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Tornado

12-11-2005, 05:37 PM

Well, ages have never really mattered in this show, so he could be one close to that of Clark (19, 20, something like that). There's a scene in Begins when Bruce is back in Gotham for the hearing of Joe Chill, and he mentions something about Princeton, so he doesn't start traveling until 21 or 22 most likely (in the film anyway).

I think it would work well.

OBSERVER

12-11-2005, 06:39 PM

I made the same kind of post about Bruce Wayne a few pages back. haha

Tornado

12-11-2005, 06:45 PM

O....k....?

boydston_14

12-11-2005, 07:11 PM

Episode 515 now has a title:

515 - Cyborg

I don't know if any of you are familiar with Cyborg from the Teen Titans or not, but it's about him.

Woah!!! Sounds cool, but I, like someone stated above, would like to see some more classic characters, like, let's say, Bruce Wayne;)

insaneMoViEgoer

12-12-2005, 01:03 AM

Alien

12-12-2005, 10:55 AM

:omg:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/TJ4life/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-54.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/TJ4life/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-55.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/TJ4life/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-56.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/TJ4life/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-57.jpg
Does it really snow in Kansas? Isn't that like near-ish Texas?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/Map_of_USA_highlighting_Kansas.png
I'd say that was near-ish. I know there have been shows in the past where show was lying on the ground but I just guessed we were to ignore that and remember the show is shot in Canada.

OBSERVER

12-12-2005, 12:35 PM

It has recently snowed in the top part of Texas. Illinois gets snow every year and Kansas is nearly that far north. On rare occasions there has been light snow on the gulf coast.

Neverending

12-12-2005, 01:42 PM

So, that’s a sneak peek at Jonathan Kent’s funeral? I guess John Schneider is leaving the show to do a Dukes of Hazard reunion.

Tornado

12-12-2005, 05:37 PM

I am so pumped for the 100th episode, it's a shame it's about 1.5 months away.

insaneMoViEgoer

12-13-2005, 10:12 PM

i know alot of people here think JK will bite the dust, but if you look at this pic:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/TJ4life/S60A-D29-SMA1-10-57.jpg

the grave looks to small to be Jonathon, unless not much is left after his life force is taken.

Karma Dog

12-14-2005, 10:55 AM

Alien

12-14-2005, 12:04 PM

you guys can't be serious about snow in Kansas, right? yes, we get snow. not to insult anyone (and not that the smallville creators have done extensive research into the climate of kansas), I know it's impossible to know the weather patterns of unfamiliar areas.... but hell, it gets farging cold here we got 'bout 18" of snow last week....my problem was last week, during the xmas ep when Lana was outside in a tank top... yeah right, get a jacket on or you'll freeze your nips off sweetie....

so yeah it snows in kansas.
I actually thought Kansas was a state more west till I saw the map. Also the only pics of Texas I've seen look more like Nevada than Alaska (See what I did there). The only state in the US I really care about is Florida and that’s only coz it’s got Disney n stuff.

Karma Dog

12-14-2005, 05:43 PM

nah, it's cool... we get a bit of everything here. peace.

Freelow

12-15-2005, 07:47 AM

you guys can't be serious about snow in Kansas, right? yes, we get snow. not to insult anyone (and not that the smallville creators have done extensive research into the climate of kansas), I know it's impossible to know the weather patterns of unfamiliar areas.... but hell, it gets farging cold here we got 'bout 18" of snow last week....my problem was last week, during the xmas ep when Lana was outside in a tank top... yeah right, get a jacket on or you'll freeze your nips off sweetie....

so yeah it snows in kansas.

Kansas gets snow? Next you're going to tell me that you get temperatures during the summer reaching 100+ degrees. :)

I made the mistake of being sent to Kansas in the middle of the summer to visit a vendor. They purposely start their day at 5am and end at 1pm to avoid the heat. The have fans the size of jet engines that they use to keep their factory cool during the day.

hard2hold

12-15-2005, 10:58 AM

I would so love my day to start at 5am & get off at 1pm.

Karma Dog

12-15-2005, 11:57 AM

Kansas gets snow? Next you're going to tell me that you get temperatures during the summer reaching 100+ degrees. :)

I made the mistake of being sent to Kansas in the middle of the summer to visit a vendor. They purposely start their day at 5am and end at 1pm to avoid the heat. The have fans the size of jet engines that they use to keep their factory cool during the day.

oh yeah, the heat sucks like hell too.

Rogue

12-16-2005, 01:30 AM

Caught the 2 hour episode of the show tonight. It was badass. I sorta got mad when he saved Lana when he promised Jor - El he'd be back. Superman with no powers?! What's the meaning of this?

Oh and I'm behind a little bit..so uhm who'd Lana kill and why? And is Lex in love with her? He told her tonight that she meant more to him than she knew. Or is he just using her for something?

boydston_14

12-16-2005, 01:19 PM

Rogue, did you know that those were two repeat episodes? Anyways, Lana killed Jason Teague's mom, and yes, Lex does kinda have a thing for Lana. For example, the Christmas episode.

Rogue

12-16-2005, 02:44 PM

Klimber

12-16-2005, 03:51 PM

So I'm trying to catch up. For example..who the hell is Jason Teague? :(

Lana's Season 4 boyfriend.

Rent Season 4 for better understanding.

boydston_14

12-16-2005, 08:39 PM

Nope, I didn't know they were old. I sort of lost touch with Smallville after the first couple of seasons but now my friends and clients at work are getting me back into it.

So I'm trying to catch up. For example..who the hell is Jason Teague? :(

Oh, well, I kinda lost interest during the fourth season. I watched the first three or four episodes, then just saw one other one. The two episodes that were on the other night I saw for the first time. I'm really starting to get back into this show.

Karma Dog

12-17-2005, 11:57 AM

I thought the fourth season was terrible, with only a few standout episodes where the other seasons were typically great, with a few crappy ones. But most of the fourth season, they had their hands tied by Warner Brothers while they figured out what they were doing with the movie.....

but I do think this season has been much better and has a better sense of direction.

Tornado

12-17-2005, 12:27 PM

I actually liked S4 quite a bit, and I feel that most of the episodes were pretty well done. There were a few I felt were questionable (408 - Spell, 414 - Krypto, and 416 - Lucy come to mind), but a few of the others were some of the best of the series (401 - Crusade, 419 - Blank, and 422 - Commencement).

I still feel that S3 was the best though, and my opinion on that probably won't change unless S5 continues cranking out episodes as stellar as the first and last couple have been (I'm not a fan of 505 - Thirst or 506 - Exposed).

The new trailer...

http://www.wb58tv.com/video/5546802/index.html

... only covers the past episodes of S5 and the next three (410 - Fanatic, 411 - Lockdown, and 412 - Reckoning), but the new footage looks superb. Gotta love the idea of Lana possibly figuring out Clark's secret.

insaneMoViEgoer

12-17-2005, 01:11 PM

Tornado

12-17-2005, 01:13 PM

406 - Transference did rock. I can't believe I forgot about it. Good call. I always loved the look on Lionel's face just as Clark races out of the prison and some of the smoke shoots out with him.

Karma Dog

12-17-2005, 01:57 PM

See, that was the thing about season four... when it was good,it rocked, but when it was bad... well, it was just bad. I didn't like the whole witch plot line. but I agree, that the good ones were excellent. I don't blame the writers, I blame the way they were just kind of tied up until WB figured out where they wanted to go. You can tell this season they have a little more creative freedom.

Tornado

12-19-2005, 04:51 PM

There's a very spoilerish image over at KryptonSite.com right now. I won't post the image, but here's a direct link to it:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/b784d148.jpg

OBSERVER

12-19-2005, 07:02 PM

Which upcoming episode is that image from?

Tornado

12-19-2005, 07:08 PM

KSite is guessing it's from the 100th episode, 512 - Reckoning, but nothing's been confirmed yet.

And a new bunch of stills from 510 - Fanatic are now up at KSite.

Freelow

12-19-2005, 07:51 PM

There's a very spoilerish image over at KryptonSite.com right now. I won't post the image, but here's a direct link to it:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/b784d148.jpg

You have got to be kdding me, right?

Clark get some action so now he has to tell Lana all his secrets? I actually prefer less people to know his secret. I hope she loses her memory again.

Keep it in your pants Clark - tell less people.

Rogue

12-20-2005, 03:52 AM

What what what?! Get up off your knees boy! Gah, they're going to go and screw everything up. *sigh* When good shows go bad...

Tony Montana

12-20-2005, 05:09 AM

That sucks. What kind of brainwash thing will they use this time???

cktom

12-20-2005, 07:37 AM

does any1 kno wen smallville series 5 wil b coming out on dvd any answer greatly welcomed :confused:

Tornado

12-20-2005, 07:38 AM

Probably September of 2006. That's when Season Four was released anyway (in America, I don't know about other countries).

Anyway, here's the official description of the next episode:

510 - FANATIC

THE RACE GETS UGLY BETWEEN JONATHAN AND LEX - Jonathan (John Schneider) receives threats on his life from a mysterious source who urges him to drop out of the senate race. Later, Clark (Tom Welling) finds his dad bloody and beaten and becomes determined to find his attacker. He later discovers that a group of Lex's followers are determined to do anything to see that Lex wins the election. Lois' (Erica Durance) life is threatened when she's captured and asked to assassinate Jonathan during his speech. Lionel (John Glover) offers to give Martha (Annette O'Toole) money to help Jonathan's campaign. Lana (Kristin Kreuk) is convinced that the answers she is looking for lie in researching the first meteor shower. Allison Mack also stars. Wendy Mericle wrote the episode directed by Michael Rohl.

Spirited Away

12-20-2005, 12:57 PM

Is that Clark proposing to Lana? Holy Jeebus, if that's the case, i'm willing to be that when he does, she'll say "yes" and then just as they kiss Lana is killed.

WuTical

12-20-2005, 03:07 PM

Is that Clark proposing to Lana? Holy Jeebus, if that's the case, i'm willing to be that when he does, she'll say "yes" and then just as they kiss Lana is killed.
i hope she dies

Freelow

12-20-2005, 05:46 PM

does any1 kno wen smallville series 5 wil b coming out on dvd any answer greatly welcomed :confused:

I am going to be pain in the @ss here.

