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NEo881
05-16-2006, 10:48 PM
hey dunno if this but brought up i was just reading an intresting article on ign talkin bout how it seems like ghostbusters 3 is movin forward heres an article on the script from ign

July 30, 2002 - Stax here with my reaction to the screenplay for Ghostbusters 3: Hellbent! This 122-page first draft dated March 10, 1999 is by actor Dan Aykroyd, based on a story by Aykroyd and co-star Harold Ramis. Sadly, this highly anticipated sequel appears quite dead now. The many reasons why this Columbia Pictures-based project likely won't get off the ground are cited below.

Dan Aykroyd last addressed Ghostbusters 3 back in November 1999, several months after this draft is dated. The original Ghostbuster advised Access Hollywood that GB3 "doesn't look like it's going to happen for the same reason they aren't going to make Men in Black 2." (And we all know what happened with that project now, don't we?) "The cost is too excessive for the studio to see it to be economically feasible," said Akyroyd. "It is a shame too because everyone wants to do it. Even Bill Murray said he would work a few days on it. I did finish a script. Harold Ramis liked parts of it. [Series director] Ivan Reitman liked parts of it too. There is definitely an interest from all of the original parties involved to make it. However, the studio just does not want to take the risk. In my opinion, the successes of the other two give the impression that there is a good chance of profit for a third sequel. So unfortunately, it looks like its just not going to happen based on the studio's feelings, not from anyone else."

Harold Ramis told Entertainment Weekly back in February 1999 that the "dream plan is that Danny and I would produce it, I would direct it, and we would recruit some newer, younger, popular Ghostbusters to star." Cinescape Online reported in 1998 that the "film is rumored to follow Raymond Stantz (Aykroyd) and Egon Spengler (Ramis) as they cope with Peter Venkman's (Bill Murray) departure with Dana Barrett (Sigourney Weaver), plus their attempt to stay employed while fighting a new otherworldly entity, possibly Hades, the Greek god of the underworld."

Having now read this March 1999 draft, I can confirm that the sequel does adhere to that general plot line (at least in this draft). Without revealing too many spoilers, Ghostbusters 3: Hellbent suggests that hell (portrayed as a stygian mirror image of The Big Apple dubbed “Manhellton”) has grown overcrowded and congested. As a result, hell is literally evicting people back into the world of the living in order to alleviate their congestion problem.

Obviously, this isn’t good for our world so the Ghostbusters must use their latest technology to literally go to hell and ask the devil why he’s doing this and to see what they can do to make him stop. Naturally, the devil – portrayed here as a Donald Trump-like mogul named Siffler – has a secret agenda that leads to a grand conflict with our titular heroes. The Ghostbusters must once again save New York City from the evil forces of the afterlife.

There is indeed a younger crop of Ghostbusters (or, as the script abbreviates it, GBs) introduced that perform much of the otherworldly legwork here. This new crew includes: Franky, a body-pierced, tough New Jersey punker; Lovell, a dread-locked dude; Moira, a pretty but uptight gymnast and science grad; and Carla, a Latino beauty. There’s also Nat, a prepubescent genius whose powerful brain has made his head abnormally large. Despite his youth, Nat serves as a supervisor for the new GBs. That’s all we ever get to know about these characters (we don’t even learn their last names!) and they’re our guides throughout most of the story.

I’m not exactly asking for brilliantly delineated characterizations here but even the original team had their own distinct personalities, voices, and senses of humor. These young bucks are practically interchangeable. They all behave and sound alike, and get along relatively well. There’s no real conflict between them nor is there a dominant personality as there was amongst the original GBs. These would be the script’s worst mistakes if it weren’t for the revelation that these young turks aren’t especially funny or charming, either.

That’s what shocked and disappointed me the most about this draft of Ghostbusters 3: it was more jargon than jokes. Bill Murray/Peter Venkman doesn’t appear until the end and then it’s only a cameo (he’s portrayed in a way you’ve never seen before, which was the script’s most memorable gag). There’s also no sign of Sigourney Weaver‘s character Dana nor is there any mention of her kid Oscar (remember him?), who you’d think might be included among these new, younger GBs given his importance in the last film.



