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Superman
03-30-2005, 11:42 PM
I'm not too sure about the premise. I haven't lost total faith in him because of "The Village" but it sounds kinda blah. I don't know. Thoughts.

droidguy1119
03-30-2005, 11:52 PM
I lost faith in Shyamalan because of The Village. This movie sounds horrible. A woman in a swimming pool? Really? Come on...

Kitty
03-30-2005, 11:55 PM
does anyone know at least the name is or what its about?
(is in the dark here)

Superman
03-30-2005, 11:56 PM
does anyone know at least the name is or what its about?
(is in the dark here)

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8987

rosncranz
03-31-2005, 02:03 AM
I dont know, I think it sounds really interesting. I thought Signs, Sixth Sense, and Unbreakable were amazing, and I thought The Village was actually okay. I love that he thinks outside the box a lot, and Bryce Dallas is a damn good actress, and Giamatti is amazing. I am actually really excited about this. Droid, I am dissapointed in you. For one thing dont over simplify the plot, its not about a woman in a swimming pool, she's a nymph. HAHA. I thought you were smarter than writing off a great director because of one bad movie, shame shame shame.

Faithless Eye
03-31-2005, 03:51 AM
I thought M. Night was going to do Life of Pi next. Shame he isn't - I'd have thought he would have been quite good for that.

vision_afar
03-31-2005, 07:55 AM
I haven't lost faith in Shyamalan because of the Village which I thought was ok. I'm really looking forward to his new movie. It may seem like a rather silly story now, but that's what many people though for his previous movies too.

Mike Teevee
03-31-2005, 09:44 AM
I certainly hope its good. He has a lot of talent and although his last movie was a disappointment, I expect we haven't seent he last of great films from him.

Frizzo the Clown
03-31-2005, 09:45 AM
M. Night's new movie. Sound good? Or sound like a punch to the kidneys?
What if you enjoy being punched in the kidneys?

DieselPower
03-31-2005, 09:55 AM
What if you enjoy being punched in the kidneys?
Thats a tricky one :hehe:

Here's his latest movie info so you dont have to go lookin for it.

Lady in the Water
Release Date: July 21, 2006
Director: M. Night Shyamalan
Screenwriter: M. Night Shyamalan
Starring: Paul Giamatti, Bryce Dallas Howard
Plot Summary: A building super (Paul Giamatti) finds a sea nymph (Bryce Dallas Howard) in his apartment's swimming pool.

A sea nymph....sounds interesting

Warren
03-31-2005, 11:11 AM
I'm guessing that THE WOMAN IS ACTUALLY A MAN! OR A GHOST!

Drizzt240
03-31-2005, 11:12 AM
I've liked all M. Night films.

I will see this definatly.

Brenzi51
03-31-2005, 11:32 AM
This movie better not have one of those crazy twists to it...i'm so sick of that

DieselPower
03-31-2005, 11:58 AM
The crazy twist in the end will be that he finds out that the Lady is a man.

tHE wORM
03-31-2005, 12:57 PM
Although The Village didn't give me what I was expecting I still thought it was good. His other films are great and he is a great filmmaker. Can't wait to see his next project.

kel thuzad
03-31-2005, 01:20 PM
I really liked Village, although its nowhere near Unbreakable, I enjoyed it very much...
Actually, as im thinking about it, Village was pretty awesome!
Hes a great director, Im looking forward to this...

Necross
03-31-2005, 01:33 PM
I have liked all his movies, so I don't know why this would be any different for me.

Fanible
03-31-2005, 07:22 PM
This movie better not have one of those crazy twists to it...i'm so sick of that

That's kind of what he's known for... and so far I've enjoyed all of them (if you can really call anything that happened in The Signs a "twist" of course).

terabyte25
04-01-2005, 09:24 AM
Are you kidding me? A movie about a sea nymph?? Geez... what is it, a remake of "Splash"? No no...

M.Night is a good director, but he needs to think more outside the box than he has been so far. He's pigeon-holing himself into suspense/horror-ish movies, and it's been interesting so far, but it's getting stale, despite the "surprise endings". He likes things dark, and using the fear of the unknown. I would like to see him doing something a bit more realistic and dramatic.

Superman
04-01-2005, 10:47 AM
but that's what many people though for his previous movies too.

Well no one really knew too much what his movies were about before they came out, but from what we knew they sounded interesting. I thought "The Village" had potential from what we knew before it came out, it sounded like it was going to be a hell of a ride!

Superman
04-01-2005, 10:48 AM
What if you enjoy being punched in the kidneys?

I take it it will be the equivalent of "Gone With the Wind" for you in terms of quality. :applaud: :hehe:

droidguy1119
04-01-2005, 03:14 PM
The Sixth Sense was a slightly choppy blend, then Unbreakable was pretty much perfectly balanced, but since then Shyamalan's directing has gotten stronger and stronger while his writing has gotten worse and worse. It's just Unbreakable that matched his direction with his writing perfectly, and then in Signs we got moments like the knife-under-the-door, where the tension was brilliant, coupled with the all-too-easy aliens-are-evil ending with a goofy incorporation of the 'swing away' advice and the expected asthma attack, and Mel's eventual return to priesthood, as if Shyamalan gave us enough about the character to truly be worried he wouldn't go back Then The Village had some killer shots, such as Ivy on her front porch reaching out without knowing what's there (performed perfectly by Bryce Dallas Howard, the only good thing about literally, I think any person who worked on The Village) all made pretty worthless by a terrible, terrible story with a terrible, terrible ending.

It just sounds like Lady in the Water will be worse, with beautiful shots of this mysterious woman and nothing whatsoever to do with her than make her into some spiritual labyrinth of question marks, paid off in pull-a-fast-one kind of way.

spide-ed
04-01-2005, 03:22 PM
The only decent movie hes done is Unbreakable, The Village was so dull it hurt my head.

poashaggy69
04-01-2005, 03:57 PM
I can already guess the ending to this one.

the end of shyamalan's career.

:eek:

spide-ed
04-01-2005, 04:12 PM
I can already guess the ending to this one.

the end of shyamalan's career.

