To all the people who say:

[onelegasy]

To all the people who watch a horror movie, come here and write a review saying "I wasn't scared" Please STFU.

:angry:

Here is what you should try to do:

1. Realize that we are born and trained to be not scared of anything, especially young kids these days. Gone are the boogeyman and ghost stories of old, designed to scare you into walking the right path in life, and going to bed on time.

2. Realize that directors try to ENTERTAIN you and spend millions of dollars to TRY and do that to as many people as possible.

3. Drop the image of being "cool" by appearing emotional vacant during a horror movie.

4. Use a thing called imagination and try and picture the "what if's" that the film is trying to show you.

5. Stop watching horror movies if you feel that nothing scares you at all, and all horror movies these days suck.

FINALLY

6. Don't write a review about a horror movie if you simply are not impressed with horror movies in general, we get the point already ok?

[Frizzo the Clown]

If someone watches a horror movie, and they werent' scared or impressed, I think they have every right to express that opinion. Just because directors spend millions of dollars on a movie to scare us, that doesn't automatically make a scary or good movie. You're just gonna have to deal with that.

[Necross]

onelegasy, I'm more scared by your avatar, that poor woman! Is she ok!?

[Xander]

http://www.ps2-scene.org/forums/images/smilies/nana.gif

[FilmJerk]

your avy looks so familiar :nono:

[panzertank]

So you are saying that if a director makes a movie for millions of dollars, and says that it is scary, it must be scary. Huhh?? I don't see the logic in that. Not every scary movie is actually scary, some suck. Not everyone will think they are bad, but it is an opinion a person can have. I didn't thing Jeepers Creepers was that scary. I went into thinking it would, it was even outside at night time with the wind blowing. But through it my friends and I started to make fun of it instead. Even the big wussies of the group were not scared. Now, im not saying everyone thought it sucked, some might really have liked it. But thats my opinion. If I want to report said opinion that is my own business. I have that right, just like you have the right to ignore my review.
I can see where you are going with this, that people are saying it was bad just to look cool, but who really cares? You are getting yourself worked up for nothing. Chill, take a tall glass of lemonade, duck from filmjerks swing over the avy (lol,jk), and watch the trailer for red-eye, which looks to be a good scary movie.

[onelegasy]

your avy looks so familiar :nono:

Ya, next time don't copy my Av. You know how difficult and time consuming it was to grab this AV off of somebody else?

:angry:

Yes, people are entitled to say that they weren't scared, but my god, do we have to hear it all the time?

I swear that Satan himself could come through the screen and rip the heart out of a teenager and the kid would boo Satan and criticize the way his heart was ripped out and complain that he wasn't scared.

[Xander]

We get it, but...what's your point? Should we kill all who are scare-less?

[spiderman_2k]

your avy looks so familiar :nono:

And yours looks very familiar too...:nono:

[onelegasy]

We get it, but...what's your point? Should we kill all who are scare-less?

Interesting question.

Yes.

If a person walks into a horror movie and leaves not scared, they should be killed immediately.

Ya, That's what I was trying to say.

.....

[panzertank]

Huzzah we are now killing people who share opinions Huzzah!!
God I hope this is all a joke or you really need to rethink your priorities.
But what do I know I was already killed over my thoughts on Jeepers Creepers, ...Huzzah?:rolleyes:

[onelegasy]

You are missing a point.

I was talking about the people *****ing that they weren't scared. Most don't get scared over anything but feel the need to announce that they were not scared after watching a horror movie. Kinda like they are expecting to be rewarded with a box of girl guide (tm) cookies and a kiss from a playboy model.

Pick apart a movie for real reasons: lousy acting, bad script, horrible editing...stuff like that.

Just because you weren't scared, does that mean that you are a hero or something.

Are you expecting your mom to come running and give you a hug and tell you that you were very brave for watching that movie and not getting scared?

As I mentioned, it's almost impossible to scare people these days. Face it, we have seen a lot, get the behind the scenes/making of stuff, and are firmly rooted into reality.

When I was young, people left the theatre while watching The Thing, and I ***** you not, people left the movie theatre during Aliens and puked. I was too young to go to see it, but was amazed that people actually were sick and scared from that movie.