How much time did you save by typing the way you did? One second? Wow, you saved a second and made yourself look illiterate.:meanie:

Sorry folks, just a one of my pet peeves.

Spirited Away

12-20-2005, 06:00 PM

Harsh, man. Some people type just like they do on MSN, it's not wrong or anything. I personally didn't find it difficult to read what he typed, so I don't expect you did either.

Karma Dog

12-20-2005, 06:36 PM

I would actually think it would take longer to type that way because you'd have to consciously think about spelling it wrong....and internet speak or not, it does come off as illiterate...but either way, his choice.

And it will be interesting to see how much Clark tells Lana and how much she remembers.

Alien

12-21-2005, 12:08 PM

Harsh, man. Some people type just like they do on MSN, it's not wrong or anything. I personally didn't find it difficult to read what he typed, so I don't expect you did either.
Normally I do find it difficult but I'm getting used to getting drunken texts and that's what it looked like.

Tornado

12-21-2005, 04:48 PM

Issue #172 of Wizard magazine, which hits comic book shops today, features a special 2006 preview. The main feature is about the new Superman Returns film, but elsewhere in the mags, other comics-related highlights are featured... including the big 100th episode of Smallville. Wizard catches up with Executive Producer Alfred Gough for some hints on episode #100 - and beyond.

"There's a death--that's all I can say," Gough tells Wizard about the 100th episde. He also hints about more DC Comics characters coming in the future. "More DC Comics characters, most notably Cyborg. Brainiac will be back as well; you think he's down for the count, but he's not. You can also see an appearance by General Zod by season's end."

[Note that in this case Gough only implied there's ONE death, whereas some reports have said there will be "more than one" in "Reckoning," the season's 100th episode]

Gough also tells Wizard what we've known for a while, that Tom Welling will be directing an episode later this year. "He's been on that set more than anybody, he's worked with every actor and he's had to deal with every facet of production, so I think he'll do a great job," Gough raves.

-----------------------------

Question: Any more info about Smallville's 100th episode? — Logan

Ausiello: In addition to a major death, there will be a marriage proposal and we'll get another glimpse of the Fortress of Solitude.

boydston_14

12-21-2005, 06:52 PM

Ausiello: In addition to a major death, there will be a marriage proposal and we'll get another glimpse of the Fortress of Solitude.

Dammit, I hope that Clark doesn't propose to Lana. If that does happen, let's hope that either they kill her off later in the episode or it's some kind of brainwashing thing.

Alien

12-21-2005, 08:02 PM

Ausiello: In addition to a major death, there will be a marriage proposal and we'll get another glimpse of the Fortress of Solitude.
So Lex is getting mairred again... That's the safe bet. She'll die off too, late.

The_Carver

12-22-2005, 04:42 AM

Hi Guy's
Has anyone heard any info on the final episode to season 5?
It's going to be hard to top because commencement at the end of season 4 totally Rocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:omg:

WuTical

12-22-2005, 05:48 AM

Hi Guy's
Has anyone heard any info on the final episode to season 5?
It's going to be hard to top because commencement at the end of season 4 totally Rocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:omg:
who cares about the last ep. for this season lol..its all about episode 100 and 101

Spirited Away

12-22-2005, 08:22 AM

Wait there, I always thought the whole point Lois was introduced was to fall in love with Clark. Wouldn't having him propose to someone else put an even bigger dent in their destined love?

Tornado

12-23-2005, 08:43 PM

boydston_14

12-23-2005, 09:34 PM

Well, TPTB officially cast the role of CYBORG (from 515 - Cyborg) today. He's being played by none other than Lee Thompson Young. He was the star of the show, The Famous Jett Jackson, I'm not sure if any of you have seen it or not. ;)

Not a bad cast choice as far as I'm concerned, I always like having guest stars that I recognize.

Woah, I used to watch that show years back when it came on Disney. I hope this episode's good. It probably will be, though, so why should I worry?

Rogue

12-24-2005, 03:38 AM

Man....I'm falling in love with Smallville again. :D

boydston_14

12-26-2005, 05:36 PM

I got the second season for Christmas, now I'm finally getting to see it! I'm going to buy either the third or fourth season later today, depending on how much they cost and which ones they have at Wal-Mart.

Tornado

12-26-2005, 06:16 PM

I got the first three seasons for X-Mas, and I just sent in for the rebate this morning. Since all four sets were recently purchased, I had no problems finding the receipts. So $30 is coming my way. It's a nice way to cap off the X-Mas season. ;)

WuTical

12-26-2005, 08:52 PM

Tara

12-27-2005, 02:40 AM

i need to get the fourth season, since i haven't seen it yet, but i dont want to buy it off amazon, because it will cost to much,a nd i am unsure if it will ever get a dvd release here.

cktom

12-27-2005, 11:38 AM

Harsh, man. Some people type just like they do on MSN, it's not wrong or anything. I personally didn't find it difficult to read what he typed, so I don't expect you did either.
thanks for the stick up i dont actually type like that it was just that i was out of time and had to get back to work

cktom

12-27-2005, 11:41 AM

by the way i am actually a she not a he

WuTical

12-29-2005, 05:59 PM

The WB has released their official description for "Lockdown," the January 19 episode of Smallville.

LEX AND LANA ARE TAKEN HOSTAGE - The two police officers who witnessed the spaceship land in the meteor shower take Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Lana (Kristin Kreuk) hostage and threaten to kill them unless Lex reveals where he hid the spaceship. While escaping to the panic room in the mansion, Lex takes a bullet meant for Lana. Fearing Lex may bleed to death, Lana asks him to tell the officers the secret location, but he confesses the ship has been missing for weeks. Meanwhile, Clark (Tom Welling) discovers Lana has been researching the spaceship with Lex and fears she is close to discovering his secret. Allison Mack, John Glover, Annette O’Toole and John Schneider also star. Steven S. DeKnight wrote the episode directed by Peter Ellis

the elmo zombie

12-29-2005, 06:36 PM

http://www.wb58tv.com/video/5546802/index.html

trailer for 100th episode!

Tornado

12-29-2005, 07:17 PM

http://www.wb58tv.com/video/5546802/index.html

trailer for 100th episode!

Yeah, I posted that a while ago. But it's not just for the 100th episode. It's for the next three episodes (510 - Fanatic, 511 - Lockdown, and 512 - Reckoning).

the elmo zombie

12-29-2005, 07:20 PM

oh i didnt see your post sorry

Klimber

12-30-2005, 04:27 PM

Uh so was that Lois going all Sinead O Conner? Kinda sexy bald.

Tornado

12-30-2005, 08:06 PM

Uh so was that Lois going all Sinead O Conner? Kinda sexy bald.

No, that's Roxanne (used to be named Samantha, the name might not have changed, not 100% sure). As far as I know, she's the leader of the Students for Lex Luthor group (it's called something like that) supporting him in his run for Kansas State Senator.

the elmo zombie

12-30-2005, 08:34 PM

next week thier re-running the auqaman episode

the elmo zombie

12-31-2005, 12:01 AM

does anyone know how i could watch or download the episodes of smallville from season five that wont be airing before it returns?

WuTical

12-31-2005, 04:10 AM

does anyone know how i could watch or download the episodes of smallville from season five that wont be airing before it returns?
download the program Bitcomet

search for the torrents on: http://www.torrentspy.com/

save the torrents some place like my documents

and just click on the torrent and it'll automatically start the download

the elmo zombie

12-31-2005, 02:06 PM

it it legal?

Tornado

12-31-2005, 02:40 PM

Of course not. There's no legal way of downloading episodes without paying a sum of money.

WuTical

12-31-2005, 04:19 PM

it it legal?
does it matter lol

just download them and enjoy them

the elmo zombie

12-31-2005, 04:54 PM

im not doing it if its illegal but thanks

insaneMoViEgoer

12-31-2005, 06:22 PM

ok fine. its not illegal...

WuTical

12-31-2005, 07:14 PM

when im downloading movies, music etc...it never crosses my mind that i'm doing something illegal lol

Tornado

01-02-2006, 04:54 PM

NEW STILLS FROM 512 - RECKONING (all spoilerific obviously):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/778bd912.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/7e153b8c.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/7c330f14.jpg

If you don't want to know who dies, do NOT click this next link (although to be honest, I'm not as surprised as all of the critics said we would be):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/e09f34ad.jpg

WuTical

01-03-2006, 02:08 AM

insaneMoViEgoer

01-03-2006, 02:13 AM

something seems fishy though. few spoilers have been revealed about the episode, and those have been pretty vague at best. yet stills from very important scenes are released. are the producers mindf***ing with us? are they legit? we'll find out soon enough, but it does make me wonder if they have an even bigger twist for us, or i'm just really looking too hard into this whole thing :P

Tornado

01-03-2006, 07:49 AM

No, I agree insane. The 'death' is somewhat expected to be honest, and I too am wondering if the images are all a hoax.

Jason Krueger

01-03-2006, 09:01 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

What the heck is Lana doing at the fortress of solitude?

the elmo zombie

01-03-2006, 10:08 AM

dammit jor el!!!!!!

Angelixx

01-03-2006, 03:27 PM

Klimber

01-03-2006, 03:36 PM

im not doing it if its illegal but thanks

I suppose you don't speed either. Do you declare money that you find on the street to the IRS as income? Do you pay freeware programmers for their effort?

Your life is passing you by...

the elmo zombie

01-03-2006, 06:45 PM

ok im looking at it this way:

i dont think its Jonathan dying still......previously we got a pic of clark in seemingly in his funeral clothes???

but in that spoiler pic....hes already wearing those clothes from what i can tell.....why would you wear funeral clothes before the death has happened???

unless the death already happened and that last spoiler pic is to throw us off and Jonathan isnt really dead.....sorry but Lana must die lol

ok am i thinking good here or am i completely off??

thats probably the best explanation to this due to the fact that...

1. coffin size too small

2. clothes (as you mention)

3. lana cant be in the way if lois and him are to be together

4. anyone who knows about him besides chloe must eith die, leave, be brainwashed, or go to the cookoo's nest.

insaneMoViEgoer

01-03-2006, 07:32 PM

i'd rather she go to the cookoo's nest! :funny:

Angelixx

01-03-2006, 10:13 PM

^ ha yeah thatd be great lol
i really dont like lana

Tornado

01-04-2006, 07:41 AM

3. lana cant be in the way if lois and him are to be together

No, that's not really how it should work as far as I'm concerned. Lois is Clark's one true love. Clark has to get over Lana on his own, her death wouldn't cause that. He has to leave her, not the other way around.

