Smallville

[Angelixx]

all i gotta say is.....go clark he finally scored

[Tornado]

I'm sort of getting back into this show, looking forward to Wednesday.

[HeadHunter]

yeah that happened to my mate too....he sorta went off it during S4 but now is getting back in to it

[Klimber]

I'm sort of getting back into this show, looking forward to Wednesday.

Is yours still on Wednesday? US it plays on Thursdays.

[Tornado]

Is yours still on Wednesday? US it plays on Thursdays.

I think it's on Wednesdays here. Maybe I'm wrong and it really is Thursday.

*checks something*

Yeah, you're right, it's Thursday. I checked the date on my post about the last episode.

[Klimber]

I just didn't want you to miss it, Brother

Uh ok I have been hanging out in the lost forum a little too much.

[cg124]

**** I forgot to watch last weeks episode of smallville

[insaneMoViEgoer]

you can always find other means for watching the episode.

[cg124]

I'm sure when they'll play it again sometime. All I know about it is that clark and lana get it on.

[GreenvilleTexan]

Yeah, way to go Clark! About time. But didn't he do it during his "honeymoon"? Or were we just led to believe that?
And I am also getting back into the show again, now that they have gotten off the tatoos, witches and caves stuff.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

during his honeymoon, Alicia took off the red k before annything happened.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

yahoo has a very spoilerish clip up.

http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/smallville.html

[Tornado]

Wow, that looked really awesome, now I've gotta watch tomorrow night. Who do you guys think it will be?

[HeadHunter]

holy **** that was great....looks like its the end for Jonathen Kent

[Klimber]

**** I forgot to watch last weeks episode of smallville

Smallville Recap (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=81)

[boydston_14]

holy **** that was great....looks like its the end for Jonathen Kent

About time. I wondered if/when they were going to do that.

[HeadHunter]

About time. I wondered if/when they were going to do that.


I figured it wouldnt be till the end of the series

[insaneMoViEgoer]

About time. I wondered if/when they were going to do that.
i dont think it's going to be him. he still has a few episodes left in his contract.

[HeadHunter]

i dont think it's going to be him. he still has a few episodes left in his contract.


My mate instantly said Pete...but then again he might have been joking....cause he instantly decided he didnt know any pete untill I told him that he chased him off.....it was a very odd convo!

[insaneMoViEgoer]

i've been hearing pete as well. that would be so dissapointing.

[Klimber]

I would be fine with killing off Pete. It shatters all that is know about Superman lore but sure why not.

[boydston_14]

i dont think it's going to be him. he still has a few episodes left in his contract.

OOOOHHHH. So they're going to kill someone off in THIS episode, or in another one a few weeks down the line? Is anyone sure?

[Karma Dog]

first, why would they kill pete??? he moved away. what's clark going to do? say, "Oh well my buddy left because of me, why don't you go kill him."

second, if it is Jon Kent, then there's nothing to say it won't be left until the season finale, which they've said will be the biggest episode ever....

[insaneMoViEgoer]

but from the sounds of it, it's going to happen right away.

[Tornado]

What a great episode. Reminds me of why I was such a big fan of this show in the first place.

[Freelow]

The first 10 minutes of the show were priceless. Clark trying to sneak Lana out of his bedroom so his parents don't find out that they spent the night together. They get caught just as they walk by the kitchen because Ma and Pa were already up having breakfast. A very funny scene.

I like how Lionel, one of the more ruthless characters in the Smallville universe, was used as the vessel for Jor El to communicate with Clark.

Can't really say that Clark flew this episode. It looked like he jumped reeeeeeeally high to get onto the nuclear missile to disable it.

The best overall way to describe the whole show - welcome to Smallville Kal El.

[boydston_14]

Will we find out who dies next week? I hope so.

[Alien]

Someone dies?! I donno who I want to die, I like 'em all. Jonathan should see Superman before he dies...

[beyond_th3]

no tights no flight my a**!! What a great episode and we finally got a peek at clark kent semi-flying.

[Klimber]

That was cool but you would think the damage that CK was doing to the hull of the nuke would at least in some way breach the flow of the fuel to stem it out the side and ion to him self. Also I would have loved to see him riding the disabled war head back down to earth all Steve Buscemi Armageddon style.

How is it that during all the seasons of Smallville no one ever mention that there were nuke in the fields of the Smallville farms? With all the evil FOTW plots and the high school IT guy takes over a silo. WTF?

[Freelow]

no tights no flight my a**!! What a great episode and we finally got a peek at clark kent semi-flying.

I don't think he did fly this episode - it looked like he jumped to catch the nuke.

The cut scene of him getting onto the rocket looked like he barely caught the end half of the nuke.

I am also going to bet that the producers and writers are going to say this as well to keep the "No tights, no flight" quote alive.

[LordofKings]

I loved the episode, but I hate the way Clark/dying played out, and what I mean is that he was shot, pronounced dead and seen dead by so many people, then he just shows up at home, with no explanation to Lana or those who saw him die. I mean, when someone rises from the dead as Lex put it, their would be a MEDIA STORM around that story and it would get out. Why was no one asking questions? Their should have been some excuse as to how he healed, even if it was a stupid one, just to satisfy those who don't know about his powers. I mean, come on, its so obvious to everyone now that he is different.

In my opinion, Jor-el should have got him after he got shot with only Chloe seeing him shot. Then no one would have known, but I guess they did it for the drama and it was done well. Lana's acting qas impressive as well, surprising to me.

But still, they should have did something different then have him pull a Jesus act and rise from the dead with no explanation as to how to those who don't know hes superman. I also don't like the idea of Jor'el in a way being a living person - acting as if he has free will and can make thoughts to impact current life. In the movies all he was, was a memory, now its like he is an actually person to alive. Anyone else notlike this aspect or the whole Lionel being taken over - though the Fortress scene was awsome - then being returned to normal annoying or stupid?

Just my comments due to boredom.

But all in all, this is a great season - the best thus far imo, and the acting has never been better. Even chole, who I used to hate, is a fav of mine in this season.

Thank god theirs not much about the caves or witches.

Question: Did they ever explain the ending of season 3? When clark was travelling someone in like a ball-thingy? Where'd he go again? Couldn't have been Kypton as the planet is destroyed, right?

[Tornado]

Anybody remember the names of the songs in the episode? Any help would be appreciated.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Anybody remember the names of the songs in the episode? Any help would be appreciated.
David Gray - Life in slow motion
Anna Nalick - Wreck of the day
Dishwalla - Dishwalla.

info is posted at the WB official site.

[Tornado]

All right thanks, the Dishwalla one was what I was looking for.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

according to TVGuide.com's Ask Ausiello, the person to die is going to be

Martha.
Question: Can you please bestow some Smallville news upon us? — Mary

Ausiello: First off, the show is kicking ass on Thursday nights. We're talking triple-digit gains over what WB had been averaging on Thursday nights last fall. It has also reclaimed its position as WB's most-watched show, a miraculous feat considering its formidable competition on that night. And wait until you see what producers have in store for sweeps. On second thought, don't wait — just keep reading! (SPOILER ALERT!) Tensions between Clark and Braniac spike, culminating in an explosive fight; look for Lois to go undercover as a stripper to investigate the murder of a young girl; Martha contracts a mysterious disease from the planet Krypton and is given hours to live; and we'll find out what happens when Clark has a run-in with Silver Kryptonite (read: paranoid much, Clark?).

http://tvguide.com/News/AskAusiello/

[Freelow]

Martha contracts a mysterious disease from the planet Krypton and is given hours to live;


Okay. Here's the trick. It does not say that the person is going to die. It states that they will get sick and be given hours to live. Nothing about dying.

I think they will kill off someone not currently on the show, ie Pete, after bringing him back for 1 or 2 episodes. Or, the writers will stick with Superman lore and kill off Jonathon.

[HeadHunter]

I hope it isnt her

[GreenvilleTexan]

I have mixed feelings about this episode. I enjoyed the Clark/Lana part at the beginning, I love Chloe and how she is almost playing Clark's secret against him (aw gee, I wanted to be the only one who knew!).
But Lord was right. How are they going to explain Clark's "resurrection" to the rest of the city? You would think the docs would want to at least take a look.
(Oh, you came back from the dead? You OK now? All right, we'll see you later.")
Granted, a lot of weird things happen in Smallville, but a person coming back to life from a gunshot wound might take the cake.
Plus, I wanted to know how Clark got OFF of the missile. He may be invulnerable, but he was hitching a ride on a projectile several miles in the air going several hundred miles an hour straignt down. Did he just "jump" at the right time? Never mind the laws of physics there ...
Plus, wouldn't the rocket, warhead or no, made a sizable impact in the ground?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Okay. Here's the trick. It does not say that the person is going to die. It states that they will get sick and be given hours to live. Nothing about dying.

I think they will kill off someone not currently on the show, ie Pete, after bringing him back for 1 or 2 episodes. Or, the writers will stick with Superman lore and kill off Jonathon.
While it doesnt say she's the one to die, she is most likely the one who was chosen. how else could contract a disease from krypton?

[onelegasy]

Brainiac? Who's Brainiac?

[Klimber]

Enemy of Supermen in the comics. On the show played by James Marsters.

[Freelow]

While it doesnt say she's the one to die, she is most likely the one who was chosen. how else could contract a disease from krypton?

