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impulse
01-01-2005, 10:46 PM
CHEATING...
okay here's the deal... the reason I like CS is because I can get some honest opinions without revealing who I am... (the internet is good that way!)
But what is wrong with us men? why do we like sex so much?
The reason I ask is this... I'm married and I'm content... I don't want to cheat and I don't... but whenever I see women with nice bodies and they start flirting with me then it's like.... I GOTTA HAVE IT... it's hard to resist...
is it the attention? the sex? what is it?
WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR MEN TO SAY NO?
See I met this girl who works with me and she's nice looking (not to be offensive but she had a very nice behind which I really like) she was really into me... and of course (eventually) I had to tell her I was married and just like that... she said I couldn't call her anymore... now... I really respected that... and I felt guilty for even entertaining the idea (If I wanted to... I could have not said anything and just went on with it and well... you know the rest) and even though she wanted me and said no after I told her I still felt rejected... (and men cannot stand that feeling!) but WHY? why did I feel like that? I'm married... and I felt guilty anyway... and I'm the one who told the truth and knew what it would do... (I think in a way I was trying to tell her because I didn't want to feel guilty?)
I wish women would stop flirting so much... men are only as faithful as their options...
I think for me it's the attention... not bragging or being fake... but I get alot of attention... and I admit I really like it...
Also does any guy here know a sure fire remedy against cheating... experience please... no theories...
and yes... if my wife had been flirting with someone I'd be pissed...
I also feel bad because it seemed to have hurt her...
man! I'm about to start drinking...
wackmasterted
01-01-2005, 10:49 PM
because you wife is ass ugly and the chick your looking at looks like lindsey lohan
^^^^ please do not take that offensive. I mean i do it all the time. If your girl is hott and a chick that is hotter walks past you its instinct to check her out. Guys nature
impulse
01-01-2005, 10:50 PM
my wife is very attractive... thanks for the immature comment... you really are wack...
wackmasterted
01-01-2005, 10:51 PM
i dident mean it that way sorry read my edit. I meant to say that us guys are naturally attracted to hotter women. sorry if i affended you impulse
impulse
01-01-2005, 10:53 PM
it's cool dude... my wife is attractive... but for some reason I'm looking at women with really nice butts lately...
wackmasterted
01-01-2005, 10:54 PM
i personally loves chicks with a nice ass. It used to be the boobs but now its the ass. lol
Mr.Matinee
01-01-2005, 11:17 PM
Man has a primitive instinct to procreate........procreating being the original purpose for sex...can't change instinct,so you just gotta learn to live with it...and an understanding wife would help.
Brock Landers
01-01-2005, 11:20 PM
you really are wack...
Ouchies, impressive.
impulse
01-02-2005, 02:42 AM
Man has a primitive instinct to procreate........procreating being the original purpose for sex...can't change instinct,so you just gotta learn to live with it...and an understanding wife would help.
now how the hell can I get my wife to understand that? I'd get slapped! twice... and exactly what would i tell her?
"uh... baby... you know... that I'm instinctually attracted to big booties... so you gotta let me have other women..."
lol... can you spell "d-i-v-o-r-c-e" or "h-a-l-f" ?
PsYkOoOoO
01-02-2005, 02:53 AM
Make a deal with your wife.
"Hey honey,i hate to and will never cheat on you.So next time i get turned on outside and i will try my very best to resist the temptation and wait till i get home.So whenever i ask for sex,please accept it?"
ZombieMan
01-02-2005, 10:11 AM
now how the hell can I get my wife to understand that? I'd get slapped! twice... and exactly what would i tell her?
"uh... baby... you know... that I'm instinctually attracted to big booties... so you gotta let me have other women..."
lol... can you spell "d-i-v-o-r-c-e" or "h-a-l-f" ?
