Pirates 3 Spoiler(?) Thread

[Catechumen]

I found these pics at random places...they might be spoiler pics, but I don't know yet;

http://wherestherum.com/potcspoilerchow1.jpg
Asian pirates...and Johnny decked out in Asian gear - whaddya think?

Here's the plot outline for the 3rd one:
Elizabeth is captured by the pirate Sao-Feng, while more problems surface and other rescues must be staged.
(Does that sound vaguely familiar?!;) )

It's apparently gonna be called 'Pirates Of The Caribbean: The World's End', and it's starring Yun-Fat Chow as Sao-Feng. It's also starring Geoffrey Rush (Barbossa) AND Bill Nighy (Davy Jones)...which means that they still must have survived!

[Catechumen]

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/strathychick/potc3001.jpg
Sorry, here's Johnny - the pic was too big to post with the other one.

[Andrey83]

Still the compass! :) And the pistol is there, but new hat and new sword; Awsome outfit though :)

are you sure barbossa is back, and Davy Jones too? How sure? I meen, it would be awsome

[Catechumen]

^Well, I checked the cast list on imdb, and it said that they'd be playing those characters. Wouldn't it be cool, though!
I wonder why Sparrow is dressed up...guess we'll find out soon enough:)

[Andrey83]

Whatever the reason is, this pic does at least confirm that the compass will play a role in the 3rd one as well. Thats one thing at least :)

Edit: And imdb isnt very reliable. For a while Rush was on the cast list for the second movie. Dont think that is happening. It may be true for the third one though. We'll see :)

[Catechumen]

Yeah, but he could be back UNDEAD!!!...lol;)

Yeah - the compass...he kept it at the end of POTC:1, so what part will it play in 2 and 3? Or will it just be a keepsake. Maybe that's what the gun is too.

[Andrey83]

In the trailer for the second movie he's using it to find the dead chest i think. Not sure how as it points to the island that noone can find and not the dead chest. We'll see i guess :)

[FilmJerk]

is that chow yun fat in the first pic?

[Andrey83]

Yup.

[Catechumen]

In the trailer for the second movie he's using it to find the dead chest i think. Not sure how as it points to the island that noone can find and not the dead chest. We'll see i guess :)
Well maybe the compass points to things that Sparrow needs/wants to find - things that others can't find for him, or something. Maybe it's infused with black pirate magic:P

[FilmJerk]

nevermind

[Catechumen]

Pardon?

[FilmJerk]

a little bit of the plot from POTC 3
http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2006/06/16/3073.aspx

[Andrey83]

So its Barbossa & Jack & Will VS. Norrington & Sau Feng & Davy Jones & Lord Cutler..hmmmm

I predict a 3 ships vs. 4 ships end battle. That would be awsome :)

[Catechumen]

So its Barbossa & Jack & Will VS. Norrington & Sau Feng & Davy Jones & Lord Cutler..hmmmm:)
I predict a 3 ships vs. 4 ships end battle. That would be awsome
That would be awesome! I wonder when they'll put out the proper cast list for No.3.
I saw the trailer (for pirates 2) on TV for first time (I've seen the trailer billions of times on the net!) yesterday! YAY!
Do you guys in US/UK have the promotional M&Ms for the movie?

[RedVader 2004]

Well its not so hard to fathum that Barbossa may return for its certainly was left open for when the Monkey became a skeleton again. It also is not too surprising that they waited a movie to bring him back. To set up him and Davy Jones team up.
My guess is that it will be Jack, Will, Sau Feng, Elizabeth, Bootstrap Bill V/S Davy Jones, Barbossa, Norrington and Cutler.

[Andrey83]

The reason why I dont see Barbossa teaming up with Davy Jones is because I Barbossa vs. Jack would be the same as the first movie. It would be a great change if the two actually had to work together to bring down Davy Jones.

[Catechumen]

^That'd be cool. Also, if Will's father is still alive, it could be them together + him.

[mastermov8]

it be nice to see how they are gonna use supernatural elements with chinese pirates...whats Chi yun Fat gonna be...a chinese dragon...i mean cool idea but im seriously doubting how there gonna keep the interest with the third one.

[halo7]

That would be awesome! I wonder when they'll put out the proper cast list for No.3.
I saw the trailer (for pirates 2) on TV for first time (I've seen the trailer billions of times on the net!) yesterday! YAY!
Do you guys in US/UK have the promotional M&Ms for the movie?

Yeah we do.

[Frizzo the Clown]

All my store sells are W&W's.

[Catechumen]

Well, I'm sure if you ask the nice serving attendants, they'll get you some M&Ms...;)

[Catechumen]

I found some more plot summaries for no.3 on imdb:

"As the age of piracy comes to a close, Captain Jack Sparrow, Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann must sail off the edge of the map, navigate treachery and betrayal, and make their final alliances for one last decisive battle. Our heroes must face Lord Cutler Beckett, Davy Jones and Admiral James Norrington in a titanic showdown that could eliminate the freedom-loving pirates from the seven seas -- forever."
and...
"The Golden Age of Piracy is finally at its end. The East India Trading Company has amassed an enormous fleet with one purpose in mind: riding the waters of all pirates. In this final battle for control of the Seven Seas, allegiances will be tested, friendships betrayed, and nothing is as it seems. There are heroes on both sides, but just how far will some go to obtain power?"

And here's part of an article about Johnny Depp -

"Rather innocently, the first Pirates film just felt very intimate to me," he told The Times magazine. "It got more and more grand as time went on. This time it is totally, utterly Jerry Bruckheimer" - the notoriously hands-on blockbuster producer who also gave us Con-Air and Armageddon - "and everything's in, the kitchen sink, everything. Working on a Jerry Bruckheimer production is a different animal altogether."

Should we be worried?

[Catechumen]

And Keith Richards may (finally!) be making a cameo appearance as Jack's dad:
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/714/714538p1.html
XD!

[Sora Kahn]

I found some more plot summaries for no.3 on imdb:

"As the age of piracy comes to a close, Captain Jack Sparrow, Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann must sail off the edge of the map, navigate treachery and betrayal, and make their final alliances for one last decisive battle. Our heroes must face Lord Cutler Beckett, Davy Jones and Admiral James Norrington in a titanic showdown that could eliminate the freedom-loving pirates from the seven seas -- forever."
and...
"The Golden Age of Piracy is finally at its end. The East India Trading Company has amassed an enormous fleet with one purpose in mind: riding the waters of all pirates. In this final battle for control of the Seven Seas, allegiances will be tested, friendships betrayed, and nothing is as it seems. There are heroes on both sides, but just how far will some go to obtain power?"

And here's part of an article about Johnny Depp -



Should we be worried?

Hmm. That does have me worried also. What made Pirates so cool is that unlike the other recent sagas, it stayed more simple and was about adventure instead of trying to be some giant epic movie series. It was like a breathe of fresh air.

So yeah, that is something to be worried about. If Pirates of the Caribbean tries to go too big, too grand, and try to take itself too seriously, the elements that made the first movie great will totally evaporate and would result into a train wreck.

I was really hoping this series could be in the style of Indiana Jones. You know fun, simple, and filled with adventure. But by the way it sounds, they're trying to take a Matrix route.

[spide-ed]

Hmm. That does have me worried also. What made Pirates so cool is that unlike the other recent sagas, it stayed more simple and was about adventure instead of trying to be some giant epic movie series. It was like a breathe of fresh air.

So yeah, that is something to be worried about. If Pirates of the Caribbean tries to go too big, too grand, and try to take itself too seriously, the elements that made the first movie great will totally evaporate and would result into a train wreck.

I was really hoping this series could be in the style of Indiana Jones. You know fun, simple, and filled with adventure. But by the way it sounds, they're trying to take a Matrix route.

Yeh i think your right...which is dissapointing.

On a different note, i wonder how Chow Yun fat will fit in to number 3?

[RedVader 2004]

Why does Jack and Will have a sword fight in Dead Mans chest. Is it because Jack kissed Elizabeth or is it because Will stole Jacks compus. I know they are also fighting Norrinton at the same time.

[Sora Kahn]

^Are you sure they're fighting eachother? I thought they are fighting Norrington? But if they're fighting eachother then that's pretty interesting.

[Catechumen]

Why does Jack and Will have a sword fight in Dead Mans chest. Is it because Jack kissed Elizabeth or is it because Will stole Jacks compus. I know they are also fighting Norrinton at the same time.
I can't remember that...I think Will and Jack are actually fighting Will's dad - cos they think he's a baddie. I remember being confused, but found out what was happening somewhere...
But anyway, this is a Pirates 3 thread, and there is one for No.2...

[RedVader 2004]

Ok since this is a 3 thread now are we sure about Barbossa aka Geoffrey Rush. The Monkey is back in the second. So sure Barbossa is back for 3. Now also i heard that Cho Yung Fatts character will be a major baddie and a kinda Dragon undead pirate. Being Chinese and all.

I heard rumors that Salma Heyak will play Jacks sister in Pirates 3. I however also heard that the character played by Naomi Harris
Will end up being Jacks sister.

[Catechumen]

^Arghh...a full-on family affair...not good, not good!!!

[darthspielberg]

there was a IMDB rumor a while back that there was a character, a little girl with the last name of Sparrow. As to her relation to Jack, nothing was said. all references have since been removed. Perhaps she wil be in At Worlds End, but who knows.

[darthspielberg]

Why does Jack and Will have a sword fight in Dead Mans chest. Is it because Jack kissed Elizabeth or is it because Will stole Jacks compus. I know they are also fighting Norrinton at the same time.

It's very very complicated.

if you really want to know, read below.

Jack wants the key to Davey Jones chest so he can control Davey Jones and his giant "beastie", Will wants it so he can stab the heart inside, thus killing Jones and setting his dad, who because of a foolish wager is eternally bound to Jones, free, and Norrington wants it because if he brings it to the East Indian Trading Company, who desires it to make them the ruling power in the seas, he will be freed of charges set against him (for letting Jack get away) and given his status back. Jack: Selfish Will:Noble Norrington:Selfisly Willing

[Sora Kahn]

^Very interesting. This whole angle with Will, Jack, and Norrington might make the movie even more interesting. Each one has an agenda of their own.

[Catechumen]

^It could add a cool dynamic.

[vader519]

Well I saw the movie today and it makes sense now.

We do in face know that Geffory Rush aka Captain Barbosa will be in Pirates 3 after his cameo in Dead Man's Curse. When you see him, and how he appears, it totally sets up Pirates 3. I'm not going to tell you how he appears or where in the movie he appears, I will just tell you see the movies. I loved it when he came out.

[Catechumen]

I'm going to see Pirates 2 today...:D

[Glordreen]

cant wait for Pirates 3.

[Comicbook-guy]

Hmm. That does have me worried also. What made Pirates so cool is that unlike the other recent sagas, it stayed more simple and was about adventure instead of trying to be some giant epic movie series. It was like a breathe of fresh air.

So yeah, that is something to be worried about. If Pirates of the Caribbean tries to go too big, too grand, and try to take itself too seriously, the elements that made the first movie great will totally evaporate and would result into a train wreck.

I was really hoping this series could be in the style of Indiana Jones. You know fun, simple, and filled with adventure. But by the way it sounds, they're trying to take a Matrix route.

If it does end up sucking im still going to enjoy watching the first 2 for the rest of my sad little life:D

[Wolverine]

Heres Something somebody else brought up in another thread that I found Interesting.

Could mean Spoilers for Pirates 3.

From another guy not me

i saw the movie a second time, and i think i noticed something pretty big. If you remember the locket that davy jones had by his organ, it was heart shaped and opened up and played music and whatnot.

well, watching a second time through i noticed that as they paned through that black seer-lady's home, she had another one on a table.

Shes the one that Davy Jones loved.

[The3rdSkywalker]

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?t=44117

[Catechumen]

Guys, this is a spoiler thread...so you don't need to use spoiler tags!

YARGHH - I saw No.2 yesterday...I get all the No.3 spoilers now! :P
What a cliffie - I was sitting there, hands clutching the arm-rests, bug-eyed and gasping! YARGHH! Barbossa be back, meh laddies and lasses!
Oh gosh...we have to wait til NEXT YEAR!!!

[Catechumen]

If it does end up sucking im still going to enjoy watching the first 2 for the rest of my sad little life:D
All the way, man!!!

[Andrey83]

So its Barbossa & Jack & Will VS. Norrington & Sau Feng & Davy Jones & Lord Cutler..hmmmm

After seeing Pirates 2, it looks like I was probably right. With the exeption of Sau. Cant really be sure of what he will do.

But its so obvious after the ending of 2 that Barbossa and Jack will double team Davy Jones in the end of 3.

[RedVader 2004]

I dissagree i think it likely will be Will ad Jack versus Davy Jones for its more fitting a pairing and during the fight Barbossa double crosses them. However a better question i'd liked answered. Why Jack is worth 100 souls and how much does he know about Davy Jones and the one he loved.

[Camy-Tay]

It's so going to be Will & Jack, Barbossa steals the ship and joins sao-Feng and Davey Jones is on his own. And just to spice it up, put the East Indian Trading company on Will & Jack's side. But what is Will doing saving Jack when he still thinks that Elizabeth is in love with him? That will be funny to see when he finds out she's not

[Alien]

I dissagree i think it likely will be Will ad Jack versus Davy Jones for its more fitting a pairing and during the fight Barbossa double crosses them. However a better question i'd liked answered. Why Jack is worth 100 souls and how much does he know about Davy Jones and the one he loved.
I think it's just Davy Jones the soul that has been signed away to him or 100 others to forget, "the contract." I don't think it makes a difference who it is if they want out of the contract they have to get 100 other souls. That’s how I took it but I’m probably wrong, I often am.

[RedVader 2004]

It's so going to be Will & Jack, Barbossa steals the ship and joins sao-Feng and Davey Jones is on his own. And just to spice it up, put the East Indian Trading company on Will & Jack's side. But what is Will doing saving Jack when he still thinks that Elizabeth is in love with him? That will be funny to see when he finds out she's not
Don't assume Elzabeth doesn't care about Jack. Sure Jack may not feel the same. Even though she did a bad thing. It was apparent she as about to freak out over it. I think she does love both and it will be more apparent in three. I however think Jack will make her decision and leave for good.

[Andrey83]

I dissagree i think it likely will be Will ad Jack versus Davy Jones for its more fitting a pairing and during the fight Barbossa double crosses them. However a better question i'd liked answered. Why Jack is worth 100 souls and how much does he know about Davy Jones and the one he loved.

Well, maybe. I just dont think they will remake Pirates 1.

Barbossa double crossing Jack, that is old. Barbossa vs. Jack - been there done that. Jack and Will double teaming - been there done that.

Barbossa and Jack together. Fresh and new. My bet is on this one.

I think Will will be buisy fighting Norrington. Its the old plot fight for the girl. Its been set up since film 1, so I think this is the way they will go.

[Catechumen]

Did I say that this was SPOILER thread, and that you don't need to use spoiler tags?
I'm assuming that everyone who wants to read a SPOILER thread won't mind having stuff SPOILED for them...

