CrAcK CoCaInE

[impulse]

Does anyone here know of anyone who uses crack? Does anyone have a family member or friend addicted to crack or another serious drug?

My uncle... (I ain't shamed to tell you cuz I don't like him) is addicted to crack... He was a somewhat respected man, with a family and occupation... for some strange reason back in the late '80s he tried crack and was immediately hooked... he began to walk around the house naked in front of his daughter who was 14 at the time... his wife left and took the kids... and he lost his house, family, occupation and dignity all at once... now he strolls his neighborhood as a crack addicted vagrant and constantly begs his mother (my grandmother) for money... I have since then kicked his ass about 5 to 6 times... (whenever he harasses my grandmother and sometimes just for kicks :D)

Crack is no joke... Don't ever try it... EVER!... I have seen crack make grown men turn into prostitutes...

They say if you try it just once you'll be addicted!

But understand that you don't have to start off by taking crack... if you smoke marijuana (introductory drug) then you have a higher chance of trying a level 1 drug (drugs with no medical use) and become a drug addicted person... That includes Crack (rock) Herion (opium, black tar) Exctasy (X) Mushrooms, Acid, Etc....

All drugs are bad... no matter the 'cool' name or 'cool' person offering them to you... this may sound corny but please just don't do it... I've seen so many crazy incidents in Detroit that were the result of drugs... A well respected male lawyer from the Detroit area now walks the street dressed as a female prostitute "working" to fufill his crack habit... he lost everything!

If you go to a club and set your drink down without watching it... DO NOT DRINK FROM IT AGAIN

DO NOT lick stamps or any papers given to you from anyone... use water to seal envelopes and wet stamps...

Don't smoke anything "rolled up" by a person (Hell don't smoke anything at all!)

NEVER try nothing "new" to be accepted....

And just 'cause it's legal does not make it right... I.E. cigarettes and alcohol... do you know that alcohol is the most abused drug in the world? and causes more deaths than any other drug?

Do you know that the U.S. government is actually considering making marijuana legal? They are just trying to figure a way of profiting from it....

Okay that's my lecture for today...

[UnicornBlood3]

Some of my friends have done all the things you've listed above. The only thing I've done on that list is smoke marijuana.

The second time my cousin overdosed on herion he died.

[Kable24]

Here's a story for you as well.

My one time supervisor was into marijuana, but everyone at work turned a blind eye to it. He left for a better job, but was fired after 5 months there. He kept coming back and would apply for job openings, but the company wouldn't hire him. When I became supervisor, a position opened up on my shift, so I went to my boss and said I'll take a chance with him. He lasted 3 weeks and I had to fire him. In the time he first left, he was into pot and crack. A few weeks after I fired him, he ended up robbing a local bank and getting $3000. He "smoked" it all away in a weekend and then ended up turning himself in because he saw a police report on the news about a warrant for his arrest. His picture was in our local paper that was taken by the security camera at the bank and he was wearing a company shirt. It's a shame because he was one helluva supervisor and in less than a year he squandered everything he could have been away. Not to mention he had 4 kids.

[ZombieMan]

impulse thanks for the lecture daddy! ;) Just kidding...Anyhow, that was actually a really cool thing for you to do. I know people who have tried all of the drugs that you have mentioned plus more. Also people here need to realize that there are people out there who abuse prescription drugs as well, like vikadin (??? don't know how to spell that), xanax (which I'm on but I hardly take it), zoloft, morphine, and so much more that can be just as bad as the drugs that impulse mentioned.

[KUsubaruchick]

My habits are social. I'd say that I smoke pot about once a month, if even that. Marijuana is not a gateway drug. I've been smoking it for 5 years, and I haven't tried any drug that I didn't already do before I started smoking. It's my body, I'll do what I want to it. No lecture is going to change the way I feel. I've taken a bunch of health classes, they all talk about "drugs are bad, blah blah blah". I've heard it already, still don't care.

zombie - vicodin, morphine, percocet, pretty much any opiate is awesome-tastic :D

[stonefaced_1]

My habits are social. I'd say that I smoke pot about once a month, if even that. Marijuana is not a gateway drug. I've been smoking it for 5 years, and I haven't tried any drug that I didn't already do before I started smoking. It's my body, I'll do what I want to it. No lecture is going to change the way I feel. I've taken a bunch of health classes, they all talk about "drugs are bad, blah blah blah". I've heard it already, still don't care.

