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Drakon
08-12-2006, 12:35 PM
Is the quest for the big post count as bad here as it is on SHH? I post on about 5 other boards regularly, and even more on a non-regular basis, and I swear that SHH is the ONLY site that I've seen put so much stock in post count.

Personally, I think it's dumb to do so. At the risk of sounding like a cliché, it's not about how many you have, but how much the ones you have are worth. Nobody but you cares how big your avatar is, or if you have a sig. I've seen message boards that have been around for 3+ years and, well...


Threads: 1,662, Posts: 19,976, Members: 71
Welcome to our newest member, dev_tej_kohli



Threads: 12,099, Posts: 122,433, Members: 3,119
Welcome to our newest member, MatrixNeo


[Aside---dev_tej_kohli is a bot.]

I mean, maybe I'm crazy, but basing things off of post count is just crazy. That's how the really good posters get unnoticed, because while they don't say much, what they do say is lost in a bunch of "post count booster" activites.


/end rant

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 12:37 PM
Some people just want a big avatar and a sig because they like it better than being a username and a post.

SsM
08-12-2006, 12:38 PM
So you're saying that all of those.... "last thing you ate" "last time you peed" "last tv show you watched" etc.. threads are stupid??!!!!



I agree.... Theres one guy on the hype thats been here for like three weeks and he has like 8k posts.. almost all of them are in threads like that :/

now I post alot on the boards.. but I mainly stay in the products forum

I've tried to think of something to get this guy to calm down his posts.. but I dont know...

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 12:41 PM
We have people at SHH who have only been there for less than a month and have reached like 6,000+. About three weeks actually. Some can get like 30,000+ in a couple of months.

I've been there since September 2004 and I have like 8,600 or something. Is that normal?:confused:

ROBOCOP Cpu001
08-12-2006, 12:42 PM
these people are called..

i have no girlfriend.

SsM
08-12-2006, 12:42 PM
I've got like.. 3k.. since like february.. still a bit much..

hades
08-12-2006, 12:46 PM
I feel like we have raped and defiled this board...:(

squeekness
08-12-2006, 12:46 PM
I think that a lot of the useless spammage goes away as soon as you take away the prestige of bigger avvys and the like. I prefer a forum that allows the full ameneties to those who walk in the door, it takes away the "jeaousy" factor that causes folks to spam for stuff. That being said, threads like "Love it/Hate it" and "Three word story" still thrive there. They can be used to learn more about each other and all that. I prefer a chat thread myself but then, I'm a blabber. :)

ROBOCOP Cpu001
08-12-2006, 12:47 PM
we have breathed life into the board..

there is hardly anyone here..from what i can tell.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 12:47 PM
So you're saying that all of those.... "last thing you ate" "last time you peed" "last tv show you watched" etc.. threads are stupid??!!!!



I agree.... Theres one guy on the hype thats been here for like three weeks and he has like 8k posts.. almost all of them are in threads like that :/

now I post alot on the boards.. but I mainly stay in the products forum

I've tried to think of something to get this guy to calm down his posts.. but I dont know...

Yup.

Admittedly, when I first joined SHH, I did it--I was a forum newbie. I posted 1334 times in the "Word Association" thread, and I posted a lot in C4, Extreme Boredom, and the Nightclub [but those were for the conversations, as opposed to the post count--I still talk to most of my buddies from those three]. But the further it goes, the more annoying it gets. It's either rewarding stupidity, ignoring brilliance, or sometimes both. Something else that annoys me is using "lol" or something of the like on a forum, but I'll save that rant for another time.

MISSPIGGYQUEENOFHELL
08-12-2006, 12:48 PM
I've never racked up that many posts on any message board that I have been to since I always use multiple usernames. Between my 3 usernames on the Superherohype boards I would say that I have roughly about 2,000 posts in total, but I don't go around posting senseless stuff just to boost my post count.

squeekness
08-12-2006, 12:48 PM
I've got like.. 3k.. since like february.. still a bit much..I've got over 20k over the course of a year, and yeah, I did some spamming in the beginning to get my avvy and all that, but mostly I was on all day because I work part time. I've cut back since then amd I don't use the spam threads anymore. It gets boring after a while. I prefer conversation.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 12:50 PM
I think that a lot of the useless spammage goes away as soon as you take away the prestige of bigger avvys and the like. I prefer a forum that allows the full ameneties to those who walk in the door, it takes away the "jeaousy" factor that causes folks to spam for stuff. That being said, threads like "Love it/Hate it" and "Three word story" still thrive there. They can be used to learn more about each other and all that. I prefer a chat thread myself but then, I'm a blabber. :)

Or, what I prefer--earn these things by post count AND time being a member. Like, to get a 50x50, you'd need 300 posts and to have been there a month, and so on. It'd also make bannings mean more.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 12:51 PM
I didn't care about an avatar for a long time at SHH. I didn't get my first one until I had more than 1,000 posts because I really wasn't after one.

squeekness
08-12-2006, 12:52 PM
Or, what I prefer--earn these things by post count AND time being a member. Like, to get a 50x50, you'd need 300 posts and to have been there a month, and so on. It'd also make bannings mean more.yeah, I can buy that. But really? Anytime you reward posters for post count, it's gonna lead to spammage. Better to eliminate all that by just letting folks have their avvy right away. Avvys define us and help us to deferentiate who is who. :)

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 12:54 PM
Yeah, if I'm looking for a post I made in a thread on SHH I look for my avatar on the side. I can tell which one is me right away.

0 posts=50x50
300 posts=75x75
3,000 posts=100x100

That would be good.

Prysm
08-12-2006, 12:54 PM
To be honest I don't pay attention to post count anymore.

I used to back when 3,000 was the number on Hype, but since the new rules for Avatars and such it hasn't been a big deal and in someways I hate having my post count so high for a newbie like me. It makes me look like I spam.

*I don't really..not on Hype*

CConn
08-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Admittedly, I spammed a ton for about 6 months in late 04 or so, however since then, I really haven't at all, and I still have some 40,000 posts now. I think the important thing to remember is, yeah, post count doesn't matter - on both sides of the fence.

Yeah, there's plenty of people who've been on the Hype (and here, I guess) for years, only have a thousand or so posts, and still contribute great things. And on the other side, there's tons of people with 20,000+ plus posts that debate, and comment, and add to the discussion as much as anyone. This idea that if you have a lot of posts in a short time you must be posting in nothing but association threads is a bit untrue.

Personally, I don't think I ever remember really caring about post count. Even when I spammed, it was more of a game than another. Now for me it's little more than a passing thought.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 12:56 PM
yeah, I can buy that. But really? Anytime you reward posters for post count, it's gonna lead to spammage. Better to eliminate all that by just letting folks have their avvy right away. Avvys define us and help us to deferentiate who is who. :)

But this way, only active accounts can get avvys and sigs. If I just make Drakon, I could make Drak, Draker and El Drakerino for those not into that whole brevity thing. I could just post on Drakon, all the while my other names are getting prepped for avatars and sigs, so if I get banned, these names already have what I need.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 12:57 PM
I was stupid when I joined SHH in September 2004. I didn't know what spam was.

squeekness
08-12-2006, 12:59 PM
But this way, only active accounts can get avvys and sigs. If I just make Drakon, I could make Drak, Draker and El Drakerino for those not into that whole brevity thing. I could just post on Drakon, all the while my other names are getting prepped for avatars and sigs, so if I get banned, these names already have what I need.Well, I tend to play things pretty safe, I have never been banned, never been close to being banned, so covering my butt for future bannage was never an issue with me. ;) I know folks who have more than one acount anyhow just becuase they like it. I'm not sure I see what the difference is if all those names had avvys or whatnot. :)

Prysm
08-12-2006, 01:00 PM
But this way, only active accounts can get avvys and sigs. If I just make Drakon, I could make Drak, Draker and El Drakerino for those not into that whole brevity thing. I could just post on Drakon, all the while my other names are getting prepped for avatars and sigs, so if I get banned, these names already have what I need.


Then it comes down to three things.

Instant Avatars, and more usernames, and potentially more spam.

or

People spamming for higher post count, for better avatars.

or

No post count.

Personally I prefer the first because it's easier to ignore the multiple screen names than the constant spam. I also like the third option, however it would cause a ruckus.

Also I do think, to a certain extent, that the closing of the association threads have lead to the stupid one word spam posts in the Lounge.

Most of the spamming used to happen in the Questions thread and that's how people conversed with each other. while C4 was for movies and games chats, the TB was for Spidey stuff and the Nightclub was a fun light role playing while you talk with intelligence about life.

Frizzo the Clown
08-12-2006, 01:00 PM
I remember when the "rewards" of avatars, sigs and custom titles (hell, I even remember not having any of those) were rewarded for 10,000 (more or less) posts or so, sometimes even higher. People started complaining. Oh, I'll never get that much. So, it got lower, and lower, and lower, and lower and lower, because people were more concerned about getting avatars and whatnot instead of actually contributing to the forums. Just like I've seen people whose very first posts on the site is asking about avatars. Upon finding out that you need a measly 300 posts, they just spend the next 300 posts *****ing and moaning about needing that many posts.

Tzarinna
08-12-2006, 01:00 PM
There are a lot more topics to discuss on Hype then CS :confused:
It's not hard to boost the count,and after most get that 100x100 they are still ripping and roaring so it can't all be about the avvy.

I'm tired,I'm I making any sense :(

I'm on other boards as well and there is no increase in size of avvy it's all set the same. I try to be active in them but there's really not much to discuss that I'm into.

squeekness
08-12-2006, 01:00 PM
I was stupid when I joined SHH in September 2004. I didn't know what spam was.The first time I heard the word troll, I was like -- what's that? :P

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 01:00 PM
I think we should atleast be allowed to have Custom User Titles and sigs when we first join.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 01:02 PM
The first time I heard the word troll, I was like -- what's that? :P

I thought it was the fairy tale monster when I first heard it.:redface:

jaguarr
08-12-2006, 01:02 PM
Some people just want a big avatar and a sig because they like it better than being a username and a post.

