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Doomsday
02-19-2009, 08:05 PM
And I shouted for joy when I saw Agent Pierce in the credits.
I didn't see it in the credits, but when I saw him on the screen my heart skipped a beat. They sure do know how to make up for what they broke last season.
slinger
02-19-2009, 09:26 PM
I still sense Larry being a D-bag throughout this whole show too, lol
There always has to be a d-bag superior in 24. Then the later change their ways.
Tornado
02-23-2009, 08:13 PM
Holy **** that was intense.
slinger
02-23-2009, 08:59 PM
Holy **** that was intense.
Next week should top that.
2 hour 24. Siege on the White House.
moviebuff801
02-23-2009, 09:08 PM
LOVED that scene between Jack and Renee, plus that car chase was very intense, like Tornado said.
Can't wait for next week's 2 hours!
slinger
02-23-2009, 10:18 PM
Don't forget the Jack/Tony discussion. Really liked that.
ViRUs
02-24-2009, 09:41 AM
That was ok, could have been done better in my opinion, but I still liked it.
I also like how they didnt drag out capturing that guy in the FBI (forget his name) for like six episodes. You can tell they have everything together this year. They would have dragged that story on for the next couple episodes when they were just winging it.
saveus1011
02-24-2009, 04:40 PM
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Damnit! I'm going to miss out on next week due to reasons of Watchmen. Fair trade but still!
IanTheCool
02-24-2009, 07:46 PM
I like how the plot managed to make a cohesive transition into the next attack....... oh wait, it didn't. At all.
Doomsday
02-25-2009, 01:51 AM
Reminded me of season 6 when they stopped the nuke threat and Jack IMMEDIATELY received a phone call from the Chinese saying they had Audrey. Convenient, extremely convenient.
Tolkien
02-25-2009, 03:26 AM
Well it's better than having an entire episode where they're just sitting around and nothing's happening. lol.
Daniel
02-25-2009, 04:12 AM
That episode was indeed amazing. A lot happened, a lot more than I thought they would tie up in one, solitary episode. Can't wait to see the two hour episode next week.
JBond
02-25-2009, 02:47 PM
I thought it was going to be Hillinger's work fling.
BOO-ya!
ViRUs
02-25-2009, 07:09 PM
you were half right ;)
JBond
02-25-2009, 07:44 PM
Actually, I was completely right, I didn't say she was the only one. ;)
ViRUs
02-26-2009, 11:36 AM
lol, well done........well done
Handsome Rob
02-26-2009, 01:51 PM
Had to chime in, been a while since I was on the boards period. Will have to say that this is a great season so far. I mean there are always unbelievable plot lines, but the show is just entertaining, and with this last episode, becoming a great season overall.
Loved the car chase and subsequent heroic flip of the Jeep
Hated that the girl had to die (but come on she might as well have been wearing a red shirt from the get go)
Loved the hospital scene with Walker and Bauer ('if you ever aim your firearm at me again, you better intend on using it", "I was")
Hated the President/scorned daughter scene
FailedEagle
02-26-2009, 10:59 PM
I'm calling it right now, the President's daughter is a lesbian. Just has that vibe to it.
Ewok Droppings
02-26-2009, 11:07 PM
The threats this season just seem... not very threatening.
Doomsday
02-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Well, once you have a nuclear weapon, a nationwide biohazard, malfunctioning power plants, more nuclear weapons, nerve gas, a hijacked submarine, more nuclear weapons, and a malfunctioning pesticide plant, it's hard to be a terrorist and come up with original ideas. ;)
Sculder
02-27-2009, 05:36 PM
This year its not about the threats but about the thing that torture is bad mkay
ViRUs
02-27-2009, 07:02 PM
wasnt everyone saying that this show needs to be more personal? Now they are complaining that it's not big enough?
IanTheCool
02-27-2009, 07:16 PM
Well, once you have a nuclear weapon, a nationwide biohazard, malfunctioning power plants, more nuclear weapons, nerve gas, a hijacked submarine, more nuclear weapons, and a malfunctioning pesticide plant, it's hard to be a terrorist and come up with original ideas. ;)
wasnt everyone saying that this show needs to be more personal? Now they are complaining that it's not big enough?
I think some sort of planet-destroying space station would be a good idea.
ViRUs
02-27-2009, 08:13 PM
"Jack, you have to sneak onto NASA's rocket and steer it into the space station to destroy it. "
I like that actually
JBond
02-27-2009, 09:14 PM
wasnt everyone saying that this show needs to be more personal? Now they are complaining that it's not big enough?
I'm not. I think it's funny that the show is the best it's been in a while and I don't give a crap abuot a huge threat.
ViRUs
02-28-2009, 02:19 PM
I agree, I want to see more about Tony and Jack. Jack and Renee, even the people that are close to Jack that we've seen in the past. I wouldnt be surprised if they show up.
Ewok Droppings
02-28-2009, 02:58 PM
I keep thinking they'll bring back Edgar. Hell, if Tony can survive - why not Edgar? We need his skills!!!!
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But didn't poor Edgar get a silent clock? Still I do think Chloe's got her hands full with Janice now.
It was an action packed 2 episodes we got this week. And my Renee was acting a little brave going for Juma's boat. I guess Juma and his men have been on US soil since the beginning.
And Jon Voight makes an appearance at last with Rory Cochrane as his assistant. Guess he hasn't been doing much since the killing off of his Tim Speedle on CSI: Miami and A Scanner Darkly.
During the storming of the White House here I was freaking out if they were gonna kill Bill. Thank God for that.
IanTheCool
03-03-2009, 10:20 AM
That was awesome. Great double episode, very intense. I was worried for two main characters throughout the whole night.
JBond
03-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Yes, I was worried for Pierce and very worried for Bill.
Ewok Droppings
03-03-2009, 09:18 PM
But didn't poor Edgar get a silent clock?
Didn't Tony get a silent clock though? I can't remember...
Great episodes - my only regret is that Janeane Garofalo's character (Janice I think her name is) wasn't amongst the dead. Her character is annoying - plus she nailed Chloe. She deserves to get tortured at least once this season.
moviebuff801
03-03-2009, 09:20 PM
I really enjoyed last night's episodes as well, but the biggest problem I had was how easy it was for Juma to storm the White House. I mean, c'mon, the military would've been all over his ass.
Tolkien
03-04-2009, 04:10 PM
I have to say that I had only ONE problem with the two-hour amazing episode on Monday, and that would have had to have been the initial assault on the White House. First off, there were just waaaaaaay too little resistance on BOTH ends. In reality, if Juma stormed the White House, he would have (or at least in my opinion) used far more men. They said it was his special republic guards or something, but damn, they looked like an actual group of guards, rather than an invasion force, lol. I just feel that it would have been cooler of he had more men. A lot more men.
Second, the security presence in the White House was DISGUSTING to say the least. Okay, I saw plenty of Secret Service men so that was a plus, but what the hell, what happened to all of the god damn soldiers that was roaming around the White House just moments earlier? They went on lunch break or something? I mean, when the President went to the hospital, she had a company of soldiers at her side. Where were they now? It's like the whole building just emptied out before Juma got there. There should have been a lot more people in that building. Especially personnel.
And Third, remember the kickass bunker that the President[s] had in the previous seasons? The one under the White House? What happen to it? Was it closed for repairs? They didn't even make for that. Instead, they made for some stupid lockdown room no bigger than my living room. Yes, I could go on, but I think I made my point(s) already. I just didn't like the initial attack on the White House. Don't get me wrong, I loved that two hour episode, I did. I just didn't like how the assault was handled. I mean, they just got the list of names and are making arrests. The government is in chaos and no one is to be trusted. So why wasn't the White House full up with soldiers and secret service agents? Why?
Dogbert0228
03-05-2009, 09:37 PM
I have to say that I had only ONE problem with the two-hour amazing episode on Monday, and that would have had to have been the initial assault on the White House. First off, there were just waaaaaaay too little resistance on BOTH ends. In reality, if Juma stormed the White House, he would have (or at least in my opinion) used far more men. They said it was his special republic guards or something, but damn, they looked like an actual group of guards, rather than an invasion force, lol. I just feel that it would have been cooler of he had more men. A lot more men.