[ALASTER'SFURY]

EITC will control davey jones and will probably be the main bad guys

[RedVader 2004]

I think after the ending in Dead Mans Chest that Jack and Will have to come back together as a team. For thats the only person Jack could trust to keep his word. Unless the surprise allie and hero is Cho Yung Fats character.

Sao Feng v/s Barbossa. Will and Jack versus Davy Jones. Ofcourse at some point Will likely will face Norrington. I'D love triangle fixed. I know people and Disney will have it be Will but do remember that Disney also kills people off. Mufasa is a good example. Jack will likely not get the girl but likely the Pearl and his soul.

[vader519]

I don't think they will kill Jack off. Johnny Depp says he wants do more pirate movies afterthe third movie, and he is talking to Disney about it.

[Catechumen]

^I think that they should just leave it at 3. More would be overkill...
I wonder what Barbossa as an ally will be like? Because he doesn't have that bitter/undead/evil element any more. I'm looking forward to the rapport between the crew and Barbossa!
I was so happy at the end of No.2 - Barbossa finally got to eat his apple!!!

[RedVader 2004]

I hope Barbossa has a few of those scenes where the tell him somethings and he does something underhanded. Example of that is when Will makes his conditions to Barbossa and then he makes elizabeth walk the plank. "Don't dare impune my honor boy it was true she be freed but up did not specifi when or where." I hope he pulls one of those. Not to that extrem but for like a plan that goes out of control.

Barbossa and Will likely will but heads and i imagin Will will be glad to see Jack after fallow Barbossas orders.
Awe i head that At Worlds End is not the offical title for 3. So its could be Undchartered Waters.

[quiksilver022]

I really hope they end the series at 3.. If I'm not mistaken, Johnny Depp has never done a sequel in his entire career, except for Pirates, and I think that going to 4 would wear out his welcome a bit. I'm sure they're going to sign on for more, because from the looks of it, this will be one of the biggest films of all-time, but I just don't see how much further they can stretch the story?

[Comicbook-guy]

i expect them to make an animated kids tv show out of it after 3 if they dont do 4

[boydston_14]

^I think that they should just leave it at 3. More would be overkill...
I wonder what Barbossa as an ally will be like? Because he doesn't have that bitter/undead/evil element any more. I'm looking forward to the rapport between the crew and Barbossa!
I was so happy at the end of No.2 - Barbossa finally got to eat his apple!!!
I know, I was thinking the same thing. But, he was dead at the end of No. 1, and my question is how did he come back? (If this has already been answered, then I'm sorry).

[daughterofeve]

the Tia lady seems very skilled at voodoo... perhaps that should be a clue ;)

As well: perhaps the way that they plan to rescue Jack (what, is the world's end supposed to be Hades or something?) is the way that Barbossa came back.

[Ramplate]

I think the natives are gonna lose the dog, catch the undead monkey and try to kill it
ROFLMAO

[Fanible]

Am I the only one that thinks Barbossa and his undead crew could of totally wiped Davey Jones and his crew to the floor? That's a battle I definitly would want to see, if only for geekish reasons. =P

Speaking along those lines, you'd think all they'd have to do is take some of the Aztec gold, become invincible for awhile to take out Davey Jones, and then return the gold when they're done. ;)

[Boiiinng]

the Tia lady seems very skilled at voodoo... perhaps that should be a clue ;)

As well: perhaps the way that they plan to rescue Jack (what, is the world's end supposed to be Hades or something?) is the way that Barbossa came back.

That's what I've been thinking. I think that the Kraken is a gateway to the underworld and whatever was swallowed up by it is sent to Hades. So, in the third one they have to go there to get Jack back.

And according to Tia, Barbossa's been there. Remember from the beginning of the first film:

"...a ship with black sails that's crewed by the damned, and captained by a man so evil that hell itself spat him back out."

The Aztec curse doesn't send people to hell, so I think he's been there before that.

[RedVader 2004]

Ever consider a shout back to Pirates one where Murtag commented that The Black Pearl was Captained by a man so evil hell spat him back out. What if that actually happened when Barbossa dies for real

[Boiiinng]

Ever consider a shout back to Pirates one where Murtag commented that The Black Pearl was Captained by a man so evil hell spat him back out. What if that actually happened when Barbossa dies for real

Maybe it's happened twice. Maybe he can't die. That would suck, though.

[RedVader 2004]

Maybe it's happened twice. Maybe he can't die. That would suck, though.
Not really for i Like Barbossa's Character he is the dark side of Jack Sparrow and no one besides Gibbs gives you the proper pirate aye lingo. Jack, Barbossa and Pintel and Regettie are my Favorite characters.

[Catechumen]

^I didn't get that answer. Oh well, I like Barbossa too. I was missing him in the 2nd movie, and when he came out at the end, I was overjoyed. I think the quality of the 3rd one will be upped by his presence at least.
Yarghh, Australian pride - I *heart* Geoffrey Rush!

[Fanible]

^I didn't get that answer. Oh well, I like Barbossa too. I was missing him in the 2nd movie, and when he came out at the end, I was overjoyed. I think the quality of the 3rd one will be upped by his presence at least.
Yarghh, Australian pride - I *heart* Geoffrey Rush!

I agree. Even though I found the ending awkward, and I will remain feeling it awkward until the third's release, I am definitly glad Rush's character has returned. I think with the connection of the third, it's going to make for an overall better story. Atleast I hope anyway.

[Comicbook-guy]

I really hope that at the end of worlds end jack and barbossa team up to betray and fight will and elisabeth for some reason

[RedVader 2004]

I like the idea better if Jack and Barbossa together took down Davy Jones. I think the surprise twist will be that Will may have to fight his father Bootstrap Bill for he is inslaved to Davy Jones. He did not want to hurt his son but he did anyway.

I think Jack likely will give Elizabeth the cold shoulder and know one will understand why Jack is being so unkind to Elizabeth who helped save him. Because they either don't know or never bothered to question her story.

[FilmJerk]

this is interesting here about Davey Jones: His former lover has a connection to, or may be Tia Dalma, as both she and Davy have identical lockets, which also double as music boxes. However, an early working title for the third movie was Calypso's Fury, suggesting that the legendary goddess of the sea may have been Davy Jones' lover. It may also be speculated that Calypso is Tia Dalma.

[Sora Kahn]

^That would be interesting. This is why I love Pirates. It mixes real life with some fantasy like Indiana Jones did.

[darthspielberg]

i have speculated that Davey Jones will turn "good" at least for the fight against the EITC. He is currently pissed because Jack has his heart...OR SO HE THINKS...but we know different, AND Davey's turn to step on land is coming up, so once he figures out who has his heart for real, well then i think LORD Cutler Beckket is kinda screwed, don't you.

[moviebuff801]

But remember, whoever has Davy Jones' heart controls both the seas AND Jones himself. So, with the heart in his possession, Beckett could force Jones to help him and Norrington rid the seas of pirates, and Jones would have no choice. But I figure an interesting twist would be if Jack somehow stole the heart from Beckett and he would be in control of Davy Jones. Jack could then tell Jones that he will give back the heart if Jones will help them defeat the EITC. That's how I see it playing out.

[moviebuff801]

I really hope they end the series at 3.. If I'm not mistaken, Johnny Depp has never done a sequel in his entire career, except for Pirates, and I think that going to 4 would wear out his welcome a bit. I'm sure they're going to sign on for more, because from the looks of it, this will be one of the biggest films of all-time, but I just don't see how much further they can stretch the story?

Actually, I've come up with plots for 3 more "Pirates" adventures. I don't feel like typing them all out, so I'll just list the titles:

POTC: The Bermeudan Treasure
POTC: The Amulet of Atlantis
POTC: Cortez's Uncharted Islands

[RedVader 2004]

For starters i think they should do prequels to the event of the first movie. And just end this part of the trilogy at 3. I could stand 3 more with anymore Orlando and Keira Back stabbs. I'd rather see jack, barbossa and old bill turner adventures.

[FilmJerk]

I think Jack will return as one of Davey Jones' crew, looking all fishy and mutated.

[Fanible]

For starters i think they should do prequels to the event of the first movie. And just end this part of the trilogy at 3. I could stand 3 more with anymore Orlando and Keira Back stabbs. I'd rather see jack, barbossa and old bill turner adventures.

Word

[Sora Kahn]

I think a prequel would be the worst thing possible for this series. Besides, most prequel movies and prequel anything fail big time. They made a prequel for Indiana Jones and look how that turned out.

The fact is, prequels fail worst than anything set in the future.

Future>>>>>>>Past. Examples:

*Star Wars Original Trilogy>>>>>>>>Star Wars Prequel Trilogy.
*Indiana Jones movies>>>>>>Young Indiana Jones T.V. series.
*Hercules The Legendary Journeys>>>>>Young Hercules
*New Jedi Order>>>>>Clone Wars books
*Dumb and Dumber>>>>>Dumb and Dumberer

[Necross]

Am I the only one that thinks Barbossa and his undead crew could of totally wiped Davey Jones and his crew to the floor? That's a battle I definitly would want to see, if only for geekish reasons. =P

Speaking along those lines, you'd think all they'd have to do is take some of the Aztec gold, become invincible for awhile to take out Davey Jones, and then return the gold when they're done. ;)

Except for the fact that the Aztec gold has been swallowed by the sea. ;) Cutler Beckett mentioned it when he was talking to Elizabeth I believe.

[vader519]

Over at another website, someone posted the half of the first draft from POTC 3. Now it is not the complete script, and it is only the first draft, so some things may have been changed. It sounds really good, and right away they start looking for Jack.

[vader519]