If someone's "identity" on a message board comes not from what they have to contribute but from their avatar and signature, then chances are they didn't have much of interest to say anyway.

jag

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 01:04 PM
If someone's "identity" on a message board comes not from what they have to contribute but from their avatar and signature, then chances are they didn't have much of interest to say anyway.

jag

I'm just saying, that's what I think they want.

MISSPIGGYQUEENOFHELL
08-12-2006, 01:05 PM
Yeah, if I'm looking for a post I made in a thread on SHH I look for my avatar on the side. I can tell which one is me right away.

0 posts=50x50
300 posts=75x75
3,000 posts=100x100

That would be good.

That would be good. Post counts on message boards are like videogames the higher the number that you achieve the more advantages you will get but post counts can go on & on & eventually the advantages that you get come to an end because you have achieved all your goals & then racking up posts just gets boring after time.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 01:06 PM
I notice on SHH that some people post alot and then they don't post as much once they hit 6,000.

jaguarr
08-12-2006, 01:06 PM
I'm just saying, that's what I think they want.


The idea behind those things is that they are "privileges" or "rewards" that are meant to be earned by being a contributing member of a community over a period of time. People who spam their way to those things really strike me as people with either a great deal of social ineptitude or a fixation on the petty things in life.

jag

Prysm
08-12-2006, 01:07 PM
I think we should atleast be allowed to have Custom User Titles and sigs when we first join.


Honey, back in the day you got a sig and avatar the custom title was a BIG deal. The custom titles were also cooler....Side-Kick...Vigilante...Super-Hero....Golden Age Super-Hero, was the last one and I was so proud of it I kept it for months after I passed 3,000.

I remember when the "rewards" of avatars, sigs and custom titles (hell, I even remember not having any of those) were rewarded for 10,000 (more or less) posts or so, sometimes even higher. People started complaining. Oh, I'll never get that much. So, it got lower, and lower, and lower, and lower and lower, because people were more concerned about getting avatars and whatnot instead of actually contributing to the forums. Just like I've seen people whose very first posts on the site is asking about avatars. Upon finding out that you need a measly 300 posts, they just spend the next 300 posts *****ing and moaning about needing that many posts.

It's a never ending cycle, and I think that to a certain extent if the reward comes at a higher post count it means more. If you watch the forum for spam and such, or only make it avaliable in certain areas then the ones who last longer are able to get avatars.

It's so much in the mentality of the poster though that you can't judge it as a whole. You can't assume that larger post count rewards mean more spam, nor can you assume that less post count awards mean less spam.

*top of head rant over*

boydston_14
08-12-2006, 01:08 PM
We have people at SHH who have only been there for less than a month and have reached like 6,000+. About three weeks actually. Some can get like 30,000+ in a couple of months.

I've been there since September 2004 and I have like 8,600 or something. Is that normal?:confused:

My question is how can anyone get that many posts in such a short time? I've been here since May 2005 and I have, well, not that much compared to a guy who can reach 6,000 in a month.

Frizzo the Clown
08-12-2006, 01:09 PM
That would be good. Post counts on message boards are like videogames the higher the number that you achieve the more advantages you will get but post counts can go on & on & eventually the advantages that you get come to an end because you have achieved all your goals & then racking up posts just gets boring after time.
Thats the thing though. Its not supposed to be about just racking up posts. Its supposed to be about actually having something to say, contributing to conversations, discussions, debates, etc. If you have something worthwhile to say, it doesn't get boring.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 01:10 PM
My question is how can anyone get that many posts in such a short time? I've been here since May 2005 and I have, well, not that much compared to a guy who can reach 6,000 in a month.

Go visit. Its Community Forum has tons of threads that are updated every minute. I swear. The Spider-Man 3 Hype is also loaded with updated threads and posts. We have tons of threads there too.

Nice sig by the way.

MISSPIGGYQUEENOFHELL
08-12-2006, 01:14 PM
My question is how can anyone get that many posts in such a short time? I've been here since May 2005 and I have, well, not that much compared to a guy who can reach 6,000 in a month.

Either their very educated in what their talking about & like discussing things or either their just out to spam as much as possible.

boydston_14
08-12-2006, 01:14 PM
Go visit. Its Community Forum has tons of threads that are updated every minute. I swear. The Spider-Man 3 Hype is also loaded with updated threads and posts. We have tons of threads there too.

Nice sig by the way.

Thanks, and I know about the Spidey 3 forum, I was there the night the teaser trailer was released. There were about 5 or 6 posts in one thread in a minute. it was crazy.

Master Chief
08-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Honey, back in the day you got a sig and avatar the custom title was a BIG deal. The custom titles were also cooler....Side-Kick...Vigilante...Super-Hero....Golden Age Super-Hero, was the last one and I was so proud of it I kept it for months after I passed 3,000.

Ah, the memories. :(

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Thanks, and I know about the Spidey 3 forum, I was there the night the teaser trailer was released. There were about 5 or 6 posts in one thread in a minute. it was crazy.

I don't know how late you were there but the bootleg of it came at 4:30 A.M. and a few users and I saw it then. We called ourselves the Band of Brothers and it's now in our sigs. I was up until like 6:30 A.M. talking about it with them. There was about a page a minute.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 01:17 PM
Well, I tend to play things pretty safe, I have never been banned, never been close to being banned, so covering my butt for future bannage was never an issue with me. ;) I know folks who have more than one acount anyhow just becuase they like it. I'm not sure I see what the difference is if all those names had avvys or whatnot. :)

Yeah, but that's you. A LOT of people like to sit on the fence, as it were , and would prep like that. I mean, hell, I've got two names, but I only use Drak, because I use Firefox, but if I am on IE, I used my other name. I understand the idea of using more than one name [so long as it's not a ridiculous number *coughMASTERCHIEFcough*] but when a site that I'm supposed to moderate loses it's flair because more people are worried about avatars and crap instead of what REALLY matters, that bugs me.

I remember when the "rewards" of avatars, sigs and custom titles (hell, I even remember [i]not having any of those) were rewarded for 10,000 (more or less) posts or so, sometimes even higher. People started complaining. Oh, I'll never get that much. So, it got lower, and lower, and lower, and lower and lower, because people were more concerned about getting avatars and whatnot instead of actually contributing to the forums. Just like I've seen people whose very first posts on the site is asking about avatars. Upon finding out that you need a measly 300 posts, they just spend the next 300 posts *****ing and moaning about needing that many posts.

We can top that. On SHH, we have a thread STICKIED in Tech about Avatars, Sigs, Titles, and some FAQs. Yet, we still get PMs or threads about it. Most of our staffers have had it in our sigs for a while, I even made it a forumwide annoucement for a while. There's no learning these fools. :(


If someone's "identity" on a message board comes not from what they have to contribute but from their avatar and signature, then chances are they didn't have much of interest to say anyway.

jag

...and BINGO was his name, oh!

squeekness
08-12-2006, 01:18 PM
Thanks, and I know about the Spidey 3 forum, I was there the night the teaser trailer was released. There were about 5 or 6 posts in one thread in a minute. it was crazy.It was the same with X3. I think I had 200 posts that night just talking with people about what we saw. No spammage, just a lot of excitement. :D

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 01:19 PM
It was the same with X3. I think I had 200 posts that night just talking with people about what we saw. No spammage, just a lot of excitement. :D

Yep. That's what it is over there on nights like that.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 01:23 PM
Then it comes down to three things.

Instant Avatars, and more usernames, and potentially more spam.

or

People spamming for higher post count, for better avatars.

or

No post count.

Personally I prefer the first because it's easier to ignore the multiple screen names than the constant spam. I also like the third option, however it would cause a ruckus.

Also I do think, to a certain extent, that the closing of the association threads have lead to the stupid one word spam posts in the Lounge.

Most of the spamming used to happen in the Questions thread and that's how people conversed with each other. while C4 was for movies and games chats, the TB was for Spidey stuff and the Nightclub was a fun light role playing while you talk with intelligence about life.

I almost wouldn't mind the ruckus. Things just go better when people aren't worried about the small stuff.

Honey, back in the day you got a sig and avatar the custom title was a BIG deal. The custom titles were also cooler....Side-Kick...Vigilante...Super-Hero....Golden Age Super-Hero, was the last one and I was so proud of it I kept it for months after I passed 3,000.


Yeah, they did. Trainee, Hype! Citizen, and so forth.

ultimate_evil
08-12-2006, 01:26 PM
i never really say the point or cared that much about my post count, i post in threads if i like the subject or to get feedback on my work, if dont post then no big deal i mean I've been at the hype from 2001 and only hit 10k two months ago, where as some are hitting it in a matter of weeks

Tzarinna
08-12-2006, 01:30 PM
People are living in the past,man :rolleyes:

*where's The Dude :confused:

Drakon
08-12-2006, 01:30 PM
Oh, and that post

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Drakon
08-12-2006, 01:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/Drakon/Showoff/SNAG-0000copy.jpg

Prysm
08-12-2006, 01:40 PM
I get the feeling this irks you Drak.


:P ;)

Drakon
08-12-2006, 01:42 PM
Just a skotch.

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 01:51 PM
I dont care about post counts, im all for eliminating them.

ultimate_evil
08-12-2006, 01:58 PM
hmmm so what are you getting at here drakon :D ;)

Lucky Charms
08-12-2006, 01:59 PM
hmmm so what are you getting at here drakon :D ;)

I'm not sure what he's saying, but I am sure that he should be burned at the stake for heresy.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 01:59 PM
Honestly, nothing, other than my annoyance at this. This isn't anything official, just merely a rant by a poster.

I'm not sure what he's saying, but I am sure that he should be burned at the stake for heresy.

Mmm. Steak AND cereal. You DO love me.

