movie will be pretty good, I'm looking forward to it.
jbailey84
07-22-2009, 02:58 PM
looks great to me :D
FranklinTard
07-22-2009, 02:59 PM
link does not work for me... i guess i have to wait.
jbailey84
07-22-2009, 03:00 PM
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Diablo
07-22-2009, 03:09 PM
Nice, looks awesome.
iv3rdawG
07-22-2009, 03:55 PM
A little too much Johnny Depp. I know they're trying to market the film around him since he's the biggest actor in the film and since the actress playing Alice is pretty unknown but it's called Alice in Wonderland. I don't remember the animated version that much but was the Mad Hatter even in it for that long?
Diablo
07-22-2009, 04:07 PM
People who have read the script say that the story is still about Alice in Wonderland, just Mad Hatter has a more prominent role. But come on, of course they are going to market Depp.
Spirited Away
07-22-2009, 04:13 PM
It should be marketed as an ensemble film, perhaps with Johnny Depp getting the main credit, not just exclusively him.
FranklinTard
07-22-2009, 04:16 PM
and that video was already snatched. when does it officially get released anyway? the trailer.
IanTheCool
07-22-2009, 05:18 PM
Doesn't looks particularly captivating beyond the eccentric visuals.
Isn't that he definition of a Tim Burton film?
Knerys
07-22-2009, 05:40 PM
I can't get any of the videos to work either. but man, I am lovin' the art design that I have seen so far. Typical Burton, but still bloody awesome.
donny
07-22-2009, 06:42 PM
I didn't think Depp was in int that long, to be honest.
Here's a link with a couple of trailers if people are still having trouble watching it. The first one should still work.
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2009/07/trailer-for-burtons-alice-in-wonderland#more-16009
IanTheCool
07-22-2009, 06:47 PM
Wow, they're getting removed fast
donny
07-22-2009, 06:55 PM
Yeah, it's stupid. What a big deal it is to see it a few days early.
Fanible
07-22-2009, 07:14 PM
Meh - that's my reaction thus far. I haven't liked a single book adaption Burton has done, so I'm not terribly excited, but I figured if this was one straight-adapted book to be made, it would probably work more in his favor (since the original book is far better than most of the other adaptions made)..... except, it appears he's not doing that this time around, being that he didn't name it the same as the original book (something he made a point of doing with 'Chocolate Factory'), and apparently it's a "sequel," being that she's older, and returning.
And I agree, the trailer I watched made it out as if Johnny Depp is a key star in the film, but maybe he is. I'd like to see a full trailer featuring Alice prominently, and then just have a run down of the big list of actors and some quick cut scenes of each of them. That being said, the trailer also didn't seem to indicate at all that this was a sequel of sorts, taking place 10 years after the original story.
p.s.
Where's McGee's Alice!? I'd definitely prefer that film over this. Bring on the crazed, brunette Alice in a far more twisted Wonderland!
Diablo
07-22-2009, 07:30 PM
Yeah, it's stupid. What a big deal it is to see it a few days early.
Yeah, it kind of sucks for them though, they had a bunch of viral sites (at least through Facebook) that were suppose to release the teaser but it got out early.
donny
07-22-2009, 07:32 PM
Yeah, I can see that. But I dunno, I just think that it's not a big deal if it comes out a day or two earlier than it's supposed to. That's just me though.
jbailey84
07-22-2009, 07:56 PM
thats crazy how fast the videos got pulled. Im with everyone else, who cares if it got released a few days early, its just a teaser. they haven't stated what movie it will be attached too have they?
FranklinTard
07-22-2009, 08:34 PM
long wait... but i liked it. bare in mind i still haven't seen the original...
Jordan KO
07-22-2009, 09:54 PM
Heres Johnny!!!!!!
drob127
07-22-2009, 10:07 PM
i think the trailer looked dumb...i hated willy wonka and this is looking like the same thing
Justin
07-22-2009, 10:30 PM
Meh.
It looks awful. Effects, tone, design...everything looked cheap, stale and played out.