The WB released a poster for the upcoming 100th episode, 512 - Reckoning:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/theanomaly2/785bbbfc.jpg

WuTical

01-04-2006, 04:42 PM

No, that's not really how it should work as far as I'm concerned. Lois is Clark's one true love. Clark has to get over Lana on his own, her death wouldn't cause that. He has to leave her, not the other way around.

yea but Smallville kinda confused things cause Clark isn't suppose to meet Lois until he goes to work @ the Daily Planet

so how is everything suppose to work lol

boydston_14

01-04-2006, 10:39 PM

ok im looking at it this way:

i dont think its Jonathan dying still......previously we got a pic of clark in seemingly in his funeral clothes???

but in that spoiler pic....hes already wearing those clothes from what i can tell.....why would you wear funeral clothes before the death has happened???

unless the death already happened and that last spoiler pic is to throw us off and Jonathan isnt really dead.....sorry but Lana must die lol

ok am i thinking good here or am i completely off??

I don't think you're off, I actually believe that Lana will die, after all, none of the K-Site rumors of future episodes have her in them after Reckoning, although the same could be said for Jonathan.

Tornado

01-04-2006, 10:51 PM

I don't think you're off, I actually believe that Lana will die, after all, none of the K-Site rumors of future episodes have her in them after Reckoning, although the same could be said for Jonathan.

Yeah, along with Martha, Lex, Lois, Lionel, and pretty much everybody else aside from Clark and Chloe. Honestly, while Jonathan is still my first guess, there are only two people who we know for sure are safe. Clark and Lex. I'm even a little skeptical of Lois to be honest. There are a lot of people who think that Lois is going to die, and Chloe is going to take up the Lane name. Why would she do that? Your guess is as good as mine, but the idea is still there.

DVDAVE

01-05-2006, 02:30 AM

Yeah, along with Martha, Lex, Lois, Lionel, and pretty much everybody else aside from Clark and Chloe. Honestly, while Jonathan is still my first guess, there are only two people who we know for sure are safe. Clark and Lex. I'm even a little skeptical of Lois to be honest. There are a lot of people who think that Lois is going to die, and Chloe is going to take up the Lane name. Why would she do that? Your guess is as good as mine, but the idea is still there.
hmmm never heard that but interesting

Tornado

01-05-2006, 06:57 PM

The next episode title has been revealed:

516 - HYPNOTIC

Jason Krueger

01-05-2006, 07:04 PM

I wonder what it'll be about.

boydston_14

01-05-2006, 09:42 PM

Tornado

01-07-2006, 01:36 PM

OFFICIAL DESCRIPTION FOR 512 - RECKONING:

SMALLVILLE’S 100TH EPISODE TRANSPORTS VIEWERS BACK INTO THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE AS CLARK BEGS JOR-EL TO SAVE THE LIFE OF SOMEONE HE LOVES - In the 100th episode of the series, Clark (Tom Welling) reveals his secret to Lana (Kristin Kreuk), Jonathan (John Schneider) and Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) learn the results of the senatorial election and there is a tragic car accident on the highway that takes the life of someone Clark loves. A desperate Clark appeals to Jor-El for help. Allison Mack, Erica Durance, John Glover and Annette O’Toole also star. Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders wrote the episode directed by Greg Beeman.

I tagged it all because well, it's pretty much all spoilers (it does NOT say who dies though, just the method of the death).

Tony Montana

01-07-2006, 02:18 PM

When will it be aired?

WuTical

01-07-2006, 09:02 PM

When will it be aired?
3 weeks

Tony Montana

01-08-2006, 06:38 AM

3 weeks

Thanx! I thought it would be this week... well, that sucks.

Klimber

01-09-2006, 12:31 PM

Thanx! I thought it would be this week... well, that sucks.

No this week is Episode 98 called Fanatic.

Neverending

01-09-2006, 06:44 PM

OFFICIAL DESCRIPTION FOR 512 - RECKONING:

A desperate Clark appeals to Jor-El for help.

And, Jor-El says, "You must become. . .

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/superman_returns/brandon_routh/superman.jpg

WuTical

01-10-2006, 02:46 AM

here's something i just thought of

everything else but Smallville, Clark goes to work for the Daily Planet and he has the glasses on and no one (Lex, Lois etc...) doesn't know him

now on Smallville, Lex and Lois already know him...they know what he looks like WITHOUT the glasses...isn't it gonna be pretty obvious that he's Superman lol

HeadHunter

01-10-2006, 06:50 AM

maybe he will never turn in to Superman ;) cause Marth is going to die and there will be no one to make the suit :P

Freelow

01-10-2006, 07:15 AM

maybe he will never turn in to Superman ;) cause Marth is going to die and there will be no one to make the suit :P

How sad. Clark is such a momma's boy that he can't be Superman without his mommy. ;)

HeadHunter

01-10-2006, 07:50 AM

How sad. Clark is such a momma's boy that he can't be Superman without his mommy. ;)

seems true to me ;)

WuTical

01-10-2006, 08:47 AM

maybe he will never turn in to Superman ;) cause Marth is going to die and there will be no one to make the suit :P
last time i checked, Jor-El gives him the suit lol

HeadHunter

01-10-2006, 09:01 AM

last time i checked, Jor-El gives him the suit lol

well I think I am thinking Lois and Clark :P

Neverending

01-10-2006, 06:37 PM

Martha made the suit for Clark in the comic books--the 1986 revamp by John Byrne to be exact. And, they carried that over to Lois & Clark show.

Klimber

01-11-2006, 05:53 PM

More Aquaman news:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=12617

At least they did not stick with the tool (Alan Ritchson) who was cast in the episode of Smallville this season. "Tough Luck Bro " He was just not the right fit.

the elmo zombie

01-11-2006, 06:51 PM

spoilersahead

Episode 5.12: Reckoning (100th episode)
Airdate: January 26, 2006

01/11 - Clark brings Lana to the caves. Then, he puts his silver key in the slot and both are taken to the Fortress of Solitude. He comes clean to Lana (he wasn't adopted and is from Krypton) and then proposes. Later, Lana and Clark talk on the phone. She just left a drunken Lex. She warns Clark about the fact that Lex knows Clark's secret and that it looked like Lex thought she knew too. Lex chases Lana in his car. He pulls up beside her and tells her to pull over to finish talking and she looks away for a split second and... Clark, having heard everything via his cell, rushes to the scene. Source: slave2WB

Tornado

01-11-2006, 07:08 PM

Well, I knew most of that, but I hadn't heard all of the stuff about Lex finding out about Clark's secret. To be honest, I'm skeptical of most of what you posted. Between the FOS scenes with Lana and the main character's death, who if you were wondering is VERY heavily rumored to be Jonathan (as you may have guessed), I'm not sure if they'll have enough time for a whole other sideplot.

boydston_14

01-11-2006, 09:33 PM

Well, I heard somewhere that Jonathan was going to die mid-episode, whereas Lionel would die in a car crash later on, and the Lana/Clark talk would be at the end of the episode.

WuTical

01-12-2006, 12:17 PM

imo, i think that what elmo zombie posted is fake

Klimber

01-12-2006, 02:34 PM

New episisode to night! Rock on.

Tornado

01-12-2006, 05:06 PM

Finally. I've been looking forward to this for a while now.

Angelixx

01-12-2006, 06:51 PM

I think Lex kills Lana in a jealous angry drunken rage :)

Tornado

01-12-2006, 06:53 PM

I think Lex kills Lana in a jealous angry drunken rage :)

I wouldn't mind that, but I'd bet against it. It'd screw up continuity, not to mention several sources have confirmed that she's safe.

the elmo zombie

01-12-2006, 06:53 PM

I think Lex kills Lana in a jealous angry drunken rage :)

which would drive lex into his evil self for good. spoilers have said that lex becomes evil this season

Angelixx

01-12-2006, 07:24 PM

lol that would be good and all...but i just want lana to die lol ;)

the elmo zombie

01-12-2006, 08:07 PM

the lane-clark plot is dull and boring now, but shes just so damn fun to watch

Tornado

01-12-2006, 08:20 PM

This episode is pretty good so far, hopefully it keeps up. I'll probably have a full review up tomorrow if I've got time.

Neverending

01-12-2006, 08:30 PM

HAHAHA Clark and Chloe have the sex talk. HAHAHA It's elementary school all over again. HAHAHA Oh, man, Tom Welling is such a pussy. Remember Dean Cain banging Lois Lane all the time?

Neverending

01-12-2006, 08:30 PM

Oh, and Jonathan Kent is sooooooooooooooooooo dead! This episode forshadows that WAY too much.

boydston_14

01-12-2006, 09:05 PM

I think that Lana and Jonathan may die in episode 100 now, after seeing the commercials for that episode that came on during 'Fanatic'.

WuTical

01-12-2006, 09:08 PM

good episode tonight

we need that damn 100th episode though

Neverending

01-12-2006, 09:13 PM

What's going on between Marthan and Lionel? She gets into that car with him? I'm thinking sex, but I might be wrong. Maybe its Lionel and Jonathan who die. Jonathan gets pissed off at Lionel for sleeping with his wife and kills him, then all the excitement is too much for his heart and he dies.

Probably not what's gonna happen but whatever

Tornado

01-12-2006, 09:21 PM

What's going on between Marthan and Lionel? She gets into that car with him? I'm thinking sex, but I might be wrong.

You're kidding right?

They met earlier in the episode behind the Talon, Lionel mentioned that they're running out of money and offered some, Martha shot him down and said Jonathan would never agree. Then at the end Lois mentioned that unless they come up with some serious money they're going to lose because Lex is running massive amounts of ads and whatnot. Then at the end Martha met Lionel again, and I'd bet the farm that they met to discuss the campaign financial situation.

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And that was a damn good episode as far as I'm concerned. It's always kind of cool seeing an episode that's not focused on Clark.

WuTical

01-12-2006, 09:25 PM

Neverending

01-12-2006, 10:32 PM

You're kidding right?