LMAO, sorry man thats just a funny concept. :omg:
Kerry from Cali
01-02-2005, 12:22 PM
sorry to burst in here boys, but i didn't see a sign on the clubhouse saying "no girls allowed"...
try it from my perspective... (and I've been married for 17 yrs. been together with my husband for 19 total)
I think you may be suffering from a very old (and *very* wrong) conclusion formed about women and sex...and that is, that we don't like or want sex as much as men. The reality couldn't be farther from the truth. What may make us a little different from you, is that we (usually, but not always) want some sort of emotion tied to it, call it caring, love or what ever... We just have different things expected from us (dealing as the primary care givers for the kids, any outside the home job, plus the housekeeping... it takes a toll, and while we may *want* to have a jolly good romp, we may be too damn tired to do it. or maybe you (and this isn't directed at any particular "you") aren't as good in bed as you thought, and we get a little bored.
Now I'm very old school about infidelity. I consider kissing (and I don't mean the hello kiss at the door, that you do when friends come over) to be cheating. Any kind of kiss you'd be doing for sexual stimulation is cheating. But that's just me. But that doesn't mean I'm not human. I can see a really nice looking guy and wonder what his kiss would be like, how good he might taste, how warm his skin could be. And if he's got good sized hands and a nice neck, I can really have a field day filling my mind with all sorts of ideas. But that's it. Just ideas. I couldn't and wouldn't take it farther. My husband deserves my loyalty and faithfulness.
I think this idea that it's only hard for men to say no is such a load of crap. Seriously, do you guys still believe that sort of nonsense??
Also, blaming women for flirting, come on guys... really, are you serious about that too?? jeeze. we can say hello to you, and you think we're flirting. Think of how many men don't wear wedding rings... how is a woman to know if he's interested or not, but to flirt a little? If we don't flirt, (for the single girls) were thought of as cold *itches. We can't win this one with you guys.
There is something about office romances that I've thought of for a long time. I can see how they happen. It's very easy for a person (either male or female but lets stick with a male point of view for now) to become infatuated when he has a pretty colleague talking to him all the time. She laughs at your jokes, and thinks you're cute. How could you not like that. With this person, you don't have to worry about the car needing new tires, the leaky toilet in the upstairs bathroom, or the bad grade little johnny got in school. With this person you can be funny, witty, charming, anything you want to be...
I've warned a few girlfriends that have husbands that work in offices with a high percentage of females, that *they* need to be the ones their husbands want to talk to. communication is the *best* key to a strong, good marriage. That, and a good sense of humor.
so take this as you will, but remember, once you start down certain paths you can never go back. You can't undo the damage and hurt that an affair can cause. You have to decide if a few moments of physical gratification is worth risking everything you've built.
and if you still think only men have a hard time saying no, then you really should go and talk with your wives/girlfriends...
I bet they could open your eyes.
Vincenzo
01-02-2005, 12:25 PM
Some very interesting opinions there. I would say fight the urges. It is very hard to, but if you are married you don't really have a choice. Depending on her thoughts on this and what type of woman she is, maybe you could make like some weird deal where she could sleep with some guy and you could sleep with some girl and then never do it again. I mean, that is just depending on how she feels about the idea of cheating. Otherwise, don't even listen to me because I am stupid.
impulse
01-02-2005, 12:47 PM
Kerry! My new best friend... I believe every word you said... and I also know it to be true... now thats what I needed to hear!
Kerry from Cali
01-02-2005, 01:31 PM
Kerry! My new best friend... I believe every word you said... and I also know it to be true... now thats what I needed to hear!
cool. i'm glad you weren't offended. ;)
and you should've heard the interesting discussion your topic caused between me and my hubby... :funny: :funny: :funny:
i told him "half?! screw half. i'd want it *all*"
and *then* i'd get nasty
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
so, how long have you been married?
Kerry from Cali
01-02-2005, 01:34 PM
oh, i meant to add that i don't think there's anything wrong with a little harmless flirtation. as long as it stays like that.
it feels *good* to have someone give you an appreciative look or smile. Hell, if I didn't want any attention, i'd wear sack clothes, you know?
impulse
01-02-2005, 03:06 PM
I've been married for almost 6 years now....
