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Neverending

05-25-2004, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Soulless
I think Lex knows Clark is Superman in the comics so he wouldn't have to change a thing.

But that doesn't happen right away. Superman doesn't show up in Metropolis and have Lex find out in a week. It takes time for Luthor to find out Clark and Superman are one in the same. It takes a lot of time.

The same goes for Green Goblin and Spider-Man. It took years for Green Goblin to find out.

At this point there is no other option then to turn Clark into Superman Blue and have his Clark/Superman be like Dean Cain's Clark/Superman. With the exception of the costume of course.

Klimber

05-25-2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Neverending
At this point there is no other option then to turn Clark into Superman Blue and have his Clark/Superman be like Dean Cain's Clark/Superman. With the exception of the costume of course.

I would think there are plenty of other options still available. If there is one thing seen at this show, is the comic mythos is just a general blue print for plotlines, certainly not set in stone.

Neverending

05-25-2004, 08:29 PM

Regardless, at the end of the day Clark Kent will go to Metropolis and become SUPERMAN. Then what? Unless Tom Welling drastically changes his Superman we'll have a Superman and Clark Kent who are very similar. Which we already had in 1993 with Dean Cain.

Neverending

05-25-2004, 08:33 PM

Don't get me wrong. Clark/Kal-El/Superman are the same person, but not to the public. Its just like Batman. To the public Bruce Wayne is this rich playboy, but in reality he is the Dark Knight. Clark Kent is supposed to be weak and simple-minded. The guy from Smallville as Lois Lane says. However, he really is the heroic Superman who stands for truth, justice, and the American way. Having Clark and Superman interact in public with the same personality (alas Dean Cain) would affect the program.

Soulless

05-25-2004, 08:39 PM

Superman Blue is not the anwser any way you look at at. While I thought Electric Superman looked cool it was not Superman. They changed him back because it made the comic fans really pissed, so having that version in a motion picture, whether it be television or the theater, would probably get the same hype as Batman and Robin. With the way they're going now, with Lex becoming more and more aware that something is amiss about Clark, when he finally sees Superman in Metropolis and sees that it is Clark it would then drive Lex's hatred for Clark even moreso, I think. All these years Lex has known something is different about Clark, Superman shows up, Lex sees him and finally everything is made perfectly clear which to me would drive Lex over the edge even more because Clark never told him. Also, really, Electric Superman's face is not covered at all so it wouldn't help anyway.

Originally posted by Neverending
Don't get me wrong. Clark/Kal-El/Superman are the same person, but not to the public. Its just like Batman. To the public Bruce Wayne is this rich playboy, but in reality he is the Dark Knight. Clark Kent is supposed to be weak and simple-minded. The guy from Smallville as Lois Lane says. However, he really is the heroic Superman who stands for truth, justice, and the American way. Having Clark and Superman interact in public with the same personality (alas Dean Cain) would affect the program.
While becoming a reporter, something we haven't seen him get into much of yet, he could become really nerdy.

Neverending

05-25-2004, 09:12 PM

Clark doesn't have to be nerdy. This is post-crisis that we are dealing with. Clark is just a simple man from a small town. He has old-fashion values. He is perceived from the public as weak and out of place. A stranger to the big city.

Anyway, the problem with your theory is that when Lex sees Superman and knows that he is Clark everything will go to hell. He would expose Clark's secret. He will harm his family and friends. Clark Kent would be dead from that moment on. He's gonna have to get his parents and hide them somewhere. Then just stay in the North Pole and have no friends.

Neverending

05-25-2004, 09:13 PM

There will also be no time to develop the Clark/Lois romance. If Lois knows early on that Clark is Superman then where's the love triangle between Clark, Lois, and Superman?!

Soulless

05-25-2004, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Neverending
Clark doesn't have to be nerdy. This is post-crisis that we are dealing with. Clark is just a simple man from a small town. He has old-fashion values. He is perceived from the public as weak and out of place. A stranger to the big city.

Anyway, the problem with your theory is that when Lex sees Superman and knows that he is Clark everything will go to hell. He would expose Clark's secret. He will harm his family and friends. Clark Kent would be dead from that moment on. He's gonna have to get his parents and hide them somewhere. Then just stay in the North Pole and have no friends.
Despite Lex finding out after a while in the comics that Clark is Superman none of the above has to happen because it doesn't in the comics. Sure, Lex attacks Clarks family, but he doesn't make it a habit. By saying nerdy I meant out of place. And also Kingpin knows Mat Murdock is Daredevil and he tryed to expose him but nobody believed Kingpin so it doesn't have to be where Lex tells the world and everyone suddenly believes, he would need proof.

Neverending

05-25-2004, 10:32 PM

Lex doesn't do anything extreme because by the time he finds out he still uses him. Lex has learned how to balance the hate with the usefullness that is Superman. More then once Lex Luthor has sougth for Superman's help.

Lex Luthor basically enjoys using Superman as much as he enjoys hating him. If Lex finds out to quickly then there isn't going to be time for the love/hate relationship to develop. Even though he already has a history with Clark thru Smallville. Right away I don't think Lex would realize how useful Superman really is. He is just gonna see Clark Kent flying around saving people without be able to study him and battle him to get to know him.

Baadshah

05-26-2004, 06:50 AM

love ur avatar

Klimber

05-26-2004, 11:00 AM

Maybe Clark can meet up the Wondertwins and they can get all the media attention. I mean who wouln't want their picture with Gleek the monyey?

I see a major change in the overall head gear portion of Smallvilles version of Superman's suit. So that they have a more cleaver way to show the seperation between Clark and Superman. That is to say that the show even comes to that.

An a different topic from the finale I am suprised that no one has mentioned the cool power the Cara had that vaporized the Rouge FBI guy that was snooping on Clark, car and all. I mean what was that, some variation of the heat vision but on the sub atomic level? Was this ever a power shown in the comics?

Soulless

05-26-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Neverending
Lex doesn't do anything extreme because by the time he finds out he still uses him. Lex has learned how to balance the hate with the usefullness that is Superman. More then once Lex Luthor has sougth for Superman's help.

Lex Luthor basically enjoys using Superman as much as he enjoys hating him. If Lex finds out to quickly then there isn't going to be time for the love/hate relationship to develop. Even though he already has a history with Clark thru Smallville. Right away I don't think Lex would realize how useful Superman really is. He is just gonna see Clark Kent flying around saving people without be able to study him and battle him to get to know him. On the show Lex is a very intelligent person so by saying that there is no time for the love/hate relationship to begin isn't true at all. It's developing right now on the show; why does everything have to begin in Metropolis? Lex has been watching Clark since season one but hasn't quite figured out what makes him different. Lex could always find out on the show without Clark knowing he knows, which would give him plenty of time to study Clark by setting traps and tests for him.

Originally posted by Klimber
An a different topic from the finale I am suprised that no one has mentioned the cool power the Cara had that vaporized the Rouge FBI guy that was snooping on Clark, car and all. I mean what was that, some variation of the heat vision but on the sub atomic level? Was this ever a power shown in the comics? It's a power The Eradicator has.

Alien

05-26-2004, 06:07 PM

I just noticed that they killed the Janitor of Sacred Hart in last weeks show. Who's going to pick on JD now? (Confused yet?)Originally posted by Klimber
some variation of the heat vision Was it meat vision like in fairy odd parents? :applaud: I love that show.
http://www.thenorthwest.com/image_FairlyOddParents/70961_DeliciouslyMagical.gif

Neverending

05-26-2004, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Soulless
Lex could always find out on the show without Clark knowing he knows, which would give him plenty of time to study Clark by setting traps and tests for him.

Yeah, even though Clark already knows Lex is on to him. Remember the whole *****in' war between them in like the last 30 minutes.

Besides if Clark meets Jor-El this upcoming season he will tell Clark to watch out and sleep with one-eye open. Also by the looks of it Lex's father will be running the show this upcoming season. That poison ***** was a very clever trick. Lex is gonna have to watch out for his father this upcoming season.

Alien

05-26-2004, 07:14 PM

What the hell are you on about what have I not see yet!!! (Where is the smilie ripping it's hair out?)

Neverending

05-26-2004, 07:57 PM

Its been a week.

Soulless

05-26-2004, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Neverending
Yeah, even though Clark already knows Lex is on to him. Remember the whole *****in' war between them in like the last 30 minutes.

Besides if Clark meets Jor-El this upcoming season he will tell Clark to watch out and sleep with one-eye open. Also by the looks of it Lex's father will be running the show this upcoming season. That poison ***** was a very clever trick. Lex is gonna have to watch out for his father this upcoming season. Clark knows Lex is onto him, yes, but when Lex finds out it doesn't mean Clark has to know. For all Clark knows Lex could still be looking for anwsers.

I see Lionel dying at the end of next season and the whole cave/evil Jor-El thing being explained and resolved so it would only make sence that next season would revolve around Lionel trying to kill his son and Clark. I wouldn't be surprised if Lionel finds out about Clarks secret next season somehow.

Alien

05-26-2004, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Neverending
Its been a week. What's been a week?

poeman

05-26-2004, 08:16 PM

i being told that the series finale is rumoured to come verry soon, and the so called last episode has Clark in metropolis , and one of the villians is terrorizing, and clark gets angry and tears a side of his suit/ shirt and we see him begin to run and he zooms up. we only see him go up , we dont see him fly all the way to the sky. but we see a glimpse of costume and the S.

Soulless

05-26-2004, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by poeman
i being told that the series finale is rumoured to come verry soon, and the so called last episode has Clark in metropolis , and one of the villians is terrorizing, and clark gets angry and tears a side of his suit/ shirt and we see him begin to run and he zooms up. we only see him go up , we dont see him fly all the way to the sky. but we see a glimpse of costume and the S. Where have you seen this rumor? I seriously doubt we'll see any of the costume on Tom Welling, and I'll be surprised if they end the show after four seasons.

poeman

05-26-2004, 09:23 PM

not season 4 give it 2 or at most 3 more seasons. then the franchise is going make way for the movies.

