View Full Version : Most Overrated Films Of 2007
quiksilver022
11-08-2007, 05:05 PM
Well, 2007 is closing in on us, and from hereon there will be a couple last-minute blockbusters, and a plethora of holiday flicks. What, in your opinion thus far, have been the most over-rated films of this year?
Ratatouille would have to be my most over-rated film, hands-down. Sure, it was a good movie, but had the name Pixar not been slapped across the poster, nobody would be hailing it nearly as much as they are. I thought the premise was good, but he "by chance" served Ratatouille to that Ego chef for dinner, which happened to remind him of his childhood, which suddenly made him happy and agree with 2000 rats serving his meal? Kind of lame IMO. Not nearly as good as Pixar's past features, 'Toy Story' 'Incredibles' or, my favorite, 'Finding Nemo'. Still a good flick, just EXTREMELY overrated.
Now dish.
JBond
11-08-2007, 05:16 PM
I loved Ratatouille for the movie. And I was in the child/family mindset way before I had to accept that Ego was going to love the meal. Of course he was going to. Besides, he didnt' exactly smile when he saw 2000 rats, he pondered over the whole thing that night when coming up with his review, it was great.
I apologize that the second post is already arguing the first post, but you hit a chord with me there. Ratatouille is the one movie I really liked this year. ;)
IanTheCool
11-08-2007, 05:46 PM
transformers is the most overrated without a doubt.
Doomsday
11-08-2007, 06:06 PM
Knocked Up for me. I saw it on DVD after hearing from just about everyone that it would be "one of the funniest, if not THE funniest movie I would ever see." The movie got a couple of chuckles from me, but that's about it. It was nowhere near as funny as other movies that have come out recently, and that's still not saying much.
Dracula
11-08-2007, 06:12 PM
transformers is the most overrated without a doubt.
ditto
halo7
11-08-2007, 06:13 PM
300, good action movie. Nothing more.
Starwars411
11-08-2007, 06:36 PM
Spider-Man 3. Okay action, but the story wasn't that great. Too many villains, should've just had Harry as the GG2, then him and Peter could've reconciled at the end of the movie and they could've had Eddie transform into Venom in the very last scene, which could then lead into Spider-Man 4 with Peter and Harry battling Venom.
Sock-Man
11-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Ratatouille would have to be my most over-rated film, hands-down. Sure, it was a good movie, but had the name Pixar not been slapped across the poster, nobody would be hailing it nearly as much as they are. I thought the premise was good, but he "by chance" served Ratatouille to that Ego chef for dinner, which happened to remind him of his childhood, which suddenly made him happy and agree with 2000 rats serving his meal? Kind of lame IMO. Not nearly as good as Pixar's past features, 'Toy Story' 'Incredibles' or, my favorite, 'Finding Nemo'. Still a good flick, just EXTREMELY overrated.
I'd highly disagree with that. While Ratatouille was a tad predictable, I can't help but feel that comes with the pixar package. All their movies have been predictable to a degree. It doesn't take away from the charm. And it was really full of charm.
And your main point of criticism there, I personally thought was one of, if not the best scene in the movie, even if there is a bit of dubious coincidence there. I thought that brief flashback scene was really powerfully done. I was impressed with how within a few seconds, a scarcely seen 'bad guy' character who is little more than an ominous background presence from the beginning, was suddenly injected with a backstory and a touching depth at the last moment.
And the moment the flashback cuts back in silence to his shocked face, it seemed to me like Pixar connected with the audience in a way they haven't before, by using a common shared memory that allows anyone at that moment to see themselves in little Ego's shoes and in doing so not only surprising themselves in finding that they suddenly empathise with the character but also feeling somewhat enlightened and moved themselves.
At least that's the way I saw it.
And I agree with 300 being massively overrated.
And Spider-Man 3 also, though I see that more as most disappointing than most overrated since it doesn't get that much praise anyway.
DeadFlagBlues
11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
300, Transformers, and Spider-Man 3. All very overrated.
King_of_Skid_Row
11-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Transformers is definitely the most overrated film of the year. I mean, it was a good film but some make it out to be the movie to end all movies.
