What big budget movie will flop this summer?

[fantasticfour40]

I'm going to say Kingdom of Heaven will do good in it's first week and then take nose dive

[Fanible]

Your mom

[moviemaker93]

Edit: I meant to put my reply and my quote in the same post which is why i posted again. Sorry, tyross.

[moviemaker93]

Your mom

:lol:

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What do you mean by flop? If that means like do bad then I would have to say the island. I will see it. I think i will love it but judging by the box office I'm not sure if it will do too good. Even if FF doesn't turn out that well of a film many will still see it. Kingdom of heaven has too much hype surrounding it to be going down the drain right after first week.

[spide-ed]

I have a really terrible feeling, that Batman Begins will be fantastic and will go right over the heads of US mainstream audiences and not fufil its potential.
I hope to be proved wrong.

[fantasticfour40]

Batman Begins will at least gross $200 million, if not more.

[Tornado]

....will go right over the heads of US mainstream audiences....

I don't know about that. I think the US would be more inclined to see it than any other nation.

[fantasticfour40]

US Loves Batman.

[spide-ed]

Just like US loved the Hulk?

[fantasticfour40]

Hulk only made $162 million I think right.

[Ace]

$132 million

[spide-ed]

$135 i think or something around that. All these soocer moms took thier kids to see what they thought would be a cheesey, kiddy action flick, they got a clever, pyscho-drama with some action. So..... audiences deserted the film after a massive opening weekend, all cus the audeiences couldnt accept an adult comic-book film. This is my fear for Batman, thats all.

[Tornado]

Just like US loved the Hulk?

Well, it still made $132 million in the US. That's not bad money for a movie that many considered to be 'a flop'.

[Ace]

Yeah, when you think about it, $132 million for a movie isnt a flop!

[spide-ed]

Well, it still made $132 million in the US. That's not bad money for a movie that many considered to be 'a flop'.

Agreed, and i dont really consider Hulk a flop. Its just i think Universal expected a Spidey-sized hit and they got a reasonable hit on par with Cheaper by the Dozen.
I just get feeling WB think they will make spidey-sized money and it will be too adult and drama based to have a hit that size.

[fantasticfour40]

Your'e right batman could be too adult and dramatic but also might have a lot of action in it. Did you see the last part of the trailer?

[Ace]

hey guys, how about a thread where we guess the box office of summer movies? =D

[Tornado]

Agreed, and i dont really consider Hulk a flop. Its just i think Universal expected a Spidey-sized hit and they got a reasonable hit on par with Cheaper by the Dozen.

Yeah, that's true.

I just get feeling WB think they will make spidey-sized money and it will be too adult and drama based to have a hit that size.

Yeah, I'll go with that as well. I think BB will be great, but I think too many people were disappointed with 'Batman and Robin' to give the series another chance.

[Tornado]

hey guys, how about a thread where we guess the box office of summer movies? =D

Go ahead and make it Ace, I'll chime in with some thoughts on it.

[Ace]

i hope not bad thoughts but ok.....

[spide-ed]

Yeh well the trailer was awesome, it looks like there will be lots of action, or maybe they crammed all the action IN the entire movie into that 10 seconds. You know, the way The Scary Movie series put all the funny bits in the trailer.
I guess im trying to prepare myself for the worst, (i.e no sequel)

[Tornado]

i hope not bad thoughts but ok.....

Hah, no. It's a good idea for a thread.

[fantasticfour40]

Yeah, that's true.



Yeah, I'll go with that as well. I think BB will be great, but I think too many people were disappointed with 'Batman and Robin' to give the series another chance.


Batman and Robin is out of their heads. They know with a great cast, begins will be able to hit $200 million.

[Tornado]

Batman and Robin is out of their heads. They know with a great cast, begins will be able to hit $200 million.

Good to know that you've discovered a way to hack into everybody's minds.