Immortalfire
08-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Here we see a Hype member striving to reach a lot of posts...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/30643/computerguy.gif

Soon...
http://www2.latech.edu/~mcorley/me592/spring1998/monster.gif

They come for you!

Immortalfire
08-12-2006, 02:01 PM
hmmm so what are you getting at here drakon :D ;) Doooood! What's happenin :cool:

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 02:03 PM
Honestly, nothing, other than my annoyance at this. This isn't anything official, just merely a rant by a poster.


I almost have 30,000 posts at the Hype, but I really wouldnt mind if they were eliminated. Is it cool seeing how many posts you have, sure but theyve become a sign of the elitism or just a some hurdle to jump over to get a snazzy avatar. I dont nkow how many times im debating with someone and theyll stop and be like "Just because you have a higher post count doesnt make you better than me" and all I have to say is WTF?:confused:

Lucky Charms
08-12-2006, 02:07 PM
Here we see a Hype member striving to reach a lot of posts...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/30643/computerguy.gif

Soon...
http://www2.latech.edu/~mcorley/me592/spring1998/monster.gif

They come for you!

Only to be joined by the members of Comingsoon. :P

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/CodyA/10101643ABoris-Karloff-The-Mummy-Po.jpg

Drakon
08-12-2006, 02:07 PM
That's something else, too. Get them off the thread. Make it so that you can see how many posts someone has in their profile, but have it turned off in threads. That would be awesome.

ultimate_evil
08-12-2006, 02:16 PM
Doooood! What's happenin :cool:


just farting around playing the punisher, may try and get my joker game skin finished

SsM
08-12-2006, 02:18 PM
I notice on SHH that some people post alot and then they don't post as much once they hit 6,000.


is that number significant?


I almost have 30,000 posts at the Hype, but I really wouldnt mind if they were eliminated. Is it cool seeing how many posts you have, sure but theyve become a sign of the elitism or just a some hurdle to jump over to get a snazzy avatar. I dont nkow how many times im debating with someone and theyll stop and be like "Just because you have a higher post count doesnt make you better than me" and all I have to say is WTF?:confused:

Or if they have a higher post count they are just like stfu noob :x

I for one have only been in one argument on the hype so far. and it ended quite well.. no name calling ensued :) but i see the whole.. you think you're better... or stfu noob thing alot.. or variations of them

Drakon
08-12-2006, 02:22 PM
6000 posts for a 100x100 avatar

Frank Castle
08-12-2006, 02:25 PM
I don't care about them either. I tkae my time and make good posts i would hope. I have yet to reach 6,000 at the Hype. But i'll get there when the time comes.

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 02:25 PM
Or if they have a higher post count they are just like stfu noob :x

I for one have only been in one argument on the hype so far. and it ended quite well.. no name calling ensued :) but i see the whole.. you think you're better... or stfu noob thing alot.. or variations of them


Yeah I dont get it, like ill be ina thread debating with someone and theyll be like "Shut up, you dont know what youre talking about stop upping your post count." Its like they feel threatened.:confused:

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 02:26 PM
I don't care about them either. I tkae my time and make good posts i would hope. I have yet to reach 6,000 at the Hype. But i'll get there when the time comes.


Youre the same Frank who posts in the comic boards right?

Frank Castle
08-12-2006, 02:27 PM
Yeah, at the Hype i'm The Punisher.

Warhammer Zero
08-12-2006, 02:28 PM
I used to care about posts, but since I have a 75x75 avvy, I don't care anymore. Btw, I would only care for posts on the Hype anyway.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 02:37 PM
Is this stuff I should actually talk to Mirko about? Removing post counts from threads, adjusting the UserGroups to include registration dates?

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 02:38 PM
Is this stuff I should actually talk to Mirko about? Removing post counts from threads, adjusting the UserGroups to include registration dates?


I think you should ask the people, I know a lot of people are proud of their post counts for wahtever reason. Find out what the general consensus is. Also another thing, whatever happened to the Public groups on the hype?:confused:

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 02:39 PM
I've never racked up that many posts on any message board that I have been to since I always use multiple usernames. Between my 3 usernames on the Superherohype boards I would say that I have roughly about 2,000 posts in total, but I don't go around posting senseless stuff just to boost my post count.
holy god!!!..your name is so big!!!!

squeekness
08-12-2006, 02:39 PM
Yeah I dont get it, like ill be ina thread debating with someone and theyll be like "Shut up, you dont know what youre talking about stop upping your post count." Its like they feel threatened.:confused:Some folks just like to argue. If they didn't have that as ammunition against you, they'd just find something else. :(

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 02:40 PM
Some folks just like to argue. If they didn't have that as ammunition against you, they'd just find something else. :(


I guess its their fallback plan when their argument is shot. I just dont ever go "Shut up, you have less posts than me, you dont know anything." Its stupid.

Frank Castle
08-12-2006, 02:42 PM
holy god!!!..your name is so big!!!!

Who is she at the Hype?

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 02:42 PM
I dont care about post counts, im all for eliminating them.

But yours is so big :eek:

Whirly

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 02:44 PM
But yours is so big :eek:

Whirly


So? Does my post count define me as a poster on the Hype?

squeekness
08-12-2006, 02:44 PM
Who is she at the Hype?Toven/Holly Goodhead. :D Or so someone said. :D

Drakon
08-12-2006, 02:45 PM
I think you should ask the people, I know a lot of people are proud of their post counts for wahtever reason. Find out what the general consensus is. Also another thing, whatever happened to the Public groups on the hype?:confused:

Once SHH is operational, I might make a thread with a poll about it.

Public Groups got canned because they were interfering with teh UserGroup setup for avatars.

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 02:45 PM
Once SHH is operational, I might make a thread with a poll about it.

Public Groups got canned because they were interfering with teh UserGroup setup for avatars.


Ah ok.

Nesis
08-12-2006, 02:45 PM
I think that a lot of the useless spammage goes away as soon as you take away the prestige of bigger avvys and the like. I prefer a forum that allows the full ameneties to those who walk in the door, it takes away the "jeaousy" factor that causes folks to spam for stuff. That being said, threads like "Love it/Hate it" and "Three word story" still thrive there. They can be used to learn more about each other and all that. I prefer a chat thread myself but then, I'm a blabber. :)

I agree with this. I wish they would eliminate post counts all together.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 02:59 PM
I might just make this a poll, actually, since it's got a more broad audience than simply asking Community.

List all the ideas that have come up so far.

Disable Post Counts in Threads
Adjusting UserGroups so that Join Date also affects Avatars
Giving Newbies Small Avatars

Frank Castle
08-12-2006, 03:02 PM
Toven/Holly Goodhead. :D Or so someone said. :D

Figures, thanks squeek. :D

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 03:05 PM
So? Does my post count define me as a poster on the Hype?

Only you know the answer to that ;). The question perhaps is, does it define you to others? Well, What do you think? :)

- Whirly

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 03:06 PM
Only you know the answer to that ;).

- Whirly


Not really. When you think Darthphere do you think post count, or an *******?

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 03:08 PM
Not really. When you think Darthphere do you think post count, or an *******?

It depends :) on if I agree with you or not. Which varies from thread to thread and post to post.

- Whirly

Themanofbat
08-12-2006, 03:50 PM
While I'm not going to say that I have never spammed on the Hype, it did take me 2 1/2 years to get my first 5000 posts in order to get my custom made title.

And boy, was that ever a proud moment, because I did it the old fashioned way...

Nowadays, somebody can easily rack up 5000 posts in a month. :mad: :(

Just my two cents... :)

Hawt Secks
08-12-2006, 03:53 PM
I enjoy being a noob again, it's fun seeing if someone's going to be a ******** to me

Then I can be all IM STILL BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I HAVE TEH ECKSPHERIENCES IN TEH MASSAGE BURDS

and then they'll be all

:(


and Ill be all

Pwnt.



The End

DOG LIPS
08-12-2006, 03:53 PM
It's not the size of your post count, it's the motion in the ocean.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 03:55 PM
No, TMOB. I'm glad you posted in here, I was just about to PM you for your opinion. You're one of the oldbies I really respect, and your opinion means a lot, especially in this case, becase I don't want to just get the opinon of a few 2005+ users and stuff. Nothing against them, of course, but I need a wider audience, as it were.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 04:03 PM
is that number significant?

Yes.

Tzarinna
08-12-2006, 04:08 PM
While I'm not going to say that I have never spammed on the Hype, it did take me 2 1/2 years to get my first 5000 posts in order to get my custom made title.

And boy, was that ever a proud moment, because I did it the old fashioned way...

Nowadays, somebody can easily rack up 5000 posts in a month. :mad: :(

Just my two cents... :)

Regardless of the game threads,aren't there a lot more topics that are discussed since 2001. Way more superhero movies are being made. When some news comes out the place is on fire and it's not hard to rack up your post. Oh and DSL helps out a lot :D, some of these kids are home all day during the summer.

Lucky Charms
08-12-2006, 04:09 PM
It's not the size of your post count, it's the motion in the ocean.

I don't really care, as long as I can keep my 100x100 avatar. :mad:

PS; Drakon, teach them how to use the new/old mad emoticon.

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 04:10 PM
42 is the most important number.

- Whirly

Drakon
08-12-2006, 04:13 PM
I don't really care, as long as I can keep my 100x100 avatar. :mad:

PS; Drakon, teach them how to use the new/old mad emoticon.

They'd need a link to the classic mad smiley.

Tzarinna
08-12-2006, 04:14 PM
squeek was able to get over 200 posts in the welcome thread, all ya have to do is chat. It's not a bad thing is it :confused:

Lucky Charms
08-12-2006, 04:16 PM
They'd need a link to the classic mad smiley.

If you provide it, they will come.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 04:23 PM
I think you're missing my point, friend. There are people who have at least 40-75% of their posts are one-word posts in spammy threads like "Last thing you ate/drank/peed/pooped/wore on your head", or something simular just because they want an avatar/sig/title. I'm all for chat-chat til you're hands fall off. Hell, if you look in Games, I'm in the top 10 in terms of chat thread posters. But there's a difference between chat and crap.