Off the top of my head, maybe Brainiac gets this person sick to test or coerce Kal El.

[beyond_th3]

I wanted to know how Clark got OFF of the missile. He may be invulnerable, but he was hitching a ride on a projectile several miles in the air going several hundred miles an hour straignt down. Did he just "jump" at the right time? Never mind the laws of physics there ...
Plus, wouldn't the rocket, warhead or no, made a sizable impact in the ground?

Are we watching the same show? You will believe a man can fly, but a piece of metal falling from the sky from the man who can lift buildings is hard to believe because of "laws of physics"?

[GreenvilleTexan]

No, my problem with this episode is how conveniently they just glossed over things, such as what happened to the missile, how Clark got off of the thing and how they are going to explain to the rest of Smallville how Clark is suddenly back from the dead.
I just believed ignoring the combination of all of the above was a little too convenient on the part of the writers.
I know, I'm being silly trying to attach logic to things, but I was just mentioning why this episode bothered me.

[WuTical]

i just bought season 1 to this show (never seen the show before) and watched the first 2 discs...think the show is great...reminds me of Buffy the vampire slayer for some reason

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Executive Producer Alfred Gough revealed in TV Guide that the major character death of someone close to Clark (first teased in "Hidden") will occur in Episode #100. But, Gough has also teased that there will actually be more than one major death in the episode. Let the speculation begin!

[Klimber]

The one problem that I hated about this last episode is that we as the fans are supposted to believe that in 20 minutes time the following happened.
1.The IT kid called Chloe and started the countdown
2. The local NEST team attacked an empty bunker
3. Clark and Chloe searched for the IT kid
4. Chloe calls the IT kid for help.
5. IT kid arrives to rescue Chloe, shoots Clark
6. Clark is found and transported to the hospital.
7. Clark in and out of surgery
8. Ma and Pa Kent arrive post surgery
9. Lana visits Ck
10. CK dies
11. Lana and the Kents mourn/Ck body vanishes
12. Jor El and CK enterlude
12b Chloe kills the IT kid.
13. CK is runs back some 2000 miles to Smallville to see the nuke launch.

20 minutes realtime? Only if this is freakin 24.

20 Minutes Smallville time. I am going to have to say BS

[Tony Montana]

I start hating Smallville.

[Tornado]

I'm so pumped for tomorrow's episode with Aquaman. After last week's episode, how could one not be?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

a clip from "Aqua"

http://us.video.aol.com/video.full.adp?mode=0&pmmsid=1417859&referer=http%3A//television.aol.com/&restartUrl=http%3a%2f%2fus%2evideo%2eaol%2ecom%2fv ideo%2eindex%2eadp%3fmode%3d1%26pmmsid%3d1417859%2 6referer%3dhttp%253A%2f%2ftelevision%2eaol%2ecom%2 f&mode=1

[LS2002]

With Aquaman being on Smallville and more Scenes with James in this episode I can't wait.

[GreenvilleTexan]

Yeah, it looks promising and I understand Smallville is kicking some rating a** on Thursday nights now.

[Freelow]

Thank God the writers of Smallville are perverts like me.

The first 5 minutes of tonite's episode have Lois in a bikini - and, boy, does she fill it out nicely.

Who needs plot when you have Lois in bikinis. :D

[Neverending]

I thought having Aquaman on Smallville was the dumbest thing ever until Erica Durance (Lois Lane) appeared in a bikini. Best. Episode. Ever.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

she has done a nude scene before ;) you probably havent seen it though because it was in an Uwe Boll movie :P

[Neverending]

I wanna see a nude Erica! What film was this?!

[Freelow]

House of the Dead - ah, the power of Google.

Here's a link to the photos of her nude - I will not post the photos here.
http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/9046

[Tornado]

I thought it was a pretty good episode. I liked the nod to the JLA (Junior Lifeguards Association), but I did get a little tired of the whole 'It's cool bro. No problem bro. What's going on bro?' banter with A.C. Not as great as last week's in my opinion, but still not bad.

[Neverending]

House of the Dead - ah, the power of Google.

Here's a link to the photos of her nude - I will not post the photos here.
http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/9046

Not my favorite nipples, but still pretty hot.

[Freelow]

Decent episode. Good effects for the swimming and his powers while underwater.

So, with the movies, cartoons, and now this show, Lois has made out with Superman, Batman, and now Aquaman.

Seems Lois lusts after anyone that has superpowers. Anyone, besides me, hoping that she gets introduced to Wonder Woman?

[Neverending]

So, with the movies, cartoons, and now this show, Lois has made out with Superman, Batman, and now Aquaman.

What a slut!

[insaneMoViEgoer]

next weeks episode looks like crap. i'll only be watching it for: Carrie Fisher and the further devolpment of the Brainiac story. the last scene especially sounds pretty good.

[GreenvilleTexan]

Pretty good ep. I was also a little bothered by the "bro" speak. Wondered if A.C. was really from the O.C. ...
Good effects and I like how the tension between Clark and Lex continues to build.
I like James Marsters turn as well, but makes me wonder how he got hired on at the university so quickly after arriving on earth.
And, as others have mentioned, the close-ups of Lois in the bikini, especially during the CPR scene ! :meanie:

[LS2002]

Anybody think its kinda weird that there doing a Vampire storyline with James now on Smallville.

[Neverending]

What's up with that Vampire episode? Looks really stupid.

[Freelow]

Just in case anyone missed last night's episode, here is the best part of the show, courtesy of gorillamask.com.

http://gorillamask.net/edur21.jpg
http://gorillamask.net/edur425.jpg
http://gorillamask.net/edur7.jpg

[GreenvilleTexan]

Vampires + Marsters + Halloween week I think is the idea there.

[whitey137]

yeah its just for halloween I think, when was bruce wayne on this show? I missed most of last season :(

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Bruce hasnt been on the show.

[hard2hold]

I missed Aqua & downloaded from eMule but all I received are test bars. Any idea what I am doing wrong?....besides downloading in the 1st place

[Klimber]

More house of the dead pics (http://www.erica-durance.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=54)

Actually this site has just about every shot that Erica has taken on the movies and tv.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

if you guys like those, im sure you'll love the episode where she goes undercover as a stripper ;) :P

[Klimber]

Uh which episode was that?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

hasnt aired yet.

[Alien]

if you guys like those, im sure you'll love the episode where she goes undercover as a stripper ;) :P
I thought it was Chole that was going undercover as a Stripper, either way, nice :csgrin:

[GreenvilleTexan]

Maybe ... both! :omg:
By the way this is my 1,000th post (does the happy dance, briefly, until his wife hits him on the back of the head).

[Klimber]

Your wife is my hero. Lol

[Tornado]

I liked the episode to a certain degree, although I am definitely glad that Lana didn't 'truly' find out Clark's secret - it keeps the drama up to better standards.

[tommy_j76]

i missed the episode...can some one tell me where to dl it?

[GreenvilleTexan]

I'm suprised by how much sexual innuendo the censors let them get away with.
By the way, I'm sure everyone caught all the "Buffy" references during the episode.

[Klimber]

Yeah Buffy Sanders

The character Carrie Fisher (who buy the way has not held up well at all over the years) ever said to Chloe something like The slaying of the Vampire Buffy Sanders. I wonder if it was a coinsciencdence the Buffy looked a heck of a lot like Harmony. Aslo I cracked up at James Marsters' line in the Hospital to CK " Clark there is no such thing as vampires" Classic. I wonder what read tape Gough had to pust Whedon to not get sued.

Lana's K9s are almost sticking out enough that she did not need vamp enhancements.

Edit I just googled "Buffy" and did not realize until now the she was the cutie in the first season of the 4400 who was dating the brother Kyle.

[GreenvilleTexan]

Oh, I think Whedon didn't mind so much. He probably knew it would be inevitable that it would come up with Marsters a part of the show now. Of course, now that they have gotten it out of the way, I don't see it coming up again.
By the way, I am LOVING Marster's character on the show, from his freaky accent, to his intelligence to his Terminator like powers. Marsters is providing a real spark.
The question is, what has he got against Lex Luthor so much?

[beyond_th3]

lex luthor has power, and he and clark were/are friends. He sees the opportunity to use clark by showing him lexes apparent evil ways.

[Tornado]

Well, we all know someone is going to die in the episode "Reckoning" (#5-12). Any ideas as to who you guys think it will be? I'm going to try to analyze it, character by character:

Clark - Obviously not.

Lex - Not unless they really want to screw up the whole essence of the show.

Lana - She would be my preferred choice (I find her annoying, and it'd be a good reason for Clark to start thinking about Lois more often), but I would bet against it.

Chloe - Aside from Clark, she's my favorite character on the show, so I'm obviously hoping it's not her. But, she's not from the comics, and since it seems that if you know Clark's secret you either die or leave, I guess it might be her.

Lois - I wouldn't count on it.

Jonathan - This is my guess. Jonathan does have to forfeit his life sooner or later, due to his deal with Jor-El in Season Three. Not to mention, I've heard a few times that John Schneider was pretty upset about Season Four for numerous reasons, so this may be his way of getting out.

Martha - Nah.