Soulless

05-26-2004, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by poeman
not season 4 give it 2 or at most 3 more seasons. then the franchise is going make way for the movies.
You said that you heard that it was going to end very soon, which makes it sound like you were saying season four was it. Two or three more seasons isn't a long time, but it's not very soon either.

poeman

05-26-2004, 09:41 PM

The series finale looks solid from what im hearing the tension

Soulless

05-26-2004, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by poeman
The series finale looks solid from what im hearing the tension Where are you hearing about a series finale? If there's going to be two or three more seasons, as you some how claim there is, then why would they be talking about the series finale already? I doubt there's any offical talk of it this soon, only fan rumors and speculation.

Klimber

05-27-2004, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Neverending
Its been a week.

It does not matter if it has been a week or not. People please be respectful to our member who live across the pond and use spoiler tags for at least a month after a show airs. Even though you may have seen the finale the folks in the UK are a full two shows behind. It does make a big deal.

sphericthor

06-01-2004, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Klimber
It does not matter if it has been a week or not. People please be respectful to our member who live across the pond and use spoiler tags for at least a month after a show airs. Even though you may have seen the finale the folks in the UK are a full two shows behind. It does make a big deal.

That's why I have avoided this thread for so long....... there are some people over here in the UK that haven't even seen any of the last series yet because it hasn't been shown on terrestrial TV yet............ Like you said it does make a big deal when people give away details

Now on to the season finale which was aired last night

HOW COULD THEY END IT LIKE THAT!?! That was just plain evil leaving it like that.......... they better have an excellent episode lined up for the next season opener

Alien

06-01-2004, 08:22 AM

Only half a year to wait... :waa:

Klimber

06-01-2004, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by sphericthor
That's why I have avoided this thread for so long....... there are some people over here in the UK that haven't even seen any of the last series yet because it hasn't been shown on terrestrial TV yet............ Like you said it does make a big deal when people give away details

Now on to the season finale which was aired last night

HOW COULD THEY END IT LIKE THAT!?! That was just plain evil leaving it like that.......... they better have an excellent episode lined up for the next season opener

I foresee a Clark rebeling against Jor-el and some how escaping. That or Martha Kent tacticly nuking the Cave. Actually the next season should be a real interesting season premire. Lots to explain.

mOVIEmONSTER

06-02-2004, 08:01 PM

Soulless

06-02-2004, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by mOVIEmONSTER
What was the reason for Lionelle Luthers head shave at the end?... It could symbolize him taking off the perverbial gloves.

Klimber

06-03-2004, 12:59 PM

Yeah I loved the whole last couple of minutes because the tough inmate enters the cell and you are telling yourself "Oh Crap, Luthor is about to become someone bytch" but then they show the various acts or revenge as Luthor is getting his buzz cut and you see the true evil seething behind his eyes. Very pissed off guy.

Soulless

06-15-2004, 01:39 AM

Looks like there's going to be a new character next season...
KryptonSite
Added 6/14: A new possibly ongoing character is coming to Smallville. The character is Jason Teague, an American college junior who is "charming, broad-shouldered," and will definitely serve to open Lana up a little bit. The two of them meet in Paris, and he may be coming back to the "leafy little hamlet" with her. They have a great time in Europe, racing through the Alps on a motorbike, seeing the Notre Dame, and more. (Oh, and those of you who are snarking that it'll be on a Vespa and not a real motorbike - go to the head of the class!)
- Apparently Lex is going to come visit Lana in Europe. Guess that means he'll be okay ;) "I feel like I'm not the person he said goodbye to. I've changed so much," Lana says. One might even be able to gleam that over the summer Lana had developed some feelings for him.I put that last part in spoiler tags because it might upset some people to know about the fate of the above character, not that it wasn't obvious that they're okay.

Klimber

06-15-2004, 10:48 AM

They need new blood on this show. Make that non zombie, non bleeding from the eyes...FOTS (Freak of the season) kind of new blood. Clark needs a new guy buddy who does not know his secret. Pete became a real pain in the bum the last season.

Pete psudo-quote "Clark I know I screwed up again but you can use your powers to fix it for me...Right? Buddy?"

spiderman_2k

06-15-2004, 05:43 PM

casting call has gone out to agents for the role of Lois Lane, a "recurring guest star for the first four episodes" of Season Four.

The breakdown describes Lois as "caucasian, smart, beautiful, urban, headstrong, and no-nonsense." It says she was an Army kid who moved around every two years. She lost her mother at a young age and helped to raise her young sister, which made her mature beyond her years.

Her father, Sam Lane, is a "high-ranking general" in the U.S. Army. Lois has no room for small talk or superstition, and she has a long history of defying her father and asserting her independence.

The breakdown says that Sam always wanted a son rather than a daughter and thus raised Lois to be hard as nails, like a perfect soldier. Lois hides her vulnerability with sarcasm and wit... much like her cousin, Chloe.

At this point in her life, Lois is in her early twenties and has no interest in journalism. She's in Smallville to investigate the death of Chloe. (We still don't believe Chloe is dead, so don't worry!)

Breakdowns have also gone out for the role of Jason Teague, who is in his early 20's and "incredibly handsome and sexy." He was raised a rich kid in Metropolis. He likes to escape to far away places every summer, and this time it happens to be Paris. "Jason is the guy everyone wants as his best friend," the breakdown says. Jason is a football player who is always looking to spite his parents. He's currently pursuing a degree in education at Metropolis University. Jason could be from a Caucasion or Latino background, and the role is a "series regular."

Klimber

06-18-2004, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by spiderman_2k

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casting call has gone out to agents for the role of Lois Lane, a "recurring guest star for the first four episodes" of Season Four.

The breakdown describes Lois as "caucasian, smart, beautiful, urban, headstrong, and no-nonsense." It says she was an Army kid who moved around every two years. She lost her mother at a young age and helped to raise her young sister, which made her mature beyond her years.

Her father, Sam Lane, is a "high-ranking general" in the U.S. Army. Lois has no room for small talk or superstition, and she has a long history of defying her father and asserting her independence.

The breakdown says that Sam always wanted a son rather than a daughter and thus raised Lois to be hard as nails, like a perfect soldier. Lois hides her vulnerability with sarcasm and wit... much like her cousin, Chloe.

At this point in her life, Lois is in her early twenties and has no interest in journalism. She's in Smallville to investigate the death of Chloe. (We still don't believe Chloe is dead, so don't worry!)

Breakdowns have also gone out for the role of Jason Teague, who is in his early 20's and "incredibly handsome and sexy." He was raised a rich kid in Metropolis. He likes to escape to far away places every summer, and this time it happens to be Paris. "Jason is the guy everyone wants as his best friend," the breakdown says. Jason is a football player who is always looking to spite his parents. He's currently pursuing a degree in education at Metropolis University. Jason could be from a Caucasion or Latino background, and the role is a "series regular."
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This all sounds familiar, A call for Lois in her early twenties (ie in college) and has no interest in journalism. Hmmm

The Jason casting call does not say anything about the Actor having to be OK with blood come from the eyes so this could actually be a worth while character. Adam in many ways was a waste of a character.

Soulless

06-22-2004, 01:34 AM

KryptonSite
Update: Season 4 On October 6?
We have received reports that people have seen billboards promoting Smallville that say Season 4 will begin on October 6, 2004. However, we have yet to see any of these billboards. So, if anyone can provide photographic evidence, or if anyone "official" wants to confirm this, e-mail us!

UPDATE: We have told that if it's not October 6, will most likely be SOMETIME in October, possibly "mid to late October," and we were told the original posters may have been confused, but about something just as good... read the next news article below!

Smallville Repeats Start On ABC Family Oct. 4
In what might be good cross-promotion for the new season, the ABC Family cable network will begin showing daily repeats of Smallville on Monday, October 4, 2004 at 7PM. Mark your calendars! Daily Smallville goodness... mmm. The upcoming daily repeats may be the reason why the WB hasn't shown the series much this summer.Sounds good to me. The more Smallville the better.

Klimber

06-23-2004, 09:11 AM

Damn you October! Why are you so far away?!? Arggg, Why do you taunt me.

spiderman_2k

06-23-2004, 09:27 AM

Even longer for me...:(

G-Matrix

06-23-2004, 10:36 AM

I've seen the last episode and it was just great!!! I loved the analogy at then end to the Godfather's end

Klimber

06-23-2004, 12:14 PM

Here is a few questions for you...the cave which we assume is being manipulated by Jor-El sent Kara to collect Clark. How did this cave keep her in some kind of stasis all these years since the meteor shower? Do you think that she is a clone of some kind and the real girl who was believed killed during the meteor shower was the first sample of DNA available?

Soulless

06-23-2004, 09:46 PM

I think she was kept in stasis in that place Clark was at the end of the finale.

Klimber

06-25-2004, 11:47 AM

That must mean that the cave was already under evil control at the time of the meteor storm that brought Kal-el to earth

Soulless

06-25-2004, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Klimber
That must mean that the cave was already under evil control at the time of the meteor storm that brought Kal-el to earth Kara did say that she had been waiting in the cave for all those years, so I would image that it was I suppose.

Soulless

06-30-2004, 08:37 PM

Some spoilers for Season 4 from KryptonSite...

Added 6/30: The title of the episode is "Crusade."
- The episode begins "Three months later..." Someone finds something in a shield-shaped chamber in Egypt. Something is found - a statue of the Egyptian sun god Ra. Suddenly, a man steps out, wearing a white suit backlit by the sun.
- Clark and Lois try to get into a hospital, and Lois says "There's a guy here who needs assistance." She claims he has amnesia so she doesn't really know who he is. (Shouldn't the Smallville Medical folks recognize him by now?)
- Clark steps to a window and sees his reflection for what seems like his first time. As he looks, the blanket he's wearing falls, causing Lois to deadpan that he may need a gown first.
- Lex lies in a filtration chamber on a jet, we assume recovering from the poison. Outside the jet, the captain sees something. "What is it? A bird or a plane?" We don't know...
- Lex is traveling to Egypt; perhaps having something to do with the teaser scene. He instructs a man named Tariq to hide any evidence of him ever being there.
- The casting pages have certain bits blacked out, but we could swear we see the name "CHLOE" among the blacked-out lines... meaning it seems Chloe may be alive and well, despite the graveside service. If that is indeed Chloe, her scenes take place in the Smallville Torch.
- Clark and Lois first meet as Lois is visiting Chloe's grave, in a scene that may bring back memories of Clark and Lana's first real exchange of dialogue in the Smallville pilot episode.
- For some reason plastic flowers are placed instead of real ones.
- For more details on what the character of Lois may be like, visit our "Lois Comes To Smallville" page.

