Halloween (2007) Review Thread

[WuTical]

SPOILERS ARE IN MY REVIEW...YOU'VE BEEN WARNED


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I loved this movie. Damn near perfect to me. Young Micheal was great and beyond creepy. The scene with him during the opening credits was great. It set off the movie very well. This movie also helps you explain why Micheal is the way he is. It kinda makes you feel bad for what happens him in the last scene.
I didn't really like how Laurie was written for. Just really not what Jamie Lee Curtis was in the 1st but I guess Rob just wanted it to be different.
I guess i might like her character better once I see the movie a couple more times.

Anyway, if you liked any of the other Micheal movies, you will def. appreciate this one.

[Daniel]

What would you rate it out of 10?

[Ewok Droppings]

I'm not quite sure how I feel about Rob Zombie's movies in general... I used to like Halloween when I was younger, but it got so ridiculous when MM finally got decapitated only to come back again with a cheesy explanation of someone else actually being decapitated wearing his mask, etc. Just got so dumb. Maybe a reboot of the system will be a good idea.

[Where's my elephant?]

^I know. Besides, it broke the cardinal rule:YOU DON'T KILL OFF JAMIE LEE CURTIS, DAMNIT! :mad:

[Dracula]

I didn't like House of 1000 Corpses very much, like The Devil's Rejects a lot. I'm not sure about this one, a remake of Halloween is completely un-needed, and the trailer basicly makes this look like a scene for scene reshoot.

[Ramplate]

Looks like more of how Michael came to be - then a reshoot, from the clips I've seen.
That didn't work with the latest Texas Chainsaw gang - you shouldn't show too much of how someone got that way. Makes them less monsterish IMO

[FilmJerk]

might give this a shot after Death Sentence

[Ewok Droppings]

Soooo.... why would you start a thread with a poll and not even vote in it?

[Fanible]

Looks like more of how Michael came to be - then a reshoot, from the clips I've seen.
That didn't work with the latest Texas Chainsaw gang - you shouldn't show too much of how someone got that way. Makes them less monsterish IMO

That's basically the precise reason on why I really didn't like "Hannibal Rising".

I haven't been the biggest Michael Myers fan in the world though.
I do think this looks interesting, but I may wait till DVD.

[oscar winner]

I am looking forward to seeing the re-make of Halloween. I saw the original again a few days ago and it is showing it's age.

The original is no longer scary, I hope the re-make is good. From what I have seen of the re-make, it looks pretty good.

[WuTical]

the trailer basicly makes this look like a scene for scene reshoot.
this movie is nothing like the 1st one at all

i mean, there is like the whole sheet over Micheal thing but that is basically all

[ddel54]

I don't know if anyone here knows but the movie is already Online on certain websites

[Ramplate]

That's basically the precise reason on why I really didn't like "Hannibal Rising".

I haven't been the biggest Michael Myers fan in the world though.
I do think this looks interesting, but I may wait till DVD.

Yeah Hannibal Rising was a let down for sure. Made him look like some kind of sick hero

[Alien]

I'm not quite sure how I feel about Rob Zombie's movies in general... I used to like Halloween when I was younger, but it got so ridiculous when MM finally got decapitated only to come back again with a cheesy explanation of someone else actually being decapitated wearing his mask, etc. Just got so dumb. Maybe a reboot of the system will be a good idea.
Yeah... Why did he feel it was needed to give his mask to the other guy? Can he see the future? :rolleyes:


But I think the new one looks kinda cool, I might give it a go if I get time or I'll rent it when it comes out.

[WuTical]

I don't know if anyone here knows but the movie is already Online on certain websites

it's a cut from May...the theater version is going to be a lot different

[halo7]

it's a cut from May...the theater version is going to be a lot different

I actually heard the only difference is that one scene was reshot.

[ddel54]

it's a cut from May...the theater version is going to be a lot different

You know I was telling one of my friends that this movie seems to be different from a lot of the trailers and clips that they have shown so far and if this isn't the one in theaters then good cause It wasn't all that great.

I guess I won't vote till I actually go to the theater and see it

[Ewok Droppings]

I think Micheal Myers will explode in outer space, only to return in a sequel saying that it was really an illusion and that he didn't really die because for some reason, he's immortal.

[ddel54]

The movie that is floating around on the net has 6 less death sceans and different ending which i did not like it one bit

[Tolkien]

So of all these posts, has anyone actually seen it yet?

I mean, other then WuTical who hasn't even voted yet.

[FilmJerk]

whats the twist these tv spots keep talking about?

[Matrix_Fan]

I hope this twist is not "Micheal is Laurie's brother", because everyone knows that one, so it's not much of a twist. So it would be stupid to advertise a cool twist and have it be the same one we all know.

[Necross]

second page of a review thread, no real review, awesome.

[Alien]

second page of a review thread, no real review, awesome.
Only 1 page...

[cg124]

seeing it friday

[SnoBorderZero]

Same. ^^

[Fanible]

It was so-so. Meh, kinda shrug worthy to me. Maybe big Michael Myers fans will get a kick out of it though. Although I did find the fact that we see his face (a lot) through out the film, that seemed to be rather odd. But maybe that's just me.

I really don't see how the film will appeal to anyone but perhaps Myers fans though. As a horror film, it isn't that impressive or cool in a gory way. Then as a psychological thriller, it runs along B-movie lines, with just semi-interesting development. Sadly, it's clear that this is what it's kinda trying to be: A psychological, horror thriller.

Scares are bare to nothing. A couple that might make a few unwary in the audience jump. There is nothing really disturbing that sets a new level either. While I didn't find the movie that great overall, Zombie's "The Devil's Rejects" still had plenty of uneasy scenery when it came to tormenting the victims. This film lacked any real, memorable gore, save for maybe just one scene in the beginning.

Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of killing in the film, but this is where it falls out of play for horror fans. There is little to no showing of real brutality. Most of the stabbings and deaths are out of frame or have really quick cuts, so you will have barely seen what even just happened. Mostly just cheesy sound effects.

As a psychological thriller, it offers nothing new. You get to see how Michael Myers was born into what he is... well, sort of. His family are hicks and all rather mean to one another. Actually, I found most of the people in this film to be really weird and crazy. At every turn, just about everyone was either stupid or lunatics, except maybe the bit of humanity the mother retained and that of the psychologist. Even the people later in the movie who are suppose to be more "normal" act like idiots. I really could have cared less whether or not Myers killed every single one of the kids, including his little sister, because they were all nitwits.

But back to the psychological aspect. It seems to be trying to cover this ground the most for what takes place as a huge chunk of film. Watching him develop into a crazy person. It's got the whole "he killed animals as a kid", so as to show where it's obviously leading for children who start doing these things. None of which is that interesting when you have stuff like the recent "Zodiac" and even other classics that do it a whole lot better. Zombie's directing is fine, but when it comes to him writing something that seemingly is trying to poke and tantalize your mind, this kinda falls flat on it's head.