Lionel - I suppose it's possible, but I've always imagined that Lionel will be killed by Lex in one of the last episodes of the show, truly completing his 'turn to the darkside'.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

interesting thing about Chloe is, that DC bought the rights to her character. so she might live afterall. and the producers said there will be more then one major death on the 100th(12th) episode.

[Tornado]

and the producers said there will be more then one major death on the 100th(12th) episode.

You're right, they did. But personally, I feel that 'death' doesn't necessarily mean a physical death in this case. I think it may be something like, the death of Clark and Lana's relationship, or the death of Lex's 'goodside', or possibly the death of the Clark Kent we know and the birth of Superman. Something along those lines. But maybe I'm wrong, we'll find out soon enough I suppose.

[Freelow]

You're right, they did. But personally, I feel that 'death' doesn't necessarily mean a physical death in this case. I think it may be something like, the death of Clark and Lana's relationship, or the death of Lex's 'goodside', or possibly the death of the Clark Kent we know and the birth of Superman. Something along those lines. But maybe I'm wrong, we'll find out soon enough I suppose.

Hey Tornado,

Interesting ideas for the possible deaths.

I am one of those people that says if it is stated that a major character is going to die, then a major character must die. Me personally, the easiest out would be to kill off Pete. Since he has not been on for a while, it would be easy to bring him back for one episode and to kill him off. It could be attributed to LuthorCorp to help further push a wedge between Clark and Lex.

While I am thinking of it, having Lionel die and have it look like Clark could have saved him, but was unable to, would be a fantastic way to introduce Lex's hatred towards Clark/Superman.

I don't think it will be Jonathon because I think the producers are going to stick somewhat to the Superman movie lore and have his death be a major part of Clark leaving to completely becoming Superman.

I hope it isn't Chloe - I got the hots for Chloe and I want to her to remain on the show.

[Tornado]

It's kind of funny, I was skimming through some stuff on KryptonSite.com, and came across this article:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/goughwizard.htm

It contains a basic set-up for this season:

The hit series kicks into a new gear as both Clark Kent (Tom Welling) and Lex Luthor (Michael Rosenbaum) rocket closer to their respective destinies. "Clark has spent four years running from who he is; this season he finally embraces it and begins to move forward," Series Co-creator and Executive Producer Alfred Gough says. "Meanwhile, Lex will spiral closer and closer to the dark side." The season will also see fan favorite Erica Durance return for 13 more episodes as Lois Lane, more stories set in Metropolis and a new villain who Gough claims "gives even Lionel Luthor pause."

Hmm, interesting. A 'main character' is set to die in the 13th episode as I said in a post above. Now, I know for a fact that Lois was in Arrival, Hidden, and Aqua. I'm pretty sure she was in Mortal and Thirst, but I'm not positive on those two. She's in the next episode (Exposed) as well, and most of the ones following as far as I can tell. Is it possible that Lois will be the one biting the bullet this season?

[Freelow]

Okay, you lost me on your train of thought.

If the producers really want to stick with Superman lore and push everyone in the right directions, the way to go would be to kill off Chloe. Clark would realize that if he had accepted his destiny, the way Chloe told him to, he probably could have saved her. Her death could also push Lois to move into a career of journalism.

That death would shape Smallville to roll into Superman well.

[spiderman_2k]

The only problem I have is what we have learned from Thirst about the Daily Planet and how hard it is to get in, even if you are as good as Chloe, it's always been obvious that Chloe is the Smallville version of Lois, there was no real need to bring Lois into the series at all, I mean how exactly would she get a career and become one of the Planets best reporters when by now she hasnt shown any intrest in journalism, it seems the writers are still making Chloe the character of Lois, even though Lois is in the series now.

[Tornado]

Okay, you lost me on your train of thought.

What I'm saying, is that Lois (Erica Durance) has been signed for thirteen episodes in season five. The 'main character' who dies this season, will do so in the thirteenth episode. Is it a mere coincidence that the numbers are the same? Or is Lois the one who may be sacrificed? I'm guessing it's probably a coincidence, but personally I'm all for Lois dying and Chloe surviving. Lois is probably my least favorite 'regular' on the show anyway.

[bbf2]

I'm pretty sure Lois can't die, because of the fact that she's one of the characters in Superman canon and whatnot. In fact, since the Kent parents have both died in some incarnations or another, Clark, Lex, and Lois are the only people we know are safe.

[WuTical]

What I'm saying, is that Lois (Erica Durance) has been signed for thirteen episodes in season five. The 'main character' who dies this season, will do so in the thirteenth episode. Is it a mere coincidence that the numbers are the same? Or is Lois the one who may be sacrificed? I'm guessing it's probably a coincidence, but personally I'm all for Lois dying and Chloe surviving. Lois is probably my least favorite 'regular' on the show anyway.
i havent seen any of season 5 (i got 2 more discs of season 2 to watch than ill start on season 3) but we all know how important Lois is to the franchise of Superman

[insaneMoViEgoer]

What I'm saying, is that Lois (Erica Durance) has been signed for thirteen episodes in season five. The 'main character' who dies this season, will do so in the thirteenth episode. Is it a mere coincidence that the numbers are the same? Or is Lois the one who may be sacrificed? I'm guessing it's probably a coincidence, but personally I'm all for Lois dying and Chloe surviving. Lois is probably my least favorite 'regular' on the show anyway.
but she wasnt in the second and third episode of the season. so she cant die by then, she'd have at least two more episodes left in her contract.

[FVD]

I can't see Lois dying if she's gonna live on in the Superman mythos. But if we're thinking of her faking her death then I suppose I can live with that. Then again Clark will suspect something once he meets her again in Metropolis.

I could see Chloe getting killed off. It would be far more tragic.

FVD.

[Tornado]

but she wasnt in the second and third episode of the season. so she cant die by then, she'd have at least two more episodes left in her contract.

Actually, she was in both.

Description for Mortal from the WB (second episode):

CLARK LOSES HIS POWERS AND BEGINS A RELATIONSHIP WITH LANA — Jor-El strips Clark (Tom Welling) of his powers, making him human. Delighted to finally be “normal,” Clark pursues a relationship with Lana (Kristin Kreuk) sans secrets. However, after Lana, Jonathan (John Schneider) and Martha (Annette O’Toole) are taken hostage by three thugs, Clark must figure out how to save his family without his super powers. Michael Rosenbaum, Allison Mack, John Glover and Erica Durance also star. Steven S. DeKnight wrote the episode directed by Terrence O’Hara (#2T640).

Description for Hidden from the WB (third episode):

CLARK IS SHOT! - Chloe (Allison Mack) is warned by Gabriel (guest star Johnny Lewis) that he is going to set off a missile and obliterate all of Smallville. Still stripped of his super powers, Clark confronts Gabriel and ends up getting shot. In the hospital, Clark flatlines and his fate is left in Jor-El's hands. Meanwhile, Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) believes Lionel (John Glover) has the key to open the spaceship. Kristin Kreuk, Erica Durance, Annette O'Toole and John Schneider also star. Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders wrote the episode directed by Whitney Ransick (#2T6403).

[FVD]

The facts are wrong dude. Erica never appeared in the two episodes. I think they did that just as the regular cast appear for the entire season.

Have you seen the two episodes Tornado? ;)

[Klimber]

What I'm saying, is that Lois (Erica Durance) has been signed for thirteen episodes in season five. The 'main character' who dies this season, will do so in the thirteenth episode. Is it a mere coincidence that the numbers are the same? Or is Lois the one who may be sacrificed? I'm guessing it's probably a coincidence, but personally I'm all for Lois dying and Chloe surviving. Lois is probably my least favorite 'regular' on the show anyway.


I would have to agree with you to some point. Were as I like Lois on the show and I think the Erica is doing a real bang up job in the role I think tha t if she OR Chloe died it could be the catalyst to for the Lois Lane of the future. Couple scenarios:

1) If Chloe died Lois might throw her natural invesigative talents in the the job of reporter. (unlikely, and a real loss to the show not having Chloe)

2) If Lois died, it could drive Chloe to assime the psydo-name of Lois Lane at the Daily Planet in honor of her fallen cousin and figure in the FOTW mind wipe to lose the memory of Clarks secret identity. Bingo. Ah just the thought of this scenario gives me a warm tingily feeling of all the hours that Spidey2K and I spent annoying BAADSHAH to this possibility before Erica was cast in the role.

But I too would like to see Pete show up and quickly killed. Just me I guess. My least favorite semi regular in the show without a doubt is the Sheriff.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

But I too would like to see Pete show up and quickly killed. Just me I guess. My least favorite semi regular in the show without a doubt is the Sheriff.
she's gonna get shot ;)

[Klimber]

she's gonna get shot ;)

Hey things are looking up.

[Brenzi51]

HAHAHAHA...It's all down hill from there

[Tornado]

The facts are wrong dude. Erica never appeared in the two episodes. I think they did that just as the regular cast appear for the entire season.

Have you seen the two episodes Tornado? ;)

Could be.

Yeah, I've seen all of season five. It's seasons one and two that I haven't seen more than a few episodes from. I'm working on correcting that though.

2) If Lois died, it could drive Chloe to assime the psydo-name of Lois Lane at the Daily Planet in honor of her fallen cousin and figure in the FOTW mind wipe to lose the memory of Clarks secret identity. Bingo. Ah just the thought of this scenario gives me a warm tingily feeling of all the hours that Spidey2K and I spent annoying BAADSHAH to this possibility before Erica was cast in the role.