Second, the security presence in the White House was DISGUSTING to say the least. Okay, I saw plenty of Secret Service men so that was a plus, but what the hell, what happened to all of the god damn soldiers that was roaming around the White House just moments earlier? They went on lunch break or something? I mean, when the President went to the hospital, she had a company of soldiers at her side. Where were they now? It's like the whole building just emptied out before Juma got there. There should have been a lot more people in that building. Especially personnel.
And Third, remember the kickass bunker that the President[s] had in the previous seasons? The one under the White House? What happen to it? Was it closed for repairs? They didn't even make for that. Instead, they made for some stupid lockdown room no bigger than my living room. Yes, I could go on, but I think I made my point(s) already. I just didn't like the initial attack on the White House. Don't get me wrong, I loved that two hour episode, I did. I just didn't like how the assault was handled. I mean, they just got the list of names and are making arrests. The government is in chaos and no one is to be trusted. So why wasn't the White House full up with soldiers and secret service agents? Why?
Agreed. End of 711, they're drilling SOMEwhere off the Potomac, then at beginning of 712 there's a giant gaping hole for them to go up through... All a bit too implausible to stomach.
But once they're in, they're in and there's never any going back to answer plot holes in 24, just have to roll with it. I'm guessing the solution to the predicament will be equally unbelievable, but in 24, as long as it's exciting not a whole else matters, and this season is certainly exciting so far. Glad Voight is finally involved.
Dogbert0228
03-05-2009, 10:03 PM
Spoiler for Monday 3/9:
A longtime and much loved character will die while trying to save President Taylor.
mrjimm1
03-05-2009, 10:14 PM
I really enjoyed last night's episodes as well, but the biggest problem I had was how easy it was for Juma to storm the White House. I mean, c'mon, the military would've been all over his ass.
I must agree, for a few minutes there my credulity was tested by this development. But it's 24. Like the thread title says, the best drama on television. I've been enthralled by this show for over seven years, and am constantly surprised by the way they keep me watching breathlessly. These are some clevers writers here, who continue to come up with riveting scenarios and interesting predicaments. I'm willing to suspend my disbelief while watching, and that helps when unbelievable things happen. I'll continue to tune in Monday nights through the 8th season and beyond. I'm just happy this show has been successful for so long. Go, Fox, go!
Tornado
03-05-2009, 11:26 PM
Spoiler for Monday 3/9:
A longtime and much loved character will die while trying to save President Taylor.
It's gotta be Aaron. I don't think they'd kill off Bill yet, and there's no way Jack/Chloe/Tony will be dying anytime soon.
Also, Monday night's episodes were pretty good, but yeah I don't quite buy the storming of the White House either. It seemed pretty far-fetched. Also, why wouldn't the guy who was chasing Renee just shoot her when he caught up to her? He was shooting at her earlier and didn't seem to care about obtaining information from her, but of course he conveniently held off until the FBI were able to show up and kill him. Oh well.
Well the same thing happened when Juma had the opportunity to off Bill. :rolleyes:
Damn if Aaron dies then Logan's ex will be living without another partner. I wonder if she'll appear later in the season even if were a small guest spot like Morris.
And I will be crying if they Kill Bill.
moviebuff801
03-09-2009, 11:11 PM
They killed Bill. :( Seriously, I had tears in my eyes when it happened. It just came like a blow to the gut. R.I.P. Bill.
I am LOVING this season. They really are doing a good job so far.
Tornado
03-09-2009, 11:41 PM
Yeah, I'm surprised they killed Bill too. I knew a fan favorite would be dying this week, but I had kind of pointed the finger at Aaron. That's too bad though, I liked Bill almost as much as I like Jack. :(
The episode was solid though. Season 7 is great so far. I'm anxious to see where the season goes from here now that Juma is dead.
Doomsday
03-10-2009, 12:47 AM
24 is dead to me.
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 01:15 AM
...Bill. :(
So so so sad for Bill. He was one of my favourite characters on the show and he'll surely be missed.
RIP Bill Buchanan. :(
I wonder if Karen will make an appearance soon.
Chessh2936
03-10-2009, 02:34 AM
I NEVER cry for movies or tv, but when Bill ran for that room I knew he was dead... but a part of me was hoping he would open his eyes but after that silent clock, i knew we had a lost a great man.
I would have rather had Aaron go lol
poor bill :(
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 09:05 AM
Maybe that's why it was Bill over Aaron. Because if one had to die, we'd be banking on Aaron more than anyone else. To have Bill die instead was a sudden and abrupt shocker that we didn't see coming until it was already too late. I hate when 24 does that. Of course, it plays perfect for the dramatic elements of the show, but it's always sad because it's always someone you wish didn't die in the end (i.e. Edger, Tony, Palmer).
ViRUs
03-10-2009, 10:18 AM
Yeah I was shocked to see Bill go as well. It was a great little seen afterwards with Jack just kind of sitting there in shock. He will definitely be missed :(
I wonder how Tony and Chloe will react.
On a brighter note, this season has picked since Voight came in. It's definitely a lot better than last season.
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 10:37 AM
Tony will be affected by it, but he's not all that big on emotions right now. Chloe will most likely take it hard. And I think this season is better than the last three seasons. The last season being the worst of the three.
ViRUs
03-10-2009, 01:50 PM
really? I thought season five was probably the best season out of all of them.
Tornado
03-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Yeah, I doubt they'll ever top the greatness of Season 5 IMO. It's one of the finest seasons of any television show ever, as far as I'm concerned.
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 01:56 PM
I don't know, maybe it's just me. I've always thought that Season 1 was the best in my opinion, because it wasn't this whole nationwide event that was happening or some kind of worldwide situation involving other countries and whatnot. It was Jack Bauer and David Palmer on a personal level, dealing with closer to home situations instead of nationwide attacks. But season 5? It's been over a year, so I have to check wiki and find out which one was that.
Tornado
03-10-2009, 02:02 PM
I don't know, maybe it's just me. I've always thought that Season 1 was the best in my opinion, because it wasn't this whole nationwide event that was happening or some kind of worldwide situation involving other countries and whatnot. It was Jack Bauer and David Palmer on a personal level, dealing with closer to home situations instead of nationwide attacks. But season 5? It's been over a year, so I have to check wiki and find out which one was that.
My problem with Season 1 is the goofy-ass second half. I think the theory was that the show would be canceled after the first half of the season, so they wrapped everything up then at that point. But when they weren't, they came up with Teri's amnesia and the new villain that came out of nowhere for the second half.
Unrelated, but I loved that someone finally acknowledged that if they trusted Jack more, none of these issues would have come up. The joke of the series has always kind of been, "If everybody just let Jack do what he wanted to do, then the show would be called 4 instead of 24."
ViRUs
03-10-2009, 02:51 PM
lol, yeah, that was definitely a cool part. He finely gets some props for all the crazy stuff that works.
JBond
03-10-2009, 03:01 PM
I think Season 2 will always be my favorite. But its hard to judge when nothing can compare to the first three seasons I watched on DVD in a blink of an eye. Only my addiction to the first season of Lost on DVD can cmpare with that intial burst that got me into 24. No matter how well they put a season together after that, it will never compare to when the show was fresh.
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 03:31 PM
So I went back to check. It was season 3, season 4 and season 6 that I didn't enjoy. Those were the three I remember thinking it could have been a lot better than it actually was.
saveus1011
03-10-2009, 04:22 PM
Yeah, I'm playing "Still the Same" for Bill right now.
IanTheCool
03-10-2009, 07:15 PM
I think Season 2 will always be my favorite. But its hard to judge when nothing can compare to the first three seasons I watched on DVD in a blink of an eye. Only my addiction to the first season of Lost on DVD can cmpare with that intial burst that got me into 24. No matter how well they put a season together after that, it will never compare to when the show was fresh.
Exactly. I think 2 is my favorite as well. There was a real sense of urgency in each episode which the other seasons have never been able to capture quite as well.
slinger
03-10-2009, 07:53 PM
Exactly. I think 2 is my favorite as well. There was a real sense of urgency in each episode which the other seasons have never been able to capture quite as well.