[spide-ed]

Yeah, I'll go with that as well. I think BB will be great, but I think too many people were disappointed with 'Batman and Robin' to give the series another chance.

Its hard for us to gauge really, as we are all film-fans on here. However the majority of movie goers are small minded and have crap-for-brains.

[fantasticfour40]

I think most moviegoers have open minds.

[Tornado]

Its hard for us to gauge really, as we are all film-fans on here. However the majority of movie goers are small minded and have crap-for-brains.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you on that. I went to Sin City with eight other people, and only one of them classifies as a 'film-fan' (besides myself).

[CConn]

I think most moviegoers have open minds.I agree. B&R's way in the past for most "normal" moviegoers I know...

[spide-ed]

I think most moviegoers have open minds.

Is that why about 5 people in the entire continental United States went to see Donnie Darko and The Shawshank Redemption? Probably beacuse there were no talking animals or exploisions in it.

[Karma Dog]

However the majority of movie goers are small minded and have crap-for-brains.

Wow that makes you sound like a complete idiot.

[CConn]

Is that why about 5 people in the entire continental United States went to see Donnie Darko and The Shawshank Redemption? Probably beacuse there were no talking animals or exploisions in it.But there are explosions in BB...lots of 'em. :)

[spide-ed]

But there are explosions in BB...lots of 'em. :)

I guess Batman counts as a talking animal too, looks like it'll be a hit.

[CConn]

I guess Batman counts as a talking animal too, looks like it'll e a hit. :omg: You're right!

Seriously, if you've read the BB script you'll know BB will be nowhere near as boring as the Hulk. The Hulk basically has no action until to final 30 mins. BB has a large action sequence during the first act, as well as several during the third.

Not to mention the whole tone of BB is different, the whole was nothing but a boring melodrama with a bunch of scientific garbage thrown in. BB's about Ninjas, gadgets, and Batman. That's a big difference.

[spide-ed]

:omg: You're right!

Seriously, if you've read the BB script you'll know BB will be nowhere near as boring as the Hulk. The Hulk basically has no action until to final 30 mins. BB has a large action sequence during the first act, as well as several during the third.

Woah, cool, i didnt read the script as i sorta wanna be taken by surprised by it, but im looking forward to seeing the first true Batman film (ie, actor who looks like Batman/ Bruce Wayne, supposedly based on source material and gritty-dark setting)

[Ace]

Hah, no. It's a good idea for a thread.

well its up

[CConn]

Woah, cool, i didnt read the script as i sorta wanna be taken by surprised by it, but im looking forward to seeing the first true Batman film (ie, actor who looks like Batman/ Bruce Wayne, supposedly based on source material and gritty-dark setting)
Yeah, I think it being the fifth Batman film may hurt it, but I think the high calibur of the film and the marketing will keep it from doing poorly...

[true fan11212]

Kingdom Of Heaven or Fantastic Four.

I don't hate Orlando Bloom like some people do but I'd be the first to admit that he has very little range. Therefore, the prospect of him carrying a film is both scary and dubious(sure, Pirates Of The Carribean was a hit but it was because of Johnny Depp's great performance). Also, after the onslaught of disappointing to bad post LOTR/Gladiator epics, I think people might be turned off by this film.

As for Fantastic Four; I'm one of the people that actually thinks this film will be pretty good but the negative buzz might be too hard to overcome.

[Glordreen]

Batman Begins will at least gross $200 million, if not more.

uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh.................no. 150mil at best.

[Glordreen]

Kingdom of Heaven will not bomb. It will at least get 115+mil

[Glordreen]

Batman and Robin is out of their heads. They know with a great cast, begins will be able to hit $200 million.

How? How is it possibly out of their heads? It was the last Batman movie. And most people dont know that Begins is a prequal, yeah even with the title "Begins". And most people dont know the cast. If I asked an average person who Christian Bale was, they would not be able to tell me.