Ratatouille is the second most overrated film. It's a nice film but it's nothing we haven't seen before in terms of CGI movie plots.
xizor
11-08-2007, 08:41 PM
Weird seeing everyone say Transformers was overrated cause if I remember correctly everyone agreed the story wasn't great, there wasn't need for some characters, and overall it was just a good summer popcorn flick, I think some of you don't quite grasp what Overrated means.
And just because a commercial says 4 out of 5 stars or names off 3 no name magazines or pop culturized ones doesn't mean overrated. Almost every movie gets some kind of label now-a-days.
Cheekdilly
11-08-2007, 09:02 PM
300. Decent film, not the epic that everyone makes it out to be.
JBond
11-08-2007, 09:17 PM
And your main point of criticism there, I personally thought was one of, if not the best scene in the movie, even if there is a bit of dubious coincidence there. I thought that brief flashback scene was really powerfully done. I was impressed with how within a few seconds, a scarcely seen 'bad guy' character who is little more than an ominous background presence from the beginning, was suddenly injected with a backstory and a touching depth at the last moment.
And the moment the flashback cuts back in silence to his shocked face, it seemed to me like Pixar connected with the audience in a way they haven't before, by using a common shared memory that allows anyone at that moment to see themselves in little Ego's shoes and in doing so not only surprising themselves in finding that they suddenly empathise with the character but also feeling somewhat enlightened and moved themselves.
At least that's the way I saw it.
Well put, it was MY favorite scene. And I don't see what was coincendental about it, he wasn't eating ratatouille in the flashback. It was just real good.
rosncranz
11-08-2007, 09:45 PM
I hate threads about something being overrated, all it is is a smart sounding way to say your opinion is more accurate than the majority's. The term gets tossed around way way way too much.
That being said, the one film that I saw this year that most people loved and I thought was entirely average was 300.
You have no idea how happy it makes me to see many people on here saying the same thing about that film. You guys are great lol
NEo881
11-08-2007, 10:13 PM
yeah spiderman 3 was way over hyped although i still need to see it a second time got it coming on blu ray from netflix to see it agian be4 i get a second opinon bout it
NEo881
11-08-2007, 10:14 PM
and from what i heard Saw IV was a letdown as well
JBond
11-08-2007, 10:16 PM
I hate threads about something being overrated, all it is is a smart sounding way to say your opinion is more accurate than the majority's. The term gets tossed around way way way too much.
Agreed. I like discussing underrated movies a lot more. The word has more meaning.
General Disdain
11-08-2007, 10:25 PM
I thought Knocked Up was a huge letdown.
Shmoil
11-08-2007, 11:22 PM
300. It was visually great. Eye candy, but there was zero substance. What surprises me is that people who are usually against films like that embraced 300. There was just no depth, when there could have been a ton. What a disappointment.
moviebuff801
11-09-2007, 10:50 AM
300. It was visually great. Eye candy, but there was zero substance. What surprises me is that people who are usually against films like that embraced 300. There was just no depth, when there could have been a ton. What a disappointment.
My opinion exactly. Also, Knocked Up wasn't really that funny.
Ewok Droppings
11-09-2007, 11:19 AM
Saw IV
Pirates 3 (total letdown)
Where's my elephant?
11-09-2007, 11:26 AM
Live Free Or Die Hard
Eastern Promises - Not quite up to classic early Cronenberg.
Doomsday
11-09-2007, 01:05 PM
I kiiinda agree with Spider-Man 3 and Pirates 3. The thing is, yeah they were over hyped and had lots of publicity, but for the most part hardly anyone liked either. I haven't met anyone who loved either of them. Over hyped, yeah, but I dunno about over rated.
King_of_Skid_Row
11-09-2007, 01:39 PM
^Yeah, they aren't overrated. Transformers and 300 are overrated. Both are good films but not movie masterpieces that everyone makes them out to be. I mean some people make Transformers and 300 out to be like Lawrence of Arabia or Ben Hur.
Citizen Kane
11-09-2007, 01:42 PM
Transformers is completely overrated, I thought it was kind of boring.