Plus the whole "no one believes/trusts Jack Bauer", "Jack Bauer has gone rogue", "Jack Bauer committed a crime and needs to be arrested" has been done too many times.
This season is better than the 6th but still its disappointing and not as good as 1-5. Maybe the last 11 episodes can push it above seasons 3 or 4.
Season 5
Season 2
Season 1
Season 3
Season 4
Season 7
Season 6
MasterChief117
03-10-2009, 08:24 PM
It was a decent episode but that entire goofy ass thing with the assassin was just so lame. Why the hell would Jack run? A quick check in his throat or nostrils would show signs of Nerve Gas inhaling, same with the Burnett.
Not to mention, I notice it more but more and more with 24 they always say its done then something else happens. DOES ANYBODY ACTUALLY REMEMBER HOW THIS SEASON STARTED?? Cause I sure as hell don't.
JBond
03-10-2009, 08:31 PM
Am I the only one who remembers what crap Season 4 was?
IanTheCool
03-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Am I the only one who remembers what crap Season 4 was?
Explain further.
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 08:42 PM
He could, but he doesn't have to to me. I already said it was one of my least liked.
Best:
Season 1
Season 2
Season 5
Worst:
Season 3
Season 4
Season 6
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 08:47 PM
Not to mention, I notice it more but more and more with 24 they always say its done then something else happens. DOES ANYBODY ACTUALLY REMEMBER HOW THIS SEASON STARTED?? Cause I sure as hell don't.
Jack's in the Senate Hearings being tried for Crimes Against Humanity,
Latham is kidnapped by Tony who is still alive and apparently a baddie.
It's not that hard to remember, seeing as how it JUST started this year.
;)
JBond
03-10-2009, 08:51 PM
Explain further.
Episode 8:
Jack: Tell me everything you know!
Bad guy #4: I know nothing!
*Torture*
Bad Guy #4: Ok! You're looking for Bad Guy #3. He's located at this building!
Episode 9:
Jack: Tell me everything you know!
Bad guy #3: I know nothing!
*Torture*
Bad Guy #3: Ok! You're looking for Bad Guy #2. He's located at this building!
*Something explodes*
Episode 10:
...
And so on.
Tolkien
03-10-2009, 08:54 PM
Well at least he was finding the bad guys. Thats more than the LAPD could say. lol.
But yeah, 4 was pretty bad.
ViRUs
03-11-2009, 01:20 PM
yeah season four was bad, i didnt like it either. Lets not forget that the Secretary of Defense's son/Audrey's brother was tortured too, only to find out he was gay, lol.
Tolkien
03-11-2009, 01:39 PM
What a way to come out of the closet, lol. I wonder if he was still Gay after that ordeal?
Doomsday
03-11-2009, 04:01 PM
Unrelated, but I loved that someone finally acknowledged that if they trusted Jack more, none of these issues would have come up. The joke of the series has always kind of been, "If everybody just let Jack do what he wanted to do, then the show would be called 4 instead of 24."
I noticed the exact same thing, fiiiiinally one of the characters notices. ;)
carnage4u
03-12-2009, 06:57 AM
The only season i didnt like as much as the rest was season 3, and that still had some good moments, but overall I didnt think it was that special.
I watched seasons 1 thru 6 on DVD, and even though I knew 50% of the spoilers I enjoy the show more that way
I make myself turn the show off when it ends. I find seeing next weeks preview ruins way to much.
IanTheCool
03-12-2009, 10:49 AM
I make myself turn the show off when it ends. I find seeing next weeks preview ruins way to much.
I've found that too. I stopped watching previews for all shows. They either give away too much or are edited so that they are very deceiving and they have a lot of people assuming certain things are going to be happening.
ViRUs
03-12-2009, 11:42 AM
yeah i do the same thing. Back around seasons 2-3 of 24 they gave away everything about the show. I eventually stopped watching them and liked not knowing what happends next week so I dont watch previews at all either.
Dogbert0228
03-17-2009, 12:02 AM
As far as filler episodes go, tonight was one of the best.
Maybe it wasn't so much filler as a simple turning point episode - just enough is revealed to really set the rest of the season in motion?
Overall fun, interesting, and it really feels like it's going somewhere, unlike the second half of last season.
ViRUs
03-17-2009, 09:44 AM
Yeah i agree, it was just ok.
If you were Morris would you really think that thats what Chloe wanted? You know that she was helping him, and she always had, would you really think that Jack is now a bad guy? You know it will all be ok in the end.
Oh well, it really didnt matter I guess. I guess it was just a way to speed up the process of the FBI finding Mayer
I really hope Chloe gets to slap that Janice cow. She's really becoming a total b*tch. And Jack being framed yet again. Just gets harder for the poor fella. :(
And Moss is a real douche. Yeah he's doing his job but he's still a douche. :rolleyes:
saveus1011
03-18-2009, 04:27 PM
All caught up now. The newest episode was definitely not as action packed as the other episodes, but they needed a breather after three in a row of pure action. That screwdriver/2x4 kill owned.
LOVE:
-The fact I'm rooting for a Bob Gunton character, as wrong as that seems.
-President Allison Taylor. Maybe the best president character the series has had, or maybe it's the way Cherry Jones plays her.
-Morris and Chloe, just because.
-Rack Bauer...I mean Renee Walker.
-Tony Almedia being Jack's on-call man.
-Vintage Jack is back.
-Jon Voight and Speedle actually seem to have a motive behind what they're doing, at least that's how it came off to me.
NOT LOVING:
-Olivia Taylor, hope the ***** is shot.
-Janis Gould, maybe the biggest ***** the series has had.
-Larry Moss. He was at first becoming likable, but now he's just a giant douchebag who's completely emasculated.
-Bill is dead. I almost cried.
Overall, they're doing a lot more good than bad and so far it's rivaling the best of the series. Oh, and the other major death...Kim Bauer.
JBond
03-18-2009, 05:44 PM
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with that last statement. Is that just a wish?
Dogbert0228
03-18-2009, 06:46 PM
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with that last statement. Is that just a wish?
I'm confused as well. Jack made it very clear in the previous episode that she was alive, she just didn't speak to him any more.
saveus1011
03-18-2009, 07:04 PM
Merely speculation is all. I thought I read somewhere she was coming back, and I just have this feeling they'd do it.
According to imdb she's being listed as appearing this season. Can't be too far away actually. And I pray that she doesn't die. Last thing I want is for Jack to lose his family completely. Though his father is still an evil bastard. :rolleyes:
Tornado
03-18-2009, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I heard she's coming back for the final 5 episodes of the season.
I'd be very surprised if they kill her off. I know Teri was killed off, partly because the producers wanted to make the show seem different from everything else, and that certainly did it. But to kill off Kim would be... pointless, IMO.
And I still haven't seen this most recent episode.
JBond
03-18-2009, 10:56 PM
Yeah, they may as well have them reconcile.
IanTheCool
03-21-2009, 09:33 AM
This show rocked... that's all I can say. It's probably one of the best premieres I've ever seen. I give it an A+. Full of action, great acting, a hot undercurrent of sex, suspense had you on the edge for the entire show! By the end of the show, I ended up trusting NONE of the characters ('cept, of course, Kiefer).
w00master
I'm calling it now; Nina is the mole.
ViRUs
03-21-2009, 12:27 PM
is that the first response to this show?
IanTheCool
03-21-2009, 12:35 PM
haha yeah, its on the first page.
ViRUs
03-21-2009, 12:38 PM
Lol, it's funny how the first post talks about pre thoughts.
Tornado
03-21-2009, 01:39 PM
I'm calling it now; Nina is the mole.
You're crazy, it's clearly that Almeida guy.
JBond
03-21-2009, 03:24 PM
I just saw the pilot, and I'm calling it now, Kim's going to be attacked by a cougar next season.
Also, Edgar's going to die.
Tornado
03-21-2009, 03:31 PM
It seems likely that Jack will be kidnapped by the Chinese at some point. But then, obviously, he'll conveniently be released when we need him to die.
JBond
03-21-2009, 03:33 PM
I think Season 7 is looking to be a good one, but we're going to have to wait longer than usual to see due to Sutherland's upcoming arrest.
