Classifications of Bond fans

[Doomsday]

My buddies and I, all hardcore Bond fans, had a long discussion a few days ago about Bond fans, going over the stereotypes and such of certain types of Bond fans. Although these are merely my opinions, I thought it would be fun to post what our conclusions were. I don't completely agree with these 100%, but here's what we generally came up with.

The older Bond fans:
The Bond fans who grew up with Bond all throughout childhood to adulthood. They think Connery was the best because he was the toughest, and don't hold much regard for the newer ones. James Bond kicked ass back in the day, and has more or less become a time piece for the 60s and 70s. Not much else to say about these Bond fans.

The younger Bond fans:
When I say younger, I mean fans who basically were introduced to Bond via Goleneye since he took a 7 year hiatus between Dalton and Brosnan. We can classify these fans anywhere from 1-30 years old. Generally, these Bond fans enjoy the Brosnan films because that was their first dose of Bond, yet also enjoy Connery basically because everyone tells them to, even though they really consider the Connery movies to be dated and sometimes boring. No doubt their favorite Bond films are Goldfinger and Goldeneye. They consider Timothy Dalton to be an awful choice for Bond, they consider On Her Majesty's Secret Service to be the worst Bond film, and think Roger Moore was cartoony but fun. They generally only watch Bond during the Spike tv marathons, and have only seen about half of the Bond films in their entirety, if that many.

The classic Bond fans:
These fans can be of any age or category. They have seen all the Bond films, know the actors including supporting actors, know the women, the themes, order in which they were released and sometimes even the directors. To them, there is no actor who truly was a "bad" Bond, just some were better than others for various reasons. They consider Connery to be the classic Bond if only due to the fact that he was the first to play the role. They consider On Her Majesty's Secret Service to be one of the best Bonds, only lacking Sean Connery in the main role, and even George Lazenby wasn't that bad. Roger Moore really only had about 2 solid Bond films (The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only), a couple so-so Bonds (Live and Let Die and Octopussy) and 3 that can be considered some of the worst (Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker, and View to a Kill). Moore isn't necessarily a bad choice for Bond, but his films are certainly at the bottom of the barrell. They think Timothy Dalton is actually a saving grace for Bond, both saving Bond from the cartoony unrealism that Moore brought, and also played a Bond that reflected the Ian Fleming Bond more than any actor to date. An extremely underrated Bond who gets much more guff than he deserves. Pierce Brosnan had a solid entrance, which his films declining in quality with each subsequent Bond film, again plummeting into cartoonish action and absurdity. Daniel Craig again brought depth and realism to the franchise, much like what Dalton did. Although Connery stands on his own, Moore can be compared with Brosnan due to the comic nature, quips, and over the top action. Dalton can be compared with Craig for bringing realism, drama, emotion, and overall redemption to the entire franchise.

I would probably consider myself a "classic" fan since I (we) fell under those categories we outlined. Anything you guys would add?

[HeadHunter]

I classify myself as a Younger Bond fan....tho i dont like Connery cause i have been told to, I like him cause he rocks....the rest still pretty much stands

[Neverending]

I don't agree 100% with what you just typed, but based on those categories I guess I would be considered a classic Bond fan.

[Tornado]

I guess I'd classify myself as a "classic Bond fan" then.

[Knerys]

I'd be a "Young Bond Fan". I have seen some of the Connery ones (feel much the way HH feels about him) but I working on the rest.

[Doomsday]

I don't agree 100% with what you just typed, but based on those categories I guess I would be considered a classic Bond fan.

Well what would you change? If you want, go ahead and copy and paste some of the paragraphs I posted and edit them to show the changes you would make and we can compare.

[HeadHunter]

I'd be a "Young Bond Fan". I have seen some of the Connery ones (feel much the way HH feels about him) but I working on the rest.


Yeah, i own most of the connery films and some of the brosnan.....the rest I have seen some probably most but they never stick :P

[Neverending]

If you want, go ahead and copy and paste some of the paragraphs I posted and edit them to show the changes you would make and we can compare.