Part 2

Pirates of the Caribbean 3 : script page 3
ELIZABETH
It doesn't matter to us if you are alive or dead.
The Prisoner lets go of the sword. He is dragged to his feet, and pushed along the dock - -
INT. TEMPLE - NIGHT
Barbossa leads the group into a modest temple. Plain floor and walls, bamboo tapestries.
Opposite him is CAPTAIN SAO FENG, notorious Chinese Pirate - - flanked by his PIRATE SOLDIER. Behind Sao Feng, sitting on a raised throne is a young, beautiful Chiese DRAGON LADY.
She says nothing - - and misses nothing.
Barbossa bows before the Dragon Lady.
BARBOSSA
My Lady. I am pleased to return and see you are well. I bring you a gift - - the treacherous Lang Si, who slayed your brother many years ago.
Soldier turn the Prisoner around - - revealing the dragon tattoo. Many of the soldiers react, scowl in anger - -
Sao Feng holds up a hand.
SAO FENG
The Lady thanks you.
BARBOSSA
And does the depth of her generosity extend to a gift in return? Perhaps the charts we discussed?
Sao Feng opens a satchel, revealing a set of charts inside.
SAO FENG
The charts are here. the Lady knows of your interest in Jack Sparrow, who is known to us as a scoundrel and evildoer and who himself has a price on his head.
Elizabeth pushes forward.
ELIZABETH
How much?
Sao Feng focuses on Elizabeth. Looks at Barbossa.
Pirates of the Caribbean 3 : script page 4
SAO FENG
I command your choice in a traveling companion. I fear we chose the wrong payment.
BARBOSSA
The Wench is not for sale at this moment.
ELIZABETH
Wench?
Barbossa implores her to silence with a look.
BARBOSSA
The charts?
SAO FENG
I can tell you that Jack Sparrow resides in Davy Jone's Locker, which lies on the path to the Land of the Dead.
BARBOSSA
Just like Jack, to cheat death.
SAO FENG
He will suffer for eternity. Some say Death would be kinder. but Davy Jones never gives up what he takes from the sea.
BARBOSSA
Let me see the charts.
Captain Sao Feng smiles.
SAO FENG
How do we know your quest was successful? The Lady desire to look upon this coward.
Barbossa pulls a pistol. Swords are drawn in response. But - - Barbossa aims the pistol at the Prisoner.
BARBOSSA
The Lady desire revenge. Hard over the charts, or Lang Si dies and the Lady will be robbed of her satisfaction.
Pintel and Ragetti, on opposite sides of the Prisoner, edge away from the Prisoners.
Sao Feng regards Barbossa he plays with an intricate, Chinese knot pendant on a string around his neck.
Pirates of the Caribbean 3 : script page 5
Shakes his head. he closes the satchel.
SAO FENG
No.
It's a stand-off. One of the Chinese soldiers notices something, stares at the Prisoner's back.
Sweat on his back. The Tattooed Dragon is melting.
The Soldier catches Sao Feng's eye. Shakes his head slightly.
Sao Feng raises an eyebrow.
SAO FENG
(CON'T)
Kill them.
His soldier swarm around him to attack - -
The prisoner, still hooded, dodges an attack. Elizabeth defends against two soldters, takes a sword deom one as he halls. She turns and SLASHES at the Prisoner - -
- - cutting the Prisoner's bonds and trowing him a sword.
The Prisoner yanks off the food - -
- -it is WILL TURNER.
Elizabeth and Will smiles at each other. Then spin to fight back to back - -
Barbossa takes on Captain Feng as Elizabeth darts in the grab the Charts. She is cut off by two Guards. Will goes to her rescue - - and now there are a half dozen soldiers surrounding the Charts. Sao Feng makes note of this - -
The Dragon Lady watches it all, never flinching.
WILL
back! To the doors!
The group is quickly outnumbered and overwhelmed. Pintel and Ragetti cut a path to the door - -
EXT. SINGAPORE - DOCKS - NIGHT
Our heroes flee down ramps, up ladders, swing on ropes.
Elizabeth and Barbossa fight through an array of Pirates.
Pintel and Ragetti fight and also gleefully knock stuff over.
Will holds off a group, and then swings away on a rope - -
- - and comes face-to-face with Captain Sao Feng. Oh ****.
The two of them cross blades.
They fight their way across a platform and CRASH through a window.
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INT. PLATFORM HUT - NIGHT
Will and Sao Feng stand. But a weird thing - - they don't continue the fight. Instead, Sao Feng pulls out - - the Charts.
He glances at Will.
WILL
I will deliver Jack Sparrow. There is no love loss between us.
SAO FENG
I wish you luck.(eyes a window) Shall we?
Will smiles, the two of them race toward the window on the other side of the shack - -
EXT. SINGAPORE HARBOR - NIGHT
- - Will and Sao Feng crash through the window, roll, and come up fighting. Will cuts Sao Feng's sword away, and races off. Sao Feng calls out - -
SAO FENG
I see hem! Follow me - - this way!
SOLDIER appear - - and Sao Feng leads them in the opposite direction Will took.
EXT. SINGAPORE - DACK - NIGHT
Will hooks back up with Barbossa and Elizabeth.
WILL
I have the Charts.
BARBOSSA
I'm impressed, Mister Turner.
WILL
You have us a ship?
BARBOSSA
Aye, we're got a ship.
They race around the corner, and revealed before them is - -
- - the HAI PENG, an old, decrepit Chiese JUNK with patched sails.
TIA DALMA
is on board, and has the ship pulling away from the dock.
WILL
It's a junk!
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BARBOSSA
Aye.
WILL
No, I mean, it really is junk..
BARBOSSA
She's a strong spirit. she'll take us to the edge of the world! Or perhaps you'
DAVY JONES
rather stay here?
SOLDIERS appear; they are crashed along the docks, leap onto the ship - - a narrow escape from Singapore!
EXT. HAI PENG - DECK - NIGHT
Will looks back - - CHINESE SAILORS line the docks, there are dozens of ships nearby, but none of them pursue.
ELIZABETH
Why aren't we being followed?
TIA DALMA
There is something on the seas that even the most staunch and bloodthirsty pirates have come to fear
INT. BECKETT'S OFFICE - DAY
Swann and Beckett at the desk, working through a sheaf of documents. Swann signs his name under Beckett's supervision, Beckett affixes a seal to each in turn.
Swann pauses as he leafs through a new stack.
SWANN
Attack authorizations? I thought pirate activity was at an ebb.
BECKETT
They're lying low for the moment. But the Brethren will gather soon enough, and then one final strike - -
SWANN
A Portuguese merchant vessel? This one is for ships of the French Royal Navy! You intend for the Flying Dutchman to wage war on other nations?
BECKETT
Our efforts simply secure the sea lanes for British commerce. What serves the Company, serves England. (taps the documents) Governor?
Swann hesitates then signs. He hates it.
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SWANN
If I didn't need the Company's help to find my daughter, I would report you to the King.
BECKETT
A fine illustration of the principle that rational self-interest yields mutual benefit.
Swann's angry pressure on the quill causes it to SNAP.
Beckett already has another one waiting.
EXT. DOCKS - DAY
Swann strides along the dock. A large steam engine has been installed. It starts with a DEAFENING ROAR, starting Swann. He takes some anger out on it with his cane.
Norrington catches his arm. They must SHOUT over the noise.
NORRINGTON
Governor!
SWANN
What is this thing?
NORRINGTON
Progress! The world is changing!
SWANN
What?
NORRINGTON
The world! Changing! For the - -
The engine shudders to an unintended and broken-sounded halt. Quiet now, no shouting necessary.
NORRINGTON (CONT'D)
For the better.
SWANN
How can you look at that and call the world better?
He gestures past Norrington - -
- - To where the Flying Dutchman lay at anchor, an abomination in broad day light. Encrusted sailors loading the bay.
Norrington has no answer.
SWANN (CONT'D)
Though it may have been flawed in action, ther was once a belief that it was beneficial and correct to consider the welfare of others!
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Norrington doesn'TIA DALMA know where that came from. Suddenly, it all crashes down on Swann. He sags.
SWANN
(CONT'D)
I miss Elizabeth. I need to find what's become of her.
Norrington looks at him. Glances over his shoulder at the Flying Ducthman. Back to Swann. It takes an effort, but finally:
NORRINGTON
Sir I am sorry. At last report, Elizabeth was aboard the Black Pearl when she went down. All hands are presumed lost.
Swann looks back up at Norrington. He does not want to believe it. Norrington does not want to say it, but - -
NORRINGTON (CONT'D)
I was there.
Swann absorbs this.
SWANN
I must find a ship to England.
The steam engine ROARS back to life as he says this, his words nearly lost in the sound.
ANGLE - THE BALCONY, where Beckett stands, gazing down at the scence.
REVERSE - POV BECKETT, as the ROAR of the engine continues as Swann moves away from Norrington. Norrington catches his arm. A heated exchange, Swann bringing most of the heat.
Finally Swann turns and strides away. Norrington watches him, resigned and then looks up, directly into CAMERA, right at Beckett.
EXT. HAI PENG - DECK - NIGHT
Gibbs at the helm. Barbossa reads the charts. Gibbs tries to peek but Barbossa pulls them away.
BARBOSSA
Come about full, and set your heading due north.
Gibbs frowns, doesn't move the wheel. Barbossa raises an eyebrow.
GIBBS
We just spent three days and nights sailing due south.
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BARBOSSA
I don't have a need of you questioning my orders, Mister Gibbs.
GIBBS
Aye, you give the orders, now, is that how it is?
Will cuts in between them.
WILL
Gibbs, by my authority, you're to follow the heading suggested by Mister Barbossa, in his official capacity of - - navigator.
Barbossa gives Gibbs as angelic smile. Gibbs turns the wheel.
WILL (CONT'D)
Mister Barbossa On the charts, I was struck by a curious phrase. "Capsized into the mirrored sea, the sunrise sets at the flash of green." Do you care to speculate on that for me?
BARBOSSA
Ever gazed upon the green flash, Mister Gibbs?
GIBBS
I reckon I've seen my share.(explains, for Will's benefit) It's quite a sight. Happens at the last glimpse of sunset, on rare occasions, a green flash shoots up. Some go their whole lives and never see it, many claim to have seen it who never have. Sailors say it signals when a soul comes back to this world from the dead.
WILL
(to Barbossa) What are the implications to our journey?
BARBOSSA
I reckon it will Beckett clear enough when the time comes.
Will
I am interested in your present day speculations.
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BARBOSSA
I reckon I'll keep my speculations to myself for now, and that way you'll have good reason to keep me around the entire journey.
GIBBS
A prudent strategy, says I.
Barbossa glares at Gibbs. Will decides not to push the matter.
Will
Carry on, then.
Barbossa bows and turns away. Nearby, Pintel and Ragetti swab the deck, obviously listening in. As they speak, FLAKES OF SNOW start to drop down around them.
Ragetti leans over to Pintel as if he has a great secret.
RAGETTI
It's a riddle.
PINTEL
I know it's a riddle. They know it's a riddle. They don't know what the riddle mean. I don't like riddles.
RAGETTI
Riddles are fun. "Capsized into the mirrored sea, the sunrise sets"
PINTEL
Riddles are not fun! The way it always works is some poor bloke don't understand what it means, and then he ends up dead he realizes no, I wasn't supposed to listen to the singsing of the sirens, I wasn't supposed to take the pot o'gold and make that fourth wish, but by then it's too late and he dies in a horrible and ironical manner, and in this case, you and I be the poor bloke!
RAGETTI
Riddle are fun.
PINTEL
Right, it's all fun and games 'til somebody loses an eye - -
Pintel goes pale, realizes what he has just said.

[vader519]

Part 3

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RAGETTI
Now, there was no call to get all personal!
PINTEL
I didn't mean it!
They are interrupted SCRAPING SOUND along the keel of the boat. Pintel and Ragetti look out
EXT. OCEAN - DAY
Where a huge ICEBERG floats past in the water. The Hai Peng sails amid the snow and icebergs, beneath white-blue sheen of glaciers.
PINTEL
Where on God's green earth is he taking us?
EXT. HAT PENG - DECK - NIGHT
Tia Dalma measures out rum to the crew. Barbossa downs his right away.
Gibbs nurses his. Elizabeth cups her hands around hers as if it will keep her warm.
TIA DALMA
We sail into dangerous waters together. I wonder which of you are up to the task? You will survive if your motives are strong.
She turns to Will.
TIA DALMA (O.S.)
What brings you on this voyage?
WILL
There is what a man can do, and what a man can't do. Jack Sparrow died saving my life. I can't leave it at that.
ON ELIZABETH - - she knows that's not true, but keeps it to himself. Tia Dalma turns to Barbossa.
Barbossa answers with great conviction and sincerity and a lowered head:
BARBOSSA
To atone for my many and varied sins, ma'am.
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Gibbs laughs. Barbossa looks hurt.
BARBOSSA(CONT'D)
And because you kindly asked me to come on this voyage, ma'am.(explains) Seeing as she did me the great service of restoring my life, I am of course overcome with gratitude, and offer to Beckett of service in any way I can.
GIBBS
I wondered about that. How exactly were you delivered from your fate?
Barbossa smiles, sticks his knife into an apple slice, bites into it and chews. Silence is his only answer.
TIA DALMA
And you, Elizabeth? What lies in your heart on this trip?
Elizabeth jerks her head at the word "lies" Will watches her.
She condiders, and finally settles on:
ELIZABETH
Jack Sparrow did not deserve the fate the world gave him.
TIA DALMA
Ah, and what man does?
ELIZABETH
To punish the wicked, I leave as God's work. But at least we can try to reward the good, don't you think? (beat) What about you, Tia Dalma? What makes you risk such a dangerous journey?
TIA DALMA
The world is a lesser place without Jack Sparrow.
ELIZABETH
To Beckett sure. But that doesn't answer the question, does it?
WILL
Leaving me all the more curious as to your response.
Tia Dalma looks slyly between them. She answers enigmatically:
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TIA DALMA
I am owed many debts, with Jack Sparrow not the least among the debtors. I can hardly collect from a man not of this world.
EXT. HAI PENG - DECK - NIGHT
Elizabeth, lost in thought. has moved away from the others.
Will comes up behind her.
WILL
It must Beckett a terrible secret indeed, for you to let it come between us.
ELIZABETH
Nothing has come between us. But I do worry I will not live up to what you deserve.
Will donesn't like the sound of that.
WILL
As do I with you. Every day. I suspect there is more that troubles you.
ELIZABETH
My heart is troubled for the same reason yours is. If we can rescue Jack, all will Beckett well.
Will doesn't know how to take that. He presumes - - wrongly - - that she is in love with Jack, and hopes to get him back.
WILL
This is a voyage of resolution, then.
Elizabeth nods. Looks out past the rigging - -
- - the ocean before them is a mirror, stars above and below.
ELIZABETH
Like sailing into the night sky. (beat) Such a sight is what gave rise to tales and superstitions of the end of the world, where the ocean drops off into nothingness.
Barbossa joins them at the railing, pleased.
BARBOSSA
Ah, we're good and lost now.
ELIZABETH
Lost?
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BARBOSSA
Aye, for certain you have to Beckett lost, to find a place as can't Beckett found. Elseways everyone would know where it was, wouldn't they?
WILL
Lost or crazy.
BARBOSSA
Or why not both?
Barbossa laughs. Then they hear a distant ROAR.
The SOUND of RAGING WATER gets LOUDER. The ship TURNS on its own, is swept toward the sound - -
GIBBS
Hard a-port! Gather way and keep her trim!
Pirates scurry to save the ship.
Tia Dalma appears on deck. Unlike those around her, she is calm and serene.
She tosses her crab claws down onto a barrel head. Learns over them and smiles.
She murmurs an INCANATION. Moves the claws around in an intricate, repeating pattern.
Elizabeth and Will stare at her - - what is she doing? The ROAR is now OVERWHELMING; Elizabeth turns away, sees - -
ANGLE - FROM BELOW. a huge WATERFALL is revealed - - it looks to be THE EDGE OF THE WORLD.
Elizabeth whirls to Barbossa.
ELIZABETH
You're a fiend! You have led us to our doom!
BARBOSSA
Now don't be so unkind, my child after all, ye might not survive the trip these may be the last friendly words you hear
He laughs. The prow of the Hai Pan sticks out into the air and then the entire ship TILT DOWN
Elizabeth screams Barbossa laughs louder all the Pirates scream as the ship plummets down into - -
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BLACKNESS.
And SILENCE.
Out of the silence comes SINGING and LAUGHTER various pirate voices, distant, eerie "Yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me"
And just as quickly as they came, the voice FADE, to Beckett replaced again by SILENCE
FADE UP ON:
A WHITE HOT SUN burns in a cloudless blue sky.
EXT. DESERT - DAY.
JACK SPARROW sits with his head lowered, alone in the dunes of a vant desert. A dry wind blows. This is Jack's purgatory.
sand in all directions, endless.
Jack drags himself to his feet.
he staggers to a rope lying in the sand. Picks it up and turns, the rope over his back. He leans forward and PULLS - -
His feet dig into the and; he drives forward but goes nowhere. The rope angles up behind him; Jack pulls but makes no progress, gradually sinking down
COME AROUND TO REVEAL: at the other end of the rope is the Black Pearl. Towering above him, stranded in the middle of the vast desert.
Jack keeps tugging, to no avail.
Nearby are several SMOOTH ROUND STONES. Weirdly, the stones begin to rock back and forth, like eggs hatching. Cracks appear and the stones transform into crabs.
One of the crabs turns toward Jack, watching him. Clicks, annoying, like it's laughing.
JACK SPARROW
Perfect. What would my torment be without freaky crabs here to mock me?
Jack grabs a handful of sand and flings it. the crabs flinch back. Jack collapses into the sand.
JACK SPARROW (CONT'D)
I'm talking to a crab.
The crab scuttles forward looks at Jack. Scuttles sideways, looks at the ship.
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The crab scuttles away
EXT. DESERT - DAY
Jack Sparrow lays in the sand. Baking in the sun, exhausted.
A SHADOW MOVES OVER HIM - -
Jack blinks, looks up.
ANGLE - ABOVE JACK, the PROW of the Black Pearl. Moving.
Jack stand up, sees - - the Black Pearl drifts, floats across the sand, carried on the back of a thousand chittering crabs.
Jack raises an eyebrow.
JACK SPARROW(CONT'D)
Strange.
EXT. DESERT - SHORE - DAY
In the water float broken bits of wreckage, all that is left of the hai Peng. Pintel and Ragetti share a wooden plank as the paddle. Ragetti wears a wide grin.
PINTEL
Lestways it wasn't us what wrecked the ship this time - - what is it with you?
Ragetti cowers, the grin disappears.
RAGETTI
I thought it was fun.
PINTEL
It wasn't fun! (tries to scowl, gives up) Maybe a little, the tilting over part - -
RAGETTI
- - and the big splash at the end!
Pintel splashes him, Ragetti splashes back. Elizabeth, Will, Barbossa, Gibbs, Tia Dalma pull themselves onto shore.
GIBBS
Truly a god-forsaken place.
ELIZABETH
How do we find him?
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BARBOSSA
He's here. Every sailor what Davy Jones has banished to the depths is here, Somewhere.
WILL
And why should we bother? Now where trapped. Just like him.
TIA DALMA
Jack Sparrow is closer than you think.
All eyes turn to Tia Dalma. Behind her, an amazing sight - -
JACK SPARROW APPEARS in the sky, at the bow of the Black Pearl, riding over the desert sand, toward the water. Carried on the back of ten thousand crabs.
GIBBS
Well I'll be keel-hauled and dipped in sheep ****! Jack!
Jack waves. Grabs a rope, swings down onto the sand.
JACK SPARROW
Thank goodness I've found you! Is everybody all right?
the ship keeps going behind him, toward the water. jack treats it like the most normal thing in the world.
JACK SPARROW(CONT'D)
Will! Gibbs! Pintel and, uh, you with the one eye Tia Dalma, lovely as ever. (come to Barbossa) Now here's a surprise.
BARBOSSA
Jack, Jack it does me heart good to see you halfway along the path to hell
He grabs Jack, puts a knife to Jack's throat.
BARBOSSA
(CONT'D)
I've a mind to take you the rest of the way! (low) It's not far, I can attest to that!
ELIZABETH
Stop! We're here to rescue him.
Jack turns as Elizabeth's voice. Focuses on her. Pushes Barbossa aside, unconcerned.
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Barbossa frowns at being suddenly ignored.
JACK SPARROW
Dear Elizabeth. You came to rescue me. How uncommonlygenerous of you.
Will watches the exchange closely.
ELIZABETH
In payment for your heroic actions, in saving us all from the Kraken. Our score is level.
JACK SPARROW
It is now? Level.
Jack pointedly looks out at the desert. Does a three-sixty turn as he makes a "wind blowing over the sand" sound.
JACK SPARROW(CONT'D)
I don't feel rescued.(with some venom) And so the score is decidedly not level.
BARBOSSA
I guess you could look at it as we're in the midst of the rescue operation, at the moment.
JACK SPARROW
Looks to me as if the rescuers are in need of rescuing. And who says I want to Beckett rescued, anyway?
Jack strides away, Everyone is incredulous.
WILL
You're coming with us. We've gone to too much trouble.
Jack waves him away.
WILL(CONT'D)
Jack!
JACK SPARROW
(turns) Fact is, I don't. I'm perfectly happy. Here. It's very (tries to think of something good) Simple.
Will and Barbossa exchange a look.
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JACK SPARROW(CONT'D)
But if I do agree to help you out of this mess. it shall Beckett as nothing less than Captain.
Barbossa shakes his head.
BARBOSSA
I'm Captain on the return voyage.
JACK SPARROW
Then you shouldn't have misplaced your ship.
BARBOSSA
I see my ship - - right there.
He points at the Black Pearl. Jack looks in the direction of the Black Pearl. Squints, covers his eyes, pointedly searching, as if he can't see Barbossa's ship. Keeps squinting, keeps searching.
Barbossa sighs, losing his patience.
Jack squints some more, bobs up and down on his toes, keeps searching - -
BARBOSSA
(CONT'D)
All right! Only I knows the route home.
JACK SPARROW
That would make you - - the navigator.
BARBOSSA
Captain.
JACK SPARROW
Cook?
BARBOSSA
Captain.
JACK SPARROW
Cockswain.
Will steps between the two.
WILL
Enough. Jack is rightfully Captain of his ship.
Will draws his sword and slashes it to within a millimeter of Jack's eye - -
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- - then whirls and stops it a millimeter from Barbossa's eys.
WILL(CONT'D)
(Will draws his sword) All decisions subject to my approval. Understood?
JACK SPARROW
As Captain, I am pleased to name as First Mate Master Barbossa.
WILL
(raises an eyebrow at Barbossa) Agreed?
BARBOSSA
I can deal with First Mate. (grins) It worked out fine for me late time.
Barbossa holds out his hand. Jack looks at it, grimaces.
BARBOSSA
(CONT'D)
An uneasy alliance?
JACK SPARROW
An unholy one.
EXT. BLACK PEARL
Sailing the darkness between worlds.
Below the surface of the water, bodies float past, each in its current.
Pintel and Ragetti watch over the side.
PINTEL
Eerie.
RAGETTI
(musing) I wonder what would happen if you dropped a cannonball on one of 'em.
They look at each other - - let's find out! Pintel starts to hunt for a cannonball. Barbossa, walking past, fixes them with a stern look.
Sheepishly, they return to just looking over the rail.
PINTEL
Beckett disrespectful, it would.
Ragetti spots something ahead: a small boat, coming toward them, lit Beckett a lantern's glow.
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RAGETTI
Another boat coming.
Elizabeth glances out at it, then peers more closely.
She recognizes the passenger.
ELIZABETH
Father! Here! Look here!
Swann glances over.
SWANN
Elizabeth!(concern) Are you dead?
ELIZABETH
No.
Swann nods at that. Elizabeth has to move along the rail of tha Pearl, toward the starn, to keep pace with him.
SWANN
I think I am.
ELIZABETH
How?
SWANN
(has trouble recalling) Beckett? He's war? He's waiting for the pirates to gather and How odd. At the time, it seemed so important.
ELIZABETH
Come abord! (to the others) Cast out a line! (to Swann) Come back with us!
Crewmen prepare a line, too slowly for Elizabeth. She grabs it from them, casts it out. It lands neatly in Swann's boat, but he makes no move toward it. Due to the action of the two vessels passing, it begins to slip toward the edge of the boat.
ELIZABETH(CONT'D)
Take the line!
SWANN
(suddenly; this is important) Elizabeth.
She gives him his full attention.
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SWANN(CONT'D)
When I would reprimand you to obey the rules, it was because I did not want you to ever be unhappy. But I should have recognized in your willfulness your courage. I am proud of you, Elizabeth.
The line is about to slip from Swann's boat.
ELIZABETH
The line! Catch the line!
The end of the line falls into the water.
ELIZABETH(CONT'D)
Father!
His boat is near the aft of the Pearl.
ELIZABETH
(CONT'D)
Come back with us! Please! I won't le you go!
She climbs the a rail. Will gets there slightly, ahead of Jack to haul her back.
SWANN
I'll give your love to your mother, then, shall I?
Elizabeth stares after him; nods slightly, accepting.
The light of the boat's lantern is swallowed up by the darkness.
She looks back to the others.
ELIZABETH
Beckett is waiting for the pirates to gather.
BARBOSSA
The Brethren.
ELIZABETH
We have to warn them. he has to die.
She move away. Will, Barbossa and Jack watch her go.
JACK SPARROW
I personally have no reservations about that plan.
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EXT. BLACK PEARL - MAIN DECK - SUNSET
Barbossa watches the sun hover over the horizon.
BARBOSSA
It's not getting to the land of the dead is the problem, so much as getting away.
Tia Dalma has wrapped herself in the rigging.
TIA DALMA
I feel it in my soul, if we do not escape this night, we will sail trackless seas, under starless skies, to our doom.
Gibbs, Elizabeth and Will are gathered around the charts Jack sits curled like a cat on one of the sails.
GIBBS
There's a cheery thought.
JACK SPARROW
At least our demise sounds poetic.
BARBOSSA
Aye, the charts give us a day to sail free.
Pintel and Ragetti sit opposite each other on a table.
Ragetti's wooden eye is out, rolling on the table with the sway of the ship.
Elizabeth reads from the charts.
ELIZABETH
"Up is down on the mirrored sea, when sun rise sets at the flash of green."
WILL
Flash of green?
BARBOSSA
On rare occasions, when the sun sets, there is a green flash on the horizon. they say - -
GIBBS/PINTEL
... that's the only time a soul can transition between worlds.
Gibbs and Pintel glare at each other, the two storytellers in competition.
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[Boiiinng]