:eek:

We can but hope! I wish he'd go away and stop writing his pretenteous pap. Maybe he can write Mills and Boon books.

kel thuzad
04-01-2005, 04:24 PM
We can but hope! I wish he'd go away and stop writing his pretenteous pap. Maybe he can write Mills and Boon books.
Stop it...
If you dont like him, just dont watch his movies. You dont have to insult his work...

spide-ed
04-01-2005, 04:33 PM
I can just imagine him in a few years entertaining delusions of being Jesus, just like Jacko.

Ace
04-01-2005, 07:51 PM
jerks, if u dont like shyamalan then dont come into this thread
i like ALL of his movies
and this one should be interesting

someone tried to already guess the twist by saying that bryce dallas howards character isnt in giamattis pool, but hes in her pool of air

it doesnt really make any sense so i dont think it will be that

looking forward to July 21 2006

redman
04-01-2005, 08:04 PM
i have complete faith in m.night.

the reason i thought the village did poorly was that it was marketed terribly and consequently, people had differing expectations.

i watched it on dvd after hearing some mixed reviews and thought the film was great. good acting, themes and script.

If Giamatti and Bryce Howard have signed on, i can't see how m.night's new could possibly be a 'punch to the kidneys'.

sec127
04-01-2005, 08:58 PM
I'll see it no matter what because I think he is a very skilled director but does need to expand his horizions. I do love Bryce Dallas Howard she was brillent in THE VILLAGE and I actually think that all his films are amazing, yes including SIGNS which was very symbolic and deep even though most people laugh in my face when I say that, I also thought that UNBREAKABLE was neat and of course THE SIXTH SENSE was brillent. SO basically I will see anything he dishes out. I hope he does change the title LADY IN THE WATER is quite dumb I might say. But overall he really needs to look into something else than thrillers with twist endings...

terabyte25
04-01-2005, 11:27 PM
someone tried to already guess the twist by saying that bryce dallas howards character isnt in giamattis pool, but hes in her pool of air

it doesnt really make any sense so i dont think it will be that

looking forward to July 21 2006

Interesting theory. Maybe it would make more sense to say that she's not in his pool of water, she's visiting *his* bubble of air underwater...? And he's actually the captive?

rosncranz
04-02-2005, 12:52 AM
I can just imagine him in a few years entertaining delusions of being Jesus, just like Jacko.


Do humanity a favor and never ever speak, type or write ever ever again.

EnderDeschain
04-02-2005, 01:35 AM
Wow. I had no idea so many folks disliked Shyamalan in general, and The Village in particular. I guess I'm out of touch that way. Personally I've liked all of his movies, and I agree with Droidguy on a lot of points (such as Unbreakable easily being his best), but I disagree about his last two flicks. I think every one of them has an underlying theme, but not really a theme, sort of a feeling. The Sixth Sense was about loneliness and isolation, Unbreakable about strength, Signs was about faith, and The Village about fear and courage. That's what makes his movies good, is that they're all about something in a way that most movies aren't. At least that's what I take from them. As long as he keeps that up, I have faith that he'll deliver. Even in a movie featuring a sea nymph in someone's swimming pool.

Fanible
04-02-2005, 02:30 AM
Are you kidding me? A movie about a sea nymph?? Geez... what is it, a remake of "Splash"? No no...

M.Night is a good director, but he needs to think more outside the box than he has been so far. He's pigeon-holing himself into suspense/horror-ish movies, and it's been interesting so far, but it's getting stale, despite the "surprise endings".


You can tell this will be a suspense/horror from that description? Umm... ok.

And I didn't think Unbreakable was much of a suspense, nor very thrilling.

spide-ed
04-02-2005, 05:08 AM
Do humanity a favor and never ever speak, type or write ever ever again.

and you do humanity a favour by growning a sense of humour dude. ;)

Gomamon
04-02-2005, 09:45 AM
It looks interesting.

THEMEEK
04-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Well we don't know all the details so we prob shouldn't assume... :|

Superman
04-04-2005, 01:57 AM
I think "Unbreakable" had some suspense in it, I mean look at the situation Willis was in and some crazy guy telling him he's The One... I mean some real life hero. It had suspense, but in a different way.

Necross
04-04-2005, 07:58 AM
Edit, not gonna get dragged down to the level of idiots.

FilmJerk
04-04-2005, 08:27 AM
I loved Unbreakable. Awesome movie. The Sixth Sense and Signs were good, but The Village just sucked. The story was dumb, and then.....yeah it as just dumb

pixiness
04-04-2005, 10:37 AM
It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that continue to have this "M Night's work is on the decline" argument.

The true character of an M.Night film lies in its subtleties; not in its ability to surprise you with a twist ending or a suspenseful/scary plot. Sixth Sense, while it truly caught most of us off guard, was not an incredible piece of work for the ending. It was all the countless subtle nuances of inches between fingertips near a dinner check, that played on human nature to fill in the blanks. When you go back and watch the sixth sense on repeated watchings you start to appreciate these tiny details that really make the movie.

The same can be said for Unbreakable - it just happens that a lot of comic afficianados picked up on the effort to adhere to classic comic storytelling. Again, when you rewatch the film and you make it a point to look for these classic set-ups between good and evil, right and wrong, hero and villain, they're all over the place and right beneath your nose.

It extends into Signs. And this time - M Night made it easier to pick up the subtleties - he TELLS you what the movie's really about half way through when Merrill and Graham are on the couch in the middle of the night. "Are you one of those people that believes in signs? or are we truly on our own to decide our own destiny?" Aliens are a completely secondary part of the story. And for those that scoff at a "poor wrap-up" because of a swing-away bit and all that - go back and watch the movie again - and this time - look at how every single part of the movie falls exactly into place to allow future things to happen. Had the aliens not been on the roof, the cop would have never been at the house and Morgan wouldn't have become facinated with a walkie talkie. If Morgan hadn't been facinated with a walkie talkie, he wouldn't have taken out a baby monitor. If the family hadn't heard noises on the baby monitor, they wouldn't have thought anything was weird when the vet (played by m. night) called and hung up. Graham would have never investigated and found the alien in the pantry. And it goes even further. If mom hadn't been hit by a car, maybe they would have been more strict about getting beau to drink her water - or at the very least, mom might have been picking up glasses instead of leaving them all around the house. If she hadn't died, would they have even prepared the way they did? Probably not - graham would have still had faith in god protecting them Again - the movie wasn't meant to "wow" you with a twist, it was meant to draw you in with details.

