Smallville

[Tornado]

The only "Smallville" I've seen in the past three weeks has been the past three episodes. These weak episodes tend to kill some of my interest in the show. When it starts to get good again I'll probably go and re-visit Season 1 or 2.

[RingWraith2k4]

So when does Smallville officially comeback with new episodes?

[Tornado]

The next new episode airs on March 5th.

[FVD]

Well though this may be it for Lana at least we won't be seeing her again. Kryptonite infection hmm. Still Requiem was indeed an improvement over last weeks mess. Somehow I felt sorry for Lana but that's the way it's got to be. Yay Lois will be back soon. :D

Just hope PS3 will get the Season back on track.

A redeeming factor in this episode however was seeing Toyman for the first time. PS3 introduce John Corben next will you?

[Tolkien]

Season 1: Man I love Lana, she's hot and her character is awesome!

Season 2: That Lana just keeps getting better and better!

Season 3: I really enjoy Lana's character, although not as much as before.

Season 4: Lana is slowly becoming a less than average character.

Season 5: Wow, I didn't think I would say this but, Lana is quite annoying.

Season 6: My god, when will this girl go away already? WHEN?!?!?

Season 7: I... Hate... Lana! She's just everywhere now... oh, she's gone!

Season 8: No, NO, NO! Why is she back? Why'd they bring her back?!?!



And that's my take on Lana Lang over the past eight years.




This episode was horrible, just, horrible. Clark Kent doesn't think with his upstairs brain whenever that... that, woman is around him. I hate her, I hate her, I hate her. And What's with the lameass attempt at Oliver taking over LuthorCorp? That was stupid. Sounds like they just wanted a reason to get him in the same room with the rest of the board members. And Lex? Really? That was a horrible move on their (the writers') parts. And Chloe, sweetheart. Your man is laying in a hospital bed in Star City. Your cousin Lois has a job too, you know. And I'm pretty sure that her job doesn't include taking care of your man. Take a hike for a little while and let Lois come back home, okay? She needs to give Clark some of her balls, because it seems as though Clark doesn't have any of his own.

Oh, and then Lex goes boom. Yeah, how original. It's not like they used that little gimmick a dozen times on Smallvile already. But seriously, after 8 seasons, what much is there left to do other than give the wonder boy a suit and push that f**ker out of the nest already. Clark Kent, you need to get your affairs in order and stop being such a loser. You make Dick Grayson look like a ladies man for crying out loud!

[Alien]

It's always bad to read bad reviews, why would I wanna watch the episode now :(

I'm sure I'll get to it.

[Tornado]

The season finale will air on May 14th.

[Markus Corvinus]

Thanks for the info.

They really gave Lana the proper sendoff, I enjoyed "Requiem". 8/10

[Tornado]

The proper sendoff? With superpowers and emotionally dragging Clark with her?

Gotta disagree with you on that one.

[Alien]

So she's not dead then :(

[Tornado]

Nope.

[unity768]

Gotta agree w. Tornado here, the sendoff was awful and not a proper one given the amount of time she had on the show. I can't believe the complete 180 this show has taken these past three episodes. Legion was masterful, everything after that just tanked. For a minute season eight was the best season since season five but it's probably going to be placed in inconsistency along with season's four, six, and seven.

[Tolkien]

A proper sendoff would have been when Lionel saw her get into the vehicle that exploded.

That would have been a proper sendoff. lol.

[Tornado]

Ha.

I would have been fine with her going back to Paris at the end of the 6th season or something. I actually enjoyed Lex and Lana's relationship for the most part, because it managed to show an even uglier side to Lex, and all in all probably contributed quite a bit to completing his eventual downfall. So if Season 6 had ended with them getting a divorce and Lana leaving for good, I would have been fine with that.

Clark should have been going out with Chloe during Season 7; that's a relationship that was never really given the chance to blossom, despite there clearly being an interest on both sides. I didn't mind the Chloe/Jimmy romance in Season 8 though. So maybe Clark and Chloe could have broken up and just remained friends midway through Season 7, giving Chloe and Jimmy the chance to get back together at that point and leave the first half of Season 8 as is.

[JheyDC]

Did not get to watch the episode last night..wow it sucked that bad?

[Tornado]

Power was much worse, but Requiem was the second worst episode of the season IMO.

[Tolkien]

...poor Chloe. I agree with the Clark/Chloe bit. She's been in love with him since forevers. They should have at the least, given her a chance to get her rocks off with the guy once or twice before ending it. lol. But unfortunately, she'll never get hers.

[JheyDC]

True that...Chloe has been there through thick and thin, might as well be married.. LOL..j/k

But yeah, hope they pick up with better episode soon or else :angry:

[FVD]

It was clearly obvious the writers had run out of ideas for Lana. She was easily bringing the show down because of this. With her gone and Lois coming back I have faith the show will gain some tread in the weeks ahead.

[JheyDC]

I hope so...

[Neverending]

I don't even know what to say anymore. What the hell happened to this season? :( And now we're left with this bad taste in our mouth till March 5.

[Tornado]

Well... ****. PS3 is no more. Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer have jumped ship to run the new "Melrose Place" remake.

The same article went on to say that a Season 9 is very likely with Brian Peterson and Kelly Souders at the helm. I guess I'm OK with this; I would have been disappointed had Season 8 stayed consistent from the premiere to Requiem, but as we all know it hasn't. I prefer the Peterson/Souders team anyway as they gave us a bunch of great episodes: Hidden, Reckoning, Arrow, Crimson (a great sign for the Clois fans out there, myself included), Siren, and the recent Prey.

[Markus Corvinus]

PS3 is no more? Man, that sucks, hopefully Peterson/Souders can keep up the great momentum the PS3 built.

[RingWraith2k4]

You know, looking back at these "Lana episodes", it made me realize how lame, weak, and how it is sooo unrealistic for Lois "NOT" to be around in Smallville and back at the Planet, once Chloe was fine after Legion episode.
I mean, Chloe was ready to leave to see Jimmy, and "stay with him"; and technically Lois should've come back. It makes no sense for Chloe to still be around and not Lois!

What I'm trying to say is if the writers really wanted Lois "out of the way", so they could give Lana the screentime she craves, you'd think the writers could've thought of a better reason why Lois would "not be around" during the last couple of episodes. Lois not around makes NO SENSE whatsoever!

Sigh! Things were going sooo well until Lana showed up.

[Danny Rand]

the problem is the writers lost their passion for the characters a fair while ago and thus have turned out a lot o fcrap with a few strong episodes here and there. Now with most of the team jumping to soap opera dramas hopefully they can get back to writing and caring about Smallville

I liked how they pulled off Toyman but that was the only good part of the episode

[WuTical]

They need to bring Doomsday back and also continue with Tess' story with her group of meteor infected people.

[EnderDeschain]

The coolest thing about Toyman being there was Ollie making fun of him. Other than that he's just kinda cheesy.

This episode actually pulled off the impossible feat of screwing up more than "Power" did. Don't get me wrong, "Power" was a worse episode in general, but despite how thoroughly it ruined the momentum the season had going and derailed what had been working so well, it had one thing going for it: it didn't **** up Lex. This one did. In the span of two episodes they ruined the Clark / Lois thing, screwed up the character development they'd been working through with Clark, and now they've hosed up the best thing about the show. They shoulda just left Lex out of this horrible storyline all-together, and come up with some other way to send Lana off. I suppose they wanted to establish that Lex was the one to hurt Clark so deeply or bleh bleh, but this particular ripping out of Clark's heart, as Ollie put it, does not hit home with fans or seem like a bad thing. They could have used a storyline involving the Prankster to get rid of Lana and no one would have minded. God, I hope things get better from here.

[Neverending]

You know, looking back at these "Lana episodes", it made me realize how lame, weak, and how it is sooo unrealistic for Lois "NOT" to be around in Smallville and back at the Planet, once Chloe was fine after Legion episode.
I mean, Chloe was ready to leave to see Jimmy, and "stay with him"; and technically Lois should've come back. It makes no sense for Chloe to still be around and not Lois!

What I'm trying to say is if the writers really wanted Lois "out of the way", so they could give Lana the screentime she craves, you'd think the writers could've thought of a better reason why Lois would "not be around" during the last couple of episodes. Lois not around makes NO SENSE whatsoever!

Sigh! Things were going sooo well until Lana showed up.

Funny. I was actually having that conversation with someone recently. Why is Chloe still around? Shouldn't she be with her husband instead of her cousin doing it for her?

[Darth Maul]

Funny. I was actually having that conversation with someone recently. Why is Chloe still around? Shouldn't she be with her husband instead of her cousin doing it for her?

shes lazy

[Markus Corvinus]

Probably because she's been trying to help Clark...y'know...since he has this whole "save the world" type of duty.

[RingWraith2k4]

You know what the writers should do: make the last couple of the "Lana Episodes" be ONLY A BAD DREAM for Clark. Oh and Lois was always there! :D

[Tornado]

Fan-made DVD art (from Clana Kent at K-Site):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8dvdcloisvk2.jpg

If that is similar to what we end up getting, I'll be a happy man. :)

[JheyDC]

That really looks awesome!

[Spirited Away]

The Region 2 cover-art of Season 8 will be officially revealed soon. (R1 uses the same cover as R2.)

[Tornado]

How soon is "soon"? ;)

I know a cover for Season 4 of Supernatural popped up a week or so ago. I don't know if it was confirmed to be real or not, but if it is I would assume Smallville probably isn't too far behind.

[Markus Corvinus]

I hope Doomsday is included on the boxart.

[Alien]

Wonder what colour the new DVD box will be. They've kinda used most and are using different shades now.

[Dan's_Gurl]

How soon is "soon"? ;)

I know a cover for Season 4 of Supernatural popped up a week or so ago. I don't know if it was confirmed to be real or not, but if it is I would assume Smallville probably isn't too far behind.
yeah, it's real. i'd assume that SV's should be coming out pretty soon.