Except for the fact that the Aztec gold has been swallowed by the sea. ;) Cutler Beckett mentioned it when he was talking to Elizabeth I believe.

No it's still there. He said he didn't care for cursed treasure, he had his mind set on another chest...

Ha! If any of that script is true, then we are right about the Hades/Limbo/Locker idea. :)

[RedVader 2004]

Don't mean to pick but is there any certainty that this is correct or someones really good imagination working around what we already figure is the plot. Not saying its not the plot. Its just well its not that funny. Sure Jack has the funny scenes. Its a desent story just not funny. Ofcourse it can look differant on screen then on the page.

What is Barbossa angle though. He is Wills biggest fan now. Will and Elizabeth and Tia are so gullable. Mr Gibbs doesn't trust him. But everyone would expect Barbossa to betray them but what if it is Will. That would be a plot twist or Bootstrap Bill. Its to obvious that Barbossa would be the likely back stabber.

[Necross]

No it's still there. He said he didn't care for cursed treasure, he had his mind set on another chest...

Ha! If any of that script is true, then we are right about the Hades/Limbo/Locker idea. :)

Really? I know he said he didn't care for cursed treasure, but I swore he said something about the Isle De Meurta being taken back by the sea or something like that.

[RedVader 2004]

I came across this interesting long spoiler tag info thing on the superhero hype message board. The source seemed pretty sure that they evenst were accurate except for one scene idea and you will proably figure what. I won't persay typ in every single word but will put in the major spoilers that i saw. Just passinf on info to those who are pirate crazy like me. I wish it came out next week Pirates 3.

Spoilers ahead or the movie many are still calling Worlds End despite people saying that it is not the title. Do pay in mind that with 70 days of movie filming to go anything that people say are spoilers can be rumors until we see a plot summery thats fact or a trailer.

Worlds End is in fact purgatory which evryone pretty much has likley figure out. At those times people believed teh world was flat. So to put this supernatural idea could work well. Anywho the thousands of people here waiting to be judged along with Jack have a list of there deeds good or bad i there pocket. Its determined which place one can go. Heaven or the other place. Jack being a pirates has done less then honorable things but it appears Jack has done a few good deeds. Something to do with returning african slaves back to there homes in africa.

Worlds End is in fact a water fall and this place is a paradise oasis at its base. Jack is constantly persude by giant grabs and the Pearl needs some restoration ships applied. Looking for Jack besides Will,Elizabeth, Barbossa, Jacks crew and Tia Dalma. Is another Sparrow a very close relative of Jacks. I no not the certainty of the nick name but i do know Keith Richards is playing Jack ole man. Grant (The Sea Songe) Sparrow.

Everyone is trying to find Jones heart but Bekett has the heart other then the people looking for Jack ofcourse. Barbossa did in fact die but his soul cried out for Tia Dalma who saved him from the mouth of hell so to speak. Will and Elizabeths relationship is rocky for neither are talking on the voyage. The kiss comes up and she tells him what happened. Will becomes bitter after the truth is told. The main concept seems that Will ultimately is ignoring her and they start to grow farther apart. Tia warn him that the change in him will cost him at some point.

Jack while the rescue is being formed do to Tias idea that he could be saved if theyw ent to the worlds end waterfall. Now this is the part in which i myslef find it hard to believe but the word has came p as a joke but then maybe Jack did do it just not getting off the island. The ring Jack stole rom tia shack is rumored to allow him to speak to certain aquatic animals that live near the base of the falls of the edge of the world. He promises to help them get revenge on the priestess Tia Dalma if the help him escape this place.

Soa Feng is a pirate to where this side of the wolrd is a grand pirate to were they must access the waters to the edge of the world.He also seaks to steal the heart of davy jones. Will and the crew end up captured by Jones and he is set to kill them when he sees a heart shaped necklace around Elizabeths neck. She tells him she got it from Tias place. Will becomes closer to Jones as he learns that Jack was the other Pirate who Tia Davy love left Jones for. Will thinking Jack is trying to steal Elizabeth in that manor. Honetsly i don't think Jack sets out to steal wemon. He is just Jack.

There is a huge sae battle between Sao Fengs pirates. Beckett and Norrington and Jones at the edge of the world. There is all this fighting and chaos until they see Jack riding up the water fall on the back of two giant sea turtles. Thats the part i am not certain but still would like to see. Anywho the fighting resumes and Elizabeth and Jacks crew try to rescue Jack from the dangerous waters. But Will stops them. In this confsuion Jone sgoes for his heart but Will uses a knife his father gave him to stab his heart. AT this moment Will becomes more Jones like and goes ona killing spree of Feng,Beckett and Norrington. The ship with Jacks crew and Elizabeth falls over worlds end. Now i know not if these events will be what we finally see May 25 2007 but it sure sounds like how i thought it would go. With Will becominga dark figure like Jones. One problem is how is there to be a wedding when the bride that is Elizabeth falls into purgatory. Surely Will will save his love and save the story book disney wedding.

[lordgreivous05]

finally, someone listens to me! i've told people that jack went to purgatory where he must carry the black pearl for eternity. but actually, world's end is right now china because the entrance to purgatory/davy jone's locker is rumored to be there.

[Boiiinng]

Really? I know he said he didn't care for cursed treasure, but I swore he said something about the Isle De Meurta being taken back by the sea or something like that.

I found what you heard, I missed it. It was Gibbs in the beginning telling Jack that the crew wants money and he mentioned the Island of Muerta being reclaimed by the sea.

[Boiiinng]

I came across this interesting long spoiler tag info thing on the superhero hype message board. The source seemed pretty sure that they evenst were accurate except for one scene idea and you will proably figure what. I won't persay typ in every single word but will put in the major spoilers that i saw. Just passinf on info to those who are pirate crazy like me. I wish it came out next week Pirates 3.

Spoilers ahead or the movie many are still calling Worlds End despite people saying that it is not the title. Do pay in mind that with 70 days of movie filming to go anything that people say are spoilers can be rumors until we see a plot summery thats fact or a trailer.

Worlds End is in fact purgatory which evryone pretty much has likley figure out. At those times people believed teh world was flat. So to put this supernatural idea could work well. Anywho the thousands of people here waiting to be judged along with Jack have a list of there deeds good or bad i there pocket. Its determined which place one can go. Heaven or the other place. Jack being a pirates has done less then honorable things but it appears Jack has done a few good deeds. Something to do with returning african slaves back to there homes in africa.

Worlds End is in fact a water fall and this place is a paradise oasis at its base. Jack is constantly persude by giant grabs and the Pearl needs some restoration ships applied. Looking for Jack besides Will,Elizabeth, Barbossa, Jacks crew and Tia Dalma. Is another Sparrow a very close relative of Jacks. I no not the certainty of the nick name but i do know Keith Richards is playing Jack ole man. Grant (The Sea Songe) Sparrow.

Everyone is trying to find Jones heart but Bekett has the heart other then the people looking for Jack ofcourse. Barbossa did in fact die but his soul cried out for Tia Dalma who saved him from the mouth of hell so to speak. Will and Elizabeths relationship is rocky for neither are talking on the voyage. The kiss comes up and she tells him what happened. Will becomes bitter after the truth is told. The main concept seems that Will ultimately is ignoring her and they start to grow farther apart. Tia warn him that the change in him will cost him at some point.

Jack while the rescue is being formed do to Tias idea that he could be saved if theyw ent to the worlds end waterfall. Now this is the part in which i myslef find it hard to believe but the word has came p as a joke but then maybe Jack did do it just not getting off the island. The ring Jack stole rom tia shack is rumored to allow him to speak to certain aquatic animals that live near the base of the falls of the edge of the world. He promises to help them get revenge on the priestess Tia Dalma if the help him escape this place.

Soa Feng is a pirate to where this side of the wolrd is a grand pirate to were they must access the waters to the edge of the world.He also seaks to steal the heart of davy jones. Will and the crew end up captured by Jones and he is set to kill them when he sees a heart shaped necklace around Elizabeths neck. She tells him she got it from Tias place. Will becomes closer to Jones as he learns that Jack was the other Pirate who Tia Davy love left Jones for. Will thinking Jack is trying to steal Elizabeth in that manor. Honetsly i don't think Jack sets out to steal wemon. He is just Jack.

There is a huge sae battle between Sao Fengs pirates. Beckett and Norrington and Jones at the edge of the world. There is all this fighting and chaos until they see Jack riding up the water fall on the back of two giant sea turtles. Thats the part i am not certain but still would like to see. Anywho the fighting resumes and Elizabeth and Jacks crew try to rescue Jack from the dangerous waters. But Will stops them. In this confsuion Jone sgoes for his heart but Will uses a knife his father gave him to stab his heart. AT this moment Will becomes more Jones like and goes ona killing spree of Feng,Beckett and Norrington. The ship with Jacks crew and Elizabeth falls over worlds end. Now i know not if these events will be what we finally see May 25 2007 but it sure sounds like how i thought it would go. With Will becominga dark figure like Jones. One problem is how is there to be a wedding when the bride that is Elizabeth falls into purgatory. Surely Will will save his love and save the story book disney wedding.