Spirited Away
07-23-2009, 10:29 AM
thats crazy how fast the videos got pulled. Im with everyone else, who cares if it got released a few days early, its just a teaser. they haven't stated what movie it will be attached too have they?
I think Disney were just testing the waters with the "leak", and are currently making the final tweaks before uploading the official one. Maybe the Johnny Depp title card might disappear from the final version?
Spirited Away
07-23-2009, 10:31 AM
Let's put it this way, if Disney expected great things from this film, they would have released it at either Christmas or summer, not March.
ViRUs
07-23-2009, 01:56 PM
There have been some decent March showings of movies.
Naite22
07-23-2009, 02:51 PM
Saw the teaser. Nothing special, exactly what I expected.... Just ANOTHER Tim Burton movie, this time adapting Alice in Wonderland in his own little half-perverted way... Oh, and it stars Johnny Depp - AGAIN!... I really dig Johnny as an actor, but Burtons style is getting really old.
Justin
07-23-2009, 03:23 PM
Burton has always been a one-trick pony. He'll never be anything more.
Jordan KO
07-23-2009, 07:34 PM
Saw the teaser. Nothing special, exactly what I expected.... Just ANOTHER Tim Burton movie, this time adapting Alice in Wonderland in his own little half-perverted way... Oh, and it stars Johnny Depp - AGAIN!... I really dig Johnny as an actor, but Burtons style is getting really old.
Yep
Rowdy12
07-23-2009, 07:56 PM
I found the new trailer that just came out today!!
Official Alice In Wonderland HD Trailer and Stillllllls!!!!!!!!! (http://turntherightcorner.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/official-alice-in-wonderland-teaser-trailer-here-in-hi-def/)
Chessh2936
07-23-2009, 08:33 PM
I love how you guys are insulting Tim Burton, saying he " is not talented " and a " one hit wonder " . Obviously the people that know what there doing disagree, burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory made over 200,000,000 and got pretty good reviews.
jbailey84
07-23-2009, 08:48 PM
you forgot 3 more zeros theres Chessh
Chessh2936
07-23-2009, 09:03 PM
you forgot 3 more zeros theres Chessh
haha thanks
Jordan KO
07-23-2009, 10:48 PM
has Burton made a good movie since Batman?
drob127
07-24-2009, 12:00 AM
willy wonka used to be a great movie but burton destroyed it. i dont care how much it made that movie was terrible and this looks just as bad if not worse. i swear to god i will protest out on the streets if they let him anywhere near the wizard of oz
IanTheCool
07-24-2009, 12:04 AM
I love how you guys are insulting Tim Burton, saying he " is not talented " and a " one hit wonder " . Obviously the people that know what there doing disagree, burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory made over 200,000,000 and got pretty good reviews.
Michael Bay's movies also make a lot of money. Still, that has no effect on whether he is a good director and whether or not I should like his movies.
krushgroove19
07-24-2009, 12:17 AM
willy wonka was awful. tim burton's been hit or miss for me, but i'll at least give it a chance, though the trailer doesn't really look awesome to me.
Big Fish was the only movie of his that I thought was great.
krushgroove19
07-24-2009, 12:26 AM
that one was good. i like the earlier stuff too, like beetlejuice and edward scissorhands and pee wee's big adventure, but i grew up on them.
Fanible
07-24-2009, 12:43 AM
I really don't mind his style and direction. I sometimes love it. It's been mostly the stories he's wound up adapting/directing that I've been disappointed with.
EnderDeschain
07-24-2009, 12:55 AM
has Burton made a good movie since Batman?
Batman sucked. And it's not just in comparative retrospect that I say that, it sucked way before Nolan's movies illustrated it's suckiness even further. Something about Burton's style just doesn't work, even when it seems like it should, at least for me I mean. I would've figured Chocolate Factory or Sleepy Hollow might fit his style well, but they didn't. At all. The only movie I've ever really loved of his was Sweeney Todd, and I think that's mostly 'cuz I love revenge stories and I'm also a big ol' sissy who digs musicals. But other than that he's always been miss, and never hit, in my opinion.
