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BWSword
03-08-2005, 08:04 PM
I was just wondering of what types of movies you guys like? Top theme.
Mine is Fantasy theme

neo5595
03-08-2005, 08:15 PM
Sci-fi action. We need more of that genra IMO.

BWSword
03-08-2005, 08:24 PM
You guys think the movies are getting better and better or just falling down?

sshuttari
03-08-2005, 08:34 PM
last year falling down... this year going upp

Brenzi51
03-08-2005, 08:35 PM
The problem with the movies today are that we keep re-making the same movie with the same formula...the reason why people like Tarantino are so well liked are because they are so different and look back to their predicessors and try to improve on what they have done. They try to take risks in making these movies that have the probability of being big flops.....also, on the subject of what I would like to see...I wouldn't mind seeing a recreation of the DIRTY DOZEN and the GREAT ESCAPE...I know that this kind of contradicts what I just said...but, i would like to see them done well for personal reasons.

Brenzi51
03-08-2005, 08:37 PM
sry for the poor grammar on that one

stunt double
03-08-2005, 08:43 PM
I'm the general movie goer myself. I'm pretty much into all genre, even the occassional chick flick. No shame in that so long the movie is well thought out.

Maiz Cascara
03-08-2005, 08:48 PM
Movies are definitely falling.....It was great when LOTR popped up, but now it's gone....And then epics are getting worse and not meeting the greatness of movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, and etc...(I have high hopes for Kingdom of Heaven tho) Sure Scorsese will direct great movies to come, but I doubt none will meet ones like Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, etc..

Also people's acting careers are going down like De Niro's and Pacino, and Nicholson, Travolta, etc..(It's not that they're turning into bad actors, its just that they're making horrible choices into what movies to be in) Sure we got people like Depp, Penn, Del Toro, Freeman, Mckellen, and others who are still doing wonderful jobs but we got people like Affleck, Reeves, and Bloom, not doing as good as they should be....We'll never see movies like The Godfather, or Apocalypse Now, or 2001: A Space Odyssey, or a Clockwork Orange, or Pulp Fiction, or Raging Bull, or Easy Rider, or One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest again, because modern cinema is all about money and everything has to make perfect sense for the viewer and we can't use our imagination....

I'm hoping on ppl like Martin Scorsese, Ridley Scott, Quentin Tarantino, Robert Rodriguez, Peter Jackson, Michael Mann, and others to keep bringing movies out that both entertain and intrigue their audiences for generations to come, just as the ones from the past..

Brenzi51
03-08-2005, 08:51 PM
Well done Maiz

Maiz Cascara
03-08-2005, 08:59 PM
Thanks..it came from my heart :) I feel bad for us new generation...(except we were damn lucky to see Lord of the Rings) Sure we'll see movies like a remake of War of the Worlds and a remake of King Kong, and Batman Begins, and other adapted materials....But we are in no way as lucky as the earlier generations...I can name tons and tons and tons of movies that they were blessed to see in theatres..

Also I wanna add that we also have to keep our eyes on Terry Gilliam, a truly great director of all genres...

stonefaced_1
03-08-2005, 09:23 PM
I like good movies. I don't have any preference to any particular genre.

Mat
03-08-2005, 10:54 PM
I like good movies. I don't have any preference to any particular genre.

Stop stealing my answers.

krushgroove19
03-08-2005, 11:01 PM
ninja and pirate porn. or both. any combination of ninjas, pirates, and porn will do just fine, actually.

EnderDeschain
03-08-2005, 11:17 PM
Thanks..it came from my heart :) I feel bad for us new generation...(except we were damn lucky to see Lord of the Rings) Sure we'll see movies like a remake of War of the Worlds and a remake of King Kong, and Batman Begins, and other adapted materials....But we are in no way as lucky as the earlier generations...

I disagree, my friend. I think it's really hard to see sh** when you're right in it, that's all. I'm sure folks from decades past, when they went to see Taxi Driver or Chinatown or what-have-you knew they were seeing a good movie, but they probably had no idea of just what said movie would become. There are a few recent things that might become just the kind of classic you're talking about (Fight Club and Memento come to mind). Sure there's a ton more crap for us to sift through now, but that's okay. If it weren't for the coal we wouldn't find the diamonds (or whatever). You know, you can't make an omelette and all that. I just think the spirit of pessimism that's sort of seeped into today's fandom is a bit unwarranted.