Who is going to be scared watching those movies now? Very very few because we have gotten used to it.

We drink juice and pop because water is boring, but in some countries around the world, just plain water is a blessing.

I don't need to rethink my priorities, panzertank. I was just going with Xander2's sarcasm

[Frizzo the Clown]

So, basically, if people aren't scared of horror movies, and don't share the same opinion about them as you, they should just shut up?

[onelegasy]

No

You don't read the message too well.

You're a mod, so I will be careful here.

If horror movies aren't scary for you, and you feel you NEED to be scared in order to be entertained, then don't go to see horror movies.

That appears to be simple to me.

If you are the type like me that does not get scared at all, don't announce that the movie sucked because it wasn't scary.

There are some excellent reviewers here on comingsoon.net who can give you legit and well thought out reasons and examples as to why they didn't like a particular horror movie besides the "I wasn't scared so pass me my cookies and milk, Mom" comments.

If you don't get scared, you don't get scared, fine.

I don't have a preference to people sharing or not sharing my ideas.

If they do, fine, we can talk about what we liked.

If they don't, fine, we can talk about what we disagreed on.

Either way is fine to me. As you can see with my posts with Enders and ZombieMan, I like to argue points. I don't expect people to side with me for no reason. I would hate life if everyone was like me. However: "This movie sucked because I wasn't scared" annoys the hell out of me.

I hope that clears it up a bit more Frizzo.

[Frizzo the Clown]

No

You don't read the message too well.

You're a mod, so I will be careful here.

If horror movies aren't scary for you, and you feel you NEED to be scared in order to be entertained, then don't go to see horror movies.

That appears to be simple to me.

If you are the type like me that does not get scared at all, don't announce that the movie sucked because it wasn't scary.

There are some excellent reviewers here on comingsoon.net who can give you legit and well thought out reasons and examples as to why they didn't like a particular horror movie besides the "I wasn't scared so pass me my cookies and milk, Mom" comments.

If you don't get scared, you don't get scared, fine.

I don't have a preference to people sharing or not sharing my ideas.

If they do, fine, we can talk about what we liked.

If they don't, fine, we can talk about what we disagreed on.

Either way is fine to me. As you can see with my posts with Enders and ZombieMan, I like to argue points. I don't expect people to side with me for no reason. I would hate life if everyone was like me. However: "This movie sucked because I wasn't scared" annoys the hell out of me.

I hope that clears it up a bit more Frizzo.
Don't worry...I won't ban you for a difference of opinion, as long as things stay civil. I thought this could possibly spark some sort of discussion, which is why I left it open. ;)

[onelegasy]

Don't worry...I won't ban you for a difference of opinion, as long as things stay civil. I thought this could possibly spark some sort of discussion, which is why I left it open. ;)

Well, I have a tendancy to resort to sarcasm...and that was the reason for my disclaimer, and "civil" is my middle name..

[Fanible]

I watch a horror movie for the gore and "horror" aspect. Any scares it may contain are a bonus. Although a suspense/horror movie should be scary. If it's not, that the director and/or writers did something wrong. To express whether or not someone was scared is perfectly normal. If no one did this no movies would evolve and become better.

[onelegasy]

True, but I am griping about the compulsive whiners

[halo7]

Speaking of compulsive winers ^^^

Dude your wining about people not finding HORROR movies scary. Why the hell would people make horror movies if they werent meant to scare people?

[Tornado]

I will say whether or not a horror film is scary for one simple reason:

That's the entire point of a horror film.

If it doesn't scare you, then it didn't do its job. Plain and simple. I don't care if it's 'scary to the characters on screen'. All that matters is whether or not it scares US. And I'm finding that most horror films just aren't scary now. We're growing up in a different time period. What scares us now is nuclear war and crap like that. Not the f'n Boogeyman, it just doesn't do it (for me anyways) anymore.

Just my $6.72.

[Necross]

I understand what he is saying, he is talking about the people that ARE NEVER SCARED NO MATTER WHAT, but still go see horror movies and ***** that they weren't scared, even though they knew they wouldn't be. He isn't say, you can't like the movie, he is saying if you knew you weren't going to be scared, don't complain about it afterwards.