ViRUs
03-21-2009, 03:34 PM
I think Senator Palmer has a brother in politics too. He would make a good president.
Tornado
03-21-2009, 03:41 PM
One thing I hate about this show is how goofy the timeline is. I wonder how many fans of realize it's actually based sometime in the middle of the year 2014. I've always kind of thought they set it up this way so they could get away with writing in whatever fictional technology they wanted.
JBond
03-21-2009, 04:35 PM
Yeeeeeah, I've had this argument before. It's 2009. It's just wishwashy timey-wimey.
ViRUs
03-21-2009, 04:40 PM
yeah i thought that too, they never come out and say its that year, so I just always pretend its the present time, and all of the "in between time" between the two seasons is the actual time between the shows.
Or, what Bond said.
Tornado
03-21-2009, 04:42 PM
Yeeeeeah, I've had this argument before. It's 2009. It's just wishwashy timey-wimey.
Not quite. Take a look at the back covers of the DVD sets, it's always like "Set 18 months after Season 2" or "Set 3 years after Season 5."
There is more time passing then you think. Until they come right out and say, "It's 2009," I won't see it any other way.
JBond
03-21-2009, 05:55 PM
No, I'm quite aware of what you mean. The best I can explain it is, as soon as the next "X years later" shows up, the events of the last season have been set back in time X years. It sounds like a complex way of telling myself it's the present, but I think that's how they think it too. They just do that to get new presidents and stuff. I would bet that the producers think of it as present time, as well. "24" is timeless and always present.
Tornado
03-22-2009, 01:15 AM
That's stupid. ;)
JBond
03-22-2009, 03:41 PM
Then just pay attention to the last sentence in there. That's what I was slowly getting to. ;) It's as pointless to ask how James Bond could be in so many decades.
thebtskink
03-22-2009, 04:08 PM
Well if they actually went by those time frames between seasons, Jack would be in his sixties now. And that show would SUCK.
Tornado
03-22-2009, 05:31 PM
Then just pay attention to the last sentence in there. That's what I was slowly getting to. ;) It's as pointless to ask how James Bond could be in so many decades.
But they rarely establish an actual time frame in the Bond franchise. There are varying levels of technology and car models obviously, but they rarely flat out say/imply it's a specific year.
So no, it's definitely not the same thing.
JBond
03-22-2009, 05:37 PM
They don't flat out say the year in 24, either. The point is, they avoid it like the Bond series whenever possible, that's why you'll be waiting a long time for them to prove it one way or another.
Although, in For Your Eyes Only, I think it was, we see Tracy Bond's tombstone with her dying in the 60s.
Tornado
03-22-2009, 05:40 PM
They don't flat out say the year in 24, either. The point is, they avoid it like the Bond series whenever possible, that's why you'll be waiting a long time for them to prove it one way or another.
Yes they have, that's what I've been saying. ;)
Season 1 was described as "modern day." So whether that's 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, or another year around there, it doesn't matter. A lot of time has elapsed since then because of their goofy season write-ups. Period.
JBond
03-22-2009, 07:19 PM
"Modern day" is a year? And the James Bond movies aren't clearly present as well? Dont you see the contradiction in accepting this show is "modern" and at the same time, counting the years inbetween so they could get new presidents?
Dogbert0228
03-22-2009, 07:42 PM
I feel like we had this discussion about 24's timeline and Jack's age after Jack's return from China.
Tornado
03-22-2009, 10:32 PM
"Modern day" is a year? And the James Bond movies aren't clearly present as well? Dont you see the contradiction in accepting this show is "modern" and at the same time, counting the years inbetween so they could get new presidents?
I'm not going to change my position.
IanTheCool
03-23-2009, 12:26 AM
I'm not really bothered by the time line. If its set in 2014, that's okay with me.
I have a feeling that the next season is going to take place immediately after this season. Like the next 24 hours.
diemos
03-23-2009, 10:57 AM
I love 24. Though I have to admit the first 4 seasons were the best, because we had so many characters coming back and better stories.
saveus1011
03-23-2009, 06:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmm2RfN5brk
I thought it was funny.
Daniel
03-24-2009, 12:16 AM
I thought tonight's episode was the weakest of the season. I was pretty bored throughout.
Daniel
03-24-2009, 12:16 AM
Oh, and I really ****ing hate Olivia.
IanTheCool
03-24-2009, 01:11 AM
So is this setting up the final season then? Has Jack become George Mason?
ViRUs
03-24-2009, 10:16 AM
Thats what I was thinking too. This might just gurantee that the next season wont take place too far into the future.
As stupid as it may be, I hope that they just say that he wasnt exposed long enough to have any lasting damage.
Doomsday
03-24-2009, 02:36 PM
Or he could be 'immune' like Michelle was in Season 3. ;)
Tornado
03-24-2009, 04:08 PM
Sutherland is signed through Season 8, so either Day 8 will take place immediately or he just won't be affected by it.
saveus1011
03-24-2009, 04:17 PM
Oh, and I really ****ing hate Olivia.
One of the only times I'll agree with you. I want this season to end with Bauer putting a bullet between her eyes while Ethan turns his head.
Tolkien
03-24-2009, 04:39 PM
Or he could be 'immune' like Michelle was in Season 3. ;)
I don't know if it was just me but, I didn't see a leak at all. It looked more like the coolant system sprang a leak and he mistook it for the weapon it's self. It looked more like a coolant system meant to keep the actual weapon safe is what was damaged, not the weapon. I don't know, maybe it was just me.
ViRUs
03-24-2009, 05:08 PM
yeah, thats what I thought at first too. I mean, how else would the truck know that something was leaking. But when Bauer said he was exposed I believed him, simply because, well he's never wrong.
IanTheCool
03-24-2009, 06:42 PM
Sutherland is signed through Season 8, so either Day 8 will take place immediately or he just won't be affected by it.
I've thought for a while now that they may do back to back days for the last two seasons, though that was more of a "wouldn't it be cool it they..." thought. But now that may be looking likely.
Doomsday
03-24-2009, 07:10 PM
I always kinda wanted them to do that, have the seasons take place really close together rather than having them take place like 20 months apart or however long. I mean it doesn't have to be consecutive days, since 48 hours with no food or sleep will definitely raise some eyebrows, but maybe like 5 days or a week in between.
So Jack wasn't seriously infected then. Not contagious at least. For once Moss finally agrees and yeah Olivia is an absolute b*tch. What are the odds that she may be involved with Starkwood?
Oh and how about that doublecross from Seaton (Cochrane) thinking that interrogator was actually dead. Probably should have seen that coming. :(
Dogbert0228
04-01-2009, 11:19 AM
Sutherland is signed through Season 8, so either Day 8 will take place immediately or he just won't be affected by it.
OR, it was no coincidence that FOX made this public the same week the episode aired in which Jack was infected.
24 will end its finale one of these seasons with Jack dying to sacrifice himself (in my opinion) for America, so will this be it?
LP4Life
04-01-2009, 11:34 AM
i love this show.
Wolverine
04-01-2009, 11:58 AM
OR, it was no coincidence that FOX made this public the same week the episode aired in which Jack was infected.
24 will end its finale one of these seasons with Jack dying to sacrifice himself (in my opinion) for America, so will this be it?
Uh I don't know I thought they were still planning to do the 24 Movie after Season 8.
Dogbert0228
04-01-2009, 12:48 PM
Uh I don't know I thought they were still planning to do the 24 Movie after Season 8.
Which wouldn't be a problem if it focuses on Jack's days before CTU.
JBond
04-01-2009, 04:54 PM
I can't believe Braga wrote the name "Rick Berman" into his script last week. What a geek. (Look up the names if you don't understand)
Dogbert0228
04-01-2009, 05:30 PM
Brannon Braga and Rick Berman, together and repeated 3 times, will bring about a slow death brought about by a phaser set between stun and kill.
IanTheCool
04-01-2009, 05:34 PM
Was that Hazmat lady on the show in a previous season? Like Season 3 maybe?
JBond
04-01-2009, 06:19 PM
There was a hazmat lady?
That reminds me, what ever happeend to the "lesbian assassian" or whatever she was always refered to back in the day? Did she die? She was played by Mia something?...