I used to have the exact same attitude.

I smoked pot for the first time in two years about three weeks ago, and I remembered why I quit. That was the last time I'll ever smoke.

[ZombieMan]

zombie - vicodin, morphine, percocet, pretty much any opiate is awesome-tastic :D

Hope you feel pretty big and tough by saying that. Won't be as "cool" when your laying six feet under huh? One of my brother-in-law's died from too much vicodin mixed with alcohol.

[KUsubaruchick]

Hope you feel pretty big and tough by saying that. Won't be as "cool" when your laying six feet under huh? One of my brother-in-law's died from too much vicodin mixed with alcohol.

I'm not doing it because it makes me feel "cool". I honestly don't give a crap what happens to me. Like said, my body, I'll do what I want to it.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ Wow, I really thought that you were smarter than that.

[KUsubaruchick]

Yep, well I guess you were wrong... It doesn't make me stupid. I'm going to a real college, remember? Why do you feel the need to judge me for a choice I make that has absolutely no affect on you?

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I'm not gonna mess with it anymore, you know what? Since impulse is a cop, I will let him handle it from here on. Afterall that is his job and don't be surprised if you get tipped off, there are alot of anti-drug people on here.

[KUsubaruchick]

Fan-****ing-tastic. This is me not caring (I've talked to Impulse, he's cool)

[ZombieMan]

^^^ So, impulse you stand for illegal activities such as this and your a cop?

[spiderman_2k]

I have never done any drugs and I dont plan too...I have respect for my body and I dont want to **** it up, or **** my life up with that ****.

[pixiness]

ugh - not to throw fuel on a fire of a burgeoning debate but....

Saying "people who use drugs are stupid losers or addicts" is as untruthful as saying "all people that don't use drugs are lame and dorky."

Think about what you're saying - because the government tells you that this substance or that substance is evil, you're just gonna blindly believe it? Yes, people become addicted to things. Yes, people make bad choices about how to treat their bodies. Yes, people can die from using drugs. But please consider the other side of that situation - Plenty of people can find a way to balance drug use and being a functioning member of society. Plenty of people also use drugs and live to tell the tale.

Do yourself a favor no matter what side of the issue you're on - educate yourself. If you're TOTALLY against all drugs of any kind, ask yourself why it's okay that people under a doctor's care get addicted to their painkillers but it's not okay when someone NOT under a physician's care never even comes close to addiction. Do a little research and find out about the cultures that have used heroin, peyote, cocaine and other illicit substances for hundreds of years without a single reported incidence of violent crime or addictive behavior.

If you're supportive of drugs, do yourself a favor and find out why off-label use of pharmaceuticals is such a hazardous thing. Look into the long-term effects of sustained usage. Learn about how a drug interacts with your body to produce the sensation it does - there's no such thing as a free ride.

But let's please all be respectful instead of slamming each other. In my experience both sides have a lot to learn before they can even come close to being justified in judging the other side.

[KUsubaruchick]

^^^ So, impulse you stand for illegal activities such as this and your a cop?

Dude, settle down. He's not "bad cop" just because he isn't coming to get me.

[ZombieMan]

^^^ I just think that its crap when someone doesn't respect their family when it comes to them doing drugs and saying that they don't care about what happens to them. It kills people's family and especially if the person who overdosed was young. I've seen it and felt it first hand and its not a pleasant thing to go through. I also want to know why impulse stands by these illegal acts as a policeman.

[KUsubaruchick]

^^^ I just think that its crap when someone doesn't respect their family when it comes to them doing drugs and saying that they don't care about what happens to them. It kills people's family and especially if the person who overdosed was young. I've seen it and felt it first hand and its not a pleasant thing to go through. I also want to know why impulse stands by these illegal acts as a policeman.

You seem to be missing the point. I never said I don't respect my family, I don't respect myself. I haven't OD'd and don't plan on it. That's why it's called social, I don't do it all the time, it's occasional, which is why I have low tolerance, and don't have to take enough to kill myself.
Also, Impulse's entire post was about drugs being bad, people shouldn't do them. That doesn't sound like approving of illegal activities to me.