All that being said, I'm still willing to give Alice a chance. It's another story that seems like it's suited to his style. The trailer is underwhelming, to say the least, but I'll reserve real judgment until I see it. I was thoroughly disappointed when I read about that "10 years later" horse****, though. This is probably gonna suck. A straight translation of the book would be almost impossible to do correctly, but 10 years later? ****. But I ain't judging, gosh darn it.
quiksilver022
07-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Anyone know where I can still see the trailer? And I agree, Burton keeps accepting jobs for just about anything, so he can put his heavily diluted "creative spin" on it. If anything, Colleen Atwood, who does all of his costumes, and his set designer, who I believe is usually Rick Heinrichs, deserve all of the credit for his movies. The scripts are always weak, and it's not like he actually has to direct Johnny Depp.. Depp runs the show.
Diablo
07-24-2009, 01:19 AM
has Burton made a good movie since Batman?
Yes.
Anyone know where I can still see the trailer?
Yeah, it's officially up now and I think someone posted a link to HD a page back but here is the Youtube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J22yNB0hpSE
Tornado
07-24-2009, 01:24 AM
Eh. It looks alright I guess. I've never found Burton to be a particularly great director; I don't really care for his style I guess. Big Fish was excellent, and I like Edward Scissorhands, but outside of those and his Batfilms I don't really like anything else he's done.
jbailey84
07-24-2009, 08:50 AM
that one was good. i like the earlier stuff too, like beetlejuice and edward scissorhands and pee wee's big adventure, but i grew up on them.
what crazy, if it weren't for the success of Pee Wee's Big Adventure (personal fav of mine), he wouldn't have directed Beetlejuice or something like that. i think it was on the commentary for PW. but yea I really like some of his early movies and Sleepy Hollow.
Charlie & the Chocolate Factory was very different. i dont think it ruined the original but it was very different from the original.
Jordan KO
07-24-2009, 11:39 AM
Onsecond thought i don't think i want to see this anymore, i mean Johnnys awesome but wow that trailer was lame. the only Burton movies i like were the first Batman or Beetlegeuse. the rest are meh....
jbailey84
07-24-2009, 11:41 AM
well its a just a lil teaser, im sure more will be shown in the actual trailer. what more needs to be known about Alice In Wonderland? its gonna be different because Burton is basing it off of Alice Through the Looking Glass and not the Disney's Alice In Wonderland
Fanible
07-24-2009, 03:14 PM
I'm pretty sure this isn't based on Through the Looking Glass. This is a new story taking place long after the events of the original Lewis Carroll books.
FranklinTard
07-24-2009, 03:38 PM
sounds more interesting than i had first thought.
jbailey84
07-24-2009, 03:42 PM
I'm pretty sure this isn't based on Through the Looking Glass. This is a new story taking place long after the events of the original Lewis Carroll books.
even better
Ramplate
07-24-2009, 06:22 PM
I am interested although I was pretty disappointed in Wonka - I think that is the only Burton film that has let me down. On the whole they're pretty trippy
casablanca3
07-24-2009, 07:28 PM
I'm pretty sure this isn't based on Through the Looking Glass. This is a new story taking place long after the events of the original Lewis Carroll books.
I read Burton said that it is based on all of the books and not just the main one.
LuvMiTux
07-24-2009, 09:29 PM
The goofy look on Depps face in the teaser remind me so much of Elijah Wood haha I dunno why...Cracked out Carrot Top, typical Burton hahaha
Fanible
07-24-2009, 10:46 PM
I read Burton said that it is based on all of the books and not just the main one.
If they have flashbacks, maybe? The whole deal is that Alice is 17 (or 19?) now, and that it takes place 10 years after the events of the original books, just before she's suppose to get proposed to.