And for me, the best example of this is The Village. He makes it easy for you to decide to fill in the details for yourself, even though he leaves you clues all along the way as to what's really happening. He leaves your mind filling in the assumptions about what's lurking in the shadows, or passing just out of your peripheralvision. And then he takes it one step further to challenge you to abandon that assumption in the face of proof that your original perceptions were incorrect. Ivy being chased in the woods must face a creature she knows is not real with the knowledge that it's really just a wolf in sheep's clothing Again - you have to look for the subtleties about what is fear really made of? What makes fear exist? What is control based on? etc. Again, when you go back and watch this movie a second, third or fourth time, you're able to step back from your original expectations for what you thought the story should have been and appreciate it for the story M. night was trying to get you to understand.

In my opinion, he's only gotten better and better at perfecting the nuances of his craft. Not worse. I feel confident that this new endeavor will be another leap forward as well.

Fanible
04-04-2005, 12:34 PM
What Pixi said.

Everyone was expecting The Village to be some scary horror flick apparently, with monsters galore. I thought The Village was perfect the way it was, and a facinating film. I liked majority of the performances from the actors, except for Ivy's blindness, which I almost had no clue she was blind when I first started watching the movie.

Necross
04-04-2005, 01:27 PM
What Pixi said.

Everyone was expecting The Village to be some scary horror flick apparently, with monsters galore. I thought The Village was perfect the way it was, and a facinating film. I liked majority of the performances from the actors, except for Ivy's blindness, which I almost had no clue she was blind when I first started watching the movie.

lol thats why it was great. Like all my friend's and me didn't know she was blind at first, but thats why I loved it, the Village rocked. I loved that it was a Love Story with thriller elements and not the other way around, was a change of pace and was great.

kel thuzad
04-04-2005, 02:19 PM
It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that continue to have this "M Night's work is on the decline" argument.

The true character of an M.Night film lies in its subtleties; not in its ability to surprise you with a twist ending or a suspenseful/scary plot. Sixth Sense, while it truly caught most of us off guard, was not an incredible piece of work for the ending. It was all the countless subtle nuances of inches between fingertips near a dinner check, that played on human nature to fill in the blanks. When you go back and watch the sixth sense on repeated watchings you start to appreciate these tiny details that really make the movie.

The same can be said for Unbreakable - it just happens that a lot of comic afficianados picked up on the effort to adhere to classic comic storytelling. Again, when you rewatch the film and you make it a point to look for these classic set-ups between good and evil, right and wrong, hero and villain, they're all over the place and right beneath your nose.

It extends into Signs. And this time - M Night made it easier to pick up the subtleties - he TELLS you what the movie's really about half way through when Merrill and Graham are on the couch in the middle of the night. "Are you one of those people that believes in signs? or are we truly on our own to decide our own destiny?" Aliens are a completely secondary part of the story. And for those that scoff at a "poor wrap-up" because of a swing-away bit and all that - go back and watch the movie again - and this time - look at how every single part of the movie falls exactly into place to allow future things to happen. Had the aliens not been on the roof, the cop would have never been at the house and Morgan wouldn't have become facinated with a walkie talkie. If Morgan hadn't been facinated with a walkie talkie, he wouldn't have taken out a baby monitor. If the family hadn't heard noises on the baby monitor, they wouldn't have thought anything was weird when the vet (played by m. night) called and hung up. Graham would have never investigated and found the alien in the pantry. And it goes even further. If mom hadn't been hit by a car, maybe they would have been more strict about getting beau to drink her water - or at the very least, mom might have been picking up glasses instead of leaving them all around the house. If she hadn't died, would they have even prepared the way they did? Probably not - graham would have still had faith in god protecting them Again - the movie wasn't meant to "wow" you with a twist, it was meant to draw you in with details.

And for me, the best example of this is The Village. He makes it easy for you to decide to fill in the details for yourself, even though he leaves you clues all along the way as to what's really happening. He leaves your mind filling in the assumptions about what's lurking in the shadows, or passing just out of your peripheralvision. And then he takes it one step further to challenge you to abandon that assumption in the face of proof that your original perceptions were incorrect. Ivy being chased in the woods must face a creature she knows is not real with the knowledge that it's really just a wolf in sheep's clothing Again - you have to look for the subtleties about what is fear really made of? What makes fear exist? What is control based on? etc. Again, when you go back and watch this movie a second, third or fourth time, you're able to step back from your original expectations for what you thought the story should have been and appreciate it for the story M. night was trying to get you to understand.

In my opinion, he's only gotten better and better at perfecting the nuances of his craft. Not worse. I feel confident that this new endeavor will be another leap forward as well.
VERY WELL SAID!
I didnt pay attention to spoilers before The Village came out and only thing ive seen from the movie, were trailers. So in cinema I naturally had to make 180degree turn on what to expect from the film.
I aint gonna repeat what pixi said, I might just add, that I personally take Village as simple love story more than anything else.

Ace
04-04-2005, 06:41 PM
It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that continue to have this "M Night's work is on the decline" argument.

The true character of an M.Night film lies in its subtleties; not in its ability to surprise you with a twist ending or a suspenseful/scary plot. Sixth Sense, while it truly caught most of us off guard, was not an incredible piece of work for the ending. It was all the countless subtle nuances of inches between fingertips near a dinner check, that played on human nature to fill in the blanks. When you go back and watch the sixth sense on repeated watchings you start to appreciate these tiny details that really make the movie.

The same can be said for Unbreakable - it just happens that a lot of comic afficianados picked up on the effort to adhere to classic comic storytelling. Again, when you rewatch the film and you make it a point to look for these classic set-ups between good and evil, right and wrong, hero and villain, they're all over the place and right beneath your nose.