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 04:24 PM
While I'm not going to say that I have never spammed on the Hype, it did take me 2 1/2 years to get my first 5000 posts in order to get my custom made title.

And boy, was that ever a proud moment, because I did it the old fashioned way...

Nowadays, somebody can easily rack up 5000 posts in a month. :mad: :(

Just my two cents... :)


Ive been on board for 3 years and im reaching 30,000 posts in the next few weeks, probably. Thats means 10,000 posts a year roughly, but I know my first year I didnt post as much and there was a period where I didnt post at all.

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 04:25 PM
I think you're missing my point, friend. There are people who have at least 40-75% of their posts are one-word posts in spammy threads like "Last thing you ate/drank/peed/pooped/wore on your head", or something simular just because they want an avatar/sig/title. I'm all for chat-chat til you're hands fall off. Hell, if you look in Games, I'm in the top 10 in terms of chat thread posters. But there's a difference between chat and crap.


Well even threads with actual topics tend to become chat threads after a while, especially in Community.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 04:30 PM
Well even threads with actual topics tend to become chat threads after a while, especially in Community.

And again, I personally don't mind that. What I DO mind, however, is someone just being bored and spamming up an account just to get a bigger avatar because they can. Also, if there's a time requirement on it, then that'd make it so that the people who like to stay in trouble will re-think that idea.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 04:31 PM
I hate it when I see posts like this. It's just annoying.

"gjdaklj."

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 04:32 PM
And again, I personally don't mind that. What I DO mind, however, is someone just being bored and spamming up an account just to get a bigger avatar because they can. Also, if there's a time requirement on it, then that'd make it so that the people who like to stay in trouble will re-think that idea.


Lets say we get rid of post counts. How will that work, like you'd have to be on the Hype 3 months before you get an avatar?

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 04:33 PM
No.

I like my post account on SHH. It just shows how I like the site and that I'm a fan of it and stuff. I'm proud of earning those posts.

Nesis
08-12-2006, 04:33 PM
I have a suggestion then. Why dont you not have post counts in the one word threads or as you like to call them "Last thing you ate/drank/peed/pooped/wore on your head", or something simular just because they want an avatar/sig/title. Then they won't be called spamming threads anymore and the ones who enjoy them could still do them. Could this even be done though?

Iceman/Psylocke
08-12-2006, 04:47 PM
Or, what I prefer--earn these things by post count AND time being a member. Like, to get a 50x50, you'd need 300 posts and to have been there a month, and so on. It'd also make bannings mean more.

I agree with this view. No benefits should accrue solely from post count. By combining length of membership and post count as prerequisites for benefits, only members who are both active and patient would be rewarded and there would be less benefit from spamming. Also, as you have said, bans would become a lot more meaningful.

There are many threads that could be considered solely "spam" in the vein of "last X you watched/did/listened to" etc. I still post in some of these (especially the music related thread) but I do it because I occasionally enjoy posting in them rather than to boost my post count. I would be perfectly happy to be stripped of all posts in those threads.

These kind of threads can easily be abused due to the fact they do not require any reading and can be as short as one word posts. I don’t think they should contribute towards post count at all.

I've seen one guy who joined a few weeks ago who according to his posts watches 10 feature length films, 25 TV programmes and plays 30 video games per day while also accumulating 500 posts per day :omg: It should not be difficult to catch and warn these people who abuse the system so blatantly.

Given your concerns on the above and your position, do you have the power to make/push through some of the changes that you have suggested?

Nesis
08-12-2006, 04:51 PM
I agree with this view. No benefits should accrue solely from post count. By combining length of membership and post count as prerequisites for benefits, only members who are both active and patient would be rewarded and there would be less benefit from spamming. Also, as you have said, bans would become a lot more meaningful.

There are many threads that could be considered solely "spam" in the vein of "last X you watched/did/listened to" etc. I still post in some of these (especially the music related thread) but I do it because I occasionally enjoy posting in them rather than to boost my post count. I would be perfectly happy to be stripped of all posts in those threads.

These kind of threads can easily be abused due to the fact they do not require any reading and can be as short as one word posts. I don’t think they should contribute towards post count at all.

I've seen one guy who joined a few weeks ago who according to his posts watches 10 feature length films, 25 TV programmes and plays 30 video games per day while also accumulating 500 posts per day :omg: It should not be difficult to catch and warn these people who abuse the system so blatantly.

Given your concerns on the above and your position, do you have the power to make/push through some of the changes that you have suggested?


I agree with you . I would be perfectly happy to be stripped of those post as well.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 04:52 PM
Lets say we get rid of post counts. How will that work, like you'd have to be on the Hype 3 months before you get an avatar?

Well, ideally, we wouldn't get RID of post counts meaning something. It'd be more of a dual stipulation. Something like this--

Signature--1 Week
Custom Title--2 Weeks and 100 posts
Small Avatar--1 Month and 300 posts
Medium Avatar--3 Month and 1000 posts
Large Avatar--6 Months and 2500 posts

THIS IS NOT EXACT--JUST AN EXAMPLE TO GIVE AN IDEA!


I have a suggestion then. Why dont you not have post counts in the one word threads or as you like to call them "Last thing you ate/drank/peed/pooped/wore on your head", or something simular just because they want an avatar/sig/title. Then they won't be called spamming threads anymore and the ones who enjoy them could still do them. Could this even be done though?

Yeah, all that'd need to be done is moving all these games into a new forum, and disabling posts from adding to your post count.

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 04:55 PM
Well, ideally, we wouldn't get RID of post counts meaning something. It'd be more of a dual stipulation. Something like this--

Signature--1 Week
Custom Title--2 Weeks and 100 posts
Small Avatar--1 Month and 300 posts
Medium Avatar--3 Month and 1000 posts
Large Avatar--6 Months and 2500 posts

THIS IS NOT EXACT--JUST AN EXAMPLE TO GIVE AN IDEA!




Yeah, all that'd need to be done is moving all these games into a new forum, and disabling posts from adding to your post count.


I like that idea, that way someone doesnt register and then never posts for 6 months and comes pack to have the honor of a 100x100 avatar.

On the second thing about moving games to its own forums. You'd get a dead forum really. People post in game forums for post count (or at least a lot of them do).

Two Face
08-12-2006, 04:55 PM
Dude get over it, there are more important things in life than you getting pissed about posters, and posts etc....

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Dude get over it, there are more important things in life than you getting pissed about posters, and posts etc....


:confused:

Iceman/Psylocke
08-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Yeah, all that'd need to be done is moving all these games into a new forum, and disabling posts from adding to your post count.If that's the case I would suggest that, providing the mods/admins agree, they should go with it. You could always poll the users if you felt the need but I would expect that you would get a similar response.

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 04:58 PM
Also, a Deathlok thread counts as spam.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 04:58 PM
I agree with this view. No benefits should accrue solely from post count. By combining length of membership and post count as prerequisites for benefits, only members who are both active and patient would be rewarded and there would be less benefit from spamming. Also, as you have said, bans would become a lot more meaningful.

There are many threads that could be considered solely "spam" in the vein of "last X you watched/did/listened to" etc. I still post in some of these (especially the music related thread) but I do it because I occasionally enjoy posting in them rather than to boost my post count. I would be perfectly happy to be stripped of all posts in those threads.

These kind of threads can easily be abused due to the fact they do not require any reading and can be as short as one word posts. I don’t think they should contribute towards post count at all.

I've seen one guy who joined a few weeks ago who according to his posts watches 10 feature length films, 25 TV programmes and plays 30 video games per day while also accumulating 500 posts per day :omg: It should not be difficult to catch and warn these people who abuse the system so blatantly.

Given your concerns on the above and your position, do you have the power to make/push through some of the changes that you have suggested?

Ideally, some, yes. But it all boils down to the fact that this ISN'T my site-it's Mirko's. If he likes things like they are, you better believe he's gonna keep them that way. And I'm not going to disrespect the man for liking the way he runs things, so long as he's always open to listen to new ideas [which so far, he's always been more than willing to give an idea a listen--which is better than some admins I've run across]. Given that he gives the thumbs up, then yes, I could do this relatively quickly.

I kinda feel guilty because I've been an admin for about two weeks now, and I've already done so much and want to do more. I don't want to feel like I'm stepping on toes or anything. :(

Tsunulia
08-12-2006, 05:00 PM
Also, a Deathlok thread counts as spam.

Yup. How does a thread about his floor not get closed :huh:

Two Face
08-12-2006, 05:00 PM
:confused:

I replied to this quote

Is the quest for the big post count as bad here as it is on SHH? I post on about 5 other boards regularly, and even more on a non-regular basis, and I swear that SHH is the ONLY site that I've seen put so much stock in post count.

Personally, I think it's dumb to do so. At the risk of sounding like a cliché, it's not about how many you have, but how much the ones you have are worth. Nobody but you cares how big your avatar is, or if you have a sig. I've seen message boards that have been around for 3+ years and, well...:

Iceman/Psylocke
08-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Ideally, some, yes. But it all boils down to the fact that this ISN'T my site-it's Mirko's. If he likes things like they are, you better believe he's gonna keep them that way. And I'm not going to disrespect the man for liking the way he runs things, so long as he's always open to listen to new ideas [which so far, he's always been more than willing to give an idea a listen--which is better than some admins I've run across]. Given that he gives the thumbs up, then yes, I could do this relatively quickly.

I kinda feel guilty because I've been an admin for about two weeks now, and I've already done so much and want to do more. I don't want to feel like I'm stepping on toes or anything. :(I understand where you're coming from. Making suggestions with evidence of who does/doesn't agree (ie mods/posters) with your proposals and being prepared for rejection is the only way to go.

Drakon
08-12-2006, 05:08 PM
Dude get over it, there are more important things in life than you getting pissed about posters, and posts etc....