Boy Wonder '04

07-04-2004, 04:06 PM

Hello everybody!
Oh, I heard that Bruce Wayne is to be in an episode of Smallville. I think he'll be in a business deal with Luthor but not sure. Can anyone tell me if this is true. Sure do hope it is... will be interesting to see how Loeb shows the charecters.

spiderman_2k

07-04-2004, 04:37 PM

That has been rumoured since Season 2 was being filmed, I think with the upcoming Batman Begins they wont put Wayne in the series for a while if at all.

Klimber

07-06-2004, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Soulless
Some spoilers for Season 4 from KryptonSite...

Added 6/30: The title of the episode is "Crusade."
- The episode begins "Three months later..." Someone finds something in a shield-shaped chamber in Egypt. Something is found - a statue of the Egyptian sun god Ra. Suddenly, a man steps out, wearing a white suit backlit by the sun.
- Clark and Lois try to get into a hospital, and Lois says "There's a guy here who needs assistance." She claims he has amnesia so she doesn't really know who he is. (Shouldn't the Smallville Medical folks recognize him by now?)
- Clark steps to a window and sees his reflection for what seems like his first time. As he looks, the blanket he's wearing falls, causing Lois to deadpan that he may need a gown first.
- Lex lies in a filtration chamber on a jet, we assume recovering from the poison. Outside the jet, the captain sees something. "What is it? A bird or a plane?" We don't know...
- Lex is traveling to Egypt; perhaps having something to do with the teaser scene. He instructs a man named Tariq to hide any evidence of him ever being there.
- The casting pages have certain bits blacked out, but we could swear we see the name "CHLOE" among the blacked-out lines... meaning it seems Chloe may be alive and well, despite the graveside service. If that is indeed Chloe, her scenes take place in the Smallville Torch.
- Clark and Lois first meet as Lois is visiting Chloe's grave, in a scene that may bring back memories of Clark and Lana's first real exchange of dialogue in the Smallville pilot episode.
- For some reason plastic flowers are placed instead of real ones.
- For more details on what the character of Lois may be like, visit our "Lois Comes To Smallville" page.

I can't wait. Looks like an interesting start to the new season.

Soulless

07-08-2004, 11:03 PM

More spoilers for Season 4...

Added 7/8: The role of Jason Teague has been cast, with Jensen Ackles (Dark Angel) playing the role. The Hollywood Reporter said when making the announcement that Jason is "the stubbornly independent heir to a rich Metropolis financial firm who becomes romantically involved with Lana Lang."
- Lana makes the comment to Jason, "I thought leaving Smallville would give me the answers I've been looking for. Now I think they were there all along."
- Jason makes some snark about leaving a message on his answering machine, or a note saying "We'll always have Paris." It sounds like Lana is going to be wishing Jason goodbye, which calls into question if the Powers That Be have decided to just eliminate the Jason character idea completely.
- "Haven't you ever felt like you were destined for something you had no control over?" Lana asks Jason. "That's the way I felt when I met you," he tells her.
- Lana shakes her head, and then steps to the mirror, pulls off her shirt, and stares at a tattoo on her naked back. (Not sure if Jason's still in the room for that or not. But this must be part of her "carefree new look!")
- There are eight men in red velvet coats, in a chamber illuminated by candles. Their leader, "The Seer," says "It has begun."
- The Lois and Clark graveyard scene has been moved to later in the story. Lois is visiting Chloe's grave, with the plastic flowers and all, and she tells Clark that she's glad he's passed the clothing-optional stage in their relationship. "I'm surprised you remember me at all," she tells him.

Soulless

07-14-2004, 11:41 PM

Finally they've announced the premiere of Season Four. I can hardly wait. KryptonSite (http://kryptonsite.com/) writes...

Smallville Season Four will be premiering a few weeks earlier than anticipated!

Look for "Crusade," the fourth season premiere, on Wednesday, September 22, 2004. A little more than two months away!

Baadshah

07-15-2004, 06:20 AM

that is such great news.

Alien

07-16-2004, 12:48 PM

That news could mean that the Uk'll get it before the New Year :D

Klimber

07-16-2004, 01:27 PM

Man you guys in the UK get the raw end of the deal.

Alien

07-16-2004, 01:44 PM

Yeah we really do. But then last year you got the Season and it was cut into 3 parts here we get it all in one, maybe the odd week with a special of another show.

Has Smallville season 3 even been on TV in the UK or only E4? People with so called Council TV really have it bad.

spiderman_2k

07-16-2004, 01:46 PM

It's only been on E4

Alien

07-18-2004, 06:36 PM

I'm so glad I have Sky... Poor people who only have Council TV haven't even see it. :(

Klimber

07-19-2004, 10:42 AM

I guess igorance is bliss...October is still too far away for me.

spiderman_2k

07-19-2004, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Alien
I'm so glad I have Sky... Poor people who only have Council TV haven't even see it. :(

Yeah my friend doesn't have Sky and he is a big Smallville fan...Poor guy.

Klimber

07-19-2004, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Yeah my friend doesn't have Sky and he is a big Smallville fan...Poor guy.

Spidey what did I tell you about selling bootleg copies of Smallville to your friends. :p

Alien

07-19-2004, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Yeah my friend doesn't have Sky and he is a big Smallville fan...Poor guy. So do you type it for him or are you evil and just tell him what happens and then laugh when he has months to wait to see it?

Alien

07-19-2004, 07:30 PM

The following appeared in the July 14th edition of USA Today...

After a ratings decline and fan complaints about Smallville last season, Superman will fly in the opener, violating a stated "no tights, no flights" rule established when the series started. The Lois Lane character also will join the cast, but she can't meet Lex Luthor, as Warner Bros. must avoid story conflicts with a future Superman movie in the works.

Meanwhile, Sci-Fi Wire spoke with executive producer Miles Millar about the up-coming 4th season of the "Smallville"...
"He doesn't fly as Clark. He flies as Kal-El. The first episode is all about visualizing the internal fight between Clark and Kal-El. Clark Kent represents his Earth-bound persona, the kid who was brought up by the Kents. And Kal-El represents the person that Jor-El wants him to be. This personifies that".

As in all the previous seasons (X-Ray for S1, Heat Vision for S2, Super Hearing for S3), Clark will discover a special power but it WON'T be flight as we see in the premiere. The best guess is freezing breath to which Millar replied "It might be, there aren't many powers left".

This season will also focus on Clark's senior year of high school and heads toward a big revelation at the end - "Clark Kent, at the end of this year, will really graduate. And we're introducing a whole new mythology as well that will involve Lana, Lex and Clark. And at the end of the season we pay off something that is huge in the Superman mythology. It all leads towards something. Diehard fans of the mythology will realize what it is pretty quickly, others won't".

Season 4 of "Smallville" premieres in the U.S. on Wednesday September 22nd.

Soulless

07-19-2004, 08:45 PM

Season 4 sounds like it's going to be great, but at the same time who do they think they're fooling by saying that just because Clark is Kal El when he flys makes it different? Last time I checked they're both one and the same.

spiderman_2k

07-19-2004, 08:48 PM

I read on Kryptonsite that He might have meant Kal, not Kal El, meaning Clark is under the influence of Red when he flys and that would explain why he doesn't fly anymore in the series
Or if they did mean Kal El, maybe after he went with Jor El he sort of becomes another person for a while until he returns to normal

Alien

07-19-2004, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
I read on Kryptonsite that He might have meant Kal, not Kal El, meaning Clark is under the influence of Red when he flys and that would explain why he doesn't fly anymore in the series
Or if they did mean Kal El, maybe after he went with Jor El he sort of becomes another person for a while until he returns to normal Like Tara (was that her name?) in the last ep of Season 3.

Soulless

07-19-2004, 08:59 PM

That would make more sence, if Clark were under the influence of Red Kryptonite. Although if that were the case even when he isn't under the influence of Red K you'd think he'd still use it to save people quicker. There were quite a few times in the last three seasons that flight would've come in handy. Then again it would expose his true self to the world, which is something he definately doesn't want, so nevermind.

Soulless

07-21-2004, 09:49 PM

Tonight they showed the first advertisement for Season 4 during the repeats. September 22nd seems so far away.

Baadshah

07-22-2004, 06:36 AM

http://www.kryptonsite.com/crusade3.bmp

Klimber

07-22-2004, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Soulless
Tonight they showed the first advertisement for Season 4 during the repeats. September 22nd seems so far away.

Is the ad anywhere online to download?

Baadshah

07-22-2004, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Klimber
Is the ad anywhere online to download?

yes
4th Season Premiere Teaser (http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/trailers/season4/s4teaser.wmv)

Klimber

07-23-2004, 09:36 AM

Is that Lana in the trailer? If so she looked like she had a rough night.

Soulless

07-23-2004, 05:52 PM

Yeah, that's Lana in the trailer.

UnicornBlood3

07-23-2004, 07:18 PM

She looks freaky..

Xander

07-24-2004, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Baadshah
yes
4th Season Premiere Teaser (http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/trailers/season4/s4teaser.wmv)

It doesn't work :( I want to see Lana do the scary face!!!

Baadshah

07-25-2004, 09:25 AM

it does work

G-Matrix

07-25-2004, 06:58 PM

wow I wanna see the episode!!!!:(

Klimber

07-26-2004, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by UnicornBlood3
She looks freaky..

She looks like she just got finished playing Naked Twister with the football team.

UnicornBlood3

07-26-2004, 10:58 AM

LOL. That's a way to put it.

Klimber

07-26-2004, 02:00 PM

Yeah she's looks like she been on the job. If you know what I mean.