[pixiness]

But understand that you don't have to start off by taking crack... if you smoke marijuana (introductory drug) then you have a higher chance of trying a level 1 drug (drugs with no medical use) and become a drug addicted person... That includes Crack (rock) Herion (opium, black tar) Exctasy (X) Mushrooms, Acid, Etc....



I understand that you probably got your information from the police department you work for - but this is patently untrue. Numerous studies conducted by independent universities and researchers have never shown there to be any correlary or link made between marijuana use, alcohol use and narcotic addiction.

Secondly, to lump mushrooms, acid and ecstacy in with narcotics - you're proliferating serious false propaganda. Marijuana, ecstacy, mushrooms and acid are non-addictive substances. Their use does not open a neural pathway in the brain that is necessary for addiction. Cigarettes are more addictive than any of these substances.

I'm not advocating the use of any of these - just trying to keep things fact based. Thanks.

[Se7en the movie]

You seem to be missing the point. I never said I don't respect my family, I don't respect myself. I haven't OD'd and don't plan on it.

I think very few people plan on ODing.

[KUsubaruchick]

I think very few people plan on ODing.

You might want to reconsider. At a very low point in my life, I considered "gee, what a way to go". If I ever decide to go through with it, that's how I would go. I'd call that planning, but I could be wrong.

[pixiness]

no - few people plan on OD'ing - but a lot of people plan on pushing their limits.

It doesn't sound like KU is jumping on the bandwagon of either - In fact it seems like she knows her limits and isn't interested in pushing them to the slightest. So let's chill out a bit shall we?

[KUsubaruchick]

It doesn't sound like KU is jumping on the bandwagon of either - In fact it seems like she knows her limits and isn't interested in pushing them to the slightest. So let's chill out a bit shall we?

Thank you. You've been making good points in all your posts, but I've been too busy defending myself to acknowledge them any earlier. :)

[pixiness]

that's okay - I don't need to be acknowledged as long as people read and think. :)

[Skinny]

I agree with pixi on her shpeel about the truth about both sides of the drug story and all, and of course, there are people that can find that balance between doing drugs and functioning normally in society and also in their lives, might I add... However, if that one person just happens to not find that balance, it's gonna be a lop-sided life down the drain... it's gonna be a hole if dug deeper, it will be harder to get out... I wouldn't know, however, because I never used the stuff, but I sure certainly have seen it, and boy oh boy, it's a sad, ugly site...

[Citizen Kane]

I've done nothing.

[impulse]

^^^ So, impulse you stand for illegal activities such as this and your a cop? Whoa! what the hell happened since I've been gone? lol listen I don't stand for illegal activities Zombie you know that! but I can't control what another person thinks... She's right it's her body... but I don't condone it... I'm a cop... not Superman... I can't stop someone from the internet LOL... but I'll try and discourage it....

I like you both Zombie and KU...

but Zombie you have to understand that just cause KU uses certain drugs doesn't make her a "bad" person... I know lots of ppl personally who use drugs... and I mean LOTS... nowadays it's a fact of life...

[impulse]

pixiness we've got some debating to do... however I'm too tired to post! (just voted and stood in line for almost 3 hours!) and the PISTONS are on...

but we have to talk about that introductory drug - marijuana
and the non addictiveness of certain other drugs... depends on your definition of addiction.... you can be addicted to sex...

[Boro]

all of the above plus morphine, vicodin, cigarretes, lsd, and surf ninjas.

[Mr. Blonde1]

I have not done any drugs and I never plan to try it. I don't need to get high to have fun. I have better things to do.

[cg124]

I have not done any drugs and I never plan to try it. I don't need to get high to have fun. I have better things to do.


Same for me. My school is filled with kids who do drugs(i'm not saying there bad people, I talk to some of them.)

[redman]

ive only done pot. i probably do it once every 3-6 months. when im with a few good friends, its great fun.

But i do know the pitfalls that come about from drugs. I've lost friendships with 2 of my best friends because of drugs which was really depressing. But they were more interested in making money from drugs so i kinda didnt want to be associated with them after that.

Apart from that, I'm at university - if im at a party and someone offers me free weed, who am i to say no?