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Ray (Aykroyd), Egon (Ramis), and Winston (Ernie Hudson, now referred to as “Dr. Zeddemore”) have prominent supporting roles here. (Louis Tully and Janine have cameos.) The action is driven forward by the younger GBs. Whenever the original GBs are in a scene, my interest – and the story itself – picked up. I’ve never been a huge fan of TV series or films featuring “the next generation” of characters, with Star Trek being an arguable exception (although I still prefer the classic Trek).

You fall in love with some characters for very specific reasons and sometimes it’s just impossible to see new actors take over those series/franchises. I think Ghostbusters might be such a case but if these new GBs had more personality, if they were developed further, perhaps I’d have accepted the transition. I just never cared about these new Ghostbusters, though.

The plot line about hell being overcrowded and needing to evict people was relatively amusing but isn’t the whole “New York is Hell” sentiment rather tired now? And I don’t even want to get into the post-9/11 issues that any film about New York City being endangered will likely face now. (Of course, I compartmentalized those issues given that this script predates the tragedies.) Rather than it being the wrong time for GB3 perhaps now might actually be the perfect time for it. After all, the Ghostbusters films offer pure escapism, politically correct villains, and a wish fulfillment/fantasy about being able to save The Big Apple from (excuse the phrase) phantom menaces. I just can't say that I liked the GB3 yarn that this draft offered.

As a huge fan of the original film, I’d much rather see a GB3 where the old gang must strap their backpacks on for one last mission (even without Murray, though he’d be sorely missed) rather than see pretenders to the throne get the bulk of screen time. That’s just me, though. Obviously, the series’ creators see the sequel differently so I must respect their ideas. I just wasn't as entertained by this draft as I wanted to be (and I really wanted to love this script). Given that there has been no development on this project for almost three years, however, my reservations about Ghostbusters 3 appear to be moot. – STAX

also ramis has more say on the movie here http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/708/708806p1.html

the script sounds good hopefully it will be better than ice harvest ive always been good for a another ghostbusters movie :)

Cloud Buster
05-17-2006, 12:58 AM
There's no reason for me to believe there will ever be a Ghostbusters 3 -- at least not from the original creators. Countless interviews have indicated that yes, a story pitch -- possibly even a rough script -- did exist, but it's not something they're not interested in doing. I recall a recent AICN interview with Ramis about this where he spoke about this.

Dirk Calloway
05-17-2006, 01:49 AM
That sounds terrible. I hope Bill Murray stays a million miles away from that bomb.

Sock-Man
05-17-2006, 02:31 AM
I like the concept they have.. but they should not make a ghostbusters movie without bill murray. He was the best thing about those films. Getting Ben Stiller in as a new ghostbuster is just.. ridiculous.

cg124
05-17-2006, 05:34 AM
I predict a ghostbusters remake in 5 years:(

FVD
05-17-2006, 08:03 AM
Yes I'd hate to have a team of Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn all posing as Ghostbusters. :nono:

Who'd be the token Black guy? Ving Rhames? Jamie Foxx? David Alan Grier??? Samuel L. Jackson would be going too far. :D

FilmJerk
05-17-2006, 10:08 AM
bill murray will do Garfield 2 but not another ghost busters!

Lynchfan2033
05-17-2006, 10:41 AM
yeah, there won't be ghostbuster 2, but rather a remake, not that i base that on anything other then the fact that they will remake anything these days

Ewok Droppings
05-17-2006, 11:07 AM
yeah, there won't be ghostbuster 2, but rather a remake, not that i base that on anything other then the fact that they will remake anything these days
Well, I think you mean Ghostbusters 3 since there actually already was a Ghostbusters 2.

I wish this would happen, but I don't think it ever will. While they are throwing the cast to the dogs anyways, I wouldn't mind seeing Adam Sandler in the cast if they are going so far as to cast Stiller.

Lynchfan2033
05-18-2006, 03:00 PM
Well, I think you mean Ghostbusters 3 since there actually already was a Ghostbusters 2.

I wish this would happen, but I don't think it ever will. While they are throwing the cast to the dogs anyways, I wouldn't mind seeing Adam Sandler in the cast if they are going so far as to cast Stiller.
no there was only 1 Ghostbusters movie... ok i am just kidding it was obviously a typo

sec127
05-19-2006, 03:15 PM
We dont need this, but if we get it, the WHOLE cast and crew better be back, I mean everyone and it better be good, or I will slap someone!