UnicornBlood3

07-27-2004, 09:31 PM

I saw another preview today for it and she was like naked on a bed. I was like whoa what's going on.

It also showed Lex on the floor again.

beyond_th3

07-27-2004, 09:33 PM

I only saw one and it made no reference to clark or kal el flying - but you could tell by his facial expressions that he probably will start off as kal el.

LordofKings

07-27-2004, 09:56 PM

I saw a preview today, and it looks great

Klimber

07-28-2004, 10:24 AM

Ok let me get this straight:
Clark Kent: Good son and friend
Kal: Red Kryptonite created alter ego, party boy
Kal-El: War mongering heir of Krypton, Future overlord of Earth

Kal-El on red Kryptonite: Overlord of earth's party circuit??

Ouch!

Soulless

08-03-2004, 08:50 PM

Klimber

08-04-2004, 01:17 PM

New cast update: Sam Lane, Lois Lane's father...

Michael Ironside Cast In Recurring Smallville Role (http://www.kryptonsite.com/ironside.htm)
http://www.project-equinox.de/dvd/pictures/cast/michael_ironside.jpg

Intresting choice...casting an actor who is known as a great ballbuster on screen to play the father of our Lois...hints on a background to her tough nature.

UnicornBlood3

08-04-2004, 01:37 PM

I'm way behind in Smallville world so just bare with me when I ask if Lois Lane has been cast?

Alien

08-04-2004, 07:07 PM

He looks like Red/Read from That 70's Show. He not is he?

Soulless

08-04-2004, 09:03 PM

I'm way behind in Smallville world so just bare with me when I ask if Lois Lane has been cast?Yes, she has.

Erica Durance
http://www.nypost.com/photos/entlede07142004.jpg

jediknight

08-08-2004, 08:34 PM

And we're introducing a whole new mythology as well that will involve Lana, Lex and Clark. And at the end of the season we pay off something that is huge in the Superman mythology. It all leads towards something. Diehard fans of the mythology will realize what it is pretty quickly, others won't".

Season 4 of "Smallville" premieres in the U.S. on Wednesday September 22nd.

Hrm...I remember in the comics Clark "showed" Lana his powers. I don't remember, however, if he takes her flying. I can't wait!!!!

On a sidenote, I hope that Welling takes Singer's offer to be Superman, but he's expressed in the past that he doesn't want to be.

Soulless

08-08-2004, 09:14 PM

As cool as it would be to see Welling as Superman I'd rather wait until the show is over so that they could then adapt a film based on what happens after Smallville. It could always be seperate from WB's main Superman film.

Freelow

08-09-2004, 08:25 AM

Intresting choice...casting an actor who is known as a great ballbuster on screen to play the father of our Lois...hints on a background to her tough nature.

This is not a surprise casting choice to me. Isn't Lois' father in the military? This guy always plays a hard@ss, so he should be a good fit as a tough military father.

Klimber

08-09-2004, 08:51 AM

This is not a surprise casting choice to me. Isn't Lois' father in the military? This guy always plays a hard@ss, so he should be a good fit as a tough military father.

Oh ok, I am not the most knowing in Superman lore, I know Marvel and Mutants. Well then sounds like they made a good casting move cause Ironside is no softie.

Soulless

08-10-2004, 05:42 PM

Here's an interesting rumor for season four. I'm not putting spoiler tags because it is only a rumor. If it turns out to be true that would be cool I suppose.

KryptonSite Writes...
Another DC Super Hero Comes To Smallville?
Okay, first rule of K-Site Rumor Control, especially in this situation, is to know that it's merely that - rumor. We've heard nothing else to back this up aside from what this scooper said, but remember, though, that Rumorville has been right in the past (Erica Durance and Jensen Ackles, anyone?)

And here it is - we're hearing rumblings that The Flash might be appearing on Smallville at some point this season, and in the WB tradition, "younger, edgier, and more street smart." But hopefully still with Wally's sense of humor ;) The Flash appearance could be as early as the fifth episode of Season Four. But, again, this could all be bogus, in which case no one throw rocks at us, please!

Freelow

08-11-2004, 06:31 AM

Here's an interesting rumor for season four. I'm not putting spoiler tags because it is only a rumor. If it turns out to be true that would be cool I suppose.

If they were to make Wally anything like his character in the cartoon Justice League, I think he would be a fun character introduced into the Smallville world.

Freelow

08-11-2004, 06:37 AM

Oh ok, I am not the most knowing in Superman lore, I know Marvel and Mutants. Well then sounds like they made a good casting move cause Ironside is no softie.

Just read this off of KryptonSite.com

"Added 8/2: Michael Ironside has been cast as General Sam Lane."

That answers the question about whether he is military in Smallville also.

Soulless

08-11-2004, 10:22 AM

If they were to make Wally anything like his character in the cartoon Justice League, I think he would be a fun character introduced into the Smallville world.He would be a fun character, no doubt about that, but I'm wondering if he'll have his powers or not. And I don't really mind them getting DCU characters and putting them on the show, but how many DCU heros/villians are they going to incorporate into Clarks pre-Superman era?

UPDATE
It seems the rumors are true for episode five of season four. I'll post spoiler tags this time, but I'm only posting the announcement and not what happens in the actual show just to be courteous. You can access the spoiler page here (http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm).

From KryptonSite's spoiler page
Added 8/10: It seems our rumors posted on August 10 were right - The Flash is coming to Smallville!
- Which Flash? This red-sweatshirt wearing fellow is not Wally West, not Barry Allen, and not Jay Garrick - instead, it's Bart Allen, boy from the future and grandson of the most famous Flash (Barry Allen). However, in this version of the story he was involved in an accident at a very young age that resulted in his powers.
- Bart talks a lot, and very quickly.
- The names of other Flashes may be mentioned or seen in this story.

jediknight

08-11-2004, 11:08 AM

I'm not quite sure I believe these flash rumors, anyone remember the promise for Bruce Wayne? :)

At least we got Lois Lane :D

Klimber

08-11-2004, 01:39 PM

I wonder who will be faster in a Clark vs. Bart foot race?

Alien

08-11-2004, 05:49 PM

From KryptonSite's spoiler page
Added 8/10: It seems our rumors posted on August 10 were right - The Flash is coming to Smallville!
- Which Flash? This red-sweatshirt wearing fellow is not Wally West, not Barry Allen, and not Jay Garrick - instead, it's Bart Allen, boy from the future and grandson of the most famous Flash (Barry Allen). However, in this version of the story he was involved in an accident at a very young age that resulted in his powers.
- Bart talks a lot, and very quickly.
- The names of other Flashes may be mentioned or seen in this story.
Of course it's not Wally West. ( :( ) Lex is Wally West, or I mean they are played by the same person.

So really, is it the Flash or just some guy Clark meets who is really fast and is called Bart Allen as a sort of wink to the Flash?

beyond_th3

08-11-2004, 06:39 PM

I wonder who will be faster in a Clark vs. Bart foot race?

my money's on clark.

spiderman_2k

08-11-2004, 06:45 PM

I think Clark would win, he has been getting faster and faster over the seasons.

Alien

08-11-2004, 07:37 PM

I think Clark would win, he has been getting faster and faster over the seasons.
Just like your avatar then

spiderman_2k

08-11-2004, 07:38 PM

I still need more symbols though.

Alien

08-11-2004, 07:48 PM

You need to slow it down, give us a chance to see them.

spiderman_2k

08-11-2004, 07:54 PM

The point is it moves that fast so you only get glimpses of each one, If I slow it down I will lose the effect that I want.

Soulless

08-12-2004, 06:27 AM

I'm not quite sure I believe these flash rumors, anyone remember the promise for Bruce Wayne? :)

At least we got Lois Lane :DThese are not rumors anymore. It's been confirmed. KryptonSite even lists what happens in the episode on their spoiler page.

Alien

08-12-2004, 06:52 PM

Not getting Bruce Wayne is a bad thing, I so wish we got him.
Getting Lois is a bad thing, I don't like Lois meeting Clark before he joins the Planet.

Flash could go either way for now.

Klimber

08-13-2004, 01:09 PM

Soulless

08-13-2004, 07:00 PM

I think a great effect would be a foot race between Clark and Flash and showing them in a Bullet time style shot. Like running in the rain and bring to staying for the most part dry because they could avoid the drops. Somethjing of that sort.That would be cool. They'll probably do some sort of race, otherwise why have Flash on Smallville at all? That would be the payoff.

Alien

08-13-2004, 07:08 PM

They have had that super fast young-friend-of-Lana clone so there must be another reason for Flash.

Soulless

08-13-2004, 07:22 PM

Bart Allen's just there to cause trouble, probably. After all, that's what all super powered characters opposite Clark do on that show.

Alien

08-16-2004, 07:02 PM

I got the Smallville season two box set today :)

Baadshah

08-16-2004, 07:48 PM

why today and not 3 months ago???????
:)

Alien

08-16-2004, 08:05 PM

Coz I was waiting for it to be released and missed it. I only just found out it was out.

UnicornBlood3

08-16-2004, 08:19 PM

I don't have season two yet either. LOL. Still haven't had time to watch one...Man I'm slow.

Klimber

08-17-2004, 04:05 PM

Bart Allen's just there to cause trouble, probably. After all, that's what all super powered characters opposite Clark do on that show.

Those damn meddling kids are always causing trouble.

Alien

08-17-2004, 06:31 PM

spiderman_2k

08-17-2004, 07:00 PM

I assume he means during his infant years, which is why the Kents were selected by Jor El's experiences with them.

Alien

08-17-2004, 08:00 PM

But he knew the Kent's were nice people and would teach Kel-El to be nice. Plus he would know that the Kent's weren't about to pick up the message.

spiderman_2k

08-17-2004, 08:12 PM

Yeah he knew Jonathans father was a nice person he assumed Jonathan would be a nice person, I guess he also assumed someone like Swann would be able to decipher it.

Alien

08-17-2004, 08:19 PM

But it does make no sense, he's assuming that his son will be raised by a nice loving family yet he still expects his son to be come an evil over lord and to rule with an iron fist?