That seems too fan-made for what they've set up. I hope the writers are more clever than that.

[RedVader 2004]

That seems too fan-made for what they've set up. I hope the writers are more clever than that.
I just wrote it badly. I did not have the time to write the thing down word for word. Two things i can imagine is true is this. The thing about Jack riding the you know what for Jack is such an unusual character. Its seems an dideal joke to me. A joke thrown back to Mr Turner who always mocked Jack for saying he did it. The thing is this. Like Gibbs said there isn't much know about Jack Sparrow Before a certain point. I mean we don't know if Jack had a serious relationship that makes him womenize. The other concept i can believe is that a certain Turner could turn out in the end to be a traitor and not barbossa. I mean everyone expect barbossa to back stabb you. It would be a great twist. Kinda like A Anakin/Padma. The man being Will could get so paranoid over a misunderstanding and with Jones whispering Jacks women stealing deeds. I can really see Will going evil because he is that obsorbed in Elizabeth at this point. Elizabeth is growing up and he ideals and feeling can change. She did not fall apart like Norrington did in teh out side world. I don't see her and Jack hooking up in this movie but her as a first mate assuming she survives and Will is saved from evil on Jack's ship.

[Necross]

I found what you heard, I missed it. It was Gibbs in the beginning telling Jack that the crew wants money and he mentioned the Island of Muerta being reclaimed by the sea.

Ooooo ok, I had the totally wrong character and scene lol.

[RedVader 2004]

Does anyone besides me think Tia Dalma is just as bad a Jones or worse. There is something that really bothers me about her. Especially when Jack jumps in quickley as she is saying things about destiney and you should be knowing me. I know people are saying Jack was jealous but seemed like he was really uncomfortable about going there. I think he knows alot more about her then we know. It seemed like he did not want Will around her. Like in a way kinda like when he did not want Will to tell Barbossa who he was.

[Kismet-chan]

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS, FOOLS!

You see, in the 3rd movie, Barbossa, Will, and Liz will sail to da Ching-Chaing-Chong Land and beat Sao Feng's butt up for da map to da unmapped water stuffies. Then, when they get there, it'll be all dead and scary and what not. Norrington and his crew do a driveby wit cannons in their brand spankin' new Pimpin'-Escalade ship, that got rims and mad silver-gold bling-bling. Everyone'll be all fightin', Cheung Yung Fat kicks MAD booty with his chopsticks and ninjitsu kung-fu karate fooey, there are Chinese hoochies everywhere, and then Will gets mad cuz he cant win, and his girl was with Jack, so he goes crazy and decides to turn to the dark side because they have cookies.

So Davy Jones and William decide to get together to rule the planet. They bust out wit da DBZ junk, and put their fingers together, and then dey FUSE~~!!!! Thye become... DAVIAM JONER! Daviam Joner gets MAD angry, and starts going crazy and totally goes Matrix/Stars Wars/Legend of Zelda/Bend It Like Beckham on everyone's asses and then destroys da ships, makes a bomb, and throws into the end of the world. It blows up, and everyone's killed except him, Norrington, Tia, and the monkey. Daviam Joner shoots Tia, brings Jack back from da dead ONLY 2 kill him again. The monkey bites Cutler's head off, killin' him, and that's da end.

Oh yeah, and Norrington gets run over by a boulder. =D

The End.

[PowersOfMind]

Does anyone besides me think Tia Dalma is just as bad a Jones or worse. There is something that really bothers me about her. Especially when Jack jumps in quickley as she is saying things about destiney and you should be knowing me. I know people are saying Jack was jealous but seemed like he was really uncomfortable about going there. I think he knows alot more about her then we know. It seemed like he did not want Will around her. Like in a way kinda like when he did not want Will to tell Barbossa who he was.

I think you right about Tia Dalma there is something really suspect about her. I think she isJones lost love. Did you notice the locket that matched the one Jones had?. I agree that Jack knows something he's not sharing. But also with this whole triangle thing are we looking at Will becoming just like Jones and Jack and Co. having to save him from himself. I dont know why but I really want to see that happen.

[RonStopablefan3]

ROLF I honestly don't think Will is going to turn evil, he's too good and helps every one. So sorry I just don't see that, its not happing. But I did here of a trio team up between Will/Jack and some one else but it would be nice if Elizabith fell off the end of the world, I'd smile if that happend :D

[RedVader 2004]

ROLF I honestly don't think Will is going to turn evil, he's too good and helps every one. So sorry I just don't see that, its not happing. But I did here of a trio team up between Will/Jack and some one else but it would be nice if Elizabith fell off the end of the world, I'd smile if that happend :D
It has to be Barbossa in my book. I think Jack may hate and does not trust Barbossa but i think that trio could take on anything. Ofcourse Feng could turn out not to be that bad a character. As for Will being evil. I think his obsessive attitude that Elizabeth is everything is dangerous for him. I think Elizabeth alot like Jack has trouble with loving one person. I think Elizabeth is Jack and Wills problem. They should let Barbossa make her walk the plank.

[RonStopablefan3]

It has to be Barbossa in my book. I think Jack may hate and does not trust Barbossa but i think that trio could take on anything. Ofcourse Feng could turn out not to be that bad a character. As for Will being evil. I think his obsessive attitude that Elizabeth is everything is dangerous for him. I think Elizabeth alot like Jack has trouble with loving one person. I think Elizabeth is Jack and Wills problem. They should let Barbossa make her walk the plank.


That would be fine by me, walking the plank falling off the end of the world, either way she needs to go LOL. Here's what would be a funny ending, if Will said its alright for Jack to get married to Elizabeth and than she runs back and says she's getting married to some one else. Than it would end with both Will and Jack looking shocked at each other, and Jack could say "Oh bugger" LOL and both Will and Jack could sale on there own adventures, they could so do a series of the two.

[Sora Kahn]

Actually, Will turning bad could be possible. It was sort of hinted at in one of Orlando Bloom's early interviews.

[boydston_14]

I don't like the idea of Will turning bad. Don't we already have too many Star Wars similarities?

[RonStopablefan3]

Actually, Will turning bad could be possible. It was sort of hinted at in one of Orlando Bloom's early interviews.


I hope he was just doing that to throw us off with the plot, course it would be nice if Elizibeth fell of the end of the world like I said before. Becuase Will most likely won't stay bad if he does go bad they could continue on more adventures without that Witch taging along LOL. But I do hope this isn't true though.

[RedVader 2004]

I think what will happen is that Jones has twisted his Wills mind so bad that Jack is trying to steal Elizabeth. The fact is Elizabeth starts it. Sure Jack would sleep with her but he is not souly after her. He is being Jack but Will likely will be too blinded by jealousy. Yet i think Jack will be the only one to stop him from going down a darker path. I think we will see a darker Will but i think Jack and Bootstrap will be the ones to pull him back from disaster.

[PowersOfMind]

You dont know how bad I want Will to go all bad ass and just start killing folks and doing all kinds of crazy mess RedVader. I do believe that Jack and Bootstrap wll be the ones to pull him back before he's to fargone though. I dont know about Jack and Lizzy sleeping together because that would be too "pirate" for Lizzy. After all she could barely deal with the guilt of what she did to Jack.

[Sora Kahn]

Ah, she was probably silent during that scene because she was coming up with some new way to backstab someone especially Will. If Will does go bad, I hope his first act is to make Elizabeth walk the plank.

As you can see, I really hate that woman.

[boydston_14]

Ah, she was probably silent during that scene because she was coming up with some new way to backstab someone especially Will. If Will does go bad, I hope his first act is to make Elizabeth walk the plank.

As you can see, I really hate that woman.

We can tell:D

[RonStopablefan3]

Ah, she was probably silent during that scene because she was coming up with some new way to backstab someone especially Will. If Will does go bad, I hope his first act is to make Elizabeth walk the plank.

As you can see, I really hate that woman.


Oh yah that would be awesome of Will to do that, I'd be all rooting for that too LOL. And she already has backstabed Will by kissing Jack, that jerk. Any who it would be neat I guess if Will went evil for a bit and the other two brought him back. Just as long as Elizabeth walks the plank I'll be very happy :D

[RedVader 2004]

You dont know how bad I want Will to go all bad ass and just start killing folks and doing all kinds of crazy mess RedVader. I do believe that Jack and Bootstrap wll be the ones to pull him back before he's to fargone though. I dont know about Jack and Lizzy sleeping together because that would be too "pirate" for Lizzy. After all she could barely deal with the guilt of what she did to Jack.
What i ment was that Jack is well Jack he is going to go for any girl for he is Captain Jack Sparrow but my real point was that Jones likely will piant jack as trying to steal Elizabeth to Will like he believed Jack stole Tia. The truth is it likely was the wemons fault and Jack well is Jack.

Meaning he is not really at total fault here. Elizabeth tried to kiss Jack more then once. She is the one who flerted back and tried to get Jack to kiss her long before the end kiss.

I think Jack and Will will end up on the same side and Jack won't like how Will is changing so he likely will lie and say he is no longer interested in Elizabeth. Because i don't think Jack wants to see his once good friends son fall to the life his father did.

[Kismet-chan]

Well, whatever happens, liz & jack should smex each other and conceive an uber future kick-ass pirate daughter. (All that Cora Sparrow BS is crap, seriously...)

[Sora Kahn]

^I prefer Will and Jack leaving her stranded on an island.

[RedVader 2004]

^ Did not realize Elizabeth chaining Jack would get such a hated response. I however do think the men folk would be better off. For as underhanded as Jack was i still hated what she did. That why i am with you against Miss Swann. However since she is Will love monkey she likely will win his love trust and have a happy disney ending. I Just hope that Jack isn't ona recieving end of mor back stabbing.

[moviebuff801]

I personally don't hate Elizabeth after what she did. Well, yeah, her chaining Jack to the ship was underhanded, but c'mon, in essence she was doing what she believed to be the right thing. The way I see it, she was thinking about her & Will when she did it. Rather than sacrificing many lives (innocent ones) she ended the one responsible. She's just turning into a pirate and that's what pirates do. Anyway, I predict Will & Elizabeth's love for each other to triumph in the end of it all. An ideal ending for me would be Will & Liz getting married on The Black Pearl by Jack. However, I heard Gore Verbinski said that the ending will be bittersweet, so who knows what'll happen.

[RedVader 2004]

I think both of Will's and Elizabeths changes will end up hurting each other in the end. I think the story book happy ending was for Curse OF The Black Pearl. Sure they may get married but could it happen that Jack makes her believe he has no feeling for her to make her pick the better man. So the bittersweet thing could be that she marries Will but kinda still has lustful feelings for Jack or she is pregnant but Will is not the father.

[daughterofeve]

But you're Captain Jack Sparrow. You vanished from under the eyes of seven agents of the East India Company. You sacked Nassau Port without even firing a shot. Are you the pirate I've read about or not? How did you escape last time?

She's been far too influenced by him to not be attracted to him slightly... i think she's probably still surprised that he turned out to be younger than she would have thought he was (And he really must have been around for some time to be a legend like that.. perhaps another deal with the devil about letting him live longer?)
I think that Jack is one of the primary reasons that she was so interested in pirates in the first place... he created a legend, she read about it, and was enthralled that someone could be an outlaw but still have power like that. She'd dreamed of meeting the Jack Sparrow of legend for years... if anything, I think she was dissapointed that he was more normal than she thought (though never completely normal, oh no! not our Jack!), though still incredibly attractive.

She's far too smart for her own good though... smart enough to be dangerous, that's exactly what she is. She's dangerous because she thinks fast and acts based on a plan. Now.. whether that plan works is another thing altogether. She also is able to control her emotions quite well, apparently... not well enough though, and that is also dangerous. She thought she could control her own reaction to her actions that caused Jack's "death", but she was wrong. Dangerous girl, that Lizzy! I don't blame you men for not liking her.

She's still influenced by Jack's legend though... and the dream of piracy! What was the reason she first invested an interest in Will? Bingo! the aztec gold coin in his posession which, apparently, marked him as Pirate! She was intrigued. She kept the coin for two reasons; she liked will, and it was a symbol of Piracy, the one thing that she thought was forbidden to her! Nevertheless, she still longed for it... she knew about Parley, even! that's how obsessed she was!
And then again, here's Jack; the biggest legend of all Pirates (if you allow for artistic license, that is), and she's met him, he's helped her get together with Will.... and she's still obsessed with him as a Legend.
So in the end of PoTC 2... she's finally thought of the plan that will save her and Will, yet again... and it's got three big plusses (to her manipulative-pirate-like mind, that is). One: she gets to kiss the Legend... something she's only dreamed of, (but knew that it would have overreaching consequenses, and therefore hasn't done this before because she wants to stay with Will) and it [seemingly] won't have any negative effects on her and will's relationship. Two: She will have beaten the Legend... she'll, in effect, be greater than him, and since she longs for that kind of power, she thinks that having it will make her happy. Three: She and Will will be safe: not hunted again by the Kraken because they happen to be in the same boat Jack is in (this is the reason she states to Jack)

The thing is.. there was something wrong with her plan. she didn't account for feelings. She didn't know that she actually would regret kissing and killing Jack Sparrow, that she actually would be sorry, contrary to what she told Jack. She feels like a traitor to both of them now: To Jack because he's the legend and she sentanced him to death, to Will because she betrayed their love just to get one kiss with the legend... even if it was one that she thought wouldn't matter because Jack was dying anyway, and she still didn't know that Will saw...

I feel sorry for her.


(And I'm also very interested in who those seven EITC agents might be... perhaps one of them was Cutler? Flashbacks! we must have flashbacks!!!)

(EDIT: added the third reason)

[RedVader 2004]

^ Wow you explain stuff like i do. Very long and drawn out. I think most posters ignore me half the time. Its good to see a long opinion on something explained. That being said i don't think Elizabeths reasons were so complicated really. She did a pirate thing which Jack commented right away. The kiss i think made her unsteady but watching the ship and Jack die i think seem to effect her more and more.

It ofcourse could be a human response to killing someone but i think she cares more baout Jack then she ever wanted to admit to Will or herself. The funny thing is she did not leave Jack to his fate because Jack sold Will to Davy Jones. It wasn't about the revenge of her love. It was about saving herself and the others. Thats very interesting to me. I think when Jack is back things will get some more complicated but my guess its will be Jacks turn at one point to get her back for leaving him to die.

I hear he kinda trades her to the pirates. "I hope the lines are like this when it happens." I helped saved you." "Well yes you did and this is very regretable and it was not my first choice." A cold exprssion comes over Jacks face. "While i do respect doing what is nesssasary love you have no idea how much pain is involved being swollwed whole. But is worse is being betrayed by a friend to ones doom. Sure i do underhanded things but i always have a confidence that the person i trick thats a friend are capible of getting out of mess. But you became a great pirate and so i cannot trust you. When you shackled me to that mast and left met to die. You forgot one very important thing. I am Captain Jack Saprrow." That bunch of lines its just how i would right the finally get back at Elizabeth scenes.