[equipe]

Apart from that, I'm at university - if im at a party and someone offers me free weed, who am i to say no?

Ohh, I miss University :(

I can't wait to go home and hopefully the Canadian government will have finally de-criminalized marijuana :D

[DolAmroth]

I have tried alcohol, weed, shrooms, lsd, and cocaine also a variety of pharmacy drugs.
Cocaine is by far a waste of money i know alotta people and i only know one preson who has smoked crack

[Stowe22]

Herion- Smack......just helping

[ZombieMan]

I've lost friendships with 2 of my best friends because of drugs which was really depressing. But they were more interested in making money from drugs so i kinda didnt want to be associated with them after that.

I know how that is dude...

[ZombieMan]

I'm a cop... not Superman...

But......*sniff sniff*, I thought you were.....:( Your such a dissapointment impulse! ;)

[Drizzt240]

I voted for all of them. My brother and sister are druggies.

[impulse]

hmmm? no surprise that marijuana is leading...

[Drizzt240]

I didn't read the big post Impulse wrote at the beginning, but I guess he wants me to answer whether I have tried drugs.

I have not tried any of those, including alcohol. When I was about 7, I told my mom I wasn't going to do drugs or drink.

[PsychoMike]

I understand that you probably got your information from the police department you work for - but this is patently untrue. Numerous studies conducted by independent universities and researchers have never shown there to be any correlary or link made between marijuana use, alcohol use and narcotic addiction.

Secondly, to lump mushrooms, acid and ecstacy in with narcotics - you're proliferating serious false propaganda. Marijuana, ecstacy, mushrooms and acid are non-addictive substances. Their use does not open a neural pathway in the brain that is necessary for addiction. Cigarettes are more addictive than any of these substances.

I'm not advocating the use of any of these - just trying to keep things fact based. Thanks.

While there is no physical addiction to these substances. There are many people who still become addicted to some of these substances. It is more of an emotional/mantal addiction, they like the feeling they get when they take the drugs. While their body dosen't need the substance (like with a physical addiction) they think they do.

Now as addictions go physical addictions are the worse... and the hardest to quite. Also nearly everybody who takes drugs with physical addictions becomes addicted... if they take them for awhile. As for mental/emotional addictions they are easier to kick, and not everyone gets the addiction.

[KeyserLime]

i smoke herb maybe once every two weeks to a month. I know it may sound like a lot, but i'm a high school kid and instead of drinking, my high school goes more into smoking. I'm really really adamant though about not trying other drugs. A friend of mine got expelled because he was addicted to weed and smoked five times a day on a five day long school trip and got caught. When i saw him a week later the first thing he told me was Dude i tried Opium and it really depressed me. I have a lot of friends who don't smoke as well and I totally respect anyones choice to do that.

If anyone disagrees with the way i live my life, im willing to listen to their side of the argument, but first I'd like to point at that again, i'm a social smoker, so i go only with friends and not just by myself. And I probably smoke a lot less than the people who drink do their their drinking.

[Carnage Escobar]

The only drug I've ever done, and probably will ever use is marijuana. Now I know a lot of people out there say s**t like 'marijuana is bad for you, and it kills brain cells' and yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda. It's the same bulls**t I hear ever time marijuana is being disscussed. Listen to me closely and listen well 'cause I'll only say this once! Marijuana only f**ks you up when you allow it to.

Do you know why I say that? Because there are people like me who can smoke weed whenever they damn well feel like and still keep control of themselves and not let it kill any brain cells. I know this because I used to smoke weed ALL THE TIME, but yet I still manage to keep myself under control and not get 'addicted' to it. Howver, I can't say the same for other people 'cause they'll try marijuana and then wanna try something else to get a bigger high. I just smoke marijuana to get a nice buzz, that's all.

But for all of you f**kers out there that have never tried a drug in there life, do yourself a favor and stay drug-free and don't ever let ANYBODY talk you into doing anything that you wouldn't want to try. If you keep yourself clean and prevent yourself from becoming a junkie, you'll live a better and happier life.

[Oj]

Pot and alcohol. Not often, but when the mood strikes... :D

[Crow T. Robot]

Thats quite a feat, carnage. Smoking pot and believing it has no effect on you. You'll feel it eventually, maybe when your older your mind wont be as quick.