ViRUs
07-25-2009, 09:04 PM
I dont know, I've always liked his style, and really liked Charlie and the Chocolate factory. Not looking forward to this as much now, but I bet I will more towards the end of the year.
jbailey84
07-25-2009, 09:16 PM
when i first watched his verison of C&tCF, i didnt like it all that much. found it odd, but what isnt odd from Burton. but it grew on my after watching it on DVD.
like i said earlier, i'm very curious to see his version though
Ramplate
07-26-2009, 09:01 AM
Just watched the trailer at Yahoo movies
I really like the look and feel of it - should be an interesting ride.
looks like the Hatter is a major focus of this tale
casablanca3
07-26-2009, 04:51 PM
If they have flashbacks, maybe? The whole deal is that Alice is 17 (or 19?) now, and that it takes place 10 years after the events of the original books, just before she's suppose to get proposed to.
Yeah, who would know with Burton really haha. I am pretty stoked for this though.
quiksilver022
07-26-2009, 05:22 PM
Just watched the trailer at Yahoo movies
I really like the look and feel of it - should be an interesting ride.
looks like the Hatter is a major focus of this tale
Of course he is. Burton can only sell tickets if Depp is the main focus.
ViRUs
07-26-2009, 08:24 PM
Right, because both of the Batmans, and Big Fish bombed in the box office
jbailey84
07-26-2009, 09:35 PM
i really like the pairing of Depp & Burton. it's like DeNiro and Scorsese. theres nothing wrong with a director having a favorite actor that he likes to work with.
darthspielberg
07-27-2009, 12:27 AM
I've been a Burton fan since before it was fashionable to be a Burton fan (Thanks Hot Topic!) and I think this looks fun. Nothing revolutionary, but a nice way to spend a few hours in your local multiplex.
darthspielberg
07-27-2009, 12:31 AM
willy wonka used to be a great movie but burton destroyed it. i dont care how much it made that movie was terrible and this looks just as bad if not worse. i swear to god i will protest out on the streets if they let him anywhere near the wizard of oz
First off, they are doing a new Oz movie, and Tim Burton is not involved. (hold your horses, it's based on later books in the Oz series, not the first one) and secondly, Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a very faitful adaptation of the BOOK, not Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Even Roald Dahl hated that movie, and he himself chose Burton to do the new movie. It's not Burton's best, but it's not the crime you make it out to be. Of course you are allowed to hate it, but it's a TON better than the original, which only has one thing going for it (Gene Wilder, everything else is total crap)
darthspielberg
07-27-2009, 12:37 AM
A straight translation of the book would be almost impossible to do correctly, but 10 years later? ****. But I ain't judging, gosh darn it.
I think of it this way. Burton is doing the Return to Oz or Hook of the Wonderland series. It's an interesting take on the concept as we've seen DOZENS of fairly similar versions.
Obviously it could be horrible, every movie has that chance, but I think the visuals mixed with the story (which I am very fond of. Wonderland tales have always been a favorite since childhood) will equal, as I said earlier, a fun time at the movies.
Holy Triple Post.
krushgroove19
07-27-2009, 12:40 AM
when did roald dahl choose tim burton to do the movie? he died fifteen years before it was released. at least ten years before tim burton even started working on it.
darthspielberg
07-27-2009, 12:44 AM
when did roald dahl choose tim burton to do the movie? he died fifteen years before it was released. at least ten years before tim burton even started working on it.
Correct. Before he died, he met Tim Burton and told him that he was the right man for the job. It was one of Burton's big talking points while he promoted the film. Felicity Dahl (Roald's widow) approached Tim several years later, the deal was officially struck, and then the movie was made.
krushgroove19
07-27-2009, 12:50 AM
aha. i was confused for a moment.
Neverending
07-27-2009, 08:17 AM
I read Burton said that it is based on all of the books and not just the main one.