I know there are. I'm not pissed--just I guess, annoyed. I've got a good life and like where I am.

I like that idea, that way someone doesnt register and then never posts for 6 months and comes pack to have the honor of a 100x100 avatar.

On the second thing about moving games to its own forums. You'd get a dead forum really. People post in game forums for post count (or at least a lot of them do).

Exactly. ;)

If it's a dead forum, then so be it. At least this way, it's not spamming up Community.

I understand where you're coming from. Making suggestions with evidence of who does/doesn't agree (ie mods/posters) with your proposals and being prepared for rejection is the only way to go.

That's what I've been doing so far, and Mirko and Excelsior both keep telling me I'm not doing bad, but you're always gonna be paranoid when you're the new guy at the job.

Themanofbat
08-12-2006, 05:30 PM
My 50th post at Coming Soon.

Five years in the making. :D :D :D

:)

Two Face
08-12-2006, 05:37 PM
My 50th post at Coming Soon.

Five years in the making. :D :D :D

:)


Dude you're slow poster I ever seen, no offence.

Tzarinna
08-12-2006, 05:39 PM
My 50th post at Coming Soon.

Five years in the making. :D :D :D

:)


http://www.toriforum.com/forums/images/smiles/new11.gif

Celebrate,woot,woot :D

Lucky Charms
08-12-2006, 05:44 PM
That's what I've been doing so far, and Mirko and Excelsior both keep telling me I'm not doing bad, but you're always gonna be paranoid when you're the new guy at the job.

Well, there's only one way to erase those fears; MUTINY! :mad:

Alonsovich
08-12-2006, 05:50 PM
these people are called..

i have no girlfriend.

And the ones behind them are called...


..."neither do I"...


:D

Tzarinna
08-12-2006, 05:57 PM
I have no boyfriend,who cares :rolleyes:

Darthphere
08-12-2006, 06:01 PM
I have no boyfriend,who cares :rolleyes:


Sadly, people cant get over the stereotype of nerds being on the internet all day and not having girlfriends.

The Lizard
08-12-2006, 06:09 PM
My 50th post at Coming Soon.

Five years in the making. :D :D :D

:)

Your join date is older than mine here too? Great. :(

Frank Castle
08-12-2006, 07:29 PM
I have no boyfriend,who cares :rolleyes:

Really? Someone so nice, i'd be your boyfriend. :D

















































But i'm 16. :P

triplefive
08-12-2006, 07:33 PM
I've seen one guy who joined a few weeks ago who according to his posts watches 10 feature length films, 25 TV programmes and plays 30 video games per day while also accumulating 500 posts per day :omg: It should not be difficult to catch and warn these people who abuse the system so blatantly.

He also eats like 12 times a day. Not just snacks either. Must be a fatty ;)

jaguarr
08-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Well, ideally, we wouldn't get RID of post counts meaning something. It'd be more of a dual stipulation. Something like this--

Signature--1 Week
Custom Title--2 Weeks and 100 posts
Small Avatar--1 Month and 300 posts
Medium Avatar--3 Month and 1000 posts
Large Avatar--6 Months and 2500 posts

THIS IS NOT EXACT--JUST AN EXAMPLE TO GIVE AN IDEA!




Yeah, all that'd need to be done is moving all these games into a new forum, and disabling posts from adding to your post count.

I like these ideas, Drak. I think they'll work to some extent but the problem is, the idiots who post inane drivel are always going to do what they do. Take away their reasons for being idiots and they'll either keep running on auto-pilot or find new reasons to be idiots. And, the people who fixate on post counts or join dates are always going to find a way to try and establish some sort of caste system based on those things. I know a couple of boards that did away with join dates and post counts a long time ago just to level the playing field and make everyone equal when posting, but that sort of negates the intention of a reward system of offering bigger avatars and such for participation. I think your approach is a good one to limiting some of the more blatant spam and keeping a viable reward system in place.

jag

Morg
08-12-2006, 07:46 PM
Sadly, people cant get over the stereotype of nerds being on the internet all day and not having girlfriends.


Had a girlfriend....until she ran off with my $$$ :angry:

Frank Castle
08-12-2006, 07:53 PM
Lol

Drakon
08-12-2006, 09:15 PM
I like these ideas, Drak. I think they'll work to some extent but the problem is, the idiots who post inane drivel are always going to do what they do. Take away their reasons for being idiots and they'll either keep running on auto-pilot or find new reasons to be idiots. And, the people who fixate on post counts or join dates are always going to find a way to try and establish some sort of caste system based on those things. I know a couple of boards that did away with join dates and post counts a long time ago just to level the playing field and make everyone equal when posting, but that sort of negates the intention of a reward system of offering bigger avatars and such for participation. I think your approach is a good one to limiting some of the more blatant spam and keeping a viable reward system in place.

jag

Thanks. I think I'm just gonna ask Mirko about everything discussed here in this thread. The worst he can do is say no.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 09:17 PM
Are we asking if we can get rid of the post accounts?:(

Drakon
08-12-2006, 09:27 PM
No, post counts will stay. They will not be on threads, so you'd have to go to someone's profile to see them. And it would take more than just achieving a certain post count to get an avatar.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-12-2006, 09:29 PM
Why take them off the threads?:confused:

Will our join dates stay? Is this just happening here or at both sites?

Drakon
08-12-2006, 09:31 PM
This isn't happening at all. It's just an idea. Nothing more, nothing less.

And take them off of threads because that way people will not be able to see them immediately and say " **** you, go get a life with your 554849515649465854 posts" or anything like that. Read back a few pages.

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 09:33 PM
This isn't happening at all. It's just an idea. Nothing more, nothing less.

And take them off of threads because that way people will not be able to see them immediately and say " **** you, go get a life with your 554849515649465854 posts" or anything like that. Read back a few pages.

They can always look in search for more posts by someone (or whoever) and then say it Drak.

- Whirly

DOG LIPS
08-12-2006, 09:37 PM
I think the answer is just giving noobs 10x10 avatars when they sign up. :mad:

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 09:39 PM
I think the answer is just giving noobs 10x10 avatars when they sign up. :mad:

lol, I don't think many people look at Avvys unless they are really funny like yours or really good like Darthpheres or that Pokemon one that someone had.

- Whirly

Drakon
08-12-2006, 09:39 PM
They can always look in search for more posts by someone (or whoever) and then say it Drak.

- Whirly

But then it's not a snappy comeback.

Iceman/Psylocke
08-12-2006, 09:40 PM
I think the answer is just giving noobs 10x10 avatars when they sign up. :mad:How about a written general knowledge examination, rigorous physical endurance test and some electric shock torture before any avvys are handed out?

Mr Lex Luthor
08-12-2006, 09:42 PM
How about a written general knowledge examination, rigorous physical endurance test and some electric shock torture before any avvys are handed out?
They're giving out pixel images, not nuclear warheads.

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 09:43 PM
But then it's not a snappy comeback.

Is anything truly snappy with the delay on a message board? Someone can just go offline like I am now to sleep then post it, it's snappy for them although it could be pages later. I don't think real time is often an issue.

- Whirly

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 09:43 PM
10x10 avatars are just dots......

why not just give out 100x100 avvys from the start?

Mr Lex Luthor
08-12-2006, 09:44 PM
I think the answer is just giving noobs 10x10 avatars when they sign up. :mad:
A glimpse at the future if your suggestion were to come true:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6773/bieldammitcw2.gif

DOG LIPS
08-12-2006, 09:45 PM
A glimpse at the future if your suggestion were to come true:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6773/bieldammitcw2.gif
Pure awesomeness.

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 09:45 PM
A glimpse at the future if your suggestion were to come true:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6773/bieldammitcw2.gif
like i said............dots

Drakon
08-12-2006, 09:46 PM
Is anything truly snappy with the delay on a message board? Someone can just go offline like I am now to sleep then post it, it's snappy for them although it could be pages later. I don't think real time is often an issue.

- Whirly

I can tell you've never been in a fight on SHH.

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 09:48 PM
I can tell you've never been in a fight on SHH.
i have................more than anyone:)

Whirlysplat
08-12-2006, 09:49 PM
I can tell you've never been in a fight on SHH.

I haven't no, I always say, "look take it to PM mate", I try not to get personal with people on the internet it's wasteful.

Anyway goodnight mate

- Whirly.

Mr Lex Luthor
08-12-2006, 09:49 PM
Pure awesomeness.
How your mind works is an enigma.

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 09:51 PM
How your mind works is an enigma.
"Mr.e

.....mys..tery.........enigma.........edward nigma!" - batman forever:(

Tzarinna
08-12-2006, 09:51 PM
lol, I don't think many people look at Avvys unless they are really funny like yours or really good like Darthpheres or that Pokemon one that someone had.

- Whirly

That was Amazing Lee's :D I loved that,he didn't keep it long enough :(

DOG LIPS
08-12-2006, 09:52 PM
"Mr.e

.....mys..tery.........enigma.........edward nigma!" - batman forever:(
*Gag*... Noes. :(:waa:

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 09:54 PM
*Gag*... Noes. :(:waa:
thats a true detective:D

Mr Lex Luthor
08-12-2006, 09:55 PM
"Mr.e

.....mys..tery.........enigma.........edward nigma!" - batman forever:(
You ruined eveything! :angry:

Iceman/Psylocke
08-12-2006, 09:57 PM
"Mr.e

.....mys..tery.........enigma.........edward nigma!" - batman forever:(The sad thing is that was cleverer than anything in the sequel. :(

Iron Man
08-12-2006, 09:57 PM
Post count doesn't matter to me. :D

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 10:00 PM
The sad thing is that was cleverer than anything in the sequel. :(
what about Mr. freezes comebacks?:(

Drakon
08-12-2006, 10:03 PM
I haven't no, I always say, "look take it to PM mate", I try not to get personal with people on the internet it's wasteful.

Anyway goodnight mate

- Whirly.