NEo881
01-16-2007, 08:38 PM
now i heard recent news from all over video games forums this from ign

Yesterday, our Aussie-bound IGN colleagues feverishly reported on several mysterious, leaked videos showing an Xbox 360 game based on the Ghostbusters franchise. Today however, we've gone one step further and contacted developer ZootFly to see exactly what the hell is going on.

Excitingly, we can confirm that yes(!) ZootFly has been working on a Ghostbusters game and the videos that appeared on YouTube are indeed 100% legitimate. However, the bad news is that the game is currently on hold.

Bostjan Troha, CEO of ZootFly, told IGN UK: "We are very glad to see the overwhelming response to the Ghostbusters prototype movies. What you've seen is indeed in-game footage of early prototypes on the Xbox 360, running on ZootFly's proprietary engine. Due to licensing issues, further development of the Ghostbusters game hit a bump on the road. But everybody here at ZootFly is working actively on resolving the challenges with the owners of the Ghostbusters IP.

"Not to lose the momentum, a part the ZootFly team is currently working on an original game called TimeO, which is closely related to Ghostbusters. The game follows the adventures of two die-hard New Yorkers. They get trapped deep in the shadow world of a parallel New York. The city itself is a war machine threatening to wipe out our world and they have three days to stop it. As soon as the Ghostbusters IP issue is resolved, the whole team will go back to Ghostbusters."

Fingers crossed that ZootFly manages to surmount those licensing obstacles so it can continue making our '80s movie dreams come true.

but i wonder if this is a hit i wonder if it means the movie is already a go or will be if the game is a hit

Ewok Droppings
01-16-2007, 09:29 PM
hhmmm... not exactly the news I was expecting in a MOVIE coming soon section, but a video game could be interesting I suppose.

NEo881
01-16-2007, 09:39 PM
well just saying maybe which ever company is incharge of geting the rights to a sequle and the game does well maybe it will give them motivation to go ahead with the 3rd movie

love_bhadz
01-16-2007, 10:54 PM
well just saying maybe which ever company is incharge of geting the rights to a sequle and the game does well maybe it will give them motivation to go ahead with the 3rd movie

I dont believe that there is Ghostbuster 2...:angry:
Well, if there is then that would be great!

Oh..found this movie trailer..im impress of this! check this out!
http://sharkle.com/video/114579/

Inferno
01-17-2007, 06:51 PM
There's a very simple reason why there should never be a Ghostbusters 3 ........ Blues Brothers 2000. If that is the state of Dan Ackroyd's writing then please leave this wonderful movie series to our memories.

Movie Madness.
01-18-2007, 11:41 AM
I like the concept they have.. but they should not make a ghostbusters movie without bill murray. He was the best thing about those films. Getting Ben Stiller in as a new ghostbuster is just.. ridiculous.

Agree Bill Murry was the best thing for Ghostbusters. It shouldnt be made without him atleast

droidguy1119
01-18-2007, 03:42 PM
I've seen the footage of the game and the game looks unrelentingly awesome. It would be great if perhaps Aykroyd (who has always had the strongest passion for Ghostbusters) were convinced to come aboard, because he would likely be able to convince Ramis and Hudson to join up, and with the three of them working on the game they might even be able to get Murray to, at the very least, license his image to the game so that he would be able to appear, even if he didn't come into record voice tracks. I've always thought Ghostbusters Go to Hell was an interesting concept, and the game is an easy way to realize the good ideas in the concept without making a $150 million disaster of a sequel.

When the film was being talked about in 2002 (as the IGN article at the top was dated), I read that Murray asked that his character die and return as a ghost. While that would be disappointing, perhaps Murray would agree to do the game if that same stipulation was enforced.

As for a third movie, I would still like to see it happen, but I don't see why the new team has to be younger younger. On AICN on their article about the game, someone suggested Paul Giamatti and I think that's going in the right direction. Keep Ben Stiller away from Ghostbusters.

Fanible
01-18-2007, 07:40 PM
I dont believe that there is Ghostbuster 2...:angry:
Well, if there is then that would be great!

