Smallville

[Alien]

Another new promo shot for Season 8:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/s8-tom-welling.jpg
I take it you mean Season 8 Part 2, there must've been promo stuff for the start of Season 8

[Tornado]

yeah true, I see what you mean there. Vessel was the season finale of the third season right?

No, Covenant was Season 3. Vessel was Season 5. I enjoyed Covenant for the most part, but I'm still not wild about the idea of Jor-El manipulating Clark with a fake Kara.

I take it you mean Season 8 Part 2, there must've been promo stuff for the start of Season 8

Rarely do I say something and mean something else. ;)

No, we got almost nothing at the beginning of the season. We got a goofy photoshopped poster, some quick stills of Oliver, Dinah, and A.C. (and actually, I think those were promos for Odyssey rather than the season as a whole), stuff for Davis and Tess, and maybe a shot or two for Lois (Erica always gets new shots, I'm not sure why).

[Tornado]

15 minutes!!!

[ViRUs]

No, Covenant was Season 3. Vessel was Season 5. I enjoyed Covenant for the most part, but I'm still not wild about the idea of Jor-El manipulating Clark with a fake Kara.



Rarely do I say something and mean something else. ;)

No, we got almost nothing at the beginning of the season. We got a goofy photoshopped poster, some quick stills of Oliver, Dinah, and A.C. (and actually, I think those were promos for Odyssey rather than the season as a whole), stuff for Davis and Tess, and maybe a shot or two for Lois (Erica always gets new shots, I'm not sure why).

oh yeah, my bad. I knew it was something like that. I liked the last two, so i cant wait to see the fifth. Hope you enjoy the new one about to come on here soon.

[Tornado]

Christ that was an awesome cold opening...

[Angelixx]

agreed. im practically giddy!

[Dr. Osterman]

As I said in the "series finale" thread, I'm not entirely convinced the series will end with Lois not knowing Clark's secret. So there's nothing to debate on that, yet.



Yeah, I misread what you said.

But in order to answer your question, it depends on what your definition of "logic" means. Because Van McNulty attempted to shoot Lex (in Season 3's Extinction), but ended up witnessing Clark catch the bullet before it hit Lex. I wouldn't call that logic, as Van saw Clark demonstrate his powers. Now, if you're not going to count people like Van (that goes for Ryan, Eric Summers, Maddie, and probably a dozen or so others) then there probably isn't anybody aside from Lex.

But at the same time, exactly how would you deduce that Clark has powers through "logic" without seeing him do something miraculous (forgetting the Veritas subplot with Lex for a moment)? I know what you're saying that he has saved a lot of people that didn't go to ever suspect him of having powers (the girl he saved in Season 1's Hourglass immediately comes to mind; the freak of the week threw the pre-Talon coffee-shop waitress into the street and Clark dove on top of her just before a delivery truck ran them both over), but I don't really see how you could assume Clark has powers without actually seeing him do something.

And it's not that Clark is careless, it's that a lot of times he just doesn't have enough time to consider people seeing him do something "special." Granted, that doesn't apply to every case, but it certainly works a lot of the time.

Loads of people who aren't close to Clark have directly seen him using his powers, and those of whom who are still alive and floating around somewhere still pose a threat to his anonymity, and yet, the writers haven't figured out a way of taking care of them so they're no longer a threat. Plus, even those who don't have first hand experience still have reasons to be suspicious about Clark as he's constantly showing up at crime scenes, sometimes only taking a few minutes at most to arrive when it should have taken him a lot longer, and not having a sufficient explanation. He constantly acts nervously when asked an awkward question, is always coming up with pathetic answers, and then backing away nervously. And then there are the numerous holes in the walls, vault doors ripped off and just flung away, and various other rather noticeable pieces of evidence, with no explanation, except that Clark just happens to be around and is again acting nervously. I think any reasonable person might assume Clark is more than he appears to be.

At the end of the day, this is fiction. Fiction is planned, written, and choreographed. And I think it's stupid when writers deliberately put in scenes that force a character to either make a decision that goes against his character, e.g. Batman being forced to kill, or do something he can't possibly cover up which could uncover his identity, but which practically everyone fails to notice anyway.

No, Covenant was Season 3. Vessel was Season 5. I enjoyed Covenant for the most part, but I'm still not wild about the idea of Jor-El manipulating Clark with a fake Kara.

I HATED that. Jor-El just killed that girl at the end, didn't he?

[unity768]

I loved that episode. All the ref's, etc. Just terrific stuff here. Slightly adjusted scores.

Smallville Season 8
Odyssey (7/10)
Plastique (8/10)
Toxic (5/10)
Instinct (7/10)
Committed (6/10)
Prey (9/10)
Identity (10/10)
Bloodline (8/10)
Abyss (10/10)
Bride (10/10)
Legion (9/10)

[Tornado]

I'll probably watch Legion again tomorrow and write a full review then. For now though I'll say I was blown away. My only disappointment was it was broadcast in full frame; traditionally, "Smallville" has always been shown in my area in it's proper aspect ratio. Ah well, tomorrow's viewing will rectify that. :)

Also, a full Season 8 cast photo!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-fullcast.jpg

[Tornado]

More Season 8 promos (all from K-Site):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-am1.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-ed1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-aa1.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-cf1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-sw1.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-sw2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/season8-jh1.jpg

[Neverending]

The lack of discussion is horrible! I miss the days of pre-season 7 when after an episode was over we'd get ATLEAST 10 to 15 posts. But, anyway, the episode was AWESOME!!!!! It may POSSIBLY be the best episode of Smallville ever! But...possibly! I will need to re-watch my favorite episodes before officially deciding.

[Tornado]

It's not my fault nobody is here to talk about it. :(

I miss the days of this thread being busy too.

[Darth Maul]

that was a awesome episode, agreed on the 15 mins tornado

[Tolkien]

I'm sorry if I wasn't immediately here after the episode, lol. I had Supernatural and Grey's Anatomy to watch. Not to mention the time differences and all... Okay, best episode - I can't say ever, but still amazing. I loved the whole thing were it was at the tip of their tongues from mentioning Clark's alter-ego Superman. Hated seeing Lana again, especially knowing that she'll play some major part in the history books. Great, that means we'll never be rid of her. Anyways, there's just too much to talk about right now, so I'll just let everyone else add a little too.

[Darth Maul]

I'm sorry if I wasn't immediately here after the episode, lol. I had Supernatural and Grey's Anatomy to watch. Not to mention the time differences and all... Okay, best episode - I can't say ever, but still amazing. I loved the whole thing were it was at the tip of their tongues from mentioning Clark's alter-ego Superman. Hated seeing Lana again, especially knowing that she'll play some major part in the history books. Great, that means we'll never be rid of her. Anyways, there's just too much to talk about right now, so I'll just let everyone else add a little too.

go ahead, i dont think theres anyone else here :P

[Tolkien]

Yeah well... we can dream.

[Darth Maul]

Yeah well... we can dream.

i liked the brainiac 5 reference at the end

[sshuttari]

Another great episode, didn't really know where the story was going after "Bride" but this felt like kind of a cameo episode for the Legion superheroes. Which is really cool.

Love the ending too where they give him the ring and say come visit us in the future one day.


I had all kind of crazy thoughts about that and what they could do with Clark visiting the future.

Which will probably never happen. Here's hoping we get more of the Legions.

Also Love the Brianiac 5 reference, probably should have seen it coming.

[Tornado]

You don't have to use tags; the episode has aired, and anybody coming in here is taking their chances.

Frankly, I'm a little disappointed Chloe knows Clark's secret again. I had assumed that, after Jor-El took her memories, the two would grow farther apart and there would be a good reason for Chloe not being known in the comic book continuity. I'm fairly convinced she's going to die now; probably not in this season, but most likely in the series finale or one of the episodes leading up to it.

[JheyDC]

We knew Chloe dying is coming really soon...Watched last night's episode from my DVR and I was really upset I missed the last five minutes of the show... The last scene I was watching was when they just finished rebuilding the barn then my DVR blacked out and couldn't see the last few minutes...so the Legions gave him the ring then what...oh it just pains me that Lana has that secret why she left and most likely its because of Clark..Its too bad Chloe is not in the history books..what is up with that right? I like how they pulled Braniac out of Chloe's body...that was awesome..

[Tornado]

The final scene of the episode was Doomsday (not Davis, Doomsday) broke out of his "cell" in the Fortress.

Also, we don't know Chloe is going to die.

[Darth Maul]

so i s davis permanently doomsday even though the 15 days haven't passed?

[Tornado]

I think it was actually 12 weeks, but either way I seriously doubt we've seen the last of Davis Bloome.

[JheyDC]

Well okay, we don't know for sure if Chloe is going to die..maybe after all this time, Chloe turns out to be really Lois.. just kidding.. don't hurt me ..

But overall the Season is at its peak, I didn't get to see if they showed next week's episode Bulletproof, but believe it to be another great one..

[Tornado]

Poster for Season 8!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/2009poster.jpg

I really do like the usage of color on Clark.

[sshuttari]

why are they coming out for posters now when season 8 started back in September.

Anyway I don't think you can kill off Chloe at this point. She has become a very popular character. I don't know what they should do with her at the end but killing her off would be very disappointing.