Getting to the sound, it's a bit cheesy at times, as mentioned earlier. Typical crunching and squishing noises for the deaths and whatnot. That fills in a lot of void for like I said before, which was quick cuts and often times out of frame kills. The music is seemingly absent from most of the film, or unmemorable, save for the theme song which is kinda awkwardly, and randomly, thrown in at times where the Myers we know "appears", either as a kid psychologically, or when he finds his mask for the first time.

So what's the bottom line really? I found it to be mediocre. It was only slightly interesting at times. You have Malcolm McDowell there to offer a small bit of grace to something called "acting", most of which is lacking here, and is even a bit stretching for himself. And for those who really care, there's plenty of boobage here and there, but always predictably insures that if a boob is seen, death is near.

Like I said before, for at least Myers fans, you might find it interesting as it delves deeper into the psyche and history/birth of the iconic character. Or like Wutical said, if you have a great appreciation for the entire Halloween series, this is a perfectly fine addition to the long run. For others, general horror and psychological thriller fans, there's nothing interesting or new here to see. DVD rental at best.

A slightly generous 6 / 10. It wasn't completely bad, but I definitely don't plan to see it ever again.

[Ramplate]

sounds a bit like where I thought it might be

[halo7]

It was so-so. Meh, kinda shrug worthy to me. Maybe big Michael Myers fans will get a kick out of it though. Although I did find the fact that we see his face (a lot) through out the film, that seemed to be rather odd. But maybe that's just me.

I really don't see how the film will appeal to anyone but perhaps Myers fans though. As a horror film, it isn't that impressive or cool in a gory way. Then as a psychological thriller, it runs along B-movie lines, with just semi-interesting development. Sadly, it's clear that this is what it's kinda trying to be: A psychological, horror thriller.

Scares are bare to nothing. A couple that might make a few unwary in the audience jump. There is nothing really disturbing that sets a new level either. While I didn't find the movie that great overall, Zombie's "The Devil's Rejects" still had plenty of uneasy scenery when it came to tormenting the victims. This film lacked any real, memorable gore, save for maybe just one scene in the beginning.

Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of killing in the film, but this is where it falls out of play for horror fans. There is little to no showing of real brutality. Most of the stabbings and deaths are out of frame or have really quick cuts, so you will have barely seen what even just happened. Mostly just cheesy sound effects.

As a psychological thriller, it offers nothing new. You get to see how Michael Myers was born into what he is... well, sort of. His family are hicks and all rather mean to one another. Actually, I found most of the people in this film to be really weird and crazy. At every turn, just about everyone was either stupid or lunatics, except maybe the bit of humanity the mother retained and that of the psychologist. Even the people later in the movie who are suppose to be more "normal" act like idiots. I really could have cared less whether or not Myers killed every single one of the kids, including his little sister, because they were all nitwits.

But back to the psychological aspect. It seems to be trying to cover this ground the most for what takes place as a huge chunk of film. Watching him develop into a crazy person. It's got the whole "he killed animals as a kid", so as to show where it's obviously leading for children who start doing these things. None of which is that interesting when you have stuff like the recent "Zodiac" and even other classics that do it a whole lot better. Zombie's directing is fine, but when it comes to him writing something that seemingly is trying to poke and tantalize your mind, this kinda falls flat on it's head.

Getting to the sound, it's a bit cheesy at times, as mentioned earlier. Typical crunching and squishing noises for the deaths and whatnot. That fills in a lot of void for like I said before, which was quick cuts and often times out of frame kills. The music is seemingly absent from most of the film, or unmemorable, save for the theme song which is kinda awkwardly, and randomly, thrown in at times where the Myers we know "appears", either as a kid psychologically, or when he finds his mask for the first time.

So what's the bottom line really? I found it to be mediocre. It was only slightly interesting at times. You have Malcolm McDowell there to offer a small bit of grace to something called "acting", most of which is lacking here, and is even a bit stretching for himself. And for those who really care, there's plenty of boobage here and there, but always predictably insures that if a boob is seen, death is near.

Like I said before, for at least Myers fans, you might find it interesting as it delves deeper into the psyche and history/birth of the iconic character. Or like Wutical said, if you have a great appreciation for the entire Halloween series, this is a perfectly fine addition to the long run. For others, general horror and psychological thriller fans, there's nothing interesting or new here to see. DVD rental at best.

A slightly generous 6 / 10. It wasn't completely bad, but I definitely don't plan to see it ever again.

This is pretty much where I stand. Excluding Sherri Moon and Mcdowell(and maybe even the kid who played Michael) the acting was pretty atrocious. (Why did the girls imitate sex so much? Like they would just make fake sex noises for no reason, this happened at least 3 times in the movie, each time it was more painful to watch.) I will say this though, Zombie knows how to make good opening credits, Rejects were awesome, they are very effective here aswell.

[Necross]

Only 1 page...

on my computer, we're up to page 2.

[Fanible]

on my computer, we're up to page 2.

Well now we are. If it was back on page 1 for you, you must have your settings setup differently (20 I'm guessing). The forum default is 25 posts per page. ;)

I will say this though, Zombie knows how to make good opening credits, Rejects were awesome, they are very effective here aswell.

Yeah, I suppose that would have probably been worth mentioning. Did he actually direct the opening sequences though? I thought someone else was to handle those.

[Citizen Kane]

Having talked to halo and seen these credits myself (youtube), I think what he liked was how it cuts from the dialogue between Loomis and Michael's mom to the shot of him on "A Rob Zombie film" as the score cuts in, and then freeze frames on the title itself. While someone else probably handled the actual title design, I would imagine Zombie had a say in how they would appear relative to the film itself i.e. how his credit would be over the shot of young Michael, how there would be a freeze frame, etc.

As a fan of The Devil's Rejects, I was hoping Rob Zombie would surprise us all and make a great film, but it looks like that's not the case. I'll probably rent this.

[daniel9]

The movie that is floating around on the net has 6 less death sceans and different ending which i did not like it one bit

lol and the workprint also has a rape scene which wont be included with the version of the movie coming out today. soooo has anyone seen both versions yet and which do they like more?

[cg124]

I saw it today and I have to say that I enjoyed it a lot. Being a big fan of the original, I was not looking forward to this. To my suprise enjoyed much more than I thought I would. I know this is a short review,but I got to go to work, so overall I give it an 8/10

[Birdy]

Loved the original but wasn't feeling this one too much by the end. The second hour is to me where the Halloween remake takes place since the first hour is basically a prequel story. If I was watching this on dvd I would start where he breaks out of the hospital because everything before that was for me not needed. Zombie basically tried to make Myers more human rather than this blank slate that walked around killing for unknown reasons. I didn't need any explantion for why he decided to kill his family. Even though a real reason wasn't given. On Halloween night he's sitting in the kitchen eating candy and just suddenly decides to kill his family?! That didn't look right as it was happening on the screen. And after he killed Loomis I was waiting for the end to come. I know he has a f'ed up family but it didn't seem to make any since to me. I really think Zombie perfered to just make a prequel rather than a straight remake of the original. I kept an open mind walking in but when it was over I felt that the second hour was really what I came to see and not the first. The kills were decent but basically took place out of frame. Plus he used the shaky cam trick alot so some of the kills weren't totally in focus. And the ending played out for too long. I won't be buying this on dvd!