Yep, yep, I've been thinking the same things and I would really like it if that were to happen. I feel strange saying this, but I really want to see Clark go after Chloe rather than Lois. And if it's a name change needed to let that happen, I'm all for it. Chloe is smart, nice, beautiful, and on top of everything she's always been there for Clark. He'd be a fool to not pursue her.

Oh, and since I've seen this multiple places at other forums, what does 'FOTW' mean? I've always assumed the OT part meant 'Off Topic', but maybe I'm wrong.

[bbf2]

FOTW = Freak of the Week

[Klimber]

No it is for "Freak of The Week" ie. show that don't follow standard plot archs and usually involve metor rock created powers and the FOTW eiter dying or becoing a resident of Belle Reeve by the end of the show.

[Tornado]

Ooooh, all right, thanks guys.

[Klimber]

That was freaking me out how fast you replyed but then I saw the post above. Ha HA

[FVD]

Yeah them FOTW episodes can be rather boring.

[Klimber]

Oh I dunno some were kinda entertaining.
The HS Football couch who became infected by a kryptonite laced sauna
was one of my top FOTW's

[GreenvilleTexan]

Of course, people die and/or possessed a lot on this show, and are then brought back to normal, so even though someone may get killed, that doesn't mean they will be gone for good. Just like the comics.

[FVD]

Yeah you're right Klimber. I did say some of after all. ;)

[FVD]

Oops no I didn't. My bad. :D

[Tornado]

I didn't really like this episode ('Exposed') all that much. Maybe it's just me, but I get a little tired of these episodes that come around every once in a while that don't really do much of anything for the plot in the whole scheme of things. Maybe it would have been more entertaining for me if I was somewhat of a fan of the Dukes of Hazzard.

I wonder if they're (Gough and Millar) starting to 'build' a more... involved relationship between Clark and Lois. It seems to me like they are, but maybe I'm just over looking things.

Oh, and I don't know if anybody else saw this, but (Pretty Big Spoilers About the Death of the Major Character, you've been warned) KryptonSite received a few spoilers about the episode immediately after 'Reckoning' (this is the episode where somebody dies). Chloe is mentioned numerous times, and looks to be a major character in this particular episode ('Vengeance'). Looks like Chloe won't be meeting her doom in 'Reckoning'. I'm glad, this show might have lost a viewer if that happened.

[Freelow]

As much as I like the character, I think that person's death would be a great way to advance the characters and the show.

With Chloe dying, Lois could go on a rampage trying to discover who was the cause of her death; playing investigative reporter. Clark, would do the same, but use more of his Superman abilities to get the job done. He would think back to how Chloe tried to push him to get his powers back when he lost them.

It would be a great way to start to tie everything together.

[Neverending]

I love how they continue to show Lois in a bikini. Aside from that the episode last night was pretty weak.

[FVD]

Well as for the Exposed episode I did think it was really cool seeing Tom Wopat and John Schneider reunited not to mention a Blue Dodge Charger. YEE-HAH!!! They even did a jump. Crikey. What are the odds of Catherine Bach making an appearance. :rolleyes:

[Rogue]

Smallville is totally addictive. One of my clients at work has all the seasons on DVD..and we watch a couple, in order, every night when our work is done. We're all the way into the second season. Whoo hoo. I have a lot of catching up to do but this show just sucks you in.

[Tornado]

You're right, the show is incredibly addictive. I checked out all six discs of Season Two at the library (no money sadly, will buy it eventually) a week ago and watched every episode. And I've watched eight episodes of the twenty-two of Season Four (which I bought on Friday). So really, in the last seven days I've seen 31 episodes.

Wow. ;)

[Tornado]

From the WB:

507 - Splinter

CLARK IS EXPOSED TO SILVER KRYPTONITE – Clark (Tom Welling) is exposed to silver kryptonite, causing him to have paranoid delusions. The silver kryptonite makes him believe that Chloe (Allison Mack) is going to reveal his secret, Jonathan (John Schneider) is scheming against him with Lionel (John Glover) and Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Lana (Kristin Kreuk) are having a secret relationship. Chloe and the Kents frantically search for a cure, but it is Professor Fine (guest star James Marsters) who comes to Clark's rescue – although not without an agenda.

----------------------------------

Sounds like a good one, can't wait until tonight.

[LordofKings]

Ok, due to Hurricane Wilma here in South Florida I've missed some tv shows, and I missed the last two episodes of smallville, starting with the Vampire one. I just got my cable back ten minutes ago. It was out for 2 1/2 weeks

Can someone please explain what I missed, esp anything important to the relatioonships, Marsters character, Lex-Clark, anything I needed to see that I missed basically. Much thanks.

[Tornado]

Sure:

THIRST (505)

At the Daily Planet, new editor-in-chief Pauline Kahn meets with Chloe and is less than sympathetic when explaining that she didn’t get an internship. Kahn is skeptical of Chloe’s qualifications because she had a column and got it because of Lionel’s influence. Chloe kicks her on it and Kahn tells her she’ll consider it if Chloe brings her a story. Later Chloe narrates the story that she came up with.

At the Tri-Psi Sorority house, a pizza boy delivers pizzas and is greeted by three women in bikinis. They take him to the hot tub out back and are all over him…and then grow fangs and bite him, feeding on his blood.

Clark drops in to visit Lana, who reveals she got in at Metropolis University. However, there aren’t any dorm rooms and she decides to try a sorority. Lana arrives at the rush where the president, Buffy, warns them of the life-changing rigors ahead.

Professor Fine is giving a lesson on Rome and how the citizens stood by as an evil emperor destroyed them. Lex stops in and Fine puts Clark on the spot about LuthorCorp and its ownership of Smallville. Clark can’t answer and afterward Lex and Fine spar. Fine knows about secret LuthorCorp projects and Lex wonders if Clark is providing him with info. Lex threatens to use his access to cut off Fine before he gets to a second semester.

Lana and three other girls make it to the final initiation but the other three get rejected and Lana is the one to be accepted. Buffy points out there is one final initiation – they turn into vampires and Buffy feeds her some of her blood. When she’s done, Lana is now…a vampire!

Professor Fine visits Lex at the manor and wants to know why Lex has been looking into his past. Fine gives Lex his complete record and reveals he has a record of Lex using his funds to finance experiments on the campus. After Fine leaves, Lex has one of his henchmen follow him.

At her dorm room, Chloe has to deal with her roommate griping about her posting of articles on their wall, and how her friend is sleeping in there. Lana is lethargic and Chloe thinks she has a hangover. Clark arrives and she starts nuzzling his neck and starts acting a lot different. When he doesn’t respond, she dons a pair of sunglasses and heads out.

Professor Fine breaks in at the spaceship where Lex’s man draws a gun on him. Fine extends a bit of his apparently metallic body, killing the guard, and approaches the ship.

Lana is at the sorority drinking with the others when they knock her down a flight of stairs. Lana lands at the bottom, her neck broken and her body shattered, but she revives a minute later, snapping her bones back into place.

The next day Clark and Chloe compare notes and Chloe determines that six years ago Buffy took over and become wildly successful, but only choose one new girl a year. Since Buffy took over, no one has left the sorority. She figures they can sneak in during their Halloween party and snoop around. They manage to get in without invitations and Clark goes to check out the rooms while Chloe spots Lana hitting on a guy and drags her off. Clark finds an article about Buffy surviving a vampire attack in a Smallville cave and Buffy confronts him, but he super speeds out during a momentary distraction. Lana regrets that Chloe came and then attacks her – Clark hears them and breaks them up, then flees into the night, leaving an injured Chloe.

Clark takes Chloe to the hospital where they figure she has some kind of rabies-like disease that is keeping her blood cells from regenerating, and there’s nothing they can do. Professor Fine drops in and is skeptical, and after checking the records suggest Clark ask Lex about Project 1138. Buffy and the others aren’t happy that Lana messed things up and tell her to fix it.

At the manor, Clark confronts Lex about 1138 and he denies knowing anything. When Clark lays it out Lex tells him that six years ago Buffy was trapped in a cage for several days until LuthorCorp rescued her. There were meteor rocks in the cave that affected the bats. One LuthorCorp technician was infected but they came up with an injectable cure, a cure based on green kryptonite. Clark is weakened and Lana busts in, knocking out Lex and biting Clark. She reacts briefly to the blood and then realizes she has heat vision. Clark manages to grab the syringe but passes out.

Lana brings Clark back to the sorority house and suggests they convert him into a vampire, but Buffy and the others refuse. They fight and Lana vaporized Buffy with her borrowed heat vision. The other girls back down and run out at Lana’s command, and she goes to prepare to convert Clark into a vampire, saying they can be together. He manages to inject the cure.

Chloe reveals that the other girls were cured, the sorority house was closed down, and Chloe’s roommate moved out and Lana has moved in. Lana doesn’t remember much except the overwhelming feeling of strength that she feels was what was in Clark’s heart. Clark thanks Lex, who confronts him about Fine and reveals Fine has been stealing secret documents. He warns Clark that Fine isn’t the friend he thinks he is. Chloe turns her story over to Kahn who decides to take her on at the Planet.