[sshuttari]

wow what a waste of a great start for the season.

I guess it was asking to much to keep that momentum going. Those episodes left me with no desire to keep watching the show with the same enthusiasm that I had with Bride.

sigh...

[Tornado]

Episode 15, Infamous, has now been pushed back a week to March 12th. :(

[JheyDC]

I guess they read all of our comments here and decided they need to make changes quick ;)

[Tornado]

Episode 20 has a title - BEAST. I like it. :D

[Spirited Away]

I guess they read all of our comments here and decided they need to make changes quick ;)
No jokes, that may be genuinely why they have the delay, to shoot an extra Lois and Clark scene.

[Tornado]

I hope that's the case. I need something to wash the bad taste of Power and Requiem out of my mouth.

[Alien]

Episode 20 has a title - BEAST. I like it. :D
Beast Boy would be funny. Like another Flash.

[Tornado]

Aww, they've won me over again. The next episode, Infamous, looks amazing. :csgrin:

VERY SPOILERISH PREVIEW:

FLuHVf58VoM

It's better to click on it and then watch it in High Quality.

[Alien]

Aww, they've won me over again. The next episode, Infamous, looks amazing. :csgrin:

VERY SPOILERISH PREVIEW:

FLuHVf58VoM

It's better to click on it and then watch it in High Quality.
Did I hear a Spider-Man quote in there?

[unity768]

I have tons of problems with what they seem to be doing for the next episode..but it does look awesome nonetheless.

I guess he wont have a double identity?

[JheyDC]

Looks awesome! Hope it doesn't get over hyped.

[Alien]

I have tons of problems with what they seem to be doing for the next episode..but it does look awesome nonetheless.

I guess he wont have a double identity?

My guess is... I'll put it in spoilers incase. I guess it's all in Clark's head, or maybe Chloe's. The at the end of the episode they will wake up and he'll be against telling people about himself more than even and maybe even see the start of the double identity idea.

[JheyDC]

That just might work Alien!

[Tolkien]

So... why were there no new episodes of Smallville and Supernatural? More and more breaks.

EDIT: I just saw the preview. From that preview, clearly things are NOT as they seem to be.

[Tornado]

Just speculation on the preview, no further spoilers:

There are a lot of different ways they could handle the episode. My guess is that there will be a mass mind-wipe, and the whole episode will have served to point out just how badly Clark needs an alter-ego. Identity did that too, but I think in the long run I'll be looking at that episode as more of a, "I need to protect my friends by using an alter-ego," whereas Infamous looks more like a, "I need to protect myself by using an alter-ego."

Whatever they end up doing, I'm really excited for it!

[Tornado]

So... why were there no new episodes of Smallville and Supernatural? More and more breaks.

EDIT: I just saw the preview. From that preview, clearly things are NOT as they seem to be.

Here is the schedule:

2/19 repeat
2/26 repeat
3/5 repeat
3/12 815 INFAMOUS NEW!
3/19 816 TURBULENCE NEW!
3/26 817 HEX NEW!
4/2 818 ETERNAL NEW!
4/9 repeat
4/16 repeat
4/23 819 STILETTO NEW!
4/30 820 BEAST NEW!
5/7 821 Title Unknown NEW!
5/14 822 Season 8 Finale - Title Unknown NEW!

[Alien]

Just speculation on the preview, no further spoilers:

There are a lot of different ways they could handle the episode. My guess is that there will be a mass mind-wipe, and the whole episode will have served to point out just how badly Clark needs an alter-ego. Identity did that too, but I think in the long run I'll be looking at that episode as more of a, "I need to protect my friends by using an alter-ego," whereas Infamous looks more like a, "I need to protect myself by using an alter-ego."

Whatever they end up doing, I'm really excited for it!
I'm just finding it hard to understand how they'll do a mass mind-wipe without doing something crap like Jor-El time travel. And since Jor-El might be dead that doesn't even work. (I say might since his AI is only a program and could be backed up somewhere)

[Alien]

3/19 816 TURBULENCE NEW!
I'm sure if I went looking I could find out what this episode is about but with a name like that my mind can come up with some good ideas of it's own.

[Tolkien]

After watching the last two episodes, you find that hard to fathom? lol.

[Tornado]

My only other thought was:

If Clark could somehow enlist someone else to do something miraculous while Clark is standing in front of a group of people. But the only person currently on the show with powers similar to Clark is currently powerless - John Jones.

I don't know, but I'm getting really damn interested again. The return of Lois, Clark intentionally outing himself... to LOIS!, no more Lana EVER!, etc. :D

[Tornado]

I'm sure if I went looking I could find out what this episode is about but with a name like that my mind can come up with some good ideas of it's own.

It's not what you're thinking. :(

But it still sounds good.

[Spirited Away]

Throwing this out there: would any of you watch a Smallville spin-off starring a red-headed lesbian protagonist?

[Spirited Away]

I'd also like to say, this thread should be preserved for all eternity. Re-reading some of the older posts, I forget how horrifically "56k" life was back in 2001/2002.

[Tornado]

Throwing this out there: would any of you watch a Smallville spin-off starring a red-headed lesbian protagonist?

Without Clark I'm not really interested.

[unity768]

They could make another show similar to Smallville. DC is a huge universe, there are so many super heroes they could adapt to the small screen in a Smallville-esque format. I wouldn't mind it, since Smallville is on its way out.

[Spirited Away]

Considering Batwoman is now the face of DC (well, Detective Comics...), why not just aim high with her. But then again, maybe Nolan will have another hissy fit.

The CW could have a huge hit on their hands though. I'm sure the controversy Batwoman would bring would draw huge ratings. And as Miley Cyrus would say, it's "the best of both worlds" - a series all about women, fashion, justice and crime-fighting.

Gotta hand it to DC though, they've got guts and balls.

[Tornado]

I'll second that - DC definitely has guts. Killing off their arguably most popular character (Batman) was a big risk. I don't really follow comics anymore so I don't know if he's going to be coming back (or if he's already back), but it was still a pretty gutsy move.

[WuTical]

I just watched the preview for the March 12th episode and holy crap.

[unity768]

yeah it looks really good- but the show will forever be tainted for how they handled the lana lang character

[Spirited Away]

I secretly hope that whatever reset button they use next month erases the last two episodes forever.

Of course, whatever reset button they end up using will be selective, and only reverse the Clark part, as Doomsday's storyline continues up until (at least) Episode 20.

[Tornado]

It's official, there WILL be a Season 9 (from K-Site):

Very Good News: It Looks Like Season 9 Is Happening!

TV Week's Josef Adalian has today posted a column announcing that the CW has picked up six of its successful series for another year, and yes, Smallville is on that list. An official announcement is said to be forthcoming.

Smallville joins Gossip Girl, 90210, America's Next Top Model, One Tree Hill, and Supernatural. Regarding Smallville specifically, Adalian said this:

"In the case of “Smallville,” producer Warner Bros. Television had been negotiating with series star Tom Welling to return. The CW’s renewal indicates the studio was successful in those conversations."

Update: The Hollywood Reporter is also now reporting this news, complete with a quote from Dawn Ostroff. “As we continue to build The CW Network as a destination for young women, these six shows have clearly contributed to strengthening our schedule and our brand identity,” she has said.

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If we don't get Clark in the tights in the Season 9 finale, I will be very surprised.

[JheyDC]

Or Michael Rossenbaum returning...or some other Lex Luthor person..That is awesome news.

[Tornado]

The formal announcement:

THE CW ANNOUNCES EARLY PICKUPS OF SERIES

“Gossip Girl,” “One Tree Hill,” “90210,” “America’s Next Top Model,” “Smallville” and “Supernatural” To Return Next Season

February 24, 2009 (Burbank, California) ─ The CW announced today the early pickups of six series, including five of the network’s signature dramas and the reality hit AMERICA’S NEXT TOP MODEL, which will all return in Fall 2009.

“As we continue to build The CW Network as a destination for young women, these six shows have clearly contributed to strengthening our schedule and our brand identity,” said Dawn Ostroff, President, Entertainment, The CW. “By securing these signature hits for next season, we’re furthering our commitment to deliver high-quality, original programming to our viewers, advertisers and affiliates.”

Among the series receiving early pickups for next season are The CW’s Monday tandem of sophomore sensation GOSSIP GIRL and ONE TREE HILL, which combined to lift The CW to become the fall’s #1 network on Monday with women 18-34. Both GOSSIP GIRL and ONE TREE HILL have scored double-digit gains compared to their previous seasons. Freshman hit 90210 has improved the network’s Tuesday night by double-digit increases in key demos. Wednesday anchor AMERICA’S NEXT TOP MODEL, which consistently wins its time period with young women, will also be back with superstar Tyra Banks and new groups of aspiring models for cycles 13 and 14.

Also renewed were the network’s established Thursday team of SMALLVILLE, in its ninth season, and SUPERNATURAL, which after posting ratings growth this season, will enter its fifth season next year.

[unity768]

pleased with the pick up- but what more can they do with Smallville without it becoming a Lois and Clark thing? Clark is what, 23 now? 22? time to become the man.

[unity768]

is Mack signed for season 9?

[JheyDC]

I hope she is...I can't imagine the show without her..she's been on for the whole 8 seasons...can't imagine her not being in the last one...

[Tornado]

pleased with the pick up- but what more can they do with Smallville without it becoming a Lois and Clark thing? Clark is what, 23 now? 22? time to become the man.

Clark is 21 at the moment. His birthday is in May.

[RingWraith2k4]

Clark is 21 at the moment. His birthday is in May.

:lol:

That means Clark was the "Oldest" looking Freshman in season 1.