That's an honourable motion, but sadly, not enough people do it.

Gnight, buddy.

Tsunulia
08-12-2006, 10:46 PM
what about Mr. freezes comebacks?:(

Sing with me! I'm Mr. Icicle, I'm Mr. Cold! I'm Mr. White Christmas, I'm Mr. 10 Below!




Mr. Freeze almost ruined my love for Snow Mizer in that movie :(

darthspielberg
08-12-2006, 10:47 PM
what about Mr. freezes comebacks?:(


Ice to see you, Batman.

xwolverine2
08-12-2006, 10:53 PM
Sing with me! I'm Mr. Icicle, I'm Mr. Cold! I'm Mr. White Christmas, I'm Mr. 10 Below!




Mr. Freeze almost ruined my love for Snow Mizer in that movie :(
freeze in hell batman:(

LanternLight
08-12-2006, 11:39 PM
Yup.

Admittedly, when I first joined SHH, I did it--I was a forum newbie. I posted 1334 times in the "Word Association" thread, and I posted a lot in C4, Extreme Boredom, and the Nightclub . But the further it goes, the more annoying it gets. It's either rewarding stupidity, ignoring brilliance, or sometimes both. Something else that annoys me is using "lol" or something of the like on a forum, but I'll save that rant for another time.
I never posted in C4, EB, and very little in the TB. However, I did make up for it in the Nightclub. God those were the days, about 1500 of my posts on Hype came from that thread. I do like the "What are you listening to thread," but you know that thats due to me being a music junkie, and I like seeing what other people are listening to as well as getting the word out about what I like to listen too...

To be honest I don't pay attention to post count anymore.

I used to back when 3,000 was the number on Hype, but since the new rules for Avatars and such it hasn't been a big deal and in someways I hate having my post count so high for a newbie like me. It makes me look like I spam.

*I don't really..not on Hype*
Heck, I remember when I hit 3K, we threw a party in the Club... And remember back then when people would avoid hitting certain post counts? X-Chick put off hitting 10 k for over a month. MC had his wiped at one point, just because he didn't want that status if I remember right. Do I want a big avvy? Sure, but I don't need it.

Well, ideally, we wouldn't get RID of post counts meaning something. It'd be more of a dual stipulation. Something like this--

Signature--1 Week
Custom Title--2 Weeks and 100 posts
Small Avatar--1 Month and 300 posts
Medium Avatar--3 Month and 1000 posts
Large Avatar--6 Months and 2500 posts

[B]THIS IS NOT EXACT--JUST AN EXAMPLE TO GIVE AN IDEA!




Yeah, all that'd need to be done is moving all these games into a new forum, and disabling posts from adding to your post count.

I really like this idea. I hope that Mirko approves of it. :up:

Lucky Charms
08-12-2006, 11:51 PM
I think the answer is just giving noobs 10x10 avatars when they sign up. :mad:

I remember when I first registered at the Hype.

I had a 30x30 avatar, and I was damn proud to have it!

Then they changed the rules, and I had to "earn" it. :mad:

SsM
08-13-2006, 12:14 AM
I remember when I registered back in 2002? on the hype....... and posted like 3 times ;x then I didnt post anymore.... and I forgot my Pw :(


R.I.P.

SpidermanTC

In§anE
08-13-2006, 12:21 AM
Yup.

Admittedly, when I first joined SHH, I did it--I was a forum newbie. I posted 1334 times in the "Word Association" thread, and I posted a lot in C4, Extreme Boredom, and the Nightclub [but those were for the conversations, as opposed to the post count--I still talk to most of my buddies from those three]. But the further it goes, the more annoying it gets. It's either rewarding stupidity, ignoring brilliance, or sometimes both. Something else that annoys me is using "lol" or something of the like on a forum, but I'll save that rant for another time.

how does it feel to be one of us? here in the relm of movies, you are not a God:nono:

just kidding, dont ban me sir :(

SsM
08-13-2006, 12:32 AM
one thing I do mind even though I'm not a mod.. I really think the quadruple+ posting in "the last song you listened to" thread should be taken care of. One guy had over 15 posts in a row.. of just names of songs.

Drakon
08-13-2006, 12:34 AM
how does it feel to be one of us? here in the relm of movies, you are not a God:nono:

just kidding, dont ban me sir :(

I was never a god to begin with--just an admin. I go to so many forums, it's nothing new to not be able to ban people. Out of 20 forums I've been part of over the last 3 years, I've been moderator at 7 and admin of 5.

In§anE
08-13-2006, 12:36 AM
well being kicke dout of comicbloc because of "creator bashing" really makes me miss SHH and the freedom we have

LanternLight
08-13-2006, 12:36 AM
What really irks me is say someone posts a song, I post the one I'm listening to, they post another; say November Rain (a good nine minute song), mine finishes in three minutes, so I post a new one, and before November Rain could possibly be over, he posts another. Yet back in the day, I got warned by Superman (when he was a mod) for having three posts in a row in that thread fifteen minutes apart for each at 4:30 in the morning.

SsM
08-13-2006, 12:36 AM
I think we have too much freedom :/

LanternLight
08-13-2006, 12:37 AM
well being kicke dout of comicbloc because of "creator bashing" really makes me miss SHH and the freedom we haveWhat creator? :o

SsM
08-13-2006, 12:38 AM
What really irks me is say someone posts a song, I post the one I'm listening to, they post another; say November Rain (a good nine minute song), mine finishes in three minutes, so I post a new one, and before November Rain could possibly be over, he posts another. Yet back in the day, I got warned by Superman (when he was a mod) for having three posts in a row in that thread fifteen minutes apart for each at 4:30 in the morning.


I dont remember who it was.. but this one guy I SWEAR. "listened" to like 18 songs in ten minutes or so :x

In§anE
08-13-2006, 12:43 AM
well in an interviw, Dwane Mcduffie took a stab at Geoff johns, I said he sounds like a Douche, they deleted my comment, no warning whatsoever, so i ask why, they say you cant bash any creator, if they attend comicbloc or not, i explained what i ment and i said ow much i enjoy his work and that i just thought that he came off as a douche when he said that, i'm banned until the 15th, i myspaced Geoff telling him what happened and that i love his work but his mods can go **** themselfs and i'm not coming back (he knows me on myspace, he's messaged me a few times so i'm hoping he remembers me) but the mods there dont pm you, they post every thing a shh mod would post in a pm on the reg page, so you have no idea what you did wrong until you search your subs.

DOG LIPS
08-13-2006, 12:43 AM
I dont remember who it was.. but this one guy I SWEAR. "listened" to like 18 songs in ten minutes or so :x
Maybe I listen to them in fast forward, OK? :mad:

SsM
08-13-2006, 12:44 AM
It Wasnt you!!!! it was a newer person.,...

btw.. metallica chipmunk style= aweeeeesome

xwolverine2
08-13-2006, 02:07 AM
I think we have too much freedom :/
V says otherwise

In§anE
08-13-2006, 02:09 AM
It Wasnt you!!!! it was a newer person.,...

btw.. metallica chipmunk style= aweeeeesome
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1935/1csnonove8.gifyou lie

Tzarinna
08-13-2006, 02:18 AM
You're so proud of your new icon :P

In§anE
08-13-2006, 02:21 AM
damn skippy

Morg
08-13-2006, 02:56 AM
A glimpse at the future if your suggestion were to come true:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6773/bieldammitcw2.gif


Nice pic ;) I could use a nudie and no one would noticed :P

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-13-2006, 02:57 AM
Well, we would now because you said you would.:rolleyes::P

Morg
08-13-2006, 03:01 AM
Don't need too, got my Elisha pic :P

In§anE
08-13-2006, 03:01 AM
i'm tempted to do this

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-13-2006, 03:02 AM
Pft. Nice save Morg.:P

xwolverine2
08-13-2006, 03:03 AM
i'm tempted to do this
"do it!"-emperor sidious

Tzarinna
08-13-2006, 03:03 AM
i'm tempted to do this


Step away from the booze :nono:

In§anE
08-13-2006, 03:04 AM
Don't need too, got my Elisha pic :P

Momma not proud of her pussy son http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1935/1csnonove8.gif

Morg
08-13-2006, 03:05 AM
Step away from the booze :nono:


Hell no, that's why I like Vegas, free booze :D

In§anE
08-13-2006, 03:07 AM
she was telling me

Tolkien
08-13-2006, 04:23 AM
Is the quest for the big post count as bad here as it is on SHH? I post on about 5 other boards regularly, and even more on a non-regular basis, and I swear that SHH is the ONLY site that I've seen put so much stock in post count.

Personally, I think it's dumb to do so. At the risk of sounding like a cliché, it's not about how many you have, but how much the ones you have are worth. Nobody but you cares how big your avatar is, or if you have a sig. I've seen message boards that have been around for 3+ years and, well...


Threads: 1,662, Posts: 19,976, Members: 71
Welcome to our newest member, dev_tej_kohli



Threads: 12,099, Posts: 122,433, Members: 3,119
Welcome to our newest member, MatrixNeo


[Aside---dev_tej_kohli is a bot.]

I mean, maybe I'm crazy, but basing things off of post count is just crazy. That's how the really good posters get unnoticed, because while they don't say much, what they do say is lost in a bunch of "post count booster" activites.


/end rant


I actually know EXACTLY what you mean. I use to post on JoBlo.com back in 1999 and by 2001 I already hated posting there. People started grouping together, and forming groups there based on the status of your post count. Just like Cinema Confidential's forums. I use to post there too until the place fell apart. Post count ruled that message board as well, and if you got to the status of Studio Executive, you were considered one of the gang. Anyone else below that was a newbie, even though they had over 1,000 posts and had been there for many months past. I know how it felt from both sides. Today, I just post on message boards when I want to get into a discussion with someone about something that I see as interesting. I don't bother with post counts anymore. It's a waste.