Klimber

08-18-2004, 12:50 PM

Didn't the messages occur at the same time? the first being who Kal-el is then the second about Kal-el's role as lord of the planet. maybe the cave generated the second message, hence was corrupt prior to the meteor shower. This does lend weight Alien's theory.
On the otherhand maybe Jor-el just did not want Kal-el to be raised by a white trash family. There is nothing more embarassing then a overlord with a mullet and a preference for wife-beater t-shirts and dipping Skoal.

"Hey Yall, bow down to me"

PootyNUK

08-22-2004, 02:07 PM

Ha ha ha... That's a funny image. Picture Superman with a mullet and like 4 teeth. I don't think I would want him saving me.

Alien

08-22-2004, 07:19 PM

Ha ha ha... That's a funny image. Picture Superman with a mullet and like 4 teeth. I don't think I would want him saving me.
You'd rather fall to your death?

Klimber

08-23-2004, 12:41 PM

Ha ha ha... That's a funny image. Picture Superman with a mullet and like 4 teeth. I don't think I would want him saving me.

Yeah as a teen he keeps wanting to get a AC/DC tattoo on his back but the needles keep breaking on his skin.

"Faster than speeding Trans-Am, More powerful than a truck at the tractor pull! Able to leap tall grain silos at a single bound!"

"Look up in the sky! "It's a buzzard! It's a crop duster!
It's Superman, Ya'll !"

Baadshah

08-25-2004, 06:20 PM

according to superman-v.com, Those bastards at the WB may cancell Smallville becausse the Superman film will come out soon in 2006

Soulless

08-25-2004, 06:53 PM

I doubt WB will have a Superman film by 2006, although I wouldn't be surprised if they did jump the gun and cancel Smallville. Look what happened to Angel. They canned Angel for Dark Shadows and now no Dark Shadows either so they're out one good show. Not that I was going to watch DS anyway because I was against the whole thing, just as I'm against WB doing anything that may jeapordize Smallville.

Alien

08-25-2004, 07:25 PM

The WB really are quite stupid aren't they. They cancel highly rated shows. Last I knew the new Superman movie was meant to be Superman 5 meaning they aren't starting from scratch (crap in its own right) and so has no thing to do with Smallvile. Christopher Reeve even said that Welling could almost be Jeff East's character in the first movie.

Baadshah

08-25-2004, 08:58 PM

actually, we still don't know if it's an orgin story or not.

Baadshah

08-27-2004, 08:00 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Webakin/smallville.jpg

Tony_samo

08-27-2004, 03:38 PM

do you guys have a link to the teaser? at kryptonsite.com they showed screen caps of it

spideyman

08-28-2004, 11:08 PM

ur sig is too long

Klimber

08-30-2004, 12:35 PM

The WB really are quite stupid aren't they. They cancel highly rated shows.

If they do cancel Smallville, I think that I could finally remove WB as a channel
on my dish controller. If not for Smallville I wold have done so after the finale of Angel. WBastards!

Soulless

08-30-2004, 01:18 PM

I don't think we have to worry about Smallville being cancelled because in the lasted interview with Jeph Loeb he says that Tom Welling is not playing Superman and that they are planning Smallville beyond season five. That can be found here (http://www.bluetights.net/interviews/interview_08_28_04_Loeb.php).

Baadshah

08-31-2004, 06:47 AM

Better (http://www.kryptonsite.com/s3dvdcover.htm)

Soulless

08-31-2004, 07:23 AM

I posted that in the Season Three DVD thread.

Baadshah

08-31-2004, 07:40 PM

I know, but, it's keeps going down the page, and not many people are responding to that thread.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/smallville_96/smallvilleseason3r1artpic2.jpg

Soulless

09-01-2004, 05:52 AM

That's because everyone is posting all the DVD information in this thread.

Baadshah

09-01-2004, 07:39 AM

you know why there isn't anybody there and why that thread keeps going down the page. Because that thread have to contend with the other "important" thread, who wants to talk about the "Smallville" DVD. Just talk about the dvd here in this thread with the true fans of the show

Soulless

09-01-2004, 12:30 PM

Of course I know why, I just stated why, did I not? I wasn't arguing with you, it doesn't matter which thread it's posted in as I'm sure that everyone that's a fan of the show has seen and heard everything already from other sites. I was merely stating that I had seen it already by saying that I posted in the other thread. The DVD box art looks good though I think it would be better if Lana and Clark were switched.

Klimber

09-01-2004, 12:41 PM

I am so ready to get this season started! I feel as if it has been half a year since the finale. Three more weeks!

beyond_th3

09-01-2004, 12:43 PM

Last night as I was watching friends, a commercial came on, it was for the new season of smallville. They showed the regular clips but there was one that made me jump up and scream whoa!!! At the end of the commercial it showed clark or kal el with martha and the picture froze then clark kneeled down and took off neo style. I don't know if anyone has seen it maybe I'm late but who knows.

Klimber

09-01-2004, 01:24 PM

Yes we have talked about this in the Smallville sister thread about Lois
http://img68.exs.cx/img68/2896/Clark_50_by_TripleJ.gif

Baadshah

09-01-2004, 01:37 PM

Alien

09-01-2004, 03:24 PM

I know, but, it's keeps going down the page, and not many people are responding to that thread.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/smallville_96/smallvilleseason3r1artpic2.jpg
It doesn't look like guy porn!

Baadshah

09-01-2004, 04:00 PM

is that new, "GUY porn"

Not, it's a menage a toi
:D

beyond_th3

09-01-2004, 05:23 PM

Hey Klimber, where did you get that footage? I have been looking all over for that clip, it is so awesome.

Baadshah

09-01-2004, 05:51 PM

ahem
i actually posted that earlier here
http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1479811

I got it from the Smallville forum in the SHH boards

Soulless

09-01-2004, 06:04 PM

Soul, i wasn't arguing :confused:I didn't think you were, I just wanted you to know that I wasn't taking offence or something dumb like that. But anyway...

I don't know if anyone caught this but they've cast Bart Allen/The Flash for Episode 5 of season 4. His name is Kyle Gallner.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/SoullessXIII/Miscellaneous%20Pictures/kyle2.jpg

Baadshah

09-01-2004, 06:13 PM

thank you for the spoiler :angry:

Soulless

09-02-2004, 06:21 AM

So let me get this straight. It's okay for people to post pics and whatnot of who is playing Lois Lane and Lana's new boyfriend, both of which are a bigger deal then this, yet this news is a spoiler? It's not a spoiler. I told nothing of what they've said occurs in the episode and that pic is from another show he did, not Smallville.

spiderman_2k

09-02-2004, 06:34 AM

He knows Bart Allen/The Flash is in Smallville soon anyway so I dont get what his problem is.

Baadshah

09-02-2004, 07:30 AM

So, you guys don't think that knowing that the Flash will be in an episode is a spoiler. I already knew that because some idiot made a thread about it and put the "Flash" on the thread title. That is how i knew. But that thread is long forgotton, now people and guests who never saw that that thread will know this spoiler, so thank you for spoiling for others Soulness

Klimber

09-02-2004, 01:30 PM

Yeah but what is the big deal. We all know that it is happening...by the way it is Episode 5

Soulless

09-03-2004, 06:17 AM

The news of The Flash has been on KryptonSite for nearly a month now, and if you check KryptonSite, which you obviously do Baadshah, then you would have known, whether or not someone made a thread on it, because it's not as if KryptonSite is hiding it from anyone. Just a few days ago they announced who's playing him.

Baadshah

09-03-2004, 06:30 AM

Klimber

09-07-2004, 12:21 PM

i'm not talking about me man. Like i said, i found out when someone made a thread "The Flash in Smallville" :mad:

But, in Kryptonsite, they never say the word "Flash", they always say to click for spoilers.

I too found out this way but it really must have chapped your a$$ more than mine. I did not really care that the spoiler was in the title I just wish a new thread was not wasted to do it. If it belongs in Smallville put in the thread. I think a guest episode does not warrent its own thread. Your Lios thread is the exception because of her relationship to Clark's future. Only two more weeks for the premiere anyway.

Soulless

09-07-2004, 07:31 PM

For anyone that thinks they can stomach spoilers there's an interesting one on the KryptonSite Spoiler Page (http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm) under episode seven regarding another DC Comics Superman character. I would post it here with spoiler tags but this way people aren't as tempted to view the news. ;)

Klimber

09-08-2004, 01:08 PM

Soulless

09-08-2004, 06:39 PM

Yeah, episode six is going to be sweet.

jediknight

09-09-2004, 09:36 AM

I just found out something that supports the theory that the Jor-El in the Caves isn’t the real Jor-El but something pretending to be him. When Clack fist meets Dr. Swan he gets a message saying "This is our son Kal-El of Krypton keep him safe and deliver him from evil" (not exact words) Why would Jor-El ask the earth to keep Clark safe and 'good' if he wanted him to rule the world?

What people missed in Season 2.

I have a theory, its farfetched...but aren't most theories?!? I don't know if its been brought up before, but what if the voice from the caves is Braniac. I've discussed this theory with several people and get a few agreements out of it, especially for those who who know about braniac. Besides, why would Jor-El want to deliver clark from evil just to put him back in? :lol:

Soulless

09-10-2004, 01:06 AM

The cave cannot be Brainiac. I don't even know why you'd cover his name up when it's only a theory you have. And yes, it's been discussed. The reason it cannot be Brainiac is quite simple. Vril Dox, or Brianiac as he's known, was a scientist from the planet Colu. When he tryed to overthrow the tyrants that ruled Colu and take it over himself the tyrants seemingly killed him but his mind survived. Eventually his mind did indeed come to earth, but it went into Milton Fine, a circus mentalist with latent mental powers called the Amazing Brainiac. Dox completely took over Miltons body and battled Superman on numerous occasions with the help of Lex Luther in some instances but was defeated each time. Eventually Dox transferred his mind out of Milton and into the Doomsday monster but was stopped again. After that he transferred his mind into Brainiac 2.5, a robotic body. Then Brainiac 13 came from the future and, well, needless to say the cave cannot be Brainiac.