[neo5595]

Fantastic 4 or Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory


uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh.................no. 150mil at best.
Your definelty right on that one. Batman Begins will probably be pretty good, but its not gonna do anything spectacular at the box office.

[Glordreen]

I think most moviegoers have open minds.

Vice versa.

[Glordreen]

Anyways, There will be two flops. One not so big, one big.

Not so big- Batman Begtins
Big- Fantastic Four

[sshuttari]

STEALH will BOMB at the boxoffice...

enough said

[Glordreen]

Agreed. Stealth will bomb gigantically.

[Ace]

Agreed. Stealth will bomb gigantically.

I dont think so
for one thing, it actually looks good unlike crap like xXx and fast and furious
and plus, since people say Jamie Foxx is now a good actor, they'll probably go and see his latest

And millions of guys seem to think Jessica Biel (hot bod, ok face)

so u never know

[sshuttari]

lets see...

Halle Berry wins oscar and shes a good actress, people wanna see her latest plus she also has a Hot Bod.

wat was her next... Catwomen

how many people saw that movie???? :rolleyes:

[Ace]

stealth actually looks entertaining unlike catwoman

[CConn]

How? How is it possibly out of their heads? It was the last Batman movie.Because few people care. At least any of the "general public" I know. If it looks good, they'll see it. All the existance B&R does is make them a bit wary, which can easily be defeated with good marketing, IMO.
And most people dont know that Begins is a prequal, yeah even with the title "Begins". And most people dont know the cast. If I asked an average person who Christian Bale was, they would not be able to tell me.It's not that big of a factor, I mean, most people know who Freeman and Neeson are as well as Holmes. And as for Bale, Tobey McGuire (and hell, even Christopher Reeve with Superman) wasn't particularly a known actor before Spider-Man.

[Glordreen]

Stealth has bomb written all over it. Crappy story, crappy CG, just crap. It will be exactly what its title says in the BO, it will stealthly pass through, making no impact.

It looks like Thunderbirds of last year, and we all know what happened to that. Or not, since no one saw it.

[Fanible]

Because few people care. At least any of the "general public" I know. If it looks good, they'll see it. All the existance B&R does is make them a bit wary, which can easily be defeated with good marketing, IMO.

The general public is going to remember the last Batman and choose whether or not to see this one just because it has the same name. That's the general public. The people that don't go researching into a movie or thinking into it too much. All they know is that it's another Batman movie, with yet again a different actor playing Batman. That's it.

Obviously if they happen upon a TV commercial they might be more interested, but it still doesn't change things for many people.

[CConn]

The general public is going to remember the last Batman and choose whether or not to see this one just because it has the same name. That's the general public. The people that don't go researching into a movie or thinking into it too much. All they know is that it's another Batman movie, with yet again a different actor playing Batman. That's it.

Obviously if they happen upon a TV commercial they might be more interested, but it still doesn't change things for many people.But y'see with BB, they're not just going to "happen" upon a TV commerical. They'll be ads all over the place, BB will be on cans of coke, in happy meals, on billboards, etc. You're gonna have the cast making the rounds on the talk shows. If BB gets enough exposure that it isn't the same old Batman movie, that it is something different (which I believe it will), B&R won't hurt it much.

[Fanible]

Those type of things don't change people's minds. Those were all over the place when Batman Forever came out, as well as Batman and Robin.

I'm not saying it will bomb like some others are, but these are simply the facts. Some people just won't see it because of the last, cause that's the first thing they're going to think of. How it went from the, great/good Batman Returns, to the good/ok Batman Forever, and then to the ok/bad Batman Robins. THAT'S what they'll be thinking about when they see all your ads on Billboards, Cans and Commercials.

But no, like I said, I don't think it will bomb, but it definitly won't be a super grosser either that some people are boasting it will be, just because they are aware or think it'll be good.

[CConn]

Those type of things don't change people's minds. Those were all over the place when Batman Forever came out, as well as Batman and Robin.But Batman Forever made quite a bit of money than Returns. Batman Forever was actually quite a successful picture of WB.