[RingWraith2k4]

Last night's episode was great. The Legion dropping references was awesome. Hopefully, they'll make another appearance in future episodes.
But I do hope to see Clark and Lois develop their relationship more in the upcoming episodes.
And will we "see" more Doomsday, or will he be always in dark shadows? Not that I don't mind that they keep Doomsday in dark scenes, (most likely to hide how "rubber costumey" it might look) but I'm curious if we'll see Doomsday more clearly.

[RingWraith2k4]

[QUOTE=Tornado;2537907]The first of the official Season 8 promo shots:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/edseason8.jpg



I think Erica Durance looks absolutely more HOT this season than ever before.

[Tornado]

Last night's episode was great. The Legion dropping references was awesome. Hopefully, they'll make another appearance in future episodes.
But I do hope to see Clark and Lois develop their relationship more in the upcoming episodes.
And will we "see" more Doomsday, or will he be always in dark shadows? Not that I don't mind that they keep Doomsday in dark scenes, (most likely to hide how "rubber costumey" it might look) but I'm curious if we'll see Doomsday more clearly.

At the end of the episode, Rokk did warn Clark about being careful in the coming days. I'd love to see the Legion come back in the season finale (assuming there is a Season 9; they have no business being in the series finale unless they come back to witness Clark don the tights for the first time or something) to help Clark fight Doomsday. The Legion would, of course, have to be knocked out early on to leave Clark handle him on his own, but I wouldn't object to a return from them.

[RingWraith2k4]

I'm just wondering when will Clark finally start to explore his flight ability.

[JheyDC]

Maybe in Turbulence?

[Tornado]

I'm skeptical of that. I think it'll be this season at some point, but probably not until the season finale.

[Tornado]

I just finished watching Legion for the third time. It seemed like I got chills over, and over, and over again. This episode is a prime example of the show at its absolute finest. In fact... I would maybe go so far as to say this may be the best episode of the series. Top three easy anyway.

I can't help shake the thought that this show is going to be getting pretty damn dark before the season is over. When Rokk tells Clark, "Kal.... be careful in the days ahead," it's just.... man, I get the feeling the second half of this season is going to get pretty crazy assuming there is a Season 9 (if Season 8 is it, I could see them abandoning some things to wrap others up instead). I mean, they made it pretty clear that Rokk is a Superman historian of sorts, and they sure as hell made it sound like Rokk knows what's coming up in Clark's life (I assume he's referring to a big showdown between him and Doomsday).

I just want to wake up tomorrow with a copy of the Season 8 DVD sitting on my shelf. That'd be swell. :)

[RingWraith2k4]

I just finished watching Legion for the third time. It seemed like I got chills over, and over, and over again. This episode is a prime example of the show at its absolute finest. In fact... I would maybe go so far as to say this may be the best episode of the series. Top three easy anyway.

I can't help shake the thought that this show is going to be getting pretty damn dark before the season is over. When Rokk tells Clark, "Kal.... be careful in the days ahead," it's just.... man, I get the feeling the second half of this season is going to get pretty crazy assuming there is a Season 9 (if Season 8 is it, I could see them abandoning some things to wrap others up instead). I mean, they made it pretty clear that Rokk is a Superman historian of sorts, and they sure as hell made it sound like Rokk knows what's coming up in Clark's life (I assume he's referring to a big showdown between him and Doomsday).

I just want to wake up tomorrow with a copy of the Season 8 DVD sitting on my shelf. That'd be swell. :)

If only we had these guys(the writers) that took over the show back in season 7 or hell, even back in season 6!!! Clark would've probably been flying by now. Or maybe he into Lois a lot earlier.
Sigh! Oh well, I guess better late than never.

[Tornado]

I think Season 7 would have been a lot better (different anyway, at the very least) under the control of the current show runners, but I'm not so sure I want Clark flying around just yet if there is going to be a Season 9. Ideally (for me), they'd have him fly in this year's season finale, and then he's regularly flying in the final season.

As for Clark and Lois, eh... I love the chemistry between the two, but I'm not so sure they should be in a relationship on the show.

[Neverending]

I'm fairly convinced she's going to die now; probably not in this season, but most likely in the series finale or one of the episodes leading up to it.

Or maybe they change her name like one of the Legion people suggested.

[RingWraith2k4]

I think Season 7 would have been a lot better (different anyway, at the very least) under the control of the current show runners, but I'm not so sure I want Clark flying around just yet if there is going to be a Season 9. Ideally (for me), they'd have him fly in this year's season finale, and then he's regularly flying in the final season.

As for Clark and Lois, eh... I love the chemistry between the two, but I'm not so sure they should be in a relationship on the show.


I definitely wouldn't be surprised if they have Clark on the season finale. But I'm amazed that they haven't comfirmed whether or not there will be a season 9.
My gut feeling is there will be another season and they'll probably call it "The Final Season". But I guess we'll see.

[bbf2]

I didn't think this episode was all that great, mainly because I thought the people playing the Legion were all really bad actors, especially the girl. But it was probably my fault because I was only underwhelmed because I'm not familiar at all with these characters so I had no idea what they were supposed to be like. I'm sure if I was familiar with the Legion I would have been psyched to see them and the Persuader onscreen. After reading their bios on wikipedia I appreciated what the episode did a lot more.

But this episode further confirmed something for me (that I already knew): This show is much, much better without Lana. The scenes where the girl legion member kept telling Lana that she was such an amazing person who will change history forever were HORRIBLE. I could barely watch them.

It's not just the fact that Kreuk is a bad actress (although that doesn't help, if she had some charisma and wasn't totally flat it might be tolerable) its the fact that everyone always talks about how amazing and incredible and perfect she is even after she's done some terrible things. Oh, and every character falls in love with her, to the point where the great Lex vs. Clark antagonism they've been setting up for five seasons falls apart because it just dissolves into them fighting over a girl. I was just thinking to myself how much better this season was without her.
Had Lana still been here this season, I'm sure Davis would have fallen in love with her instead of Chloe and I would have been completely disgusted and saying "Why the hell does every single character and iconic villain have to fall in love with Lana? Every freak of the week, then Lex Luthor is ruined because he falls in love with her, then General Zod, then Bizarro, and now DOOMSDAY is in love with her too? That's probably the only reason they gave him a human form!"
But since Davis fell in love with Chloe...well, it was actually one of the best story lines they've ever done! Largely because Mack is a good actress and you can see why she would be so alluring (even though physically she isn't at Kreuk's level) and she had great chemistry with the guy who played Davis,(because they're both really good actors) as opposed to Kreuk who just sits there flat as people spout endless praise at her and her perfection.

And then in this episode they brought back all that crap by having so many scenes where the girl Legionnaire sits there talking about how perfect and amazing Lana is and how she's going to change history and agggghhhhh. Oh well, Lana will be leaving again soon.

[Tornado]

I'm actually more attracted to Allison than I ever have been to Kristin; I never really bought Clark being so physically attracted to her (as it's not all psychological as we saw in Season 4's Blank; Clark lost all of his memories, but as soon as he saw Lana his heat vision went off). She's pretty, but he's around much better looking women all the time in my opinion - Lois and Chloe. And personally, I despise Lana's mentality. She's such a *****.

And I agree with you, the scenes promoting Lana's "destiny" were a little hard to handle. In the comics, she marries Pete and eventually becomes the First Lady, but I don't remember her doing anything as grand as what Imra was referring to. Whatever it is, I don't want to see it on the show.

In interviews, Kristin always talks about how the only way she would come back to do more episodes is if her character has a good story and has more to do. I think part of this "destiny building" is a result of that; the show runners want Kristin to feel wanted, so they give her this goofy subplot of Lana apparently doing more than she should be.

[unity768]

I've always found Chloe more attractive than Lana. More likable as a person as well.

[RingWraith2k4]

When I first started watching this show, I always thought Lana was hot, (especially in the first couple of seasons) and I thought Chloe was just cute.
But Chloe clearly is the more likeable one from the start.
Anyhoo, these days, Kristin is too thin for my taste. I mean, she was fine early on.

It doesn't matter to me now, since Lois is my favorite by far. Erica Durance should be taking all of Kristin's screen time from this point on.

[hard2hold]

My stupid Tivo failed to record Legion. Any of you know where I can watch online for free?

[R-Type]

Legally no where but iTunes paid download and Amazon Unbox (here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PS7JH8/ref=sr_1_34?ie=UTF8&s=digital-video&qid=1232388749&sr=1-34) the reason is that Smallville gets really good repeat ratings on CW and those airings are like pure profit for them.

[Tornado]

From K-Site:

The title of the 18th episode is ETERNAL.

It's supposed to focus on the origins of Davis. I only tagged it because with how often I jump on other people, I'd feel like a hypocrite if I didn't tag my own stuff. It's not spoiler-ish at all though. It's very basic.

BUT, I have to wonder if this is the beginning of the end of the series or just another episode leading in to the finale? Because we haven't gotten any new information on the final five episodes until now, and that was largely speculated at being a result of the producers not knowing if they would need to wrap up the series with those final five, or if they could continue finishing this season's plots at their own pace.

[Alien]

You hate spoilers yet you go to K-Site?

[Tornado]

Always with the questioning...

[JheyDC]

Nice Avy Tornado, also liked the one before with Kal-El

[Neverending]

But this episode further confirmed something for me (that I already knew): This show is much, much better without Lana. The scenes where the girl legion member kept telling Lana that she was such an amazing person who will change history forever were HORRIBLE. I could barely watch them.

Same here, man. Same here. However...the episode was strong enough that those scenes didn't ruin the 10/10 rating. It's like saying Citizen Kane was ruined by the fact that no one actually heard him say "Rosebud." Yes, it's a major flaw but everything else was excellent.