During the press junket at Comic Con he said that the movie features elements of all the books. He's taking the best of each book and creating an original story around it. So, it's based on the books but at the same time...not really.
quiksilver022
07-27-2009, 11:44 PM
Right, because both of the Batmans, and Big Fish bombed in the box office
Uh.. Big Fish kind of bombed. It was a fantastic movie, but it had a production budget of $70 million + $30 million in advertising, and only pulled in $66 million. And anyone can make a Batman movie that will gross over $200 million.. Hell, even Joel Schumacher did it with his crass Batman & Robin. I'm just saying.. Burton doesn't just do well with Depp, he needs Depp, and the Hot Topic branding that comes along with anything he touches. I'm just saying. Nice sets, costumes and Johnny Depp can only take you so far on a creative level.
Jordan KO
07-27-2009, 11:46 PM
ill be seeing Sucker Punch instead of this
krushgroove19
07-28-2009, 12:17 AM
good luck, seeing as sucker punch doesn't come out until 2011.
Neverending
07-29-2009, 12:54 PM
anyone can make a Batman movie that will gross over $200 million.. Hell, even Joel Schumacher did it with his crass Batman & Robin.
Um...no. Batman & Robin grossed $107.3 million.
Burton doesn't just do well with Depp
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, Beetlejuice, the two Batman movies, and Planet of the Apes were box office hits.
Ed Wood, starring Depp, was a flop. Sweeney Todd, also starring Depp, didn't do so hot either.
So, Burton doesn't really need Depp to make money.
Fanible
07-30-2009, 03:24 AM
Um...no. Batman & Robin grossed $107.3 million.
He probably meant the worldwide gross.
jbailey84
07-30-2009, 03:18 PM
I think Sweeny Todd didnt do so well because it was a musical
IanTheCool
07-30-2009, 07:42 PM
Just watched the trailer. Looks pretty much exactly like I would expect.
jbailey84
07-30-2009, 08:42 PM
Alan Rickman is the perfect choice to voice the catepillar :D
and I forgot about Crispin Glover being in this.
Cougars
08-23-2009, 05:17 PM
It looks to me like Tim Burton has done an awesome job creating this fantasy land that looks real! As if he saying to us, come along for a wild story where anything is possible. He's a wonderful storyteller, so I'm looking forward to seeing what he has in store for us on this one. And obviously Johnny Depp will be great.
nick22
09-02-2009, 09:26 PM
can you imagine seeing this stoned. I would never but it would be very trippy. I love the colors and everything about the visuals.
cwuSTUDent
09-03-2009, 12:24 PM
can you imagine seeing this stoned. I would never but it would be very trippy. I love the colors and everything about the visuals.
That sound bomb, doesn't it!?
Spirited Away
09-04-2009, 11:29 AM
I think Sweeny Todd didnt do so well because it was a musical
I think it might have more to do with it being a violent film than because it's a musical.
FranklinTard
09-04-2009, 12:04 PM
can you imagine seeing this stoned. I would never but it would be very trippy. I love the colors and everything about the visuals.
why not? said it yourself it would be a good time.
Cougars
09-04-2009, 12:21 PM
Yea, that movie had a tough time finding an audience, it was a dark musical. Alice is a classic tale, so you've already drawn in the older crowd. Plus, all the young kids that have never even seen the film, this will not be their generations version of it. And of course general film fans I'm sure will have an interest in this, just from the footage alone and the given fact that it's Depp working with Burton again.
Tolkien
09-08-2009, 02:52 AM
I don't know, I really, really enjoyed Sweeny Todd. I actually had a blast with it. I love musicals, so there's a reason right there. But being a dark musical, I had no problems. Heck, one of my all-time favorite modern musicals is REPO!. lol. I say "modern" because nothing can ever beat "The Sound of Music." Nothing.
Knerys
09-09-2009, 02:01 AM
Um...no. Batman & Robin grossed $107.3 million.
Entirely too much money.
Cougars
09-12-2009, 05:42 PM
I think Alice should make some good money. I know I'm going to see it in theaters, but because the film has such a history, it should get a lot of it's old fans in the seats as well as new ones that are fans of Depp and Burton.
Art_of_crime
09-12-2009, 08:01 PM
looks like another useless cgi hollywood acid trip.
FranklinTard
09-12-2009, 10:45 PM
another? name some more so i can check them out. becuase i am in for this one.