[sshuttari]

“As we continue to build The CW Network as a destination for young women"

Smallville for women??? God I hope they don't make it more like gossip girl or something.

[Cain Marko]

I'm just finding it hard to understand how they'll do a mass mind-wipe without doing something crap like Jor-El time travel. And since Jor-El might be dead that doesn't even work. (I say might since his AI is only a program and could be backed up somewhere)


Just a thought, but Either Clark could contact Saturn girl to do a mind wipe or,... considering the number of people who are aware of his abilities that MIGHT conceivably threaten the timeline ,the Legion could decide to wipe everyone, Clark included.

[Alien]

pleased with the pick up- but what more can they do with Smallville without it becoming a Lois and Clark thing? Clark is what, 23 now? 22? time to become the man.
As someone who is 22, 23 on March 31st, I really don't think he'd be Superman if he started now.


Clark is 21 at the moment. His birthday is in May.How do you know when his birthday is?!

[Tornado]

Just a thought, but Either Clark could contact Saturn girl to do a mind wipe or,... considering the number of people who are aware of his abilities that MIGHT conceivably threaten the timeline ,the Legion could decide to wipe everyone, Clark included.

I hope not. This episode looks like the final nail in the proverbial coffin of, "Why I Should Adopt a Disguise."

How do you know when his birthday is?!

They've either celebrated or mentioned his birthday several times. He celebrated it with Lana in Season 2 in one of the last episodes of the season (Calling, if I'm not mistaken), then again in Season 5's Oracle (again, the second to last episode). It was also mentioned by Lois in Season 7's Apocalypse; she said something like, "I'll buy you a brew. Check your ID, we're not underage anymore."

The answer to your question is: I know everything about Smallville. You should know that by now. ;)

[Alien]

They've either celebrated or mentioned his birthday several times. He celebrated it with Lana in Season 2 in one of the last episodes of the season (Calling, if I'm not mistaken), then again in Season 5's Oracle (again, the second to last episode). It was also mentioned by Lois in Season 7's Apocalypse; she said something like, "I'll buy you a brew. Check your ID, we're not underage anymore."

The answer to your question is: I know everything about Smallville. You should know that by now. ;)
I wish I could know that much about anything. You are a freak when it comes to your super power of Smallville knowledge!

[JheyDC]

Tornado is a hard core fan of Smallville, no doubt about it.

[sshuttari]

I thought this was an interesting article and I figured a lot of you would enjoy reading it as well and have your own opinions on the suggestions.

Enjoy.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/02/25/five-suggestions-for-improving-smallville/


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Five suggestions for improving Smallville

I review Smallville weekly for TV Squad, but as someone pointed out I am among the biggest detractors of the show. Having been a Superman fan since childhood (I even survived the fourth season of Lois and Clark), it disheartens me every time I watch the series and it doesn't seem to live up to its potential. Since it has been renewed for a ninth season, it seems fair to at least list a few ways of improving the series. Perhaps the creators can cherry-pick the suggestions and make the ninth season one of the most memorable in television history. Perhaps.

1. Make the characters less like 90210-style cutouts and more like real people.

Smallville started as a variation of Buffy the Vampire Slayer where the meteor shower doubled as the Hellmouth and the main character was male rather than female. Over time, the Buffy characters became layered and complex and that is something sadly lacking in this show. Even worse, whenever it seems they're going in that direction they return to form such as recently with Lana's return.

2. Have the characters start taking their situation less seriously.

Again going back to Buffy, it always seemed that during each story those characters were winking at the audience and saying "yeah, we know our premise is ridiculous, but just go with it". All the characters on Smallville act so overdramatically you'd think they were performing King Lear. It's just Smallville. Go with it.

3. Have episodes that focus more on the secondary characters.

Any time there is a focus on a minor character, it always becomes a situation in which they get in danger and Clark investigates, finds out what they're doing and saves them. Why not have Clark just be a minor character for an episode or two without the save? It would be nice if we learned more about the nuances of Lois, Jimmy, Chloe, etc. and Tom Welling could go to Hawaii for the weekend.

4. Vary the stories a little more.

In the beginning, the story was the meteor-freak-of-the-week while Clark is learning to use his powers. The show has become less formulaic over time but it still falls into this trap. Put Clark in different types of situations to keep things interesting. Have the character in a location that isn't Smallville or Metropolis.

5. Let the series have a goal.

One of the issues I had with The X-Files is that the creators seemed to be making up the story as they went along and it made for redundant and just plain bad storytelling over time. The only satisfying end to this series would be to have Clark don the tights, cape and name. Unless, of course, the true ending is to kill Clark off and have Lana become Superman. In which case, don't bother having a goal because your goal sucks.

I recognize that my preferences are not necessarily the preferences of the majority. When it comes to good character dramas, I prefer Buffy or Freaks and Geeks to Melrose Place. What do you think the creators could do to improve Smallville?

[JheyDC]

A few interesting input we have discussed in the past here. Thanks for sharing that Shutarri.

[Art_of_crime]

they need to do something with this show, or they risk having it canceled before we see any resolution.
I'm so sick of the show avoiding the costume, that at this point I just want to see him pony up and wear the damn suit.

[JheyDC]

He probably will..

[R-Type]

i read the lead actor signed for both season 9 & season 10!

[Tornado]

^ That's just a rumor at this point. The only reason people think that right now is because Smallville has typically re-signed actors for a minimum of two years (hence why Allison is automatically signed through Season 9 because she renegotiated her contract before the current season). They wanted Welling bad enough that if he had only wanted a one year contract, they would have happily obliged.

[sshuttari]

So I hear that CW is getting rid of the writer's they hired this season and getting new ones next season?

[EnderDeschain]

2. Have the characters start taking their situation less seriously.

That's a damn good point. While I wouldn't say that it should adopt the same almost hammy attitude that Buffy had sometimes, they really do need to lighten up on occasion. It seems like writers tend to forget that a less-than-somber tone doesn't necessarily detract from the dramatic elements, and throwing in a character like Xander from Buffy or hell, even Kutner from House, really helps things out. They need that character on this show, the one that lends itself to the audience perspective and is likely to crack a joke or two when things get Earth-in-peril. Just one character like that can make all the difference in the world. Also some better friggin humor from the writers. For the most part Smallville sucks in that regard, the only things I remember really chuckling at recently were Clark's comments about wearing a costume ("not in this lifetime" or something like that) and Ollie making fun of the Toyman.

I dig you guys putting everything in blackouts. It allows me to go wild with my expectations when I see stuff like "Oh my god you mean Ruffles have ridges?! Awesome!" It's really cool. From the "holy crap"s and such I know something big's gonna happen soon but don't know what, which is just exactly how I like it.

[Tornado]

2. Have the characters start taking their situation less seriously.

See, I really disagree with that one. The guy who wrote the column obviously isn't as big a fan of Superman as he claims. Clark/Superman is almost always serious, and that shows through pretty well in the show. He does joke around occasionally in the comics, and the same applies to the show. Lois often mocks the situations she falls into, and Chloe used to deliver a lot of one-liners when things got too serious (not so much this season, she's really changed as a character between her run-ins with Brainiac and Doomsday).

The problem is that you've got a character like Jimmy, who really should be there for some comedic relief, who isn't funny at all. I like the character, but he's really not much like the Jimmy I know from the comics and movies. And Oliver is even more serious than Clark, and Tess... well... I can't remember her even smiling this season, much less being that likable.

I can see where the writer of the article is coming from to a certain extent, but I think a lot of his problem with the show is just in his head. Also, his #5 complaint is a joke.

[JheyDC]

Maybe the guy that wrote that article should come on here....

[Danny Rand]

what they need to do is kill the teen angst drama and have the drama grow as the characters should be growing. Then we need a legit bad ass villain other than Lex. Lex will be back but we need a second tier villain who is awesome like Braniac was or even like Zod was.

[JheyDC]

I have a feeling they've come up with one..Lex plus another..

[Art_of_crime]

I have a feeling they've come up with one..Lex plus another..

Team Rocket?

[Danny Rand]

I'd like to see someone like Slade get introduced as a hitman signed to take out Lois which woul dlead to Clark getting help from one Batman towards the end of the season

[JheyDC]

Nice, but I don't think CW will get Batman..

[Danny Rand]

I don't either but it will be the best way to payoff the fans who stuck with the show all the way. Also most of the villains left are better suited for film than tv. Darkseid, Superboy Prims, Metallo, Cyborg Supes etc

[Tornado]

Batman, as awesome as that would be, doesn't technically exist yet. He's still just Bruce Wayne, traveling around the world.

But the best payoff for the fans would be seeing Clark in the tights, flying, and us hearing the word "Superman." That'd be the best payoff, hands down.

[JheyDC]

Here's for Tom Welling in the tights for Season 9!

[Tornado]

Official Description for 815, INFAMOUS:

TORI SPELLING RETURNS AS LINDA LAKE — Linda Lake (guest star Spelling) returns to Metropolis and threatens to expose Clark's (Tom Welling) secret unless he promises to give her exclusive information on the red-blue blur so she can become a star reporter again. Refusing to be blackmailed, Clark tells Lois (Erica Durance) his secret and asks her to write his story for The Daily Planet. Glen Winter directed the episode written by Caroline Dries (#3T7465).

Official Description for 816, TURBULENCE:

TESS SETS A TRAP FOR CLARK — Tess (Cassidy Freeman) invites Clark (Tom Welling) to a press conference in New York but when an explosion rocks the private jet they are on, Clark must figure out how to save them without Tess learning his secret. Unbeknownst to Clark, Tess orchestrated the explosion to get Clark to reveal his powers. Meanwhile, Davis (Sam Witwer) discovers a surprising way to control the monster within. Kevin Fair directed the episode written by Turi Meyer & Al Septien (#3T7466).

[JheyDC]

Nice.