Dogbert0228
04-01-2009, 07:06 PM
There was a big bio-threat in season 3 that turned out to be fake, but there was a female in charge of the CDC team. However, since that was LA and not DC, and the lady on Monday night didn't know Jack, I would say no, not the same lady. But IMDB is always your friend.
Must be thinking of Mia Kirschner. Lovely woman she is. :D
Didn't she get immunity soon after President Logan got poisoned in the 4th Season or something?
ViRUs
04-01-2009, 10:03 PM
Her name was Mandy I think. She did get some kind of immunity, and it must have been in season four because I remember little about that.
IanTheCool
04-01-2009, 10:17 PM
I hope she comes back.
moviebuff801
04-02-2009, 02:31 PM
And they actually kill her this time.
JBond
04-02-2009, 05:02 PM
No, they should end the series with her and Jack getting married. In fact, that's a good premise for the last season, a wedding is an all day affair. I see a side plot with Kim Bauer trying to kill her. "You're not my mother!"
Doomsday
04-04-2009, 01:01 AM
Event planner: Jack...it's the floral arrangements....the orchids are yellow, not white.
Jack: DAMMIT!
2:59:57.....2:59:58.....2:59:59.....3:00:00
moviebuff801
04-04-2009, 11:02 AM
Funny story, the creators of 24 have said in interviews that they originally conceived the idea as following a couple on their wedding day. But then they decided to make it an action/suspense show.
ViRUs
04-04-2009, 08:29 PM
really? I've never heard that before?
the elmo zombie
04-05-2009, 04:08 PM
yeah i heard that on the 24 E! true hollywood story thing a few years back
And once again 24 enters the small hours with an air strike that got aborted thanks to Jonas' intervention. Overall another quality episode. While Olivia is still a b*tch I'm glad she got to blackmail Ken back at him. F**kin' journalists always going for a story regardless of the people they hurt. Can't stand negative publicity. That's all the media has got going for them. But that's another story.
Can't wait to see Kim come back. Yeah people thought she was annoying sure but I really hope she and Jack make some peace in the end. How about the closing episodes focus more on Jack and have the Starkwood threat end a couple episodes early for a change.
IanTheCool
04-07-2009, 05:18 PM
Yeah, they're definitely bringing Kim back into it now.
slinger
04-07-2009, 10:27 PM
Yeah, they're definitely bringing Kim back into it now.
The one 24 character no one wants to see again.
IanTheCool
04-07-2009, 11:02 PM
I'm kind of excited to see her again....
Yeah me too. :D
I wouldn't mind seeing Karen making an appearance to mourn the loss of Bill. I really miss the guy compared to others who have fallen in the past namely Curtis for example. And not forgetting David Palmer too. :(
Jack has seen so much death for those close to him. It's so damn tragic. The only person I'm glad they killed off was Sherry Palmer the conniving b*tch. As for Nina well that's debatable. I thought she was really hot when she was evil. :D
ViRUs
04-08-2009, 11:26 AM
I'm only really glad they killed off Nina just so she couldnt come back again. It was kind of stupid how and why they did it, but I was glad they wouldnt try to bring her back next season.
slinger
04-08-2009, 04:49 PM
I think it would've been much better if they didn't use her at all for season three. Bringing her back for season two was great and fit the story but using her again just felt forced, like bringing Sherry back for season two and three. Thankfully the writers killed both off to help reinvent the show for season 4.
ViRUs
04-08-2009, 04:55 PM
lol, yeah three was definitely forced for Nina. I definitely think Sherry never should have came back. I forget why she came back for season two, was that the Allen Millicant thing?
slinger
04-08-2009, 06:20 PM
lol, yeah three was definitely forced for Nina. I definitely think Sherry never should have came back. I forget why she came back for season two, was that the Allen Millicant thing?
No that was season three.
Sherry was actually back twice in season two. :rolleyes: Her second appearance was great for shock value/cliffhanger but in retrospect just lame and lazy writing.
Mandy is still out there and the writers could bring her back for season eight, which would've been great for the Nina character to have her alive and out there.
Imagine if Nina was working for Emerson and Tony and Jack show up. Or that she worked with Chris Henderson's group trying to get Tony out of CTU. Or just doing a TV movie or theatrical movie where Jack goes after Nina for revenge.
ViRUs
04-08-2009, 07:10 PM
thats right, she had more of a "reason" to come back for the second season than the third.
I think it would've been much better if they didn't use her at all for season three. Bringing her back for season two was great and fit the story but using her again just felt forced, like bringing Sherry back for season two and three. Thankfully the writers killed both off to help reinvent the show for season 4.
Ah yes Season 4. Never liked the woman who headed CTU what was her name again. And then we never hear from her again when she had that breakdown over her daughter. And that other chick Sarah was it who got fired after Michelle got reinstated. She was hot. Never saw her again either. The same can be said for Adam (Sylar) after his sister was killed from that outbreak. Never saw him again either. Season 6 Milo comes back and dies. That chick he had the hots for what ever happened to her anyway? Ah well CTU is dead and buried so there's no point in seeing them all again is there.
And how about Kate Warner. Still want to know what ever happened to her sister when she turned evil. Ah the memories. ;)
Daniel
04-13-2009, 11:47 PM
Yay for Kim' return.
Um ... WTF. Tony kills Agent Moss and is still a baddie. I definitely did NOT see that one coming. Absolutely crazy. When Jack finds out he is going to get the cure and hunt Tony down. Can't wait.
Chessh2936
04-14-2009, 02:46 AM
did anyone else think it would Charles Logan running everything? After all we never found out what happened to him AND Martha Logan was brought up for like a second, the Presidents daughter said " its horrible what happened to her " and then he said " I dont want to talk about it "
I WANT TO KNOW !
Yeah I was wondering what was going on with that black guy who'd disappeared for a moment. I was freaking out thinking he might catch Tony in the act. And so he reappears later taking out two agents. Seeing the camera on Tony a couple times in the helicopter and then hiding behind that dumpster I was just thinking to myself oh no don't tell me Tony is up to something. And then he put Larry out of his misery. Bugger I was starting to like the guy too. Renee will definitely end up with Jack now. :D
And I was happy to see Kim back. Couldn't hold back the tears during their scene yeah I know. :cool:
Now what happens? Starkwood acting as another pawn in something bigger... and no doubt Tony is part of that grand design. Oh my word bring on next week already!!!
One more thing. Where the hell is Chloe!!! :D
ViRUs
04-14-2009, 01:53 PM
I honestly didnt really like the last twist with tony still being bad. To me, it wasnt all that surprising, I didnt really see it coming, I was just more mad that it happened. I was hoping to see Jack and Tony fight off all the bad guys and be friends again. Now this season will most likely end with Tony's death.
IanTheCool
04-14-2009, 03:03 PM
I don't like the twist either. What is Tony doing?
Dogbert0228
04-14-2009, 03:07 PM
Some have suggested that Tony is seeking vengeance against President Charles Logan, and we'll see him blackmail the President to give Logan a life sentence, or turn him over to Tony so Tony can take his personal revenge.
While he's a murderer, I'm all for seeing Tony go after Logan.
Chessh2936
04-14-2009, 03:31 PM
Some have suggested that Tony is seeking vengeance against President Charles Logan, and we'll see him blackmail the President to give Logan a life sentence, or turn him over to Tony so Tony can take his personal revenge.
While he's a murderer, I'm all for seeing Tony go after Logan.
that would be SO GREAT, Charles Logan is amazing, season 5 was SO SO good because of him.
Please Bring Him BACK
moviebuff801
04-14-2009, 03:34 PM
I personally like the twist. It'll be interesting to see Jack and Tony go head-to-head for real this time.
ViRUs
04-14-2009, 03:44 PM
Yeah it would be, I just dont want to see Tony die. I was just starting to get used to him being the same old Tony from the old days.
moviebuff801
04-14-2009, 03:46 PM
I agree, it would be so redundant for Tony to die again.
If Tony is really out for revenge against Logan then I can buy that. Other than that I really can't see any other reason why Tony would go bad anyway. Felt sorry for Moss falling victim as a result.