When I first started watching this show, I always thought Lana was hot, (especially in the first couple of seasons) and I thought Chloe was just cute.

Those were (and are) my opinion as well. However...I'm old enough that I'm starting to prefer personality over looks. Lana may be hotter but she's so annoying that I definitely prefer Chloe.

[Tornado]

Nice Avy Tornado, also liked the one before with Kal-El

Thanks, I like it too. I may even keep it for a while... that is until Bulletproof airs and I find a frame I like more. ;)

Here's the official description for 814 - REQUIEM:

SMALLVILLE BRINGS IN ANOTHER DC VILLAIN — An explosion at LuthorCorp kills all the Board members and injures Oliver (Justin Hartley), who was there to announce the merger of his company with LutherCorp. Oliver believes that Lex is responsible for the blast, but Clark (Tom Welling) and Lana (Kristin Kreuk) learn that the bomber is Winslow Schott (guest star Chris Gauthier), a toymaker and former Queen Industries employee with a grudge against Oliver. Michael Rohl directed the episode written by Holly Henderson & Don Whitehead (#3T7464).

Honestly, the title doesn't match the description. Maybe I'll get my wish and Lana will die!

[Alien]

Always with the questioning...
I was told way back when I was in school that questioning everything made people smarter.



Thanks, I like it too. I may even keep it for a while... that is until Bulletproof airs and I find a frame I like more. ;)

Here's the official description for 814 - REQUIEM:

SMALLVILLE BRINGS IN ANOTHER DC VILLAIN — An explosion at LuthorCorp kills all the Board members and injures Oliver (Justin Hartley), who was there to announce the merger of his company with LutherCorp. Oliver believes that Lex is responsible for the blast, but Clark (Tom Welling) and Lana (Kristin Kreuk) learn that the bomber is Winslow Schott (guest star Chris Gauthier), a toymaker and former Queen Industries employee with a grudge against Oliver. Michael Rohl directed the episode written by Holly Henderson & Don Whitehead (#3T7464).

Honestly, the title doesn't match the description. Maybe I'll get my wish and Lana will die!
I'm not even sure what Requiem means, all I know is that Hollywood (TV Hollywood) has taken a shining to it in the last few years coz it's poped up in a few episode titles.

[unity768]

I dug into my Smallville archive and watched Red from Season Two. Awesome stuff.

[RingWraith2k4]

I dug into my Smallville archive and watched Red from Season Two. Awesome stuff.

That's one of my all-time favorite episodes from the early seasons. It's always fun to see Clark act all "evil" once in a while.

[R-Type]

I'm not even sure what Requiem means, all I know is that Hollywood (TV Hollywood) has taken a shining to it in the last few years coz it's poped up in a few episode titles.
It is a song that is performed in memory of the dead. This is Lana's final episode too!!

[Tornado]

I dug into my Smallville archive and watched Red from Season Two. Awesome stuff.

Now watch it again with the Tom Welling/Michael Rosenbaum/Kristin Kreuk/Greg Beeman commentary on. Hilarious. I really hope Welling does a couple of commentaries for Season 8, particularly on Identity and throw in Erica Durance with him on Committed.

[RingWraith2k4]

Now watch it again with the Tom Welling/Michael Rosenbaum/Kristin Kreuk/Greg Beeman commentary on. Hilarious. I really hope Welling does a couple of commentaries for Season 8, particularly on Identity and throw in Erica Durance with him on Committed.

I remember the commentaries, and they are awesome. In fact, I wished there were more commentaries for a lot of the episodes of the series.

[JheyDC]

Bulletproof is another episode I can't wait to watch...I've been excited since they gave the episode title away and CW's discription on Kyptonsite...

[JheyDC]

More Spoilers released yesterday for episode Power by Kryptonsite...

UPDATED 1/20/09: The new images released by The CW reveal that there will be more kissing between Clark and Lana in this episode.

Sorry guys, they do end up together

They also have a few pictures up for this episode. Looks really good.

Especially Chloe as Director

[Darth Maul]

blarg thats lame

[Tornado]

Yeah, it's stupid that they're going to kiss as it seemed like the show was moving away from that. But, the bit about them ending up together, that was just added by Jhey and isn't going to happen. ;)

[JheyDC]

I hope it doesn't...I always assume the worst of situations ;)

[Darth Maul]

stop messing with my mind jheyDC! its impossiable its not true! :P

[Tornado]

I hope it doesn't...I always assume the worst of situations ;)

I wouldn't worry about it. ;)

I'm just glad PS3 seem to have abandoned their pre-Season 8 plans of making Clark and Tess a couple.

[JheyDC]

You and me both!

[bbf2]

I wouldn't worry about it. ;)

I'm just glad PS3 seem to have abandoned their pre-Season 8 plans of making Clark and Tess a couple.

Is Tess even on the show anymore? I don't remember her doing anything since she slept with Oliver.

[Tornado]

I'm fairly sure she's in tonight's episode, but yeah we haven't seen her since Bloodline (the 8th episode of the season, tonight's is the 12th).

[JheyDC]

12 hours to go... woot!!!

[Tornado]

Tsk tsk, only 8 hours and 40 minutes here. ;)

[JheyDC]

11 hours and 30 minutes here now :)

[Tornado]

Six hours and 31 minutes!

[JheyDC]

Nine hours and 20 minutes here...

[Alien]

The whole count down is a lame idea.

[JheyDC]

Way to burst the bubble Alien!

[Alien]

You're welcome. I've not looked it up yet, what is this weeks episode about?

[JheyDC]

Another one I'm looking forward to;

Spoiler from Kryptonsite.com

The CW's Official Description (Added 12/20/08): JOHN JONES IS SHOT — Clark (Tom Welling) discovers John Jones (guest star Phil Morris) was shot while working as a police officer, so Clark dons the uniform and goes undercover to find the culprit. Meanwhile, Lana (Kristin Kreuk) confronts Tess (Cassidy Freeman) and tells her Lex isn’t the man she thinks he is. Lana’s shocking news forces Tess to reevaluate her position as the head of Luthorcorp

[Tornado]

The whole count down is a lame idea.

Then don't partake, simple as that.

[JheyDC]

Eight hours and twelve minutes

[JheyDC]

Five hours and twenty two minutes here...

Ah...I can't wait any longer!!!!!!!!

[Tornado]

90 minutes!

Truth be told, I'm always looking forward to new "Smallville," but this particular episode doesn't interest me as much as some coming later in the season like Hex (being directed by Tom Welling), featuring the introduction of Zatanna, for example.

[JheyDC]

With the Season doing really well, I can't help but be excited for the next one to come. I really hope they finish up with the paperwork so that I can look forward to the 9th Season...

[Tornado]

Ha, the guy who plays Gaeta on BSG is playing a doctor in this episode. He must be the fifth or sixth BSG alum to guest star on "Smallville."

[Tornado]

Christ, being a Criminal Justice major do you guys have any idea how lengthy of a process it is to go from filling out an application to actually getting a job in police work? I know Clark is apparently a transfer from another precinct, but the police chief/lieutenant/captain/etc. at his current precinct would have done a little research into his background.

Ugh. Still a good episode so far, but that's just... not... good.

EDIT - That was a really dumb plan on the part of the police officers - they planted the gun that shot Jones in the trunk of a locked car? So, if Clark didn't have X-ray vision and super strength, how did they plan on framing him? Just walking around someone's house isn't an arrestable offense.

[Angelixx]

WHAT THE ****! I AM SO ****ING SICK OF THIS LANA AND CLARK CRAP! that was the perfect moment for Clark to go see lana and be all like "im over you" and then do a little hint hint that his person who makes it all worth it now is Lois. that kinda just ruined the episode for me

EDIT: it occurred to me that spoilers are unnecessary now :)

[Tornado]

I thought this episode was a bit weak. What excited me the most were the new settings, like Danny's home. :funny: Like Angelixx said, the reunion of Clark and Lana is just ridiculous. This was a serious drop from the quality of the last 7 episodes (Committed through Legion), and hopefully they return to their Season 8 form next week.

[RingWraith2k4]

Let's all be glad that Kristin Kreuk is not a regular cast member anymore.

Not sure how many episodes Lana will appear, but I'm gonna assume one or two more and that's it. (I HOPE!)

Damn it, I want more Lois Lane interaction with Clark.

[Tornado]

Kristin was brought back for five episodes total this season; she's been in three so far (including tonight's), and has two more to go before she's presumably done for the series.

[RingWraith2k4]

Kristin was brought back for five episodes total this season; she's been in three so far (including tonight's), and has two more to go before she's presumably done for the series.

So what's your prediction of Lana's fate: She leaves; she dies; or that another planet needs her so she has to go and saves them (then dies!) :rolleyes:

[Tornado]

I don't think they'd kill her off, after all - she is in most versions of the canon. My guesses are that sometime between now and the end of her final episode, they'll decide they're not meant to be together and she'll leave.

I hope that's what happens anyway. By killing her off, Clark wouldn't be given the choice to move on from her. It's likely we'll see a Clark/Lois pairing at some point (if there is a Season 9), but if Lana is dead I would always feel like Clark sees Lois as his second choice. If Clark and Lana agree to mutually move on, then we could assume Clark will have gotten over her by the time he and Lois are together.