Oh..found this movie trailer..im impress of this! check this out!
http://sharkle.com/video/114579/

Firstly... um, yes there is a Ghostbusters 2.

Secondly, what did that link have to do with Ghostbusters at all?

love_bhadz
01-18-2007, 08:05 PM
Firstly... um, yes there is a Ghostbusters 2.

Secondly, what did that link have to do with Ghostbusters at all?

Wow..really? there is Ghostbuster 2?? hmmm i will be looking forward of this film...

i never said this is the link of Ghostbuster2..just shared this link to all of you pepzzzz for the upcoming film OUTLAW!

Fanible
01-18-2007, 08:13 PM
Wow..really? there is Ghostbuster 2?? hmmm i will be looking forward of this film...

i never said this is the link of Ghostbuster2..just shared this link to all of you pepzzzz for the upcoming film OUTLAW!

So keep it in the Outlaw thread. Don't post it in threads which are completely unrelated.

And yes, Ghostbusters 2 came out in 1989.... hence why this discussion is on Ghostbusters 3.

SJBKAT
01-18-2007, 09:20 PM
The game will never happen for a few reasons. Head over to AICN for all the details, but the short of it is this. Bill Murray would never allow them to use his likeness. In 2004, NECA tried to get him to agree so they could use him for an action figure from Ghostbusters. He declined not once but twice. Also, unless this game company already acquired the rights, they won't get them. GBs is owned by Sony...and unless this game is made for PS3 only, don't expect Sony to give up the rights so a competitor can make a game using their franchise.

Bobby007
01-19-2007, 10:11 AM
The game footage I saw looks pretty damn good. Kind of like Gears of War or Resident Evil 4.

droidguy1119
01-19-2007, 11:32 AM
The game will never happen for a few reasons. Head over to AICN for all the details, but the short of it is this. Bill Murray would never allow them to use his likeness. In 2004, NECA tried to get him to agree so they could use him for an action figure from Ghostbusters. He declined not once but twice. Also, unless this game company already acquired the rights, they won't get them. GBs is owned by Sony...and unless this game is made for PS3 only, don't expect Sony to give up the rights so a competitor can make a game using their franchise.The franchise is owned by Sony, but apparently the cast own the rights to their individual characters. All Sony would have to license is the name, and all that would take is for ZootFly to agree to develop the game for both PS3 and XBOX.

Murray licensing his likeness is the least likely part of the equation, but I repeat that I think that if Aykroyd and Ramis and Hudson are all on board and they grant Murray his requests they might be able to talk him into it. The NECA story is disappointing, but it is also something that doesn't actually involve Murray creatively, it's simply merchandise. His policy might be different.

Also, he is notoriously hard to get ahold of (for movie offers, he just has a voicemail box he checks every couple of months), it is possible that he never actually saw the figures and his agent declined automatically.

SJBKAT
01-19-2007, 01:27 PM
The franchise is owned by Sony, but apparently the cast own the rights to their individual characters. All Sony would have to license is the name, and all that would take is for ZootFly to agree to develop the game for both PS3 and XBOX.

Murray licensing his likeness is the least likely part of the equation, but I repeat that I think that if Aykroyd and Ramis and Hudson are all on board and they grant Murray his requests they might be able to talk him into it. The NECA story is disappointing, but it is also something that doesn't actually involve Murray creatively, it's simply merchandise. His policy might be different.

Also, he is notoriously hard to get ahold of (for movie offers, he just has a voicemail box he checks every couple of months), it is possible that he never actually saw the figures and his agent declined automatically.


Naw, I heard Murray doesn't have an agent or a manager. I suppose you have a point with the action figure though. I just was disappointed that those never came to fruition. I just can't understand why Murray wouldn't want to do another Ghostbusters movie. I personally would not have minded if he died in the movie, then returned as a ghost. I think the comedic possibilities for that plot point would have been endless. I just hope that Murray agrees to the likeness in the game. Maybe even provide some voice overs for the character. Hell, Clint Eastwood, Thomas Jane and Bruce Willis have all done it in the past. I'm just trying to see the logic behind some of Murray's decisions.