I'm 32 will be 33 in 9 days...
all not half huh? lol!
Actually I want to talk to you about this some more but I got to go... I'll be back on tonight...
Why do women have better will power than Men? (we it comes to sex)
fear of reputation or pregnacy? what do you think?
bbl
Kerry from Cali
01-02-2005, 08:51 PM
all not half huh? lol!
you've know idea how evil a woman can be, especially when we've been betrayed.
be afraid.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
i remember reading a great tag line once. it said:
never trust an animal that can bleed for 7 days, and not die...
Kerry from Cali
01-02-2005, 08:56 PM
I've been married for almost 6 years now....
I'm 32 will be 33 in 9 days...
6 yrs huh... yeah, i can remember back that far... marriage is sort of like a marathon race and you know you're gonna run 50 laps or so... by the time you hit 6 or 7 laps, your energy and strength start to lag a little, and you sometimes think you wont make it all the way. and then, like magic, you get your second wind. ;)
mark and i met when he was 20 and i had just turned 21. we were just babies...
(or as i like to say, he was still wet behind the ears...)
** i had to add that, he's been reading over my shoulder, and i can't miss an opportunity to tease him**
:funny: :funny: :funny:
Kerry from Cali
01-02-2005, 09:10 PM
Why do women have better will power than Men? (we it comes to sex)
fear of reputation or pregnacy? what do you think?
i have to start cooking for a trip we're taking to the mountains (and snow) but I wanted to drop a message before I left...
this is a question that i don't think has a right or wrong answer...
is it training? girls have it drummed into them from our earliest years not to "put out" or the nice boys wont like us..
is it because boys like to brag to each other and anyone that will listen, so you have your own sort of peer pressure to "live up" to the reputations the other guys are making?
i think it's a little of both...
girls are trained to put their needs second in a lot of ways. that being the case, it might be easier for us to deny ourselves the pleasure we want to enjoy, thus saving the couple from making a big mistake.
yeah, i'd say fear is the biggest reason we have better will power. we're afraid what our parents would do if they find out, what our classmates would say if they knew... and we're afraid of getting a disease or pregnant.
what do boys have to be afraid of? have you ever, in your life, heard of a guy who's parents got mad because he lost his virginity?? me neither.
but i've had girlfriends that were beaten by their fathers when they did. that's enough to keep a lot of girls from straying off the path of good behavior.
PsychoMike
01-02-2005, 09:26 PM
OK... Let's see.... flirting is definetly fine. Flirting is good... most people feel good when someone flirts with them, even if they are in a good relationship. Sometimes people who are in long relationships tend to take the other for granted (or feel that they are taken for granted, that the person they are with likes them out of some sort of obligation) Flirting just reaffirms that they are still disierable. I flirt all the time... I have even been accused of flirting too much... well atleast around here (I've probobly flirted with half of the girls, who are of age, here).
As for cheating... well for the most part it isn't a good thing. It causes alot of problems in relationships jealousy arises. Although I do have a friend who has sex with men other than her husband and their relaationship is still strong. Actually he is turned on by the fact that his wife has sex with other men and women. I think that sex outside a relationship is acceptable as long as evryone involved knows that it is only sex and there will be no further relationship. But this type of relationship isn't for everybody, the couple has to be very understanding and both have to agree that it is good for tham.
As for why men cheat more than women... Alot of it is the way we are made. For the most part men use sex as a way to become closer to a women... more intimate. Women, for the most part, are already pretty intimate with someone before they have sex with them. AS always their is exceptions to every rule.
Tony Montana
01-03-2005, 08:25 AM
My girlfriend knows that Im looking after girls etc., and Im sure she does the same, thats the way it is. Im in a relationship, but Im not blind, neither is she. I dont own her, so there is no use of controlling anyone. Jelousy is just a trouble-maker.