Carnage Escobar
11-09-2007, 03:08 PM
Yeah, as much as I hate to say it, 300 and Transformers are a bit overrated. Both were very entertaining films and the movie-going experience made it that much better. But in the end, they're just.............good.
hammerhedd11
11-09-2007, 04:19 PM
Transformers
Pirates 3
prizm
11-09-2007, 05:10 PM
superbad
not as funny or clever as it thought it was
boydston_14
11-09-2007, 06:39 PM
300
Pirates 3
masha lover
11-09-2007, 07:12 PM
ratatoulie - flat and cliched. does not come close to the originality and freshness of Incredibles.
300 - zero story and character development. should not caled a movie, more like a play.
chaotic
11-09-2007, 07:41 PM
If anything, Pirates 3 is underrated.
King_of_Skid_Row
11-09-2007, 09:42 PM
^Yep. It is underrated but it was still a good film. Nothing grand though.
Ratatouille, however, proves that if you slap Pixar's name on a CGI movie it will be an instant hit no matter how cliched and flat it is. In fact, I think TMNT would've been a critical success if Pixar's name was on it.
quiksilver022
11-09-2007, 09:52 PM
I don't think Spiderman 3 was over-hyped. I think the general consesus for that one was mediocre at best.
quiksilver022
11-09-2007, 09:53 PM
If anything, Pirates 3 is underrated.
I have to agree on this one, actually. As much as I tend to despise hype around uber-blockbusters, it was a severely misunderstood film. You need to pay close attention to dialogue and be familiar with the past films, which I think alot of people weren't.
King_of_Skid_Row
11-09-2007, 10:35 PM
I kind of agree. The problem is, most people don't want to think or try to understand a fantasy film with a complexed plot. Overall, the film was good but not great. It was like Transformers. Good but not cinematic masterpiece.
hammerhedd11
11-09-2007, 10:44 PM
300 - zero story and character development. should not caled a movie, more like a play.
How does having no story and no character development make it a play? :confused:
And how did 300 not have a story?
moviebuff801
11-09-2007, 10:50 PM
I have to agree on this one, actually. As much as I tend to despise hype around uber-blockbusters, it was a severely misunderstood film. You need to pay close attention to dialogue and be familiar with the past films, which I think alot of people weren't.
That's precisely why I loved it so much. You actually had to pay attention in order to fully comprehend most of the elements, something I'm always pleased to see in an action film.
King_of_Skid_Row
11-09-2007, 10:53 PM
300's problem I think was that it trying too hard to be hardcore and stylish. The slow mo was WAY over done. Every fight and every movement was a slow mo shot. It got tiring after a while. Good film but far from perfect.
Shmoil
11-11-2007, 01:07 AM
How does having no story and no character development make it a play? :confused:
And how did 300 not have a story?
I don't get the play quote, but as for the story, I think he meant that there was no story development. And I agree. At the very beginning we are presented with the conflict, and that conflict is never built upon or made interesting, it just is exactly what it is. Which could be a really interesting way to build a movie, if the characters are good. But there aren't any interesting characters. The slo-mo is overused, the characters are as flat as they could be, and the movie just seems silly at times. Like with the head flying through the air in slow-mo. Cool for a half a second, it's dragged on waaaayyy past the point of being interesting and becomes silly.
Anyway, I actually liked Spider-Man 3. I thought it was really really overhyped, and was a little disappointed at first, but then I realized that my disappointment was just that it didn't live up to the hype, and I liked it. I also think it was hyped the other way, though, too. It seemed to me that people would say that hated it just because they thought everyone else was saying they hated it. It had positive overhype before it came out, and negative overhype after it came out. It was a fine movie, just not the masterpiece people were expecting, and not the bomb that everyone said it was.
carnage4u
11-11-2007, 07:54 AM
ratatoulie -- suck it jbond / j/k
rosncranz
11-11-2007, 01:42 PM
I don't get the play quote, but as for the story, I think he meant that there was no story development. And I agree. At the very beginning we are presented with the conflict, and that conflict is never built upon or made interesting, it just is exactly what it is. Which could be a really interesting way to build a movie, if the characters are good. But there aren't any interesting characters. The slo-mo is overused, the characters are as flat as they could be, and the movie just seems silly at times. Like with the head flying through the air in slow-mo. Cool for a half a second, it's dragged on waaaayyy past the point of being interesting and becomes silly.