Doomsday
03-09-2005, 12:25 AM
I think movies as a whole are going downhill, and most of the blame lies with the audience. The technology that is used in movies is so advanced compared to before, so that is what general movie goers want to see. Huge effects, tons of action, pushing new age tech to the limits. That's what the majority of the public wants to see. Don't believe me? Look at the movies that are the blockbusters. Matrix, LOTR, Spider-Man, Star Wars, etc. Therefore, many of the movies that have complex plots and such turn out to not do so well at the box office or are released under independent studios. Albeit, the Hollywood hot shots share the blame, they're the ones that greenlight and approve this crap, but they'll keep doing it because the audience remains satisfied and keeps spending the green. I'm not saying that there aren't some gems out there, because there certainly are, but for the most part we have different movies than before because we have a different audience. Who knows, things could (and probably will) be completely different 20 or 30 years down the road.

BWSword
03-09-2005, 02:12 AM
So were getting a little more downhill than uphill...I been watching the box office for a long time and as my thought as well is...that it's falling but not that bad...hitch went pretty well for I think was...40-50 million as a start but know it falling bit by bit. Star Wars 3 should get a big hit. Ok people what should star wars start out as on their first night? like an example: Star Wars 3: 90 million example)

violentshane
03-09-2005, 04:59 AM
We need more kung-fu!

GreenvilleTexan
03-09-2005, 08:32 AM
I tend to like sci-fi, action, fantasy, the occasional romantic comedy ...
I am also a big fan of old school westerns and combat movies. However, we will never see teir like again, as those formulas have been deconstructed and rebuilt and revised a million times over and over again. Still, the classics make "comfort food" viewing on a cold winter's night.
As to the current state of movies, I think overall there are more quality movies being made these days, more epics (LOTR, Aviator, Kingdom of Heaven), and more heart felt movies (Hotel Rwanda, Million Dollar Baby, Being Julia).
However, there is also a lot of absolute dreck.
The reason? More movies have to be made, simply to fill the number of screens at all the multi-plexes in the country.
Thirty years ago, the movie-goer,in general, went to see a movie on one, big, screen.
Then came the age of six, eight, 12 or even more screens in one theater, plus multi-theaters at every mall, shopping center and small town.
The drive-ins died off, the really big screens died off and suddenly you have Hollywood realizing it can turn out three times as many movies which people will pay to see.
It's gotten a little better in recent years, with improvements in sound, picture, seating and the overall movie watching experience.
But to my mind, nothing will ever replace the thrill of my youth of going to "the" movie theater and watching films like Patton, 2001 or Silent Running in a giant theater.

spide-ed
03-09-2005, 12:53 PM
Serial-Killer Romantic comedy cannibal musicals, there arnt enough of them.

stonefaced_1
03-09-2005, 01:02 PM
Stop stealing my answers.

That's not an original answer. I don't see a copyright on it.;)

BWSword
03-09-2005, 02:18 PM
good feedback...but it seems theses days that they are leaning towards books for ideas since they keep remaking movies over and over one example is peter pan...3 times. It would be crazy it they made 2-3 more peter pan movies...

ip_guru
03-09-2005, 02:56 PM
Movies are definitely falling.....It was great when LOTR popped up, but now it's gone....And then epics are getting worse and not meeting the greatness of movies like Braveheart, Gladiator, and etc...(I have high hopes for Kingdom of Heaven tho) Sure Scorsese will direct great movies to come, but I doubt none will meet ones like Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, etc..

Also people's acting careers are going down like De Niro's and Pacino, and Nicholson, Travolta, etc..(It's not that they're turning into bad actors, its just that they're making horrible choices into what movies to be in) Sure we got people like Depp, Penn, Del Toro, Freeman, Mckellen, and others who are still doing wonderful jobs but we got people like Affleck, Reeves, and Bloom, not doing as good as they should be....We'll never see movies like The Godfather, or Apocalypse Now, or 2001: A Space Odyssey, or a Clockwork Orange, or Pulp Fiction, or Raging Bull, or Easy Rider, or One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest again, because modern cinema is all about money and everything has to make perfect sense for the viewer and we can't use our imagination....