[Nilade]

I thought it was pretty good, although it was only the internet's working print I saw (shame on me!). I still plan on seeing it in the theater on Monday just to see the difference. The best part is still the music, which I can't really credit this version for. But I love origin stories and I love slasher flicks, so I liked this movie a lot. I hope one day they remake the first four Friday The 13 movies as well!!

[WuTical]

I saw the theater version today and it is quite different

it seems like they took out a lot of the stuff that made Micheal human in the theater version

the ending was better in the theater version but the escape is better in the workprint version (much much better)

[SouthsideX300]

I thought it was great, way better than i thought it would be. I think this is rob zombie's best work. I really feel he put his heart and his soul into this cause he knew he had a l oot to live up to in the original. I can honstly say this one pays homage to toriginal. I hope John Carpener see's this and shares his opinon on it. Cause i really feel it was a great movie from beginnig to end. I agree with the conan o'brien guy that the original music does randomly play, but besides that i really cant complain.

I wish at the end we could of had a shot of michael myers and it appears laurie went crazy. I thought Tyler Mane did a damn great job playing michael myers. Rob made him look ruthless and brutal thoughout the movie. Which i thought was awesome. I found myself really comparing this one to the original a lot but this one has so much more depth that it really is today's version of the classic.

Sheri moon zombie was great, really symathetic towards her situation. Laurie as a baby looked like a boy. Thought that was kind of odd. Danielle harris did good, loved her screaming. I plan on seeing it a couple of more times.

Just a great film all around. I rate it 8/10.

[krazy_marco74]

I probably won't get a chance to see in theaters. Should I wait for the DVD or watch the workprint version?

[Necross]

[QUOTE=Fanible;2307407]Well now we are. If it was back on page 1 for you, you must have your settings setup differently (20 I'm guessing). The forum default is 25 posts per page. ;)



[QUOTE]

What do ya know, it was set to 20 and still is. I only had the option of going up 10 posts, next one being 30. Odd.

[Dracula]

Halloween(8/31/2007)
When it was announced that Dimension films was planning a remake of John Carpenter’s 1979 slasher classic Halloween, I among many others just sighed at the folly of the enterprise. The original Halloween was one of the most influential horror movies of all time. The movie still holds up today; aside from some 70’s style clothing, hairstyles, and slang one would hardly realize it was old. The original is still watched annually by me every October 31st, I didn’t need a new Halloween and I was ready to miss the remake when it hit theaters. Suddenly though I was struck with a ray of hope, Rob Zombie was going to be sitting in the director’s chair. Rob is a director who has had a certain integrity and creativity during his horror movie career, I didn’t see why he would be making this if it were the debacle I had envisioned. Unfortunately, Rob Zombie has completely disappointed me, the remake of Halloween is just as bad as I feared.

The film begins in 1989 where a young Michael Myers (Daeg Faerch) is a troubled youth living is a deeply dysfunctional redneck family. His father (William Forsythe) is clearly abusive, and his loving mother (Played by Rob’s wife Sheri Moon Zombie) is a stripper. Michael finally snaps and murders a school bully, his father, his sister Judith (Hanna Hall), and her boyfriend. Following this quadruple homicide Michael is put into a maximum security psychiatric ward. Michael’s mother commits suicide, leaving behind a baby girl. Psychologist Samuel Loomis (Malcolm McDowell) tries to work on Michael for seventeen years without any success. The adult, and mysteriously buff, Myers (Tyler Mane) naturally escapes from prison seeking blood.

Rob Zombie (real name: Robert Cummings) began his entertainment career in music, as the lead singer of the groove metal band White Zombie. Zombie, who had been interested it kitch horror movies since a child, brought a sense of macabre theatricality to his music, especially in is live performances and music videos. In 2003 Zombie expanded his work into film directing with The House of 1000 Corpses, a movie that ultimately failed but had its moments. There was promise in Corpses, but I was completely unprepared for how good its sequel The Devil’s Rejects was. Rejects was a rollicking good time of violent kitch, not a true horror movie, but a violent tribute to everything Zombie seems to love. Rejects was actually a movie that owed a lot to Quentin Tarentino of all people. The film actually did the same thing Tarentino does: borrow from a whole lot of other movies the director loves and mix them interestingly into an original story. Rejects wasn’t for everyone, but I thought it was one of the most enjoyable movies of its genre in a long time.

The Devil’s Rejects is the one thing that convinced me this remake would be worthwhile. Zombie seemed to know what he was doing, the casting of Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis seemed perfect. I defended Zombie even when it was announced he was going to be revealing additional back-story about Myers, a move many (correctly) thought would de-mystify the character. Unfortunately my initial instincts about this project were correct, a remake of Halloween has proven to be completely unneeded. The project is also unsuited for Zombie, whose previous work was effective because it embraced a certain campy fun that is completely absent from the original Halloween.

The remake makes a futile attempt at telling the back story of Michael Myers. This is futile first because everything here actually was covered in the original, just in a much faster and far less boring way. Michael’s childhood murder for example, was taken care of during a five minute sedi-cam shot. Here it is covered by a twenty minute sequence, but what new does this twenty minute sequence accomplish? Well there are four victims instead of one, which helps the film’s blood quotient, but otherwise doesn’t change the Myers character one iota. Additionally it turns his family into a completely dysfunctional entity in a futile attempt to explain Myers behavior. But isn’t it more frightening for Meyer’s behavior to come out of ordinary circumstances? The original managed to avoid all this by writing off Myers as simply being the personification of evil, this not only moved the story along but also added a creepy aura to Myers that contributed far more to the fear the character evoked than his butcher knife. The remake is robbed of this aura and is completely slowed down by this new material. Also boring, is the extended period Myers spends in prison, which again, slows down the story and takes away Myers aura. The movie does get a little better once we get to the contemporary story, if only because it follows the original’s story more closely.

The casting of both the young and the old Michael Myers are poor. Daeg Faerch is boring and one note as the young Michael Myers, his line readings are poor and his “spooky stare” needs work. I don’t want to be too hard on a ten year old actor, but we’ve seen dozens of better “creepy kids” throughout horror movie history. Tyler Mane as the adult Michael Myers is even more problematic. Many would assume that the role of a masked killer could be played by anyone regardless of talent, and that’s true, the original Myers was basically played by an unpaid intern and has been played by various stuntmen ever since. Mane isn’t to blame for his presence, he’s simply miscast, this former pro-wrestler is a huge behemoth who more closely resembles Leatherface from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series than the Michael Myers we all know and love. This Myers is more of a brute force than the original who seemed to have a more stealth oriented approach to things.