They met earlier in the episode behind the Talon, Lionel mentioned that they're running out of money and offered some, Martha shot him down and said Jonathan would never agree. Then at the end Lois mentioned that unless they come up with some serious money they're going to lose because Lex is running massive amounts of ads and whatnot. Then at the end Martha met Lionel again, and I'd bet the farm that they met to discuss the campaign financial situation.

Couldn't Martha be like, "send me a check, dude." She just had to get into his car in the middle of a dark alley? I wouldn't be surprised if some photographer was following her and snapped a picture.

In politics you have to be careful. Its like when that guy called Lex and he picked up by saying, "this isn't a secure line." You gotta be careful and Martha is just wandering into dark alleys and what not. Really smart. If in next week's episode they don't address that someone was following her, then they screwed up.

WuTical

01-13-2006, 09:40 AM

Couldn't Martha be like, "send me a check, dude." She just had to get into his car in the middle of a dark alley? I wouldn't be surprised if some photographer was following her and snapped a picture.

In politics you have to be careful. Its like when that guy called Lex and he picked up by saying, "this isn't a secure line." You gotta be careful and Martha is just wandering into dark alleys and what not. Really smart. If in next week's episode they don't address that someone was following her, then they screwed up.
wtf are you talking bout lol

Neverending

01-13-2006, 09:48 AM

wtf are you talking bout lol

In the episode, Jonathan, gets beat up and almost murdered. So, do you think it's smart to wander into dark alleys? First, you have to consider that there's some other person trying to harm you. Second, I'm sure the assassination attempt on Jonathan's life got A LOT of press and there's going to be journalists, photographers, and perhaps even political spies following them. So, why is Martha just wandering into dark alleys to meet Lionel Luthor? Couldn't she just call him up in a secure line and tell him to send SOMEONE to deliver the money?

I have a feeling this whole thing is going to lead up to something. And, don't forget that Lex knows that his father isn't supporting him, so Lex probably has people spying on his father.

This whole thing is going to lead to something. But you gotta watch the 100th episode to find out.

GreenvilleTexan

01-13-2006, 09:52 AM

Couple of things. Being a follower of politics, I wondered why they chose a state senate race for the storyline. If Kanas is the same as Texas, state senators are paid the equivalent of less than the minimum wage for the work they do, plus they get all their money from political parties with big hefty donors. Very few are already multimillionaries financing their own campaigns, or poor farmers willing to bankrupt the family business.
Plus, there is virtually no power involved in the position. You're just one of a bunch of guys and the people you represent probably don't know your name.
Oh well ... this is television.
I thought the episode was pretty good, but I agree that Martha is acting pretty stupidly by meeting with Lionel in a dark alley.
Also, isn't Lex being a little ludicrous by taking the high road and saying how he would never do anything against the Kents, when he already hired somebody to "do whatever it takes" so that he would win the election?

Neverending

01-13-2006, 10:38 AM

Also, isn't Lex being a little ludicrous by taking the high road and saying how he would never do anything against the Kents, when he already hired somebody to "do whatever it takes" so that he would win the election?

The problem with Lex at this moment is that he's in denial. The guy is evil, but hasn't accepted that yet. We saw hints of it in the Lexmas episode, but he's still in denial. They say its in this season that Lex becomes 100% evil. Lets see how that works out. Something tells me it will occur when he kills his father or something. If Jonathan dies, I think Lionel will go down with him. I've always seen the Clark/Jonathan and Lex/Lionel relationship as opposites of one another. The show spends a good amount of time showing that to us, so I think Jonathan and Lionel will both go down in episode 100. Each death impacts Clark and Lex's life, leading them to their path.

WuTical

01-13-2006, 12:14 PM

In the episode, Jonathan, gets beat up and almost murdered. So, do you think it's smart to wander into dark alleys? First, you have to consider that there's some other person trying to harm you. Second, I'm sure the assassination attempt on Jonathan's life got A LOT of press and there's going to be journalists, photographers, and perhaps even political spies following them. So, why is Martha just wandering into dark alleys to meet Lionel Luthor? Couldn't she just call him up in a secure line and tell him to send SOMEONE to deliver the money?

I have a feeling this whole thing is going to lead up to something. And, don't forget that Lex knows that his father isn't supporting him, so Lex probably has people spying on his father.

This whole thing is going to lead to something. But you gotta watch the 100th episode to find out.
you are thinking way too much

Lionel offered Martha money

she declined at first cause Jonathon wouldnt want her to take it

Lois tells her that they have no money

Martha meets Lionel and gets the money

that is all

Neverending

01-13-2006, 03:09 PM

you are thinking way too much

Lionel offered Martha money

she declined at first cause Jonathon wouldnt want her to take it

Lois tells her that they have no money

Martha meets Lionel and gets the money

that is all

I know what happend. You don't have to summarize it for me. Yet why did she HAVE to meet him to get the money. Just tell him to send someone to deliver it. Jonathan is getting too much press and I'm sure SOMEONE had to be following her. That just wasn't smart, dude.

Put yourself in that situation and you'll see what I'm talking about. If you're under the public eye would just meet Lionel in some back alley? And, did she even make sure no one was following her? She was just standing there and Lionel's car drove up to her. Then, it took her a couple of seconds to get in. How smart was that, dude? Think about it.

WuTical

01-14-2006, 03:50 AM

I know what happend. You don't have to summarize it for me. Yet why did she HAVE to meet him to get the money. Just tell him to send someone to deliver it. Jonathan is getting too much press and I'm sure SOMEONE had to be following her. That just wasn't smart, dude.

Put yourself in that situation and you'll see what I'm talking about. If you're under the public eye would just meet Lionel in some back alley? And, did she even make sure no one was following her? She was just standing there and Lionel's car drove up to her. Then, it took her a couple of seconds to get in. How smart was that, dude? Think about it.
you'll thinking way too much

HeadHunter

01-14-2006, 07:09 PM

you know...at the end of that episode Clark looks like he is wearing pink lipstick!

boydston_14

01-14-2006, 08:12 PM

WuTical

01-15-2006, 03:49 PM

Episode 101: "Vengeance" Poster and Description

http://www.kryptonsite.com/vengposter.jpg

CLARK MEETS A FEMALE AVENGER — Clark (Tom Welling) discovers the new reporter at the Daily Planet, a bespectacled, bumbling woman named Maya (Denise Quinones, former “Miss Universe”), is actually a masked avenger who fights crime at night. Meanwhile, Clark’s bottled-up grief threatens to get the best of him.

WuTical

01-15-2006, 03:56 PM

if you don't wanna know who dies in episode 100, don't read this

Lana dies

Tornado

01-15-2006, 04:03 PM

if you don't wanna know who dies in episode 100, don't read this

Lana dies

That's never been confirmed. At this point, the only people who know are the producers. I've heard that even the actors haven't been told (meaning they probably shot multiple versions of the ending).

Freelow

01-15-2006, 05:49 PM

if you don't wanna know who dies in episode 100, don't read this

Lana dies

I really wouldn;t be too upset if it were that person. It would be a nice way to push Clark to become the superman that Jor El wants.

HeadHunter

01-15-2006, 06:14 PM

Clark should go dark for a season...that would spice things up :D

Rogue

01-15-2006, 11:12 PM

I really hope Lana dies. It wouldn't bother me none. Makes me wonder what they'd do with the whole Lana murdering that chick. Eh, hope I got my storyline right. I'm just now getting back into Smallville so forgive me. ;)

Freelow

01-16-2006, 07:16 AM

Well, Comics Continuum has eliminated two people who could have died in episode 100.

Comics Continuum has images from Vengeance, which is to air on February 2, 2006, one week after the death episode Reckoning. The images show Lana kissing Clark and Chloe talking with Clark. I am going to be disappointed if it is Jonathon that dies in episode 100.

Here is the link http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0601/15/index.htm

Tornado

01-16-2006, 07:34 AM

bbf2

01-16-2006, 07:34 AM

Here's what really happens:

Lana dies in a car crash. Clark pleads with Jor-El to spare her life. Jor-El agrees, but says something to the extent of "If I do, someone else will die and you can't reverse that one." So then Lana is revived, and then Jonathan dies from a heart attack caused by the campaign. So technically both the Lana dies and Jonathan dies spoilers are correct, as well as the "Lana's alive at the end" spoilers.

Know what I really don't like about this series? How freaking Jor-El is able to have so much power over the Earth. He isn't ANYTHING! He's just somebody's memories in a tube. Why does he have so much power over the Earth and life?

Neverending

01-16-2006, 03:23 PM

boydston_14

01-16-2006, 05:34 PM

If anyone wants to be spoiled....here it is.

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YUHF3JC23SKQ0NV36U4PNPVC6 Someone on the Hype posted this, and everyone's gone crazy since.

insaneMoViEgoer

01-16-2006, 06:43 PM

article on Marsters return:

Brainiac is coming back, and he's looking to enlist an unwitting Lex Luthor in making the world kneel before Zod.

James Marsters is set to reprise his role as Dr. Milton Fine, the alter ego of supervillain Brainiac, on "Smallville" later this season. He heads a lineup of guest stars on The WB that also includes "Desperate Housewives" star James Denton, Nick Lachey and Kelly Carlson of "Nip/Tuck."

Marsters will make his return to "Smallville" in an episode called "Hypnotic," scheduled to air in the spring. In it, he'll try to use Lex's (Michael Rosenbaum) fixation on the spaceship as a way to free General Zod from the Forbidden Zone (the general's two cohorts made an appearance in this season's premiere).
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|99582|1|,00.html

Tornado

01-16-2006, 07:18 PM

Holy Jesus! I just watched the famous video (not from the link boydston posted, but I'm guessing it's the same thing). I'm speechless. I truly, truly am. It's not only the tremendous acting, or the great idea for the story, but it's that I never thought we'd see the day where TPTB (the powers that be) used the song 'Requiem for a Dream' in such an important episode.

I keep a running tally on my all-time favorite episodes, from best to worst, all 98 of them thusfar. This is the top ten as of this moment:

1. 503 - Hidden
2. 217 - Rosetta
3. 308 - Shattered
4. 401 - Crusade
5. 301 - Exile
6. 101 - Pilot
7. 422 - Commencement
8. 201 - Vortex
9. 121 - Tempest
10. 501 - Arrival

And I'll be honest, if the rest of 512 - Reckoning is even half as good as that clip is, I'd be completely surprised if it doesn't overtake the #1 spot.

insaneMoViEgoer

01-16-2006, 07:21 PM

i think the song is just a place holder. but i would really love to have that track in the actual episode.