MasterChief117
04-14-2009, 06:18 PM
Wow, I love 24 to know end but this is getting tiresome. There is another bad guy to Hodges?WTF is this crap, does anyone even remember who the main bad guy was, and the reason the US was getting tied into this crap?It was nice having Elisha on there for 22 seconds and Jack declining her help to save him because of his pride again, WTF Is up with this. This shows writing has gone way down hill and I'm noticing it more and more. The first 8 episodes were great the last few episodes have been terrible.
IanTheCool
04-14-2009, 06:44 PM
I have to say that I completely lost respect for this president. There is no way she should have even listened to what he was saying. He was blackmailing her for a seat of power in the military, essentially a coup, and she was listening to him?? She should have had him arrested right there, missiles or no missiles.
JBond
04-16-2009, 05:30 PM
Yeah, I wasn't too happy to see what happened with Tony, give us a break.
And I seriously doubt we've seen the last of Kim, Masterchief.
Tolkien
04-16-2009, 05:50 PM
Wow, I love 24 to know end but this is getting tiresome. There is another bad guy to Hodges? WTF is this crap, does anyone even remember who the main bad guy was, and the reason the US was getting tied into this crap?
Um, yeah... Do you?
It was nice having Elisha on there for 22 seconds and Jack declining her help to save him because of his pride again, WTF Is up with this.
It's not pride. It's him knowing all of the BS and crap that he's put his daughter through, and to be fair, she was quite the ***** to him the last time they spoke. So it was only natural for him to believe that she didn't want anything to do with him.
This shows writing has gone way down hill and I'm noticing it more and more. The first 8 episodes were great the last few episodes have been terrible.
Are you kidding me? This season in general has been truly amazing. Just because it's been a little slow in the last few episodes doesn't mean anything. Yes, it's supposed to be action-packed and whatnot, but during the course of a national tragedy, there can be moments of downtime, you know. Of course the show's writing went down hill, the last season was horrible. But they've had a whole year to write something better, and I don't know if you've noticed or not but this is better... far, far better.
moviebuff801
04-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Tolkein, thank you for talking some sense with MC; this season has been consistently great.
Tolkien
04-16-2009, 10:41 PM
Oh and I agree. After last season, I feared that the show would take a Prison Break turn, but I was very, very happy when it didn't. This is a very quality season and as long as it stays that way, I will talk sense with anyone who would debate me otherwise, lol. Kidding... Sort of.
Word Smith
04-17-2009, 11:01 PM
I agree, it would be so redundant for Tony to die again.
Movie Buff:
I agree. I think Tony dying again would be repetitive.
However, on the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing Tony being ripped in half by something in comparison to Darth Maul's death sequence like in Episode 1, though.
Now that would be cool....
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Side Note:
If you get a chance, check out the vid.
:)
JBond
04-17-2009, 11:13 PM
That would have made the movie much better. Odd that they left it out.
Ewok Droppings
04-18-2009, 03:12 AM
Although Tony dieing again would be repetitive, might I remind everyone of Nina Myers?
JBond
04-18-2009, 03:00 PM
Yeah, so when's she coming back to die?
Ewok Droppings
04-19-2009, 02:02 PM
With this season, she could be back next episode.
JBond
04-19-2009, 03:22 PM
How else would we find out Kim is her daughter?
Tolkien
04-19-2009, 03:43 PM
Play now, cry later when it turns out to be true. ;)
Boiiinng
04-19-2009, 05:23 PM
Whew. Finally got caught up, thanks to Fox Online. 5 episodes in a row really can get your adrenaline going.
The only thing that bugs me right now is why Tony flipped. It seems there were easier ways of getting some poison without approaching Jack for help, considering he had an inside guy at Starkwood, unless he wanted the only canister and wanted to eliminate Starkwood. I hope they fill in the gaps, because that's a hell of a risk by Tony just to get one canister.
thebtskink
04-19-2009, 11:55 PM
I don't think Tony is really evil. His look after he killed Larry Moss was clearly one of remorse. I think he's committed to find who's behind the shadow-government regime that led to Michelle's death no matter what the colleratal cost. Either he's playing that he is in the conspiracy in order to get the top bad guy of this season, or he is getting some kind of revenge on Logan.
JBond
04-20-2009, 12:05 AM
Oh, well thank God he didn't kill an innocent man for a bad reason. ;)
Dogbert0228
04-20-2009, 12:43 AM
Oh, well thank God he didn't kill an innocent man for a bad reason. ;)
But it was okay, because he had a remorseful look once Larry was dead.
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:lol: That was brilliant. :lol:
MC I have to disagree. No way has the writing this scene gone downhill. It's a drastic improvement over the trainwreck of the previous season. And it's a no brainer that Kim will be back for more.
As for Tony killing Moss yeah there was a look of remorse. If he's still focused on finding the main target of this shadow government then I can certainly live with that.
Dogbert0228
04-20-2009, 02:18 AM
:lol: That was brilliant. :lol:
MC I have to disagree. No way has the writing this scene gone downhill. It's a drastic improvement over the trainwreck of the previous season. And it's a no brainer that Kim will be back for more.
As for Tony killing Moss yeah there was a look of remorse. If he's still focused on finding the main target of this shadow government then I can certainly live with that.
Somehow I have to think that Renee and the President will disagree with you about killing the head of the WA D.C. FBI field office.
There were many other ways of dealing with Moss. If Tony really is still "good" they're going to have a hard time justifying that murder, and all the other shady stuff he's done before joining Chloe and Bill that keeps being referenced. This is the kind of collateral damage that even Jack Bauer doesn't get away with.
Dogbert0228
04-20-2009, 03:22 PM
Best TV Guide blurb for an episode of "24" ever:
"As the nation remains vulnerable, Jack Bauer endures the worsening pathogen pain. The FBI deals with recent deadly developments while matters involving key players takes this day into a unexpected direction."
TV Guide and 24's marketing department respect the power of specifics in a show like "24" and those of us who don't like "24" previews because they give too much away.
IanTheCool
04-21-2009, 12:50 AM
Hmm, Tony pulled a Michael.
Yeah, he's a full-out bad guy now. No question anymore.
Chessh2936
04-21-2009, 02:56 AM
Every episode I am PRAYING to see Charles Logan pop up, I think 24 Season 5 was some of the best tv ever created and I just love the character of Charles Logan.
Also the reason I think he will pop up is because when Sutherland got his Star in the sidewalk he said " the whole cast and crew from that day of shooting were there " and guess who was sitting next to Jon Voight? The actor who plays Logan.. SO I bet anything he will be behind all this
IanTheCool
04-21-2009, 11:16 AM
Perhaps the group behind it all is the terrorist group from the very first season, who Nina worked for, who also tried killing Palmer with the poison hand thingy. They never really did follow up on them.
ViRUs
04-21-2009, 11:21 AM
Thats true, they mentioned them in season two. I remember Nina said "You think I worked for the Drazens but your wrong. I was higher than that."
If she didnt say she was higher, she definitely implied it.
Bobby007
04-22-2009, 03:31 PM
Thats true, they mentioned them in season two. I remember Nina said "You think I worked for the Drazens but your wrong. I was higher than that."
If she didnt say she was higher, she definitely implied it.
She worked for SPECTRE?:rolleyes:
I don't like the all powerful evil empire type thing, I mean hell even Quantum of Solace brought it back.
slinger
04-22-2009, 10:34 PM
Perhaps the group behind it all is the terrorist group from the very first season, who Nina worked for, who also tried killing Palmer with the poison hand thingy. They never really did follow up on them.
24:The Game on PS2.
IanTheCool
04-23-2009, 12:52 AM
24:The Game on PS2.
psssh, video games don't count ;)
Tony pulled a Michael??? You mean Michael from Lost right? Mind you he didn't really turn out to be a full on bad guy in the end.
As for Tony we'll have to wait an' find out in a Master of the Obvious sorta way. ;)
http://www.geocities.com/mpetrie98/MasterOfTheObvious.jpg
Oh I remember that well when one of the past banned posters got pwned with that a couple years back. It was hilarious. :D
ViRUs
05-05-2009, 11:03 AM
I swear, if Aaron is responsible for Hodges death, this season will turn instantly bad.
IanTheCool
05-05-2009, 05:18 PM
I swear, if Aaron is responsible for Hodges death, this season will turn instantly bad.