Alien
08-13-2006, 10:08 AM
I find it quite funny that this is a thread about people that post too much and it's got 8 pages in less than 24 hours. I'm not reading it all coz, well, I have better things to do, but I know from the few pages I have read, that it's not all A+ stuff. Loads of posts for the sake of posting that don't add to the conversation.

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 10:11 AM
I find it quite funny that this is a thread about people that post too much and it's got 8 pages in less than 24 hours. I'm not reading it all coz, well, I have better things to do, but I know from the few pages I have read, that it's not all A+ stuff. Loads of posts for the sake of posting that don't add to the conversation.


Welcome to the internet.:confused:

Alien
08-13-2006, 10:19 AM
Welcome to the internet.:confused:
Thanx. A wee bit late but thanx. I have been on the net since about 1997 but it's always good to be welcomed. :confused:


Damn! Now I'm not adding to the conversation :angry:

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 10:21 AM
I find it quite funny that this is a thread about people that post too much and it's got 8 pages in less than 24 hours. I'm not reading it all coz, well, I have better things to do, but I know from the few pages I have read, that it's not all A+ stuff. Loads of posts for the sake of posting that don't add to the conversation.

It happens over on SHH as well, but thankfully there are some dedicated "chat" threads (read "spam threads") for people who like to chatter incessantly about not much of anything to do so in, so not as many threads get defiled so quickly. Sometimes they get derailed a bit after a topic becomes exhausted, but the banter is usually a tad wittier and poignant than what you've been subjected to this weekend.

jag

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 10:22 AM
It happens over on SHH as well, but thankfully there are some dedicated "chat" threads (read "spam threads") for people who like to chatter incessantly about not much of anything to do so in, so not as many threads get defiled so quickly. Sometimes they get derailed a bit after a topic becomes exhausted, but the banter is usually a tad wittier and poignant than what you've been subjected to this weekend.

jag


Wow, Jag, damn I didnt know it bothered you so much. Especially all the times we would go off topic on threads.


Jag caught feelings.

Alien
08-13-2006, 10:24 AM
It happens over on SHH as well, but thankfully there are some dedicated "chat" threads (read "spam threads") for people who like to chatter incessantly about not much of anything to do so in, so not as many threads get defiled so quickly. Sometimes they get derailed a bit after a topic becomes exhausted, but the banter is usually a tad wittier and poignant than what you've been subjected to this weekend.

jag
We have one of those threads... What's on Your Mind: The Saga (http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6144)... How meany do you need? :confused:

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 10:36 AM
Wow, Jag, damn I didnt know it bothered you so much. Especially all the times we would go off topic on threads.


Jag caught feelings.

There's a difference between going off topic, though, and just posting pure crap. Going off topic can still be done with a modicum of intelligence and relevancy, and that happens often over at SHH and is often pretty damn funny to boot (not to mention useful for completely derailing what are basically spam threads, to discourage the starters from doing it again in the future). I'm talking about just mindless conversation with absolutely no point to it. It's just noise. I guess I can't fathom how anyone would find that entertaining in any capacity. It's interacting without interacting or having any sort of real exchange. Like 200+ pages of the same kind of interaction you get when people pass each other on the street and one says "How's it going?" and the other automatically replies "Good. You?" as they pass. It's empty and meaningless. I guess I value something a little more than that when I engage people in conversation so perhaps the appeal of this is lost on me. This is why I stay out of the Lounge for the most part.

We have one of those threads... What's on Your Mind: The Saga... How meany do you need?

Well, Malice was smart enough to set up a thread that would contain most of that, because he knew of the tendency of people to spam threads. You'd be amazed at how many full blown spam threads there are over at SHH, though, particularly in the Community section. It's mind-boggling.

jag

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 10:39 AM
There's a difference between going off topic, though, and just posting pure crap. Going off topic can still be done with a modicum of intelligence and relevancy, and that happens often over at SHH and is often pretty damn funny to boot (not to mention useful for completely derailing what are basically spam threads, to discourage the starters from doing it again in the future). I'm talking about just mindless conversation with absolutely no point to it. It's just noise. I guess I can't fathom how anyone would find that entertaining in any capacity. It's interacting without interacting or having any sort of real exchange. Like 200+ pages of the same kind of interaction you get when people pass each other on the street and one says "How's it going?" and the other automatically replies "Good. You?" as they pass. It's empty and meaningless. I guess I value something a little more than that when I engage people in conversation so perhaps the appeal of this is lost on me. This is why I stay out of the Lounge for the most part.


Nikka, you caught feelings.:(


:D

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 10:40 AM
Nikka, you caught feelings.:(


:D

It's worse. I caught intelligence. :csgrin:

jag

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 10:43 AM
It's worse. I caught intelligence. :csgrin:

jag



Really, its just you becoming an old grumpy man. Youre like the old man that yells at kids "Get off my porch!"

The WupZter
08-13-2006, 10:43 AM
You know, an easy way to get your post count up is to visit the Trivia forum and post your heart out.

hades
08-13-2006, 10:44 AM
You know, it's nice not seeing threads like " what did you last eat, what are you listning to, three word story," al those kind of threads filling up the whole front page of the community. Unlike Shh...

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 10:45 AM
Really, its just you becoming an old grumpy man. Youre like the old man that yells at kids "Get off my porch!"

I wouldn't need to do that, because I would booby trap the lawn and the porch. :)

jag

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 10:47 AM
You know, it's nice not seeing threads like " what did you last eat, what are you listning to, three word story," al those kind of threads filling up the whole front page of the community. Unlike Shh...


Agreed, which is why I like Drak's idea of quarantining all those kinds of threads to their own little forum where people can post in them to their hearts content and it won't effect their post count (which I suspect will kill that special little forum in about 1-2 months). Those threads are endless flows of the type of pure crap posting that I was bemoaning earlier.

jag

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 10:50 AM
Agreed, which is why I like Drak's idea of quarantining all those kinds of threads to their own little forum where people can post in them to their hearts content and it won't effect their post count (which I suspect will kill that special little forum in about 1-2 months). Those threads are endless flows of the type of pure crap posting that I was bemoaning earlier.

jag


We really need a political forum too. Im serious.

LanternLight
08-13-2006, 10:51 AM
Music forum :mad:

hades
08-13-2006, 10:51 AM
We really need a political forum too. Im serious.
I want a music forum....:(

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 10:53 AM
We really need a political forum too. Im serious.


That's about 1/3 of the discussion over in Community at SHH, though. Music threads take another 1/4 of it, and then there are the news posts and then at least 1/4 of it are spam threads. I've enjoyed the music forum over here at CS this weekend, but if you moved Music and Politics to their own forums and then gave the spam threads their own place, Community would be dead.

jag

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 10:54 AM
That's about 1/3 of the discussion over in Community at SHH, though. Music threads take another 1/4 of it, and then there are the news posts and then at least 1/4 of it are spam threads. I've enjoyed the music forum over here at CS this weekend, but if you moved Music and Politics to their own forums and then gave the spam threads their own place, Community would be dead.

jag


Thats a bad thing? There will still be plenty of GAH's sexual advice threads, KD's newest exploits, Deathlok's crossdressing/home improvement threads, oh look this video is funny threads, random news articles threads.

hades
08-13-2006, 10:56 AM
That's about 1/3 of the discussion over in Community at SHH, though. Music threads take another 1/4 of it, and then there are the news posts and then at least 1/4 of it are spam threads. I've enjoyed the music forum over here at CS this weekend, but if you moved Music and Politics to their own forums and then gave the spam threads their own place, Community would be dead.

jag
Nah, I don't think the Community would be dead. Probably not as busy, but it would be more casual and lounge like. Uh...and while we're at adding more sub forums, I think we should have one for dating advice also.

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 10:58 AM
I'm just saying I can see Mirko not wanting to make Politics and Music forums because "that's what Community is for". That's been his stance in the past on the subject. There's a limitation on how many forums the board will handle, so they have to make sacrifices and that's one of 'em, I guess. Personally, I'd love to be able to discuss music without having to wade through all the pages of crap posts that float to the top in Community.

jag

hades
08-13-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm just saying I can see Mirko not wanting to make Politics and Music forums because "that's what Community is for". That's been his stance in the past on the subject. There's a limitation on how many forums the board will handle, so they have to make sacrifices and that's one of 'em, I guess. Personally, I'd love to be able to discuss music without having to wade through all the pages of crap posts that float to the top in Community.

jagIt just doesn't make sense there's a game forum but no music forum.

jaguarr
08-13-2006, 11:01 AM
It just doesn't make sense there's a game forum but no music forum.


Yeah, the fact that superhero movies have soundtracks that are released and sold just like video games and therefore warrants a music forum has been the crux of many an argument for making a music forum and Mirko has shot it down every single time.

jag

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 11:03 AM
Yeah, the fact that superhero movies have soundtracks that are released and sold just like video games and therefore warrants a music forum has been the crux of many an argument for making a music forum and Mirko has shot it down every single time.

jag


You know theres only one thing we can do.....eliminate Mirko.

Drakon
08-13-2006, 11:49 AM
If you strike him down, he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Darthphere
08-13-2006, 12:05 PM
If you strike him down, he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.


I saw this coming.:nono:

Whirlysplat
08-13-2006, 03:06 PM
That's about 1/3 of the discussion over in Community at SHH, though. Music threads take another 1/4 of it, and then there are the news posts and then at least 1/4 of it are spam threads. I've enjoyed the music forum over here at CS this weekend, but if you moved Music and Politics to their own forums and then gave the spam threads their own place, Community would be dead.

jag

A more serious debate/discussion forum would be nice Jag, I'm with DP on that. Other sites have seperated Community and it's worked. I think a lot of people would enjoy a less serious forum, which was modded a little less. It wouold remove all the attention Hollies (I mean whores sorry) from the serious threads unless they were trollin.

- Whirly

Storm Crow
08-13-2006, 03:07 PM
do i want to spam to get my avy/sig back? hmm...