I'm not saying it will bomb like some others are, but these are simply the facts. Some people just won't see it because of the last, cause that's the first thing they're going to think of. How it went from the, great/good Batman Returns, to the good/ok Batman Forever, and then to the ok/bad Batman Robins. THAT'S what they'll be thinking about when they see all your ads on Billboards, Cans and Commercials.But the general public was a quite unhappy with the dark tone of Returns, especially parents. And what did WB do? They marketed Batman Forever as a much lighter film (as it was), and what happened? It made more. Same thing could have for BB...only in the other direction.

But no, like I said, I don't think it will bomb, but it definitly won't be a super grosser either that some people are boasting it will be, just because they are aware or think it'll be good.Truthfully, I don't think BB will to well simply because it's going to be a great film. The marketing will be just as important (ala you go because of the marketing, you stay because of the quality of the film). That's what I think will help BB.

[Fanible]

Batman Forever made more money because people liked Batman Returns. Batman and Robin made less because some went away unhappy with Batman Forever, and also from the bad reports. But even then it still made some because of the small amount of people that liked Batman Forever.

You're thinking into it too much from a commonly attended movie goer's point of view, and I'm looking from the common, and general public. Everything you said most people will reacte to who actually read into that kind of stuff. There's 400-500 million people in America. The common public are the general people, a HUGE chunk of that sum. Think about how much money a movie makes and how much a movie ticket costs. Even if the movie made atleast 150million, a large bit of the general public still didn't bother with it, as they don't with many films.

Spider-Man 1's sum of money it made? Quite a chunk of the general public bothered with that. And that was really unusual. I don't think it will happen with Batman Begins, especially because it's a "sequel", and a "sequel" to a bad line. People see 'sequels' depending on what they thought of the previous films. A sequel will either rise or fall, simply depending on what people thought of the prior films, not on how good the advertising is. Harry Potter and Star Wars Episode 1 films had huge grosses, but also fell in grosses big time in comparison when their next movie sequels came out. This wasn't because the films had less advertising and worse marketing... people simply didn't like the first one's as much. Ditto with Spider-Man 1 to Spider-Man 2's drop.

Ad campaigning usually plays that extremely large role more so for first timer movies. Sequels have to depend on ads just as much on what people's opinions were on the previous films. That's why many studios PUMP out sequels, cause depending on whether or not a movie good good raves and tons of money, that's always a guarentee that the sequel will make a lot, even if not as much, because people simply LIKED the first one.

[CConn]

Batman Forever made more money because people liked Batman Returns. Batman and Robin made less because some went away unhappy with Batman Forever, and also from the bad reports. But even then it still made some because of the small amount of people that liked Batman Forever.No way. B&R tanked because it was bad. It would've tanked if it was releasd after B89.

You're thinking into it too much from a commonly attended movie goer's point of view, and I'm looking from the common, and general public. Everything you said most people will reacte to who actually read into that kind of stuff. There's 400-500 million people in America. The common public are the general people, a HUGE chunk of that sum. Think about how much money a movie makes and how much a movie ticket costs. Even if the movie made atleast 150million, a large bit of the general public still didn't bother with it, as they don't with many films.But how often do people ignore a good action summer blockbuster that has a ton of marketing?

As for me "not thinking about the general public," they're exactly who I'm talking about base marketing; like I've said, soda cans and billboards. Those are put out to attract the hardcore movie fan. In fact, oddly enough, of the people I know, the guy who was the most of a film buff, had the least optimistic opinion of BB. I actually expect them, the film buffs, to be the hardest on BB, because they actually care about the quality of films. The general public doesn't hold grudges like film buffs do.

Spider-Man 1's sum of money it made? Quite a chunk of the general public bothered with that. And that was really unusual. I don't think it will happen with Batman Begins.I agree, BB doesn't have a chance to make that much. SM1 made 400 mil. I'm thinking more around 250, myself.