[FVD]

Clark revealing his secret to Lois already? Don't know if I can accept that yet. :omg:

[Tornado]

People really have a hard time using spoiler tags in this thread. I will never understand it. :(

[EnderDeschain]

That last exchange there is a joke, right?

[Tornado]

No.

[EnderDeschain]

So I'll take that a yes, then. Now I will be surprised when it happens. Or maybe I'll be surprised if it doesn't, 'cuz I'm totally confused now. Awesome.

And oh yeah, as far as your disagreeing with the "take their situations less seriously" thing, you're right in that Superman is a serious character. But that doesn't mean the show has to be uber-serious, or that every character in it does. You mentioned Jimmy, and I'd had that thought myself, that he's severely underutilized when it comes to his potential for comic relief. He could be that character, the one I mentioned, in fact he should be. But he isn't. I have to wonder how much of that is due to the fact that the writers just don't seem very good at humor. Jimmy channeling Xander wouldn't really distract from Clark's gravity, I don't think, but it would give the show something it sorely needs. Meh. I sure can ***** a lot but I doubt I'd be able to write him any better. Meh.

[Alien]

Official Description for 815, INFAMOUS:

TORI SPELLING RETURNS AS LINDA LAKE — Linda Lake (guest star Spelling) returns to Metropolis and threatens to expose Clark's (Tom Welling) secret unless he promises to give her exclusive information on the red-blue blur so she can become a star reporter again. Refusing to be blackmailed, Clark tells Lois (Erica Durance) his secret and asks her to write his story for The Daily Planet. Glen Winter directed the episode written by Caroline Dries (#3T7465).

Official Description for 816, TURBULENCE:

TESS SETS A TRAP FOR CLARK — Tess (Cassidy Freeman) invites Clark (Tom Welling) to a press conference in New York but when an explosion rocks the private jet they are on, Clark must figure out how to save them without Tess learning his secret. Unbeknownst to Clark, Tess orchestrated the explosion to get Clark to reveal his powers. Meanwhile, Davis (Sam Witwer) discovers a surprising way to control the monster within. Kevin Fair directed the episode written by Turi Meyer & Al Septien (#3T7466).
8.15:-The return of Tori Spelling? Kinda weird for such a random forgetable character to come back if it's all in Clark's head.

If it's not all in Clark's head then the deus ex machina mind wipe had better be good.

8.16:-That write up shows either there must be some sort of deus ex machina mind wipe in 8.15 or Tess just doesn't read her own paper. Maybe she think's it was in a joke colum or something.



People really have a hard time using spoiler tags in this thread. I will never understand it. :(
If it's Official then it's not needed to be in any spoiler tags. It's only talking about what is basically a blurb from a TV guide. I only use them since you did.

[Tornado]

If it's Official then it's not needed to be in any spoiler tags. It's only talking about what is basically a blurb from a TV guide. I only use them since you did.

Wrong.

If if we're discussing known facts about an episode that has not aired, it needs to be blacked out/tagged. Them's the rules.

[Alien]

I dissagree. Spoilers that tell you all the info about an episode is one thing but an Official Blurb is another thing all together and shouldn't need to be tagged. If they The WB (Or who ever does the show now) think it's okay for us to know it then it is okay to read.

[Tornado]

You're wrong, Alien. Those are the rules for every other television thread too. It's not open for debate.

[JheyDC]

Order in the Court! hehehe sorry :redface:

[Angelixx]

if its ANY information about ANYTHING that has not yet aired on the television it should be in spoilers to be safe. end of story.

[JheyDC]

I agree, some people have not seen the spoilers that have aired or that have been posted on other sites so yeah...spoiler tags are needed.

[carnage4u]

I continue to watch this show on DVD

I have now finished season 4.. I will start season 5 probably later in the week


I will say I enjoyed season 4 a lot. I didnt like season 3 that much.


Of course I hate the character of Lana, she sucks the enjoyment out of 80% of the scenes she is in, but cant do much about that.


I really dont know what the overall opinion is on which seasons are better/worse from the long times fans of the show

but so far season 4 then season, 2 then season 1 , then season 3, would be how I rank them as far as enjoyable go.

[Tornado]

Out of the first four seasons:

1. Season 4
2. Season 3
3. Season 2 (only third for the purpose of ranking)
4. Season 1 (I had some problems with Season 1)

[sshuttari]

Dude what the hell Alien!

damn how hard is it to use spoiler tags.

[FVD]

Yikes my bad guys. Ah well what's done is done. I shan't make the same mistake again. :redface:

[unity768]

Out of the first four seasons:

1. Season 4
2. Season 3
3. Season 2 (only third for the purpose of ranking)
4. Season 1 (I had some problems with Season 1)

Season 4 first? really? I just could not tolerate the witch storyline that shadowed the entire season. But it did have some awesome episodes.

[Tornado]

The witch storyline only showed up in like, five episodes tops. The rest of the season was awesome.

[FVD]

...plus it was the introduction of Lois Lane. In all honesty this was the first Season that got me into SV. I started watching from the moment I learned that Lois was gonna be introduced. And I've admired Erica Durance ever since. :D

[unity768]

The witch storyline only showed up in like, five episodes tops. The rest of the season was awesome.

They had Jensen Ackles added to the cast of regulars....just for that plot really. It had a lot to do with the season. Clark finding the stones was good but having them connected with some witch folklore was just really a pathetic way to write Lana into the fortress mythology.

[Tornado]

It had a lot to do with the season.

Go back and watch the season again. It may have come up in conversation every now and then between Lana/Jason or Jason/Genevieve (his mother), but that was a pretty rare occurrence. The witch storyline was not prominent at all in Season 4, and for the most part was kept sitting on the back burner. I can only think of four episodes that really dealt with the story: Crusade, Spell, Sacred, and Commencement (only briefly).

[Alien]

Dude what the hell Alien!

damn how hard is it to use spoiler tags.
Em, I did...

[Tornado]

Promo images for next week's episode are up at K-Site.

[Darth Maul]

so is there a new episode next week? or the week after that? i forget...

[Tornado]

Yeah, we're getting four new episodes starting next week (March 12th). The final episode of that batch airs on April 2nd. Then we go on hiatus again until April 23rd, but it's a straight shot to the finale (May 14th) at that point.

[Tornado]

The title to episode 21 is INJUSTICE.

It seems likely that Tess's gang of powered-misfits will be rearing their ugly heads. I have several issues with this, namely that I just kind of think it's a stupid side plot. It has been more or less forgotten as of several episodes ago, and I think it frankly should have been kept that way.

Also, Erica Durance is sitting this one out. What the hell? She's only slated to appear in 12 episodes this season (counting the season finale). That's just ridiculous. She's contracted for 13, and the original idea before Season 8 began was to bring her in for more episodes.

[Neverending]

Yeah, we're getting four new episodes starting next week (March 12th). The final episode of that batch airs on April 2nd. Then we go on hiatus again until April 23rd, but it's a straight shot to the finale (May 14th) at that point.

They should have aired a new episode tonight and added a sneak peek of Watchmen. It's interesting that they've only done this with Batman Begins.

[JheyDC]

Approximately one week before the next episode airs! Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

[Tornado]

They should have aired a new episode tonight and added a sneak peek of Watchmen. It's interesting that they've only done this with Batman Begins.

They aired the teaser for Superman Returns during Season 5's Solitude too. I think it's just the fact that Batman and Superman are related properties, whereas Watchmen really isn't.

[Tornado]

The official description for 817 HEX:

IT’S FREAKY FRIDAY FOR CHLOE AND LOIS WHEN DC CHARACTER ZATANNA APPEARS — At Chloe’s (Allison Mack) birthday party, a mysterious magician
named Zatanna (guest star Serinda Swan) grants Chloe’s wish to be more like Lois (Erica Durance) and switches the two into each other’s bodies. Zatanna searches for her father’s book of spells so she can conjure up his spirit but not before also granting Clark (Tom Welling) his deepest wish. Aaron Ashmore and Justin Hartley also star. Description posted on KryptonSite. Mairzee Almas directed the episode
written by Bryan Q. Miller (#3T7467).

Also, another new cast image. I don't get why they keep releasing them now. It seems odd. Save the budget for cast shots next season.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8party.jpg

[Tornado]

HUGE SPOILERS, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

UPDATED 3/6/09: The printed edition of Entertainment Weekly contains a HUGE season finale spoiler not posted online by Ausiello: "A long-running character bites the dust." Time to place bets...?

------------------

It's gotta be Chloe. Who else would it be? If you looked at a list of every long-running character on the show still alive, you've got - Clark, Chloe, Lois, Jimmy, Oliver, the rest of the Justice League. Taking into account I really don't think we're going to see a huge, epic showdown between Clark and Doomsday until Season 9, I doubt it'd be Clark's death Ausiello is referring to. Yeah... my bets are on Chloe. And frankly, I guess I'd be OK with that. Last season I would have been pretty disappointed, but her character has really gone down an awkward path this season. I think her death would spark Clark into becoming Superman more than anything else.

[Tornado]

Holy ****. From Ausiello:

'Smallville' exclusive: Two characters will die

The Grim Reaper is once again descending on Smallville, and this time he's not foolin' around.

Multiple sources confirm to me exclusively that two pivotal characters will bite the dust in this May's season finale. And in a bit of a departure for Smallville, both deaths will stick. "These characters will die and they will stay dead," maintains my insider. "This is the real deal."

Of course, that's not to say producers aren't planning a twist or two, because they are. But I'm told those twists do not involve bringing either character back to life.

If you're looking for another clue, you're out of luck. I'm not even going to do one of those morbid charts where I assess each character's chances for survival. I wouldn't want to do anything beyond writing this spoilery story to ruin the surprises in store.

Eh, one more little tease won't hurt anyone: One character qualifies as a Smallville vet... the other one, not so much.