I have never tried an illicit substance and have no respect for those that do.

[Brock Landers]

The one with 23 votes. ;)

[eclipsedman]

Thats quite a feat, carnage. Smoking pot and believing it has no effect on you. You'll feel it eventually, maybe when your older your mind wont be as quick.

I have never tried an illicit substance and have no respect for those that do.

Thats too bad crow, as there many talented and respected members of society that use and don't abuse drugs everyday. Crack is really not that addictive especially if you have tried other drugs, its reaqlly for those individuals that can't afford others. I am not condoning the use of drugs because theere are many people who should never use them.

Ohh yeah and mental addiction is much worse than physical addiction. Most people who relapse from drugs do it because of the mental addiction, this usually happens long after the physical addiction has passed.

[impulse]

Crack is really not that addictive WTF? LOL
what kind of crack are you talking about? butt crack? sorry I had to say that... YES CRACK IS ADDICTIVE it's one of the most addictive drugs you can use...

[KeyserLime]

Crow i recall you mentioning that you were a beatles fan. I hope you still respect them.
There are many other artists who would not have been nearly as experimental or great without drugs. I'm not saying smoke and you'll be great, but i think bands like The Doors would be nowhere without them

I don't support all drugs but i think there are worse things than a little bud.

[eclipsedman]

WTF? LOL
what kind of crack are you talking about? butt crack? sorry I had to say that... YES CRACK IS ADDICTIVE it's one of the most addictive drugs you can use...

Have you ever used it yourself? If you have and have tried other drugs than you will see it is crap and not that addictive. It is mostly in lower income areas that it is used and abused. Now in regards to butt crack I could tell you a real story about that ( i heard it from a crack head in rehab)

[eclipsedman]

Crow i recall you mentioning that you were a beatles fan. I hope you still respect them.
There are many other artists who would not have been nearly as experimental or great without drugs. I'm not saying smoke and you'll be great, but i think bands like The Doors would be nowhere without them

I don't support all drugs but i think there are worse things than a little bud.

Well put Keyser

[Tony Montana]

I know people who have done all of those things, still doing some of them, and many more.

You forgot cocain on your list.

[impulse]

okay eclispedman give the story of the crack... butt crack...

[sphericthor]

I know people who have tried Marijuana but none of them I would say are addicted..... I haven't done anything like that personally and I sure as hell remain adamant that I wont be doing it at all. I am really anti-drugs and that basically goes for alcohol and nicotine aswell which is my choice. None of my mates would do these sort of things either which is a good thing, one would probably have a drink once or twice a year but no drugs.

[Tony Montana]

Marijuana is much better than nicotine. I used to smoke for 11 years, than quit and I feel much better and I save a huge amount of money. Cigarettes are the worse thing ever, you pay **** load of money for nothing, you dont even get high of them. They just kill you, thats it.

[Rogue]

I don't abuse pot - I smoke every now and again. I don't abuse alcohol either because I don't get falling down, ****faced drunk every time I drink. Most times it's just for a buzz. Hydrocodone and other painkillers, now those, I'd say I abuse those.

For the harder drugs - cocaine, etc. I've never tried because anything like that will kill me. I have tachycardia and if my heart were to beat any faster, it'd kill me. Heart exploding = not a good way to die.

[Rogue]

Marijuana is much better than nicotine. I used to smoke for 11 years, than quit and I feel much better and I save a huge amount of money. Cigarettes are the worse thing ever, you pay **** load of money for nothing, you dont even get high of them. They just kill you, thats it.

Not to mention they're a ***** to smoke after you've been smoking down. Enhaling cigarette smoke is so much heavier and nastier after smoking. I wish pot was legal, I really do.

[pixiness]

While there is no physical addiction to these substances. There are many people who still become addicted to some of these substances. It is more of an emotional/mantal addiction, they like the feeling they get when they take the drugs. While their body dosen't need the substance (like with a physical addiction) they think they do.

Now as addictions go physical addictions are the worse... and the hardest to quite. Also nearly everybody who takes drugs with physical addictions becomes addicted... if they take them for awhile. As for mental/emotional addictions they are easier to kick, and not everyone gets the addiction.