For what it’s worth, the rest of the cast isn’t half bad. I rather like the girls cast as Laurie (Scout Taylor-Compton) and her friends Annie (Danielle Harris) and Lynda (Kristina Klebe), in fact I think they are about the only improvement here over the original. It may seem like heresy but I don’t really think Jamie Lee Curtis was all that good in the original, she gives a lot of bad line deliveries and despite only being 21 at the time, didn’t look at all like a teenager. The new trio of friends however did feel like a real set of teenage girls. Some may find the way these teens act and talk annoying, but it really is authentic way modern teenage girls act and talk. Malcolm McDowell felt like perfect casting as the crazy old man Dr. Sam Loomis, his performance however is a bit of a disappointment. McDowell is all right, but he doesn’t live up to Donald Plesence’s take on the character in the original. The rest of the cast is made up of cameos by the cast of The Devil’s Rejects each of whom brings brief, fun, presences in their scenes.

The violence in the original Halloween is surprisingly restrained in retrospect. It’s R-rated stuff, but it was also mostly bloodless. Knowing Rob Zombie’s body of work I knew that wasn’t what we were in for here. This movie is incredibly bloody and violent; this alone isn’t a problem, I am a fan of The Devil’s Rejects after all, but it doesn’t work at all here. Those seeking the kind of over the top, almost fun gore seen in 80’s slasher films like Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street provided will be disappointed. The violence in here is of an extremely brutal nature. The first kill for instance involves a young Myers beating another child severely with a log, pausing to listen to the boy plead for his life, only to finish him off. There are twenty one more brutal killings to go after that, I wasn’t remotely scared or even put in a state of suspense by any of this, it was simply disturbing for the sake of being disturbing. It really wore me out by the end.

The movie is amazingly dark, in the sense of lighting that is. At least 80% of this movie must take place at night. My eyes began to strain by the end of the movie. Between this and the unrelenting violence I was quite relived to walk out of the theater into sunlight. The story amounts to nothing, the violence is needlessly sadistic, it fails completely to live up to the original, and it is also devoid of any suspense. With this disaster I have lost a lot of faith in Rob Zombie as a film maker. I’ve always felt he deserved better than to be lumped into the so-called “splat-pack”, but I’m beginning to think The Devil’s Rejects was a fluke. Remaking Halloween was a massive lapse in judgment from someone I once had a lot of respect for. Rob Zombie should have known better than to make it, I should have known better than to see it, and unless this movie ends up being the fluke of his career I may soon be turning in my “Rob Zombie apologist” card.
* out of four

[Sora Kahn]

Another example of why some franchises don't need reboots or remakes. Abrams might be the next to learn that.

[Matrix_Fan]

*MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD!*


Let's get this out of the way, I'm not the biggest fan of Rob Zombie. I despised House Of 1000 Corpses, and did not like The Devil's Rejects despite good camera work and music. The two films Zombie made were people yelling at each other for 2 hours, while senselessly killing people in horrible and gruesome fashion. Upon hearing about a remake for Halloween, I was like "Alright, cool, loved the original, along with Halloween II and H20, so, this could be good." Then when I heard about Zombie taking the helm, I was like "Crap. Not him! It's going to be yelling and swearing for 2 hours!" However, I still wanted to see the movie. I can't say it sucks, unless I see it, unless it looked truly terrible, which it didn't. So, I went in with little to no expectation, so ready to unleash hate upon the film, and in the end.......

I...................................liked this?

I seriously couldn't believe the words that I am typing. I liked this movie? How could this be? It had so many things going against it. How in god's name did I manage to like this movie? Well, sit back, and I'll tell you.

We open on Halloween day, where we focus on young Michael Myers, a creepy little boy who likes to kill animals, yet a good natured, sweet kid around his stripper mother and little baby sister Laurie. His step father however, is a crippled little bastard that yells and screams, and his sister is, for the lack of a better word, a whore. Poor, yet crazy, Michael is also bullied at school by the kid from Spy Kids. But on this Halloween, he isn't going to take **** from anyone, he kills Spy Kids boy with a piece of wood, slices his step dad's throat, bashes his sister's boyfriends' head in with a bat, and stabs his sister to death. The mother and baby are safe. Michael is then sent to a psycho ward where he is placed under the care of doctor Loomis, 15 years later, he realizes the boy is quite simply.....evil. So he decides to wash his hands of it and write a book. Naturally, Mikey escapes and decides to hunt down his sister Laurie and kill anyone who stands in his way.

While the beginning scared me with it's standard issue Rob Zombie dialouge, it got much, much better as it went along. The film worked best during the origin scenes, especially when it got the Psych ward. The acting was really good. Once Michael escapes, it becomes sort of a cliff notes version of the original movie with more nudity and violence. While I had a problem with the level of violence in House and Rejects, I was okay with it here. Since Halloween is essentially a slasher flick, I didn't have a problem with the level of violence. It wasn't as drawn out as Rejects, it was quick and brutal, like it should be.

Credit has to go to not only Zombie's cinematography and directing, but the superb work by Myers himself, Tyler Mane. This guy is friggin huge, and honestly scared the crap out of me during a few scenes. He is a big, menacing, violent bastard that will bust through a wall if it means getting to you. If that Friday The 13th remake comes into play later, I recommend Mane as Jason. The second half of the film, while a sped of version of the original, worked for me, lots of scenes reminded me of the original film, and put a smile on my face on more than one occasion. The performances by the teenagers were pretty good, and didn't bug me at all. McDowell, who plays Loomis, does a great job filling Donald Pleasence's shoes, though I didn't quite like what was done with his character at the end of the film.

My biggest complaint is the few lines at the beginning, and the ultimate fate of Loomis. Yet, for the latter, if a sequel is ever made, I think they'll figure out a way to bring Loomis back, I mean, hell, Loomis got caught in an explosion in Halloween II, yet came back alive and kicking in Halloween 4. With Myers, I bet he'll be back.

So, Halloween ended up being a very pleasant surprise. I walked out of the theater happy, and that's a good thing.

Grade: 8.5/10

[cg124]

*MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD!*


Let's get this out of the way, I'm not the biggest fan of Rob Zombie. I despised House Of 1000 Corpses, and did not like The Devil's Rejects despite good camera work and music. The two films Zombie made were people yelling at each other for 2 hours, while senselessly killing people in horrible and gruesome fashion. Upon hearing about a remake for Halloween, I was like "Alright, cool, loved the original, along with Halloween II and H20, so, this could be good." Then when I heard about Zombie taking the helm, I was like "Crap. Not him! It's going to be yelling and swearing for 2 hours!" However, I still wanted to see the movie. I can't say it sucks, unless I see it, unless it looked truly terrible, which it didn't. So, I went in with little to no expectation, so ready to unleash hate upon the film, and in the end.......

I...................................liked this?

I seriously couldn't believe the words that I am typing. I liked this movie? How could this be? It had so many things going against it. How in god's name did I manage to like this movie? Well, sit back, and I'll tell you.