Tolkien
09-13-2009, 07:19 AM
Hell I'd be interested in knowing too. Never seen a cgi acid trip movie before, lol.
Sounds awesome!
cwuSTUDent
09-13-2009, 10:16 PM
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krushgroove19
09-14-2009, 12:21 AM
spirited away wasn't cgi at all. at least from what i can tell.
cwuSTUDent
09-14-2009, 05:13 PM
:)
Justin
09-14-2009, 08:12 PM
Miyazaki's animated films are drawn, not computer generated. Luckily, we still have individuals like him to create worlds with pure artistry.
Stay Puft
09-20-2009, 06:09 AM
has Burton made a good movie since Batman?
A NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS
NUFF SAID
if you didn't dig that movie then all hope is lost and professional help you need to seek
Stay Puft
09-20-2009, 06:28 AM
I think Sweeny Todd didnt do so well because it was a musical
I'm going to have to agree
it's what kept me away at least
can't stand musicals
Cougars
09-20-2009, 04:49 PM
Wanted to share this new Burton interview (http://www.thewrap.com/article/tim-burton-grilled_5117), he talks a lot about the trailer and his opinions on it being leaked a day early. It's a good read and it sounds like Alice should be pretty awesome from the art direction stand point.
cwuSTUDent
09-21-2009, 10:02 AM
Wanted to share this new Burton interview (http://www.thewrap.com/article/tim-burton-grilled_5117), he talks a lot about the trailer and his opinions on it being leaked a day early. It's a good read and it sounds like Alice should be pretty awesome from the art direction stand point.
Thanks for the link, dude! Did you happen to see how creepy he looks (Burton, I mean)? I have a feeling that Alice (the film) will be on par with Planet of the Apes: nice visuals, but no heart in the plot. I would love to be proved wrong though.
southern
09-21-2009, 11:02 AM
Just watched the trailer. Looks pretty much exactly like I would expect.
Same Burton ****, different movie? I agree.
Planet of the Apes were box office hits.
That shouldn't have been. Aweful movie :nono:
Cougars
09-25-2009, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the link, dude! Did you happen to see how creepy he looks (Burton, I mean)? I have a feeling that Alice (the film) will be on par with Planet of the Apes: nice visuals, but no heart in the plot. I would love to be proved wrong though.
Ha Burton is a crazy looking dude for sure. Almost looks like a mad scientist. He's got that creative look, that's for sure.
I hear what your saying about the stunning visuals but no heart in the plot. I'm hopeful that with Depp on board, that Johnny wouldn't commit unless he felt the piece had enough character development. Since he seems to be such an actor's actor... you know? He's all about the character, so I think he and Burton will make sure that this film has some heart, and isn't just a fluff piece.
Cougars
11-08-2009, 03:05 PM
Just wanted to bump this thread, anyone happen to see that Johnny Depp was at the Spike TV Scream Awards picking up an award (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1624118/story.jhtml) to the most anticipated fantasy film of next year for Alice In Wonderland. Good to see there's pletny of excitement out there for this one.
Fiverrabbit
12-16-2009, 04:23 PM
Yay, the second trailer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Pl2qGwKFs
jbailey84
12-16-2009, 04:26 PM
awesome :D
Ramplate
12-16-2009, 04:38 PM
The Queen's head looks poorly pasted on in some scenes where she moves funny, but all in all this looks good
Siffy's Alice was a boring train wreck so this should easily beat that hands down lol
King_of_Skid_Row
12-16-2009, 07:05 PM
Yeah. Honestly I thought Tin Man was miles better than Alice. Only good thing about that mini series was that Alice was hot....but I dont know it feels wrong to have a hot Alice.
RedVader 2004
12-16-2009, 10:30 PM
Why she obviously is not a little girl and says alice is back so figure she is a bit older.