[Fanible]

No way. B&R tanked because it was bad. It would've tanked if it was releasd after B89.

Except for the fact that it DID make money regardless. Enough money from the people that liked Batman Forever. The decline was from people and (AS I ALREADY MENTIONED) bad word of mouth, but also because not as many people liked the previous either.


But how often do people ignore a good action summer blockbuster that has a ton of marketing?

Not often, if it's not a sequel. You can ad-campaign and market your ass off on a Battlefield: Earth sequel for example, but it won't make that much money, guarenteed, even if it's looking fantastic to "us".


As for me "not thinking about the general public," they're exactly who I'm talking about base marketing; like I've said, soda cans and billboards. Those are put out to attract the hardcore movie fan. In fact, oddly enough, of the people I know, the guy who was the most of a film buff, had the least optimistic opinion of BB. I actually expect them, the film buffs, to be the hardest on BB, because they actually care about the quality of films. The general public doesn't hold grudges like film buffs do.

Yes they do! Film buffs are people like US, in these forums. The one's who HAVE been reading into the film, the making of and how it's coming about. Coming to realisation that HEY, this movie actually could be PRETTY FREAKIN GOOD. The COMMON public are the people who MIGHT see the movie on a soda can or a TV commercial and think not "HEY, this movie actually could be PRETTY FREAKIN GOOD.", but "Another Batman movie? The last one sucked, whatever."

The MOVIE BUFFS are the ones not going to shrug it off. They're the ones going to look deeper into it and find out just WHAT it's all about.

Obviously bad word of mouth, or good, can play a big part though, of course. So clearly if the movie turns out to be as fantastic as we all hope, that will spread and people NOT wanting to see it (the general public who were thinking "whatever"), might end up venturing out and taking a look, making it it's large sum over a period of time.

[CConn]

Except for the fact that it DID make money regardless. Enough money from the people that liked Batman Forever. The decline was from people and (AS I ALREADY MENTIONED) bad word of mouth, but also because not as many people liked the previous either.Yeah, but I don't think that'd account for a sizable amount of the BO. I mean, Batman Returns was actually good, and it only made 160 mil, B&R was horrible and made 100 million. Obviously, despite B89 making 250 million, that didn't boost the BO of BR by any significant amount.
Not often, if it's not a sequel. You can ad-campaign and market your ass off on a Battlefield: Earth sequel for example, but it won't make that much money, guarenteed, even if it's looking fantastic to "us".Except Battlefield: Earth never had a good movie to begin with. Batman has. That gives it a...foundation. People can say, "Yeah, the last one was bad, but I liked the 1/2/3," etc. You couldn't say that about Battilefield: Earth.

[Fanible]

Except Battlefield: Earth never had a good movie to begin with. Batman has. That gives it a...foundation. People can say, "Yeah, the last one was bad, but I liked the 1/2/3," etc. You couldn't say that about Battilefield: Earth.

Ok, here we go again. That would be coming from a more commoner that attends movies. Not necessarily a MOVIE BUFF, but a commoner movie goer. One who attends plenty of movies but doesn't necessarily make it his over-whelming passion. The common public doesn't THINK like that, like you said above. They just don't. It wouldn't of mattered if Battlefield: Earth had a movie prior to it and it was GREAT, and then it's sequel was the Battlefield: Earth you and I know (that really BAD one). The sequel would of then made a good chunk of money simply from the first being great. But then if a THIRD one came out, the common public isn't going to think to themselves "Well... doo dee doo, the FIRST one was good, despite the second totally sucking... so, I guess I'll see this". No, they'd simply say "The second one SUCKED. A third one? Whatever..."

This goes back to my examples of Star Wars Ep. 1 and the first Harry Potter, and their massive declines in comparison to their first films. Because several people who were looking forward to their first films, when they saw the second one's ads, they simply said "A second one? Whatever, the first one was just ok."