---------------

It's gotta be Chloe and Davis.

[JheyDC]

HUGE SPOILERS, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

I think her death would spark Clark into becoming Superman more than anything else.

This I would have to agree with. I've always thought it was Chloe that really pushes Clark over the edge with embracing his destiny.

Holy ****. From Ausiello:
It's gotta be Chloe and Davis.

Thanks for sharing that bit. Maybe your right..But it might be Tess and Chloe

Though I can picture both Chloe and Davis dying together or Chloe sacrificing herself to Davis...maybe..just maybe

[Spirited Away]

I think it will be Chloe and Davis, but Doomsday will be sticking around.

[Tornado]

The season finale is called Doomsday.

I'd tag it, but is there really anybody out there who didn't see this coming?

Also, new episode tonight! I'm... kinda enthused about it. Ending on two horrible episodes and then a month break didn't exactly help build my interest in what's to come.

[true fan11212]

Also, new episode tonight! I'm... kinda enthused about it. Ending on two horrible episodes and then a month break didn't exactly help build my interest in what's to come.

Can't blame you. I wasn't a big fan of the beginning of this season but the last three or four episodes before the first break re-energized my interest in the show. Hell, even when they came back, Legion showed how great the rest of the season was shaping up to be but it was all down hill after that, and now I'm not sure what to think. Sure, Lana is gone but the way she left puts a stink in the air of Clark's development and pretty much weakens the development of the Lois/Clark romance.

[Tolkien]

Gonna be at a friend's house tonight for a party. Is it wrong if I use their TV while I'm there? lol.

[JheyDC]

8 Hours to go! Woot! Almost forgot! :)

[Tornado]

Eight hours to go? When are you watching it? It's on in less than 90 minutes. You can't watch it live?

[RingWraith2k4]

Clark can't sit with Lois for a little cup of coffee!?!?! WTF!?!?!

[EnderDeschain]

No kiddin', I was thinking that myself. I also don't fully understand his "Lois can never know" logic. What does Lois finding out in the first timeline have to do with anything? Is he just assuming that Lois wouldn't be able to keep it a secret and would automatically out him, resulting in everything that happened the first time? 'Cuz that's a pretty big assumption to make. And judging by how she acted toward him during their little good-bye in the barn, he oughta know that she probably won't betray him. Bleh, whatever.

This was disappointing. I mean it was cool for the first while. When he told Lois I was pretty thrilled, but as soon as it showed him standing there looking at that newspaper headline with his face on it I knew it was all gonna get undone. So the rest was just a formality. Almost nothing came from it, except for Clark's inexplicable resolve to not tell Lois now. If Lois had actually finished her sentence about Davis and Clark came back with that new knowledge, now that would have been interesting and at least something concrete would have resulted from tonight. And really, why in the hell would he not at least let her finish her sentence before putting the ring on? I hope next week's better.

[Tornado]

I enjoyed it for the most part, but I was really hoping Clark would join Lois for the coffee. Personally, I would have ended it with Clark taking a deep breath and then walking over there, Lois smiling as Clark sits down across from her, a cut to Clark smiling back before he starts talking (this is muted under some kind of score), and then the camera slowly pulls out before we fade to black.

Next week looks very interesting though. I don't see him flying just yet, but that'd be pretty awesome if it happens. Despite the fact the sudden stop would kill Tess, it seems more likely he'll just drop out of the plane and land on his feet on the ground.

[RingWraith2k4]

^That should've been the ending. sigh!

[FVD]

I actually enjoyed the episode too. Like Torn said I too would have wished Clark join Lois for that coffee. And when Davis stepped into that room with Linda Lake confined to her bed, I just prayed kill her kill her kill her.

I got some satisfaction out of that episode after all. :D

Was actually wondering with the ring if he would have gone back erasing the Lana debacle too. I know I would have. Ah well. :rolleyes:

[Tornado]

I was kind of hoping Clark would go back in time and save that woman's husband from the crane accident. "Why does Clark Kent get to decide who lives and who dies?" It seemed like an easy set-up.

[unity768]

Finally back to some quality Smallville. Episode def got weaker and weaker as it went along but or the most part I was extremely satisfied with what they accomplished. Linda Lake is not an interesting villain and I just can't stand Tori Spelling. Loved the Doomsday scenes and all of the hero-esque Clark scenes we got. Def could have been top tier but settled to be good. Flight next week?

Odyssey - B
Plastique - B+
Toxic - C
Instinct - B
Committed - C+
Prey - A-
Identity - A
Bloodline - B+
Abyss - A
Bride - A
Legion - A-
Bulletproof - C
Power - F
Requiem - D+
Infamous - B

[Tornado]

Odyssey - A-
Plastique - B-
Toxic - C-
Instinct - C
Committed - A-
Prey - A
Identity - A+
Bloodline - A-
Abyss - A
Bride - A-
Legion - A+
Bulletproof - C
Power - F
Requiem - F
Infamous - B

Yeah, that's probably about right.

[Darth Maul]

I enjoyed it for the most part, but I was really hoping Clark would join Lois for the coffee. Personally, I would have ended it with Clark taking a deep breath and then walking over there, Lois smiling as Clark sits down across from her, a cut to Clark smiling back before he starts talking (this is muted under some kind of score), and then the camera slowly pulls out before we fade to black.

Next week looks very interesting though. I don't see him flying just yet, but that'd be pretty awesome if it happens. Despite the fact the sudden stop would kill Tess, it seems more likely he'll just drop out of the plane and land on his feet on the ground.

Probably just too soon, that's my guess. They're probably saving it for next season, glad tori got snuffed out ;) I was hoping that doomsday was going to rip her head off.

[Neverending]

why in the hell would he not at least let her finish her sentence before putting the ring on?

Because Clark is an idiot. Haven't you learned anything from the past 8 seasons? ;)

seems more likely he'll just drop out of the plane and land on his feet on the ground.

That sounds incredibly lame.

[Tolkien]

What about Smallville have you not considered lame? ;)

Havn't seen the episode yet, but plan to when I can.

[Tornado]

Probably just too soon, that's my guess. They're probably saving it for next season, glad tori got snuffed out ;) I was hoping that doomsday was going to rip her head off.

Too soon? Too soon for what? Having coffee together as friends? I don't buy it.

Also, the official description for the 18th episode of the season, ETERNAL:

DAVIS BLOOME'S HISTORY IS REVEALED — Tess (Cassidy Freeman) tries to kill Davis (Sam Witwer) by blowing up his truck. However, after he escapes, she realizes she needs help to destroy him and turns to Clark (Tom Welling). Tess reveals Davis' secret childhood with the Luthors and hints that she knows Clark's true identity. Meanwhile, Davis runs to Chloe (Allison Mack) for help. Posted on KryptonSite. James Marshall directed the episode written by Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders (#3T7468).

[RingWraith2k4]

Too soon? Too soon for what? Having coffee together as friends? I don't buy it.

I agree. I really felt bad for Lois in that episode. Clark really didn't come off great in that moment.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Put one foot behind the other and soon you'll be walking out the door. This episode was awful. Clark went back to his Season 6/7 self and it bugged the hell out of me. Just when he thought he was making progress. He truly is Jor-El's son especially since Jor-El is stupid on this show too The ring was also a real copout and Clark leaving Lois waiting in the coffee place was just cold and heartless. This isn't Superman at all. Superman would at least go have coffee with Lois.

Bad episode. 3/10

[Tornado]

There is so much wrong with that post, I wouldn't even know where to start a reply.

[Darth Maul]

There is so much wrong with that post, I wouldn't even know where to start a reply.

:lol:

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

Just finally watched last weeks episode on my DVR. Typical Smallville, right on the door step of greatness only to slam the door of disapointment right in the viewers faces. Welling and Durance have great chemistry but for some reason the writers don't want to "rush" (it's only season EIGHT) us poor mentally unsophisticated fans into a Lois and Clark relationship. This show continually puts the carrot out there for all to see and we gladly chase it around the track, till we get to the end and realize we were duped, just like anyone who actually thinks Un-Superman will actually fly this week. This show is just a tease to anyone hoping that DC and WB will ever give them something great involving the Superman character.
In fact NOTHING can be done with this ONCE great character until DC's cash cow Batman has another crack at the Box-office Jackpot. So I hope everyone likes seeing some clueless, self pitying, guy with the same pathetic Blue T-shirt and Red Denim jacket run around (that is when Chloe can track his villans on Google, I mean why use your Super hearing,intelligence,or x-ray vision when Chloes got the Google) and ponder what it would be like to be a Super Man.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

Yeah, I had high hopes for this season but it seems to be drifting into Season 6/7 style of horridness. This was a big blow on the Clark character imo.

[Art_of_crime]

so I guess it's not a bad thing that I fell asleep and missed this one huh.

[Tornado]

Yes it is. Skid Row doesn't know what he's talking about. This was a landmark episode in the course of the series. It could have been better, but in terms of what the episode achieved it's not one to miss.

[Art_of_crime]

not that i don't find you helpful, but your avatar makes me think you might be a little biased.
thanks for the input though
appreciated

[Neverending]

What about Smallville have you not considered lame? ;)

Erica Durance's boobs.

[Tornado]

not that i don't find you helpful, but your avatar makes me think you might be a little biased.
thanks for the input though
appreciated

[sighs]

Just watch it and you'll see what I mean.

[sshuttari]

I finally watched last weeks episode. Don't really want to go in depth with the episode. But I can say is that I have a lot of problems with it.

2 things that really brought the quality of the show down for me were when Clark went back in time to capture Linda Lake and stop her from writing the article about him he some how didn't run into himself or if the past has changed now Clark doesn't need to go to the past to fix it so shouldn't there be 2 clarks.

Other problem, how the hell does Linda Lake know about doomsday and telling him to release the beast.