I'm hoping on ppl like Martin Scorsese, Ridley Scott, Quentin Tarantino, Robert Rodriguez, Peter Jackson, Michael Mann, and others to keep bringing movies out that both entertain and intrigue their audiences for generations to come, just as the ones from the past..

Sorry for this, because it will sound harsh - and I don't mean this is any personal way, but this a very short-sighted perspective. Hollywood has always, since the first days of packed movies houses, been about money. This idea that there was a glamorous desire to put art on the screen has never been true. Go look at the early monster movies. They were all the exact same formula, they even had the same formula for their sequels (and they made tons of sequels back then as well).

People give Hollywood a hard time for making sequels, as if this is some new cop-out 'just to make a buck'. The old days people are wishing for; they never existed. Hollywood has been following the same formula since B&W silent films. You sell to what the current population will buy.

There will always be 'art' films, and those that are outside the mainstream. To think that somehow all the ideas are done, and we are only downhill from here is just silly. That sounds like the scientists in the late 1800s saying that science will slow down since everything had been discovered.

Every generation has good filmmakers, and every generation has bad ones. Soem good, some bad, some mediocre. Just the same as every other industry in every aspect of life for the last few hundred years.

ip_guru
03-09-2005, 03:01 PM
I disagree, my friend. I think it's really hard to see sh** when you're right in it, that's all. I'm sure folks from decades past, when they went to see Taxi Driver or Chinatown or what-have-you knew they were seeing a good movie, but they probably had no idea of just what said movie would become. There are a few recent things that might become just the kind of classic you're talking about (Fight Club and Memento come to mind). Sure there's a ton more crap for us to sift through now, but that's okay. If it weren't for the coal we wouldn't find the diamonds (or whatever). You know, you can't make an omelette and all that. I just think the spirit of pessimism that's sort of seeped into today's fandom is a bit unwarranted.

The spirit of pessimism has seeped into today's everything. Everyone's always tired, and depressed, and pessimistic, etc... Really pisses me off. Get some history lessons and a bit of perspective people!

Sorry for the OT rant....

spide-ed
03-09-2005, 03:02 PM
Ive gotta say, there seems to be a gang of these LOTR nutjobs who compare it to every movie and put it in every list and talk about how its life changing. I mean i loved the movies but go and get a girlfriend/boyfriend for christ sake, they were only movies and certainly not the greatest ever.
I'm personally fed up of rushed-out, badly directed, tying to cash in on boom, comic book movies, i wish theyd take thier time and make them right rather than just selling the rights as soon as possible. But i do like the way Warner Brothers is treating thier comic book franchises now, certainly alot better than Marvels cynical moneymaking tactics of selling to highest bidder, and screwing the quality.

sshuttari
03-09-2005, 03:41 PM
the best thing to do is look for movies that are outside the mainstream, hollywood will always be hollywood and nothing will ever change that. 2004 was a real bad year for hollywood movies besides a couple of good ones that were good. hollywood is learning that effects and action are not the only thing the public wants u need a story and good character devolpment for a movie to work and it will always be like that, just look at what happened too van helsing, chronicles of riddick, alexander, catwoman and troy.

pretty celebrites and huge speacial effects cant get audiences interested in a movie anymore.

Maiz Cascara
03-09-2005, 03:57 PM
Sorry for this, because it will sound harsh - and I don't mean this is any personal way, but this a very short-sighted perspective. Hollywood has always, since the first days of packed movies houses, been about money. This idea that there was a glamorous desire to put art on the screen has never been true. Go look at the early monster movies. They were all the exact same formula, they even had the same formula for their sequels (and they made tons of sequels back then as well).

Of course Hollywood is about money, and I didn't go in depth in saying that the modern generation is more about money because the idea of money is too much in producer's and director's heads nowadays, more than before, and you can tell because of the movies that have been produced....Also the budgets weren't as high back then as they are now, and we're delving into more computer technology, and paying less attention towards the art of film. So many bad movies have came out, that I sometimes gone many months at a time waiting to see something atleast semi-worthwhile..Yes there was really badly made movies back in the past generation but in each of those years, so many magnificent movies came up that they gained so much attention....Sorry if you found my original thread seemed short-sighted because I didn't go into alittle bit more high detail, but I made my point, and its my opinion..