[RingWraith2k4]

I don't think they'd kill her off, after all - she is in most versions of the canon. My guesses are that sometime between now and the end of her final episode, they'll decide they're not meant to be together and she'll leave.

I hope that's what happens anyway. By killing her off, Clark wouldn't be given the choice to move on from her. It's likely we'll see a Clark/Lois pairing at some point (if there is a Season 9), but if Lana is dead I would always feel like Clark sees Lois as his second choice. If Clark and Lana agree to mutually move on, then we could assume Clark will have gotten over her by the time he and Lois are together.

You know what, you're right! I would much rather have Clark FINALLY (and I mean FINALLY!) get over Lana once and for all. But we'll see.

[Tornado]

Yeah.

I'm just sad that there are only two more episodes remaining before the next break. Power airs next week and Requiem the week after, but then the show is gone until March as far as I know.

[unity768]

This episode was OK, up until that last scene. Green Arrow/Clark Kent disagreements were nice but found Lana and Tess a bit too distracting and uninteresting. Chloe was never around, Olsen is absent, Martian Manhunter just laid on a hospital bed for an hour, where the hell is Lois!? A serious drop in quality. I was gonna give this a pass but those last five minutes reminded me of Al/Miles' unjustifiable love for the Clark/Lana relationship, something I thought I'd never have to see LIKE THAT ever again.

Smallville Season 8
Odyssey (7/10)
Plastique (8/10)
Toxic (5/10)
Instinct (7/10)
Committed (6/10)
Prey (9/10)
Identity (10/10)
Bloodline (8/10)
Abyss (10/10)
Bride (10/10)
Legion (9/10)
Bulletproof (5/10)

[Tornado]

Odyssey - A-
Plastique - B
Toxic - C-
Instinct - C+
Committed - A-
Prey - A
Identity - A+
Bloodline - A-
Abyss - A
Bride - A-
Legion - A+
Bulletproof - C

Yeah, that's probably about right. Already more A's than I gave to a few seasons.

[unity768]

Odyssey - B
Plastique - B+
Toxic - C
Instinct - B
Committed - C+
Prey - A-
Identity - A
Bloodline - B+
Abyss - A
Bride - A
Legion - A-
Bulletproof - C

some ppl got problems with the numbers- I'll prob do the letter grades from now on, makes everything more understandable. how's next weeks episode lookin?

[Darth Maul]

This was a fun episode, i dug the comic references with the martian hanging in Johns car and the pictures of lexs krypto suit.

[Tolkien]

What about what we want? Seriously Clark, what about what we want? What WE want is for you to put your dick back in your pants and stop crying over Lana Lang already. I mean, what the f**k is wrong with you Clark? You disgust me!!! I'm sorry but that ending bit ruined the entire episode for me. And that's not saying much seeing as how the entire episode was boring at best.

[JheyDC]

Well, the episode wasn't that bad compared to other seasons worst..It was a nice scene taking us to Metropolis's street. Liked the part where Tess and Lana were together at the Isis Foundation and Lana reveals to Tess that Lex is watching through her eyes. Way to keep Lex alive! I think that bit was awesome, it's so like Lex to do something like that. I guess we know that Lana is working with someone secretly..who could this be??? I would have to agree with Tornado saying that the whole transfer thing was ridiculous. I was like ok, not even a day goes by and he's a cop..but I let it slide..

The intro to the episode was pretty neat, kind of like being at the movies you know..The Chloe and Clark scene was nice. Chloe protecting her cousin over Lana from being heartbroken. The Oliver and Clark clash was okay, don't know why they have to be upset at each other. John at the Hospital with Clark and Oliver all three learn a lesson.

I thought that this episode was the filler of the week. Major scene would have to be the Lana and Tess thing.

Overall I give Bulletproof a B

[Darth Maul]

Tess was super hot last night

[JheyDC]

With her red and black work out outfit! :)

[Neverending]

Bulletproof was easily the weakest episode of the season. Well, anyway, the best news about Smallville this week was that Zantana is being played by this chick:

http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10085/090121serindaswan2.jpg

Can you say, hello nurse? ;)

[Tornado]

Yeah, she's definitely a looker. I'm more curious to see what they do with the character though; I'm fairly unfamiliar with the character, so it probably won't take much to impress me. I'm still a big fan of the show's interpretation of Black Canary, despite there apparently being huge differences between the show's version and the traditional version.

[JheyDC]

Nice pic! We will see...

[Dan's_Gurl]

wtf was that last night? i thought we were supposed to be getting closer to clark and lois this season. Lana can go back to Thailand or wherever. That kiss was just uncalled for.

i did like the Tess finding out how Lex has been watching her, but aside from that, i wasn't very interested.

[Tolkien]

Clark is a douche. A dirty, dirty douche. And I wash my hands of his so-called affections.

[Tornado]

Clark isn't a "douche," he just has a hard time seeing what's right in front of him sometimes. ;)

[Alien]

Lana is his childhood sweet heart who he's loved for years. He was just about to move on but hadn't quite made it yet and now he just remembers how much he loved her. Soon she'll die or move on and he can get back on with his life.

[sshuttari]

I don't think this week's episode is as bad as everyone is making it out to be. I mean yeah, the whole Lana thing is back and she's not even in the credits but I think she'll be only be around for another few episodes and out of the show again until Louis comes back or something.

I really do like a lot of the Green Arrow/Clark discussions and scenes. Some of the Metropolis cop stuff was very cool, especially too know some of them are corrupt and Clark had to stop them was done very well.

Preview for next week's looks really cool.

[Tornado]

As I said before, Kristin Kreuk only has two more episodes until she's done for the season (and maybe the series). Erica Durance is scheduled to come back in the 15th episode (Infamous).

[unity768]

thank god- I wish they left Lana in Paris.

[Darth Maul]

poor lana, everyone hating her and what not heh.

[Danny Rand]

it was a very poor episode with lousy acting from Lana(as usual) and Mercy

even the *****fest between Ollis and Clark was lame

[unity768]

poor lana, everyone hating her and what not heh.

She was fine the first three seasons. After that, it went all downhill. The writers really tore the character apart.

[RingWraith2k4]

I think most people just got really tired of the Lana character taking SOOOO much of the screen time since the first series.
I mean she usually got as much screen time as Clark, and sometimes more than him.

And as much as we all wanted Clark to develop into the hero we want him to be, he was simply "held back" by his constant fawning over Lana.

Imagine how good it really it could've been if Clark, Lex, and even Lois took at least 50% of Lana's total screentime in the series.

[Tornado]

I didn't mind Lana up through Season 5 or so. It wasn't until then that Clark was really given a chance to be with her, and I assumed that once they had their relationship behind them he would be able to move on and they would just remain friends until she inevitably left the series.

But that didn't happen, and he ended up never really falling out of love with her, and here we are three years later. :(

[WuTical]

Lana needs to die

[unity768]

She's been a witch, vampire, martial artist, super-powered, wife of lex luthor, stalked 1,000 times, brain dead, am i missing anything lol.

[Tolkien]

... a b***h.

[RingWraith2k4]

She's been a witch, vampire, martial artist, super-powered, wife of lex luthor, stalked 1,000 times, brain dead, am i missing anything lol.

LMAO!!!

You pretty much covered everything she's done. But you forgot "Junkie".

Remember that episode she kept taking that drug to "die" to see her parents and then the drug to come "back to life". Clark and Lex also "died" to see their respective parents as well. I think it was on Season 5.

[Tornado]

Yeah, Void. I wasn't a big fan of that episode; the only good thing to come out of it was the final scene between Clark and Jonathan.

[JheyDC]

I don't think this week's episode is as bad as everyone is making it out to be. I mean yeah, the whole Lana thing is back and she's not even in the credits but I think she'll be only be around for another few episodes and out of the show again until Louis comes back or something.

I didn't think it was bad per my post the day after the episode...it was pretty decent..filler of the week..Like I said, the main reason they aired this was because of the scene with Tess and Lana..that's the most important scene in Bulletproof in my opinion...

I really do like a lot of the Green Arrow/Clark discussions and scenes. Some of the Metropolis cop stuff was very cool, especially too know some of them are corrupt and Clark had to stop them was done very well.

Preview for next week's looks really cool.

Yeah, same here...it was nice to see another scene other than the Daily Planet and Smallville for a change...

[Alien]

I've heard some good stuff about the up coming episode Hex directed by Tom Welling. Zatanna will be in it, if you don't know her here is what she looks like in the comics.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Zatanna-hughes.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Zatanna-hughes.png
She is going to be played by Serinda Swan. Google her, she's well hot!

[JheyDC]

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff335/MLANGIT/Zatana.jpg

Her Image on Kryptonsite.com

Should be interesting..Tom Welling does pretty well as a director...

[bbf2]

I thought Clark just showing up in a police uniform and saying he was "from another district" and being allowed to do police work was ridiculous. I thought there's no way they wouldn't investigate the credentials of a police officer who randomly showed up and said he was from another district and then started to work.

Then I saw this:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/01/14-year-old-boy-impersonates-chicago-cop.html

Maybe its not so far fetched.

[Tornado]

I'm not exactly sure if I should tag this or not. It's definitely spoilerish in the sense that it refers to coming events, but it's very vague and doesn't actually reveal anything about said events. I'll tag it anyway (from K-Site, as always):

Something really exciting should be coming somewhere between episodes #19 and #21. All we know is that it will be a big deal for the show's longtime fans, and as far as we know, sadly, it's not "the return of Lex Luthor" but still something just as cool.