[panzertank]

ughhh, you know I don't want a hug or cookie or be called a hero, but I am just stating the point that if you didn't think a horror movie was scary you can say that. By your logic we should not be able to say whether a comedy is funny or not, or rate the love story in a romance. Look at critics and reviews, most say whether or not they find a horror movie scary. It is reviewing the movie. A review is the audience member's reaction. If the review is bad and just being troll like, we will all figure it out. I find lots of movies scary, the ring i thought was scary, 28 days later, dawn of the dead, i even thought shean or the dead had great moments.
...on second thought I would like that cookie, hmmm cookie:P

[Necross]

You still don't get it.....if you go to a movie expecting to be scared and you aren't then you can complain, fine, but if you go knowing you won't be scared, don't ***** that you weren't scared later.

[panzertank]

I didn't think shean would be scary but the last part had some really good moments.
so there is an example of a person going into a movie thinking it won't be scary, but it was. Isn't it possible someone will go in not thinking it will be scary but will be suprised. I understand everything he said, but i since i am new here i will ask the question, Isn't this forum about discussing movies and entertainment. I was discussing my thoughts with onelegasy. I understood everything he said.

[carnage4u]

basically I enjoy horror movies a lot. my favorite genre.

if someone sees one and donest like it, i dont really concern myself with it. Unless they are trying to tell my 28 days later had zombies in it, then i freak out on them.

[droidguy1119]

Horror movies can be watchable even if they aren't scary, but I think the valid point that onelegasy is making is that people who are pessimistic about horror films being good sometimes do see horror movies just to prove themselves right, and sometimes their comments are pretty ridiculous.

Personally, I don't expect 99% of the horror films I see to be scary. Sure, if I saw a comedy film and didn't laugh, it'd be a failure, but then again 99% of the comedy films I see do make me laugh, at least once. Since horror is so hard to do, and to be truly scared takes an incredible amount of effort, it's different for horror, by a little.

Then there's the question of classifcation. Personally, I thought SAW was a twisted thriller movie, not a horror movie -- just because there's blood and guts and it's horror-like doesn't make it an actual horror film. Because for me, SAW generated suspense and thrills, even if it wasn't neccesarily scary. It's as equally hard to define something as scary (say, as compared to suspenseful) as it is to classify a certain type of movie as actually being in the horror genre. Is Battle Royale a horror movie? Is Se7en a horror movie? Is Shaun of the Dead a horror movie? Is Constantine, or Pitch Black, or Brotherhood of the Wolf, or Oldboy a horror movie?

Personally, I can't think of more than a mere few films that have actually scared me. Some of these are not even horror films (drug films, such as the refrigerator/game show sequence in the middle of Requiem For A Dream scared the **** out of me). So I can see why it would be irritable when people who know they aren't going to be scared, and are really only going for the pleasure of being right, come on the boards and bash horror movies for the same old things over and over again, because it's useless.

Horror is almost a type of action movie nowadays, delivering a specific type of something, be it threat, main character, plot device or setting, and if you like horror movies for that then that's fine. Yes, people should have legitimate claims for bashing horror movies -- while I can't call "it's not scary" invalid, you should have to try and accurately explain why it's not scary or what caused the mood to be broken. Because you're supposed to do that with any movie, you can't just say "that sucked."

On the other hand, it's not fair to tell these people they have to shut up, or that their two cents is entirely worthless, but I can see why it's irritating, and these people should be required to elaborate.

[Glordreen]

Yes, people are entitled to say that they weren't scared, but my god, do we have to hear it all the time?



If they want to say it, let em.

[Jack]

basically I enjoy horror movies a lot. my favorite genre.

if someone sees one and donest like it, i dont really concern myself with it. Unless they are trying to tell my 28 days later had zombies in it, then i freak out on them.


hehe.

Well Tornado said this better than I, however it is kind of the key argument here:

If a movie fails to hit the exact benchmark it's own genre defines itself by, the filmmakers should damn well hear about it.

But I can understand the argument of how "unphased" kids have gotten I guess. I am also frusterated when I think a movie is really freaky and then someone writes it off as a joke. It's almost impossible to argue with, they were either scared or they wern't. Unless of course they got bored, fast forwarded it to the end, then complained it didn't make any sense....