Tornado

01-16-2006, 07:23 PM

I suppose it's possible, but I don't really see a reason not to include it. It fits perfectly with the scenes shown.

boydston_14

01-16-2006, 07:26 PM

I suppose it's possible, but I don't really see a reason not to include it. It fits perfectly with the scenes shown.

Exactly. I think if they have something else it won't be as good, but it will still be awesome nonetheless. And, by the way, I'm pretty sure it's the same video that I posted.

Tornado

01-16-2006, 07:37 PM

Exactly. I think if they have something else it won't be as good, but it will still be awesome nonetheless.

Yeah.

As much as I (I'm just going to tag the rest of this, it applies to the video, so it's all spoilers obviously) opposed the notion of Lana dying, I find myself liking it more and more now for numerous reasons. One, being that maybe Clark and Chloe can go out now (although, I've always felt that Clark should get over Lana on his own, not because she dies, but it could be worse).

Two, I've gotten a little tired of this off and on again friendship between Clark and Lex. But, if Clark blames Lex for the death of Lana (which is of course very feasible, she wouldn't have been speeding away and she would have been paying attention to the road if Lex had not been chasing her) then the friendship is definitely over, no second chances.

And third, it keeps a few of my more favored characters (Chloe, Jonathan, Martha, and even Lionel) safe for another day. I'd much rather see a character like Lana die than someone with character like Chloe. Although, I've been hearing a lot about some time travel theory, where Clark takes Lana to the FOS and pleads with Jor-El for her life (how he is so powerful without actually being alive, is something I'll probably never understand), and then they travel back in time to a point in which Clark never told Lana his secret, and never proposed to her either, meaning she wouldn't have a reason to be speeding away from Lex. But then Jonathan would die later in the episode, or something like that.

Who knows? I'll guess we'll find out in about two weeks. It'll feel like a lifetime though, I'm sure of that.

boydston_14

01-16-2006, 07:41 PM

I've heard those rumors, too. I guess now the Drunken Lex rumors are true, but what about the dead Jonathan rumors? Could we possibly have Lana and Jonathan dying in the same episode? There's enough drama already, but I really like the ideas that are circulating right now.I also agree with the Clark/Lex idea, and I think it would be ruined with Lana coiming back. And one last thing: the look on Lex's face is priceless!

WuTical

01-17-2006, 12:18 AM

holy **** @ Lex Seeing What Clark Did...100th Episode Hurry The **** Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neverending

01-17-2006, 02:54 AM

All this is very interesting.

bbf2

01-17-2006, 05:06 AM

Although, I've been hearing a lot about some time travel theory, where Clark takes Lana to the FOS and pleads with Jor-El for her life (how he is so powerful without actually being alive, is something I'll probably never understand), and then they travel back in time to a point in which Clark never told Lana his secret, and never proposed to her either, meaning she wouldn't have a reason to be speeding away from Lex. But then Jonathan would die later in the episode, or something like that.

This is pretty much confirmed. Also, Lana appears in later episodes.

Tornado

01-17-2006, 07:34 AM

Also, Lana appears in later episodes.

Actually, she's not mentioned in any of the spoilers for episodes after 512 - Reckoning. She's listed in one of the cast sheets, but so is everybody else, so that doesn't really mean anything.

boydston_14

01-17-2006, 11:11 AM

Actually, I think that Clark Begs Jor-El to revive Jonathan, after seeing the pics at the SHH! boards.

Neverending

01-17-2006, 10:16 PM

Why is it a spoiler that Jonathan will die? It isn't the first time, you know? Most people predicted that a long time ago. The real question is why Jor-El is such a prick on this show.

OBSERVER

01-18-2006, 12:43 AM

You can't help to be suspicious of the actor of Zod voicing Jor-El.

Klimber

01-18-2006, 01:49 PM

The other day I saw a made for TV movie called The Dukes of Hazzard: Hazzard in Hollywood. I don't know if any of you have seen this but it cam out in 2000 and had just about all the original cast returning (of course Denver Pyle (Uncle Jessie) and Sorrell Booke (Boss Hogg) had passed away) to reprise their Duke roles. It was pretty campy but funny to see Bo and Luke still wearing the unbuttoned flannel shirts some 20 years after the original series. Funny to think that John Schnider was just months away from making his major come back as Jonathon Kent. Ha Ha.

Neverending

01-19-2006, 02:31 AM

You can't help to be suspicious of the actor of Zod voicing Jor-El.

lol. Yeah, I wrote something about that in the previous page. I would laugh my ass off if I saw Terrance Stamp play General Zod on Smallville. I don't know why but the image of Stamp telling Tom Welling, "Come to me, Superman! I defy you! Come and kneel before Zod!" is funny.

"I am General Zod. Your ruler. Yes, today begins a new order. Your lands, your possessions, your very lives, will gladly be given in tribute to me, General Zod! In return for your obedience you will enjoy my generous protection. In other words you will be allowed to live."

"Come to me, son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!"

"And now... finally. Take my hand and swear eternal loyalty to Zod."

Neverending

01-19-2006, 02:36 AM

I just thought of something. When they finally decide to end the show they should have Clark turn into Superman fight General Zod in the middle of streets.

BEST. SERIES. FINALE. EVER.

insaneMoViEgoer

01-19-2006, 01:17 PM

lol. Yeah, I wrote something about that in the previous page. I would laugh my ass off if I saw Terrance Stamp play General Zod on Smallville. I don't know why but the image of Stamp telling Tom Welling, "Come to me, Superman! I defy you! Come and kneel before Zod!" is funny.

"I am General Zod. Your ruler. Yes, today begins a new order. Your lands, your possessions, your very lives, will gladly be given in tribute to me, General Zod! In return for your obedience you will enjoy my generous protection. In other words you will be allowed to live."

"Come to me, son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!"

"And now... finally. Take my hand and swear eternal loyalty to Zod."
my personal favorite would be: "Why do you say this to me when you know i will kill you for it?" :D

WuTical

01-19-2006, 04:12 PM

I just thought of something. When they finally decide to end the show they should have Clark turn into Superman fight General Zod in the middle of streets.

BEST. SERIES. FINALE. EVER.
word is that General Zod is suppose to be in the season finale for this season

boydston_14

01-19-2006, 06:55 PM

word is that General Zod is suppose to be in the season finale for this season

I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wanna see that!!

Rogue

01-19-2006, 08:33 PM

I can't wait to see what happens..

Tornado

01-19-2006, 09:19 PM

511 - Lockdown

That was a pretty decent episode, but I didn't really like how they dealt with Sheriff Nancy's death though. I didn't mind the idea, it kind of makes sense, but she's been around since the end of season two. You'd think there'd be a little more... effort shown for the passing of a regular series guest. But I still liked the episode all around, the show is starting to get away from being very Clark-centric with him using his powers once or twice every five minutes, and I kind of like that to be honest. Don't get me wrong, Clark is still by far my favorite character, but it was kind of nice seeing a Jonathan-themed episode last week, and then a more Lex and Lana one tonight.

7/10

--------------------------------

Can't wait for 512 - Reckoning next week. Should be awesome.

Rogue

01-19-2006, 09:33 PM

Lex asking if he'd look better with hair completely cracked me up. Poor Chloe. It just made me feel bad for he when she was talking to Clark about Lana.

Neverending

01-19-2006, 09:34 PM

Yeah, it was a pretty good episode. The only thing that bothered was that Lex didn't call the police. He could have used his cellphone to call the police and inform them that two people dressed as police officers were shooting his security and that he was locked in his bunker. But whatever.

Anyway, looks like I was some-what correct about what causes Jonathan's heart attack. Anyone saw the preview for episode 100 tonight? There showed a quick shot of a fist-fight between Lionel and Jonathan. Interesting...

boydston_14

01-19-2006, 10:12 PM

Neverending

01-19-2006, 10:51 PM

Yeah, they've had pics at K-Site for a while now. I can't wait til next week, should be awesome.

I didn't know that.

Lex asking if he'd look better with hair completely cracked me up. Poor Chloe. It just made me feel bad for he when she was talking to Clark about Lana.

I always feel bad for Chloe. She is the most sexually frustrated character on the show. Clark should make her happy one day and give her some love.

word is that General Zod is suppose to be in the season finale for this season

If this is true, then they better not screw it up. The fight scenes Clark has had with other Kyrptonians has been extremely lame. If Zod is on, then I want a Superman II-style fight scene.

insaneMoViEgoer

01-20-2006, 01:49 AM

interview with exec producer Alfred Gough from kryptonsite:

We've been fortunate enough to interview Smallville Executive Producer Alfred Gough about the upcoming 100th episode of the series. The interview contains some talk about the events of the January 26 show and offers some hints about what's to come later in the season, so be warned of spoilers.

Enjoy the interview!

KRYPTONSITE: In several interviews you've talked about a plan or a general outline you've had for the show. Were the events of the 100th episode always part of the plan?

EXECUTIVE PRODUCER ALFRED GOUGH: They were, actually.

K-SITE: How will Clark be changed by the death in episode 100?

GOUGH: It's definitely going to force him to take a look at his life, and realize that the decisions you could make as a high school kid and the decisions you make as a young adult are vastly different, and it's a step closer from becoming the Superboy to Superman.

K-SITE: How do you feel the Clark and Lana relationship has worked this season now that they've finally gotten together?

GOUGH: I think so far, I think it's worked well. It's probably worked better than any other season, just 'cause you put 'em together, they have sex, he gets his powers back, so he clearly then hasn't been with her, which is what we're playing now, and then, guess what? It's going to go horribly awry, because he has honesty issues, and he wants to get laid. And then also, you've got Lex who's out there really, now that the gloves are kind of off with Clark, his feelings for Lana are an issue as well, so this relationship's got a lot to battle. Clark can either step up, or step aside.

K-SITE: Why has it taken so long for Clark to just tell Lana his secret?