It's gotta be flight. At the beginning of the season, the producers hinted at breaking one of their two rules: no flights, no tights. And there's no way they'll put Clark in the suit before the series finale.

[Tornado]

Episode 819 has a title: STILETTO.

There are spoilers up at K-Site, but I didn't read any of them. Hopefully the title makes more sense in context.

[JheyDC]

Yeah, they have a bunch of spoilers up right now...wow...

[Alien]

The name is something to do with a Knife so I'm going to guess some one gets stabbed?

[Tornado]

Or it's the heel of a woman's shoe; that's what I first thought of.

[Dan's_Gurl]

^that's what i thought of. i thought it could be like that beauty pageant episode last year.

[Alien]

I guess my dyslexia strikes again. I wikied the word n found knifes.

[R-Type]

no it is also a knife but is used more to refer to a woman's shoe which has a sharp heel.

kryptonsite says Stiletto is actually Lois' fake superhero name for herself, in her plan to find out the Red and Blue Blur's identity!
http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

[Tornado]

It's hard to believe that tomorrow night might be the second to last time we ever see Lana again on the show...

Not that that's a bad thing. ;)

[JheyDC]

Nice, another episode...sweet!

[Neverending]

It's hard to believe that tomorrow night might be the second to last time we ever see Lana again on the show...

It's a miracle!

[JheyDC]

It's hard to believe that tomorrow night might be the second to last time we ever see Lana again on the show...

Not that that's a bad thing. ;)

I was thinking about that yesterday...wow, no one to hate on the show anymore..I think I'll probably miss her...a bit... maybe :)

[Tornado]

I was thinking about that yesterday...wow, no one to hate on the show anymore..I think I'll probably miss her...a bit... maybe :)

I'm not really a big fan of Tess, so I guess she'll take over for the title of "My Least Favorite Character."

6 hours and 35 minutes!

[JheyDC]

Nine and a half hours to go...

[unity768]

about an hour to go, hopefully this episode is an improvement on the last one aired. Horray for the 2nd to last episode for Lana!!

[Tornado]

Well...

This may be the most ridiculous story line of the series, and that's really saying something.

[Tornado]

I don't know about you guys, but I can always spot the first-time directors on the show (first-time in the sense of "Smallville" first-timers, not necessarily first-time directors in general) and this case is no different. I'm just a little surprised Allison Mack's style is so in-your-face. It's fun, exciting, and different... but even so, I'm surprised. I loved that tracking shot following the van; that's not something you see on the show too often. And the final shot of the episode (despite how terrible the context was - Clark and Lana kissing... again) was great.

Too bad the rest of the episode was.... absolutely horrible. Good lord, how I do hate Lana. She just seems like the producers' pet at this point; even though she has absolutely no business being around, they can't help but bring her back and give her something ridiculous to do. I was pumped at the beginning when Clark said that kissing Lana was a mistake and showed genuine interest in never seeing her again, but it went downhill from there.

Boy, you know... that might have been the worst episode of the series. There have definitely been some losers, but even those are sometimes kinda fun. Season 7's Fierce for instance, is regularly named as one of the worst episodes of the series, and I don't really disagree with that. But I enjoy it and get a kick out of it.

Power, on the other hand, is an episode I will probably skip over when I re-watch Season 8 on DVD. Next week looks interesting though. It's kinda odd we're actually going to see Lex's face, but I still have faith (despite the lousiness of tonight's episode and last week's) that they can make a great episode with Lana at the center (as next week's seems to be).

F

Next week is her final episode; I tell ya, if she leaves the show with superpowers, I'm going to be pretty pissed off. As much as I'd like her to die, even just leaving town as a normal person would be OK. But if she bails with that suit... they're going to have to have an epic last eight episodes to make up for the tame middle section of this season.

[RingWraith2k4]

Worst....episode......of season 8!!!! Ugh!!! Easily in the top 3 of "worst" episodes of the series.

[RingWraith2k4]

I'm sorry, but that whole episode was just brutal to watch. Never have I ever felt for an episode to "hurry up and end" until now.
I mean, what's with the producers/writers (past and present) obsession of making Lana Lang "more" than she ever was supposed to be???

[Tornado]

I just... I mean, what happened? The majority of the first 11 episodes were terrific (the only weak points being Toxic and Instinct... and even that one was kinda fun), but the past two have just been awful. I don't get it. It can't just be Lana's return, she was on the show for the past 7 years. It's not like every episode prominently featuring her before this season was bad or anything.

I almost have to wonder if Kristin Kreuk signed a deal to return for Season 8 when Gough and Millar were still in charge. Maybe the current show runners didn't have a way out of it, and didn't really know what to do with the character upon her return.

Either way, only one more episode before the month-long break. Then we'll come back with Lois, and the show will (hopefully) return to the amazing form demonstrated in the first half of the season.

[sgr818]

What the &*%$ were they thinking? Lana with superpowers - Come on. This is a prequel. The writers aren't supposed to create absurd mythologies for existing DC characters.

[Tornado]

I'm sorry, but that whole episode was just brutal to watch. Never have I ever felt for an episode to "hurry up and end" until now.
I mean, what's with the producers/writers (past and present) obsession of making Lana Lang "more" than she ever was supposed to be???

Absolutely! I kept looking at the clock thinking, "Geez, another 20 minutes?" The worst part is that I'm entirely sure who to blame. I thought Allison did a pretty decent job with the directing, and the acting was all pretty solid (Welling seemed a bit too... forceful for Clark though, IMO)... the writing I guess, I don't know.

[Tornado]

What the &*%$ were they thinking? Lana with superpowers - Come on. This is a prequel. The writers aren't supposed to create absurd mythologies for existing DC characters.

Right, but the problem with that is that it's not really a prequel anymore. It's still a prequel in the sense that Clark isn't flying and donning the tights yet, but everybody else is more or less up to speed with most modern interpretations of the characters - especially Lex. I still can't get over them creating Lex's "supersuit" in this show.

[Tolkien]

It doesn't start for another three hours, and already I'm wanting it to finish, lol.

[Tornado]

Yeah, JHey is still waiting too.

Have fun guys! ;)

[unity768]

Wow...how poor was that? Lana had more screen time than Clark. This can all be redeemed if they kill Lana next episode, and this time for good!!!! One of the series' worst. Ridiculous can't describe this.

Odyssey - B
Plastique - B+
Toxic - C
Instinct - B
Committed - C+
Prey - A-
Identity - A
Bloodline - B+
Abyss - A
Bride - A
Legion - A-
Bulletproof - C
Power - F

[RingWraith2k4]

Right, but the problem with that is that it's not really a prequel anymore. It's still a prequel in the sense that Clark isn't flying and donning the tights yet, but everybody else is more or less up to speed with most modern interpretations of the characters - especially Lex. I still can't get over them creating Lex's "supersuit" in this show.

As far as the suit goes. I think if they had brought that when Rosenbaum was still around it probably would've been awesome.

Actually, he would've awesome if he stuck around for another season. Especially the way things have been in the first half of season 8. sigh!

[Angelixx]

the new episode didn't friggen play for me! I GOT A REPEAT. WHAT THE HELL!?!??! :( :(

[unity768]

I think this might be on par with Static, the season six episode centered around Lana and Lex finding their true love....ROFL.

[Danny Rand]

I'm not really a big fan of Tess, so I guess she'll take over for the title of "My Least Favorite Character."

6 hours and 35 minutes!

yeah they totally ****ed up Mercy who is an awesome character

also did Lana go all Insect Girl yet?

[Spirited Away]

I definitely agree that the episode is terrible. Lana is incredibly lame, and that fact she has powers is lame-ass too. But the preview for next week's episode looks great.

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[Angelixx]

can someone give me a quick play by play of what happened? im too anxious to wait to download it tomorrow! pleaaseee?

[Tornado]

yeah they totally ****ed up Mercy who is an awesome character

also did Lana go all Insect Girl yet?

Tess is an "original" character for the show. She's based on Mercy Graves and Miss Teschmacher.

So, you may not like Tess either, but they didn't "**** her up." ;)

[RingWraith2k4]

Where's Lois??? : (

[Tornado]

With Jimmy in... Star City? Edge City? One of those two.

She'll be in the first episode back after the break - Infamous.

[sshuttari]

I need the storyline with Lana to hurry up and finish.

I mean it's bad enough we have to wait to see doomsday again, it's even worst to see Lana get her time in to the show so she can move on. It's like were back to season 7 or something.

Next week it's Lana's last episode I don't want to say they should kill her off... but she really needs to move on from Smallville and go to Brazil or something.

Sigh...

[Spirited Away]

I'm shocked about Clark and Lana having sex in the next episode. How can he forget about Lois so quickly? Just because he's finally able to have superpowered sex with Lana doesn't mean he should!

[Tornado]

Really?!

Christ.

And here I was thinking Season 8 was better than that, PS3 were better than that... but they're just falling into the same **** that plagued Seasons 5-7. Let me guess - Lana will somehow be infected with Kryptonite in the upcoming episode, and that is what will ultimately keep them apart forever.

Clark better fly this season, because I don't know if much else can save it. I shouldn't be too surprised though; just about every season starts off really strong, gets pretty goofy in the middle, and then picks up the pace heading into the finale.

But Clark actually having sex with Lana just steps all over any progress made with the Clark/Lois pairing this season.

Lois needs to come back, now!