Themanofbat
08-13-2006, 03:14 PM
A more serious debate/discussion forum would be nice Jag, I'm with DP on that. Other sites have seperated Community and it's worked. I think a lot of people would enjoy a less serious forum, which was modded a little less. It wouold remove all the attention Hollies (I mean whores sorry) from the serious threads unless they were trollin.

- Whirly

True, but that would mean an overall crackdown on the mods to do their payless & thankless jobs even MORE... because if you think the trolls & the spammers would stay away from a "serious" forum, I have a bridge for sale somewhere in Brooklyn...

Prysm
08-13-2006, 03:22 PM
Agreed, which is why I like Drak's idea of quarantining all those kinds of threads to their own little forum where people can post in them to their hearts content and it won't effect their post count (which I suspect will kill that special little forum in about 1-2 months). Those threads are endless flows of the type of pure crap posting that I was bemoaning earlier.

jag

We've been wanting that since the original issue with the association threads.

However the no post count vs. the post count iidea is interesting, the way I see it:

So they spam and get an avatar/sig/title, who really cares if that's what they're going for?

If they spam and don't get post count..they'll spam somewhere else on the forum.


That's about 1/3 of the discussion over in Community at SHH, though. Music threads take another 1/4 of it, and then there are the news posts and then at least 1/4 of it are spam threads. I've enjoyed the music forum over here at CS this weekend, but if you moved Music and Politics to their own forums and then gave the spam threads their own place, Community would be dead.

jag

Every Mod and most posters say that? It's a community, it'll still be there, no one can stop it. Who's to say it will anyway, especially with a forum as large as SHH!

True, but that would mean an overall crackdown on the mods to do their payless & thankless jobs even MORE... because if you think the trolls & the spammers would stay away from a "serious" forum, I have a bridge for sale somewhere in Brooklyn...

Maybe more mods? :P

I jest..I jest....

That is very true, isn't that why they got rid of the Political Forum in the first place?

DOG LIPS
08-13-2006, 03:32 PM
Maybe more mods? :P

Brodie for Mod!

SsM
08-13-2006, 03:33 PM
doglips.. you should totally get on hack and slash for his crazy postcount 7k in less than a month is rediculous :0


I'M SORRY ITS NONE OF MY BUSINESS PLEAZE FORGIOVE ME!~

Whirlysplat
08-13-2006, 03:33 PM
True, but that would mean an overall crackdown on the mods to do their payless & thankless jobs even MORE... because if you think the trolls & the spammers would stay away from a "serious" forum, I have a bridge for sale somewhere in Brooklyn...

I take your point but if one forum call it, an open topic forum was a bit more lenient. Then the "Serious forum" might be able to have a higher mod presence. I don't know it's just a thought. It's not that much of a troll kingdom, however there are some trolls who seem to take great pleasure disrupting pseudo serious threads. A little levity is fine but, I've seen members just come in and make an extreme flame and leave again. In fact the members who do that seem to do it a lot, they also do it to the members most likely to respond, create a feeding frenzy and sit back and laugh. I mean it can be funny, I just wish they did it less.

- Whirly

squeekness
08-13-2006, 03:35 PM
doglips.. you should totally get on hack and slash for his crazy postcount 7k in less than a month is rediculous :0


I'M SORRY ITS NONE OF MY BUSINESS PLEAZE FORGIOVE ME!~Hack and Slash is in Gamma a lot and he doesn't spam. He just chats a lot like the rest of us do. :)

Prysm
08-13-2006, 03:36 PM
doglips.. you should totally get on hack and slash for his crazy postcount 7k in less than a month is rediculous :0


I'M SORRY ITS NONE OF MY BUSINESS PLEAZE FORGIVE ME!~

Grovelling is so demeaning. That's why I never do it. 'Course..look at what happened to me. :P ;)

SsM
08-13-2006, 03:37 PM
Hack and Slash is in Gamma a lot and he doesn't spam. He just chats a lot like the rest of us do. :) dude eats like a million times a day though :d you should see that last thing you ate thread.. he must be HUGE

Prysm
08-13-2006, 03:43 PM
dude eats like a million times a day though :d you should see that last thing you ate thread.. he must be HUGE

There is a fine line between spamming and conversation.

Spamming: anything where the prime focus won't last more than one post, not including various people quoting it.

Conversation: Something which allows other peole to be included and lasts longer than one other post.

Most posts in the Lounge I see as Spam, not all just most.

"I'm bored"

"My feet itch"

etc..etc...

If I could go in there, talk about a movie, CD, game, comic or role play of some sort I'd be fine but it normally get's interuppted by one of the younger posters and then flows off into random spammy posts.

SsM
08-13-2006, 03:44 PM
my feet itch?? wtf, someone didnt really post that

Prysm
08-13-2006, 03:46 PM
my feet itch?? wtf, someone didnt really post that


Someone did....once..I remember seeing it a while back in the Lounge, it's burned to memory because that day I lost all hope for any intelligent 'chat' thread in Community. I get more out of the Rex Mundi thread than I do from the Lounge and I only lurk there.

squeekness
08-13-2006, 03:58 PM
There is a fine line between spamming and conversation.

Spamming: anything where the prime focus won't last more than one post, not including various people quoting it.

Conversation: Something which allows other peole to be included and lasts longer than one other post.

Most posts in the Lounge I see as Spam, not all just most.

"I'm bored"

"My feet itch"

etc..etc...

If I could go in there, talk about a movie, CD, game, comic or role play of some sort I'd be fine but it normally get's interuppted by one of the younger posters and then flows off into random spammy posts.We talk about comics and food a lot. :D

Drakon
08-14-2006, 12:12 AM
There's gonna be a thread and a poll on this when we get back to SHH.

SsM
08-14-2006, 12:21 AM
There's gonna be a thread and a poll on this when we get back to SHH.
cool beans 0.o

I guess.......direct me to it whenever we get back home

Tornado
08-14-2006, 12:35 AM
I cared about my post count until I got my custom title back in the middle of 2004. Now I post when I've got news on Smallville/Lost/whatever, or when I have something relevant to say (except for this post I guess).

HeadHunter
08-14-2006, 12:53 AM
My counts big cause I have been here for a while and a few years ago I spent almost 24 hours a day on the site posting with people!

SnoBorderZero
08-14-2006, 12:55 AM
The SHH people are the ones who just post to raise their counts more than anything.

Tsunulia
08-14-2006, 12:58 AM
The SHH people are the ones who just post to raise their counts more than anything.


Please don't generalize all of us :( Not all of us are as bad at posting as you may think.

SsM
08-14-2006, 01:02 AM
Please don't generalize all of us :( Not all of us are as bad at posting as you may think.


well I find it hard for them to believe that.. Considering most of us have over 100 posts in a few days :/ and nearly 5k posts in three day timespan..

Darth Elektra
08-14-2006, 01:06 AM
these people are called..

i have no girlfriend.


lol.:cool:

Tornado
08-14-2006, 01:22 AM
Please don't generalize all of us :( Not all of us are as bad at posting as you may think.

No offense, but while raising your post count may not be your primary objective you do have about 200 posts in a span of two days, give or take a few hours.

Ultimate Green Goblin
08-14-2006, 01:34 AM
Yeah, not all of us spam at SHH or here.

I'm proud of my post account at SHH. I've been there for two years and it's almost to 9,000. Nothing wrong with being proud.

The Squirrel
08-14-2006, 09:50 AM
We have people at SHH who have only been there for less than a month and have reached like 6,000+. About three weeks actually. Some can get like 30,000+ in a couple of months.

I've been there since September 2004 and I have like 8,600 or something. Is that normal?:confused:


I've been there since Dec 2003 and I'm still under 4,000.

JokerNick
08-14-2006, 09:50 AM
2 posts, including this one!

Wilhelm's Cream
08-14-2006, 09:54 AM
Yeah, not all of us spam at SHH or here.

I'm proud of my post account at SHH. I've been there for two years and it's almost to 9,000. Nothing wrong with being proud.
Jesus said "Be not boastful." The sin of pride is an abomination!:eek:

lastfusion
08-14-2006, 10:37 AM
^lol

Wilhelm's Cream
08-14-2006, 11:15 AM
He SAID it!:eek:

I think we're supposed to...pluck his eyes out now or something.:(

Lactophiliac
08-14-2006, 11:40 AM
If we are talking about things we'd like to see, I wouldn't mind a "Vs. Thread" Forum, where all Vs. Threads could be moved, maybe even put the DTL in there. That way people that don't like Vs. Threads don't have to see them all the time, and people that love them have a place to go.

Also for people that like Music and want a forum we could have like a "Misc. Entertainment" section that has:

Misc. Music
Misc. Television (Which we already have)
Misc. Videogames (Which we already have)
Misc. Moives (Which we already have)

spoarz_tm
08-14-2006, 11:43 AM
To be honest, I don't really care about my post count. I registered at SHH in December 2005, and I've only recently just passed 3,000.

Whirlysplat
08-14-2006, 02:58 PM
If we are talking about things we'd like to see, I wouldn't mind a "Vs. Thread" Forum, where all Vs. Threads could be moved, maybe even put the DTL in there. That way people that don't like Vs. Threads don't have to see them all the time, and people that love them have a place to go.

Also for people that like Music and want a forum we could have like a "Misc. Entertainment" section that has:

Misc. Music
Misc. Television (Which we already have)
Misc. Videogames (Which we already have)
Misc. Moives (Which we already have)

Vs. Forums cause a lot of propblems for moderators and admin, I know of one which is just a sock and troll fest.

- Whirly

Tsunulia
08-14-2006, 03:37 PM
No offense, but while raising your post count may not be your primary objective you do have about 200 posts in a span of two days, give or take a few hours.


True but I have primarily stuck to our evacuee thread ;)

Dr. Victor Lehnsherr
08-14-2006, 03:58 PM
I used to spam all the time. I posted on all the game threads. Now, I couldn't care less. I hardly even look at my post count anymore.