We open on Halloween day, where we focus on young Michael Myers, a creepy little boy who likes to kill animals, yet a good natured, sweet kid around his stripper mother and little baby sister Laurie. His step father however, is a crippled little bastard that yells and screams, and his sister is, for the lack of a better word, a whore. Poor, yet crazy, Michael is also bullied at school by the kid from Spy Kids. But on this Halloween, he isn't going to take **** from anyone, he kills Spy Kids boy with a piece of wood, slices his step dad's throat, bashes his sister's boyfriends' head in with a bat, and stabs his sister to death. The mother and baby are safe. Michael is then sent to a psycho ward where he is placed under the care of doctor Loomis, 15 years later, he realizes the boy is quite simply.....evil. So he decides to wash his hands of it and write a book. Naturally, Mikey escapes and decides to hunt down his sister Laurie and kill anyone who stands in his way.

While the beginning scared me with it's standard issue Rob Zombie dialouge, it got much, much better as it went along. The film worked best during the origin scenes, especially when it got the Psych ward. The acting was really good. Once Michael escapes, it becomes sort of a cliff notes version of the original movie with more nudity and violence. While I had a problem with the level of violence in House and Rejects, I was okay with it here. Since Halloween is essentially a slasher flick, I didn't have a problem with the level of violence. It wasn't as drawn out as Rejects, it was quick and brutal, like it should be.

Credit has to go to not only Zombie's cinematography and directing, but the superb work by Myers himself, Tyler Mane. This guy is friggin huge, and honestly scared the crap out of me during a few scenes. He is a big, menacing, violent bastard that will bust through a wall if it means getting to you. If that Friday The 13th remake comes into play later, I recommend Mane as Jason. The second half of the film, while a sped of version of the original, worked for me, lots of scenes reminded me of the original film, and put a smile on my face on more than one occasion. The performances by the teenagers were pretty good, and didn't bug me at all. McDowell, who plays Loomis, does a great job filling Donald Pleasence's shoes, though I didn't quite like what was done with his character at the end of the film.

My biggest complaint is the few lines at the beginning, and the ultimate fate of Loomis. Yet, for the latter, if a sequel is ever made, I think they'll figure out a way to bring Loomis back, I mean, hell, Loomis got caught in an explosion in Halloween II, yet came back alive and kicking in Halloween 4. With Myers, I bet he'll be back.

So, Halloween ended up being a very pleasant surprise. I walked out of the theater happy, and that's a good thing.

Grade: 8.5/10

If there's a sequel I'd doubt zombie would direct it. That's why he ended it the way he did

[Tolkien]

If there's a sequel I'd doubt zombie would direct it. That's why he ended it the way he did

Ended it the way he did?

1.) We didn't see Lomis die. He could have just been crippled

2.) We didn't see WHERE she shot Michael. It happend fast

So I can see a sequel.

I'd just like to see a Rob Zombie sequel.

[Fanible]

What do ya know, it was set to 20 and still is. I only had the option of going up 10 posts, next one being 30. Odd.

There's an option for "Forum Default". If that's selected, it will be 25.

[Tolkien]

I wonder if they would put a one post per page option up. lmao ;)

[SouthsideX300]

Another example of why some franchises don't need reboots or remakes. Abrams might be the next to learn that.

whats he remaking?

[darthspielberg]

whats he remaking?

He's Rebooting Star Trek

[cg124]

Ended it the way he did?

1.) We didn't see Lomis die. He could have just been crippled

2.) We didn't see WHERE she shot Michael. It happend fast

So I can see a sequel.

I'd just like to see a Rob Zombie sequel.

Well I wasn't sure loomis died either,but I'm pretty sure Zombie wanted to make it obvious that michael dies just so there wouldn't be a sequel

That's just me though, you can intepet all you want

[Dracula]

Here's how they make the sequel

Note the cut that occured after Laurie was pushed over the balcony, we don't know how much time passed before she woke up. In that time Michael probably got up, put his mask on Dr. Loomis' body and put Laurie's uncontious body on top of it, before exiting stage left.

[halo7]

Well Zombie said himself he wasnt going to do a sequel. Dimension will probably do one though.

If anyone is interested in the workprint ending, Loomis lives and Michael is shot like 30 times by a bunch of cops.

[cg124]

Here's how they make the sequel

Note the cut that occured after Laurie was pushed over the balcony, we don't know how much time passed before she woke up. In that time Michael probably got up, put his mask on Dr. Loomis' body and put Laurie's uncontious body on top of it, before exiting stage left.

ahh that sounds like one of those things the producers said explaining how michael didn't die in H20 even though we see him get his head cut off

[WuTical]

Well Zombie said himself he wasnt going to do a sequel. Dimension will probably do one though.

well this made 11 million just on Friday

so yeah, they are def. in talks for a sequel

[SaltyDog]

well this made 11 million just on Friday

so yeah, they are def. in talks for a sequel

A sequel. I have read where there has already being seven sequels plus this current one and people still crave for more.....and we criticize Hollywood for not having any originality left as far as screenwriting goes. What does our movie going habits say about our interests and film choices when we continue to shovel out millions for such trite offerings.....no wonder they keep producing the same low level offerings....year after year....

[Ewok Droppings]

The thing that gets me about Rob Zombie movies is that his characters act so stupid and crazy. Sure MM's family was dysfunctional when he was young, but Zombie always has a way to make them over-the-top retarded. Maybe it's bad acting, maybe it's bad directing, maybe it's just stupid portrayal's of characters, but it detracts from the story looking at characters and thinking "gimme a break". Overall decent movie, but bad acting/characterization brought it down a notch.

7/10

[rosncranz]

Very interesting that the people that seem to like the remake are the ones that love the original and were very apprehensive about the remake. You can put me in that category as well.

The original is one of the greatest horror films ever made, not only that but it is practically hallowed ground so when I heard there was a remake coming I was not happy. Then I heard Rob Zombie was directing it, and while I think both of his other films add up to...well two bad films, I still thought he might be the man for the job simply because of his style. The trailers sucked, the script supposedly sucked, and the changes he was rumored to have made were no good. So I was back to being unhappy about the remake.

The movie was surprisingly good IMO. I enjoyed the sanitarium stuff the most, I thought some of the stuff with Michaels family was kind of unrealistic, the infamous "Love Hurts" montage was awful. The sanitarium stuff with Loomis and Michael was really good, the masks actually creeped me out.The stuff in present day i.e. the part that was actually a remake was the weakest part but still pretty good, though the deaths could have and should have been more interesting. And why does Michael carry every victim somewhere else? lol

I loved Tyler Mane as Michael, he was so hulking and a brilliant monster. I thought Sherri Moon was awful but got better as the film progressed. The actor who played young Michael was good, they didn't ask too much from him in the acting department...wise choice I thought.

I hated the major MAJOR lesbian undertones with Laurie and her friends though I am not surprised coming from Zombie. I should also say I hate how Zombie tried to make Michael out to be some tragic character. Come the third part, where he is wearing the mask and killing teens, you should no longer sympathize with him, he should be just a monster, but then Zombie trys to well pull a Zombie and make him tragic. Which was stupid IMO. And the sound effects with the deaths were awful.

Basically it was not as good as the original but it was different enough to be a good companion piece IMO. Aside from a few cheezy lines, and some bad acting from the supporting cast it was a good movie.