GOUGH: I think there's always an issue of, you've got a couple super hero dilemmas. One is can the person take it? Will they look at you as a freak, and run the other way? Two is, girlfriend to super hero. Always in a lot of trouble. And that would only get worse, especially if she knew the secret. And thirdly, I think there's always the question of 'is she really the one?' You know, which we from the comics know that ultimately she isn't. You know, there are the mistakes you make in your first relationship that'll have reverberations through the ones you have after that.

K-SITE: With Clark apparently getting engaged, when is Chloe ever going to get any love?

GOUGH: Always a good question. I'm not sure. [laughs]

K-SITE: In TV Guide it was mentioned that another "major" player is on the way out, too. Does this mean more than one regular cast member will be leaving, or will we just have to wait and see?

GOUGH: Maybe.

K-SITE: A lot of fans are excited to see James Marsters will be coming back. What do we have to look forward to with that?

GOUGH: His plan is to release Zod from the Phantom Zone. He sort of made that crystal clear when he was in the Fortress. So he's going to be back, and his first attempt was foiled, but now he's got a bigger, badder attempt and it involves Lex as well, which obviously makes Clark's life much more difficult. So he's back and badder than ever.

K-SITE: Can you tease anything specific from #100 that the fans will particularly love?

GOUGH: [Silence] Good question. A lot of great stuff in the episode, but I don't want to spoil anything, because that's what spoiler pages are for. [pause] I think they'll like the way the character dies. How's that? [laughs]

K-SITE: Do you have a favorite episode of the hundred that you've done so far?

GOUGH: I don't have one particular favorite. I have favorites that are in there from each season. Obviously Rosetta, because of Christopher Reeve. I think Memoria, too, is a favorite. I really liked Run, where we introduce the Flash. I thought that was the best introduction of a DC character. I still really like Nicodemus, actually. I saw that again on ABC Family over the holidays. I hadn't seen it, quite frankly, since it aired. And I really like, from the first season, I really like Stray, too. The first one with Ryan.

K-SITE: Will Terence Stamp's Jor-El character factor into the 100th episode?

GOUGH: Yes, he will.

K-SITE: I read recently that we may actually be able to see Jor-El on the show. Has that restriction from the movie people been lifted?

GOUGH: It's an ongoing conversation. It's something that we hope to do. But it's not only the movie people, it's Terence's schedule and quite frankly how it fits into the storytelling.

K-SITE: So he would play Jor-El?

GOUGH: That will be the plan.

K-SITE: Is there anything that you wish you had done differently in the show's first 100 episodes?

GOUGH: That's hard to say, because I think every season you look back and there are things you like about the season and things you don't. So I can't point to one thing in particular and say gosh, I wish we'd done that. I think things we've wanted to do, we've been able to do, and you learn from your mistakes, and as the show matures you always try to play to its strengths and try not to repeat things that you watched going horribly awry. Like, you know, aging babies that explode. WTF? You know. [laughs]

K-SITE: Will we be seeing any more actors from previous Superman TV series or movies, or characters from the comics, anytime soon?

GOUGH: There's always a possibility. We have Cyborg coming up in episode 15, and there could be an appearance by General Zod.

K-SITE: Will yourself and Miles Millar be writing another episode anytime soon?

GOUGH: Quite frankly, we have our hands tied. We're still involved in all the episodes and the story breaking and things like that, but we're now heavily involved in Aquaman, so that's kind of taking all of our writing duties. We wanted to write the 100th episode, and then once Aquaman came together, we realized we couldn't do that. Miles wanted to direct another one this year as well. But we're fortunate that we have a fantastic writing staff. Souders and Peterson, and Slavkin and Swimmer, and Steve DeKnight, and the other staff. They do terrific work week after week, so we couldn't be happier with the staff that we have.

K-SITE: Will the Aquaman series take place in the Smallville universe? Is there any chance of a crossover?

GOUGH: Will we crossover? My guess is down the road, perhaps there will be some crossover. I don't think in the first season, but don't hold me to that, that could all change. I think you have to establish a show on its own terms before you could start to do that kind of stuff. It's not like a Buffy/Angel thing where you're spinning a character that you've lived with in one show into another show, so it feels obvious that you cross people over.

K-SITE: Why do you think Season Five has received a good critical & ratings reaction?

GOUGH: You know, the ratings reaction - I couldn't tell you. I think Lost and Top Model were really hurting us, and I think it's more than that too. I think people, for whatever reasons, I think have tuned back into the show. Creatively, you always try to do a great season regardless of if your numbers reflect that or not. West Wing's having a terrific season, and the numbers certainly don't reflect that. But I think for us this year is we allowed the characters to grow up. They're not in high school anymore, they're young adults. The issues are more complex. Things don't get resolved necessarily at the end of every episode. I think we've gotten a lot better at the continuing arcs of a continuity, which is something that we definitely wanted to play more this year, and also not dragging out storylines, like the whole Jason/mother/crystal storyline which sort of got dragged out in Season 4.

That's why with Brainiac, we wanted to have one plan, that got foiled, and now he's going to come back with another plan. And we've made allusions to Professor Fine, and he's not around, and the ship's missing, and they're looking for it. You can keep a story alive without having to cut to the character, and I think that's certainly something we learned last year with the whole crystal story. I think this year we've allowed the characters to grow up. Obviously, the older the show gets the closer it gets to Superman, so I think you feel a lot more of the Superman mythology in the show, which I think the fans really like. I know Miles and I really enjoy it. The things that we've been teeing up for four years, I think this year have started to happen. Like, the real deterioration of Clark and Lex's friendship. Not like "we're not friends." Four episodes later. "Okay, we're friends again." So all that stuff is playing out, and finally you can play the Clark/Lex/Lana triangle too.

K-SITE: When is Lex going to get better security in his mansion?

GOUGH: That's a very good question. We at least acknowledged it in Fanatic, which I thought it was funny.

K-SITE: You've got a defined goal for Clark and Lex. Do you have a defined goal for where Lois will end up?

GOUGH: We do. Lois has always been interesting because we don't want to rub up against the movie too much, so there have been certain restrictions on Lois and Clark's relationship that we'd love to play out that we hope, once the movie is out, we'll be able to do. But yes, we have a plan for Lois, but then we have an alternate plan as well. [laughs]

We'd like to thank Al Gough and Warner Bros. Television for the time in doing this interview.

GreenvilleTexan

01-20-2006, 09:57 AM

You know, I think this is going to sound really stupid, but I am beginning to wonder if Jor-El's character is really all that evil. It seems like he is just wanting Clark to embrace the fact that he is, indeed, Kryptonian and that he has a greater destiny, possibly as a hero to his adopted homeworld. Unless I am wrong, Jor-El has never said he would kill someone close to Clark, he has only said by not accepting his destiny, someone close to Clark was going to die. I always got the impression that Jor-El was telling Clark to go ahead and become the hero he was meant to be and, by doing so, he would gain those abilities he would need to save those he loved. Granted, he is being cryptic as hell if that is the case ...

HeadHunter

01-20-2006, 10:07 AM

when the new ep shown?

GreenvilleTexan

01-20-2006, 11:03 AM

Thursday nights at 7 p.m., Central time

HeadHunter

01-20-2006, 11:43 AM

Thursday nights at 7 p.m., Central time

So it was on Last night...Cool

Neverending

01-21-2006, 02:30 AM

My favorite part of the interview is that he doesn't know why the ratings are higher. It's because they are getting closer to SUPERMAN. This is honestly the first season of Smallville in which I've seen all the episodes. In the past I only saw episodes that interested me like Chris Reeve guest spot and Lois Lane introduction. And, that's because I never really cared about the smallville aspect of Superman's origin. But, now since they are getting closer to Clark becoming Superman, the show is becoming more interesting. And thats really why more people are watching.

Rogue

01-21-2006, 04:57 AM

I always feel bad for Chloe. She is the most sexually frustrated character on the show. Clark should make her happy one day and give her some love.

No kidding. I'd love to see anyone with Clark but Lana. She just pisses me off. I can't stand her. It's always gotta be about her. Bugs me for some reason. I'd love to see Chloe and Clark get together. Or Clark and Lois..duh haha. They're cute together.

Tornado

01-21-2006, 11:18 AM

GreenvilleTexan

01-21-2006, 11:25 AM

I always feel bad for Chloe. She is the most sexually frustrated character on the show. Clark should make her happy one day and give her some love.

I also agree that Chloe needs some lovin'. Not only is she second in "boobage" to Lois, she advertises a LOT in most of the outfits she wears and she has to listen to Clark's whining about his sex life with Lana 24 hours a day.
One of these day she is just going to go postal and nail Perry White or something ...:cool:

Neverending

01-21-2006, 02:05 PM

No kidding. I'd love to see anyone with Clark but Lana. She just pisses me off. I can't stand her. It's always gotta be about her. Bugs me for some reason. I'd love to see Chloe and Clark get together. Or Clark and Lois..duh haha. They're cute together.

Yeah, they do spend too much time with the Clark and Lana relationship. We've all known that relationship was doomed from day one. lol. They should have just had Clark date both Lana and Chloe and have him fail and make stupid mistakes in both relationships. Then,when Lois comes into the picture everything changes. He feels a stronger bond, doesn't make the same mistakes he made in the past, and when he does make a mistake Lois is not bothered by it and understands.

I also agree that Chloe needs some lovin'. Not only is she second in "boobage" to Lois, she advertises a LOT in most of the outfits she wears and she has to listen to Clark's whining about his sex life with Lana 24 hours a day.
One of these day she is just going to go postal and nail Perry White or something ...:cool:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/movie_pix/comic_con/comic_con_2004_photos/_group_photos/allison_mack10.jpg
#2? I thought Martha Kent was #2 :P
http://www.smallvillevirtuality.com/superthoughts/clarklana.jpg

WuTical

01-21-2006, 03:17 PM

For the sake of discussion, does anybody else keep a running tally on how you've ranked the episodes? Or is it just me? ;)

My Top Ten (all five seasons)

1. 503 - Hidden
2. 217 - Rosetta
3. 308 - Shattered
4. 401 - Crusade
5. 301 - Exile
6. 101 - Pilot
7. 422 - Commencement
8. 201 - Vortex
9. 121 - Tempest
10. 501 - Arrival

my top 10 episodes so far (in no particular order)

401: Crusade
210: Skinwalker
405: Run
503: Hidden
101: Pilot
223: Exodus
422: Commencement
204: Red
301: Exile
419: Blank

cool_chik

01-22-2006, 12:17 AM

I just started watching this new season of Smallville. It's really good!