Anyway, I actually liked Spider-Man 3. I thought it was really really overhyped, and was a little disappointed at first, but then I realized that my disappointment was just that it didn't live up to the hype, and I liked it. I also think it was hyped the other way, though, too. It seemed to me that people would say that hated it just because they thought everyone else was saying they hated it. It had positive overhype before it came out, and negative overhype after it came out. It was a fine movie, just not the masterpiece people were expecting, and not the bomb that everyone said it was.
No, it was just bad lol. Everything having to do with Venom, including the symbiot suit was really bad. I enjoyed most of the other stuff though. Also it just felt like Toby, Raimi, and Dunst did not want to be doing it.
Knerys
11-11-2007, 01:54 PM
300 is not Gladitor. It is not Troy. It is not Lord of the Rings. It is 300. Call it an experiment in film making but I disagree with all of you. It was different. I like different, I like pushing the envelope. I liked what Snyder was trying to do. And I say he was quite sucessful in achieving it.
It was a slice of life. The story is simple (note: simple doesn't not mean bad!) and was set in place. Characters were already there, no need to develop them. Maybe it's better likened to a vignette. But for what it wanted to achieve, it was a good movie.
halo7
11-11-2007, 03:10 PM
300 is not Gladitor. It is not Troy. It is not Lord of the Rings. It is 300. Call it an experiment in film making but I disagree with all of you. It was different. I like different, I like pushing the envelope. I liked what Snyder was trying to do. And I say he was quite sucessful in achieving it.
It was a slice of life. The story is simple (note: simple doesn't not mean bad!) and was set in place. Characters were already there, no need to develop them. Maybe it's better likened to a vignette. But for what it wanted to achieve, it was a good movie.
I didn't even crave depth in the film, but it felt like there was depth and they accidentally cut it out and expected us not to notice. Like when that guys son dies, were we supposed to care at all? We had like one or two scenes where he spoke maybe twice. Why should we be so upset that he is dead? Don't get me wrong,I liked 300 but it didn't push any sort of boundary of violence or use any sort of revolutionary anything. Nothing experimental about it. Just a good action movie.
Sock-Man
11-11-2007, 04:00 PM
I think when Watchmen comes out lacking the necessary depth and with no "well it's about the action" to blag it's way out with, Snyder will be exposed as the mildly above average action-movie director he really is.
JBond
11-11-2007, 06:28 PM
ratatoulie -- suck it jbond / j/k
It's "Ratatouille", jerk-face!! ;)
dongarcia
11-12-2007, 09:52 AM
For the overrated movie was the Spider - Man 3 and Transformer, I both saw this movie and it was fantastic...
Scorpio82
11-12-2007, 10:52 AM
I'm picking PotC3 for most over-rated because even months after it's release, people are still trying to convince me it's good. Just like the Matrix Revolutions, it tangents off into what vaguely resembled more of a spiritual journey instead of an action flick. Only it had no subtext, and was weird and edgy for the sake of being weird and edgy.
Also, Kraken > Giant Crab Lady and Maelstrom, in my opinion. Watching the action in this one felt like a step backwards.
Sock-Man
11-12-2007, 11:18 AM
I can barely remember most of POTC3 now and that can't be a good thing.
moviebuff801
11-12-2007, 01:31 PM
I can barely remember most of POTC3 now and that can't be a good thing.
I happen to remember every bit of the film, although that could be because I've seen it a total of six times by now. Can't wait for the DVD in 3 weeks.
Doomsday
11-12-2007, 04:23 PM
I'm picking PotC3 for most over-rated because even months after it's release, people are still trying to convince me it's good.
I think most of the people who enjoyed it just enjoy the franchise as a whole. My ex for instance just loves Johnny Depp in general (which is only one of the reasons we broke up ;)) so she didn't really buy all my criticism of the third film, which was a lot of criticism might I add. I guess if you really stretch your imagination and lower your standards, you can be entertained by Pirates 3, but if you're looking for a solid wholesome movie, I really can't find much to defend.
Can't wait for the DVD in 3 weeks.
I think most of us can. ;)
moviefan2
11-12-2007, 05:57 PM
My nomination is Amercian Gangster. It could have been great, but it was okay.
Catechumen
11-12-2007, 05:58 PM
ratatoulie - flat and cliched. does not come close to the originality and freshness of Incredibles.
300 - zero story and character development. should not caled a movie, more like a play.
So plays don't have a story or character development??