[daughterofeve]

^ Wow you explain stuff like i do. Very long and drawn out. I think most posters ignore me half the time. Its good to see a long opinion on something explained.
Heh, thanks! yeah... it's hard to write a long post, and always nice to know when someone has read it. :)

That being said i don't think Elizabeth's reasons were so complicated really. She did a pirate thing which Jack commented right away. The kiss i think made her unsteady but watching the ship and Jack die i think seem to effect her more and more.
the mind is more complicated than it seems. If she was not consciously aware of her ulterior reasons, she was at least subconsciously aware.

It ofcourse could be a human response to killing someone but i think she cares more baout Jack then she ever wanted to admit to Will or herself. The funny thing is she did not leave Jack to his fate because Jack sold Will to Davy Jones. It wasn't about the revenge of her love. It was about saving herself and the others. Thats very interesting to me. I think when Jack is back things will get some more complicated but my guess its will be Jacks turn at one point to get her back for leaving him to die.
I totally agree :)

I hear he kinda trades her to the pirates. "I hope the lines are like this when it happens." I helped saved you." "Well yes you did and this is very regretable and it was not my first choice." A cold exprssion comes over Jacks face. "While i do respect doing what is nesssasary love you have no idea how much pain is involved being swollwed whole. But is worse is being betrayed by a friend to ones doom. Sure i do underhanded things but i always have a confidence that the person i trick thats a friend are capible of getting out of mess. But you became a great pirate and so i cannot trust you. When you shackled me to that mast and left met to die. You forgot one very important thing. I am Captain Jack Saprrow." That bunch of lines its just how i would right the finally get back at Elizabeth scenes.
yeah.... it might turn out to be something like that... not the same lines, but something a bit more polished, you know.
Though... Jack is a tricky character to pin down. Last time, he was out for revenge on barbossa for the mutiny... but liz didn't mutiny... she even left him with his ship, which he has admitted a strong affinity to.

Speaking of the ship (yeah, going on a tangent now.. and i may not return back from it)... In the third movie, we should learn just what circumstances led to Jack bartering with Jones for the Black Pearl. We know that you have to be literally dying to make a deal with him... and this would have been before Barbossa betrayed him. I wonder what kind of failed adventure led to that deal with davey Jones...

[RedVader 2004]

Heh, thanks! yeah... it's hard to write a long post, and always nice to know when someone has read it. :)


the mind is more complicated than it seems. If she was not consciously aware of her ulterior reasons, she was at least subconsciously aware.


I totally agree :)


yeah.... it might turn out to be something like that... not the same lines, but something a bit more polished, you know.
Though... Jack is a tricky character to pin down. Last time, he was out for revenge on barbossa for the mutiny... but liz didn't mutiny... she even left him with his ship, which he has admitted a strong affinity to.

Speaking of the ship (yeah, going on a tangent now.. and i may not return back from it)... In the third movie, we should learn just what circumstances led to Jack bartering with Jones for the Black Pearl. We know that you have to be literally dying to make a deal with him... and this would have been before Barbossa betrayed him. I wonder what kind of failed adventure led to that deal with davey Jones...
The one thing i think that bothered Elizabeth the most wasn't the kiss its self but what she had to do to Jack. Thats the emotion Will observed. Her own personal torment over hurting at this point her friend. Weither she secretly loves him one really can't say but a persona can feel bad about hurting a good friend too.


I think the subject of the Black Pearl is probably a very long complicated thing really. I am guessing that the Pearl either belonged to Jacks fatehr or grand father Sparrow. He likley wanted to be her captain since he was a child and it was sank to the bottom of the ocean. So my opinion is that its a family airloom.

My one hope is that Jack/Will/ Elizabeth in the end will come together when its its darkest moment for they together can do much. I however would also like to see Jack and Barbossa on the same side.Without being forced to by Will. For they had to be friends at one point for Barbossa to be a first mate.

[Morphius DOH]

Speaking of the ship (yeah, going on a tangent now.. and i may not return back from it)... In the third movie, we should learn just what circumstances led to Jack bartering with Jones for the Black Pearl. We know that you have to be literally dying to make a deal with him... and this would have been before Barbossa betrayed him. I wonder what kind of failed adventure led to that deal with davey Jones...
I've been trying to figure this out ever since leaving the theater, and it's been driving me nuts! I know they'll be explaining it in the 3rd movie, most likely via conversation with Jack's father and Davy Jones as well, but the lack of this info in the 2nd sort of detracts from some of the story as well.

[Boiiinng]

I've been trying to figure this out ever since leaving the theater, and it's been driving me nuts! I know they'll be explaining it in the 3rd movie, most likely via conversation with Jack's father and Davy Jones as well, but the lack of this info in the 2nd sort of detracts from some of the story as well.

I think it may have something to do with how he eluded the EITC and how he got the branding of "pirate" on his arm. They also mention he branded Beckett with his own mark. So, whatever happened back then, he was probably caught and about to die, when old Davey came along.

[daughterofeve]

Which, again, may all come back to Elizabeth's quote from PoTC 1, in which she speaks of him having "vanished from under the eyes of seven agents of the East India Company."
There is a tale to be told in that backstory...

[RedVader 2004]

I think it may have something to do with how he eluded the EITC and how he got the branding of "pirate" on his arm. They also mention he branded Beckett with his own mark. So, whatever happened back then, he was probably caught and about to die, when old Davey came along.
I think people are wrong about wanting sequels of 4, 5 and 6. If its open sure do a 4th but make it the last in that story part. I think they should do a single prequel pirate movie called Captain Jack Sparrow. Keep Pirates Of The Craibbean off it and just do a Jack story with Bootstrap, Barbossa, Davy Jones and so on.

As to your comment. I think the Pearl isn't about Beckett but more so a family Sparrow thing in which Jack wants the Pearl for sentimental reasons. It could have been his fathers first ship or Jack was a first mate from its previous captain. I don't think Beckett is the reason. He did not exactly vanish for in a deleted scene which should have been in the movie. It shows Jack having scars. Jack simply says no truth at all to having two old muskett wounds and a very badly scared arm. So my point is he did not vanish at all.

[boydston_14]

I don't think they should do parts 4, 5 and 6 either, but if they can pull it off, then they should go ahead. However, if the series loses its steam, then end it there.

[RedVader 2004]

I wonder when they will do the animated series. I heard there were going to make a cartoon out of the Pirates Of The Caribbean. With Jack Sparrow and so on.

My take on the movies is this. Make a 4th and stop there with this part of the trilogy. Then do one prequel movie. In all the series of films should stop at 5. It just depends how big 3 is and how it ends. But i would really like a pre Will and Elizabeth movie with just the other pirates. They need to have more Jack explanation. Maybe that is what the cartoon series is for.

[daughterofeve]

no..... NO..... um, no?

please no cartoons, PLEASE!!!!!!!

*whimpers*

[i_luv_will_turner]

I think Jack looks better in the other outfit..
well yea...

[RedVader 2004]

I just came back from seeing Dead Mans Chest again. Now that i have see it twice which sometimes i do before announcing how much a like a sequel film. It is a good summer fun movie but i still Think 1 was better. Kinda Like Harry Potter 1 and Fellowship Of The Ring. I mostly always like the first movie. While this will be a wicked trilogy when the better movie World end comes out . I mean that i think Worlds End will be alot better but may not be as good as the first. Worlds End has Barbossa as a main character and a new Pirate baddie which is always good. I think Dead Mans Chest will end up being the big money maker and Worlds End will make Pirates 1 numbers but will be a better movie.

[daughterofeve]

Hmmm.... I dunno.
I think both of the movies so far are tied for the same spot among my faves... I really have no clue how the third one will be possibly equal them, but I know Bruckheimer will somehow find a way to make it work!
One of my friends got his mind blown at the possibility of pirates and ninjas in the same movie though.... (i still don't quite see why that would be so mindblowing...)

[ferretchucker]

Whatever the reason is, this pic does at least confirm that the compass will play a role in the 3rd one as well. Thats one thing at least :)

Edit: And imdb isnt very reliable. For a while Rush was on the cast list for the second movie. Dont think that is happening. It may be true for the third one though. We'll see :)
he was in the second one

[Andrey83]

he was in the second one

Gez...no **** sherlock. That post was before the second movie came out... :)

[Denethor]

I am afraid POTC 3 will not have the Caribbean-spirit the first one has.
I like a lot Chow Yun Fat.
But I wonder how good will be to add Asia into a Caribbean story.
Well, let´s wait and see.

[G.Bishop]

Does anyone know what Jack's father's name will be?? I for one can't wait to see Keith Richards dressed as a pirate. Oh wait, doesn't he dress kind of like a pirate, anyway?

[Darth Elektra]

Does anyone know what Jack's father's name will be?? I for one can't wait to see Keith Richards dressed as a pirate. Oh wait, doesn't he dress kind of like a pirate, anyway?

Yea, he sortaof does, i can't wait for his character either.

[Andrey83]

Kinda off topic, but I guess this goes as general discussion too :)

Didnt wanna create a new topic for it, but Pirates 1 is now currently the 6th best selling DVD. Pretty good imo. So this franchise is really pulling in the big bucks.

[Sora Kahn]

I just pray they don't do a Matrix thing and make a bad third movie.

[SethRex]

I think it will be a matrix thing, but knowing Bruckheimer it will be one hell of a ride and not suck.

[RedVader 2004]

I don't think it will be a matrix 3 disaster for you have Barbossa back for most of the movie. You have alot more pirates and alot more supernatural element that was missing in pirates 2 i think. This i have a feeling will be the best movie of them all.

[Boiiinng]

I don't think it will be a matrix 3 disaster for you have Barbossa back for most of the movie. You have alot more pirates and alot more supernatural element that was missing in pirates 2 i think. This i have a feeling will be the best movie of them all.

You mean supernatural as in Davy Jones and his crew, the Flying Dutchman, the Kraken, and a solitary beating heart? :rolleyes:

[Sora Kahn]

My only concern for Pirates 3 is the same worry I have for Book 7 in Harry Potter. There's too much to wrap up in such a short amount of time. You have the Will/Elizabeth/Jack triangle plot, the Davey Jones plot angle, the Bekett and Norrington situation, the Barbossa coming back to life plotline, Jack's father, Bootstrap, and now you have the Chinese Pirates.

That's a little much and it's now starting to look like X3 in the character clutter department only in this situation every character has a complexed plot surrounding them.

I wouldn't be very concerned if they had concluded Davey Jone's plotline in Dead Man's Chest. But since they didn't, I am now a little concerned about how this third movie is going to turn out.

[SethRex]

I think it's going to turn out quite well.

[RedVader 2004]

You mean supernatural as in Davy Jones and his crew, the Flying Dutchman, the Kraken, and a solitary beating heart? :rolleyes:
Kinda but from what i hear its more like the Aztec gold cursed pirate supernatural feel. I kinda missed that element. Jones/Kraken are myth related sea lore legend. The cursed pirate feel is what i ment.

[RedVader 2004]

My only concern for Pirates 3 is the same worry I have for Book 7 in Harry Potter. There's too much to wrap up in such a short amount of time. You have the Will/Elizabeth/Jack triangle plot, the Davey Jones plot angle, the Bekett and Norrington situation, the Barbossa coming back to life plotline, Jack's father, Bootstrap, and now you have the Chinese Pirates.

That's a little much and it's now starting to look like X3 in the character clutter department only in this situation every character has a complexed plot surrounding them.

I wouldn't be very concerned if they had concluded Davey Jone's plotline in Dead Man's Chest. But since they didn't, I am now a little concerned about how this third movie is going to turn out.
Actually Pirates 3 from what i hear will be left open for a 4th movie. Likely Pirates 3 will not be the end.

[an_mjb_film]

I bet 10000000000 dollars that the film will start off with Jackk fighting the Kraken....like Lord of the rings TTT....that will be cool....

[moviebuff801]

I bet 10000000000 dollars that the film will start off with Jackk fighting the Kraken....like Lord of the rings TTT....that will be cool....

If you've read the supposedly first draft of the script for 3 that was floating around on the net for a while a few weeks back, then you should know that it'll more likely open with Will, Elizabeth and Barbossa sort of conning Sao Feng into giving them some type of enchanted maps. If that is indeed the real deal, then it'll have a cool opening action sequence.

[RedVader 2004]

Ok Terry Rossio has confirmed what Disney apparently had no clue about. What the fans have known is true. The title of Pirates 3 is At Worlds End. At first iwas not sure about the title but by now it kinda grew on me.

[boydston_14]

Actually Pirates 3 from what i hear will be left open for a 4th movie. Likely Pirates 3 will not be the end.

I don't like the idea of a 4th one, as much as I like the first two, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing, and it should end at 3.

[moviebuff801]

I agree, however, if the writers are able to come up with good enough stories and fresh new ideas, then I'm all for a 4th one. It just needs to be done right and kept fresh.

[FVD]

The headline for the Worlds End confirmation didn't confirm that Bill Nighy was a part of this movie. Is he in it or not? I thought he was awesome.

I take that back. Just checked IMdB and yes it's confirmed. Good show I say. :)

[eclipsedman]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16608

Keith Richards filming and messed up, no surprise there. Anyone know whats involved in his scene.

[sparrabeth]

I just can't wait until may 25!!! I want to know what will happens between Jack and Liz, their kiss was so passionnate! :P

I found a great website with all the latest news about POTC 3. This website is definitively a must see for all the POTC fans. :applaud:

Here's th link:http://www.pirates3news.com

[petergriffin246]

kool

[mastermov8]

hey check this out...dunno if hes gonna be part of Sao Fang's group of supernatural misfits but this guy was definitely not in the first 2...
What do u all think...possible new baddie?

[RedVader 2004]

How many wants Jack to pay elizabeth back in a simular way that she did to him at the end of Pirates 2. I mean Jack would not be Jack if he didn't betray her for what she did. i mean jack isn't going to be you saved me so we are square. No no she left him to die being swallowed alive by a Kraken. Jack is no Angel but he's not going to say you are my hero.

[Sora Kahn]

^I would SO love for him to pay her back.

By the way, idk about everyone else, but I got this weird feeling that at the end of Pirates 3 either Jack or Will is going to take Davey's place as ruler of the seas.

[RedVader 2004]

I mean i know that jack is a pirate and ha likely done just as bad but i seriously hope he doesn't let elizabeth off because she helped rescue him and the fact he respect piracy methods. Please let him have a more private pay back to Elizabeth so they are truely even. Elizabeth will not take it as well as Jack did. She will be mad because she fed him to the Kraken and then saved him and Jack wants to get her back. Geesh i wonder why he is not more greatful.

[Skrybe]

Is anybody here considering that she might not make it through the next movie?

[RedVader 2004]

I did consider that but i think Depp and Knightly are bigger then Bloom. So if anyone of the trio that would die it be Bloom simply because i can see him dying for the team. I'll be honest Will makes me yawn and if he turns bad and Liz chooses him out of pitty or to save him then he is a punk. Sorry i just am not liking the Liz and Will characters for they went to find Jack and JACK Is the traitor. Only when they needed Jack did they seek him out.

[moviebuff801]

Actually, I think that Will adds a sense of humanity and conscience to the characters and stories and think that killing him off would be a bad idea (plus I admit to being a strong W/E shipper). I don't see how people within Disney think that Will is not as necessary to the stories as Jack and Elizabeth are; Will is the most HUMAN character they have, and we still love him for that in addition to some of his other traits.