And Impulse, not only men cheat... there are more women out there cheating than we could even imagine. They are better in hiding it.
impulse
01-03-2005, 11:20 AM
My girlfriend knows that Im looking after girls etc., and Im sure she does the same, thats the way it is. Im in a relationship, but Im not blind, neither is she. I dont own her, so there is no use of controlling anyone. Jelousy is just a trouble-maker.
And Impulse, not only men cheat... there are more women out there cheating than we could even imagine. They are better in hiding it.
oh yeah... I know that one!
rayzor09
01-03-2005, 11:30 AM
This thread is GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LadyFireFly
01-03-2005, 11:31 AM
I think cheating is the most horrible thing you can do to someone you care about. I would never do it. If I was so drastically tempted to cheat to the point of internal dilemma, I would assume that there was something very wrong with the relationship and I would work on either trying to fix it, or getting out of it.
As for flirting, I think flirting is a natural thing to do. In an innocent way, not in a "sit on a guys lap and cop a feel and call it flirting" kinda way. And yes, to me, kissing is cheating too. Kissing can be more passionate than sex at times.
I agree with everything that Kerry said. There is a misconception that men are all about sex and women don't really desire it except with men they love. Please. We see a hot guy and we think impure thoughts, too. But it doesn't mean we need to run over and start attacking them.
Point blank, cheating sucks. Someone cheats on me once, they're history.
Yuney
01-03-2005, 11:32 AM
I used to have a real jealousy issue when it came to women flirting with my man... but I've since grown out of that little immature phase. If my husband told me he wasn't looking at other girls, and I was the prettiest thing out there, I would know he is lying to me. In the beginning of our relationship, I think he was afraid to tell me if he thought a girl was pretty. Now I'll ask if he thinks she is pretty and he'll tell me a straight answer, and I'll tell him if I think another guy is hot.
"Is she prettier than me?" used to be my favorite line. (Oh and guys, never answer yes to that one... even if you think she is...it will just lead to an argument ;) ) I stopped asking because I really don't need to know. I know my man loves me, and if he cheats on me I always threaten I'll cut it off :P Harmless flirting does not bother me anymore. He's coming home to me.
I don't think men in general have less willpower than women do... it is just more socially acceptable if a man cheats imo. Women are called sluts, or b*tches if they cheat, while its no big deal if a man cheats. "It's just in his nature" is the way we rationalize men cheating. Women are just as tempted to cheat, but because of the rules in society, it may not happen as much with women, or we are just better at hiding it. I would never cheat on my husband. The reason for that is because I know how much it hurts to be cheated on, and would never want to inflict that kind of pain. Though it may seem fresh, new, and exciting with a newer person that is showing you attention, in the long run, that newness and excitement will wear off eventually. I would rather stay with a person that I know is trustworthy, and weather whatever storms come our way, without cheating. Just my 2cents :)
Kerry from Cali
01-03-2005, 11:33 AM
This thread is GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you for taking the time, out of what must be your very busy social life, to make such a positive and thought provoking contribution.
rayzor09
01-03-2005, 11:38 AM
First of all I took the time to vote at least. and second of all you needn't make personal attacks because: A) The only reason I'm here is because of Christmas Holiday and B) You have twice as much posts as me and you call me a nerd. 2,000 of my posts IS SPAM ANYWAY
fattybolger
01-03-2005, 11:54 AM
Kerry's insights are worth their weight in mithril (a geeky LOTR reference) :)
In the end it's about accountability...is a passing seemingly pleasureable event worth the misery you will cause another and yourself...we like to think conscience is dead in this age but it is not, and the more miles you put on the more you know it...
Flirting? Depends on the content and the context...some "flirtations" are trial seductions, others may be honest and complimentary...my advice: only speak to another as though your spouse/significant other were present...
If any of you are C&W fans, check out Gretchen Wilson's "Cheating'"...some good insight from that Red-Neck Woman...