Scorpio82
11-12-2007, 06:31 PM
I guess if you really stretch your imagination and lower your standards, you can be entertained by Pirates 3, but if you're looking for a solid wholesome movie, I really can't find much to defend.
Heh. I lower my standards often enough. Half the time, I don't have any. :)
What I do have is a lot of imagination, though, and for me, that's where POTC3 fell short. It was in their intention to bring different aspects of pirate mythology into the story, but they didn't push it as far as they could have. In the end, a lot of it just felt slapped on. I'd chalk it up to a rushed script and a tight budget.
Doomsday
11-12-2007, 10:21 PM
And speaking of imagination, I dunno if it's gonna be clear if I explain it over the internet, but amI the only one who noticed that Johnny Depp reaaaally tried hard to be funny. He wasn't funny, he wasn't serious, he tried to be funny, which is like the lowest rung of funny, even falling below unfunny. Watching people try hard to be funny can be so painful, because people think "wow, I'm sure glad it's not me up there spewing that crap." He was pretty funny in the first one, but it just got so so old.
"What are you doin?"
"What ARE you doing"
"What AAAARE you doing?"
Kill me.
NEo881
11-12-2007, 11:06 PM
Actaully im taking back my spiderman 3 statement after watching it a second time i enjoyed it alot more than i did the first time i still think the whole part were peter was dancing down the street was kinda ridiculus and not needed for i noticed that the dance bar scene was more better than the first time i saw it and how it conectied with him starting to realize the suit was taking over him
the elmo zombie
11-13-2007, 12:22 AM
spider-man 3 is unwatchable on dvd. i thought it was OK in theaters, but there is nothing at all to get new from the dvd. i ended up skipping to the venom part. totally overrated
I think I'm gonna have to side with Transformers also. I enjoyed it upon first viewing but after second plus viewings did I notice the flaws and the poor acting etc. Jon Voight while a great actor in his own right looked like an idiot in places and that Aussie chick's accent was plain annoying. And don't get me started on Megan Fox. :rolleyes:
Still there were many pluses including Peter Cullen's return to Prime and Shia did a brilliant job in the leading role. Having just watched Transformers: Beginnings and listening to Frank Welker's Megatron still had me wishing he were in the movie. :(
Sorry Bay but my score has been reduced to a 7/10.
Daniel
11-13-2007, 01:38 AM
300. After three views I vow never to watch again.
I disagree with SM3 and POTC 3 being overrated ... the majority seemed to agree they both kind of sucked.
I'll chime in with Knocked Up and throw 3:10 to Yuma into the mix. I'm sorry, I hated the ending.
Daniel
11-13-2007, 01:39 AM
300. After three views I vow never to watch again.
I disagree with SM3 and POTC 3 being overrated ... the majority seemed to agree they both kind of sucked.
I'll chime in with Knocked Up and American Gangster. I'll throw 3:10 to Yuma into the mix. I'm sorry, I hated the ending.
DeadFlagBlues
11-13-2007, 06:37 AM
300. After three views I vow never to watch again.
I disagree with SM3 and POTC 3 being overrated ... the majority seemed to agree they both kind of sucked.
I'll chime in with Knocked Up and American Gangster. I'll throw 3:10 to Yuma into the mix. I'm sorry, I hated the ending.
I wasn't too fond of 3:10 to Yuma, either. So you're not alone.
masha lover
11-13-2007, 07:42 PM
How does having no story and no character development make it a play? :confused:
And how did 300 not have a story?
how did you come to that conclusion einstein? where did i say having no story make it a play? people standing around reciting rhetoric make it a play.
as for not having a story...go ahead & enlighten us with wtf story did 300 have?
the narrator and leonidis having to repeat themsselves over n over throughout the film about spartans being warriors and bred to fight + endless repetitive fight scenes? you call that a story buckwheat?
Alright alright settle down with the name calling before you get yourself banned mate.
Catechumen
11-14-2007, 01:22 AM
how did you come to that conclusion einstein? where did i say having no story make it a play? people standing around reciting rhetoric make it a play.
as for not having a story...go ahead & enlighten us with wtf story did 300 have?
the narrator and leonidis having to repeat themsselves over n over throughout the film about spartans being warriors and bred to fight + endless repetitive fight scenes? you call that a story buckwheat?