[onelegasy]

I will say whether or not a horror film is scary for one simple reason:

That's the entire point of a horror film.

If it doesn't scare you, then it didn't do its job. Plain and simple. I don't care if it's 'scary to the characters on screen'. All that matters is whether or not it scares US. And I'm finding that most horror films just aren't scary now. We're growing up in a different time period. What scares us now is nuclear war and crap like that. Not the f'n Boogeyman, it just doesn't do it (for me anyways) anymore.

Just my $6.72.

Well, it's impossible to scare everyone, but my point again: If you don't find horror movies scary, don't go to them and complain that you weren't scared.

I mean, what exactly is the point? You are setting yourself up to be disappointed anyway.

[Necross]

Exactly, I'm willing to admit that I still get jumpy or scared at horror movies, so if one doesn't scare, I'll be the first to say it didn't, but if I go into one knowing I won't be scared, I won't complain I wasn't afterwards, I can still say the movie was bad, but not for that reason because I already knew that it wouldn't scare me, you know what I mean?

[Frizzo the Clown]

But unless you actually go and see the movie, you'll never know for sure whether its scary or not. A movie could surprise you. Therefore, you could still think that most modern horror movies aren't scary, but go to them anyway, because well...you're hoping that one will be better. Granted, I don't watch modern horror movies anyway. Not only are they not scary, they're all just remakes of much better, older films. ;)

[Necross]

I know what you mean, if the movie surprises you, and scares you, then great! But if you were expecting it NOT to scare you, then why complain afterwards if you knew it wouldn't? I'm not saying don't go see them if they don't scare you, hell, we all know that about 75% of the guys who go see horror movies just want to watch people die. I mean every see Final Destination 2 in the theatres, everyone was laughing....not me, I thought it was awful! Those poor people! See! I'm also a sap for people dying for no reason! I hate it! Which is why I'm surprised I loved Sin City....sorry, started to rant. :)

[onelegasy]

On the other hand, it's not fair to tell these people they have to shut up, or that their two cents is entirely worthless, but I can see why it's irritating, and these people should be required to elaborate.

Agreed.

I admit to being harsh with the STFU comment. BUT this is coming off of watching Amityville Horror. I was standing in the line, when the kids left the first show and they were *****ing that the movie wasn't scary at all. I went and saw it and would say that 90% of the theatre was entertained and there were a lot of screamer and jumpers.

The people my GF and I went with liked they movie, but the girl said that though she liked it; it wasn't scary.

B*ll*****. I watched her climb up in she seat a few times, and she jumped twice out of her seat.

Is it macho or cool to say that you weren't scared?

And yes, if people elaborated why they weren't scared or other reasons as to why they did not like the movie, that would help, and be a lot better than:

"I wasn't scared"

[Frizzo the Clown]

Agreed.

I admit to being harsh with the STFU comment. BUT this is coming off of watching Amityville Horror. I was standing in the line, when the kids left the first show and they were *****ing that the movie wasn't scary at all. I went and saw it and would say that 90% of the theatre was entertained and there were a lot of screamer and jumpers.

The people my GF and I went with liked they movie, but the girl said that though she liked it; it wasn't scary.

B*ll*****. I watched her climb up in she seat a few times, and she jumped twice out of her seat.

Is it macho or cool to say that you weren't scared?

And yes, if people elaborated why they weren't scared or other reasons as to why they did not like the movie, that would help, and be a lot better than:

"I wasn't scared"
I'll agree with that. I mean, I hate "movie reviews" that have nothing to say other than "this movie rocks," "this movie sucks" or "this movie wasn't scary." It may have been a bad movie, and it may have not scared you, but at least elaborate on your statement. Tell me why it was good or bad, or why it was or wasnt' scary. Sure, for some of us, the reasons might be obvious, but they won't be to everyone.

[Necross]

Thats what I agree with too. I mean if I see someone who says it wasn't scary, i can't argue with them, but if I go with someone and I see them jumping or putting hands over their face or something and they say it wasn't scary, i will *****slap them! Plus, elaborate as well, the movie sucked is rather vague...don't you think?

[Mat]

Jumping during a movie doesn't necessarily mean that it's scary. It's just a natural reaction to a sudden loud noise. Fear is a deeper feeling. For a movie to truly be scary, it has to wrap us into it before letting loose the scares.