I'm not denying that people form a mental/emotional habit for drugs... what I think needs to be made clear is that many drugs that people classify as "addictive" - really, in fact, are not. By addictive I mean capable of creating a chemical dependence. Marijuana, lsd, ecstacy, hash, mushrooms are among the most commonly mislabeled of the category. There is a clear distinction between habit forming and addictive - and it is the self control of the person using the substance. It's a distinction that I feel is often ignored or misconveyed when it comes to drugs.

Just because something is habit forming doesn't mean it should be illegal. As was excellently pointed out - people develop habits for a lot of things - sex, pornography, the internet, eating, shopping, etc. These aren't all bad things in moderation. But ask any medical professional and they will tell you that the person who claims to be "addicted" to these things truly just engages in them compulsively and has the power within themselves to stop their behavior. The person with an actual addiction suffers from an intense physical need for the substance - a need that if not fulfilled will inflict physical consequences in the form of withdrawl.

Before taking the stance that drugs should all be illegal because they have the potential to become habit forming - ask yourself how you'd feel if someone banned your ability to have sex, masturbate, eat fattening foods, or browse CS based on the same set of criteria.

[Carnage Escobar]

I wish pot was legal, I really do.

So do I. :D

[Rogue]

But the chances of that happening anytime in the next four years, or anything to help us out for that matter (;)), are pretty mucn non-existent.

[KeyserLime]

I wish it were legal, but i think, and Impulse i'd like to hear what you think as well, i think that if it were legalized there would be mass hysteria for about a few months as everyone went to go by legal weed.

[Carnage Escobar]

I think that if it were legalized there would be mass hysteria for about a few months as everyone went to go buy legal weed.

Whoever said anything about buying legal weed? :nono: :D

[Skinny]

If drugs were legalized, man, that would put the value of the drugs of the ENTIRE drug market into a swap meet... Assuming of course that the people next to you are wanting to try it...

[Yuney]

I've never tried any drugs whatsoever, and never plan on it. I just don't see the point in it. I have seen it screw up too many people's lives to even try it. My brother was homeless and eating out of trash cans because all his money was going to drugs. I've seen friends completely lose all sense and wreck their lives completely while on the hard drugs. It really just makes me sad to think about. :(

I understand why people do it- boredom, stress, relaxation, peer pressure, and sometimes to forget about all the crap out there. But for me, I don't want to mess things up and I'm too rule-oriented to try it. For those that do, those are your choices to make, and I'm not going to judge you for it. Each of us have our own weaknesses to deal with. Just try to think twice before getting involved with the hard stuff. Habits are really hard to break....

[eclipsedman]

okay eclispedman give the story of the crack... butt crack...

Ok here it is. A crack head had picked up about $60 worth of crack and was smoking it in his room with lights out and windows closed with black drapes. After a while he stripped naked and was smoking in the closet. He was then down to 1 rock left, which he decided to save, so he punched a hole in the wall to hide it. The problem is it was plaster, so a few minutes later hes on the floor butt naked and searching the floor for his little piece of crack amongst a ton of plaster. He finally finds it and doesn't wan't to lose it again so he hides it in his ass. A few minutes later he has to smoke it and he did.

The story of butt crack told to me by a crack head.

Thats a funny but sad story, but I also saw someone come back after smoking crack for 2 days, this was after going sober for 6 months. He was drooling and could not keep his head up.

[PsychoMike]

I'm not denying that people form a mental/emotional habit for drugs... what I think needs to be made clear is that many drugs that people classify as "addictive" - really, in fact, are not. By addictive I mean capable of creating a chemical dependence. Marijuana, lsd, ecstacy, hash, mushrooms are among the most commonly mislabeled of the category. There is a clear distinction between habit forming and addictive - and it is the self control of the person using the substance. It's a distinction that I feel is often ignored or misconveyed when it comes to drugs.

Just because something is habit forming doesn't mean it should be illegal. As was excellently pointed out - people develop habits for a lot of things - sex, pornography, the internet, eating, shopping, etc. These aren't all bad things in moderation. But ask any medical professional and they will tell you that the person who claims to be "addicted" to these things truly just engages in them compulsively and has the power within themselves to stop their behavior. The person with an actual addiction suffers from an intense physical need for the substance - a need that if not fulfilled will inflict physical consequences in the form of withdrawl.