Okay, as I started reading this I was confused as what thread I was in and thought I was in Lost thread. And I thought, Aaron is three years old! How is he responsible for a death?!
ViRUs
05-05-2009, 05:29 PM
lol, it's funny now, but you might have just gave away the ending...
JBond
05-05-2009, 05:45 PM
I STILL don't see how Aaron could have anything to do with Hodges' death. He's there because he's going to figure it out and confront the first daughter.
ViRUs
05-05-2009, 05:49 PM
yeah hopefully, it just seems like they are setting it up to make it look like he did.
Oh please I hope not. The guy's been a loyal subject since the series began. But then again look at Tony.
Steve from Indy
05-10-2009, 08:37 AM
Hmm, Tony pulled a Michael.
Yeah, he's a full-out bad guy now. No question anymore.
I think he's still a good guy. Just a hunch.
ViRUs
05-10-2009, 02:45 PM
Yeah, its possible. Especially with the way Chloe acted when Jack told her.
JBond
05-10-2009, 07:48 PM
You guys hang on to that. Tell me how it works out. ;)
Ewok Droppings
05-10-2009, 07:57 PM
How is it possible that Tony is still a good guy after blatantly murdering people to get to where he's at now? No way.
ViRUs
05-10-2009, 08:42 PM
lol, didnt mean good as in extremely good like Jack's side. I think he's working for himself more.
There was just something about that scene with Chloe that made me think there was somethin more. Who knows, maybe I watch too much Lost.
JBond
05-10-2009, 09:31 PM
You just meant TV-good. ;)
IanTheCool
05-10-2009, 11:40 PM
Does anyone know how many episodes are left?
Doomsday
05-11-2009, 12:32 AM
3 hours, 1 tomorrow and 2 next Monday.
ViRUs
05-11-2009, 03:17 PM
You just meant TV-good. ;)
lol, of course thats what I meant. The man is not a saint.
Bobby007
05-13-2009, 03:06 PM
3 hours, 1 tomorrow and 2 next Monday.
Sweet! There needs to be a .gif of Jack beating up Tony
NEo881
05-18-2009, 05:47 PM
im kinda Pissed at fox for spoiling some of the ending on 24 tonight they couldtn have waited till atleast tuesday to post there new seasons and renews :rolleyes:
Tolkien
05-18-2009, 08:09 PM
But didn't everyone know about the renewal like... last year?
NEo881
05-18-2009, 10:08 PM
i knew that there was atleast 2 more seasons but this specificly said
It was also announced that the eighth season of 24 will return to the FOX schedule with a two-night, four-hour premiere as part of a special extended primetime on Sunday, Jan. 17 (9:00-11:00 PM ET/PT), immediately following the premiere of HUMAN TARGET. The next installment of the Emmy Award-winning series starring Kiefer Sutherland will unfold in New York City, amidst the shadows of the Statue of Liberty and the United Nations.
so yeah knowing what happens to jack was a give away i mean they could do 24 with another person i think kiefer said he wanted to do more of a directors role down the line for the show
Dogbert0228
05-19-2009, 12:01 AM
- I like the fact that Tony isn't dead, and that he at least had a reasonable motivation
- I like the fact that Alan Wilson isn't dead, so along with Tony, they still have some explaining to do with the connections to Palmer's assassination, Charles Logan, and this syndicate that's been behind it all
-Kim saving Jack = no brainer (by the way, in 8-23 and 8-24 Cuthbert's acting wasn't horrible)
-Renee ready to torture was great, she's learned from the master
-Seeing the president do the right thing at the expense of her family was noble but how they hell does she expect to be allowed to stay in office when that becomes public?
-Looking forward to seeing New York next year, they did a great job making LA look like D.C. this year
NEo881
05-19-2009, 12:07 AM
yeah it was a very good finale heres how i see 24 kicking off[ next season rene finds out through intergations that wilson says they have a fallout plan if he is taken a plot is set to go out this leads to 24 and i think Jack and tony may work together on it although what tony did to jack i dont think it will happen but hey u never know with 24
Chessh2936
05-19-2009, 12:25 AM
damn it, my dad told me Charles Logan was in the finale... HE LIED lol. So the whole episode im sitting there waiting for my favorite guy of 24 to come back and it never happened :(
do you guys think there is a chance he will ever return?
I imagine he will since they are being back the conspiracy from Season 5 at the end of this one. I hope so too. Good finale, real cliffhanger.
drjones
05-19-2009, 10:26 AM
Didn't Logan die in season 5?
ViRUs
05-19-2009, 10:31 AM
I dont think so, he just got stabbed I thought.
Anyways, the season was really good, but the finale was kind of lackluster. Nothing too big happened, but I did like some of the cliffhangers left at the end as well.
Daniel
05-19-2009, 10:53 AM
I'm sorry, but I watched the finale twice and Rene trying to act like Jack at the end seemed REALLY forced and EXTREMELY cheesy.
The rest of it was awesome.
Spirited Away
05-19-2009, 11:10 AM
Leaked ages ago, but just a reminder about Season 8:
It's set 6 weeks after Season 7.
IanTheCool
05-19-2009, 11:22 AM
im kinda Pissed at fox for spoiling some of the ending on 24 tonight they couldtn have waited till atleast tuesday to post there new seasons and renews :rolleyes:
Okay, so before the show I partially read this and then turned away. But I read enough to make me think the opposite of what it meant; that it was announced that 24 was not coming back next year. So I started to think Jack was actually going to die!
Logan didn't die, from what I've read.
IanTheCool
05-19-2009, 12:18 PM
Logan didn't die, from what I've read.
He'll likely be back next season, yeah. Especially since they are dealing with a conspiracy he was the face of.
ViRUs
05-19-2009, 12:37 PM
What also felt forced was the way the President's husband reacted when he found out about his daughter killing Hodges. Seemed a little over the top
IanTheCool
05-19-2009, 01:11 PM
What also felt forced was the way the President's husband reacted when he found out about his daughter killing Hodges. Seemed a little over the top
They spent entirely too much time on that story. I understand they need subplots to fill the time, but man can they be boring.
ViRUs
05-19-2009, 02:10 PM
Yeah I agree, I think thats why it felt kind of forced. I know that he always believed that his son was murdered, and he doesnt want to see his daughter go, I get that. But what do you expect the president of the United States to do? It was completely different that his character was at the beginning of the season.
Spirited Away
05-19-2009, 02:27 PM
I think Jack finding solace in Islam will probably be followed up next season.
Doomsday
05-19-2009, 02:55 PM
I just enjoy how they left so many little storylines open ended so they could be brought into season 8. Talk about having a lot to work with.
NEo881
05-19-2009, 05:04 PM
it was a good 2 hrs to me this was just another 2hrs episode it felt like there were more questions left open than there were questions answerd it just really didnt feel like a Season finale to me im not saying it was bad though
thebtskink
05-19-2009, 06:51 PM
Kim Bauer doing her best DAMMIT impression was one of my small favorite moments in 24 history.
As well as Tony screaming to Jack about Teri while being dragged away.
Overall, I'd say this season got me back into 24 again. It was certainly better than Day 2 or Day 4.
shained
05-19-2009, 07:15 PM
Can already see Season 8 spoilers floating about (reason why I never come in this thread anymore) so i'll keep this brief.
I'm about to ****ing cry after beign left with all them cliffhangers!! :(
So many loose ends that need tieing but I have to wait another year. I don't know if I can handle that.
Have to say I think this was up their with the best, if not the best series of 24, put last season to shame. The realised they dropped the ball and upped their game big style.
Had a feeling Tony wasn't all bad and when I saw he was desperate for a meeting it all clicked. I would have done exactly what he did for revenge so he's all good in my books.
Cannot ****ing wait for s8
the elmo zombie
05-19-2009, 09:20 PM
the strike and the reactions from season six really made this season great. this season has some of the best villians in the series because they have the best motives of and villians on 24. it felt fresh also, and it was great to have another president character worth caring about. not to mention a whole load of new characters to invest in, rather than sticking with the old. i don't really know why chloe still gets screen time...she just can't act
JBond
05-19-2009, 10:09 PM
Kim Bauer doing her best DAMMIT impression was one of my small favorite moments in 24 history.