Now, I'm not saying that without Will, the films aren't as good. I'm just saying his character is as important as all the other main players. If he was killed off, then something would feel like it were missing. Someone like Jack needs someone like Will to play off of. I also think the whole "Will turning bad" idea is a bit too similar to Anakin in Star Wars; I'm not too crazy about it, but if that's in the third film, we'll have to see how it plays out.

Bottom line, give Will a chance. He certainly deserves one after everything he went through recently in DMC.

[RedVader 2004]

No Kiera is dropping out of the story. Rumored that Pirates 3 is her last too. Don't you guys get contracts is what they are after. This same talk happens every time the Harry Potter kids are up on there contracts. My point is thus why can't we have a new set of adventures with new people just with Jack, Barbossa, Gibbs, Pintel and Reggetti on new adventures with other stright arrow characters. If Pirates 3 makes a tone of cash you can bet Johnny as Jack will be back some way. With or without Kiera or Orlando.

[Dogbert0228]

Great adventure in 2, just saw it today. These things never make sense though... Barbosa? And Cutler not just killing the heart? That's what he wanted, an end to Davy Jones! Doh!

But I really hope they tie up the heart, the locket, the compass, and Jack and Will's fathers... Hey, was there a deal with the compass in number 1? It's been a while...

[iv3rdawG]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/pirates3newpics.jpg

[Sora Kahn]

^The three pirates. I never realized just how tall Barbossa is.

I swear, I get this feeling that at the end of Pirates III, Will is going to take Davey's place and become the captain of the Flying Dutchman( yep, which means Will is going to look like a dolphin).

[potc4ever]

Speaking of images, I see that there are a few from the DVD -- Will has a wonderful new "pirate" look. Saw it at the Updated News section of filmedge.net .

[bluetooth22]

if u watch the movie with the writers com., it gives clues about many things in the upcoming movie, although none direct just hints.

[Fanible]

Disney has released the high-res versions of these two shots.

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/pirates3newa.jpg

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/pirates3newb.jpg

[Nimrandir]

That is the absolute stupidest idea.

[Fanible]

That is the absolute stupidest idea.

Huh...?

Did you only read the first page and forget about the others or something?

[donny]

Dont know if anyone saw this before, but apparently hear is the teaser description. I found it over at SuperHeroHype.Com. The Person who posted it at the hype said they saw it over at JoBlo.Com. So dont know if it is real or not... but enjoy

Thunder STRIKES over WDP Logo.

OPENING SHOT: A dark night overlooking a Singapore Trading Harbor.

CAPTAIN SAO FENG: (Voice-Over) I hear a song Miss Swann. A song that has been sung by children, ghosts, and madmen. Yo..Ho...Yo..Ho...

Shot of SAO FENG smiling into Elizabeth's eyes.

ELIZABETH: Sounds better after a bottle of rum.

She pulls a cutlass to strike, is easily parried by Sao Feng. Will Turner appears behind him with a blade at his throat.

WILL TURNER: We're not here for you. We offer-

WILL is cutoff as SAO FENG administers a series of elbows and strikes, driving Will back into a barrel.

SAO FENG raises an iron claw to finish WILL off and is stopped by a blunderbuss (pistol) clicking right in his ear.

Camera swings around to reveal Barbossa with Monkey Jack on his shoulder.

BARBOSSA: We've come for The Black Pearl, Captain.

WILL and ELIZABETH turn to BARBOSSA with questioning looks.

BARBOSSA rolls his eyes.

BARBOSSA: And...for the soul of

Shot of pleased looking GIBBS on shore.

GIBBS: Captain?

Shot of LORD CUTTER whirling to face GOVERNOR SWANN.

CUTTER: Jack!

Shot of Davy Jones dropping an eye monicle on a navigation chart.


DAVY JONES: (whispers) ...Sparrow.

Turns to his crew.

DAVY JONES: The Locker!


Screen goes black.

JACK SPARROW: (echo voice-over) I'm in...something of a pinch mate.

Shot of WILL and BARBOSS in TIA DALMA's shack peering into a glass rock. Thousands of giant mutated crabs start to pour out of it and onto the dock. Jack's arms flail from the same portal. BARBOSSA and WILL step back.

Series of super quick shots.

WILL throwing ELIZABETH'S arms off him.

NORRINGTON in fresh Admiral's uniform aboard his own Royal Navy ship.

TIA DALMA laughing and sprinkling sand out of her hand.

SAO FENG: (voice over) You've come so far...

RAGETTI puts in a diamond eye and looks happy.

The KRAKEN's tentacles curling up behind NORRINGTON's ship.

GOVERNOR SWANN attacking CUTTER and being restained by his men and shackled.

SAO FENG: But will you go all the way to the end?

JACK SPARROW in a surreal desert (Purgatory) falling into quicksand and crabs. BARBOSSA reaching to pull him out.

JACK SPARROW: I'll not be saved by the likes of you!

Folds his arms in refusal and continues to sink.

BARBOSSA: And I don't want to be saving ya, but I don't see any sea turtles around to help ya now Jack.

"BOOTSTRAP" BILL sits at a campfire talking to someone OC.

BILL: I need to find him...he's...my son.

VOICE: You have a son?

BILL: Yes.

VOICE: I have a son as well. In these very waters. I'll help you find yours if you help uncover mine.

The owner of the VOICE leans into the fire and we see his face.

CAPTAIN GRANT "The Sea Sponge" SPARROW: Savvy?

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END

NEXT YEAR
CAPTAIN JACK
ATTACKS!

SUMMER 2007.


the guy who posted it Joblos site said this

"Delving around Jo Blo's site I discovered the script of the POTC3 trailer. It will apparently be attached to the Santa Clause 3 movie coming out this winter"

it wasnt with that movie though so who knows.

[Sora Kahn]

I believe they will put it in the Super Bowl.

[RedVader 2004]

I agree about the Superbowl for alot of people watch the Superbowl. As far as the script thing about the trailer that is old news.

[Fanible]

Keith Richards as "Jack's Dad"

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/keithrichardpotc3.jpg

I'm sorry, but this is starting to seem ridiculous. We did not need Jack's father to enter the picture here. That's just starting to get silly. Especially when he looks and dresses like him too. :rolleyes:

[RedVader 2004]

Why are you complaining about this now? Surely when we heard about Keith Richards being in Pirates 3 he could only be one character. Its men to be a fun twist for the fans and Johnny Depp. Also it may help explian why Jack is Jack and a few secrets.

[Fanible]

Why are you complaining about this now? Surely when we heard about Keith Richards being in Pirates 3 he could only be one character. Its men to be a fun twist for the fans and Johnny Depp. Also it may help explian why Jack is Jack and a few secrets.

Because this is the first time I've actually seen him..... In costume no less, and that was what struck a note. The fact that his dress and style look like Jack's.

Although that picture doesn't appear to be working anymore.

[RedVader 2004]

Why is it so hard for people to fathum Jack modeled his look after his old man. So what if Jack decided to be like his father. Many boys heros are there father. Johnny says he was inspired by Keith Richards so why not have Jack and his pop look the same. I like the concept that Jack's Oddness is finally answered. Its a family trait.

[gabrielangel]

Didn't Keith Richards die years ago? Must be the CGI version of him ... kinda like that old guy in the Gladiator.

[Fanible]

Why is it so hard for people to fathum Jack modeled his look after his old man. So what if Jack decided to be like his father. Many boys heros are there father. Johnny says he was inspired by Keith Richards so why not have Jack and his pop look the same. I like the concept that Jack's Oddness is finally answered. Its a family trait.

Dear lord, get over it. It's just cheesy, that's all. In a film like this, to have his father enter the picture and to also have dreads and wearing a bandana like Jack... it's cheesy. That's all. :rolleyes: It's like something you see in a cartoon, and that's the point: to be cheesy. Not in a film that's trying to take itself a wee bit more serious than that.

[halo7]

The fact that his dress and style look like Jack's.


What did you expect? For the two to be completely different from eachother? Thats the fun of having Keith in the movie is that we know that the character Jack Sparrow was influenced by Keith and so Keith is dressing up like the character he influenced. No harm done, its just fun for the fans. Lighten up.

[Fanible]

It's just an obervservation. Geez. I think it's cheesy that they dress alike, that's all. Like I said, it reminds me of cheesy cartoons where we're introduced to the father of a main character and he looks just like him, so yeah, it's cheesy to me. If you're telling me you dress like your father, then fine... that's slightly unusual, but fine. Otherwise, I don't care about the back story "novelty" of them making him look the way he does, just because it's Keith Richards, the inspireree. Which as it stands, the "novelty" is the only thing that makes sense about the two.

What did I expect? You mean logicly? I expected a similiar in facial appearance character who has some of the same mannerisms, but other than that, just like any other pirate. That's all, like it realisticly would be. Characters like these pirates, who are not only prideful but unique, arn't going to worry or care about whether or not they look like their elders.

[Citizen Kane]

Because this is the first time I've actually seen him..... In costume no less, and that was what struck a note. The fact that his dress and style look like Jack's.

...it's a pirate movie.

[Fanible]

...it's a pirate movie.

That's kinda my point. I don't picture pirates running around trying to emulate other pirate's dress styles, let alone their parent's.

[halo7]

Well, realisticaly a gigantic Krakken wouldn't destroy a ship that used to be inhabited by undead pirates on the orders of a Squid/Human hybrid Davey Jones so he could get his beating heart out of a box.

So I think two people dressing alike shouldn't be such a problem.

[Fanible]

Well, realisticaly a gigantic Krakken wouldn't destroy a ship that used to be inhabited by undead pirates on the orders of a Squid/Human hybrid Davey Jones so he could get his beating heart out of a box.

Oh please. Don't start up on that kinda retaliated argument. It never works and doesn't make any sense. It's like saying because there's aspects in this fantasy film that arn't "logical", it doesn't matter if anything else is.

Again, it's my obersevation, if you guys don't mind their relationship being that close, FINE. All it does is remind me of a cheesy cartoon (as I've said three times now), and despite it being a fantasy film, it does take itself seriously for the most part, and that kinda stuff bugs me as a result.

[halo7]

There is a huge difference between something totally irreverent changing the storyline completely and two people dressing the same.

I honestly don't know why you expected different, Why even bring Richards in if you don't really use the joke of them being alike? The Pirates series has always been a wacky at times cheesy series with some seriousness yes, but in the end its still a light hearted adventure film with lots of magic and cartoonishness.

[RedVader 2004]

I will never get whats the big deal. Jack being like his old man is the story arch to trying to explain why Jack is the way he is . Its nothing but DNA that makes Jack Sparrow strange.

[Fanible]

I will never get whats the big deal. Jack being like his old man is the story arch to trying to explain why Jack is the way he is . Its nothing but DNA that makes Jack Sparrow strange.


I honestly don't know why you expected different, Why even bring Richards in if you don't really use the joke of them being alike?.

As I already said, I did expect that. Looking alike facially and having the same mannerisms is how you do it. They would be and act the same. I'm very sorry if me thinking going as far as them dressing the same is cheesy is a bother to you, but it just is. No seriously directed film does it, and despite it's sometime silly nature and despite it being a fantasy, it's still quite a serious film. I would think so in any other film, and the fact that these are two pirates makes me feel even more so. As I already said, I don't picture pirates attempting to copy other pirates' dress styles. They simply wouldn't care.

[RedVader 2004]

Ah but what if Jack didn't start off as a Pirate and his old man was not a Pirate. Which is where i wager the twist is going. I say jack use to work for EITC and something happened to make him change.

[Fanible]

Ah but what if Jack didn't start off as a Pirate and his old man was not a Pirate. Which is where i wager the twist is going. I say jack use to work for EITC and something happened to make him change.

Well I suppose that may change things. I'm not sure how much of a "twist" it would be though. He certainly cornered himself pretty deeply if he isn't/wasn't.

*sigh*

But if that was the case, you'd probably count on Jack diving into his "nicer and more moral" self in this film.

[Sora Kahn]

If Will becomes captain of the flying dutchman, he's going to turn into a dolphin man.

[RedVader 2004]

I think Will may almost be tempted by the Dark side but Jack and Liz will reason with him but i think Will may have no choice in the matter. I think Will will be nice again but it will be that the one who Kills Davy Jones must replace him as captain. I truth i think Jack knew all along.

[Sora Kahn]

That's why I think Will is going to become Captain of the flying Dutchman. I believe it is going to be Will who kills Davey and then he becomes a sea creature captain. With Will as Captain, the seas will be safe and sailors won't be horrified.

[Carnage Escobar]

Nobody but Davy Jones can Captain The Flying Dutchman.

[RedVader 2004]

One question to that fact. Is Davy Jones the Captains name or is the sailor who becomes the Captain is then Named Davy Jones. My point is this could Davy Jones be the title of the captain. How do we not know that Tia Dalma didn't have part in snaring other sailors to becoming the next Captain. They said there must be a Captain for the Dutchmen i did not say it has to be Jones.

[petergriffin246]

I think the group will make a deal with davy jones and he will sail off in the sunset. Really if you ask me pretty much everyone will be friends......its a disney movie for gods sake!

[Carnage Escobar]

One question to that fact. Is Davy Jones the Captains name or is the sailor who becomes the Captain is then Named Davy Jones. My point is this could Davy Jones be the title of the captain. How do we not know that Tia Dalma didn't have part in snaring other sailors to becoming the next Captain. They said there must be a Captain for the Dutchmen i did not say it has to be Jones.

Davy Jones has been the Captain of The Flying Dutchman for centuries now. He has often been deemed "The God of the Sea" and rightfully so, due to his supernatural powers and seemingly eternal life. I think they misinterpreted that whole situation about how "The Dutchman needs a living heart or they'll be no captain". The Dutchman needs Davy Jones or there will be no one to rule the ocean depths.


It is unknown however, how Jones himself acquired The Flying Dutchman, the most famous of all "ghost ships".



Tia Dalma IS Davy Jones' "lost love"

[RedVader 2004]

Davy Jones has been the Captain of The Flying Dutchman for centuries now. He has often been deemed "The God of the Sea" and rightfully so, due to his supernatural powers and seemingly eternal life. I think they misinterpreted that whole situation about how "The Dutchman needs a living heart or they'll be no captain". The Dutchman needs Davy Jones or there will be no one to rule the ocean depths.


It is unknown however, how Jones himself acquired The Flying Dutchman, the most famous of all "ghost ships".



Tia Dalma IS Davy Jones' "lost love"
Its would take an idiot not to figure out that past love connection if you ask me. Does anyone kinda know though how dark a turn Will is to take. For i heard that Will may become darker. This from a past bloom interview.

[Sora Kahn]

^Yeah, he's supposedly going to become darker and possibly a villian. They haven't shown many pics of him in Pirates 3 yet, which means their keeping something underwraps.

All I know is, Bloom gave a few hints of him becoming dark and crafty.

[petergriffin246]

Yeah but we all know Will Turner will marry Elizabeth.............Damm Disney!!!!!

[RedVader 2004]

Yeah but we all know Will Turner will marry Elizabeth.............Damm Disney!!!!!
Yeh but that does not mean a happy ever after if she has feelings for Jack and merries Will to save him from a simular Davy Jones fate.