Tornado

01-22-2006, 08:57 AM

my top 10 episodes so far (in no particular order)

401: Crusade
210: Skinwalker
405: Run
503: Hidden
101: Pilot
223: Exodus
422: Commencement
204: Red
301: Exile
419: Blank

Those are all pretty solid, but I'm not sure about 210 - Skinwalker. That ranks in at #57 on my list (yeah, I've ranked all 99 thusfar), and that's being generous as far as I'm concerned. There are a few reasons for this:

- I hated Kyla
- this was the first episode that dealt with the all the Native American jibber jabber, that's always annoyed me
- the whole Animorphing into wolves that Joseph and Kyla could do took me back to the days of the whole 'Freak of the Week' section of the show's history

I've only seen the episode twice, once was when it first broadcasted. The second time was on DVD, just to make sure the disc worked.

GreenvilleTexan

01-22-2006, 10:56 AM

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/movie_pix/comic_con/comic_con_2004_photos/_group_photos/allison_mack10.jpg
#2? I thought Martha Kent was #2 :P
http://www.smallvillevirtuality.com/superthoughts/clarklana.jpg
Yep, I believe you're right. I forgot about Martha Kent's ... She may actually be No. 1, but I have to take off one point for gravity. Definitely a MILF though ...

Neverending

01-22-2006, 07:40 PM

Yep, I believe you're right. I forgot about Martha Kent's ... She may actually be No. 1, but I have to take off one point for gravity. Definitely a MILF though ...

Yeah, she's a MILF. But, when she was young she was really hot! Look at some of her early films like Superman III for instance. She looks incredible.

boydston_14

01-22-2006, 09:29 PM

Man, this week should be pretty good. First, I ordered Superman: The Movie at walmart.com then Reckoning finally airs. Sweet!

Tornado

01-23-2006, 05:05 PM

Titles for two upcoming episodes are now known:

517 - Void
518 - Fragile

I'm guessing 517 - Void will be about the absense of the main character dying in 512, but I have no idea what 518 - Fragile could be about.

Roy_Bluth

01-24-2006, 08:49 AM

3 days and 12 hours. If I did my math right.

Hey boydston, I saw the trailor, refering to your spoiler on your posts, what do you think will happen with that?

Klimber

01-24-2006, 01:56 PM

After Reading the news bit about the Wb to CW conversion:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=12867

Man, I sure hope that they do do something stupid like putting Smallville on a bad night. Sweating it out as to what happens post WB?

insaneMoViEgoer

01-24-2006, 02:28 PM

boydston_14

01-24-2006, 05:17 PM

3 days and 12 hours. If I did my math right.

Hey boydston, I saw the trailor, refering to your spoiler on your posts, what do you think will happen with that?

If they take the easy way out, nothing. They could explain it away as Lex being drunk or the so hated theory of time-traveling. Or they could keep it going, I don't know, but I'd have to go with the first one. It's a bit more likely.

Tornado

01-24-2006, 05:45 PM

Hmm... now that I think more about it, I wonder if the 'void' in 517 - Void is actually a reference to the Phantom Zone. In Superman: The Movie, the Phantom Zone is referred to as an 'eternal void'.

Neverending

01-24-2006, 08:01 PM

GreenvilleTexan

01-24-2006, 09:44 PM

I think it can only make for a stronger network, combining the best of both and hopefully getting rid of the crap. But the scheduling is going to be a killer and, sadly, people in the industry are going to lose their jobs.
You would have to assume that Smallville would be one of the flag bearers for the network, going into the fall season after the big success Superman will be in the movies.
It will be interesting to see what will happen to the UPN stations, whether they will just shut down or not, once the switch is made.

Tornado

01-24-2006, 10:43 PM

Out of curiosity, is anybody doing anything... 'special' for Thursday night?

I'll be sitting down to watch it while wearing my Superman tee, and I'm forcing my girlfriend to watch this one with me. She generally opposes watching the show, but when I told her one of the characters is dying she got all excited for some reason. I don't mind too much though, at least I'll have some good company. ;)

GreenvilleTexan

01-24-2006, 10:51 PM

Will she dress up as Chloe, or Lois or ... Mrs. Kent?:omg:

WuTical

01-25-2006, 11:55 AM

can't wait til tomorrow...**** is gonna be great

Freelow

01-25-2006, 12:04 PM

Everybody mark down January 26, 2006.

That is the last day that Tornado will be dating this chick. I'll be sitting down to watch it while wearing my Superman tee, and I'm forcing my girlfriend to watch this one with me.

I predict that her phone number will be changing on Friday morning.;)

insaneMoViEgoer

01-25-2006, 02:23 PM

first review of the 100th episode. possible spoilers ahead
http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3014/

HeadHunter

01-25-2006, 02:40 PM

just saw a preview clip for 100th ep....looks like its going to be good

Karma Dog

01-25-2006, 02:50 PM

just saw a preview clip for 100th ep....looks like its going to be good

where?

HeadHunter

01-25-2006, 02:55 PM

where?

right here (http://www.youtube.com/w/Smallville-%22Reckoning%22-Preview-%28100th-episode%29?v=G_9GXNwt_nc&feature=Views&page=2&t=t&f=b)

Tornado

01-25-2006, 04:42 PM

Everybody mark down January 26, 2006.

That is the last day that Tornado will be dating this chick.

I predict that her phone number will be changing on Friday morning.;)

Hey, she owes me for all the crummy movies I've watched with her. ;)

WuTical

01-26-2006, 11:37 AM

Finally, today has come lol

Angelixx

01-26-2006, 12:41 PM

so is smallville on tonight..on the WB??? cus i just got digitcal and can actually watch it if it is

Klimber

01-26-2006, 01:27 PM

so is smallville on tonight..on the WB??? cus i just got digitcal and can actually watch it if it is

Oh Hell yeah!

Karma Dog

01-26-2006, 01:54 PM

so is smallville on tonight..on the WB??? cus i just got digitcal and can actually watch it if it is

you got digital cable and it doesn't have WB? that's F'd up.

And that preview clip rocked.

Angelixx

01-26-2006, 02:57 PM

you got digital cable and it doesn't have WB? that's F'd up.

no no it does...i just wanted to make sure it was playing on the WB tonight...i just got digital so i do get the WB now

and in response to klimber...i agree....hell yeah ;)

Tornado

01-26-2006, 04:44 PM

I've been waiting for this day for quite some time now, so this should be good. Only about three and a quarter hours from now.

cg124

01-26-2006, 06:06 PM

I'm probally gonna end up missing it tonight, since my dad borrowed "Flight Plan" from a friend and is only borrowing it for one night. Lately smallville has become a show where if I got nothing else to watch, I'll watch it,but if I have to miss it, then well I missed.

boydston_14

01-26-2006, 06:28 PM

I cannot wait! Tonight should be pretty awesome. Like Torn, I too have been waiting to see what they have planned for tonight's episode.

Tornado

01-26-2006, 06:31 PM

Yep, we're really counting down now. About 90 minutes. Oh boy!

boydston_14

01-26-2006, 06:40 PM

Yep, we're really counting down now. About 90 minutes. Oh boy!

Holy crap! I didn't realize it was that close!

insaneMoViEgoer

01-26-2006, 06:47 PM

damn you! i live in the west coast. 4:15hrs for me :(

Tornado

01-26-2006, 07:01 PM

Holy crap! I didn't realize it was that close!

Well, 90 minutes (now down to 57) for me. I live in the Central timezone.

cg124

01-26-2006, 07:59 PM

well I finnished the movie early so I guess I will watch it

Freelow

01-26-2006, 08:32 PM

I really hate time travel BS to fix situations.

D@mn writers.

Tornado

01-26-2006, 08:43 PM

This is pretty good so far. I'm not sure if I like it more than 503 - Hidden yet, but it's certainly right up there. And as far as I'm concerned, Clark (not Kal-El) has now flown. That was much more of a flight than a superjump at the beginning of the episode.

the elmo zombie

01-26-2006, 08:56 PM

martha dies.

Freelow

01-26-2006, 08:57 PM

I liked how the writers tied everyone's action into everyone else's lives.

Lois not hurting herself while reaching for some junk food on top of a bookcase. Lana was there to stop her from falling.

Lana dying in a car accident after being chased by Lex because he could tell that she now knew Clark's secret.

After going back in time, Clark doesn't reveal his secret to Lana so she won't be chased by Lex and die in a car accident.

Lana falls and gets hurt reaching for the junk food.

Lana still almost gets into an accident, but Clark races to save her and stops the bus that would have hit her.

Jonathon dying from a heart attack after beating up Lionel. Before the time travel, Jonathon was at the scene of Lana's accident because he was enroute to meeting Lionel. After the time travel, Lana not getting into the accident allowed Jonathon to meetup with Lionel, which eventually led to his death.

Nice mixing of the lives.

Freelow

01-26-2006, 08:57 PM

martha dies.

Sorry for the double post.

Liar!!!!:nono: :D

cg124

01-26-2006, 09:04 PM

Pretty good episode. Very touching ending

Jason Krueger

01-26-2006, 09:05 PM

*deep breath*

:waa:

It was so good

Tornado

01-26-2006, 09:12 PM

While it wasn't the best episode in my opinion (although, in its defense, it has cracked my top ten) there were certainly a lot of things done very well, but then again there were others that needed improvement. I know that Clark loves Lana, and it made perfect sense for him to become very emotional after her collision, but he showed very little emotion when Jonathan collapsed against the fence. Obviously Clark cares to a certain degree, I just thought he would have been even more upset knowing that he's partially responsible for the death of his father. I was also kind of hoping that when Lana held Clark's hand at the funeral, that Clark would have pulled away from her. At some point or another, Clark is going to have to leave Lana, it can't really be the other way around for numerous reasons. The writing was exceptionally great tonight, especially that last quote from Martha about the whole "a lot of people are going to look up to you," actually really got to me.

10/10

I'm not sure I like the way 513 - Vengeance is looking like it's going to turn out. It looks more like Clark is going out for revenge than anything else. And while that'd be a decent idea for another character, Superman isn't about revenge. He's about justice.