[EnderDeschain]

Yeah, this episode really sucked. I didn't know next week's was gonna be Lana's last episode, that's cool 'cuz damn did she ever junk up the show this week. The whole Lana return has been handled well up 'til now. This was just a god-awful episode. I didn't think last week's was too bad, definitely a filler and definitely not on par with the rest of the season before it, but tolerable. Tonight's, however, was the kind of suck that sucks. I concur with Tornado's "what happened?" I was wondering that myself.

Next week's being Lana's last is encouraging. I was thinking that maybe Doomsday would show back up and Clark and Lana would both try to stop him and Doomsday would annihilate her face before the end of the season, but if next week is her last then I guess that's not gonna happen. In the previews when it showed Lex in the chair with the mask and the Saw voice I thought it was a little cheeseball-lookin. I dug how they'd kept Lex WAY behind the scenes, only actually showing him in that one little tease at the end of that one episode. Actually, as bad as tonight's was, I did like the way they handled Lex's involvement in it all, as well as the thing with Tess being his eyes and ears last week. That was all perfectly Lex, precisely the kind of puppet-master stuff I was hoping they'd do with him in his absence, not going too far with it. Next week's looks like it'll do just that, go too far. Lex hiding in some lab somewhere or something, setting up traps or diabolical schemes and talking to Clark through a monitor feels very Superfriends Saturday morning. All he needs is a cat on the arm of his chair to pet while he outlines his dastardly deeds to Our Hero.

All of this is, of course, premature criticism. It might turn out to be kick-ass. But tonight's episode left a sour aftertaste and as a result I'm imagining the worst. I hope I'm wrong, I hope it's awesome.

[Darth Maul]

This episode was super lame.... I hope lana falls into a black hole and disappears forever.


As soon as that suit **** happened and lana was like oo clark look now i can be super girl and we will have super sex in the next episode. Blah that just made be go blarg. I was like BS.

Like Obama said . .. we need change! o and Clark flying!

[Tolkien]

I cried. Really, I did. But not in that oh my god, what an amazing heartwarming episode kind of way, but instead in a oh my god, that was downright terrible and heartbreaking kind of way. Seriously, that was a horrible, horrible episode. First I get a douche moment from Clark in the last episode where he loses my respect by kissing Lana, now I get a double-douche moment from the writers for not only keeping Lana on the show, but making her out to be some kind of god damn hero-like character with (and this is where I began to cry) superhero abilities. Yes, it brings tears to my eyes as I type this. I just... I just want to die.

Strike that... I want Lana to die. And stay dead. And never come back... Ever.






P.S. HIGH SCHOOL DEAN WINCHESTER ROCKED!!!

[Darth Maul]

I cried. Really, I did. But not in that oh my god, what an amazing heartwarming episode kind of way, but instead in a oh my god, that was downright terrible and heartbreaking kind of way. Seriously, that was a horrible, horrible episode. First I get a douche moment from Clark in the last episode where he loses my respect by kissing Lana, now I get a double-douche moment from the writers for not only keeping Lana on the show, but making her out to be some kind of god damn hero-like character with (and this is where I began to cry) superhero abilities. Yes, it brings tears to my eyes as I type this. I just... I just want to die.

Strike that... I want Lana to die. And stay dead. And never come back... Ever.






P.S. HIGH SCHOOL DEAN WINCHESTER ROCKED!!!


Agreed on everything, including the winchester part. LANA MUST DIE!

[Alien]

With Jimmy in... Star City? Edge City? One of those two.

She'll be in the first episode back after the break - Infamous.
Why? Jimmy is a friend but does she really get paid enough to take a holliday to a different city to look after her cousin's husband? She wouldn't get sick days or anything like that coz it's not her husband or close family member.

[FVD]

Where the hell is this season going now? Yeah great that next week will be the last we'll ever see of Lana. The supersuit thing is just plain pathetic. I agree with Torn that Allison directed the episode pretty well but overall the episode was horrible. When I saw that they kissed again at the end that just killed it. I mean how the hell can they build up Clark and Lois like that and then revert back to Lana again. How much more confused to the writers want to make Clark? They were off to a great start. I truly hope things to will get better again once Lois and Jimmy come back.

Oh, and what the hell happened to Zatanna? :rolleyes:

[Tornado]

Why? Jimmy is a friend but does she really get paid enough to take a holliday to a different city to look after her cousin's husband? She wouldn't get sick days or anything like that coz it's not her husband or close family member.

Just.... no.

Oh, and what the hell happened to Zatanna? :rolleyes:

She's going to show up in episode 17 - Hex.

[JheyDC]

Ok, missed the last fifteen minutes of the show..I don't know what is up with my DVR.

Can you guys give me the highlights?

Last scene I saw was when Tess beating the shat out of that one dude that tried to shoot her...

[Tornado]

Highlights? What are you talking about highlights?

You missed Tess trying to shut down the Prometheus experiment tank nonsense, she knocked down Doctor Groll (the guy we've seen before) and then fired her gun. Clark sped in, just in time to see Lana (now super-charged because of the Prometheus super-suit) break out of the tank and catch the bullet. The episode ended with Clark and Lana kissing on top of the Daily Planet.

[JheyDC]

Geez..seriously? (yak)

Does she still look the same?

And is that spoiler about them two for real? If so, I think I just died...over again...

[Tolkien]

Yes, she still looks the same. Sorry, no getting away from that one. ;)

[Danny Rand]

Tess is an "original" character for the show. She's based on Mercy Graves and Miss Teschmacher.

So, you may not like Tess either, but they didn't "**** her up." ;)


I know she is based on Mercy Graves and Miss Teschmacher and yeah they did **** her up because she isn't a whole lot like either of them

[Danny Rand]

so am I the only one who knows that Lana does get powers and becomes a superhero in the comics also and that is sort of where they are going?

[Alien]

so am I the only one who knows that Lana does get powers and becomes a superhero in the comics also and that is sort of where they are going?
I can't find any refrence to her having powers in the comics.

[Danny Rand]

I can't find any refrence to her having powers in the comics.

she becomes Insect Queen

[Tornado]

I know she is based on Mercy Graves and Miss Teschmacher and yeah they did **** her up because she isn't a whole lot like either of them

And she's not supposed to be. Are we going in circles, I feel like I just said this.

so am I the only one who knows that Lana does get powers and becomes a superhero in the comics also and that is sort of where they are going?

You're not the only one, but the Insect Queen story is hardly relevant to what they're doing on the show.

[Danny Rand]

And she's not supposed to be. Are we going in circles, I feel like I just said this.



You're not the only one, but the Insect Queen story is hardly relevant to what they're doing on the show.

yes she is the writers said she is a mosh of the two characters so it seems to me she should act like one of them at least. You are just letting them get away with ****ting writing like usual

yeah because they are trying to hip it up but Kreuk has said that the plan was for Lana to become a hero like she did in the comics and have that lead to Clark finally excepting his calling

[Tornado]

yes she is the writers said she is a mosh of the two characters so it seems to me she should act like one of them at least. You are just letting them get away with ****ting writing like usual

Nope. The name was an homage, not the character's personality. Regardless, she is very similar to Mercy Graves anyway. Not so much Teschmacher, but that's a good thing as Teschmacher has no place on a show like "Smallville."

And, I'm letting them get away with ****ty writing? I just spat all over last night's episode, and rightfully so. I think you should do a little reading before you throw around false accusations.

yeah because they are trying to hip it up

No they're not. That's just stupid.

but Kreuk has said that the plan was for Lana to become a hero like she did in the comics and have that lead to Clark finally excepting his calling

Clark has already accepted his destiny. We didn't need Lana to become some kind of superhero too.

[Angelixx]

so i just saw the episode and uhhh....oh my sweet jesus if lana doesn't die a horrible graphic death next episode i'm done with this show.

super powers? WHAT THE ****??

if i have to hear another one of her soft motherly voice speeches im gonna break my tv.

[Alien]

Sounds like DC had a lazy day when they came up with Insect Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_Queen_(DC_Comics))... It's just the Green Lantern Story, she was even given a ring...

Also I guess that was the joke in Episode 1 or 2 season 1 with Freak of the Week Insect Boy.

[Tornado]

so i just saw the episode and uhhh....oh my sweet jesus if lana doesn't die a horrible graphic death next episode i'm done with this show.

super powers? WHAT THE ****??

if i have to hear another one of her soft motherly voice speeches im gonna break my tv.

I don't think Lana is going to die. I would guess that by the end of the episode, she will have resigned herself to only "donning the tights" if it became absolutely necessary, and leaving the everyday tactics to Clark and the Justice League.

Frankly, it's not even the tights/powers that bother me the most. I'm not happy about either of them, but that's beside the point. What drives me nuts is that when Lana left Clark in Arctic, I thought that would be it. They started building up the Clark/Lois relationship more than ever this season, and I just thought that when Lana inevitably came back, Clark just flat-out wouldn't be interested in her anymore. They showed hints of that in Bride, but it's obviously been cast to the sidelines in favor of the tired old usual.

[Neverending]

I think it's funny that there's more discussion in this thread when an episode sucks than when it's good. lol. But, anyway, what can I say? Lana needs to die. :mad:

[Tornado]

I think that's the case for a lot of topics though. When something is great, everybody chimes in with "That was awesome!" or whatever, but what else do you say after that? Whereas with an episode like Power, there can be debate over what was bad, what was good (nothing!), what we would have done differently, etc.

[Neverending]

what else do you say after that?