I don't really need to do that. I just think that people have different opinions. It is true that some people just love the Bond of their childhood. For example, someone who grew up with Roger Moore probably likes him best. But...it all comes down to taste. Some people prefer a thriller-type film like FRWL while others prefer more over-the-top adventures like TSWLM. Its all taste, really. Like I don't think older fans hate the new stuff and younger fans hate the older stuff. While the "classic" fans are usually satisfied. I think it comes down to taste and what you feel the character represents. That's another thing. James Bond means something different to everyone. Some people want their Bond to be like Jason Bourne while others acknowledge its male fantasy and prefer their Bond to not be taken so seriously.

I do see, however, where you are coming from with your post. What you posted is the Bond sterotype. Some of it is true, but not completely accurate. Thats what I meant when I said, "I don't agree 100%."

The only Bond sterotype that I think is true is that hardcore Bond novels fans have drastically different opinions than the hardcore movie fans. I think JBond will agree with me on that.

[Doomsday]

I read the novels years ago when I was a teenager, I've been thinking of picking them up again, but even back then it was obvious how different the Fleming Bond is from the film Bond. Sure there are obvious similarities, but for the most part I don't think there's been a Bond film that has really personified a Fleming Bond completely.

[McGourgh]

I consider myself a classic bond fan then. Saw every movie, including the unoffical ones. I´m 20 years old now, was like 10 when I got interested in the Bond flicks, that was when TND came out. It didn´t take long, till I fell in love with the older Bond flicks. Especially FRWL and Goldfinger of course. But I´m also a huge fan (one of the few) of Timothy Dalton and TLD still ranks among my favorite Bond movies. Never was a big fan of Roger Moore, dunno it was just too much over the top I guess. Same goes for the last few of Brosnan, and thats really a shame, he had so much unused potential for the role.
Anyway, I must say that I love CR and I really love the way it´s taking the franchise and I can´t wait for the nr 22.

[JBond]

Of those choices, I'm clearly a "Classic Bond fan". I can't say which are more my tastes because I've seen them all so many times, they're all just "Bond films" to me. I enjoy them for different reasons.

Though I'd like to note my dad is an "Older Bond fan" but he has still seen them all and likes the Brosnan ones.

[FVD]

I think I'd like to class myself among the classic fans myself. I will definitely be collecting the Ultimate Edition DVD's soon not to mention reading the books but I can agree with the Classic statement.

[Neverending]

for the most part I don't think there's been a Bond film that has really personified a Fleming Bond completely.

Some novel fans think its Timothy Dalton and now Daniel Craig. Thats where the novel and movie fans disagree. Craig is well-liked all around, but movie fans would take Connery, Moore, and Brosnan over Timothy Dalton.

[Lynchfan2033]

The classic Bond fans:
These fans can be of any age or category. They have seen all the Bond films, know the actors including supporting actors, know the women, the themes, order in which they were released and sometimes even the directors. To them, there is no actor who truly was a "bad" Bond, just some were better than others for various reasons. They consider Connery to be the classic Bond if only due to the fact that he was the first to play the role. They consider On Her Majesty's Secret Service to be one of the best Bonds, only lacking Sean Connery in the main role, and even George Lazenby wasn't that bad. Roger Moore really only had about 2 solid Bond films (The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only), a couple so-so Bonds (Live and Let Die and Octopussy) and 3 that can be considered some of the worst (Man With The Golden Gun, Moonraker, and View to a Kill). Moore isn't necessarily a bad choice for Bond, but his films are certainly at the bottom of the barrell. They think Timothy Dalton is actually a saving grace for Bond, both saving Bond from the cartoony unrealism that Moore brought, and also played a Bond that reflected the Ian Fleming Bond more than any actor to date. An extremely underrated Bond who gets much more guff than he deserves. Pierce Brosnan had a solid entrance, which his films declining in quality with each subsequent Bond film, again plummeting into cartoonish action and absurdity. Daniel Craig again brought depth and realism to the franchise, much like what Dalton did. Although Connery stands on his own, Moore can be compared with Brosnan due to the comic nature, quips, and over the top action. Dalton can be compared with Craig for bringing realism, drama, emotion, and overall redemption to the entire franchise.