A horror movie, though, doesn't have to be scary to be good, I agree. It just has to have some redeeming values to make up for it's lack of scariness.

[panzertank]

Yah I see what you mean with the amityville horror thing you said, but just take it easy and remember that you had a better time than they did. While they were being macho, you were enjoying what scary movies are made for, so let them do what ever they want to do. Ignore them. Thats why I go to scary movies with girls who tell me befor hand they hate scary movies. Its much more enjoyable for me.:cool:
So in that case I agree with Mat, who agrees with necross, who agrees with Frizzo, who agrees with onelegasy, who agrees with necross...wait a sec...
so much love in here, who wants some orange tang:)

[Necross]

Ya know I try doing that with any movie really, I still argue about it, but my base feeling is that if they didn't enjoy it, too bad for them. I believe that for all movies. Its their own problem that they didn't have a good time. Me being able to watch nearly anything (NEARLY NOT ALL) and enjoy it, just increses the chances that I'll have a good time.

[FaceOff]

Movies aren't scary... I love horror movies to say they scared me is silly. Maybe when I was 7 years old movies would SCARE me. So NO! I don't watch horror movies because I want to be scared. I watch Horror movies hoping they will make you say WOW thats f'ed up. Now how is a horror movie good? It's good when it gives you chills. It's good when your mind starts playing games with you while your watching the movie at home in the dark. If you think I'm trying to be macho saying movies don't scare me your wrong.

[panzertank]

I don't think that was what the arguement was about, it was more around people complaining about things not being scary just to be cool on the boards. It was about it being annoying when people don't give reasons. Im all about expressing opinions, but I see whay everyone means when pointless arguements are put out there. I think it is ok to say it didn't scare me, but then back it up. For example I previously said that jeepers creepers didn't scare me. A reason for that was I thought it showed too much or the creature, to fast. It was good at the beginning when there was mystery in it, but for me it got old fast. I thought the twist at the end was ok in the way the villian wins, but by going the cg route and showing us the creature all the time and going for the gore factor I didn't enjoy it too much. I think it would have been better if the creature had been showed more in shadows, and never really seen clearly. The would have been creepier.
That was my thoughts on why it wasn't scary. I showed a specific aspect I didn't like and had an idea on how to improve. If anyone says I am not entitled to do that, then I think they are wrong. If I had said instead, Jeepers Creepers sucked cause I didn't like it, then that is just annoying. Thank you.

[FVD]

Hey Spidey,

Didn't you once have that avatar that Legacy now uses about a year ago? And yes that avatar looks disturbing. I always hoped that she be okay.

[onelegasy]

I don't think that was what the arguement was about, it was more around people complaining about things not being scary just to be cool on the boards. It was about it being annoying when people don't give reasons. Im all about expressing opinions, but I see whay everyone means when pointless arguements are put out there. I think it is ok to say it didn't scare me, but then back it up. For example I previously said that jeepers creepers didn't scare me. A reason for that was I thought it showed too much or the creature, to fast. It was good at the beginning when there was mystery in it, but for me it got old fast. I thought the twist at the end was ok in the way the villian wins, but by going the cg route and showing us the creature all the time and going for the gore factor I didn't enjoy it too much. I think it would have been better if the creature had been showed more in shadows, and never really seen clearly. The would have been creepier.
That was my thoughts on why it wasn't scary. I showed a specific aspect I didn't like and had an idea on how to improve. If anyone says I am not entitled to do that, then I think they are wrong. If I had said instead, Jeepers Creepers sucked cause I didn't like it, then that is just annoying. Thank you.

Well put, and I agree with your complaint of Jeepers Creepers.

[secant]

I get your point, onelegasy, and I see how it gets on your nerves. Maybe "how scary it is" shouldn't be the deciding factor for how good a horror movie is.

I will never do that because alll horror movies scare the pee out of me, even the really bad ones like Urban Legends. Which is why it is not my genre of choice, I don't like being scared.

[onelegasy]

lol

Well then, you are people i enjoy watching in the movie theatres.

I wish there were more people like you going to see horror movies. It would make it fun to go to the movies again.