EXPOSED (506)

At the Daily Planet, Chloe is screening news calls and Lois is stuck there keeping company. Lois reveals she needs Chloe’s help to move into the apartment at the Talon. Chloe then takes a call from a desperate woman who gives her address and says some guy is trying to find her. The two women get there and see the woman get intentionally killed by a hit-and-run driver.

Clark is helping out at the farm when a Blue Dodge Charger comes barreling in and out steps Jonathan’s old friend, Senator Jake Jennings. He’s in the middle of a campaign and wants Jonathan to help rally the farmers for him – he’s running against Lex Luthor.

Detective Maggie Sawyer talks to Chloe and Lois but isn’t happy with their lack of information. She believes there’s nothing to it but Chloe and Lois believe, the dead girl, Melissa Page, was more then a simple hooker and decide to look into it. Chloe checks the phone number of the booth and notices a nearby club, the Wingate. Jennings is entertaining Jonathan and Clark when Sawyer shows up and reveals they find a picture in the dead girl’s apartment of her and Jennings together. Jennings denies any knowledge of the girl and Jonathan thinks it’s a fake made up by Lex. Clark confronts Lex who denies any involvement but recognizes the club as the Windgate and warns it has a dangerous reputation, but gives him a VIP pass to get in.

Chloe and Lois find their way to the club as well but can’t talk their way past the bouncer. Noticing some women in costumes outside, they sneak in behind them then ask some questions without results, then spot a private office. They sneak in start searching the files, but are interrupted by the owner. Chloe covers by passing Lois off as an exotic dancer.

Lex comes by the Kent farm to talk to Senator Jennings and Jonathan vents on him. Lex reveals he checked out the photo and found cell phone records confirming Jennings was talking to the dead girl, but he’s going to let the press find it rather then go public with it himself.

Lois has succeeded in passing herself off as a stripper while Chloe doesn’t have any luck getting information on the dead girl from the other strippers. Clark has donned a suit and tie and entered the club, where he’s greeted by the owner, and claims he’s meeting with Jennings, who has a “usual table.” Clark looks on in astonishment as Lois emerges and goes through her (initially rather awkward) dance routine. Eventually she spots Clark and slips over after her dance routine, and drapes herself over him while trying to bring him up to date on what’s going on. Afterward Clark notices a European guy meeting with the owner and uses his super-hearing to overhear them talking about $500,000 and the owner’s “girls.”

The police bust in and the European guy manages to get Lois out while Clark gets arrested along with the other men. Sawyer is there to investigate the dead girl and the fact she worked at the club. Clark spots Chloe who doesn’t know where Lois is. Clark listens in on the conversation between the owner and Sawyer, where the owner claims Jennings was drunk and he took him home, but the senator had nothing to do with the murder. Chloe talks to the strippers about the European guy the owner was talking about, and how he takes a different girl out of the club every night, but the girls disappear and are never seen again. Chloe finds out Lois went with the guy, and then Sawyer cuts her and Clark free thanks to some calls by Lex. Sawyer isn’t impressed with their theory and tells them to get out.

Jonathan meets up with Jennings at the farm and they go for a ride, and Jonathan confronts Jennings about the dead girl and wants straight answers. Jennings admit he was involved with Melissa and doesn’t love his wife, but lied to keep Jonathan out of it.

Lois is with the European guy at his apartment and while changing her clothing, she finds Melissa’s personal belongings. He takes pictures of her in her new dress and talks about how she’ll make the other girls jealous. When she tries to get out, the guy grabs her and forces her to stay. She takes him out with some martial arts moves but the guy’s bodyguard tasers her unconscious.

At the Planet, Chloe and Clark compare notes. Clark overheard Sawyer talk about the son of a diplomat and Chloe has photos of the cars’ license plates. They find a consulate plate in the photos and find the address, and Clark superspeeds there. The European guy is taking Lois out by helicopter from the rooftop helipad when Clark arrives. He prints out a fake passport the guy made for her while Chloe figures there’s a helipad on the roof. Clark superspeeds up there, hooks the helicopter with a line, and starts pulling it down. The pilot is knocked out and Clark yanks it back, and Lois takes out the other bad guys.

Sawyer shows up but reveals the guy, Mr. Lyon, has to be released due to diplomatic immunity. Lois this him once more but then he leaves. Sawyer suggests they stick to Smallville. Later Clark meets with Lex and thanks him for his help, then expresses his disappointment with Jennings. Lex then has an allegorical conversation with Clark about King David and how he fell in love with his best friend’s life, so King David sent the friend off to die in battle.

Clark meets with Jennings at the bar and Jennings reveals he’s calling a press conference – he’s pulling out of the race. Later Jennings suggests that Jonathan should consider running for Senator. Lois is moving out and ropes Clark into helping her. Chloe shows up with her news story revealing that Interpol arrested Mr. Lyon in Europe, thanks to an anonymous tip. Lois reluctantly thanks Clark for his help and they part as friends.

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Happy reading. ;)

[LordofKings]

thanks for the help torn. It appears I didn't miss much. But thanks.

[Freelow]

I am all but sure that the person who is going to die is Chloe.

She told Clark tonite that she would die before she ever told anyone his secret.

[Tornado]

I am all but sure that the person who is going to die is Chloe.

She told Clark tonite that she would die before she ever told anyone his secret.

Eh... I'm a little iffy on that. She's all over the spoilers for Episode 13, which is one after the 'Death' episode. Maybe it's just a trick by the powers that be, and she really is the one, but I'm not so sure. My guess is Lionel Luthor. Mainly because Gough and Millar said there would be two deaths in that episode. Well, by killing Lionel there really are two deaths taking place. Lionel, and Jor-El. But they also said that it was someone 'close' to Clark. I wouldn't really consider Lionel close I suppose. That and I had always hoped that Lex would be the one to kill Lionel, but that's just a personal wish.

Anyway, I thought that was a pretty good episode. Better than the past couple of weeks, although it wasn't as great as I had hoped it would be. I wonder how long it'll be until Clark and Lana break up. Clark doesn't even seem to care anymore. No big display of superpowers this week either, kind of disappointing to be honest. All the previous episodes had Clark displaying powers a few times. Aside from shoving Lex into the wall, using a little X-Ray vision, and super-speeding around tight rooms a bit, there wasn't much else. Oh well, still a good episode in what is shaping up to be the best season yet in my opinion.

EDIT - And gotta love the trailer for next week's episode:

508 - SOLITUDE

PROFESSOR FINE CONVINCES CLARK TO DESTROY THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE – After Martha (Annette O'Toole) contracts a strange disease and is given hours to live, Clark (Tom Welling) turns to Professor Fine (guest star James Marsters), who convinces Clark that Jor-El is the one responsible for her illness and the only way to save her is to destroy the Fortress of Solitude. However, once the two arrive at the Fortress, Professor Fine tries to free Zod and kill Clark.

[Neverending]

Now, next weeks episode will be awesome! It's about time we got some General Zod

[Neverending]

It appears I didn't miss much.

Of course not. Smallville is 90% filler episodes. lol. But, you did miss Lois Lane as a striper. That was the highlight of the season so far. lol. I'm sure you can find a few pictures online.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Now, next weeks episode will be awesome! It's about time we got some General Zod
we probably wont even see him. we'll be lucky if we get a silhouette.

[Freelow]

Of course not. Smallville is 90% filler episodes. lol. But, you did miss Lois Lane as a striper. That was the highlight of the season so far. lol. I'm sure you can find a few pictures online.

I really hope the producers keep finding more ways to show off Lois' body.

As much as I loved the bikini in the Aquaman episode and her stripper outfit last week, I really loved her black leather corset from the episode where Lana, Chloe, and Lois beomce posessed by the witches.

[Tornado]

As much as I loved the bikini in the Aquaman episode and her stripper outfit last week, I really loved her black leather corset from the episode where Lana, Chloe, and Lois beomce posessed by the witches.

Yeah, 408 - Spell. Not exactly my favorite episode out of Season Four, but there were several others that more than made up for it.

[livethechoice]

I'm confused. Who/What the hell is James Marsters? And what was the deal with that thing out of the neck? And the "silver kryptonite"?
I only started watching the show this past season, is it something I have to start from the beginning to understand?

[Tornado]

Who/What the hell is James Marsters?

He's a virus with an extreme level of knowledge that takes a 'human' form essentially. He is Professor Fine, and is one of Superman's future nemesis - Brainiac.

And what was the deal with that thing out of the neck? And the "silver kryptonite"?

That was Professor Fine removing the splinter (hence, the episode title) of silver kryptonite from Clark's body. Yeah, he was hurt in the hand by it initially, but I'm guessing it just traveled through his bloodstream to the neck, which is where Fine removed it.

Silver kryptonite just makes Clark very paranoid - essentially his worst fears start to 'materialize' in his mind. What he sees is an altered version of what's really happening, tailor-made to freak out Clark.

I only started watching the show this past season, is it something I have to start from the beginning to understand?

Not this particular storyline. Professor Fine didn't appear until the first episode of the current season (5) - Arrival. But if I were you I would watch all the previous episodes to gain a better central understanding of the show.

[livethechoice]

oh, cool thanks.
Why did Prof. Fine take part of the Silver Kryptonite into himself? In the last scene it looked like it just melted into his hand.
And how could he mimic Kryptonian powers?