[petergriffin246]

I dont think she has feelings for Jack

[Sora Kahn]

^She does. Or maybe she just wants both men.

Anyway, I don't see Davey coming out of the movie alive. And Will is not going to be the same.

[petergriffin246]

I still say the heroes of the movie will make a deal with Davey Jones.

[gabrielangel]

Will is mad that he saw his women kissing Jack, so he's gonna be in a bad mood for the whole movie.

[RedVader 2004]

I still say the heroes of the movie will make a deal with Davey Jones.
Everyone assumes it must be Jack or Will to replace Dvay Jones but i think Barbossa will betray Jones after he betrays Jack meaning he was always on Jacks side. Barbossa to me is the most likeliest replacement for Jones.

[petergriffin246]

Yeah but that will put Barbossa pretty much back where he started

[RedVader 2004]

Yeah but that will put Barbossa pretty much back where he started
The rumors pretty much say that people will end up where they were but some will end up in worser places. I am guessing it will be Will to that respect. But Barbossa would be pointless to die again so Captain of The Dutchmen has to be Tia Dalmas plan for Barbossa or Jack.

[RedVader 2004]

Hello out there where are the Pirates 3 fans at.

[Dan's_Gurl]

You guys might've already seen these, but I thought i'd post them incase you hadn't.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31212

[RedVader 2004]

I've see these but doesn't Barbossa, Jack and Elizabeth look amazing. But did anyone notice that Wills made him looked a bit dark in nature. Its clear to me that Barbossa, Jack and Elizabeth will be the main ones to cause trouble for Jones and Beckett.

[Sora Kahn]

You know what after watching the second film again. I think Barbossa is still dead. I mean, he's walking and talking but I think he's dead at the same time.

[RedVader 2004]

Check out the Aint It Cool stuff withc some concept art on stuff to pirates 3. There is this one drawing that will look great on film minus Keiras jugs not being that big.

Barbossa is alive for when he was undead he never ate an apple. Unless he is a demon or he is back with his body for barrowed time.

[Alien]

Check out the Aint It Cool stuff withc some concept art on stuff to pirates 3. There is this one drawing that will look great on film minus Keiras jugs not being that big.

Barbossa is alive for when he was undead he never ate an apple. Unless he is a demon or he is back with his body for barrowed time.
I think your talking about this pic.
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/counsel.jpg
I wish she was that well endowed.

[FilmJerk]

those two last pics look amazing

[Boiiinng]

More pics at AICN.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31542

[Nimrandir]

Well...

Kiera looks ugly, she is suppossed to be looking somwhat attractive isn't she? As the franchise progresses she looks worse.

Dalma looks disgusting.

That picture of the commodore is from the 2nd film looks like.

...Fat looks ok.

Barbossa is the only real good thing about those pictures. BTW why did we have to go to China?:rolleyes:

[Sora Kahn]

It's not China. I think it's World's End that just so happens looks like China. Keira just looks dirty.

[mastermov8]

Kiera is one of the best things i like about these sequels...Shes evolving at first she was the typical damsel in distress and kind of caught off guard by all of it...as the movies go on shes taking more responsibility and getting more involved therefor she has to keep gettin dirtier...its not like she can just be like hold on guys i need to take a shower and put on makeup and do w/e else girls do.

[Boiiinng]

It's not China. I think it's World's End that just so happens looks like China. Keira just looks dirty.

It's Singapore.

Picture of Keith Richards, aka Daddy Sparrow.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31563

[RedVader 2004]

Yeh they are Singapore pirates. Even Jack mentions Singapore to Murtogh and Mullroy about corsits and stuff. Kiera has never been that appealing to me as a believible Pirate but honestly she is doing fine and just let her finish. I am hoping to see Kiera bring out the true pirate in Elizabeth. She has one more chance to win me over. After chaining Jack it will be hard to like Liz.

[Carnage Escobar]

I must be the only person that's glad a trailer hasn't come out. That just makes the suspense even better.

[mushdb3388]

There are quite a few plot spoilers ahead...

Okay, i can't see that anyone has posted this yet, so i'll type it up myself (Excuse typo's). Here are the important and more relevant parts (to the 3rd movie in particular) of Total Film's exclusive interview with Johnny Depp, in their April 2007 Issue. For info and confirmation, please click here: http://www.totalfilm.com/latest_issues/april_2007


Total Film: So, how does it feel, if the end is indeed in sight?
Depp:Um, not great, actually. I mean, the possibility of saying goodbye to Captain Jack forever is not something I look forward to. But if that is the case, we had a good run. I enjoyed being him - he's a lot of fun to play. And the fact is, with all the different characters I play, they're all still in there and they show up every now and again. So I expect I'll see him some time.

Total Film: When we last saw Jack he was getting scoffed by a sea monster. So does that mean when we find him in At World's End he's dead?
Depp: When last seen, Jack was swatting his way into the mouth of the Kraken, and when we pick him up again in Pirates 3, he's in Davy Jones Locker, which is kind of beyond the idea of purgatory. It's a hell, you know - and he's surrounded by himself.

Total Film: By himself? You mean there are going to be different versions of Jack?
Depp: Yeah. Which I thought was a really brilliant idea, you know. The idea of taking this guy and - it's not facing your demons but facing the various sides of your personality. The fear. The extreme aggression... the lunatic that you know - just having to meet all of those various exciting personalities that can all exist inside one person.

Total Film: So you got to play many different aspects of Captain Jack?
Depp: Yeah, you recognise him, but it's like the major ingredients of that person have been seperated so you get a really extreme version. The extreme version of rage and aggression, you know. Anger. It's pretty interesting when you think about it. It was a great challenge.

Total Film: How did you manage to act against yourself?
Depp: There was a degree of pre-visual that i got to see, which was helpful, certainly. But what was really, really helpful was on the day when they were able to do this kind of 'ghost' mix, like a ghost image where you see the Jacks interact, and then they add the third, and then the image fads a little bit more, but you get to see the interaction between the three. When you see it's working, it juices you up.

Total Film: Cool. Although presumably you get rescued from Davy Jones' locker at some point. How does that work?
Depp: Well, they realise that this sort of transit, you know, between the worlds, is through the green flash which is that moment when the sun touches the ocean at the end of the day... [pause] I still don't understand it. I'm going to go back and read the script at some point!

Total Film: At World's End takes place more at sea, so were you required to act underwater at any point?
Depp: Pretty much, yeah. I mean, you've got a bunch of guys under there with cameras and you just do your but. You do what's called for. It's strange, you know. It was definitely weird. But at the same time it became kind of normal. Just because we've done so much and there have been so many moments on this film where you go, "God, this is the strangest thing I've ever done!" It happens so often that you just stop saying it.

Total Film: Chow Yun-Fat plays a Singaporean pirate and there's also this thing called the Pirate Brethren Court in the script...
Depp: Ah, the Brethren. The Brethren of the Coast. It's the gathering of all these sort of pirate lords - all of the nine pirate lords. When an important decision has to be made, they summon the Brethren court and they refer to the pirate's code. And yeah, in At World's End it's very, very necessary that the Brethren Court gets together as Beckett and his corporation, the East India Trading Company, is taking over the Caribbean.

Total Film: So Beckett's back, then. Part two was pretty tongue-in-cheek, but he's got a bit of nastiness to him...
Depp: Oh yeah - he's a real force to be reckoned with, what he represents, you know, the finance behind what he represents. He's got big guns, man. He's got big guns and big ships ready to annihilate anything that gets in their way. So yeah, he's just evil, isn't he? I mean, he's just so foul and nasty, Beckett. Tom Hollander - who's the sweetest guy in the world - plays him so beautifully.

Total Film: And how does Jack get on with Elizabeth in part three?
Depp: I think Jack wants to keep his distance on that, you know. I think he wants to, well, keep his back to the wall whenever Elizabeth is around. And probably to some degree Will as well. It's just better for his health, I reckon.

Total Film: Is it good to have Geoffrey Rush back?
Depp: Absolutely. It's great o have Geoffrey back and it's great to have Barbossa back in this capacity, because it's what Geoffrey and I always wanted to do from the start. I mean, in the first one we never had all that much time to bicker between us, we go a bit in. But in this one it's like "The Odd Couple". We're like a couple of old ladies fighting over their knitting needles or their space at the shuffle board court or something. It's fantastic.

Total Film: So we'll get to see a little of what their relationship was like before Jack was mutinied against, right back at the beginning?
Depp: Yeah, exactly. You start to get the flavour of what it might have been like when Barbossa - Hector, as I like to call him - was Captain Jack's first mate before the mutiny.

Total Film: And now, it's nearly all over. You must be looking forward to seeing the finished movie...
Depp: I'm excited. I mean, there were scenes that we shot, a year to a year and a half ago - and sometimes they'll connect directly to something we've just shot. I just can't wait to see how all of those pieces are going to match up, because you walk in a door a year and a half ago and then the day before you've shot the entrance to the room. It's been a long ride, man. It's been a very long ride...

Also, a little note from earlier in the article, when discussing the current situation about the studio wanting to continue part part 3...

Depp: Who knows? [grins] They may go four, they may go five. You know, if that's the case, we'll get the family back together again.

[FilmJerk]

can someone repost the concept art?

[Sora Kahn]

Judging from that interview, I think this is going to be the strangest of the Pirate movies. I'm glad to hear Will and Jack might be keeping their distance away from Elizabeth. I mean, who knows when that wench will stab you in the back.

[Darth Elektra]

can someone repost the concept art?


This site has them all uploaded:
http://www.freewebs.com/potcrf/pictures1.htm

[JokerNick]

heard elizabeth gets swashbuckled in the bum... is this true?

[RedVader 2004]

Saw foreign trailer of AWE. Its was not the best speed connection to it and it was in russian. But it looked real enough to me with real new footage never before seen on Youtube.

The trailer from the bad connection do to my computer. From what i could tell. It had some pretty good action in it and Jack seemed like Jack. An amazing sword fight scene in the trailer with Davy and Jack on top of a mast. The Dutchmen and Pearl fighting with cannon blasting whirlpool like sequence. Alot of kiera in asian gear. Jack and Beckett face off and Jack fires a cannon aboard Becketts ship. Beckett "You are crazy." Jack."this wouldn't work if i wasn't." I know that line even in russian for i was expecting that bit in the trailer. Weither the american version is like it. Thats hard to say. With youtube its hard to tell the accuracy but it had new Pirates 3 shots and looked real enough. Awe yes you can see alot of pirate flags waving from several ships. There is also a scene where you see a table and the brethren briefly. This may not be the final trailer. For they can stiil release another around teh first of may but it could be the only one but Disney usually ha stwo trailers.

[bugman72]

I posted this in another thread, but the trailer you are referring to is indeed the same as the American version. I was at one of the POTC Ultimate Fan events yesterday in St. Louis and got to see the trailer in all its glory. The description that you gave is spot on to what I saw.

[Kaboom]

im psyched for thi smovie

[kakarot069]

I was adamant on not seeing the second movie because of SR, but after giving in and seeing the second movie, I REALLY want to see the third one. :)

[Alien]

SR? I hate abbreviations...

[Catch Bourne]

SR? I hate abbreviations...
Superman Returns:rolleyes: DUH!!!

[Alien]

Superman Returns:rolleyes: DUH!!!
Yeah, coz that has everything to do with Pirates of the Caribbean... I could think of other things that SR could mean that has more conection to Pirates.

[moviebuff801]

Really? Like what?

[Alien]

Really? Like what?
Em, well, like I said, I hate abbreviations...

[Kaboom]

drew this, thought you guys(and gals) might like it:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a384/kaboom43/DavyJones.jpg

[DAN!]

nice artwork, i wish i could draw nice :(

[Kaboom]

nice artwork, i wish i could draw nice :(

thanks

[Alien]

drew this, thought you guys(and gals) might like it:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a384/kaboom43/DavyJones.jpg
I love that picture and it's just made me notice he look like a scary, real version of Dr Zoidberg? Maybe that's just coz I've been watching Futurama non stop since the start of April.

[Sora Kahn]

I saw some spoilers of this movie and honestly, it sounds like it won't be better than CotBP. It might be slightly better than DMC. However, if the comic book/storybook spoilers are true than Will is going to be more sneaky pirate than any other character.

[moviebuff801]

I saw some spoilers of this movie and honestly, it sounds like it won't be better than CotBP. It might be slightly better than DMC. However, if the comic book/storybook spoilers are true than Will is going to be more sneaky pirate than any other character.

Well, the end of DMC did hint at that, and I personally think that it would be a good inner struggle for Will's character and at the same time, a good obstacle for the W/E relationship.

[SaltyDog]

OMG. Great Jupiter...Whats going on!! Here it is April already and POTC 3 is still shooting with its budget soaring over 300 million already and a May release date looming. I saw the trailer the other night and it special effects looked awesome. Hopefully they won't screw this one up with the hurry hurry deadline.

[Fanible]

That Zoidberg comment makes me want Futurama to spoof POTC now. :hehe:

[Sora Kahn]

Does anybody want some spoiler pics? I found some.

[JokerNick]

anyone else mad that we wont see that Kraken back in action?

[Sora Kahn]

^You know what that tells you. Bekkett isn't as smart as we thought. You're best weapon and you're not going to use it.

However, the Kraken could've died of Blackpearl poisoning.

[JokerNick]

^You know what that tells you. Bekkett isn't as smart as we thought. You're best weapon and you're not going to use it.

However, the Kraken could've died of Blackpearl poisoning.

I'd almost perfer Liz Swan dieing of whitepearl necklaces... but that's just me..


I guess Bekkett wanted the Kraken destroyed due to fear of Davy Jones using it against him.... I guess he says, one less danager in the water...

I guess they find the Kraken in the dessert, white and bleached, and full of arrows and harpoons

[daniel9]

just saw the 3rd one monday it was pretty good not better tgan the other
ones tho alot of great special effects good score good acting and ummm all i will say is stay til the end of the credits for a bonus scene alot of knuckledraggers left and missed it lol bad for them so tell everybody there is a bonus after the credits

[JokerNick]

^I'm soooo proud of myself... I saw the review at AICN, and it said it had heavy spoilers... so I passed on reading it... I'm screwed myself over for DMC, because I knew the ending and everthing... I'm going in fresh for this one..... the only thing I know about is the kraken is dead... which is probably a small part of this 3 hour movie...

[moosecakes]

Exclusive Pirates 3 clip! beware of spoilers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/lastxcaress/Satisfaktion.gif

[Sora Kahn]

^wtf!??

[moosecakes]

he he

[petergriffin246]

Exclusive Pirates 3 clip! beware of spoilers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/lastxcaress/Satisfaktion.gif




...........I knew it..........

[petergriffin246]

^I'm soooo proud of myself... I saw the review at AICN, and it said it had heavy spoilers... so I passed on reading it... I'm screwed myself over for DMC, because I knew the ending and everthing... I'm going in fresh for this one..... the only thing I know about is the kraken is dead... which is probably a small part of this 3 hour movie...


could I have a link to the review?

[JokerNick]

could I have a link to the review?

just go over to aintitcool.com

first POTC review from the top....