It extends into Signs. And this time - M Night made it easier to pick up the subtleties - he TELLS you what the movie's really about half way through when Merrill and Graham are on the couch in the middle of the night. "Are you one of those people that believes in signs? or are we truly on our own to decide our own destiny?" Aliens are a completely secondary part of the story. And for those that scoff at a "poor wrap-up" because of a swing-away bit and all that - go back and watch the movie again - and this time - look at how every single part of the movie falls exactly into place to allow future things to happen. Had the aliens not been on the roof, the cop would have never been at the house and Morgan wouldn't have become facinated with a walkie talkie. If Morgan hadn't been facinated with a walkie talkie, he wouldn't have taken out a baby monitor. If the family hadn't heard noises on the baby monitor, they wouldn't have thought anything was weird when the vet (played by m. night) called and hung up. Graham would have never investigated and found the alien in the pantry. And it goes even further. If mom hadn't been hit by a car, maybe they would have been more strict about getting beau to drink her water - or at the very least, mom might have been picking up glasses instead of leaving them all around the house. If she hadn't died, would they have even prepared the way they did? Probably not - graham would have still had faith in god protecting them Again - the movie wasn't meant to "wow" you with a twist, it was meant to draw you in with details.

And for me, the best example of this is The Village. He makes it easy for you to decide to fill in the details for yourself, even though he leaves you clues all along the way as to what's really happening. He leaves your mind filling in the assumptions about what's lurking in the shadows, or passing just out of your peripheralvision. And then he takes it one step further to challenge you to abandon that assumption in the face of proof that your original perceptions were incorrect. Ivy being chased in the woods must face a creature she knows is not real with the knowledge that it's really just a wolf in sheep's clothing Again - you have to look for the subtleties about what is fear really made of? What makes fear exist? What is control based on? etc. Again, when you go back and watch this movie a second, third or fourth time, you're able to step back from your original expectations for what you thought the story should have been and appreciate it for the story M. night was trying to get you to understand.

In my opinion, he's only gotten better and better at perfecting the nuances of his craft. Not worse. I feel confident that this new endeavor will be another leap forward as well.

niiiiiiiiice
anyone who hated the village sucks

Fanible
04-04-2005, 07:56 PM
lol thats why it was great. Like all my friend's and me didn't know she was blind at first, but thats why I loved it, the Village rocked. I loved that it was a Love Story with thriller elements and not the other way around, was a change of pace and was great.

I'm not sure why not knowing she was blind made it great. I just didn't find her acting to be very good. There's no reason to not know she is. Blind people don't fixate on one point right in front of them at all times. You could tell she was looking at stuff and trying to not look at the people she was having to co-act with, and sometimes she would seem like she was looking towards the person, just simply, and avidly avoiding eye contact. It's the one gripe I had about the film.

She did fine at acting in general, but I didn't find her very good at being a 'blind' person. You're not suppose to wonder whether or not someone is blind. It's suppose to be obvious, as it is with most blind people (save for maybe when they're sitting down and wearing sunglasses).

Boro
04-04-2005, 08:36 PM
sounds interesting to say the least.

Superman
04-04-2005, 10:39 PM
I don't think "The Village" was terrible. I think I fell for the hype, but after watching it again on rental, it really felt like it was missing something. I don't think he's on a decline, I just think he could've improved it a bit.

DieselPower
04-04-2005, 10:59 PM
pixiness...well said about M. Nights work. I'm a big fan of his movies.
Regarding Signs...I thought everyone knew that the title of the movie has nothing to do with engrave of signs on the wheat fields. With the way you explained it, I couldn’t have said it better. ;)

And near ending, that's when the story hits a home run...the brother a Minor League record holder...'swing away', the glasses of water that were all over the living room, Mel Gibsons son's breathing stopped because of asthma and so no poison was inhaled. And lastly Mel believes that there is a God looking after him. Great movie.

rosncranz
04-05-2005, 01:14 AM
All hail the genious of Pixi. I totally agree with everything you said Pixi, Superman just because of one bad movie he is on the decline? If that's the case Tarantino has been on the decline since Pulp Fiction. People make movies that the majority doesnt like, it doesnt mean there on the decline, it just means it's not what people expected, or they made A bad movie, it doesnt mean that thats all they are going to do now.

And, I now have a crush on Pixi.

Superman
04-05-2005, 10:54 PM
All hail the genious of Pixi. I totally agree with everything you said Pixi, Superman just because of one bad movie he is on the decline? If that's the case Tarantino has been on the decline since Pulp Fiction. People make movies that the majority doesnt like, it doesnt mean there on the decline, it just means it's not what people expected, or they made A bad movie, it doesnt mean that thats all they are going to do now.

And, I now have a crush on Pixi.

I didn't say his career was on the decline. I just said that "The Village" seemed like it had more potential. Read carefully next time.

Cloud Buster
04-06-2005, 12:51 AM
I think Shaymalan is a bit hit-or-miss. Sixth Sense, which made him famous, is an obvious hit. Unbreakable, miss. Signs, hit. The Village, miss.

To be fair, I can't really say that "The Village" was a miss or a hit since I didn't see it, and I have no plans to. I read the spoilers about it and was so disappointed by them I never wanted to see the film. Too bad, because I hear the suspense elements to the film were carried out well. Unfortunately, I don't think I'd be able to enjoy it.

Shaymalan has a LOT of potential, but he needs to stop focusing on surprise endings. There's only so much you can do before it gets ridiculous. Okay, none of us knew in "The Sixth Sense" that Bruce Willis was dead. You got us. Bravo, we loved it.

But Signs, for example, while an excellent movie, doesn't have a "shocking" ending. It tries to be shocking, but fails to deliver in that aspect. I still love the ending though, it just wasn't a terrible surprise. Furthermore, his attempts at surprising the audience resulted in one of the biggest plot holes in recent film history - the aliens' vulnerability to water. Why does an advanced alien race so vulnerable to water invade a planet that is 70% made up of that substance?

Anyway, I think Shaymalan still deserves a fair chance for his next film. I just hope he stops focusing so much on trying to surprise us, and uses his talents to make an all around great film.