Seriously those are 2 huge plot holes wtf...

[JheyDC]

The only problem I had with the episode was the whole Coffee thing, basically agreeing with you guys. I guess we can just say that Clark doesn't want to get too close to Lois because he's afraid she'll get hurt. Since she's been giving him signs and stuff, he decides its best to just distance himself. I don't know...whatever...But the episode wasn't bad at all. One major scene was Davis finally learning how to control his anger issues...by taking it out on someone else! hahahah

But yeah..overall, a good episode...a glimpse of what might have been...

[Kyle Katarn]

Because Clark is an idiot. Haven't you learned anything from the past 8 seasons? ;)


LOL! Sad, but true.

I doubt anyone out there didn't see SOME kind of Dues Ex Machina coming last Thursday...

At least Supernatural made up for it and saved my night from being a disappointment. Sammy's gotten to where he could give Lord Vader a run for his money in the "choking the hell (literally) out of fools no-handed" department.

[carnage4u]

I'm on season 5.

The episode where Clark tells Lana and then she gets killed

I think if that would have stayed true it would have been a better show


The fact he changes things and then his father dies, is by far one of the lamest things I've seen on TV

Of course his father dies, but the way it was done was probably one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on TV.

I dont even know if i'll bother watching any more of this show.. Such a pathetic episode on an epic scale.

[Tornado]

While I enjoyed Reckoning (the episode you're referring to), the show does go downhill from there. The second half of Season 5, most of Season 6, and most of Season 7 are all fairly mediocre. The show didn't really pick up again until Season 8.

[Alien]

I finally watched last weeks episode. Don't really want to go in depth with the episode. But I can say is that I have a lot of problems with it.

2 things that really brought the quality of the show down for me were when Clark went back in time to capture Linda Lake and stop her from writing the article about him he some how didn't run into himself or if the past has changed now Clark doesn't need to go to the past to fix it so shouldn't there be 2 clarks.

Other problem, how the hell does Linda Lake know about doomsday and telling him to release the beast.

Seriously those are 2 huge plot holes wtf...All I thought was that if somehow Clark can go back in time and not run into his other then maybe Linda Lake went back too so knew some of the future. Really since she held the ring for an unknown time she might have used it and so can turn up again even though she appears to have died.

[Tornado]

I don't think that's how the Legion ring works. When Clark went back in time, there was no second Clark off becoming a celebrity somewhere. It's definitely possible Linda went back to dig up more dirt on Clark, but there isn't some hidden Linda out there. That wouldn't make any sense in the context of the ring's power.

[Alien]

She could've lived a whole other live between getting the ring and getting stopped by Clark when he took the ring off her.

I really wish that when he put the ring on there was some explanation as to why there wasn't another Clark walking around.

[Tornado]

I don't think an explanation was necessary; it wasn't a plot hole after all. I just assume that's how the ring works.

[Alien]

But how did it work? It just vaporizes the original version in place for the new Clark from the future?

[Tornado]

Or it course corrects the timeline so that whatever Clark was doing never happened when the "future Clark" time-traveled back. I don't think it really matters.

What I'm still a little irritated about is the fact Clark didn't let Lois finish what she was saying about Davis being Doomsday. One of my friends said something like, "Well, he was in a hurry." And I said, "Hurry? He's time-traveling, being in a 'hurry' doesn't really make a difference."

[Neverending]

Clark created an alternate 1985.

[Tornado]

Haha, I almost said, "Yeah, that's definitely a possibility too."

I see what you did there. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/24fe2831.gif

[Tornado]

Some pretty big news:

Question: Smallville scoop, please! --Jason
Ausiello: John Schneider, Annette O'Toole, and John Glover are back! Sort of! The Smallville vets will appear via flashback in the April 2 episode, which delves into Davis' backstory. Is it old footage? New footage? CGI? No comment, no comment, and no comment!

Awesome!

[JheyDC]

Yes! That is awesome news! I love it when they..

Bring back people from the past...

Hope they do this more often...

[Tornado]

Highlights of a brand new trailer:

Pw5-lfETgUM

I tell ya, I'm really starting to believe Clark may fly before the end of the season. Here's hoping! :)

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

Some pretty big news:

Question: Smallville scoop, please! --Jason
Ausiello: John Schneider, Annette O'Toole, and John Glover are back! Sort of! The Smallville vets will appear via flashback in the April 2 episode, which delves into Davis' backstory. Is it old footage? New footage? CGI? No comment, no comment, and no comment!

Awesome!

IMO, the absence of O'toole and Glover are what (as well as Michael Rosenbaum) makes Season 8 so lacking. I understand the Kent's being removed so that Clark could grow up as a character, but shouldn't he have left them not vice versa? Seeing Clark in that empty farmhouse with no Johnathan or Martha just seems odd. While Lionel's death was pivotal in Lex's turn to evil, now that Lex is gone I wish he was there to run LuthorCorp and keep tabs on Tess Mercer, kinda' like he did w/ Lex. I also feel that with Jor El and Kara being absent Clark has no guidance except Chloe, and since Smallville's Clark ALWAYS makes the wrong choices he definitely needs guidance. I was really hoping J'onn J'onzz would be like a mentor, but even he's MIA for most of season 8.
How low is the budget for this show now?

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

Highlights of a brand new trailer:

Pw5-lfETgUM

I tell ya, I'm really starting to believe Clark may fly before the end of the season. Here's hoping! :)

Well, gotta' admit the part where Clark is FLYING (or knowing Smallville just LEAPING really high) along the front of that building with Chloe saying UP UP and AWAYdid kinda' give me chills. Hopefully they come through w/ the goods, if not I have ZERO hope for season 9 being anything worth watching.

[Tornado]

Go back and edit the post above your most recent one to be in spoiler tags. I didn't tag mine out of boredom. You didn't post any direct spoilers, but people could make assumptions about what I posted based on your post. Not good.

And I think Clark has done fine this season without guidance. To a certain extent, I think everybody was holding him back, whereas now he's actually on the path to fulfilling his destiny. I do miss the family aspect of the show though.

[Neverending]

I tell ya, I'm really starting to believe Clark may fly before the end of the season. Here's hoping! :)

It's about time.

[JheyDC]

He better :mad:

[Tornado]

38 minutes!

[Tornado]

If they don't cut back to Clark and Tess falling after this commercial break, it's going to be one of the biggest let-downs in the history of the show.

[Tornado]

Hmm...

Despite having one of the biggest cop outs (if not the biggest) in the history of the show, I thought it was a pretty strong episode overall. Splitting Jimmy and Chloe was inevitable, and frankly I don't really blame him for his feelings on the situation. I just wish the episode had focused on the far more interesting story between Clark and Tess.

[unity768]

weak episode, but had some fun little foreshadow sequences.

[Angelixx]

I liked Clark changing in the phone booth. That made me fangirl a little.

[Neverending]

Is it just me or was Tess hotter in this episode.

I just wish the episode had focused on the far more interesting story between Clark and Tess.

My thoughts exactly.

[JheyDC]

hhhmmm about to watch this right now...recorded it on my DVR...hope I enjoy it...

[Tornado]

I liked Clark changing in the phone booth.

Agreed.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure my heart started racing when he "knocked out" Tess on the plane. For a minute there, I really thought he would somehow fly or fall and then float or something. And then, of course, I was left disappointed.

[Neverending]

I was left disappointed.

I wasn't disappointed because that's what I was expecting. I've been watching Smallville long enough to know all their tricks.

[DaRkKnIgHtDeTeCtIvE]

Go back and edit the post above your most recent one to be in spoiler tags. I didn't tag mine out of boredom. You didn't post any direct spoilers, but people could make assumptions about what I posted based on your post. Not good.

And I think Clark has done fine this season without guidance. To a certain extent, I think everybody was holding him back, whereas now he's actually on the path to fulfilling his destiny. I do miss the family aspect of the show though.

Thats ALL opinion and my view on what has made season 8 so weak, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to tag it and I won't. Just cause you don't like the negative tone of my posts about this continually embarrassing disapointment of a TV show, don't jump me about not tagging a NON spoiler.
Oh and BTW, the streak continues. This weeks ep was a HUGE letdown, and if next weeks preview indicates what I think is going to take place I'm not sure if I can take being insulted long enough to watch the whole episode.... POSSIBLE>> Zatana is going to be introduced and it appears she's going to give Clark what he wants and help him fly,which would give the Smallville brain trust a way to thumb there noses at everyone who want's to see Clark fly (and oh, I don't know...become SUPERMAN), a way out by saying "Well we made him fly, but he didn't do it on his own so he's not really gonna fly". And if you ask me, running around in the usual CK of Smallville clothes is 100 times more lame than a spandex costume, so no tights no flights is just really illogical at this point and more proof that Clark isn't really on any road to his "destiny", it's just a big tease. WB should be ashamed. Is that better Tornado?

[Tornado]

So have I, but I thought there was a possibility he would take flight or fall and then hover or something. I was hoping we would at least see what happened, but we didn't even get that.

[Tornado]

Thats ALL opinion and my view on what has made season 8 so weak, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to tag it and I won't. Just cause you don't like the negative tone of my posts about this continually embarrassing disapointment of a TV show, don't jump me about not tagging a NON spoiler.

First, take a step back. Read MY post without clicking on the spoiler link. Just read what I wrote, just the basic text. And then read the first sentence of YOUR post. You started making references to what MY spoiler tags were hiding. I don't care that you don't like the show, what drives me nuts is that NOBODY here knows how to use the damn spoiler tags. They are there for a reason!