Frizzo the Clown
01-03-2005, 12:02 PM
This thread is GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What an idiotic response. Don't like the thread, don't post. If you're going to insult the thread, at least come up with a better insult than "its gay." If you're going to be insulting, at least be intelligent about it. Think of something original. But what do I know, right?
CapricornDevil
01-03-2005, 12:04 PM
This thread is GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Really? I thought that impulse was talking about being a man tempted to cheat on his wife. Very little of that seems gay to me. I don't recall him mentioning that he was attracted to men.
Do us all a favor; next time you have the urge to make a post like this, don't. All posts like this do is betray your ignorance. They are not only mind-numbingly stupid, but incredible offensive. I really don't care anymore if you consider it to be offensive or not, it still is.
Now..on to the subject of the thread. I know that I have been accused of cheating before, but never have. I am a natural flirt and will flirt with nearly everyone. It isn't something that I do intentionally, it is just my natural way of acting. Sadly, that flirting has been misconstrued as cheating and has hurt some people in the process.
My thought is that as long as the flirting is not with the intention of getting the person turned on, aroused, or attracted to you, then it is harmless. However, when you intentionally flirt with someone to get them turned on, that can be just as damaging as actually having sex with them.
It is a fine line, unfortunately.
rayzor09
01-03-2005, 12:42 PM
I just try to write an intellectual response and everyone gets pissed off.
CapricornDevil
01-03-2005, 12:49 PM
I just try to write an intellectual response and everyone gets pissed off.I hate to break it to you....actually, no I don't. I LOVE to break it to you that there was NOTHING intellectual about your post. All that post contained was offensive, mindless, ignorant blather that contributed nothing to the conversation.
Why don't you actually think from time to time?
Klimber
01-03-2005, 02:13 PM
Impulse, I feel that you did nothing wrong. I too am in my early 30's and have been married for almost 8 years now (together for 12 years) and I still see the beauty in other women that I see in daily life. I am married not dead.
I had a similar scenario to you when I started my job 4 years ago. I was 28 at the time and a new employee when I meet an amazingly hot 20-year-old co-worker, who was very interested in pushing me to the next level regardless of my marriage or hers. She and I soon became office gossip and were rumored to be getting sweaty during our lunches. In reality we had never done anything other than eating lunch together often and some serious flirting. At one point she told me that she wanted to have sex with me and she would wait until I was ready to accept the fact that we would soon be cheating on our spouses with each other. The truth was that no matter how attracted I was to her and no matter how tempted I was to have sex with her, I could not bring myself to shredding my relationship with my soul mate in exchange for some at work screwing around.
I made the decision like you to remain faithful and honor your commitment to you wife. Yes the flirting feels good and that knot in the pit of your stomach every time you smell a whiff of the other woman's perfume is a intoxicating feeling but it is nothing compared to your wife and your family.
The woman reacting how she did is that weird thing that is common to women (sorry for the phrase Kerri) that is
75% The philosophy that every minute from now on is a waste of flirting IE You are wasting her time that she could be using to find a mate. How dare you.
25% is out of embarrassment that she either did not realize that you were married or more likely cannot believe you were basically inferring that she is a home wrecker. Again, How dare you.
In my case I got lucky the 20-year-old hottie at work respected my decision to not become another notch on her bedpost and our friendship and sexual attraction has mutated into a genuine friendship. I am now a person she can come to and tell anything about her sexual exploits and problems with men she is dating (as you can imagine her marriage did not last very long). She is now 25 and is still a very close friend and confidant but I no longer feel that I am in jeopardy of losing my wife. I like to use the phrase: I have found my soul mate...I just hope my wife never finds hers!
So do not feel bad in casual flirting or checking out the good looking girl ahead of you in the supermarket. As long as you are maintaining your honor you are safe. IMO.
Of course Bill Clinton has a different take on this sort of thing.
impulse
01-03-2005, 03:08 PM
This thread is GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what's the matter with this dude? First he makes a thread saying Frizzo shouldn't be a mod... now he's going into threads saying stuff like this?