TheOneBillyX
01-19-2007, 02:12 PM
one day

OzzMosiz
01-23-2007, 09:46 AM
The could probably make another one for about 70-80mill and it would rake in the money!
Have them compete with a younger group of busters.

spide-ed
01-23-2007, 10:28 AM
The 1999 idea sounds too cliched.

It wont happen and it shouldnt without Bill Murray.

Ewok Droppings
02-03-2007, 03:46 AM
Interesting news that it is now on it's way as a CGI film. In the interview Aykroyd said that "Billy" wouldn't come on stage to act his part (I assume he means Bill Murray)??? I wonder why he won't do it? It's not like he's cranking out the hits these days.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18723

droidguy1119
02-03-2007, 12:02 PM
Aykroyd said Bill would do it as it is, as a voice-over role. Good enough for me.

RiddleMeThis?
02-03-2007, 01:04 PM
I'm intrigued by the idea of another Ghostbusters movie. But I gotta say, CG animated humans tend to look very poor. And I don't think it will have the same effect without that 80's flair. I mean, Ray Parker Jr. Run DMC and Glenn Frey made those films what they were. Modern music would contrast the Ghostbusters image.

And they still haven't released the entire "The REAL Ghostbusters" on DVD in it's entirety yet.

Dogbert0228
02-03-2007, 03:06 PM
Interesting news that it is now on it's way as a CGI film. In the interview Aykroyd said that "Billy" wouldn't come on stage to act his part (I assume he means Bill Murray)??? I wonder why he won't do it? It's not like he's cranking out the hits these days.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18723

Yes, Bill Murray is in fact cranking out the hits, including Lost In Translation and Life Aquatic. If I were making smart, critically aclaimed films like Murray, I wouldn't go back to Ghostbusters either.

JBond
02-03-2007, 03:24 PM
Don't forget "The Royal Tenebaums"

Hannibal King
02-03-2007, 05:59 PM
If I were making smart, critically aclaimed films like Murray, I wouldn't go back to Ghostbusters either.

That's all fine and dandy, but Murray wouldn't even let them use his likeness rights for a freaking Ghostbusters action figure. Now a person that has met Aykroyd recently said Ghostbusters 3 would follow more of the RGB looks, because of you guessed it, Bill. Whether they were confused or not remains to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised though. I don't think they all like each other, well Murray anyway. As Harold Ramis describes him, "He is the most fascinating and talented pain in the ass we know." He wanted Bill in The Ice Harvest, but Bill never returned his call. I don't think its just a coincidence that they haven't had contact since Groundhog Day.

What do you know, CG-GB3 means Bill doesn't have to see any of them face to face...

Oh and I must add, make no mistake, Bill Murray is one of my favorite actors and I don't hold anything against him, just bringing up details that Im sure lead to whatever this turns out to be. After all, it's his right to do what he damn well pleases IMO, even if I don't like some things.

DAN!
02-03-2007, 06:19 PM
a cgi movie sounds terrible. i would consider a 3rd with the right concept. but no cgi for me. i don't like it

ddel54
02-03-2007, 08:45 PM
a cgi movie sounds terrible. i would consider a 3rd with the right concept. but no cgi for me. i don't like it


Yea Im 100% with u on this one....I think it would be way to childish to be CGI....It would be awesome if they make it a live action again and a much darker film....i think that would be cool

droidguy1119
02-03-2007, 10:02 PM
That's all fine and dandy, but Murray wouldn't even let them use his likeness rights for a freaking Ghostbusters action figure. Now a person that has met Aykroyd recently said Ghostbusters 3 would follow more of the RGB looks, because of you guessed it, Bill. Whether they were confused or not remains to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised though. I don't think they all like each other, well Murray anyway. As Harold Ramis describes him, "He is the most fascinating and talented pain in the ass we know." He wanted Bill in The Ice Harvest, but Bill never returned his call.Murray not returning Ramis' call is just a downside of Murray's work setup. He doesn't have an agent, just a voicemail box he checks infrequently, which leads him to miss films he auditioned for and actually wanted to be in (Monsters, Inc., Charlie and the Chocolate Factory). I think it is not that he was shunting his friend, but simply that if he misses a job it isn't the end of the world to him.