Before taking the stance that drugs should all be illegal because they have the potential to become habit forming - ask yourself how you'd feel if someone banned your ability to have sex, masturbate, eat fattening foods, or browse CS based on the same set of criteria.
I had a feeling you were only talking about the physical addiction of drugs, While most people talk about both the physical addiction and the mental/emotional habbit of taking drugs.

As for the drugs you listed.... Marijuana, Mushrooms and Hash should be legalized... definetly Marijuana... mainly because these drugs are natural and nature regulates the properties of these drugs, for the most part. LSD and Ecstay would have to be heavily controled and watched because of the chemical properties and some people mix them with dangerous stuff sometimes.

[pixiness]

LSD and Ecstay would have to be heavily controled and watched because of the chemical properties and some people mix them with dangerous stuff sometimes.

Why? Because some people can't be trusted to be responsible or just to not be plain stupid?

I can think of tons of people that do dangerous stuff with guns but we don't stop them from buying guns. Same goes for teenagers and others that decide to have unprotected sex... and scuba divers that don't make safety stops... and people shooting off fireworks on the fourth of july

Yet, oddly, I don't see the government stepping in to control the "lethal power" of guns, the "reproductive" capabilities of people, the air composition in scuba tanks, the flamibility or explosiveness of fireworks. Why? Because it's not the government's job to protect society's lowest common denominator. It's your own job if you happen to find yourself in that position.

Recreational drugs are no different. If you're going to partake in something to receive a physical or mental effect and you choose not to do it under the care of a physician (either because of your refusal to or because physicians don't administer your drug of choice) then you're also responsible enough to accept the consequences of your actions. To say the government should control your illicit substances is like saying the government should make McDonalds put less fat in their french fries. You ultimately have the decision to avoid drugs (or french fries) if you feel they're dangerous and pose a serious health risk to you.

for the record - I believe the FDA does serve a purpose for those drugs we wouldn't normally take except under a physicians recommendation or prescription. In those cases, we're trusting that someone else is providing us with the proper amount of medication. Physicians in turn need to know that the substance is consistent across millions of doses so that the desired health benefit can be delivered. If you're buying things under a different set of circumstances - let the buyer beware

[impulse]

It is mostly in lower income areas that it is used and abused. Not true at all... Crack is mainly sold from the "lower income" areas to suburbanites (sp?) Like in detroit... the buyers are from the surronding communties, the sellers are from the lower income part of the city...
i think that if it were legalized there would be mass hysteria for about a few months as everyone went to go by legal weed.
Never thought of that but it's sounds like an intelligent guess...
The problem with legalizing "bud" is the government couldn't make money off of it... if it was legalized ppl would start growing it themselves like they do now and they couldn't tax it... so they just label it a "bad" drug and make money other ways off it... (trust me I know they do :D)

[stonefaced_1]

Are you kidding? If the government legalized weed, they could tax the hell out of it and make money that way. Not everyone would grow their own.

[impulse]

think man think... everyone wouldn't but the ppl who would would be enough... you can just buy it from someone off the street LIKE THEY DO NOW and you wouldn't buy the government's dope... then you wouldn't get in trouble for having it... therefore stopping the other way for the government to make money... when it comes to the government it's not about justice and stopping crime.... it's about money...

[PsychoMike]

Why? Because some people can't be trusted to be responsible or just to not be plain stupid?

for the record - I believe the FDA does serve a purpose for those drugs we wouldn't normally take except under a physicians recommendation or prescription. In those cases, we're trusting that someone else is providing us with the proper amount of medication. Physicians in turn need to know that the substance is consistent across millions of doses so that the desired health benefit can be delivered. If you're buying things under a different set of circumstances - let the buyer beware

First off, control was probobly a poor choice of words, regulation would have been better. I believe there should be a regulation as to what chemicals and the amount of them, not to protect the consumers but to protect the businesses selling them. Cigarettes and alcohol are already treated to certin regulations as to what is allowed in them.