Oh and BTW, the streak continues. This weeks ep was a HUGE letdown, and if next weeks preview indicates what I think is going to take place I'm not sure if I can take being insulted long enough to watch the whole episode.... POSSIBLE>> Zatana is going to be introduced and it appears she's going to give Clark what he wants and help him fly,which would give the Smallville brain trust a way to thumb there noses at everyone who want's to see Clark fly (and oh, I don't know...become SUPERMAN), a way out by saying "Well we made him fly, but he didn't do it on his own so he's not really gonna fly". And if you ask me, running around in the usual CK of Smallville clothes is 100 times more lame than a spandex costume, so no tights no flights is just really illogical at this point and more proof that Clark isn't really on any road to his "destiny", it's just a big tease. WB should be ashamed. Is that better Tornado?

It's not better at all. You posted speculation on a teaser that HAS AIRED. You don't need to tag any of that. If it has aired, it's fair game. If it hasn't, spoiler tags. Them's the rules.

[FVD]

Bloody computer is on dialup speed again. :mad:

I f**kin' hate Broadband caps. I wanna see this episode. :(

[Darth Maul]

That jump was a super cop out lol

and yes tess was hot

and yes the phone booth bit was a nice bit.

I hope next weeks episode is better.

[Tornado]

I'm looking forward to next week too. I'm rarely disappointed when they bring in new members of the JL, with Run and Siren being two of my favorite episodes of the series. Plus, the premise sounds good. I think it'll be fun if nothing else.

[Darth Maul]

God I just wanted to see him fly lol, but I guess all we got is a jump out of the plane...

[Alien]

Hmm...

Despite having one of the biggest cop outs (if not the biggest) in the history of the show, I thought it was a pretty strong episode overall. Splitting Jimmy and Chloe was inevitable, and frankly I don't really blame him for his feelings on the situation. I just wish the episode had focused on the far more interesting story between Clark and Tess.
Wow, that lasted long. They've only been married a few weeks.

[Art_of_crime]

i wonder how much longer people are going to put up with the way this show teases something to death, and never really delivers.
Every other superhero on this show has had some sort of evolution, or been seen flying on in costume except Clark.
WTF

[Tornado]

What sometimes helps me keep things in focus is reminding myself that Clark is only 21 at the moment. There is still a lot of time until it would seem odd that he's not Superman.

[JheyDC]

Pretty good episode last night, not upsetting at all. I'm beginning to feel that Smallville is just gonna get better from here on out.

[Neverending]

What sometimes helps me keep things in focus is reminding myself that Clark is only 21 at the moment. There is still a lot of time until it would seem odd that he's not Superman.

Tom Welling looks 30. Actually he is 30. So, seeing him as Clark is getting kinda ridiculous. We just want him to kick some butt already. Christopher Reeve was 25 when he played Superman for the first time! And so was Brandon Routh as well. Dean Cain was 27. At the rate Welling is going he'll be pulling in George Reeves numbers when he finally wears the freakin tights and cape. Reeves was 37 when he played Superman for the first time! Only a few years older than Welling is at the moment. Plus, it's been 8 years and so much of the Superman mythology has been introduced that it's time to get things rolling, even if he's only 21.

[Tornado]

While I agree with all of that (although I really don't think he looks 30... but he does look older than 21, definitely), I think some of you are asking a bit much of the character/show. He's acting very Superman-ly these days anyway, between developing the double identity this season and then the quick changes last night. He's been actively patrolling Metropolis this season too... he's made a lot of progress in a short amount of time.

What I'm anxious to see is how he's going to make the transition from the Red-Blue-Blur to Superman. It seems likely that Doomsday will kill the "RBB" in the Season 8 finale, so when Clark inevitably comes back to life (for like, the third time in the course of the series) he won't have that baggage anymore and will be able to progress into Superman by the end of Season 9.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

I hate to say it. But yeah Welling is looking very old now. In fact, he's old enough to wear the Supe costume. I mean he's looking older than Routh.

[Tornado]

That's not the point. The character is 21. Tom Welling may be old enough, but I don't think Clark is yet. And that, ultimately, is the only thing that matters at the moment.

[bbf2]

I don't think the lack of flying was the show's fault, necessarily. It was all the CW's promo department who teased us and made it seem like Clark was going to fly. If you hadn't scene the promos you wouldn't be expecting him to fly. (The plane scene was KIND of set up to make you think that he might, unless you remembered other scenes earlier in the series where he got out of similar situations by superjumping or something)

One thing I don't like about this show is how they handle Jimmy Olson. So now Jimmy Olson is a bitter, angsty, drug addicted, divorced trauma victim?

How exactly is he supposed to become "Superman's pal" (the light hearted, bowtied cub photographer) later after going through all this stuff? Especially since Clark is responsible for a lot of the angst that made him go through a bitter divorce...

[Tornado]

I don't think the lack of flying was the show's fault, necessarily. It was all the CW's promo department who teased us and made it seem like Clark was going to fly. If you hadn't scene the promos you wouldn't be expecting him to fly. (The plane scene was KIND of set up to make you think that he might, unless you remembered other scenes earlier in the series where he got out of similar situations by superjumping or something)

True, but they did say something like "Brace Yourself, for Emergency Flight" in the preview, which I would say is intentionally misleading. It's been eight years, I honestly thought maybe he would fly to some extent. I actually kinda thought he and Tess would drop as they did, but I thought the camera would follow them and Clark would being slowing down as they fell, until they were hovering like a foot off the ground before they just dropped.

[bbf2]

True, but they did say something like "Brace Yourself, for Emergency Flight" in the preview, which I would say is intentionally misleading.

It IS intentionally misleading, but the CW's promo department made that preview, not the showmakers themselves, so its not their fault. The show didn't make the scene with the intention of getting people to think that he was going to fly, the network saw the episode and were like "Hey, let's get people to tune in by showing them scenes from this plane scene and saying something about flying!"

[bbf2]

The more I think about the Jimmy Olson thing the more it kind of annoys me. They have gone way, way, too far away from what he is supposed to become in the comics, and I don't see anyway he can ever become "Superman's pal,"(a well meaning mostly naive sidekick dude.)

They kind of ruined it already when he was first introduced by having him be the same age and a romantic rival to Clark of sorts, but having him go through all this stuff like a bitter divorce and drug addiction (as well as being kind of a jerk) before Superman even arrives on the scene makes it seem even less likely. I mean I can understand they have to change the characters around a bit but this seems like way too much.

The problem may be in the fact that they wanted to create a love interest for Chloe and wanted to name-drop an established Superman character in there, so they put in Jimmy Olson and then just had him go through all effed-up soap opera twists and turns of the plot without any regard to what the character is supposed to be like when Superman shows up.

I mean all the other iconic characters that have been introduced have started out different and then eventually became more mature/like their counterparts (Clark started out scared and then eventually became a hero saving people, Lois started out as an immature brat and then eventually became a mature professional reporter, Lex started out as a good guy then eventually became corrupted) but since Jimmy is SUPPOSED to be naive and immature he's been growing further and further from what his comic counterpart is supposed to be like.

I don't even think much of this is Ashmore's fault - he seemed to be pretty good at playing Jimmy when they first introduced him and he had flashes of being a well meaning excitable cub reporter (despite the Chloe romance.) But all that is pretty much gone now, which is especially apparent in "Turbulence."

I mean I understand they have to make the characters a little bit different, but at this point if Superman ever appears in this universe he would go to the Daily Planet to find a haggard chain-smoking Jimmy Olson who happens to be his best friend's a**hole ex-husband.

[King_of_Skid_Row]

See there wouldn't be any problems if they just goty Chloe hooked up with the Flash. I will always support the Chloe/Flash pairing.

[Neverending]

This Jimmy Olsen stuff would bother me too if I actually cared about the character. The only Jimmy Olsen I ever liked was:

http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/final_destination_2/michael_landes/final.jpg

[Tornado]

The more I think about the Jimmy Olson thing the more it kind of annoys me. They have gone way, way, too far away from what he is supposed to become in the comics, and I don't see anyway he can ever become "Superman's pal,"(a well meaning mostly naive sidekick dude.)

They kind of ruined it already when he was first introduced by having him be the same age and a romantic rival to Clark of sorts, but having him go through all this stuff like a bitter divorce and drug addiction (as well as being kind of a jerk) before Superman even arrives on the scene makes it seem even less likely. I mean I can understand they have to change the characters around a bit but this seems like way too much.

The problem may be in the fact that they wanted to create a love interest for Chloe and wanted to name-drop an established Superman character in there, so they put in Jimmy Olson and then just had him go through all effed-up soap opera twists and turns of the plot without any regard to what the character is supposed to be like when Superman shows up.

I mean all the other iconic characters that have been introduced have started out different and then eventually became more mature/like their counterparts (Clark started out scared and then eventually became a hero saving people, Lois started out as an immature brat and then eventually became a mature professional reporter, Lex started out as a good guy then eventually became corrupted) but since Jimmy is SUPPOSED to be naive and immature he's been growing further and further from what his comic counterpart is supposed to be like.

I don't even think much of this is Ashmore's fault - he seemed to be pretty good at playing Jimmy when they first introduced him and he had flashes of being a well meaning excitable cub reporter (despite the Chloe romance.) But all that is pretty much gone now, which is especially apparent in "Turbulence."

I mean I understand they have to make the characters a little bit different, but at this point if Superman ever appears in this universe he would go to the Daily Planet to find a haggard chain-smoking Jimmy Olson who happens to be his best friend's a**hole ex-husband.

Agreed. And personally, I don't it getting better anytime soon.

[EnderDeschain]

I thought it was a pretty good episode. I really dug the Tess thing about "you really don't have a bad bone in your body," which reminds everyone that Clark is someone we'll never understand no matter how hard we try. 'Cuz the rest of us have several, some even bad cartilege. I wasn't sure how to feel about the whole Davis arc, especially when they wussed out when he was about to change in front of Chloe, but then I saw next week's preview. I broke down and watched the preview, goddamnit, which I almost never do but for some reason I did and now I regret it 'cuz I'm expecting much awesomeness out of next week which will probably disappoint me. Anyway, Davis' "I was sent here to kill you" line shows beyond a doubt that something's gonna change with him next week, which is awesome.