[GreenvilleTexan]

Actually, it was Professor Fine who probably created the thing in the first place, then sent it to Clark to set off the series of events which took place during the episode.
As to how he could mimic Kryptonian powers, either he is a special form of Kryptonian (mutant, maybe) or his race has the ability to do just that.
Good episode, but I am getting a little tired of the writers constantly finding new ways to have Clark's or somebody else's personalities drastically altered.
On another note, what is Lana searching for on her computer?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

it looks like she's trying to find out where the meteors came from.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Marsters to be a series regular!?

Also, I hear they're in talks with James Marsters to make him a series regular. No word yet on if he's going to sign. I know his children live here in L.A., so it might be a tough sell.
http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2005/051114b.html
speaking of Brainiac, do you think they'll ever show the Bottle City of Kandor in the show?

[Tornado]

I don't really like that notion to be honest. The promo posters for Solitude have the tagline 'A Hero Takes A Life'. I've always kind of thought that Clark would kill Professor Fine in the Fortress of Solitude. While I suppose it may not happen, I believe it will considering Fine isn't listed in any of the spoilers for the next couple of episodes after Solitude.

[OBSERVER]

We have 3 months of waiting for the death episode.

[Tornado]

Yeah:

508 Solitude - 11/17
509 Lexmas - 12/8
510 Fanatic - January 2006
511 Closer - January 2006
512 Reckoning (100th/Death) - February 2006
513 Vengeance - February 2006

I'm not too concerned about the dates though. The same thing occured in previous years, and we still got full seasons at the end of it all. Thursday nights will just be boring for a while. ;)

[Neverending]

I wonder if they're gonna have a sneak peek of Superman Returns in the season finale. Like they did with Batman Begins.

[Tornado]

That'd be pretty cool.

New clip from 508 Solitude:

http://www.tv.com/smallville/solitude/episode/541500/summary.html

Looks like an excellent episode. Nice to see a little continuity from TPTB in Fine moving away from the meteor rock with Clark, seeing as how he's posing as a Kryptonian and whatnot.

[boydston_14]

Yeah:

508 Solitude - 11/16
509 Lexmas - 12/8
510 Fanatic - January 2006
511 Closer - January 2006
512 Reckoning (100th/Death) - February 2006
513 Vengeance - February 2006

I'm not too concerned about the dates though. The same thing occured in previous years, and we still got full seasons at the end of it all. Thursday nights will just be boring for a while. ;)

Yeah, it's 11/17 when Solitude airs. Just saying.

[Tornado]

Yeah, you're right. Fixed.

[OBSERVER]

I wonder if they're gonna have a sneak peek of Superman Returns in the season finale. Like they did with Batman Begins.

There will be something this Thursday night.

[BartSimpson]

i love SMallville. it is awsome.

[boydston_14]

There will be something this Thursday night.

Damn, I wanted to be the first to post it. :D

[Alien]

That'd be pretty cool.

New clip from 508 Solitude:

http://www.tv.com/smallville/solitude/episode/541500/summary.html

Looks like an excellent episode. Nice to see a little continuity from TPTB in Fine moving away from the meteor rock with Clark, seeing as how he's posing as a Kryptonian and whatnot.
I've only seen two clips of season 5, Clark n Lana and now that one. Fine looks like he's gonna be a fun character to watch.

[chs44d]

I have a couple of questions for the group...

1) I heard a rumour that this could be the last season of the show. Please tell me this is untrue!
2) I think Chloe is going to die this season.
Reasoning behind this:
For Clark to get his powers back he knew there were grave consequences that would follow and that someone close to him would suffer. Last episode Chloe said things like "I would die before I told anyone about your secret." There was a couple other foreshadowing comments that I picked up on. Just wondering if anyone else noticed.

[GreenvilleTexan]

No, the show will be going on for a while. It actually is doing a lot better in the ratings this year than last.
Could be Chloe, she is the last of the remaining main characters which are not directly tied into the mythology in some way (except for Lionel) but the writers and producers may not be tipping their hands so soon. And they have proven they are not sticking with the established mythology completely.
Remember, Clark's father keeps having to tell his mom that "Hey, my heart is just fine!" and he is still around.
Could be just about anybody.

[OBSERVER]

Rest assured, there will be a 7th season at least.

[Tornado]

That'd be nice, but I'm betting it'll end with season six.

Did any of you guys read the summary for 509?

509 - LEXMAS

LEX IS VISITED BY THE GHOST OF CHRISTMAS FUTURE - Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) is given an envelope with damaging information that will destroy Jonathan's (John Schneider) life and must decide whether he will use it as it will also bring harm to Clark (Tom Welling) and Martha (Annette O'Toole). Before he can decide what to do, Lex is shot and falls into a coma. He dreams that his mother (Alisen Down) visits him and shows him the life he could lead if he walks away from his father (John Glover) and LuthorCorp. In this alternate life, Lex is happily married to Lana (Kristin Kreuk) with a baby on the way. Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) asks Clark to use his powers to deliver Christmas presents to needy kids. Erica Durance also stars. Holly Harold wrote the episode directed by Rick Rosenthal.

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It sounds somewhat corny, but I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully with Lana out of the picture, Clark has hooked up with Chloe.

[boydston_14]

Sounds like an interesting episode, I'll probably see it. Who am I kidding? I'd see it anyways.

[GreenvilleTexan]

Do we HAVE to have another redo of "A Christmas Carol"/"It's a Wonderful Life?"
Geez, seems like every television show on earth has done this.
But I'll still watch ... especially is Lois and Chloe wear these little "Santa's Helper" outfits ... :csgrin:

[chs44d]

I always find it funny that they do Christmas episodes at the end of Nov/first week of Dec. I mean you have 4 more weeks until Christmas.

[GreenvilleTexan]

Yeah, but everybody shows repeats/holiday specials/bowl games the last three weeks of the year.

[Tornado]

I thought last night's was a pretty good episode. Better than 507 - Splinter anyway, and that's all I really wanted. I liked Clark's and Fine's fight in the FoS, especially the very beginning when Fine supersped at Clark and he (Clark) just chucked him like a lawndart across the structure. Martha talking to Clark on her death bed was the high point of the episode for me though. I can't imagine Smallville without Annette O'Toole.

Good episode, but doesn't quite match Arrival or Hidden in my mind.

[boydston_14]

I loved last night's episode, but I just kinda got a bit po'd that Fine/Brainiac was 'killed' so easily. From what I've heard, he's gonna be back though, but still, I was a bit ticked off because of it. Otherwise, excellent episode.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

i also heard he'll be back with the other two kryptonians.

[WuTical]

does any one got episodes 1, 2, 5 & 6 from season 5 ?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

depends on what you want. if its just clips, maybe, but if you want the whole thing, that would take too long to upload.

[Tornado]

I've got all eight of the episodes downloaded in high quality AVI files, but there's no way I'm uploading them, sorry. They're about 350 MB a piece.

[Roy_Bluth]

I loved last night's episode, but I just kinda got a bit po'd that Fine/Brainiac was 'killed' so easily. From what I've heard, he's gonna be back though, but still, I was a bit ticked off because of it. Otherwise, excellent episode.
I'm not so sure that Clark did defeat Braniac so easily, maybe Braniac wanted Clark to think he defeated him so he'd have the upperhand, you know, element of suprise or whatever.

What I want to know is, what happened to the ship?

All I know is, this is my favorite Drama show. IMO, this show is better than ever. I know other people prefer the first two seasons.

[WuTical]

I've got all eight of the episodes downloaded in high quality AVI files, but there's no way I'm uploading them, sorry. They're about 350 MB a piece.
Could i just get episode 1 of season 5 ?

that's the only 1 i haven't got yet

[OBSERVER]

Could i just get episode 1 of season 5 ?

that's the only 1 i haven't got yet
Download the program BitComet.

[Tornado]

Could i just get episode 1 of season 5 ?

that's the only 1 i haven't got yet

No. I said I'm not uploading them. It would be quicker for you to just download it than for me to upload it.

[Roy_Bluth]

The WB is planning a special 2-hour Smallville event for Thursday, December 15, where they will be showing the Season 4 finale Commencement and the season 5 premiere Arrival back to back.

My question is will they cut Commencement to make it fit in an hour, or will they cut some commercials out? I hope it's the latter.

[WuTical]

watched all 8 episodes today...all were good except for the vampire one

when is it coming back on t.v. ?

[OBSERVER]

The next new episode, Lexmas, is showing in 2 weeks from Thursday on Dec. 8th.

[GreenvilleTexan]

I still want to know what Brainiac's beef was with Lex Luthor. It couldn't have been that he had the ship, because he could come and go to the ship at any time.
Maybe he just doesn't like bald guys?

[Roy_Bluth]

Maybe he was pretending to hate Lex to get on Clark's good side, or see if Clark would defend him, which he did.

[WuTical]

I still want to know what Brainiac's beef was with Lex Luthor. It couldn't have been that he had the ship, because he could come and go to the ship at any time.

he was trying to turn Clark against him and he was trying to get on Clark's good side so Clark would destory the F.O.S.

[Alien]

he was trying to turn Clark against him and he was trying to get on Clark's good side so Clark would destory the F.O.S.
Prob a stupid and obvious question but why did he was Clark to destroy the FOS?