Matrix_Fan
12-17-2009, 12:05 AM
Seems kinda meh to me. Looks like one of those 3-D movies that seem more concerned about throwing crap at the audience than telling a good story. Johnny Depp seems to be a primary focus, rather than Alice herself. Last I checked, it was called Alice In Wonderland, not The Mad Hatter and Wonderland. Also, what's with the film pulling a Narnia and having some sort of battle scene?
Dogbert0228
12-17-2009, 02:01 AM
It's a curious animation style. I hope the 3D gives it a unqiue depth that the trailer seems to imply. I like the "otherworldliness" of the trailer, however some of the CGI (like the pig and the way the Red Queen moves awkwardly) looks slightly cheap and/or unfinished.
cwuSTUDent
12-17-2009, 08:26 AM
Johnny Depp seems to be a primary focus, rather than Alice herself. Last I checked, it was called Alice In Wonderland, not The Mad Hatter and Wonderland.
I noticed the same thing. If you look at the credits at the end of the trailer, Depps's name is first and prominent, among the other big name actors, with Wasikowski's name tacked on at the end, almost like an afterthought. I realize there are actors who are far more famous than "Alice," but I think the studio should bring "Alice" to the forefront, give her a little spotlight, considering she's an up-and-coming actor in the States...AND THE TITLE CHARACTER!!!
FranklinTard
12-17-2009, 11:55 AM
depp looks off in this. he needs to do something more serious again. much better than his 'zany' characters.
docstop
12-17-2009, 12:10 PM
Just watched the trailer. It should really be titled, "Alice and the Lord of the Rings." So many scenes in it reminded me of LOTR.
Justin
12-17-2009, 12:12 PM
Eh.....trailer looked extremely lame. Burton needs to just quit while he's behind. He's clearly a one-trick pony.
docstop
12-17-2009, 12:13 PM
That was my intent too. Nothing original for me to get excited about. Borrowing from other movies.
moviebuff801
12-17-2009, 02:30 PM
Well, I'm interested in this. Seems Burton's visual pallete greatly compliments Wonderland. I'll definitely be seeing this in 3-D.
Boiiinng
12-17-2009, 03:23 PM
I don't like the whole "Alice is returning to Wonderland" thing. Is it American McGee's or not? Because that was their storyline, too. I think it looks fun, though.
Fanible
12-17-2009, 07:47 PM
I'd rather watch American McGee's.
Justin
12-17-2009, 11:10 PM
Edit.
PsYkOoOoO
12-17-2009, 11:13 PM
Eh.....trailer looked extremely lame. Burton needs to just quit while he's behind. He's clearly a one-trick pony.
I just went for his exhibition at MoMA today. I must say that I do prefer his drawings and conceptual arts rather than his movies. I think he is a way better artist than a director.
Justin
12-17-2009, 11:16 PM
Really? I actually wanted to see his exhibit.
PsYkOoOoO
12-17-2009, 11:19 PM
Really? I actually wanted to see his exhibit.
That's just my opinion, of course. If you want to go, I'd suggest you to go as early as possible, or as late into the exhibition as possible (which is in April I think). There were A HELL LOT OF PEOPLE in that section today that I felt irritated while being in it. I felt like kicking people out of the way just so that I could check out the exhibits. Everybody flocked to that exhibition, it was nuts.
Neverending
12-18-2009, 12:17 AM
I think he is a way better artist than a director.
Crazy talk. To quote Roger Ebert, "Tim Burton has never made a boring movie. I'll give him that." Love or hate him, it can't be denied that he's a good entertainer. Even Planet of the Apes, the worst thing he's ever done, still had some redeeming qualities.
PsYkOoOoO
12-18-2009, 12:39 AM
Crazy talk. To quote Roger Ebert, "Tim Burton has never made a boring movie. I'll give him that." Love or hate him, it can't be denied that he's a good entertainer. Even Planet of the Apes, the worst thing he's ever done, still had some redeeming qualities.
I never said that he sucks as a director. I'm just saying he is better as an artist. So, what crazy talk?
FranklinTard
12-18-2009, 01:24 AM
Even Planet of the Apes, the worst thing he's ever done, still had some redeeming qualities.
crazy talk. name these qualities.