Are you trying to get banned?
impulse
01-03-2005, 03:13 PM
The reason for that is because I know how much it hurts to be cheated on, and would never want to inflict that kind of pain. Though it may seem fresh, new, and exciting with a newer person that is showing you attention, in the long run, that newness and excitement will wear off eventually. I would rather stay with a person that I know is trustworthy, and weather whatever storms come our way, without cheating. Just my 2cents
I'll keep that in mind... Cuz I've been cheated on before and it hurts like hell... and the "new-ness" of another person will eventually wear off... hell the new person could be a whole new set of problems as we all know everybody has the their own problems...
I hate to break it to you....actually, no I don't. I LOVE to break it to you that there was NOTHING intellectual about your post. All that post contained was offensive, mindless, ignorant blather that contributed nothing to the conversation.
Why don't you actually think from time to time?
LOL... Pay Rayzor no mind Capri... I like this post though! LOL
Impulse, I feel that you did nothing wrong. I too am in my early 30's and have been married for almost 8 years now (together for 12 years) and I still see the beauty in other women that I see in daily life. I am married not dead.
I had a similar scenario to you when I started my job 4 years ago. I was 28 at the time and a new employee when I meet an amazingly hot 20-year-old co-worker, who was very interested in pushing me to the next level regardless of my marriage or hers. She and I soon became office gossip and were rumored to be getting sweaty during our lunches. In reality we had never done anything other than eating lunch together often and some serious flirting. At one point she told me that she wanted to have sex with me and she would wait until I was ready to accept the fact that we would soon be cheating on our spouses with each other. The truth was that no matter how attracted I was to her and no matter how tempted I was to have sex with her, I could not bring myself to shredding my relationship with my soul mate in exchange for some at work screwing around.
I made the decision like you to remain faithful and honor your commitment to you wife. Yes the flirting feels good and that knot in the pit of your stomach every time you smell a whiff of the other woman's perfume is a intoxicating feeling but it is nothing compared to your wife and your family.
The woman reacting how she did is that weird thing that is common to women (sorry for the phrase Kerri) that is
75% The philosophy that every minute from now on is a waste of flirting IE You are wasting her time that she could be using to find a mate. How dare you.
25% is out of embarrassment that she either did not realize that you were married or more likely cannot believe you were basically inferring that she is a home wrecker. Again, How dare you.
In my case I got lucky the 20-year-old hottie at work respected my decision to not become another notch on her bedpost and our friendship and sexual attraction has mutated into a genuine friendship. I am now a person she can come to and tell anything about her sexual exploits and problems with men she is dating (as you can imagine her marriage did not last very long). She is now 25 and is still a very close friend and confidant but I no longer feel that I am in jeopardy of losing my wife. I like to use the phrase: I have found my soul mate...I just hope my wife never finds hers!
So do not feel bad in casual flirting or checking out the good looking girl ahead of you in the supermarket. As long as you are maintaining your honor you are safe. IMO.
Of course Bill Clinton has a different take on this sort of thing.
Wow... I'm glad I made this thread... lets me know ppl have the same dealings as I do...
Klimber
01-03-2005, 04:48 PM
Just remember this Impulse. If you and you lady are walking in the mall and you see some hot girl in a pair of tight jeans. Do not fool yourself into thinking that your girl does not know that you were checking her out. You saw the girl from 20 away, but she saw her walk out of the store at the other end of the mall. After 6 years of marriage she will see your type of girl before you do. Whether she busts you checking her out is all a matter of how cool she is, how confident she is of herself and if she is the jealous type.
ip_guru
01-03-2005, 04:55 PM
I would think that any human with a pulse, and who is married, deals with this issue. I've been married 13 years, and never cheated. And, I can say with complete confidence - knowing it is true - that I never will.
Cheating is not acceptable in any form. The pain you cause your spouse, and the pain you cause yourself is simply not worth it for a momentary release. There is no scenario that ends positive from cheating. And, if you have kids, even worse. Then not only did you just ruin your life and your spouse's life, but you have hurt your children as well.