Oh also I only saw the work print and am aware of all the changes (most of which sound like they were for the better) except the end. How does the theatrical cut end?

Halloween-10/10
Halloween 2007-8/10

[Dracula]

Very interesting that the people that seem to like the remake are the ones that love the original and were very apprehensive about the remake. You can put me in that category as well.

The original is one of the greatest horror films ever made, not only that but it is practically hallowed ground so when I heard there was a remake coming I was not happy. Then I heard Rob Zombie was directing it, and while I think both of his other films add up to...well two bad films, I still thought he might be the man for the job simply because of his style. The trailers sucked, the script supposedly sucked, and the changes he was rumored to have made were no good. So I was back to being unhappy about the remake.

The movie was surprisingly good IMO. I enjoyed the sanitarium stuff the most, I thought some of the stuff with Michaels family was kind of unrealistic, the infamous "Love Hurts" montage was awful. The sanitarium stuff with Loomis and Michael was really good, the masks actually creeped me out.The stuff in present day i.e. the part that was actually a remake was the weakest part but still pretty good, though the deaths could have and should have been more interesting. And why does Michael carry every victim somewhere else? lol

I loved Tyler Mane as Michael, he was so hulking and a brilliant monster. I thought Sherri Moon was awful but got better as the film progressed. The actor who played young Michael was good, they didn't ask too much from him in the acting department...wise choice I thought.

I hated the major MAJOR lesbian undertones with Laurie and her friends though I am not surprised coming from Zombie. I should also say I hate how Zombie tried to make Michael out to be some tragic character. Come the third part, where he is wearing the mask and killing teens, you should no longer sympathize with him, he should be just a monster, but then Zombie trys to well pull a Zombie and make him tragic. Which was stupid IMO. And the sound effects with the deaths were awful.

Basically it was not as good as the original but it was different enough to be a good companion piece IMO. Aside from a few cheezy lines, and some bad acting from the supporting cast it was a good movie.

Oh also I only saw the work print and am aware of all the changes (most of which sound like they were for the better) except the end. How does the theatrical cut end?

Halloween-10/10
Halloween 2007-8/10

It sure sounds like you hated a lot of it than you acctually liked.

[Tell_All_Your_Friends]

i have a question about this movie. on imdb it says bill moseley played a character named zach "z-man" garret and i can't seem to remember who he is. can anyone refresh my memory?

[teewee1432]

i was dead set against this when it was first announced but I must say after seeing this tonight that I stand corrected this movie was actually good rob needs to keep making movies like this. 9/10

[the elmo zombie]

i have a question about this movie. on imdb it says bill moseley played a character named zach "z-man" garret and i can't seem to remember who he is. can anyone refresh my memory?


one of the guards at smiths grove that got killed.

[rosncranz]

It sure sounds like you hated a lot of it than you acctually liked.

Most of the things you highlighted were things that kind of bothered me but were in no way deal breakers. Really the only things that really got to me were the cheesy sound effects, Sherri Moon's acting, and trying to make Michael a tragic hero. The last part being the biggest problem. Still I enjoyed the rest so much that it still got an 8/10 for me...though I would say it is leaning more toward a 7.5/10. Maybe it's just because I am happy to see a real horror film, something that is all too rare these days.

[Tolkien]

i have a question about this movie. on imdb it says bill moseley played a character named zach "z-man" garret and i can't seem to remember who he is. can anyone refresh my memory?

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I think he was the guy that Orderly Ismael Cruz (aka My man Danny Trejo) took into Michael's cell with him to cuff him up. Remember he's the guy that told Trejo's character off about how just because he was new, he didn't have to respect Trejo's character at all. Then we went into Michael's cell and touched the mask, before calling Michael all kinds of names. I really wanted HIM to die, but they never showed him die. Instead they showed Michael kill off Trejo's character with the TV set, which was the ONLY character in which I did not think deserved to die.

[daniel9]

so which versionof the movie did u guys like more the workprint or the theatrical

[Tolkien]

Actually, I've never seen the workprint. I don't even know anyone who has.

[Ramplate]

Meh, the diologue really needed something - some of the actors didn't sound like they meant their lines.
I see nothing wrong with the off screen or out of sight killings - that is the original style.
I wouldn't go see it again.
6/10

[DeadFlagBlues]

I'm really not sure what Zombie was thinking. I agree with Ramplate that the dialogue really needed some work. Overall, the entire film needed an improvement. Not a single decent acting job. The end result was a less than mediocre attempt at recreating a masterpiece that didn't need recreating. Nearly every moment of the film was laugh worthy and couldn't really be taken seriously. I tried to atleast find something positive about the film, but really couldn't.

So I'll be generous: 4/10

[rosncranz]

I saw the work print and overall I liked the film, but it sounds like the theatrical is better.

Also that guard that was a huge jerk got his head crushed in the work print, but it unfortunately came with the rape scene which was not only done in poor taste but it was also really over the top.

[SouthsideX300]

Anyone have a link for the workprint version?

[Papa]

I'm seeing this today. I can't ****in' wait.

[Tolkien]

Anyone have a link for the workprint version?

That's the same thing I wanna know. I've been to multiple sites and even they have the theatrical versions only. I have yet to come across this so-called workprint version yet. I'd like to see it too, so I can judge the differences myself. Although, the board doesn't support PIRACY, so don't go posting links here.

[Dracula]

Anyone have a link for the workprint version?

I think it's against the board's rules to support piracy like that.

[FranklinTard]

took me 10 seconds to find the workprint, if necessary you can pm me, and i can send you in the right direction.

[rosncranz]

It is seriously easy to find it on the internet. Type what you want in google **hint hint***

[WuTical]

Possible Spoilers:




I think he was the guy that Orderly Ismael Cruz (aka My man Danny Trejo) took into Michael's cell with him to cuff him up. Remember he's the guy that told Trejo's character off about how just because he was new, he didn't have to respect Trejo's character at all. Then we went into Michael's cell and touched the mask, before calling Michael all kinds of names. I really wanted HIM to die, but they never showed him die. Instead they showed Michael kill off Trejo's character with the TV set, which was the ONLY character in which I did not think deserved to die.
:: spoilers for the workprint version::







in the workprint, Micheal's escape is 100% different

the other guy that was with Danny Trejo's character brings another guy into the building and they take this new patient who is a female and they take her to Micheal's room
they "offer" her to Micheal but he ignores them so then the 2 guards start raping her and then he kills the 2 guards and walks out of the place
he didn't kill Danny Trejo's character or none of the other people

things that were also different in the workprint:
the reason Micheal (as a kid) kills the nurse is cause the nurse tells him that the baby couldn't be be related to him cause the baby is too cute to be related to him

Dr Loomis gets a phone call after he does his presentation about Micheal escaping

there's also a scene with Dr Loomis being with the guy in charge of Smith Grove

When Micheal kills Laurie's step parents, they actually show Micheal walking up to the door and Laurie's stepdad sees him and startles (sp?) him...also, the scene is a lil bit longer when he is killing the stepmom

Micheal kills Linda's boyfriend in the van while he's getting a beer

the ending is after Micheal busts the cop window and drags her out, Dr Loomis tells him to let her go, it's isn't her fault...so he lets her go and then the cops shoot him Halloween 4 style and that was the end of the movie


In my opinion, i'm glad they changed the ending but they should of kept everything else in
to me, everything that made Micheal seem human, they took out (which sucked imo)

[carnage4u]

I found Halloween to be an enjoyable movie. I am a horror movie fan, and a slasher fan.