Erica Durance's clevage was awesome tonight. :confused:

[Danny Rand]

Nope. The name was an homage, not the character's personality. Regardless, she is very similar to Mercy Graves anyway. Not so much Teschmacher, but that's a good thing as Teschmacher has no place on a show like "Smallville."

And, I'm letting them get away with ****ty writing? I just spat all over last night's episode, and rightfully so. I think you should do a little reading before you throw around false accusations.



No they're not. That's just stupid.



Clark has already accepted his destiny. We didn't need Lana to become some kind of superhero too.


It's the same as they did with Bizarro and so many other characters they try to hip them up and take away all the personality traits that make the character what it is. It's why it also has to be nanites because nanites is the cool thing that people buy as probable. It's just pathetic writing and producing which they have done throughout most of the seasons the past 4 years or so

[Darth Maul]

Erica Durance's clevage was awesome tonight. :confused:

:D

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f336/ArmandoRay/Erica_Durance6.jpg

[Danny Rand]

Sounds like DC had a lazy day when they came up with Insect Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_Queen_(DC_Comics))... It's just the Green Lantern Story, she was even given a ring...

Also I guess that was the joke in Episode 1 or 2 season 1 with Freak of the Week Insect Boy.

yup pretty much on both accounts

[Angelixx]

I don't think Lana is going to die. I would guess that by the end of the episode, she will have resigned herself to only "donning the tights" if it became absolutely necessary, and leaving the everyday tactics to Clark and the Justice League.

Frankly, it's not even the tights/powers that bother me the most. I'm not happy about either of them, but that's beside the point. What drives me nuts is that when Lana left Clark in Arctic, I thought that would be it. They started building up the Clark/Lois relationship more than ever this season, and I just thought that when Lana inevitably came back, Clark just flat-out wouldn't be interested in her anymore. They showed hints of that in Bride, but it's obviously been cast to the sidelines in favor of the tired old usual.

i dont think she is either, which doesn't make me feel better at all :(
but i feel you on the whole two steps back relationship return. it pisses me off too. I really hate that they built up the relationship with lois to just completely throw it in the trash now because it means they basically have to start all over again. Its too much to hope that in the next episode Clark will suddenly be like "oh wait...no i DONT wanna be with you or have the feelings i professed for you just a few days ago...my bad".

so basically Kreuks last episode is probably gonna end in some bad way that means Clark and Lana's relationship ends because of some horrible coincidence and not because they both truly moved on. meaning his relationship with lois is compromised because i dont wanna lois to be a character that hooks up with a guy who she knows has strong feelings for another woman and who would just up and leave her the moment a relationship with the other woman was possible!

oh god im getting ahead of myself and giving myself a headache. point is: this episode sucked and if lana doesnt die i hope she at least gets pwnd in some good old fashioned way. preferably by lois pushing her off a building or something screaming "step off my man *****!"

oh and despite what Clark and Chloe think, Lana IS holding Clark back.

[Neverending]

Someone on SHH is wondering who Kreuk is sleeping with. lol. That's a good question indeed.

But maybe Tornado is correct. Kreuk may have signed on to return when Gough & Millar were still around and this may be some holdovers from the era.

I can't honestly believe that the current showrunners, who have done an amazing job up to this point, could make such a horrible mistake. Most likely what happened was that Kreuk signed on with G&M were around and only agreed to the storyline they had in mind. But when the new showrunners had a different idea she rejected it. Just a theory, folks.

[Danny Rand]

I have a feeling they will pull the whole Lana dies because the nanites are unstable angle

Kreuk and Rosenbaum were signed on for their episodes before the season started and the storylines were already plotted out for the most part


they just better not **** up Zatanna

[JheyDC]

Wow, big debate going on...just a little concerned if any of those things should be wrapped up and considered as spoilers...

[sshuttari]

What is it with the writers' obsession about Lana Lang? Just get rid of her already! Send her to Mars, send her to the future, send her back to Superman III. Just get her the hell out of Smallville. She's an anchor on this show's promise.

[Tornado]

It's the same as they did with Bizarro and so many other characters they try to hip them up and take away all the personality traits that make the character what it is. It's why it also has to be nanites because nanites is the cool thing that people buy as probable. It's just pathetic writing and producing which they have done throughout most of the seasons the past 4 years or so

Thanks for the input, troll. :)

Kreuk and Rosenbaum were signed on for their episodes before the season started and the storylines were already plotted out for the most part

Rosenbaum isn't signed on for anything. His contract ended with Season 7, and he has shown almost no interest in returning to the series.

[RingWraith2k4]

:D

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f336/ArmandoRay/Erica_Durance6.jpg

I miss her cleavage. :(

[EnderDeschain]

I just tried quoting the last paragraph of post 6680 so I could say "word", but I got some kind of database error ****.

Anyway, Tornado and the girl are spot on. The Clark and Lana relationship was what it was when it was there, and you can't just forget that. However comma, you can move past it, which was what the show was doing. It was actually pretty truthful in the way that relationships go. It was hitting every stride right. Everyone was dreading Lana's return, but it turned out surprisingly good. It actually helped the storyline and the direction Clark was going. In the span of one episode (and the last ten seconds of the one before it) all of that got shat upon. The whole "moving past it" idea got discarded. The bad thing is that they have nowhere to go now but down. There's no way to salvage this in an acceptable way. Can anyone see a conceivable resolution to the horse**** from this episode that will fit with the rest of the season? I can't. If Lana dies, Clark can't just move past it 'cuz they've now reestablished the whole "love of my life" crap between him and Lana, and any burgeoning relationship between Clark and Lois is gonna suffer or at least be somewhat effected because of that. If it isn't, then it isn't true to the character of Clark. He has to be torn up if Lana dies, inconsolable, wearing the black and red shield and what-not (so to speak). Whereas if they'd continued the way it was and Lana died, Clark could've turned to Lois for comfort and actually strengthened his relationship with her. Being as it is, if he does that, he's gonna seem like a fickle insensitive prick. No matter how Lana leaves, if Clark moves past her too fast now that he's rededicated himself to her, he's gonna be a dick.

On the other hand, if Lana goes bye-bye next episode in one way or another and Lois shows up the next episode, that leaves room for a consoling type of relationship. But is that how Lois should be, a rebound? Nay, I say to thee, nay. It was going good, it was in fact going perfectly. I just can not understand this. At all.

And Teri Hatcher's still hotter.

[Angelixx]

hahaa am i "the girl"? how degrading lol.

[R-Type]

i hope next week is the final time we ever see Lana and i hope they wrap up Lex's story too for at least until a years time, and the end of season 9 if they get one.

[Markus Corvinus]

I don't mind the whole Lana arc, and this season has been stellar, I'm loving all the twists and turns they're taking with the mythos. I also like that Clark has been acting more like Superman than ever before.

Btw, am I the only one scared they may cheap out on the big fight between Clark & Doomsday?

[Tornado]

I'm kinda worried about the fight as the show has a history of having lame fight scenes (Clark and Titan's battle in Combat being one of the few exceptions), but at the same time I have faith they'll do something cool.

[Markus Corvinus]

This is just my opinion but I don't think the fight scenes are lame...just too short at times, but I can understand that because they have budget restraints. In any case, I do agree they'll do something cool. I mean, it's Doomsday...people expect no less than some heart pounding & amazing action.

[JheyDC]

Some awesome fight scenes that comes to mind:

Clark and Zod (as Lex) Episode 6.1 Zod
Clark and Bizarro Episode 7.1 Bizarro

These two would have been great if they weren't too short... :(

[Markus Corvinus]

Awesome fights but as you said, too short. Still, the fight with Titan is one of the best superhero fights I've seen period. It was only about four or five minutes long, but there were so many fists flying that you didn't even care. We need something like that with Doomsday, only much more vicious and longer.

[sniktsnakt]

Does anyone even like Lana anymore?

I stopped watching it for a while until I heard she'd gone into that coma thing back in last season, and once she disappeared I sang praises of glory. This season's been the best for a good long while, but now that she's back, I'm seriously thinking about another haitus.

The hope over here right now is that she gets outta control and Clark's gotta put her down, or something.

As long as she's gone, I could care less.

[Markus Corvinus]

I don't mind Lana, and I think this whole Lana hate thing is something a few people started because of general dislike for the character, and then everyone else jumped onboard like sheep.

[JheyDC]

I believe it's more like the show put too much screen time for Lana. Too much that we didn't need. This I believe is why everyone else is bored/hate the character.

[Markus Corvinus]

True, but it seems like some just jumped aboard because it seemed cool. Like, for instance, this girl I've been talking to (she's a friend) has come up with insults that don't make any sense being directed towards Lana. I don't really care if people don't like her, but boycotting the show because she gets a few episodes this season? It's ridiculous.

[sniktsnakt]

I'm just perturbed that Lois and Clark were finally starting to get somewhere, and then . . . WHAM! Here's Lana again. She and Clark have been done to death.

And where the heck is Lois right now? She took off with Jimmy and we haven't seen her since.

[JheyDC]

True, but it seems like some just jumped aboard because it seemed cool. Like, for instance, this girl I've been talking to (she's a friend) has come up with insults that don't make any sense being directed towards Lana. I don't really care if people don't like her, but boycotting the show because she gets a few episodes this season? It's ridiculous.

I guess, but everyone has their own reasons

I'm just perturbed that Lois and Clark were finally starting to get somewhere, and then . . . WHAM! Here's Lana again. She and Clark have been done to death.