As for his likeness, the radio interview had Aykroyd claiming Bill had only recently been convinced, so I think this is a new development, and the action figure, while a disappointing turn of events, is fair enough -- the figure requires no creative input on Bill's part and perhaps he just didn't want to be "merchandised" out.

LastGhostbustersFan
02-06-2007, 03:04 PM
http://www.cisnfm.com/station/blog_mike_mcguire.cfm?bid=7500&med=30179

Akroyd confirms the project??

droidguy1119
02-06-2007, 07:50 PM
Yes, as mentioned above...any and all current Ghostbusters hype is directly related to that interview.

ALP
02-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Dan has spoke of a GB3 since the 90s.

It'll never happen. GB was one of my favorite movies. I sat around waiting for another for years, never got it. Shame, but we'll never get another Ghostbusters movie.

Btw, every 5 years or so, Dan Aykroyd brings up the concept of another Ghostbusters movie because his career is failing, and it never goes through. I feel sorry for the man.

Hopefully, we get a reboot or another company comes in and makes their own version of Ghostbusters(with a new name) since Sony refuses

capt jack sparrow
02-12-2007, 08:14 PM
ok it's offical HOLLYWOOD - Moviemaker Harold Ramis is trying to bring his Ghostbusters movie franchise
back to the big screen--and he wants Ben Stiller to star in a third film.

Ramis reveals Ghostbusters star Dan Aykroyd has written a new script, called Ghostbusters in Hell, and Ramis is keen to get the project started.

He tells InFocus magazine he wants Stiller to join Aykroyd and Rick Moranis in the sequel.

Aykroyd's script transports the bumbling ghostbusters into a parallel dimension via a portal in a New York warehouse.

Ramis explains, "What Danny had originally conceived was sending us to a special-effects hell--a netherworld full of phenomenal visual environments and boiling pits.

"But what works so well about the first two (films) is the mundane-ness of it all. So my notion was that hell exists in the same place as our consensus reality, but it's like a film shutter--it's the darkness between the 24 frames.

"So we create a device to do it, and it's in a warehouse in Brooklyn. When we step out of the chamber, it looks just like New York, but it's hell--everything's grid locked; no cars are moving and all the drivers are swearing at each other in different foreign languages. No two people speak the same language. It's all the worst things about modern urban life, just magnified."

capt jack sparrow
02-13-2007, 01:54 PM
hey dunno if this but brought up i was just reading an intresting article on ign talkin bout how it seems like ghostbusters 3 is movin forward heres an article on the script from ign

July 30, 2002 - Stax here with my reaction to the screenplay for Ghostbusters 3: Hellbent! This 122-page first draft dated March 10, 1999 is by actor Dan Aykroyd, based on a story by Aykroyd and co-star Harold Ramis. Sadly, this highly anticipated sequel appears quite dead now. The many reasons why this Columbia Pictures-based project likely won't get off the ground are cited below.

Dan Aykroyd last addressed Ghostbusters 3 back in November 1999, several months after this draft is dated. The original Ghostbuster advised Access Hollywood that GB3 "doesn't look like it's going to happen for the same reason they aren't going to make Men in Black 2." (And we all know what happened with that project now, don't we?) "The cost is too excessive for the studio to see it to be economically feasible," said Akyroyd. "It is a shame too because everyone wants to do it. Even Bill Murray said he would work a few days on it. I did finish a script. Harold Ramis liked parts of it. [Series director] Ivan Reitman liked parts of it too. There is definitely an interest from all of the original parties involved to make it. However, the studio just does not want to take the risk. In my opinion, the successes of the other two give the impression that there is a good chance of profit for a third sequel. So unfortunately, it looks like its just not going to happen based on the studio's feelings, not from anyone else."

Harold Ramis told Entertainment Weekly back in February 1999 that the "dream plan is that Danny and I would produce it, I would direct it, and we would recruit some newer, younger, popular Ghostbusters to star." Cinescape Online reported in 1998 that the "film is rumored to follow Raymond Stantz (Aykroyd) and Egon Spengler (Ramis) as they cope with Peter Venkman's (Bill Murray) departure with Dana Barrett (Sigourney Weaver), plus their attempt to stay employed while fighting a new otherworldly entity, possibly Hades, the Greek god of the underworld."