I liked Clark changing in the phone booth. That made me fangirl a little.

Word. Well, minus the "girl" part. I thought that was 10 kinds of terrific.

Is it just me or was Tess hotter in this episode.

Yes. ****in way hotter, and I can't even say why. During the airplane scene when she was all giving Clark the soulful look and particularly when she said "I've told you my secret, tell me yours" I was thinking god, I'd tell her whatever the heck she wanted to hear if she looked at me that way. I was never really fond of her before, in fact I hated her at first, but after those scenes a couple-few episodes ago when she was doing kickboxing in those tight pants and the tube top I started getting a different appreciation for her. This one added a lot to that, not only is she hot but she's got some gorgeous ****in eyes too. I don't know how I didn't notice that before.

I'm looking forward to next week too. I'm rarely disappointed when they bring in new members of the JL

I would agree with you, but it's friggin Zatanna. She's maybe the lamest member ever in the JLA, except maybe Plastic Man. Who, come to think of it, would actually be kind of cool to see on Smallville. At least he's got enough of a personality to counteract his extreme inherent dorkiness. Zatanna has fish-nets. She sucks. And not in the good way.

Anyhoo, this one was way better than last week, anyway. I hope next week's better still.

[JheyDC]

New spoilers are up for the Season Finale Doomsday @ Kryptonsite.com

[Angelixx]

that was an awesome episode. I don't remember laughing out loud during a smallville episode in a long time.

"you're absolutely right Lois...911?" bahaha awesome. and his delivery, well done Welling haha

and umm....did Clark fly? or is leaping defined as different from flying? Cus if that counted as flying im pretty effing shocked right now lol

[unity768]

I laughed out loud as well, probably the strongest episode since Legion. Really impressive stuff.

[unity768]

Odyssey - B
Plastique - B+
Toxic - C
Instinct - B-
Committed - C+
Prey - A-
Identity - A
Bloodline - B+
Abyss - A
Bride - A
Legion - A-
Bulletproof - C
Power - F
Requiem - D+
Infamous - B
Turbulence - C
Hex - A-

[Tornado]

I don't think it was flight, Angel. :(

I thought it was a pretty good episode, but I'm really tired of flight being teased constantly without it going anywhere.

[EnderDeschain]

I agree that it was good. Way better than I expected it to be with Zatanna. What the heck was the deal last week when they showed the same bit with Davis on the previews that they showed this week? I was expecting that this week, the one time I watch a preview and it was evidently the wrong one. Bummer.

Anyway, yeah, I chuckled a few times during this one. The 911 part, and especially the part with the door handle. I lol'd at that. This was a nice little stand-alone break from the rest of the season, unlike week before last's stand-alone which I found kind of useless. I really dig how they seem to have quickly swept the heartbroke-over-Lana bull**** under the rug and gotten right back to where they were (pretty much) with Clark and Lois before Lana's return.

[Angelixx]

I agree that it was good. Way better than I expected it to be with Zatanna. What the heck was the deal last week when they showed the same bit with Davis on the previews that they showed this week? I was expecting that this week, the one time I watch a preview and it was evidently the wrong one. Bummer.

Anyway, yeah, I chuckled a few times during this one. The 911 part, and especially the part with the door handle. I lol'd at that. This was a nice little stand-alone break from the rest of the season, unlike week before last's stand-alone which I found kind of useless. I really dig how they seem to have quickly swept the heartbroke-over-Lana bull**** under the rug and gotten right back to where they were (pretty much) with Clark and Lois before Lana's return.
Agreed. Right back to Lois and Clark. Very happy to see that.

Also with the whole scene at the end where Lois is all "lets keep it business" and calls him out on the not having coffee made me very satisfied. Good on Lois, i mean it was just COFFEE. Geez Clark.

I don't think it was flight, Angel. :(

I thought it was a pretty good episode, but I'm really tired of flight being teased constantly without it going anywhere.

guh. I figured it would be too good to be true to have flight show up in a stand alone episode like this. I punched the air and everything :(

[Neverending]

It was a good filler episode. My only complain is that Zatanna was wearing too much cloths.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/3093809607_1652fc2016_o.jpg

[Alien]

It was a good filler episode. My only complain is that Zatanna was wearing too much cloths.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/3093809607_1652fc2016_o.jpg
:applaud: :csgrin: :applaud: :csgrin: :applaud: :csgrin: :applaud: :csgrin: :applaud:

[JheyDC]

Great episode last night. Watched it around 11:00 pm..Didn't expect it to be that good but I was looking forward to it. I was glad Oliver didn't give up the book and tried to destroy it. I would've been mad if he did, showing us that Oliver is not an all around good guy. I was happy. Also loved the part in the end where Zatanna gives Oliver her card and he's like, "So what is this, I say your name three times and you appear" "No, its my phone number"...LOL

[JheyDC]

I also saw different trailers and was confused as to what episode was airing...

[Spirited Away]

New spoilers for Episode 821 and 822:

Injustice: two new DC villains are being introduced - Parasite and Livewire - and joining the existing ones we've seen before.

Doomsday - in addition to two lead characters dying, some other series regulars will also be leaving the show. My money's on Green Arrow being downgraded to a recurring character. Also: all 7 lead actors are in the finale.
http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

[JheyDC]

Awesome spoilers right there. Thanks for posting...

[Spirited Away]

It's worth remembering DC Comics have relaxed their policy over 'Smallville', and now [finally] class it an Elseworld. That means Lois, Jimmy and Oliver can also be killed off too.

If PS3 want to shock the community, they'll kill either Jimmy or Lois. Jimmy's death would serve as a reminder that good people die. Lois' would do the same, but of course, it would have devastating consequences for Clark.

I find Chloe is far too easy to kill off, and although it would piss me off if Lois went, I wouldn't mind Chlark replacing it.

[JheyDC]

Don't think it'll be the second guy you mentioned there..or the first..or the third...just my opinion..

[Tornado]

I could them maybe killing off Oliver, but if they kill Lois then I'm probably done.

[Spirited Away]

"The person dying is not Chloe", at least according to EW.com.
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/ask-ausiello-sp.html

Really doesn't leave that many options open...

[Freelow]

I could them maybe killing off Oliver, but if they kill Lois then I'm probably done.

Killing off Oliver Queen (Green Arrow) would not severely screw with DC mythology. This character has died before in the DC universe and brought back. So, having this character bite it in the show will not really affect the DC universe too much - it could be explained away.

[JheyDC]

That's too bad. I guess they used up his character to the extent that they don't need 'em anymore!

[Tornado]

Now that I've come to terms with the idea of Chloe dying, I'd almost rather they just go ahead and do that.

[JheyDC]

Hmmm..I guess they could do that..but Chloe fit in so well with the Justice League as Watch Tower, she's so right for the part..

[JheyDC]

An hour and 10 minutes for me...anyone watch it already?

[Chessh2936]

I was expecting HUGE things out of tonights episode, but I was let down lol oh well.

But why are you guys convinced it is not Chole who dies anymore?

[Spirited Away]

See my post above.

Is it possible Lana will come back for the finale? Perhaps that's why Clois fans will be happy, they're finally getting rid of her, for good!

[Tornado]

There's no way Lana is coming back.

I thought tonight's episode was pretty good. I was hoping we would see Lois again, but there's always next week. I thought it was a let-down seeing the orb in Tess' control... I had kinda hoped we'd moved past that storyline, but apparently not.

[Neverending]

If by big you mean action then you're right. If by big you mean storyline then you're wrong. This episode was great. Everything is all set up for the season finale.


I was hoping we would see Lois again, but there's always next week.

Is there new Smallville next week? The previews said April 23rd.

[Tornado]

Yeah, my mistake. I wasn't thinking.

[JheyDC]

This episode blew me away. The storyline and dialogue was right on. Would need to pull up the script somewhere if I can find it, they had really good ones. The flashback music with Lex and Davis was awesome, very mysterious and suspenseful. Its just weird they're just mentioning in detail that Lionel knew all along that Clark is Kal-el from the very start. I'm beginning to see that Chloe is really sacrificing herself to save Clark and the world by staying with Davis. Also I'm beginning to think that Tornado was right with his assumptions and theories a few pages back...about Clark, possibly dying then coming back..after Eternal, I was hooked on that Tornado...good job..overall this episode is one of my favorites...

[Neverending]

I'm beginning to think that Tornado was right with his assumptions and theories a few pages back...about Clark, possibly dying then coming back

Yea, the episode pretty much confirmed that. Also, season 9 HAS to be the last. He'll definitely be Superman by that point. He may not have the costume but he'll be him alright.

[JheyDC]

Well I give Davis props for trying to out himself and to save the world. Really a great episode...enough said...

[Tornado]

The official description for the next episode, Stiletto:

LOIS LANE IS A SUPERHERO — Lois (Erica Durance) believes that she needs a big story to secure her reputation as a star reporter but the red/blue blur continues to elude her. However, after Chloe (Allison Mack) is mugged, Lois steps in to fend off one of the attackers and uses the opportunity to pretend a new superhero, Stiletto, has come to town and is giving exclusives to Lois. Clark (Tom Welling) is concerned Lois will hurt herself pretending to be a superhero but after he is captured by thugs with kryptonite, Lois steps in to save the day.

Sounds pretty lame, hopefully that doesn't end up being the case.

[Neverending]

1. It's just another random filler episode.
2. It reminds me of the Lois & Clark episode where Superman's powers are transfered to Lois and she becomes a superhero.

[JheyDC]

Eh..would still watch it though...lets hope it doesn't suck..I did see a preview of it online..its alright...