That's the general public.

[Fanible]

You know what? I don't really care anymore. I guess the film school that I started attending at the age of 17/18 was just a big waste of time.

Anyway, I do think the film will make a good sum of money regardless, big or large either way. The one factor it has on it's side is the timing. If it had come out in 1999 or 2000, it would of ended up making far less than it would now in 2005.

[CConn]

You know what? I don't really care anymore. I guess the film school that I started attending at the age of 17/18 was just a big waste of time.Hey, dude, please, don't get offended. I've enjoyed our little...debate. And I certainly respect the opinion you've put forth. I don't think it's anymore right or wrong then my opinion is...we won't really know until July about that.
Anyway, I do think the film will make a good sum of money regardless, big or large either way. The one factor it has on it's side is the timing. If it had come out in 1999 or 2000, it would of ended up making far less than it would now in 2005.I agree with you 100% there. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Ace]

Stealth has bomb written all over it. Crappy story, crappy CG, just crap. It will be exactly what its title says in the BO, it will stealthly pass through, making no impact.

It looks like Thunderbirds of last year, and we all know what happened to that. Or not, since no one saw it.

we'll see
im guessing about 35 million opening weekend

[fantasticfour40]

Stealth has Jamie Foxx.

[sshuttari]

Stealth has Jamie Foxx.

so freakin what Catwoman had Halle Berry

it has nothing to do with star power, even Tom Hanks had made a bad movie that nobody saw (The Ladykillers)

[poeman]

ff 4... i have a bad feeling for some r eason

[poeman]

Stealth has bomb written all over it. Crappy story, crappy CG, just crap. It will be exactly what its title says in the BO, it will stealthly pass through, making no impact.

It looks like Thunderbirds of last year, and we all know what happened to that. Or not, since no one saw it.

thats what i thgt after i saw a poster... but that trailer is pretty damn good for stealth.. thuderbirds was childish thast why.... stealth on other hand looks damn good fun film for som reason... and those planes look nice too

[Ace]

thats what i thgt after i saw a poster... but that trailer is pretty damn good for stealth.. thuderbirds was childish thast why.... stealth on other hand looks damn good fun film for som reason... and those planes look nice too

damn straight

[Ace]

lets see...

Halle Berry wins oscar and shes a good actress, people wanna see her latest plus she also has a Hot Bod.

wat was her next... Catwomen

how many people saw that movie???? :rolleyes:

actually, i think Halle Berry won an Oscar for Monsters Ball and her next movies were Die Another Day, X2: Xmen United, and Gothika
All did well

Stealth looks awesome and Catwoman looked like a piece of crap by the very first teaser

Everyone was bashing Catwoman before it came out because it didnt stay true to the comic book
So most of the fans of Catwoman probably didnt see it and only some catwoman fans and die hard fans of Halle Berry saw it and it made $18 mill opening weekend

Jamie Foxx opened Ray up with around 20 million and people are saying hes the next best thing so i think everyone will see his next project to see if he really is

Plus, theres Jessica Biel and in the trailer, shes in a skimpy blue bikini so i think guys would definitely want to rush to the movie

and Plus, this is by the director of such hits like XXX and Fast and Furious, which all opened up around 45 million

Nuff said

[Ace]

fantastic 4 will not flop
that movie also looks awesome

[fantasticfour40]

You're right about that Ace.

[Ace]

thank you FantasticFour40

At least one person in this thread is smart

[fantasticfour40]

Fantastic Four will do about the same as the first X-men but it won't be a flop.

I think I'm starting to lean towards Stealth as the big budget flop of the summer.

[Ace]

How much is the budget?