Flirting can be dangerous. This is because people take flirting in different ways, what you might view as cute and fun, someone else might view as an invite for more action. Here is my guideline for flirting. If my wife were in the room next to me, and she saw it, how would she feel? If she would be upset, then the line has been crossed, if she wouldn't then it is harmless. So flirting being right or wrong depends on intent.
Looking at others is different. Looking at a person you find attractive is no big deal, unless you follow up the looking with lusting. Any relationship built on trust and love can handle looking.
On a different note, one thing I have a hard time with are the women who view married men as their 'targets'. I've met women who push the limits just because of the ring. It seems they like the challenge even more.
rayzor09
01-04-2005, 08:27 PM
what's the matter with this dude? First he makes a thread saying Frizzo shouldn't be a mod... now he's going into threads saying stuff like this?
Are you trying to get banned?
omg... i try to speak my mind...
frizzo is great and hilarious but does funny go with modding???
Kitty
01-04-2005, 08:30 PM
omg... i try to speak my mind...
frizzo is great and hilarious but does funny go with modding???
i see that you have not seen frizzo in action when it comes to modding..he is a great mod and after a certain poster is banned yes sometimes mods mix in some jokes with the banning :P
Frizzo the Clown
01-04-2005, 08:37 PM
If you want to see how well I can moderate the forum, keep it up. It might still be funny though....
pixiness
01-05-2005, 09:32 AM
I think it really depends on the person's state of mind.
Are you flirting with someone else because flirting is fun and you enjoy it and essentially it's like recreation for you? Then go right ahead. Even if you're kissing someone, I don't think it's a big deal as long as everyone knows the parameters behind it. If you and the person you're kissing know it's only for fun, AND the person you're with (dating, married to, etc.) is okay with you kissing other people under those circumstances - i don't see a problem with it.
Are you flirting with someone because you're not really getting what you need from your own relationship and you're looking for validation from someone else? Then you've got deeper relationship issues. You're not flirting at that point; you're fishing (you're actively looking for someone else). End the relationship or figure out a way to fix it.
Are you doing considerably more than flirting? Are you having sex with the person? If it were me, I'd probably be very hurt by someone I love having sex with someone else. Because like Kerry pointed out, for me (and most girls) sex is about making a connection with someone. Sharing that with someone else would fall under the "relationship issues" category with me. If it were really truly possible for two people to believe that their partner could have meaningless sex with someone else and they were both cool with it, I guess I'd respect that. I just don't think I'd want it for my own relationship.
impulse
01-05-2005, 05:42 PM
Well I don't (and I know my wife doesn't) believe in meaningless sex... so that option is out of the question...
This is gonna sound kind of chauvinistic (sp?) but... I think I should... naw nevermind...
Catshe
01-07-2005, 05:12 AM
There is nothing wrong with a bit of harmless flirting. as long as thats all it is. it boost the moral.
Klimber
01-07-2005, 12:35 PM
If it were really truly possible for two people to believe that their partner could have meaningless sex with someone else and they were both cool with it, I guess I'd respect that. I just don't think I'd want it for my own relationship.
I have heard rumors that Will Smith and Jada Pinkitt Smith have an open relationship that allows each other to date (and I am guessing bang) other people. Do not know if it is true though. Strange.
pixiness
01-07-2005, 02:18 PM
If it works for them... great. I have a hard time telling other people how to run their own relationships (or lives for that matter). As long as two people are being open and honest with everything and they truly are both happy with the situations as they exist, then who am I to say they can't do it?
IdahoMR2man
01-07-2005, 03:13 PM
Pixi's right. The only people who can decide what "cheating" is are the people in that specific relationship.
impulse
01-07-2005, 11:53 PM
I have heard rumors that Will Smith and Jada Pinkitt Smith have an open relationship that allows each other to date (and I am guessing bang) other people. Do not know if it is true though. Strange.
whoa! I've heard that too... from a popular magazine! can't remember which one though...
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