So I wan't the only one! I was laughing for a minute straight.
Good season, poor finale.
IanTheCool
05-19-2009, 11:13 PM
I think Jack finding solace in Islam will probably be followed up next season.
I didn't really like that. It felt like they are just throwing a bone to the show's critics. With that and the speech Jack gave about how upholding the law is what is right, blah blah blah.
I thought the final seconds was to be expected. We all knew Jack wasn't gonna die and Kim was obviously gonna save him. I'll be looking forward to his reaction to his daughter saving him next Season. So Day 8 takes place 6 weeks after Day 7? I like that.
Agreed on President Taylor. She did do the right thing. Olivia was a cow. Kudos to Aaron as well. :)
As for Tony and Jack working together again. It's gonna happen I know it. And I'm sure they'll make up despite Tony's actions. It was a great Season. Really made up for the mediocre Day 6.
JBond
05-20-2009, 02:56 PM
*sigh* Tony is a bad guy.
IanTheCool
05-20-2009, 06:17 PM
*sigh* Tony is a bad guy.
At least he's a bad guy for a good reason. I was worried for a while there.
JBond
05-20-2009, 10:28 PM
That wasn't a depressed realization, it was a frusterated reminder to those who are still waiting for Tony to go good again, as if he's not a murderer.
Ewok Droppings
05-21-2009, 12:59 PM
Finally got around to watching the finale. Weak is the best way to describe it. No shocking moments, nothing to make you say "Wow - that was intense". It's almost as if the writers just didn't quite grasp what made 24 so great in the first place. Overall it was an OK season - probably middle of the pack. The problem was that everything just felt way too predictable this season and that's what always made 24 great; you never knew exactly what would happen. I kept thinking a good ending would be for them to kill Kim in a dramatic way and for Renee to somehow harvest the needed blood or whatever to save Jack. Then it sets the scene for the next season of 24 having Jack with a chip on his shoulder.
I felt like they got too bogged down in this crap of "should we or shouldn't we torture for the sake of saving lives?" It's like they wanted to spread the debate rather than tell a story. Overall, I like Cherry Jones as the President - WWWAAAYYYYY better than Wayne Palmer. Hell, Paul Walker would have been a better choice for President than Wayne Palmer.
Where do they go from here now? They need to do better to keep the seasons interesting I think. While this was a step in the right direction after the crappy 6th season, I think they need to push harder than this to get this show back to where it once was. Or maybe that's just impossible. :(
ViRUs
05-21-2009, 01:54 PM
Yeah it might be, I agree with a lot of that. I think season 7 will lead into season 8 though, so a lot of this will be picked up again. I think I will like season 7 more if season 8 connects with it.
Well, from what Sutherland has said, Season 7 directly affects what happens in Season 8, so it'll be like a double long season or something like that lol. I liked this season quite a bit and hope Season 8 ties everything off.
Tolkien
05-21-2009, 05:22 PM
I finally made time to see the finale and... Eh. I must say, I was fairly disappoint in it. I mean, we have what appears to be an amazing season play out in front of our eyes only to have it all end with a very slow, boring ending. And it didn't even feel like and ENDING!!! I keep checking fox.com for info on another possible episode. There were too much left undone here. The main villain isn't wasn't even officially arrested, he was just taken into custody, Jack wasn't cured or healed, we were just left hanging, the President's side story wasn't even completed... It was all just, eh.
Unless, they plan to pick up the next season only a few days after this one?
It's 6 weeks after, apparently. But they say the questions will be answered
Ewok Droppings
05-21-2009, 06:07 PM
I think the questions were answered for the most part, but I don't want to believe all of them. I want to believe that 24 had a better ending than that, but it's not the truth. Basically we got spoon fed a cliched load of normalized television for what should have been an exciting season finale. Jack doesn't die of course, the President's daughter is detained and Renee gives in to the "Jack" side. Boring.
Spirited Away
05-21-2009, 06:26 PM
Just in-case some of you missed this when it was leaked a few weeks ago:
During the six off-screen weeks in-between seasons 7 and 8, CTU New York is re-opened, and led by new character Brian Hastings and Chloe. Presumably Renee was successful in getting info out of Wilson, as she now works for CTU, who are hunting down the remaining conspirators.
The series also involves the UN, and an attack made on new character Ambassador Hasheme and his family. How Jack gets involved in unclear, maybe he's Mosque buddies with Hasheme? Kim is around too.
Season 8 starts shooting next Wednesday in LA, and the week after in NYC.
Ewok Droppings
05-21-2009, 07:00 PM
I don't really care how much they tie it in - I mean that's great and all, but it's still no excuse for a lackluster season finale.
IanTheCool
05-21-2009, 07:34 PM
I think the questions were answered for the most part, but I don't want to believe all of them. I want to believe that 24 had a better ending than that, but it's not the truth. Basically we got spoon fed a cliched load of normalized television for what should have been an exciting season finale. Jack doesn't die of course, the President's daughter is detained and Renee gives in to the "Jack" side. Boring.
I was so bored with the president's daughter, it wasn't even funny. Maybe that's worth dealing with at some point in the year to fill up an episode, but not the season finale. No one cares about her, we care about Jack and Tony.
Tolkien
05-21-2009, 09:34 PM
I don't really care how much they tie it in - I mean that's great and all, but it's still no excuse for a lackluster season finale.
Pretty much what I thought, although, I DO care that it's tied into the next season. I'm glad that they're finally carrying the storyline over for a change. I've always found it insane that Jack Bauer has always managed to defeat the villains and save the day everytime in exactly 24 hours. It's total BS. I'm glad that they're continuing on for a change this time around.
Daniel
05-22-2009, 02:59 AM
calling it - Olivia is a baddie next season.
At least I hope she is, I want to see her get her face smacked.
Spirited Away
05-22-2009, 03:09 AM
I can't remember for the life of me where I read this, but:
they continue Sean Hillinger's (the FBI mole) storyline too in Season 8.
MasterChief117
05-25-2009, 07:54 PM
The first 8 episodes of this season showed much promiss over the suck that was Season 6, and then it started falling slowly apart, mainly around when Bill died. Then it became ridiculosis, Tony was like a 16-agent, like what the hell. It came predictable and unenjoyable at times. Then Keifer, who is an amazing actor most of the time really slacked in the later episodes. I really wasn't digging his over done manner at all, sometimes it betrayed the scenes he was in.
Probably the best scenes of the season was when Tony confronted Wilson and when the Muslim Priest talked to Jack.
Other wise it was incredibly mediocre...
Season 6 - 6/10
Season 7 - 7/10
JBond
05-25-2009, 08:09 PM
I've never watched this show for Kiefer's acting, that's for sure.
MasterChief117
05-25-2009, 08:13 PM
That's true, it did use to be good but now its become predicatable and over done.
I was most offended with the Spinal Tap thing, that was just overdone. I had 6 spinal taps last year, I did even come close to screaming(well after a few hours it hurts like hell) but he had a sedative and he still screamed...I was like what the hell...
Me and my dad tried a drinking game on it but it became too easy, lol.
Tolkien
05-25-2009, 08:44 PM
You and your dad in a drinking game? I hope it was soda or water, lol.
moviebuff801
05-25-2009, 08:46 PM
I'll admit that this season's finale wasn't quite what I was expecting, but I still enjoyed it because of all the character drama that was in it. The scene between Tony and Alan Wilson was great and I was happy with the resolution to Olivia's storyline; if Taylor had chosen her responsibilities as a mom over her responsibilities as the President, I would've felt it to be cliche. But the disappointing season finale wasn't enough to detract from an overall spectacular season.
I think I would rank the seasons so far like this:
1. Season 7
2. Season 5
3. Season 1
4. Season 2
5. Season 3
6. Season 4
7. Season 6
the elmo zombie
05-25-2009, 09:02 PM
Here's how i'd rank them
1. Season 3
2. Season 5
3. Season 7
4. Season 1
5. Season 2
6. Season 4
7. Season 6
Ewok Droppings
05-25-2009, 09:16 PM
i've never watched this show for kiefer's acting, that's for sure.
damnit!
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