[Tornado]

Prob a stupid and obvious question but why did he was Clark to destroy the FOS?

Well, if you're asking:

Prob a stupid and obvious question, but why did he (Fine) try to make Clark destroy the FOS?

It's because Fine convinced Clark that Jor-El had been the one who sent the disease to Earth with which Martha came into contact. Fine told Clark that Jor-El's only connection to Earth was through the FOS, so by destroying that he'd eliminate the disease and Martha would be cured (which, obviously turned out to be a lie).

[Alien]

Well, if you're asking:

Prob a stupid and obvious question, but why did he (Fine) try to make Clark destroy the FOS?

It's because Fine convinced Clark that Jor-El had been the one who sent the disease to Earth with which Martha came into contact. Fine told Clark that Jor-El's only connection to Earth was through the FOS, so by destroying that he'd eliminate the disease and Martha would be cured (which, obviously turned out to be a lie).
Well I knew that, kinda, but the way WuTical put it it read like that his plan all along to get Clark to destroy the FOS. Also, was Martha the only one who got the disease?

[Tornado]

Well I knew that, kinda, but the way WuTical put it it read like that his plan all along to get Clark to destroy the FOS. Also, was Martha the only one who got the disease?

Well I think his plan all along was to free Zod, but he had to have Clark destroy the FOS before that could happen.

Yeah, Martha was the only recipient of the disease. The disease was from Professor Fine as far as I could tell, and he only gave it to her so that Clark could be tricked into destroying the FOS. Sending it to other people wouldn't really accomplish much of anything.

[Roy_Bluth]

What was Lionel playing on the piano at the end? Did it have any significance?

[Klimber]

Maybe the FOS destruction also reset Lionel back to "evil, heart of ice, kill my own son, kung fu grip" Lionel. Dunno.

[JasonLV]

is it just me or is Smallville gonna finally show Superman soon?

[Neverending]

So, Lex is visited by the ghost of Christmas future. Will we see a cameo by Superman?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

i think it's an alternate future. so i dont think we'll see Supes. maybe Lois and Clark, but no Supes.

[Roy_Bluth]

No Superman. The episode is about what life would be if he left his father, so he wouldn't be evil, therefore he wouldn't be battling Superman.

But it sounds like an interesting episode.

[Klimber]

Sounds sweet.

[Neverending]

Just because Lex isn't fighting Superman doesn't mean he doesn't exist. And, they mention that Clark delivers presents around the world or something of that nature.

[OBSERVER]

Clark delivering presents is not part of the dream.
Lex's dream does not take up the entire episode.

[Neverending]

So, now it's a dream? Damn, I thought he was actually gonna be visited by the ghost of Christmas future. I guess he just took some acid pills.

[Roy_Bluth]

Lex on acid would be funny.

[Neverending]

Indeed it would.

[OBSERVER]

Wishful thinking here, but I would like to see a Bruce Wayne cameo next season. Would prefer it to be Christian Bale. Something like a quick business meeting with Lex at least.

[hard2hold]

As long as we're wishing....I wish this show would stop with the fluff & get going with the Legend part of it. Sorry if I offend but I'm kinda tired of the teeny-bopper imaging that they do.

[Tornado]

I tend to agree actually.

I remember the trailers for this season talking about how this season would be 'Legend' and whatnot. While we've had a few cool things (the 'discussion' between Clark and Chloe, the formation of the FOS, Clark dying, Aquaman, and Brainiac), I wouldn't really call this season legendary just yet. Maybe after 512 - Reckoning (the big 'Death' episode) my view will change. I'm just hoping Clark gets a new power this season. Personally I'm hoping for his Super/Freeze breath. I know some people would argue that his Super Jump is a new power, but he's technically had that since S1, because all he's doing is using the super strength in his legs to pump himself into the air.

Oh, and I don't know if people have seen this or not yet (you have if you watched the repeat Spirit this past Thursday), but here's the trailer for 509 - Lexmas:

Link (http://thewb.warnerbros.com/web/video_player_frame.jsp?id=SM509-trl)

[Roy_Bluth]

Wishful thinking here, but I would like to see a Bruce Wayne cameo next season. Would prefer it to be Christian Bale. Something like a quick business meeting with Lex at least.

They said they'll never have Bruce Wayne on, but then again, they also said on the commentary for a season one episode, they'd never have Brainiac on, so you never know.

But the Bruce Wayne thing may be different, contractually I mean. I guess only time will tell.

Personally I don't see it happening, I think Batman and Superman are supposed to be the same age, so isn't Bruce Wayne training to be Batman right now? If so, how, and why would he go to Smallville?

I remember the trailers for this season talking about how this season would be 'Legend' and whatnot. While we've had a few cool things (the 'discussion' between Clark and Chloe, the formation of the FOS, Clark dying, Aquaman, and Brainiac), I wouldn't really call this season legendary just yet. Maybe after 512 - Reckoning (the big 'Death' episode) my view will change.

The season isn't even half way over yet, be patient. The stuff you mentioned above (the 'discussion' between Clark and Chloe, the formation of the FOS, Clark dying, Aquaman, and Brainiac) happened in 7 episodes, we have about 14 or 15 episodes left, there's no telling what could happen in that amount of time, it could very well be LEGENDARY.

I'm just hoping Clark gets a new power this season. Personally I'm hoping for his Super/Freeze breath. I know some people would argue that his Super Jump is a new power, but he's technically had that since S1, because all he's doing is using the super strength in his legs to pump himself into the air.

I remember him doing that in the second season, in the episode where his mom and Lionel Luther were being held hostage, so he had to jump from the Daily Planet Building to Lionel luther's building, but I don't remember him doing it in the first season.

[Tornado]

The season isn't even half way over yet, be patient. The stuff you mentioned above (the 'discussion' between Clark and Chloe, the formation of the FOS, Clark dying, Aquaman, and Brainiac) happened in 7 episodes, we have about 14 or 15 episodes left, there's no telling what could happen in that amount of time, it could very well be LEGENDARY.

I'm skeptical to say the least.

I remember him doing that in the second season, in the episode where his mom and Lionel Luther were being held hostage, so he had to jump from the Daily Planet Building to Lionel luther's building, but I don't remember him doing it in the first season.

I didn't say he used it in S1, I said he's been able to use it since S1 (and long before I'm sure). Super jumping is not a power like his heat vision or x-ray vision is. It's just super strength in his legs.

[Roy_Bluth]

His strength develops the more he soaks in the sun's rays, unlike the x-ray vision or heat vision which just suddenly clicked on. So he may have been able to jump, but probably never that far before.

Who would win in a fight, early comic book Superman, or the Incredible Hulk from the 2003 movie?

[OBSERVER]

Personally I don't see it happening, I think Batman and Superman are supposed to be the same age, so isn't Bruce Wayne training to be Batman right now? If so, how, and why would he go to Smallville?
More specifically, Metropolis. It is possible to have him around in his late teens/early twenties. He attended school around that age. His training was off and on around then wasn't it? In Batman Begins, he didn't leave the country for 7 years until he was a bit older than Clark Kent is in Smallville at the moment.

[OBSERVER]

I figured there would be more floating of some kind by now.
It happened way back in the first season.

[Neverending]

Honestly I would just like this show to end and for them to start a whole new show with Tom as Superman. But it may never happen.

[Freelow]

Well, it looks like that Chloe is not the one to die in episode 100. According to Kryptonsite.com, two episodes after the death-episode, the character becomes posessed by someone who died 10 years prior to the possessing.

Additionally, Krpytonsite.com says that Lois has a possible new love interest in a new character who is involoved with the law. So, that makes two characters who make it through Episode 100.

So, let the guessing begin again. Who dies in Episode 100?

While I was pulling for Chloe to die to push along the Superman history, now that I know that she makes it, I hope it is Lionel. If his death is viewed by Lex as being caused or not prevented by Clark, this could place a huge wedge between the two further developing their rivalry.

I just hope that it is a very significant death - not a death to just have someone die. Make it advance the plot of the show.

[WuTical]

most likely it'll be his dad

[Roy_Bluth]

When does this episode air?

[Tornado]

It's rumored for February. There's another big break coming up between episodes 509 and 510. And by big, I mean three or four weeks.

[Roy_Bluth]

Well that sucks. I thought there was a break between "Lexmas" and whatever the next episode after that is, But February?! That's ridiculous.

[Tornado]

Well, it kind of makes sense. 509 is this coming Thursday. 510 and 511 are in January. 512 will air in early February. And then the rest of the episodes will air without a break.

And just in case someone doesn't know what the titles of the following episodes are:

509 - Lexmas (12/8/05)
510 - Fanatic (January 2006)
511 - Lockdown (January 2006)
512 - Reckoning (100th Episode) (February 2006)
513 - Vengeance (February 2006)
514 - Tomb (February 2006)

[OBSERVER]

Expect a slightly shorter break in between March and April.



I hope Lionel makes it until the end of the season. He is very mysterious now. I always look forward to scenes with him and Lex.

[Roy_Bluth]

Can't wait for the episodes to come back, they're sounding good.

I hope Lionel makes it until the end of the season. He is very mysterious now. I always look forward to scenes with him and Lex.

That's true.

[JasonLV]

I was just wondering in the old superman movies with Gene Hackman and Chris Reeves..........Wasn't Lana Lang in one of them?