The original (classic) is in my opinion better movie, but that donest mean this movie is bad.


This movie went more for gore, that the original didn't need. Not over the top gore, but enough to be noticable.


I saw some complaints about the actor that played michael as an adult, and I have no such complete. I thought that "Michael" was well played (as well as someone that says nothing and just stabs people)


I didnt really get any classic michael kills moments, but still was fun.

I went expecting a slasher flick and got a slasher flick. I didnt find the backstory that long or bad in any way.

[rosncranz]

How does the theatrical cut end?

[Tolkien]

:: spoilers for the workprint version::







in the workprint, Micheal's escape is 100% different

the other guy that was with Danny Trejo's character brings another guy into the building and they take this new patient who is a female and they take her to Micheal's room
they "offer" her to Micheal but he ignores them so then the 2 guards start raping her and then he kills the 2 guards and walks out of the place
he didn't kill Danny Trejo's character or none of the other people

things that were also different in the workprint:
the reason Micheal (as a kid) kills the nurse is cause the nurse tells him that the baby couldn't be be related to him cause the baby is too cute to be related to him

Dr Loomis gets a phone call after he does his presentation about Micheal escaping

there's also a scene with Dr Loomis being with the guy in charge of Smith Grove

When Micheal kills Laurie's step parents, they actually show Micheal walking up to the door and Laurie's stepdad sees him and startles (sp?) him...also, the scene is a lil bit longer when he is killing the stepmom

Micheal kills Linda's boyfriend in the van while he's getting a beer

the ending is after Micheal busts the cop window and drags her out, Dr Loomis tells him to let her go, it's isn't her fault...so he lets her go and then the cops shoot him Halloween 4 style and that was the end of the movie


In my opinion, i'm glad they changed the ending but they should of kept everything else in
to me, everything that made Micheal seem human, they took out (which sucked imo)

What the f**k, man, did Zombie make two completely different movies?

That's completely different from the version that's in theaters right now.

[Tolkien]

How does the theatrical cut end?

Spoilers:








Loomis and Laurie are in the patrol car when Michael breaks the passenger window and pulls Laurie out. He starts carrying her away when Loomis steps in. He does the whole talking points thing about it not being her fault, and to let her go and whatnot, which Michael then does, only to grab Loomis and kill him (supposibly). Then he goes on a ten minute chase through the house with Laurie until she finally gets Loomis' gun and points it at him, to which he them charges her at full speed, sending the both of them smashing through the second story window and down to the grass below. It ends with Laurie waking up on top of Michael, grabbing the gun, sitting up and then in a quick paced scene, attempting to pull the trigger while at the same time, Michael's hand quickly grabs the barrel of the gun just as it fires off. It cuts away to her bodyshot as blood shoots everywhere, she starts screaming like nuts and boom... Credits.

[rosncranz]

Spoilers:











Loomis and Laurie are in the patrol car when Michael breaks the passenger window and pulls Laurie out. He starts carrying her away when Loomis steps in. He does the whole talking points thing about it not being her fault, and to let her go and whatnot, which Michael then does, only to grab Loomis and kill him (supposibly). Then he goes on a ten minute chase through the house with Laurie until she finally gets Loomis' gun and points it at him, to which he them charges her at full speed, sending the both of them smashing through the second story window and down to the grass below. It ends with Laurie waking up on top of Michael, grabbing the gun, sitting up and then in a quick paced scene, attempting to pull the trigger while at the same time, Michael's hand quickly grabs the barrel of the gun just as it fires off. It cuts away to her bodyshot as blood shoots everywhere, she starts screaming like nuts and boom... Credits.


MUCH better ending than the workprint...much much better.

[Dracula]

MUCH better ending than the workprint...much much better.

That's the thing about workprints, they're works in progress

[rosncranz]

That's the thing about workprints, they're works in progress


Yeah, I am well aware of that. Fortunately in this case it turned out better, which is not always the case.

[Ramplate]

Another thing that struck me is the lack of intensity that Malcolm McDowell gave the role of Loomis. I like him, but Donald Pleasance put the spark and intensity into Loomis that I seemed to miss watching this version.

And giving the family a disfunctional makeover I thought lessened the impact of Michael turning out the way he did - it's more intense given a "normal" family situation.

I also found the mask thing interesting but i doubt they would give him all the things needed to indulge in an obsessive hobby like that in a high security psych ward. I would think they'd want to derail that sort of obsessive behavior.
It's the type of thing that sereal killers would do in their private homes, and some make weird artwork in their prison cells - I just saw a thing on Manson where he makes things like yarn scorpions - but the guards confiscate them because they don't want them to end up on eBay.
I doubt someone would be able to decorate their cell in the ward like that.

[Tzarinna]

I need to see this soon.

[SouthsideX300]

It made 31 million this past weekend. A labor day weekend record. I plan on seeing it again tomorrow.

[Tolkien]

Wow, Halloween only cost $15mil. to make? I did not know that. That's pretty damn cheap for a film like that. Hell, and I thought it would have had a hard time making it's money back, lmao. It just made double that in it's first weekend. I keep forgetting about the cost of films not always being mega-budget, these days. Too many monster-budget films coming out.

[mjb]

Not bad of a remake or reimagining or whatever they call it now. I don't remember the oringinal, but I did see it. I do remember the oringinal not being this great masterpiece, so i don't get what all the hoopla is about from the die hard fans.

I enjoyed it for the slasher flick it was. it was just entertaining and nothing more. There were some problems, like the ending that I didn't to much care for, and Meyer's family when he was a kid was a lil over the top, but overall it's a solid enough film.

7/10

[Nekabyte]

I am a huge fan of the original Halloween, and all I could say when I had heard that this remake was going to happen was "oh no".

I am a bigger fan of Rob Zombies music than I am of his movies, and after seeing this atrocious remake of a classic horror film, i think Mr. Zombie should stick to music. I dont have time to go into what did(nothing) or didnt(everything) work, but one day I will

2/10 1 for Tyler Mane, 1 for Dee Wallace

[msmoonvicky]

eck, i didnt really enjoy this new version of halloween. it was okay to see how micheal myers began but to see him all grown up and huge is weird, it took away the scenes you saw before and just automatically made him a monster. i really should have counted the times the said **** because i swear thats what most of the movie was complied of. it was cool though to see danielle harris come back to the halloween movies but as one of laurie friends. i remember her from the fourth halloween movie where she was his niece or something.