If the cave were anyone or anything the most logical explanation would be to have the cave turn out to be The Eradicator, a kryptonian computer program. Later he turned into human form, but when he first appeared, and I use the word appeared loosely, he was a computer program.

And click here (http://www.kryptonsite.com/kidder.htm) for a very major spoiler for an upcoming guest star. I advise against clicking the link unless you really want to know because it goes to the announcement page for the guest star. Season Four is going to rock.

Baadshah

09-10-2004, 07:09 AM

Klimber

09-10-2004, 01:24 PM

And click here (http://www.kryptonsite.com/kidder.htm) for a very major spoiler for an upcoming guest star. I advise against clicking the link unless you really want to know because it goes to the announcement page for the guest star. Season Four is going to rock.
Must click link...No do not click...must click link...(clicks spoiler link)...Damn it! Dog on Soulless, you and your ever so tempting spoiler like...Darn you! Darn you to Heck!...Sorry about the foul language. Hee Hee.

jediknight

09-10-2004, 04:47 PM

Ahhh, soulless. I wasn't completely familiar with character from the comics, as my post reflected. The Braniac I was referring to was from the Cartoons on WB, and I assumed they used the same story from the comics. *Shrug* I recall Eradicator from the Post Death of Superman comics, never knew he was a computer program though, how enlightening.

I still can't believe that the Jor-El from the caves is the same Jor-El in the ship. What if the mythos was changed to the key in ship unlocked the "being" in the cave? That certainly wouldn't be a stretch by Superman standards. I do recall a comic in which Superman met his Dad through some kind of time portal/wormhole anomaly...Jor-el and Laura were both very loving towards him. Jor-El was a scientist after all, not a warmonger--so its hard for me to believe that Jor-El would set up a destiny for Clark as a dictator. Show wise, the only memory Clark has of his parents were of them putting him in the ship and neither seemed ecstatic for doing so. That is just my 2 cents though

Baadshah

09-10-2004, 06:42 PM

sssssshhhhiiiiiiittttttttt

I didn't know Micheal Rosenbaum is 32 years old

Alien

09-10-2004, 07:04 PM

sssssshhhhiiiiiiittttttttt

I didn't know Micheal Rosenbaum is 32 years old
He's also the flash. I burst out laughing when he said, "Hi, I'm Micheal Rosenbaum - Lex Luther" on the commentary simply because I'm used to hearing that voice want to fight Lex. I never put the voice to the face till I was looking at him on IMDb.

Soulless

09-10-2004, 07:14 PM

Soulness, uuuuummmm
jediknight used spoiler tags for the word Brainiac, what's the point of him doing it if you don't do it in your post as well?I'm not trying to cause trouble here but if you're too lazy to look at my user name to know how it's spelt then I suggest you stop quoting me. You've misspelled my name on numerous occasions. There's no excuse for laziness like that when the quote tag has my name written in it.

About the spoiler thing with jediknight's theory. It's not a rumor from anywhere offical, it's not a spoiler for anything that is happening so there is no need to place a spoiler tag around it. It is a theory, nothing more and reveals no revelations about the show. I respect jediknight's theory although I may not agree with it and I apoligze to him if my post towards him seemed rude, although I don't think it did.

All your bickering, Baadshah, about me spoiling everything or not using spoiler tags for certain things is becoming tiresome and repetitive. I'm all for using spoiler tags if there is a real spoiler to be posted and will take the necessary steps to make sure I don't ruin anything for anyone, but if you disagree with the way I'm presenting myself here then put me on ignore if it bothers you so much. I apoligize for not being able to accommodate you, but I am not doing anything wrong. Sorry if this came off as harsh because that was not my intention. I was hoping to be able to discuss the current subject, as well as others, with you without any petty bickering but I'm beginning to feel as if that's not what you want.

Baadshah

09-10-2004, 07:28 PM

Soulless

09-10-2004, 07:35 PM

dude calm down. All i said was if jediknight use spoiler tags for certain things, than you do the same for the same things that he put spoiler tags on. I mean, he did the same thing in his last post, did you see that :D? It's for courtesy for the guests that are viewing the forums. okay "SOULNESS"No offence, but you're not one to speak of courtesy. I understand perfectly what you are saying though, and there is no reason for me to calm down because I have been calm all night. You're reading the emotions you want, not the emotions that are not there.

Baadshah

09-10-2004, 08:28 PM

well, i'm reading ur tone in your post. so, again, calm down, and next time, dont forget to use spoiler tags
:D

Soulless

09-10-2004, 09:23 PM

If it's a real spoiler I will, but if it's not I won't. Hell, I might not anyway just to smite you. :twisted:

Baadshah

09-10-2004, 10:11 PM

Klimber

09-14-2004, 09:08 AM

i don't care either way, i mean, it's not for me, i already know the spoilers.

Like The Flash
Margot Kiddor
even whitney's return!!!!!!!

Use spoiler tags for guests. I'm just mess'n with you man, chill out.
Plus, even with "THEORIES", use spoiler tags, because what if it may come true

Yeah this one whitney's return!!!!!!! will be an intresting episode. It looks like that might finally be toneing down the FOTW plots in favor of more arc driven episodes.

Boods

09-20-2004, 11:16 PM

so 2 DAYS before the premiere of season 4 !! cant wait, its gonna awesome...

Baadshah

09-21-2004, 07:39 AM

yup, i'm so excited

Elessar

09-21-2004, 11:36 AM

I cant wait for Bruce Wayne to make an appearance on smallville, Jeph Loeb has hinted it many times.

UnicornBlood3

09-22-2004, 05:56 AM

Smallville premire today! :D :D

Soulless

09-22-2004, 11:30 AM

I'm buying a blank tape. Eight o'clock seems too far away.

Klimber

09-22-2004, 11:46 AM

Hmmmm. What to do...I have the season premiere of Smallville, the series premiere of Lost and the new episode of Hawaii coming on at the same time. What to watch, what to tape, what to do?

UnicornBlood3

09-22-2004, 07:58 PM

:omg: Chloe's still alive!

I love Lois! :D

LordofKings

09-22-2004, 08:42 PM

Good episode. Lois was brilliant. Great acting by that young lady.

Lana was pure BEAUTY! HOTTER THEN EVER! How old is K. Klark (sp)?

Don't like how Lana got that weird thing transferred into her. Hate when that type of stuff happens on that show.

And I really, REALLY hope they give an explanation to the cave, like it is really a special device built by Clark's World, and the cave look is only a disguise, like an illusion. I hate the idea of this portal stuff unless the Cave itself was built on Krypton and placed on earth.

And I hate the "surprise" ending (what Uni had in spoiler tags)

Kyle Katarn

09-22-2004, 09:16 PM

THIS is why I now hate Bryan Singer. The Superman movie needs to WAIT until Smallville is finished a few years down the road.

Tom Welling IS F'n Superman!!!! :cool: :eek: :applaud:

The only thing better than the finales on this show are the season openers!

Regarding Lionel....WHO is setting him up since Chloe's death was faked? The feds? Or someone more sinister...?

I loooove the new opening credits too! And agreed, Lana is hotter than ever. And I'm sure the ladies loved those gratuitous shots of Tom as well....! Ah, equal opportunity TV...! :D

For killing Angel, the Frog must still die......but not until the end of Smallville! :twisted:

Soulless

09-22-2004, 09:19 PM

That premiere was great. Erica Durance did a fantastic job as Lois, Margot Kidder's cameo was really cool and I hope to see her character again in the near future. Clark as Kal-El flying was really cool although I don't know why they felt the need to create the vortex around him before and during takeoff, and that scene, and everyone knows which one, with Lana was very strange. I'm looking forward to the explanation of that. As usual Michael Rosenbaum did very well as Lex. Overall there's far too many aspects that I thought were great, such as all the shoot comments for example, to type out so to end this faster I'll just let it at that.

Baadshah

09-22-2004, 10:26 PM

awesome show

bbf2

09-23-2004, 01:59 AM

What the hell was that Black Kryptonite stuff? Was that from the comics, or was it just some deus ex machina?

cg124

09-23-2004, 05:22 AM

Man that was an awsome episode. I love it when it has though jaw droping endings.

jediknight

09-23-2004, 10:19 AM

Don't get me wrong, I loved the episode to death...but it seemed somewhat lacking. A few mistakes in the continuty of the story and the unbelivable scene with Lana in the church had me detached from the story. There is way too much transferrence from the cave walls and other "relics" around the world. Also, the symbol that Margot Kidder was referring to, was that the symbol that clark burned into the barn in Season 2? If so, we were told in that episode that the symbol meant hope, not conquest as Margot's character told Martha.

A Lot of things I liked though! The Clark flying scene had me saying F*@# Yeah!!! Although, I didn't see the need to Neo-fy the scene with the ripples around him. The red blanket *cough*cape*cough* I thought was awesome. I loved how Lex survived the Lionel's poisoning with his hyper-active white blood cells. I love the chemistry between Lois and Clark and I really love the theory she flew in Lionel's face. Chloe's alive! Could it be that she is waiting in the sidelines to testify against Lionel by suprise? I'm really looking forward to what this season has to dish out, especially since I've heard on a preview on the WB that Clarks and Lex's relationship is no longer going to be used as a secondary plot device. They are going to start to show their "falling out".

Klimber

09-23-2004, 12:16 PM

Liked the episode, I did think the field scene where the lighting strikes in front of Lois was a little cheesy. Did any one notice that the burn site looked sort of like the symbol on supermans costume and in the residual (sp?) electricty a big electric letter "S" was formed for a second . But overall this episode had a ton of plot lines going on, almost too many.

When do you guys on the other side of the pond get the premiere? Or are you on the same as the US broadcasting this season?

Vsnryguy

09-23-2004, 03:25 PM

Maybe you guys have mentioned this before or not but since we all believe that the parents sent clark to earth and would become superman and that they have no intentions for clark to become this conqueror. Ever since it started to show that Jor-el wants clark to become the powerful conqueror, i still believe its Braniac-13, if i remeber correctly Braniac-13 was Krypton and had all the information of the planet and wanted to overrule...just an idea.