[OBSERVER]

Yeah, the same actress that is playing Martha Kent now.

[spiderman_2k]

Anette O'Toole only played her in Part 3.

[JasonLV]

hmmmm so do you think Lana will find out about Clark and maybe she gives him the idea about becoming superman? Maybe Chole and Lana both present him this idea?

[OBSERVER]

Chloe alone is enough to present that idea, but I doubt Lana will ever know.

[Alien]

Anette O'Toole only played her in Part 3.
Was Lana in another Superman movie?

[Freelow]

Was Lana in another Superman movie?

The character of Lana Lang was in the first Superman movie. She was in the scene when Clark gets pissed off because he can't play football; that all he could be is the equipment manager.

Once she drives off with her friends, he kicks a football across the county. He then proceeds to run home. On his trip, he runs side-by-side with the train that has the actress who played Lois Lane in the TV show as the passenger with her daughter. He gets to his house right before Lana and her friends drive by, shocked that Clark somehow beat them there.

Okay, that was scary that I remembered all of that.:)

[GreenvilleTexan]

That's OK, it was one of the best scenes of the movie.
Anyone know whatever happened to the guy who played the young Clark Kent in that movie?

[Freelow]

That's OK, it was one of the best scenes of the movie.
Anyone know whatever happened to the guy who played the young Clark Kent in that movie?

Supermanhomepage.com did an interview with him in November 2004. Here is an excerpt:

Q: Can you please tell us a little about yourself and what you're now doing?

.....I went on to make around 40 films for the big screen and TV. I decide in 1987 to get into Real Estate development with my Father and in February 2004 I decided to move back to Kansas City to take over my father's commercial real estate company. I have two children ages 17 and 20. Alexander my son, a film student at Brooks Institute and my Daughter Madison a senior at a southern California school. I am engaged to be married to Elise Vega from Los Angeles. She is in real estate as well.

For the full interview, go to http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/movies.php?topic=interview-jeff-east

[insaneMoViEgoer]

The character of Lana Lang was in the first Superman movie. She was in the scene when Clark gets pissed off because he can't play football; that all he could be is the equipment manager.

Once she drives off with her friends, he kicks a football across the county. He then proceeds to run home. On his trip, he runs side-by-side with the train that has the actress who played Lois Lane in the TV show as the passenger with her daughter. He gets to his house right before Lana and her friends drive by, shocked that Clark somehow beat them there.

Okay, that was scary that I remembered all of that.:)
it's ok, i remember it too. you left out the jackass that messes up all of Clarks work ;) :P

[Roy_Bluth]

Yeah, I guess that's supposed to be Whitney. Even though Whitney doesn't exist in the Superman mythology.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

his name is actually Brad in the movie, but i guess that was the basis of the Whitney character if thats where they got it from.

[Roy_Bluth]

Yeah, I don't know how Clark never killed him.

[Klimber]

Yeah a good thump in the back of the skull should do the trick.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

he's dead anyway.

[boydston_14]

Man, I'll miss tonight's episode. We have our Christmas Concert tonight. Isn't this going to be the 'Lexmas' episode?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

yes, that is tonights episode

[Tornado]

I'm so pumped for tonight's episode. The trailer really wowed me, as did the clip at AOL.com.

[the elmo zombie]

i have a question

so i have been watching all the dvds to see what ive been missing and on season four with lois lane it seems like shes only in 5 episodes. is this true or is she a regular cast member?

[Tornado]

She's a 'guest star' for several episodes in season four, and a 'regular' in season five I guess. She was in more than five episodes in season four though (this is off the top of my head, so there may be more):

401 - Crusade
402 - Gone
403 - Facade
404 - Devoted
408 - Spell
412 - Pariah
413 - Recruit
414 - Krypto
416 - Lucy
418 - Spirit
419 - Blank
421 - Forever
422 - Commencement

And I thought tonight's episode was terrific. I'm a big fan of the Lex-central episodes, and this one was no different. I'll probably have a full review up by the weekend (something new I'm going to start trying).

[Neverending]

I don't know. This episode seemed kinda lame to me. So, Lex becomes evil because he no longer wants to loose those who love him? I guess I understand that. But why the heck does his mother show him that? That was kinda dumb.

[WuTical]

Weak episode

the whole santa taking all the gifts was dumb as hell

[Neverending]

I wouldn't say dumb, but just point-less. I felt like I was watching two episodes at the same time. lol.

[Roy_Bluth]

Two much for your brain to handle? LOL

[Neverending]

No, I can handle it, but I just didn't see how it was relevant. Lex gets shot and only Lionel finds out about it. I'm surprised Jonathan didn't get a call about his opponent getting shot. I'm surprised Chloe wasn't assigned to cover that case. etc etc etc.

I like the idea of Clark delivering presents, but the whole Santa thing was pointless. Just the producers way of throwing "messages" at us. And, I thought it was weird that no one else was connected to the Lex plot.

[WuTical]

No, I can handle it, but I just didn't see how it was relevant. Lex gets shot and only Lionel finds out about it. I'm surprised Jonathan didn't get a call about his opponent getting shot. I'm surprised Chloe wasn't assigned to cover that case. etc etc etc.


it wasn't about chole or anyone else

it was about what would happen if Lex didn't try to destroy Jonathon Kent

[Neverending]

it was about what would happen if Lex didn't try to destroy Jonathon Kent

Did you see the episode? Like 10 minutes of the episode was devoted to that.

[Tornado]

CONFIRMED BY THE WB

#5-10 "Fanatic" - 1/12/06 8PM
#5-11 "Lockdown" - 1/19/06 8PM
#5-12 "Reckoning" 100TH EPISODE! - 1/26/06 8PM
#5-13 "Vengeance" - 2/2/06 8PM
#5-14 "Tomb" - 2/9/06 8PM
#5-15 Title Not Yet Announced - 2/16/06 8PM

[Neverending]

#5-12 "Reckoning" 100TH EPISODE! - 1/26/06 8PM
#5-13 "Vengeance" - 2/2/06 8PM
#5-14 "Tomb" - 2/9/06 8PM

So, in episode #100 someone dies.
In episode #101, Clark gets revenge on the person who caused that death.
And, episode #102 is the funeral.

I smell a Jonathan Kent.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

i don't know. it's one of those "it's too obvious to do it, but to obvious to not do it" things.

[Roy_Bluth]

Wouldn't it be awesome if Lex killed one of Clark's parents? That would really get things going.

Did the episode reveal who shot Lex?

So new episodes start January 12th? That leaves 4 weeks of reruns, I was hoping they'd rerun Lexmas before new episodes started but that's probably too much to ask for.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

why would they need to reveal who shot him? you already see who does it when he gets shot.

[the elmo zombie]

ok so i just finished the 4th season on dvd and i want to start watching it on tv but i dont know whats goin on. is there any way i can view the episodes?

[OBSERVER]

Well, you have some luck since next Thursday is going to show the end of season 4 and the beginning of season 5.

[the elmo zombie]

ok good i dont want to be all lost when the new episodes start again

[the elmo zombie]

oh cool are they gonna show any of the other episodes after that on upcoming thursdays?

[insaneMoViEgoer]

most likely yes.

[Neverending]

i don't know. it's one of those "it's too obvious to do it, but to obvious to not do it" things.

Jonathan Kent is gonna die sooner or later. They might as well get it over with and drive Clark to the edge. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him the same speech as in Superman: The Movie. "With all these power. . ."

[JasonLV]

Jonathan Kent shouldn't die.......he was still alive when Clark was Superman right? So why change the story even more?

[Neverending]

I believe Jonathan Kent stays alives in post-crisis, but in pre-crisis he dies before Clark becomes Superman. So, I don't know which direction they're gonna go in.

[Tornado]

Episode 515 now has a title:

515 - Cyborg

I don't know if any of you are familiar with Cyborg from the Teen Titans or not, but it's about him.

[Neverending]

I thought Cyborg was a movie from the `80s starring Jean-Claude Van Damme.

[GreenvilleTexan]

It was also the name of the Martin Caidin novel which became "The Six Million Dollar Man".

[Neverending]

Really? Did not know that!

[Angelixx]

Episode 515 now has a title:

515 - Cyborg

I don't know if any of you are familiar with Cyborg from the Teen Titans or not, but it's about him.


i am familiar with that character and are you kidding me ???? :confused:

[Tornado]

i am familiar with that character and are you kidding me ???? :confused:

Nope, it's in the News section at www.kryptonsite.com. The only thing about this news that I'm really disappointed at, is that Cyborg is a pretty weak character as far as I'm concerned. I wanted to see more of the classic characters. If it were up to me, this is how the schedule for DC character guest spots would work:

Late S5 - Oliver Queen (Green Arrow)
Early S6 - Diana (Wonder Woman)
Middle S6 - Hal Jordan (Green Lantern)
Late S6 - Bruce Wayne (obviously, Batman)

They would all work similarly to the Flash and Aquaman episodes; they'd have their powers but wouldn't be the superhero just yet. Bruce would come in to the episode trying to buy out LexCorp or something, but he wouldn't be Batman just yet. It could be a detective-esque episode, showing that side of Bruce.

[Neverending]

I think Bruce Wayne is too busy traveling the world at the moment.