Ewok Droppings
04-06-2005, 01:07 AM
I wanted to punch myself for wasting money after I saw the Village. This movie sounds even worse. If he likes folk-lore type stuff, why doesn't he do a movie on bigfoot or some other myth that is kind of out there instead of something in your swimming pool. How lame sounding.

poeman
04-06-2005, 01:09 AM
u guys are nuts... this movie will be fantastic... i think he knows what hes doing, and life of pi would have been great but i think hes waiting for the right time with that movie.
NOW he has paul giamitti that man is like man on fire , everythng he does is great

Fanible
04-06-2005, 01:12 AM
I think the studio wants to get Life of Pi up and going. So if he turns it down now, there's a good chance it will end up being picked up by someone else.

poeman
04-06-2005, 01:15 AM
I think the studio wants to get Life of Pi up and going. So if he turns it down now, there's a good chance it will end up being picked up by someone else.

argh damn that will suck if anyone other then m night does that film cause he def has said he can make it work for he is also from that culture... now that book is one adaptation i really wanna see... talk about themes, thats one great book

rosncranz
04-06-2005, 01:35 AM
I didn't say his career was on the decline. I just said that "The Village" seemed like it had more potential. Read carefully next time.


write more carefully next time ;)

Brock Landers
04-06-2005, 01:37 AM
write more carefully next time ;)

The wit of rosncranz is so apparent in this gem. ;)

rosncranz
04-06-2005, 01:56 AM
The wit of rosncranz is so apparent in this gem. ;)

as is brocks horrible taste in music in his avatar;)

Brock Landers
04-06-2005, 02:14 AM
as is brocks horrible taste in music in his avatar;)

If you really think so, bizznotch. BRING IT, YO. Judging my advanced taste by one band, you must be trippin.....yo. ;)




I'm a Beatles fan myself.

rosncranz
04-06-2005, 02:20 AM
If you really think so, bizznotch. BRING IT, YO. Judging my advanced taste by one band, you must be trippin.....yo. ;)




I'm a Beatles fan myself.

ai, i am both a fan of weezer and the beatles. i was just by some of the weezer guys house, 'twas mighty fine.

on a side and pointless note: the whole ;) smilie idea cracks me up. say your friend finds you sleeping with his girlfriend, he's about to kill you and...just wink at him and its all good.

Brock Landers
04-06-2005, 02:22 AM
ai, i am both a fan of weezer and the beatles. i was just by some of the weezer guys house, 'twas mighty fine.

on a side and pointless note: the whole ;) smilie idea cracks me up. say your friend finds you sleeping with his girlfriend, he's about to kill you and...just wink at him and its all good.

I just blew up your house.






















;)

rosncranz
04-06-2005, 01:55 PM
I just blew up your house.



;)

oh no probelm, its cool!

carnage4u
04-06-2005, 02:14 PM
hmm.. thread rambling off into corner.


Anyway, i still have great faith in the director and the movie.
I have enjoyed all 4 of the movies he made so far and really find him to be able to make a great story that stays true to itself.

Superman
04-06-2005, 11:25 PM
write more carefully next time ;)

Hehe, I'll go fetch your reading glasses! ;)

Superman
04-06-2005, 11:26 PM
The wit of rosncranz is so apparent in this gem. ;)

His gem eh? Maybe I should kick him in the family gems! Hahahaha! J/k. ;) Oh man I'm so alone.... J/k. :D

rosncranz
04-07-2005, 03:33 AM
His gem eh? Maybe I should kick him in the family gems! Hahahaha! J/k. ;) Oh man I'm so alone.... J/k. :D

haha, nice :D

InSaNe M!K3
04-07-2005, 02:58 PM
well it doesnt sound like a punch to the kidneys because it wont cause me to piss blood for a while, but it doesnt sound interestine at all

rosncranz
04-08-2005, 02:41 AM
if tarahackntino was directing, you *****es would be saying how awesome it sounds. i hate you all... ;)

iv3rdawG
04-08-2005, 08:46 AM
the aliens' vulnerability to water. Why does an advanced alien race so vulnerable to water invade a planet that is 70% made up of that substance?
rofl :funny:

iv3rdawG
04-08-2005, 08:46 AM
if tarahackntino was directing, you *****es would be saying how awesome it sounds. i hate you all... ;)
whos tarahackntino???

Fanible
04-08-2005, 08:48 AM
the aliens' vulnerability to water. Why does an advanced alien race so vulnerable to water invade a planet that is 70% made up of that substance?

That and why in the world does an advanced race, who's vulnerable to water invadeing a planet with 70% of it, not invent or wear suits that could protect them from it. Water protection isn't that difficult to make. :rolleyes:

On that subject though, the dude's were naked and we didn't once see any form of weapons, except the gas that that guy used. I'm sorry, but we would of kicked their lilly asses with our arsenals alone on their bare butts, let alone using water guns to boot, if they couldn't even so much as take down a normal WOODEN DOOR.

Superman
04-08-2005, 09:41 PM
if tarahackntino was directing, you *****es would be saying how awesome it sounds. i hate you all... ;)

Well see the storyline would still seem a little iffy to me, but man the possibility that the sea creature thing would slice the landlord's ear off or bite his nose off would be a high probability! ;)

rosncranz
04-09-2005, 01:54 AM
Well see the storyline would still seem a little iffy to me, but man the possibility that the sea creature thing would slice the landlord's ear off or bite his nose off would be a high probability! ;)
haha, fair enough, but dont forget theres also the possibility that the sea nymph is actually dead, a superhero, an alien, or a person just trying to maintain civilization dressed as a sea nymph.

FVD
04-10-2005, 12:44 AM
Well funny enough I haven't seen the Village yet and I enjoyed the Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. Signs was good too but nowhere near as great as Unbreakable.

And I still have no idea what The Village is about so perhaps I'll see it tonight should the time arise.

Superman
04-13-2005, 09:59 PM
haha, fair enough, but dont forget theres also the possibility that the sea nymph is actually dead, a superhero, an alien, or a person just trying to maintain civilization dressed as a sea nymph.

Or know where Jimmy Hoffa is. Or where the beef really is.

Saxy
04-13-2005, 11:42 PM
I, for one, really enjoyed The Villiage. This new plot seems kinda hoaky, but I'll definitely see it. You never know. ^_^

rosncranz
04-14-2005, 01:08 AM
i am a writer, and one thing i often do is take a cheesy or off the wall idea and try to write it as though it is real or a character piece, and they usually turn out really well. i bet/hope this is the same kinda thing.

kel thuzad
04-14-2005, 04:26 AM
i am a writer, and one thing i often do is take a cheesy or off the wall idea and try to write it as though it is real or a character piece, and they usually turn out really well. i bet/hope this is the same kinda thing.
Yeah, me too...
Although i dont do it the way you do. The primal ideas may seem really absurd (and they do) until they are fully executed to see the purpose of the whole thing...

todd philip
04-15-2005, 01:42 AM
the village was great i thought!