And where the heck is Lois right now? She took off with Jimmy and we haven't seen her since.

Well if you really want to know more about the upcoming seasons, you could check out www.kryptonsite.com, very spoilerish so caution.

The powers that be I guess is pretty much stuck with Lana and they want to give her a proper ending. Again, like what everyone has said before in this thread, Kristin Kreuk signed a contract before the new writers came aboard.

[sniktsnakt]

I guess, but everyone has their own reasons



Well if you really want to know more about the upcoming seasons, you could check out www.kryptonsite.com, very spoilerish so caution.

The powers that be I guess is pretty much stuck with Lana and they want to give her a proper ending. Again, like what everyone has said before in this thread, Kristin Kreuk signed a contract before the new writers came aboard.

Thanks! <heads off to kryptonsite>

[Markus Corvinus]

I hope Lex is killed off by the end of this arc or season. I don't mind the character or anything, but I just think they should give him a sendoff that's for good.

[JheyDC]

ah...I don't think that will happen...

[Markus Corvinus]

You never know, man. He's basically a cripple, or is just heavily injured, and his powersuit is gone....so, you never know.

[JheyDC]

Actually we do know...Smallville is the stage of Clark Kent's life before he becomes Superman.

[Markus Corvinus]

Duh, everyone knows that. Way to state the obvious. In any case, that still doesn't even come to close to qualifying as a response to my belief that Lex may die.

[Tornado]

I don't think they'd kill Lex on the basis of his importance to the Superman of the future's story. Or at least I hope they don't kill him.... that'd be... well, I don't think I'd quit watching but I would certainly want to. "Smallville" is as much about Lex as it is about Clark; to permanently kill off either one of them would be a travesty.

[JheyDC]

Duh, everyone knows that. Way to state the obvious. In any case, that still doesn't even come to close to qualifying as a response to my belief that Lex may die.

Well, I had to state the obvious because from your response you stated;

You never know, man. He's basically a cripple, or is just heavily injured, and his powersuit is gone....so, you never know.

Remember that Lex still lives in the Superman movies that were recently released, so we do know that they won't kill him in the show. Not unless you mean kill him but he comes back somehow..that part we don't know..

This is not an attack but just an explanation...

[JheyDC]

More spoilers from Kryptonsite...

UPDATED 2/3/09: Entertainment Weekly's Michael Ausiello posted the following spoiler for "Stiletto," even though the harboring actually begins in episode #8-18: "Chloe willingly begins harboring a fugitive whose name rhymes with Broomsday. (Second hint: He turned her wedding day into a low-budget Cloverfield.) And being the dutiful hostess that she is, she even throws in free meals. Wait 'till you see what, er, who she serves for dinner on Day One." (The "feeding" may occur in #8-19, though Sam Witwer does not appear in that one).

[sshuttari]

jeez... I can't believe this is the last episode til March.

And we haven't even seen Louis...

[JheyDC]

Is it? Well March is right around the corner...but still..the wait is very longggggggg

[Tornado]

Who the hell is Louis? ;)

Yeah, the 15th episode airs March 5th.

[JheyDC]

hahahaha

[Alien]

More spoilers from Kryptonsite...

UPDATED 2/3/09: Entertainment Weekly's Michael Ausiello posted the following spoiler for "Stiletto," even though the harboring actually begins in episode #8-18: "Chloe willingly begins harboring a fugitive whose name rhymes with Broomsday. (Second hint: He turned her wedding day into a low-budget Cloverfield.) And being the dutiful hostess that she is, she even throws in free meals. Wait 'till you see what, er, who she serves for dinner on Day One." (The "feeding" may occur in #8-19, though Sam Witwer does not appear in that one).
That sounds so stupid! I hope they come up with a good reason as to why.

I guess I might be wrong since I was wrong about the Legion episode being overly cheesy.


jeez... I can't believe this is the last episode til March.

And we haven't even seen Louis...
Wait, what? Why? They just had there bloody x-mas break and they are taking another one!?

[Tornado]

They always take a spring break around this time, it's nothing new. We got 10 episodes in a row at the beginning of the season, that's a large part of why the breaks seem so close. Traditionally the schedule looks more like this:

September - November = 8 episodes, followed by about a month break
December = 1 episode, another month break
January - February = 6 episodes, month and a half or so
late March - May = 7 episodes

This season's set-up is probably going to run like this:

September - November = 10 episodes, two month break
January - early February = 4 episodes, one month break
early March to early April = 4 episodes, two week break (because the season won't wrap up in April)
mid April to mid May = 4 episodes, end of season

[JheyDC]

10 hours and 38 minutes til..Requiem

Also, if anyone is interested, they are casting for Smallville..check it out on

www.kryptonsite.com

[Tornado]

As much as I'd love to be in the background of a random scene on the show, I'd have a pretty hard time getting to Vancouver before summer (and they'd be done filming long before then).

Six hours, 33 minutes!

[JheyDC]

That would be nice though...

[Markus Corvinus]

Can't wait to see what the new episode brings tonight...I've been completely ignoring spoilers so that the rest of what happens this season is a surprise for me. Can't wait!!!

[Tornado]

I've kinda been slipping up and reading some spoilers for the next handful of episodes. I blame a lot of that on how weak the past two episodes have been; seeing Clark and Lana together really did a number on my faith in PS3. I felt compelled to read about future episodes, to see what other abominations they had up their sleeves (luckily, nothing noteworthy).

Even so, I know very little about tonight's episode; probably 90% of it will be a surprise to me.

[Darth Maul]

Tornado whats ps3 mean and wheres ur avatar from?

[Tornado]

PS3 is the unofficial term for the new show runners: Brian Peterson, Kelly Souders, Todd Slavkin, and Darren Swimmer.

And my avatar is from the television show "Angel."I started watching in mid-January, and wrapped up Season 5 (the final season) last night. Overall, I was pretty impressed. It's very similar to "Smallville" in tone, but it's quite a bit funnier and the writing is maybe a little more consistent (more great episodes, fewer "weak" ones).

[Alien]

Angel is a much better show than Smallville ever has been. It's a lot darker in tone and almost no weak episodes. I didn't like the Jasmine run but I actually liked Connor who everyone else hated.

[Tornado]

As much as I loved "Angel," ultimately it's the characters that determine how great a show is in my opinion, and nothing can beat the cast on "Smallville."

[JheyDC]

7 hours and 45 minutes...

[Alien]

Grumpy older Wesley, Gunn, Doyle and Lorne were all great. Fred, Connor and Cordelia were all good. Angel and Spike were starts.

[Tornado]

I didn't say I disliked the characters on "Angel," but I grew up with those on "Smallville."

And Connor was a ***** until Season 5.

[JheyDC]

I only watched a few of Season 1 of Angel..it was good..lost track of it though :(

5 hours and 15 minutes...

[Darth Maul]

i liked the buffy series more then angel imo

[Tornado]

I haven't watched Buffy. I might ask for the Chosen Collection for my birthday, but I probably won't. I guess I'd like to watch it, but it's not terribly important to me right now.

[Alien]

Buffy was never as good for me. It had better episodes but as a whole Angel was the better show.

[unity768]

this episode better deliver the goods

[Tornado]

It's hard to believe this is it for Lana.

The episode is called REQUIEM, which usually means a mass for the dead, or some kind of a chant for the dead. I tell ya... I gotta say it, I'm not entirely convinced Lana isn't going to die. I wouldn't think on pure principle, but because of the episode title... I'm just not sure.

[Markus Corvinus]

I'm so glad at what just transpired.

[Tornado]

And another terrible episode! Hurrah!

[Angelixx]

im so not. this episode was the exact scenario i was afraid would happen. guh.

[unity768]

I can't reccomend this episdoe, but it was an improvement over last weeks...until Lex is dead? are they serious?

[unity768]

I'm not surprised Lois will be a second choice..they really screwed things up I'm extremely dissappointed. In Bride it sounded like the producers were moving past Clark/Lana but last weeks episode and this week proves ps3 shares the same vision as Al/Miles. Better than last weeks but still dog crap

[Tornado]

I just cannot understand why making Clark take several steps back after half a season of pure progress was a good idea. I mean, honestly... if it was an issue of not knowing what to do with Lana after she negotiated her return before PS3 came into power, there are a dozen things they could have done with the character. But making Clark fall in love with her again, and making Lana leave without him being able to get over her... just, no. Absolutely terrible. I don't want to ever see Lana again.

The only way to save this is for Lois to show up and just tell Clark off.

[Tornado]

There's no way Lex is dead. I just don't buy that at all. He'll show up again at the end of the season, or in the series finale.

[unity768]

Odyssey - B
Plastique - B+
Toxic - C
Instinct - B
Committed - C+
Prey - A-
Identity - A
Bloodline - B+
Abyss - A
Bride - A
Legion - A-
Bulletproof - C
Power - F
Requiem - D+

[Tornado]

Odyssey - A-
Plastique - B
Toxic - C-
Instinct - C+
Committed - A-
Prey - A
Identity - A+
Bloodline - A-
Abyss - A
Bride - A-
Legion - A+
Bulletproof - C
Power - F
Requiem - D

Yeah, that's probably about right.

[unity768]

Man I popped in my season 3 dvd's this week...show was so awesome then. The tension between Lex and Lionel, Chloe's involvement w/ investigating Clark and Lionel breathing down her neck, The over-arching plot deal between Jonathan and Jor-El, the perfect season finale, just awesome television