HOLY ****.. you hit me almost exactly this is almost exactly what I think

I know all the movies, what year they came out, who played bond, who sung the theme song, all the villians, almost all of the Actors who played villians.

I love OHMSS one of my favorites, I do not hate any actor who played Bond, I do think Connery is the Best, and no doubt the two best Moore's are Spy and FYEO(my favorite Moore) and do think Moonraker and A View to a Kill are the worst, TMWTGG is better than LALT in my opinion.

and hell yes Dalton was fantastic Licence to Kill is one of my favorites, he was a breath of fresh air after Moore old ass.

I do disagree about Brosnans entrance in that I am not a fan of Goldeneye, and i Really hate Tomorrow Never DIes.

and agree 100% about Dalton and Craig.

so yean no doubt Classic fan

[Boro]

I guess I'd consider myself a young bond fan, though I don't agree with the Connery remarks and I really don't know which movie Dalton was Bond in. Goldeneye and Goldfinger were my favorite (although I'd say Casino Royale is one of them too). I tried watching all of them, but Diamonds are Forever, The Man with the Goldengun, and Moonraker left such a bad taste in my mouth I decided against renting the other 10 or so I hadn't seen. I have no interest in renting the ones I haven't seen just for the reason I don't rent movies. Maybe my brother will waste money on them--not that buying them would be a waste* of money, but he buys a ridiculous amount of dvd's--or ask torn if he can lend me some for a couple days this summer.

*well, buying DVD's in general has seemed like a waste of money to me lately or this past year I guess, so I've been working on reducing the number of DVD's (and video games) I buy based on how often I think I'll watch them

[bbf2]

I'm a neo-classic fan. I consider only the later couple Moore films and the Dalton films to be the only REAL James Bond. "A View to a Kill" is the definitive Bond movie.

[McGourgh]

I tried watching all of them, but Diamonds are Forever, The Man with the Goldengun, and Moonraker left such a bad taste in my mouth I decided against renting the other 10 or so I hadn't seen.
lol, don´t worry, won´t get worse then this 3. Lots of fans will agree that those were the weakest overall.

[Doomsday]

Yeah, if anything you can have some of us make a list of watchable Bond movies for you (like For Your Eyes Only, one of the most underrated Bonds).

[Daniel]

I guess I'd consider myself classic ... I watched bond since I was a young kid [I'm 24 now], read many of the books before I saw a Brosnan film. I like Casino Royale a lot because it brought us back to the classic Bond that Connery and Moore exuded. I have never been a big fan of Dalton and Brosnan was good but not great in my opinion.

[JBond]

I'm a neo-classic fan. I consider only the later couple Moore films and the Dalton films to be the only REAL James Bond. "A View to a Kill" is the definitive Bond movie.

And Stacey was the best Bond girl.

JAAAAAAAMES!

[Neverending]

"A View to a Kill" is the definitive Bond movie.

So, the Goldfinger rip-off is your favorite! :eek: :lol: :nono:

[bbf2]

And Stacey was the best Bond girl.

JAAAAAAAMES!

No doubt.

Also, the best scene in any of the Bond movies is in "TMW Golden Gun," when the car jumps and spins over the lake and you hear the slide whistle. Really showed the class and sophistication Bond is supposed to have.

[JBond]

But you're forgetting about the part in your favorite movie when Bond has to ski down a hill once again so they upped the ante and put on the Beach Boys classic "California Girls".

[Neverending]

But you're forgetting about the part in your favorite movie when Bond has to ski down a hill once again so they upped the ante and put on the Beach Boys classic "California Girls".

This conversation cracks me up! :D

[Doomsday]

All I have to say....

Jaws landing in a circus net.

[Lynchfan2033]

So, the Goldfinger rip-off is your favorite! :eek: :lol: :nono:
thank you for saying it i was about to

[Neverending]

^ No problem. :)