Superman
05-16-2005, 07:57 PM
Ohhh... resurrection, thanks droidguy!

kurt wagner
01-12-2006, 08:22 PM
doesn't matter if the movie sucks or not... real artists make films because they want to... not to please an audience... which is secondary to telling the story they want to tell. Besides, this is a bedtime story for his children.... why would he care if it pleases all those people out to see him fail and continuously comparing his previous films... and trying to guess the ending then afterwards talking about how the director needs to step away from the "twist ending" type of stories. That's part of the reason why many dislike the village... all because they're too busy trying to figure out the twist instead of just following the story.

kurt wagner
01-12-2006, 08:26 PM
also the opinions expressed here are based just on a teaser... not even a trailer. So how accurate can that be anyway... King kong had an awesome trailer, but the movie got mixed reviews

Brenzi51
01-12-2006, 11:58 PM
KK had a great trailer and great reviews..so....

popcopy
01-13-2006, 02:44 PM
also the opinions expressed here are based just on a teaser... not even a trailer. So how accurate can that be anyway... King kong had an awesome trailer, but the movie got mixed reviews

I thought the King Kong trailer BLEW (btw)

Cloud Buster
01-25-2006, 05:55 PM
The very first, very spoilerific review of "LADY IN THE WATER" is now on AICN:

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22290

Based on that read, it's a bed time story all right. It will put us all right to sleep.

Though it's possible the film's pacing will be improved a lot over the coming months, if it's as far off base as that reviewer says, then there isn't much that can save it.

sshuttari
01-25-2006, 11:45 PM
well the review is down, but im going to wait til summer to see if this movie is worth seeing or not. right now they were just in the test screening so it doesnt mean much. except they need to fix the problems thats all.

Necross
01-26-2006, 02:28 AM
Stuff like that always just sounds like people who got pissed at one movie and just have this odd need to destroy and flame anything else the person makes just to make themselves feel better. It wasn't even test screened yet for god's sake.

whitey137
01-26-2006, 01:49 PM
there are alot of people that hate M Night, that are just going to go into his movies with a attitude that the movie will suck no matter what, aint it cool news is one of those sites kinda why I stopped going to their site.

iv3rdawG
05-09-2006, 03:57 PM
New tralier:

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-300-p.1428610-167308,wmv-700-p.1428611-167308,wmv-56-p.1428608-167308,wmv-100-p.1428609-167308,wmv-28-p.1428608-167308&id=1808665078&f=1808665078&mspid=1809352137&type=t

Tornado
05-09-2006, 04:01 PM
I like the new trailer quite a bit. It doesn't seem much like a "fairy tale" anymore though, which is a good in my opinion. I'll see it because I'm a fan of M. Night, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Wolverine
05-09-2006, 04:03 PM
I actually think this trailer looked cool. I will give it a chance.

Brenzi51
05-09-2006, 04:08 PM
I thought that this was going to be a soft fairytale. The teaser certainly came across that way, but the trailer makes you think that it is certainly going to be a darker tale like most of Night's work...It looks pretty good imo...

Fanible
05-09-2006, 05:13 PM
I guess I'll have to wait till there's a downloadable version. For some reason lately streaming media hasn't been working for me.

FilmJerk
05-09-2006, 06:58 PM
bleh looks dumb

WuTical
05-09-2006, 07:04 PM
just watched the new trailer...doesnt look very good

Fanible
05-09-2006, 07:23 PM
I don't really get what it's all about, but it looks pretty interesting to me.

Citizen Kane
05-09-2006, 10:42 PM
Man, I did not like that trailer. Blech.

krazy_marco74
05-10-2006, 01:37 AM
I was surprised to see it was PG-13 for some frightening sequences because I thought this was going to be a fairy tale...judging from the trailer..not anymore and it looks no different from any other of his movies...perhaps another big twist?

darthspielberg
05-10-2006, 03:52 AM
i am excited to see the film, as i have enjoyed all of his work (I am a huge vocal support for the Villiage) but the trailer looks like they are at it again, marketing his films all wrong. i guess i will have to see.

clrb15
05-10-2006, 09:43 AM
i for one loved all of Shymalan's films even The Village (which i own on DVD)...and i am interested in seeing Lady in the Water...the teaser was great with the Josh Groban music...but watching the theatrical trailer it was a compeltely different tone from the teaser...but im still interested. :)

Lady in the Water (theatrical)
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=trailer&id=1808665078&intl=us

DVDAVE
05-10-2006, 10:32 AM
Well i'm looking forward to this movie as well. I do like all of his movies( The Village is the one I like less) it was ok but nothing like his previous work. Plus the reason why I like his films he has shot each film only a matter of minutes from my house. This one he shot litteraly right down the street from me. I visited the set and yes I even had a chance to meet Mr. Night pretty cool guy. Didn't meet any of the other cast though :( . But anyway back on the subject at hand I think the movie sounds original and thats always a plus. So heck yeah i'm seeing this movie sounds good to me. :)

Hanzo-san
05-10-2006, 10:51 AM
I also have liked all of his movies, Signs a little less than the others. The thing about The Village though was that it was advertised as a Sixth Sense and people went into it expecting that. They of course got something completely different. Also, the ending to the movie was somehow leaked before it premiered and that with the misleading advertising probably is what caused the movie to get panned by so many people. However, I think it was a great movie and can't for this new one.

krazy_marco74
05-10-2006, 05:45 PM
I like how Shymalan has tricked the audience to thinking it is a family movie but it is actually most likely a nightmare to kids.

hammerhedd11
05-10-2006, 09:34 PM
I'm most certainly checking this out.

PsYkOoOoO
05-10-2006, 10:09 PM
i for one loved all of Shymalan's films even The Village (which i own on DVD)...and i am interested in seeing Lady in the Water...the teaser was great with the Josh Groban music...but watching the theatrical trailer it was a compeltely different tone from the teaser...but im still interested. :)

Lady in the Water (theatrical)
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=trailer&id=1808665078&intl=us

At least the monsters seem to be real this time.

Fanible
05-11-2006, 02:50 AM
At least the monsters seem to be real this time.