Neverending
12-18-2009, 01:28 AM
crazy talk. name these qualities.
the make-up
the look of the picture
tim roth
paul giamatti
michael clarke duncan
estella warren when she isn't talking
Fanible
12-18-2009, 03:04 AM
The make-up was definitely it's best feature. I loved the way they looked. That makes me dislike the film even more, though, because it was completely wasted.
Cougars
12-20-2009, 01:00 PM
I think it looks really entertaining. On aesthetics alone it looks pretty intriguing. The sets were full of color, and like a few mentioned, the make-up and costumes were really impressive. I'm excited to see this in March.
insaneMoViEgoer
12-22-2009, 12:59 AM
The cheshire cat freaks me out. When i went to watch Avatar in 3d today they played the trailer in 3d. and when the shot of the cat came up where it floats toward the camera i decided i should probably watch this in 2d :P
jbailey84
12-22-2009, 01:21 AM
ooohh, i think i'll check out Avatar in 3D for the AIW trailer :D
insaneMoViEgoer
12-22-2009, 01:33 AM
It's the first trailer not the new one.
Cougars
12-23-2009, 02:05 PM
The Cheshire Cat is looking really creepy/awesome! All those teeth are crazy looking. I love at the end of the new trailer they make his two eyes the 00's in 2010. I thought that was really creative.
RedVader 2004
12-23-2009, 02:13 PM
The Cheshire cat in book version is exactly how i imagined him how Burton has him in the movie. I never saw him as the disney cartoon version. For really i saw him as neither good or bad really and Burtons looks is how he should look in my mind. I don't really consider a BUrton film really a disney movie even if they are writing the checks.
DrBeeMovie
12-24-2009, 11:05 AM
I had Jim carry in my mind. i reckon he is more of a cat than tim curry , but their family names sounds the same so maybe it'll work out!
jbailey84
12-24-2009, 04:11 PM
Tim Curry? he's not even in the movie, it's Stephen Fry voicing the Cheshire Cat.
RedVader 2004
12-24-2009, 04:30 PM
Um no Its Carry and Curry one known for having a great voice talent the other is a major goofball whos movies have became same free fall as Eddie Murphy.
jbailey84
12-24-2009, 04:58 PM
ahh ok i see now.
sshuttari
12-24-2009, 05:24 PM
This movie isn't looking all that interesting... I might see it in IMAX 3D if the reviews are decent.
Also I didn't like Charlie and the Choclate Factory remake.
Cougars
01-07-2010, 02:10 PM
I think it's going to be really interesting. The fact that Burton is doing it as a sequel with a new story, as opposed to a carbon remake has me really excited. Plus, the involvement of Depp and Hathaway, would of had me interested anyway.
Did you all see the new exclusive Facebook photo (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3084187&id=96787126667) of The Mad Hatter? It's a very cool image. Burton is quite the artist.
Justin
01-09-2010, 10:41 AM
Meh.
donny
01-09-2010, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I'm not too interested in seeing this.
This movie seems like a parody of a Tim Burton film.
The formula is getting old as hell.
-Have a dark, freaky and surreal atmosphere. The source material is light and funny, or whimsical? Too bad. Tim Burton says "I don't care what the source material is like, this movie will give you the feeling that you're taking shrooms on Halloween AND YOU'LL TAKE IT."
-Johnny Depp as some weird eccentric dude in makeup
-Helena Bonham Carter as some weird eccentric overacting lady in makeup
-Have every supporting cast member be eccentric, overact, and wear lots of makeup and be grotesque in some way, even if they're playing a lawyer or something
-The same five or six people in the main roles
-Lots of freaky ass crap happens
-Probably lots of scenes in cemetaries and stuff. Weird closeups.
And the worst part is, there's a building next to where I live that always has a giant movie poster on the side of it. For the past week or two, the giant poster is for this movie, so I have to look at at a 10-stories tall version of Johnny Depp's freaky-ass clown face when I drive home every day.
Go away movie. Go away. Go away.
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