LordofKings

09-23-2004, 03:59 PM

Some thigns I don't like:

1) If the cave can travsport people here and there (like the girl in the end of season 3), why was Clark sent by ship?

2) I hate how Powers can be given to someone by an object/non-existing person (Jor-el to Clark's Dad in season 3 opener)

3) I HATE how Jor-el is like a living person and how he can interact with whoever he wants. IN the movies he was just a memory perserved in like a future computer type system (way more believable)

4) How did Lex's plane land? with a huge hole in it, it prob would have crashed, and I also hate the idea of all these relics and such.

5) Why was Kal-el fighting with Clark? Kal-el was never a bad person in the movies. Why are they making it seem liek Krypton is this menacing place? I didn't like this one bit.

Overall, I loved the First Show. The MUSIC was excellent for the scenes. The acting was far improved. Lana ---- no more needed said there. The shots and direction were excellent as well. Lois was great. Great season ahead

hei1spawn1

09-23-2004, 05:23 PM

What the hell was that Black Kryptonite stuff? Was that from the comics, or was it just some deus ex machina?

I only know of gold, red and green in the comics but im not a big Supes fan. Also the red in the comics doesnt do ehat it does in the show. It hurts supes really badly as opposed to giving him "an attitude"

UnicornBlood3

09-23-2004, 07:26 PM

Some thigns I don't like:

1) If the cave can travsport people here and there (like the girl in the end of season 3), why was Clark sent by ship?

She wasn't sent from anywhere. She was in Smallville when the meteor shower hit and I don't know exactly what Clark's birth father did to her but he liked kept her the same for however many years and then let her go thinking she had some destiny.

At least I'm pretty sure that's what happened. It's been a while since I've seen the finale.

Anyway

Anyone think that maybe Lex set up the explosion?

Kyle Katarn

09-23-2004, 07:33 PM

Deneise asked me about black Kryptonite, but I wasn't sure. I know there like a TON of colors - 'Pre-Crisis.' In other words, way back before the 'Crisis on Infinite Earths' storyline that 'cleaned up' DC comics continuity. An issue of Wizard had all the colors and uses once.

Post 'Crisis,' I know there's green, and maybe red.

Where's Lackey?! ;)

hei1spawn1

09-23-2004, 08:38 PM

Post 'Crisis,' I know there's green, and maybe red.

Red was used in the Tower of Babel JLA arc 3 or 4 years ago...its a good read...but I really wasnt found of Crisis. It made some really good stories not exist(most people are not supposed to understand that comment)

Morg

09-23-2004, 10:23 PM

What the hell was that Black Kryptonite stuff? Was that from the comics, or was it just some deus ex machina?

it was never in the comics, the producers made it up. Seems Dr Swann knows more then he is telling. the black kryptonite, the key that telepprt to him.

mr_movies2000

09-23-2004, 11:33 PM

Great episode and I believe it is going to be a "Super" season! :D

bbf2

09-24-2004, 12:55 AM

LS2002

09-24-2004, 02:19 AM

5) Why was Kal-el fighting with Clark? Kal-el was never a bad person in the movies. Why are they making it seem liek Krypton is this menacing place? I didn't like this one bit.

Overall, I loved the First Show. The MUSIC was excellent for the scenes. The acting was far improved. Lana ---- no more needed said there. The shots and direction were excellent as well. Lois was great. Great season ahead

Hmmm Did it ever occur to you

That it might not even be Kal-El at all? Some people that I talked to thinks its somebody disgusied as Kal-El using his voice. I mean Clark really didn't know what Kal-El sounded like in the begining. so you know who knows we will just have to wait and see.

UnicornBlood3

09-24-2004, 06:01 AM

Klimber

09-24-2004, 11:20 AM

They better explain that black kryptonite stuff fast, because I really think it's dubious that there is an easily available type of kryptonite specifically made for this particular obscure situation. (Causing someone to split in two just in case they happened to be infused with an alternate personality. Hm.)

A completely unrelated question....why do we keep spoiler tagging stuff from that episode? The episode has already aired!

Swann is a loon it is possible that he has a vault with every type of kryptonite ever located. He has the resources to check that stuff out and investigate how they differ.

Also to agree with Unicorn. Yes we use spoiler tag for those who have not seen the episode. I am not sure when the new season cranks up in the UK but last season folks like Spidey and Alien were as much as 6 weeks behind the US season. Some other Smallville sites even have seperate US and UK boards because of the gaps.

jediknight

09-24-2004, 02:50 PM

Did anyone else notice that a kryptonian symbol on the rock lit up when it was activated? Perhaps its not a metorite but an Kryptonian Artifact instead?!?

Klimber

09-24-2004, 04:33 PM

Yeah that certainly threw a wrench in the idea that the cave was only used by the young Jor-el. The statue that housed the crystal looked egyptian, this could mean the Kryptonians have been using the Earth as a testing grounds for their youths for hundreds or thousands of years.

ILOVEKATIE

09-24-2004, 08:11 PM

I really like the episode, Welling does an awesome job as Clark/Superman, he keeps impressing me. The flying scene gave me goosebumps, so cool!
The girl that plays Lois was great, she was engaging and funny.
Martha's struggle with Clark was great, you can really see how much she loves her son.
Overall, a great season premiere. Can't wait to see more.

Boods

09-24-2004, 09:25 PM

Kyle Katarn

09-24-2004, 09:29 PM

Hmmm Did it ever occur to you

That it might not even be Kal-El at all? Some people that I talked to thinks its somebody disgusied as Kal-El using his voice. I mean Clark really didn't know what Kal-El sounded like in the begining. so you know who knows we will just have to wait and see.

Uh...you mean JOR-el right? If so I agree. Jor-el's always been a a-hole on the show...maybe it's really someone/thing like the Eradicator...or Brainiac?

Prysm

09-25-2004, 03:54 PM

I loved this episode, one of the best ever in my opinion. Clark was cool as Kal-El then Clark. Lois was awesome, love that girl who plays her. The Kents were ok as well, although it was a bit easy the way martha got rid of Kal-El. How convenient that Black Kryptonite exists!! Lana's story is yet unclear to everyone but she was really hot. Her boyfriend is ok i guess. I cant wait to watch more or Lois and Clark looking for Chloe. Lex was ok as well and Lionel was crazy as ever.
it's funny how we got
Lois Lane
Lana Lang
Lex Luthor
Lionel Luthor

4 people with LL initials

I wasn't happy at all to see Lois in Smallville. But the Actress did a great job pulling her off.
Lana is just a side story, which is really not that interesting at all. She is pretty much a non-entity now, just another side story. And while I am curious to see what they do with her. I don't really care if I miss that part of the show.
So far this season has brought up some new storylines already and I am curious to see what happens. I just hope that they don't water it down any more than it already is.

I think the "LL" thing was intentional..;)

Alien

09-25-2004, 07:18 PM

Also to agree with Unicorn. Yes we use spoiler tag for those who have not seen the episode. I am not sure when the new season cranks up in the UK but last season folks like Spidey and Alien were as much as 6 weeks behind the US season. Some other Smallville sites even have seperate US and UK boards because of the gaps.
It's true that we are behind but personally I read all the spoilers anyway. I'm not going to get to see season 4 for years till it is on Channel 4 coz I'm at uni and don't have Sky/Cable. I might download ever episode of this season at a later date but that depends.

LS2002

09-26-2004, 11:17 AM

Uh...you mean JOR-el right? If so I agree. Jor-el's always been a a-hole on the show...maybe it's really someone/thing like the Eradicator...or Brainiac?

Yeah I meant Jor-El my bad!

LS2002

09-29-2004, 12:30 AM

Well we are only about day away from Episode 2 lets get pumped up!

pb32

09-29-2004, 03:01 PM

i missed the season premiere and the last episode of last season, so i have no idea what's going on. sounds like it was awesome thought. can anyone give me a brief synopsis of last seasons ending and this seasons beginning?

Dogbert0228

09-29-2004, 04:16 PM

So... anyone who's been following the story for a long time now... Remember when the key to the wall disappeared, and reappeared somehow with Dr. Swann? Will they ever explain that? And now the Lex and Clark aren't friends anymore, it's time to see how much Lex really knows about Clark, and what he remembers (if anything) about his time when his memory was supposedly erased... And what's Lionel's fate? He has to die one way or another, and I can't wait to see him go out with some sort of bang...

beyond_th3

09-29-2004, 07:45 PM

I can't believe thatChloe Lives!!!!!!!!!

LS2002

09-29-2004, 07:55 PM

Well I want to know

If Lionel is really getting set up. I mean if he did not rig that explosion than Who Did? Lex? Somebody else? Where is Chole if she is not dead?

UnicornBlood3

09-29-2004, 08:00 PM

I told ya'll it was Lex!

Mwaha.

LordofKings

09-29-2004, 08:12 PM

Such a great show Smallville is, but I hate all these little things that happen so often (ie: someone get knocked out just before clark shows his powers and clark always running off and someone has to be VERY SUSPICIOUS of how he gets places so fast and how it seems like High school and normal teenage life does not play a factor in anyone's lives, oh and clark and lana or clark and someone else always showing up in the cave together....STOP THAT!!!!)

But another great show and the season is looking great. Don't know about next week episodes. Like the x-files, I don't like when they go away from the main focus of the show, but as long as I see more of Lana and Lois, im happy.

Anyone else very tired of my complaints that I named above? Anyway how did Lois get to the warehouse in this past episode?

Anyone else not like how they handled the situation with Chloe? I certainly don't. I don't like how it all developed or the Terminator wannabe hunting them down and him not having an explanation

Its amazing. I have so many complaints about this show yet I would let nothing stop me from catching every single episode. Prob my favorite show on TV.

Also: The music is very very good in this season, esp when Clark and Lana were in the cave. The music fit Great for thier story

Kyle Katarn

09-29-2004, 08:13 PM

KICK @$$!!!! Great ep! Well, the Lana subplot is kind of irritating though. Minor gripe.