That's what interests me I think more. Although I really enjoyed The Village, I was also looking forward to a unique monster movie, which would of been a good addition to the line up, making it Ghosts, Superheroes, Aliens, Monsters. Perhaps it still is, and the next chapter is "Fairy Tales", or perhaps he was just wanting a new way to trick and twist a story, getting people to expect and think one thing, but turn it around, which frankly is why I enjoyed it, because I saw it from that point of view and enjoyed it for that reason.

I like it switching back to the supernatural now though. I will definitly see this in the theatres probably.

PsYkOoOoO
05-11-2006, 03:04 AM
That's what interests me I think more. Although I really enjoyed The Village, I was also looking forward to a unique monster movie, which would of been a good addition to the line up, making it Ghosts, Superheroes, Aliens, Monsters. Perhaps it still is, and the next chapter is "Fairy Tales", or perhaps he was just wanting a new way to trick and twist a story, getting people to expect and think one thing, but turn it around, which frankly is why I enjoyed it, because I saw it from that point of view and enjoyed it for that reason.

I like it switching back to the supernatural now though. I will definitly see this in the theatres probably.

I was quite disappointed with the fact that the monsters werent actually real in The Village.As much as i love the fact that Night successfully decieved us in believing that the monsters were real,i hate the fact that us,alongside the villagers,were played like idiots all throughout the film.

And that's what Night wants you to think those werewolf things are in the trailer are anyway,supernatural stuff.Those might turn out to be bored teenagers next door,who dug a hole that led all the way to the bottom of the swimming pool.

Fanible
05-11-2006, 03:13 AM
I seriously doubt he's going to deceive and make a twist on us in the exact same way (which would be that). Although your suggestion is just utterly silly and ludacris.

The fact that's been calling it a "fairy tale" from the get go, also pretty much says to me that he's turning it to just that. And this seems more like a true fairy tale type anyway, as most original stories as such tend to be scary and creepy.

PsYkOoOoO
05-11-2006, 03:16 AM
Im just saying that it's probably not as innocent as it seems,that's all.

Fanible
05-11-2006, 03:18 AM
Im just saying that it's probably not as innocent as it seems,that's all.

I have no idea what you mean. What, suddenly because he pulled such a major turn-around twist in the Village, he's going to do that with all his other films to come? Give me a break.

Sock-Man
05-11-2006, 03:43 AM
I thought it looked alright. I like the idea alot, and will probably see it.

And I hope the monsters and things are real. There's a chance he might pull a 'village' on us.. but the weird elements in all the others were legit, so there's no reason to assume at all.

PsYkOoOoO
05-11-2006, 04:04 AM
A little strange how the colour of her hair changed though.

That's the blind girl from The Village as well...right?

Boro
05-11-2006, 10:35 PM
interesting trailer. i'll be seeing this when it comes out.

Sable
05-12-2006, 01:25 PM
I like all of M. Night's movies. They're all so unique and this one seems equally interesting as his others. Signs was a letdown though. It was so overhyped and people were raving about how scary it is. I thought it was.. slightly above mediocre. His others were highly entertaining though. I'm really looking forward to this one.

EthanEverett
05-12-2006, 05:44 PM
I love the trailer.

I will definitely see this movie.

He says there's no twist but I just don't believe him.

But im not getting my hopes up for a twist, I just need to see an actual GOOD thrilling movie.

;)

Brenzi51
05-12-2006, 06:23 PM
I hope that he is not lying when he says that there is no twist. I would just like to watch one of his movies without a twist...

quiksilver022
05-12-2006, 07:28 PM
Even though I thought 'The Village' was a total disappointment, I have faith in M. Night this time. Trailer looks better than 90% of the other garbage Hollywood is spewing out these days. It's an original premise, and has a good cast.

quiksilver022
05-12-2006, 07:30 PM
I hope that he is not lying when he says that there is no twist. I would just like to watch one of his movies without a twist...
Damn.. I want a twist.

Fanible
05-12-2006, 09:57 PM
Yeah, that's too bad. I liked looking forward to see what kind of twist he would use. Oh well.

khushi218
05-30-2006, 01:26 AM
Im looking forward to this movie. His movies Signs and Unbreakable were really good and Village wasn't that bad either. He has a way of bringing twists and original ideas that can't really be found in today's cinema...he thinks outside of the box...and this movie looks reallyyy different...so I'm definitely there...!

sshuttari
05-30-2006, 08:41 AM
I saw the trailer with The Da Vinci Code, i loved it looks so cool that the lady in the water has to save everyone from the others, i think it will turn out very good.

John G
06-02-2006, 01:05 PM
Are you kidding me? A movie about a sea nymph?? Geez... what is it, a remake of "Splash"? No no...

M.Night is a good director, but he needs to think more outside the box than he has been so far. He's pigeon-holing himself into suspense/horror-ish movies, and it's been interesting so far, but it's getting stale, despite the "surprise endings". He likes things dark, and using the fear of the unknown. I would like to see him doing something a bit more realistic and dramatic.

what he needs to do is take the reigns in terms of how his films are advertised. the village wasnt a horror picture nor did he mean it to be, yet it was advertised as one because thats what he is known for. i have a feeling the same mistake is being made here, though i may be wrong, this film has an 80s fantasy feel to it (like cats eye or something like that) but mabye it will be great. the point is stop beng so hard on the man, its not like he's Michael Bay, oops.....

teewee1432
06-02-2006, 06:57 PM
I too like all his films and I really want to see this. I wasn't impressed with the teaser trailer, but the second trailer really sold me on this movie.

khushi218
06-04-2006, 09:15 PM
Yea i think this should turn out to be really goodd...I dont think this is meant to be a horror flick but actually more of a thriller(??)...altho it deals with bed time stories...its meant to be more adult oriented...eitherway this movie should do good...but we'll find out more once it releases..

Laterose
06-12-2006, 11:48 AM
it looks really intriguing just becaise it doesnt look all that scary at first...which makes it even more creepy lol ill prolly end up seeing it

Glordreen
06-12-2006, 12:36 PM
Ill see it, Ive liked every Night movie except for The Village. So Ill have some hopes for this.

iv3rdawG
06-13-2006, 07:10 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316017345/104-9310394-7662348

Interview with Shyamalan about his original Bedtime Story, Lady in the Water. It's pretty interesting.

khushi218
06-20-2006, 10:34 PM
That’s interesting, and yea because it doesn’t look scary in the previews, that makes it seem more creepy lol…when is the release date of the movie again??