WuTical

01-26-2006, 09:15 PM

Superman isn't about revenge. He's about justice.
he's not Superman yet

and next week looked :omg:

can't wait

Tornado

01-26-2006, 09:17 PM

he's not Superman yet

He's not wearing the tights, but he's pretty damn close to the same way of thinking.

sshuttari

01-26-2006, 09:43 PM

can someone tell me if this is the last season or not... cuz they said leading up to season finale and i thought this was the last season and it was leading up to the movie.

so confused...

Tornado

01-26-2006, 09:48 PM

There have been strong rumors (by Gough and Millar none the less) that there will be a sixth season.

sshuttari

01-26-2006, 09:52 PM

There have been strong rumors (by Gough and Millar none the less) that there will be a sixth season.

thats weird... becuz i swear i heard that this was the final season.

Tornado

01-26-2006, 09:55 PM

I don't think they'd cancel/end the show now. As far as I know, it's the most popular show on the WB (although... as ashamed as I am to say this I think 'Reba' might actually be beating it in the ratings) and there are definitely more stories that can be told.

southern

01-26-2006, 09:57 PM

ok my tv is broke so i didn't get to watch it

who the f died? i read the posts on the last page, so i guess i'm asking if anyone actually did.

Tornado

01-26-2006, 09:59 PM

ok my tv is broke so i didn't get to watch it

who the f died? i read the posts on the last page, so i guess i'm asking if anyone actually did.

In short:

Clark told Lana his secret and proposed. She said yes. Lana died in a car crash. Clark pleaded with Jor-El to reverse it. Lana lived, and time was reset so that Clark never told Lana and never proposed. Later on, Jonathan and Lionel confronted each other in the barn. They fight. Jonathan dies of a heart attack.

I'll go into more detail later if you would like me to, but that's the main idea there.

Neverending

01-26-2006, 10:15 PM

The episode was alright. Too much hype I think. But, seriously, Superman needs to stop going back in time. It's becoming pathetic! First, he turns the world around, then he travels with H.G. Wells, and now this!

Neverending

01-26-2006, 10:16 PM

Oh, and this episode proved one thing. Annette O'Toole is the ONLY one who can act on this show. So many bad performances!

Tornado

01-26-2006, 10:20 PM

Oh, and this episode proved one thing. Annette O'Toole is the ONLY one who can act on this show. So many bad performances!

Pff. Annette is pretty good (other times it's forced coming from her), but she's definitely not the 'only' one who can act on the show. Saying Michael Rosenbaum, or even Tom Welling can't act is a crime.

Neverending

01-26-2006, 10:32 PM

Pff. Annette is pretty good (other times it's forced coming from her), but she's definitely not the 'only' one who can act on the show. Saying Michael Rosenbaum, or even Tom Welling can't act is a crime.

Maybe I'm just being hard on Tom because I'm comparing him to Chris Reeve. Remember in Superman `78 when Lois died and Reeve gave that powerful scream? Why couldn't we see some of that here? I felt Tom was pretty dry during both deaths.

southern

01-26-2006, 10:41 PM

In short:

Clark told Lana his secret and proposed. She said yes. Lana died in a car crash. Clark pleaded with Jor-El to reverse it. Lana lived, and time was reset so that Clark never told Lana and never proposed. Later on, Jonathan and Lionel confronted each other in the barn. They fight. Jonathan dies of a heart attack.

I'll go into more detail later if you would like me to, but that's the main idea there.
oh, thank you.

was it a 2-parter?

insaneMoViEgoer

01-27-2006, 12:35 AM

Maybe I'm just being hard on Tom because I'm comparing him to Chris Reeve. Remember in Superman `78 when Lois died and Reeve gave that powerful scream? Why couldn't we see some of that here? I felt Tom was pretty dry during both deaths.
he did it for Alicia.

bbf2

01-27-2006, 06:34 AM

Eh...seemed kinda off to me. The impact of Jonathan's death was really lessened by all the Lana dying/Lana not dying stuff beforehand. It was almost like Clark was out of grief to spare after the Lana debactle and could only afford to stand there solemnly after Bo's death. Kinda redundant there.

Oh, and how the HELL does Jor-El, a disembodied spirit or voice recording or something, have the ability to A) control fate and probability so a certain person gets hit by a car, B) Cause someone to have a heart attack and C) turn back time? Why? Why? He's dead, he shouldn't even be able to have conversations, much less alter the fabric of the Earth.

With that said, it was very well written and well acted.

Spirited Away

01-27-2006, 07:42 AM

thats weird... becuz i swear i heard that this was the final season.
The CW are going to keep the show for next year - it's the WB's second top-rated show, only just after Gimore Girls.

Gough and Miller have said the story of Smallville is seven seasons long, so i'd expect two more seasons. The next would probably begin to build on Clark and Lois's relationship, with the final season being the introduction of the cape.

Ideally, the final scene would be like Spider-man 2's ending, where Clark would rip open his shirt to reveal his suit, getting ready to fly, and Lois is in the bedroom smiling at him. She says "Go get them, Smallville", and Superman jumps out the apartment window, flying over Metropolis.

Spirited Away

01-27-2006, 07:45 AM

spoiler]He's dead, he shouldn't even be able to have conversations, much less alter the fabric of the Earth.[/spoiler]
Although he's dead, the producers have been trying so hard to get it so Jor-El has a physical form - the upcoming movie however prevents them from using any footage other than Marlon Brando, who is not Jor-El in Smallville.

GreenvilleTexan

01-27-2006, 08:54 AM

Great episode!
I think Clark was just too numb with grief and guilt to even respond to Lana. I don't think Clark will go for revenge on his own. He may want to, but won't until whoever it is who shows up in the next episode goads him into it somehow.

GreenvilleTexan

01-27-2006, 09:13 AM

[QUOTE=bbf2]Eh...seemed kinda off to me. The impact of Jonathan's death was really lessened by all the Lana dying/Lana not dying stuff beforehand. It was almost like Clark was out of grief to spare after the Lana debactle and could only afford to stand there solemnly after Bo's death. Kinda redundant there.

Oh, and how the HELL does Jor-El, a disembodied spirit or voice recording or something, have the ability to A) control fate and probability so a certain person gets hit by a car, B) Cause someone to have a heart attack and C) turn back time? Why? Why? He's dead, he shouldn't even be able to have conversations, much less alter the fabric of the Earth.
Sorry if this ends up as a double post, but Jor-El never said he was the one doing the killing. He has said someone close to Clark would die. I really believe that Jor-El has been trying to do one of those "with great power comes great responsibility lessons" on Clark and that Clark keeps refusing to listen. Heck, Jor-El even warns him that the crystal he had could only be used once and that someone else was going to die if he saved Lana. I like Jor-El!
I was also worried there for a moment that we were headed for one of those Spider Man 2 Peter and Aunt May moments when Martha tells Clark that it wasn't his fault. Plus, what was on that photo? Did Martha give it up to Lionel for the $? Hey, if I'm Jonathon, it would make me want to beat the crap out of Lionel, and then have a heart attack.

sshuttari

01-27-2006, 12:43 PM

The CW are going to keep the show for next year - it's the WB's second top-rated show, only just after Gimore Girls.

Gough and Miller have said the story of Smallville is seven seasons long, so i'd expect two more seasons. The next would probably begin to build on Clark and Lois's relationship, with the final season being the introduction of the cape.

Ideally, the final scene would be like Spider-man 2's ending, where Clark would rip open his shirt to reveal his suit, getting ready to fly, and Lois is in the bedroom smiling at him. She says "Go get them, Smallville", and Superman jumps out the apartment window, flying over Metropolis.

i dont think its going to go down like that. Most you will see is clark finally coming to understanding that he is superman and him and Louise being more friendly towards one another, while Lana will move on persuit something else. or stay in smallville. Oh and Clohe will end up dieing by the last season.

Klimber

01-27-2006, 03:19 PM

Good Episode but I thought the whole part about the coal turning into a cut diamond was silly. The rest of the episode was great. So does this mean the Lex gets the Senator spot by default??

WuTical

01-27-2006, 03:40 PM

Good Episode but I thought the whole part about the coal turning into a cut diamond was silly. The rest of the episode was great. So does this mean the Lex gets the Senator spot by default??
from the spoilers i have read, Martha is the new Senator

true fan11212

01-27-2006, 05:54 PM

^That makes no sense! Anyway, the snow & music at the end was a little much. I know they were trying to make it moody but I've been to a funeral and all you need is to see the Casket go into the ground. Other than that, great episode. This is definitely turning out to be Smallville's best season.

EnderDeschain

01-28-2006, 04:00 AM

I never watched an episode until Thursday, the 100th one. Well, that isn't true, I caught one or two before, but I was never really sold on it. I don't know why. As someone who used to collect every single Superman title for years (and there were quite a few), I should have been on-board with Smallville from the beginning. But for some reason I wasn't. The news of Spike's role piqued my interest and made me want to check it out. I saw the ass-end of the episode where he showed up, the one that was what, three weeks ago?

Anyway, good friggin' show, I thought. The time-travel bit is a bit tired, but when used right (like here) that doesn't matter so much. It was somewhat aggravating that Clark handled the situation in entirely the wrong way, but that's what moves plots along, right?

The thing that really got me and ensured that I'll be there next week was Lex. I like that guy. I identify with that guy entirely too much. And the reason I'm posting this is that I'm a little confused as to how this ties in to comic book continuity. I know it's supposed to be a little different, but I thought nothing was going to really deviate from what's established in the comics. The big death in this episode strays pretty far from that. So does this take place in it's own little universe like an Elseworlds tale, or what? I should know these things, I guess, but I don't.

I'm looking forward to seeing Spike. I'm also looking forward to seeing more of Lex. It's sad that I took so long to tune in. I think I have a lot of DVD purchasing to do in my near future.

insaneMoViEgoer

01-28-2006, 11:55 AM

i would advise you to buy the dvds asap. i just saw them on sale for $24 a piece at target.

and Smallville is more or less it's own continuity.

HeadHunter

01-28-2006, 07:47 PM

Good Episode but I thought the whole part about the coal turning into a cut diamond was silly. The rest of the episode was great. So does this mean the Lex gets the Senator spot by default??

I have noticed that happens alot when people use superhuman strength on coal....a cut diamond.....:confused:

Ravn

01-29-2006, 04:24 PM

They should make a Chloe spin-off!