So, from toward the end it's safe to assume that Lex is behind Lionel's stabbing at the prison? And that he ORDERED him to leave him alive just so he could see Lionel go behind bars.

Kinda irritating how Clark always defended Lex to his parents - especially Jonothan - but NOW the situation is reversed...!

And next week's episode...'kryp/tuck' - LMAO! I dunno about that one....ESPECIALLY the lesbian kiss...!

Baadshah

09-29-2004, 10:14 PM

that is just stupid. The show is getting silly with these sexual story lines

Soulless

09-29-2004, 10:20 PM

I thought it was a great episode tonight. One thing that's a little agrivating for me though is when Clark always says how he can't trust Lex anymore because Lex has been lying to him since day one, yet hasn't Clark been doing the same thing to Lex? Kind of hypicritical if you ask me.

Anyway, I thought tonights villain was pretty cool, despite seeing him in a 90's movie already. I was surprised they brought Chloe back so soon. I knew she wasn't dead but I thought they would've dragged it out a little longer like they did with Mulder on the X-Files. While the explanation of how Chloe lived was inventive I don't think it did the season finale any justice. In the season finale we saw the flames engulf her body yet in tonights episode they claim she got out right before the house exploded. A little too convenient for me.

Lex and Lionel's relationship is pretty interesting this season, what with Lionel behind bars and Lex finally in control of LutherCorp. It will be interesting to see what Lex does with LutherCorp and whether or not he changes the name to LexCorp as it is in the comics. I know he had a company in earlier seasons called LexCorp, but now's a good opportunity for Lex to take everything else away from his father and just not his freedom.

Lois is developing nicely and I think she's a nice addition to the show. Her and Clark's relationship is perfect and makes one wonder how these two will ever hook up. Lois' father is pretty cool, too, being the tough military dad, just as the cliche in television and movies is.

Next weeks episode looks to be another good one. I'm sure everyone here will tune in, if not for the show then to see Kristen Kreuk make out with another woman.

Baadshah

09-29-2004, 10:21 PM

http://www.devotedtosmallville.com/files/smallville/caps/facade-trailer-a-28.jpg

jediknight

09-30-2004, 10:31 AM

I liked last nights episode; however, I'm very wary of where the WB is taking this show. "KRYP/TUCK" PLEASE, THAT'S CHESSE!!!! They seem to title every other charmed some dumb name like "The Bare Witch Project." I like Smallville a lot but if the WB continues down a path of crappy plot lines, I'll have to give smallville the same passive attention I give every show hehe. That's just my 2 cents, though.

Boods

09-30-2004, 11:25 AM

I liked yesterday's episode. I also thought that they would drag the chloe thing a little longer, it's weird how they found her so quickly.
I also think it's weird that terminator didnt kill her right when he caught her instead of taking her to that plant thing.
The terminator guy was kinda stupid i think.
I liked the whole helicopter scene at the beginning, that was really cool. Lois can actually take good care of herself and that was fun to watch, she's my favorite character, she's really developping well. and her relationship with clark is really cool.
The lana storyline is lingering, i dont know what its purpose is. apparently it wont be solved for another like 6 episodes or so. jason showing up is cool but not worthy of a maroon 5 song !! i cant believe they played she will be loved by maroon 5 for this crap scene. this scene is also not worthy of ending any episode ever. they needed another scene after that, cliffhanger style !!!
anyways cant wait for next week !!

Freelow

10-01-2004, 07:15 AM

Has there been any effort or attempt to explain the bad guy from this week's episode?

The show would have been a lot better if they had explained where and how the bad guy came from. Just popping him up in the show really didn't cut it for me - no pun intended.

Anyone have any wild guesses as to how this guy came about?

Thanks. Go Red Sox.

Klimber

10-01-2004, 11:58 AM

They sort of explained it. The guy was a FOTW that was already a Bel Rieve (the hospital that all of the weirdos and FOTW's get sent after they are brought to justice by Clark) This guy Lionel found there and busted out to work as a hitman. Again why he did not twist Chloe's cap back via pointy blade from the get go I did not quite understand. Also where did Lois get the Plasma rifle in 40 watt range (quick shout out to the Terminator), it is not like she can not get off base with that thing. Please. Shame that they toasted the T-2000 FOTW so quickly, I wanted to see more. That end scene was like watching the Terminator as a lowbudget indie film remake. Come on, think up your own plot twists Gough! Stop ripping off Cameron.

Soulless

10-01-2004, 09:01 PM

Most likely the Terminator-esque villain in the last episode came about because of the meteor shower. Isn't that how they all happen? ;)

Baadshah

10-02-2004, 02:38 PM

don't miss the behind the scenes special at 8pm on ABC Family

Soulless

10-03-2004, 11:08 PM

I didn't miss it. I recorded and watched it. The special was pretty good, lots of funny moments.

Alien

10-04-2004, 04:53 AM

I've started to download the first show of the season but I don't remember how Jonathan was put in a coma and didn't something like a bug fire symbol appear in the Kent farm? Has that been forgotten about?

Baadshah

10-04-2004, 08:18 AM

no

1) Jor-El did something to Jonathan in the cave and threatened Clark if he doesn't enter, than Jor-El will kill Jonathan. Clark goes in, and Jonathan faints, but in the first episode, we see he is in a coma. So, we just assume he went into a coma in the cave or something

2) The fire symbol means something according to the former Lois Lane that will appear in this show. She says to Martha Kent that the symbol means "Crusade", the show's title.

Soulless

10-04-2004, 08:13 PM

Here's an interesting rumor from KryptonSite about the possibility of a returning villain. It's not that big a deal though really and it's not ground breaking or surprising.
We've been hearing some rumblings, but have no official confirmation, that Alicia Baker, the popular teleporting character introduced in last season's "Obsession," will be returning to the show at some time in the show's fourth season - perhaps in an episode that's already filmed, or perhaps in one that we don't know about yet.

The character was played by the talented Sarah Carter, who is expected to return to the role. But again, no official confirmation on this at this point, which is why it's on the Rumorville page. (And of course, e-mail us if anyone can confirm it!)

If this is true, we can only imagine the story possibilities, now that Lois has entered the picture. So who will it be, C.K. - Lois, Lana, Chloe, Alicia, or Lex? Guess we may find out this season...

Alien

10-06-2004, 05:42 AM

UnicornBlood3

10-06-2004, 07:59 PM

Ooh! Did ya'll see that look of death Chloe had in the end. I smell drama...

Cool episode though. Kind of average.

Baadshah

10-06-2004, 08:03 PM

oh yeah, teeennnsssiiioooonnn
i feel sorry for Chloe
First Chloe is teaching Lois about Journalism, which Chloe will be skrewed in the future because of it, and now, the Lois/Clark thing

You know she will commit suicide one day

Freelow

10-07-2004, 06:21 AM

Kyle Katarn

10-07-2004, 09:48 AM

Glad I caught this ep for the 3 important parts:

Lois ain't going anywhere...not enough credits to get into MetU, so daddy is making her repeat senior year at Smallville!! :hehe:

And Clark on the football team at last.....!

And the aforementioned possiblle triangle with Clark, Lois, and Chloe...

But next weeks ep - a sinister villian puts Spanish Fly in the Gatorade cooler...?! Might be 'stimulating,' but.....wtf? :lol:

mr_movies2000

10-07-2004, 09:59 AM

Closing shot - pan over to Chloe in a slower frame rate. See the look of disappointment come across her face.

You have got to feel bad for Chloe, but it will throw an interesting glitch into the show. Should be fun to see where the writers go from here.

Yea I felt really bad for Chloe....now it's not just Lana she is competing with for Clark's attention....it's also her own cousin! :omg:

Yuney

10-07-2004, 10:47 AM

I thought the episode was ok, better than I thought it was going to be from the previews. My only gripe is that I'm really not too sure about all these themed episodes. It seems a little tacky and they don't need to do that to attract viewers. It kind of makes me not even want to watch the season... I will, but if it starts getting too cheesy, I probably will stop. I wish they would focus more on the characters than some kryptonite substance or villian.

Klimber

10-07-2004, 12:27 PM

Yea I felt really bad for Chloe....now it's not just Lana she is competing with for Clark's attention....it's also her own cousin! :omg:

Here's hoping Chloe finds Clark in a Lois and Lana sandwich. That would be hot. That is what Smallville is missing... hot brunette 3 ways. :cool:

Soulless

10-07-2004, 05:58 PM

I don't see them going anywhere with the Lois/Clark thing. I think that ending last night was just to signify that there is a future between the two, nothing more. Chloe gets jealous over anything and everything Clark related it seems. Last nights episode was alright, though I do think the themed episodes are a waste and not needed. The show is better then that.

Klimber

10-08-2004, 11:52 AM

I think the rumors of the return of Whitney was over hyped. Jeez he was in frame for what 30 seconds? Not what I had expected, I thought it was going to be a flashback episode.

Iben

10-09-2004, 12:52 PM

out of curiousity, what episode number are you guys at?

hei1spawn1

10-09-2004, 01:10 PM

season 4 ep3

dspade64

10-09-2004, 06:46 PM

Whitney wasn't one of my favorite characters. I was glad the return was short-lived.

Kyle Katarn

10-09-2004, 11:05 PM

I've heard that because of legal issues with the Superman movie, it's forbidden for Lois & Clark to kiss on Smallville.....wtf???

Also, what did I miss about Whitney returning? Wasn't he...y'know, dead? As dead as one CAN be in the Superman universe that is! ;)

hei1spawn1

10-09-2004, 11:08 PM

its a flashback

Kyle Katarn

10-09-2004, 11:23 PM

Ah.... did I miss it or is it coming up? :o

Rogue Program

10-09-2004, 11:29 PM

Is it possible for a car to upstage the actors? (see image attached)

But anyway, I'm liking the episodes so far this season and the initially grating Lois has gotten a little less annoying (though her martial arts skills are still over-the-top). I thought I would hate Jason, being Lana's boyfriend and all because I believe her and Clark are meant to be together and blah blah blah, but I find that he's a really cool guy and I hope that him and Clark can develop a friendship since it seems now that Lex and Clark are at odds.