SnoBorderZero
06-21-2006, 01:07 AM
I had originally thought he wasn't going to make another horror film after The Village for awhile and was going to pursue films such as The Life of Pi to show Indian culture. Guess not. I'm a big fan (though nothing can match The Sixth Sense) and hopefully he gets this one right.

Fanible
06-21-2006, 02:06 AM
I had originally thought he wasn't going to make another horror film after The Village for awhile and was going to pursue films such as The Life of Pi to show Indian culture. Guess not. I'm a big fan (though nothing can match The Sixth Sense) and hopefully he gets this one right.

The Village wasn't a horror film. I don't think Lady in Water is suppose to be either. No one knows exactly what it's going to be quite yet, other than a fantasy fairly tale, and I think that's the point.

kel thuzad
06-21-2006, 06:47 AM
The Village wasn't a horror film. I don't think Lady in Water is suppose to be either. No one knows exactly what it's going to be quite yet, other than a fantasy fairly tale, and I think that's the point.
Yep... I think thats the main reason why so much ppl hated The Village. There STILL are many who even at this point dont get that Village is about something completely different than scaring the sh/t out of you.

Fanible
06-22-2006, 12:41 AM
Yep... I think thats the main reason why so much ppl hated The Village. There STILL are many who even at this point dont get that Village is about something completely different than scaring the sh/t out of you.

I guess I'm a sucker for an interesting twist. Most of the people I talked to didn't like the film for exactly the reason you said. They were going in expecting a monster movie (which is reasonable, considering he had first done ghosts, then superheroes, then aliens, and it was kinda advertised like that), but because it wasn't what they were expecting going in, the ended up not liking it.

I like his transitions. I liked that The Village turned out to be nothing supernatural at all, unlike his other movies. If it means I'm being kept on my toes watching his films, I'm all for it. Kudos to the story teller.

Furthermore, the horror/monster genre is still open for him to do if he so chooses it one day. And for now, I'm looking forward to seeing how his next film comes along, a fairy tale. Additionaly, if it really is creepy, then it'll be holding true to a more traditional fairy tale as well.

matthall
06-22-2006, 08:23 AM
I guess I'm a sucker for an interesting twist. Most of the people I talked to didn't like the film for exactly the reason you said. They were going in expecting a monster movie (which is reasonable, considering he had first done ghosts, then superheroes, then aliens, and it was kinda advertised like that), but because it wasn't what they were expecting going in, the ended up not liking it.

I like his transitions. I liked that The Village turned out to be nothing supernatural at all, unlike his other movies. If it means I'm being kept on my toes watching his films, I'm all for it. Kudos to the story teller.

Furthermore, the horror/monster genre is still open for him to do if he so chooses it one day. And for now, I'm looking forward to seeing how his next film comes along, a fairy tale. Additionaly, if it really is creepy, then it'll be holding true to a more traditional fairy tale as well.



I believe one day when people let go of there prconceived notions and watch The Village again they will see how masterful and great that movie is.

poeman
06-26-2006, 07:02 PM
Heres the first review of the film and its VERY POSITIVE

Joblo hails it one of M.Nights best
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=11828

SnoBorderZero
06-26-2006, 10:36 PM
I didn't hate The Village at all. I scored it an 8/10 and it was my most anticipated film of 2004.

I didn't mean horror exactly as being "scary" but atmosphereically creepy which you can't deny that Night is doing with The Village and Lady in the Water (at least the trailer is a good indicator of that). I just thought he said he was focusing on Indian culture films, so I was surprised to see him do a film like this.

Tornado
06-28-2006, 01:22 AM
I saw the final trailer a couple hours ago in front of Superman Returns (awesome, full review tomorrow), and I'll be honest with you: this film is not only looking better with each new trailer, but it's also looking less and less like a fairy tale (which is a good thing in my opinion). I'll definitely be there opening night. Granted, I would have been there opening night anyway because M. Night is 4/4 in my book thusfar, but it's now my #1 anticipated movie for the rest of the summer.

jordanov
06-28-2006, 01:25 AM
just found a new poster. it's flipping amazing.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPO/505159.jpg

Papa
06-28-2006, 06:46 AM
I saw the preview today. I'll give it a chance.... but I think I'll wait til it comes out on DVD..

matthall
06-28-2006, 07:47 PM
just found a new poster. it's flipping amazing.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPO/505159.jpg


Actually that poster has been out for quite awhile, but yeah it is amazing.

khushi218
06-30-2006, 02:14 AM
Yea it is...the website has some interesting downloads too. After watchin the trailor again, i'm definitely up for this movie...and the review doesn't sound bad either...!

SnoBorderZero
06-30-2006, 01:51 PM
I saw the final trailer a couple hours ago in front of Superman Returns (awesome, full review tomorrow), and I'll be honest with you: this film is not only looking better with each new trailer, but it's also looking less and less like a fairy tale (which is a good thing in my opinion). I'll definitely be there opening night. Granted, I would have been there opening night anyway because M. Night is 4/4 in my book thusfar, but it's now my #1 anticipated movie for the rest of the summer.
Agreed. I didn't like the 1st trailer because I really thought it was a fairy tale story for everyone, but just tried to be a bit creepy to say like "Hey, this is still an M. Night film". The recent trailers have been great and like The Village, I plan on seeing this one right when it comes out.

Sora Kahn
06-30-2006, 08:34 PM
This movie looks like it's going to be a cross between a fantasy movie and a horror movie.

Glordreen
07-01-2006, 01:49 AM
Saw the trailer....Im there opening day.

khushi218
07-21-2006, 01:29 AM
I saw another trailor on tv again, and got passes to see a screening...definitely excited! :)

Tornado
07-21-2006, 01:50 AM
I'm seeing this at a matinee later today. I can't wait!

khushi218
07-28-2006, 11:20 AM
This was definitely something different...but a good movie

The WupZter
07-28-2006, 11:33 AM
M. Night's first blockbuster unsuccessful at the box office. Hope he can rebound with his next.

matthall
07-28-2006, 11:41 AM
M. Night's first blockbuster unsuccessful at the box office. Hope he can rebound with his next.


Just because it didn't make a whole lot of bank doesn't mean he needs to rebound. It was a good film, I don't care if it made money or not.