[Agent Deadpool]

I saw this today and liked it alot. I loved the backstory given on him and the whole mask thing. Ending was kinda abrupt but still all in all a good flick

[SouthsideX300]

Saw again yesterday! I liked it even more after watching it a second time!

[SnoBorderZero]

Saw it last night, and it is probably one of the worst movies of the year, no doubt. The entire time I watched the movie, I found nothing that improved upon the original, and in fact it took many steps backwards. True, Zombie had guts to step in and not make a frame by frame remake, and also kudos to him for not putting in a lame pop out scare in every scene like most "horror" movies do today. But his writing, sorry, is quite awful. I'm not really sure where he wanted to go in this movie. In his previous two efforts, while both flawed, there were unique characters that you were both horrified and smitten with. Here, there is no one to root for because you simply do not care.

The biggest mistake is how much time is spent with Michael. After all these unnecessary scenes (seriously, what did we see here that couldn't be inferred already?) we are suddenly flung into the "remake" portion of the film. Bad, bad bad bad pacing. We go from Michael (who is no longer scary at all) with no cuts to the girls in between his break out. There was no development of our ladies, just some really awful dialogue and then nighttime. From there, it is a bunch of drawn out scenes, neither of which are scary or even fun. The "new" Laurie Strode does a fine job here, especially considering the bad writing she had to spew from her mouth. Other than that, everyone else save Malcom McDowell is pretty terrible.

The changes in this one aren't very good either. Like I said, kudos to Zombie for not just doing a frame by frame reinstallment, but even as a stand alone movie they just arent nearly as good as the original. The ending was unsatisfying, and hopefully they don't do another sequel (fat chance at that). I'm not really sure why Zombie even made the film to be honest. What was better in this one than the original? It wasn't as scary. The violence was pretty tame. The plot was worse. The acting was much worse. The music is used in bad spots unlike the original.

Overall, this movie really does no service to the original, and this is now three strikes on Zombie's resume, meaning he hopefully just stops altogether. And please please stop using your wife, she is terrible. Just skip this one and watch the original, Halloween II, and Halloween H20 and call it a trilogy.

3/10

[rosncranz]

Saw it last night, and it is probably one of the worst movies of the year, no doubt. The entire time I watched the movie, I found nothing that improved upon the original, and in fact it took many steps backwards. True, Zombie had guts to step in and not make a frame by frame remake, and also kudos to him for not putting in a lame pop out scare in every scene like most "horror" movies do today. But his writing, sorry, is quite awful. I'm not really sure where he wanted to go in this movie. In his previous two efforts, while both flawed, there were unique characters that you were both horrified and smitten with. Here, there is no one to root for because you simply do not care.

The biggest mistake is how much time is spent with Michael. After all these unnecessary scenes (seriously, what did we see here that couldn't be inferred already?) we are suddenly flung into the "remake" portion of the film. Bad, bad bad bad pacing. We go from Michael (who is no longer scary at all) with no cuts to the girls in between his break out. There was no development of our ladies, just some really awful dialogue and then nighttime. From there, it is a bunch of drawn out scenes, neither of which are scary or even fun. The "new" Laurie Strode does a fine job here, especially considering the bad writing she had to spew from her mouth. Other than that, everyone else save Malcom McDowell is pretty terrible.

The changes in this one aren't very good either. Like I said, kudos to Zombie for not just doing a frame by frame reinstallment, but even as a stand alone movie they just arent nearly as good as the original. The ending was unsatisfying, and hopefully they don't do another sequel (fat chance at that). I'm not really sure why Zombie even made the film to be honest. What was better in this one than the original? It wasn't as scary. The violence was pretty tame. The plot was worse. The acting was much worse. The music is used in bad spots unlike the original.

Overall, this movie really does no service to the original, and this is now three strikes on Zombie's resume, meaning he hopefully just stops altogether. And please please stop using your wife, she is terrible. Just skip this one and watch the original, Halloween II, and Halloween H20 and call it a trilogy.

3/10


While in general I disagree with you, though there several points I completely agree especially Sherri Moon's awful acting. But 3/10? It's nowhere near that bad. If I thought of the worst movie I have ever seen (Which Halloween 2007 is far from) chances are it would be at the lowest a 3/10. Why is everyone being so harsh? Objectively the film was not THAT bad.

[SnoBorderZero]

When a movie's only positives are that it didn't cookie cut it like most remakes do, it deserves a 3/10. I just wasn't entertained, I was bored. I just sat there watching all the "gangsters" in the theatre run around and get in other "gangsters" faces because there was no suspense or anything keeping me interested. I didn't think a Halloween movie could be worse than Resurrection, but this one certainly was.

[Duke-Leto]

I enjoyed it, much more than the original. I was never a fan of the original, not a big fan. I enjoyed Halloween 2 much more.

Halloween (original) - 5/10
Halloween 2 - 9/10
Halloween (2007) - 8/10

The rest get a 6/10 or below.

I really enjoyed Robs take on the story. I read he is not doing sequels but I hope he does some more movies while keeping the same cast. I loved them in Devil's Rejects and they were great in Halloween too. Good chemistry!

[MasterChief117]

Haloween has been played out way to many times and looks like a bore. Plus Rob is a bad director in my books.

[Alien]

Damn... The problem about open two windows at once, I voted on this poll for the other movie :(

I'd say it's a good moive, nothing out of this world but a 6 or an 7.

[Alien]

I really enjoyed Robs take on the story. I read he is not doing sequels but I hope he does some more movies while keeping the same cast. I loved them in Devil's Rejects and they were great in Halloween too. Good chemistry!
He got shot in the head at the end... How could he live on?

[gorm135]

halloween was good enough already, rob zombie had a real good idea at the time, but he in the end screwed it up. any remake should have been with freddy v.s. jason 2 and thats it.

[Dracula]

He got shot in the head at the end... How could he live on?

I answerd that earlier

Here's how they make the sequel

Note the cut that occured after Laurie was pushed over the balcony, we don't know how much time passed before she woke up. In that time Michael probably got up, put his mask on Dr. Loomis' body and put Laurie's uncontious body on top of it, before exiting stage left.

[Alien]

Here's how they make the sequel

Note the cut that occured after Laurie was pushed over the balcony, we don't know how much time passed before she woke up. In that time Michael probably got up, put his mask on Dr. Loomis' body and put Laurie's uncontious body on top of it, before exiting stage left.
People hated that idea in H20

[Dracula]

People hated that idea in H20

It's either that, or he's a ghost, the movie made money, the studio WILL make a sequel out of it.

[Alien]

It's either that, or he's a ghost, the movie made money, the studio WILL make a sequel out of it.
She missed lol

[Dracula]

She missed lol

or the gun was loaded with blanks, (which would explain a lot actually) :D

[Darth Maul]

or the gun was loaded with blanks, (which would explain a lot actually) :D

didn't we see blood? or was it just a shot.

[Matrix_Fan]

didn't we see blood? or was it just a shot.

There was blood. A lot actually.

[Darth Maul]

There was blood. A lot actually.

thats what i thought.