Buckwheat? Damn...this guy's good with clever insults...;)
Doomsday
11-14-2007, 10:40 AM
I would ban him, but we took "buckwheat" off the list of offensive terms and phrases back in 1897.
iv3rdawG
11-14-2007, 05:37 PM
*edit*
Catechumen
11-14-2007, 06:01 PM
I would ban him, but we took "buckwheat" off the list of offensive terms and phrases back in 1897.
:lol: :rolleyes:
MasterChief117
11-15-2007, 06:47 PM
transformers is the most overrated without a doubt.
Highly Disagree but i guess thats what happens when you are a twin of Dracula!
Gonna go with Underdog.
quiksilver022
11-15-2007, 09:00 PM
And speaking of imagination, I dunno if it's gonna be clear if I explain it over the internet, but amI the only one who noticed that Johnny Depp reaaaally tried hard to be funny. He wasn't funny, he wasn't serious, he tried to be funny, which is like the lowest rung of funny, even falling below unfunny. Watching people try hard to be funny can be so painful, because people think "wow, I'm sure glad it's not me up there spewing that crap." He was pretty funny in the first one, but it just got so so old.
"What are you doin?"
"What ARE you doing"
"What AAAARE you doing?"
Kill me.
I know exactly what you're trying to say. As much as I love the 'Pirates' movies, I felt he was pulling a Jim Carrey and overstaying his welcome sometimes.
masha lover
11-16-2007, 04:29 PM
I know exactly what you're trying to say. As much as I love the 'Pirates' movies, I felt he was pulling a Jim Carrey and overstaying his welcome sometimes.
i would say this is mostly disney's fault for trying to milk the hell of the francise, the writers for giving him crappy material, and the other half depp's fault for signing on for the sequels when he knew they were mediocre at best from the script he got.
I mean some people make Transformers and 300 out to be like Lawrence of Arabia or Ben Hur.
I hope not. Didn't see Ben Hur but LOA was boring.
Scorpio82
11-17-2007, 12:57 AM
i would say this is mostly disney's fault for trying to milk the hell of the francise, the writers for giving him crappy material, and the other half depp's fault for signing on for the sequels when he knew they were mediocre at best from the script he got.
It also doesn't help that Disney swallowed their own hype and got some sort of ego-boost over Jack Sparrow's creation. They've been quoted as saying they compare him to Mickey Mouse in terms of being a Disney icon, but it just ain't gonna happen.
rosncranz
11-17-2007, 01:24 AM
I hope not. Didn't see Ben Hur but LOA was boring.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight
Catechumen
11-17-2007, 06:26 AM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight
Well, not everyone enjoys that type of movie!
dongarcia
11-17-2007, 09:55 AM
I think it was 300...Ahu! Ahu!
rosncranz
11-17-2007, 12:42 PM
Well, not everyone enjoys that type of movie!
I know, I was just being a smart ass...but Lawrence of Arabia is IMO one of the least boring of those classics.
melling
11-25-2007, 04:34 PM
I dont even have to think about this one, Transformers without a doubt.
Doomsday
11-25-2007, 04:55 PM
Anyone who finds LOA boring can just message me so I can immediately put him on the Banned list.
hammerhedd11
11-28-2007, 05:35 PM
how did you come to that conclusion einstein? where did i say having no story make it a play? people standing around reciting rhetoric make it a play.
as for not having a story...go ahead & enlighten us with wtf story did 300 have?
the narrator and leonidis having to repeat themsselves over n over throughout the film about spartans being warriors and bred to fight + endless repetitive fight scenes? you call that a story buckwheat?
Are you serious? Here let me quote you.
300 - zero story and character development. should not caled a movie, more like a play.
Ummm. no character development. It shouldn't be called a movie but a play. Therefore, it makes it seem like you think plays have no character development. How could I infer through that rape of the English language that standing around reciting lines makes it a play in your warped mind? Have you actually gone out and seen a play?
Oh and for the story? Persians are taking over and the Spartans try to stop them. Yeah, it's not a complex story. So, what? Still has one.
BTW I would've had a civilized response had you not called me buckwheat. That's just fighting dirty...:rolleyes:
Dirty fighting the name calling certainly is, yes.
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