[RedVader 2004]

Fantastic Four and Batman has to big a comicbook fan base. Them plus Star Wars has the biggest fan base of the movies due out this summer. It will do around 230 million maybe state side and maybe 425 million world wide. I think Batman Begins will be around a 250 mill film. I think those two comics will be close in the over all box office number. Kingdom Of Heaven won't flop that bad. It should make atleast 180 million.
I think War Of The Worlds and Charlie and The Chocolate Factory will be a surprise bomb.

[sshuttari]

Fantastic Four and Batman has to big a comicbook fan base. Them plus Star Wars has the biggest fan base of the movies due out this summer. It will do around 230 million maybe state side and maybe 425 million world wide. I think Batman Begins will be around a 250 mill film. I think those two comics will be close in the over all box office number. Kingdom Of Heaven won't flop that bad. It should make atleast 180 million.
I think War Of The Worlds and Charlie and The Chocolate Factory will be a surprise bomb.


im going to have to say NO about war of the worlds and Choc. Fact. being a surprise bomb.

thats all...


its really hard to predict right now how bad or good Fantastic4 will do becuz from the new trailer alot of people changed there mind on the movie being bad.

i actually first considered Island being bad, but once i saw the Int. Trailer for it im hyped for that movie and so are alot of people.

[liesse00]

Ah Yea, July 4th weekend aliens I have a hard time seeing War of the Worlds flopping. Alien movies always do good at the box office.

[spide-ed]

I cant see Charlie and Choc Factory flopping, it has the golden boy of the moment Mr Depp in a famous childrens book adaptation. Families will be queing up to see it.

WotW will do ok, but i think its lack lustre trailers have let it down so far. But it has Spielberg and Cruise so it will do at least decent business.

[RedVader 2004]

There are to many movies coming out this summer. Not all can be big box office winners. War Of the Worlds will have its hands full with F.F. Charlie and the chocolate factory looks kind of wierd and i am tired of depp everywhere. His only good role was in Pirates of the caribbean.

[ambrosia]

I can't really say why, but I see Fantastic Four having a hard time at the Box Office...

[spide-ed]

There are to many movies coming out this summer. Not all can be big box office winners. War Of the Worlds will have its hands full with F.F. Charlie and the chocolate factory looks kind of wierd and i am tired of depp everywhere. His only good role was in Pirates of the caribbean.

Hmmm well Finding Neverland wasnt exactly Gigli. He was nominated for an academy award for it. Imo his performance in POTC was the only thing that saved the film from mediocraty.

[Mike Teevee]

I don't see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory flopping. If any of them do worse than expected, I would guess FF 4. But, until they are released, who knows for sure.

[zrelmar]

As much as I know Dreamworks' CGI family comedies rake in the money, I really want Madagascar to tank. It looks just horrible. As for Stealth, I'll probably buy a ticket just to point a laser pen at the screen.

[Ad Lib]

Batman Begins. No doubt

[Glordreen]

There are to many movies coming out this summer. Not all can be big box office winners. War Of the Worlds will have its hands full with F.F. Charlie and the chocolate factory looks kind of wierd and i am tired of depp everywhere. His only good role was in Pirates of the caribbean.

Actually FF4 will have it hand full with War of the Worlds. War of the Worlds will destroy ff4.

And about Depp. You say his only good role was in Pirates. What about: Finding Neverland, Ed Wood, Sleepy Hollow, Edward Sccisor Hands, etc.

[sshuttari]

no matter what u think of Dreamworks Movies or Madagascar, that movie will bring in the dough. Not to mention An all star cast of vioces like Shrek and Sharktale.


Sharktale was bad ill admit, but it made money and was nominated for an Oscar...sadly

[LS2002]

Actually I think Madagascar looks hilarious. And your a fool to think that it won't make money. Also I don't think WOTW will effect FF as much as people think. it doesn't even target the same audience and atleast it's not opening July 4th weekend like it was slated to do. I think FF will get money because comic fans will see it.

[todd philip]

fantastic 4

[todd philip]

Herbie Full Loaded

Dukes Of Hazzard

Bewitched