Having now read this March 1999 draft, I can confirm that the sequel does adhere to that general plot line (at least in this draft). Without revealing too many spoilers, Ghostbusters 3: Hellbent suggests that hell (portrayed as a stygian mirror image of The Big Apple dubbed “Manhellton”) has grown overcrowded and congested. As a result, hell is literally evicting people back into the world of the living in order to alleviate their congestion problem.

Obviously, this isn’t good for our world so the Ghostbusters must use their latest technology to literally go to hell and ask the devil why he’s doing this and to see what they can do to make him stop. Naturally, the devil – portrayed here as a Donald Trump-like mogul named Siffler – has a secret agenda that leads to a grand conflict with our titular heroes. The Ghostbusters must once again save New York City from the evil forces of the afterlife.

There is indeed a younger crop of Ghostbusters (or, as the script abbreviates it, GBs) introduced that perform much of the otherworldly legwork here. This new crew includes: Franky, a body-pierced, tough New Jersey punker; Lovell, a dread-locked dude; Moira, a pretty but uptight gymnast and science grad; and Carla, a Latino beauty. There’s also Nat, a prepubescent genius whose powerful brain has made his head abnormally large. Despite his youth, Nat serves as a supervisor for the new GBs. That’s all we ever get to know about these characters (we don’t even learn their last names!) and they’re our guides throughout most of the story.

I’m not exactly asking for brilliantly delineated characterizations here but even the original team had their own distinct personalities, voices, and senses of humor. These young bucks are practically interchangeable. They all behave and sound alike, and get along relatively well. There’s no real conflict between them nor is there a dominant personality as there was amongst the original GBs. These would be the script’s worst mistakes if it weren’t for the revelation that these young turks aren’t especially funny or charming, either.

That’s what shocked and disappointed me the most about this draft of Ghostbusters 3: it was more jargon than jokes. Bill Murray/Peter Venkman doesn’t appear until the end and then it’s only a cameo (he’s portrayed in a way you’ve never seen before, which was the script’s most memorable gag). There’s also no sign of Sigourney Weaver‘s character Dana nor is there any mention of her kid Oscar (remember him?), who you’d think might be included among these new, younger GBs given his importance in the last film.



Ivan Reitman

Ray (Aykroyd), Egon (Ramis), and Winston (Ernie Hudson, now referred to as “Dr. Zeddemore”) have prominent supporting roles here. (Louis Tully and Janine have cameos.) The action is driven forward by the younger GBs. Whenever the original GBs are in a scene, my interest – and the story itself – picked up. I’ve never been a huge fan of TV series or films featuring “the next generation” of characters, with Star Trek being an arguable exception (although I still prefer the classic Trek).

You fall in love with some characters for very specific reasons and sometimes it’s just impossible to see new actors take over those series/franchises. I think Ghostbusters might be such a case but if these new GBs had more personality, if they were developed further, perhaps I’d have accepted the transition. I just never cared about these new Ghostbusters, though.

The plot line about hell being overcrowded and needing to evict people was relatively amusing but isn’t the whole “New York is Hell” sentiment rather tired now? And I don’t even want to get into the post-9/11 issues that any film about New York City being endangered will likely face now. (Of course, I compartmentalized those issues given that this script predates the tragedies.) Rather than it being the wrong time for GB3 perhaps now might actually be the perfect time for it. After all, the Ghostbusters films offer pure escapism, politically correct villains, and a wish fulfillment/fantasy about being able to save The Big Apple from (excuse the phrase) phantom menaces. I just can't say that I liked the GB3 yarn that this draft offered.

As a huge fan of the original film, I’d much rather see a GB3 where the old gang must strap their backpacks on for one last mission (even without Murray, though he’d be sorely missed) rather than see pretenders to the throne get the bulk of screen time. That’s just me, though. Obviously, the series’ creators see the sequel differently so I must respect their ideas. I just wasn't as entertained by this draft as I wanted to be (and I really wanted to love this script). Given that there has been no development on this project for almost three years, however, my reservations about Ghostbusters 3 appear to be moot. – STAX

also ramis has more say on the movie here http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/708/708806p1.html

the script sounds good hopefully it will be better than ice harvest ive always been good for a another ghostbusters movie :)

it's ghostbusters in hell