With the legalization of some drugs they should be treated the same way as similar items that are already legal. All-natural drugs (marijuana, 'shrooms) would be comperable to all-natural diet suplements, which have no regulations. Chemical baced drugs (LSD, X) are no different than drugs used to treat illnesses, and should be treated no different. I'm not saying that the should be give to people with perscriptions only, but treated like over-the-counter drugs.

Also, I belive with some sort of regulations, that the drug won't kill someone unless they misuse it, more stores would be willing to sell them and the outrage over the fact that they are legal will be lessened a bit.

Did anyone else know that there are 8 people in the USA who are provided with marijuana by the government?

[impulse]

Did anyone else know that there are 8 people in the USA who are provided with marijuana by the government? who?

[stonefaced_1]

think man think... everyone wouldn't but the ppl who would would be enough... you can just buy it from someone off the street LIKE THEY DO NOW and you wouldn't buy the government's dope... then you wouldn't get in trouble for having it... therefore stopping the other way for the government to make money... when it comes to the government it's not about justice and stopping crime.... it's about money...

I don't buy that...


Do you really think that small drug dealers could, or would want to compete with the federal government in selling dope? You would have the same situation with dope as you would with cigarettes. There would be a couple of major corporations that would be selling the dope, and even with the tax you would be paying less than you if you bought it off the street.

[impulse]

What? no! you would pay less from the dealer than the government and the dealer's stuff would be 10 times more potent... no exaggeration... and the government or corporations wouldn't be able to crush the small time dealers... and if it became legal more ppl would try to grow it themselves... which means more competition... Amsterdam already has this problem...

The g'ment would make money... but it'd be more hassle then it's worth...

[PsychoMike]

who?
I don't know there names, I've never met any of them. But I was flipping through channels a few weeks ago and on some talk show (I think it was Montel) they were talking about the use of medical marijuana and one of the gusts said that he was provided with marijuana by the government. He gets about 300 marijuana cigaretts a month delivered to his pharmacist, and has been for the past 25+ years.

I thinkhe said he was part of a small study the FDA was conducting concerning medical marijuana, they had noticed that there was some beneficial results but then the "war on drugs" picked up and the study was suspended, but the FDA continued to deliver the marijuana to the partisipants.

I also saw on COPS once that some guy claimed to be allowed to have the joint he had for medical. The officers responce was that there was only 8 people in the country allowed to have marijuana.

[KeyserLime]

Thats bull**** because my brother was told by my doctor that if his back problems kept up he could get medicinal weed.

[KUsubaruchick]

Thats bull**** because my brother was told by my doctor that if his back problems kept up he could get medicinal weed.

Damn! I've been going to the doctor with severe back pain for years and I all got was told to go to physical therapy (which, by the way, doesn't help)

[KeyserLime]

looks like you need a new doctor, one that could be your Buddy

[PsychoMike]

Thats bull**** because my brother was told by my doctor that if his back problems kept up he could get medicinal weed.
where are you from?, the only state I have heard of that has legalized medical weed is California. And the federal government will still arrest you for taking medical weed in California.

[KeyserLime]

Well, i am from california, but i don't see how the government could arrest you for taking Medicinal weed. If you have a signed order from a doctor they aren't going to say no and arrest you

[impulse]

if the g'ment legalized it ppl would just do this... you can't grow tobacco anywhere but you can with marijuana!http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery/749342/Picture39.jpg
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery/6436/DSCN3861.JPG hmmm? let me figure this out... (posting pics)

[PsychoMike]

Well, i am from california, but i don't see how the government could arrest you for taking Medicinal weed. If you have a signed order from a doctor they aren't going to say no and arrest you
The Federal government can because it is still againt the law in the USA to have marijuana, even for medical purposes. Last I heard California was still part of the USA.

I remember hearing of someone being arrested for having/selling marijuana in California, after the law was passed allowing it, and the federal government has him in jail for posesion of marijuana.

I'll try and find a link to a site that talks about it.

[KeyserLime]

ok, but that doesn't make any sense, that be like your doctor prescribing your own doom

[PsychoMike]

if the g'ment legalized it ppl would just do this... you can't grow tobacco anywhere but you can with marijuana!http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery/749342/Picture39.jpg
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery/6436/DSCN3861.JPG hmmm? let me figure this out... (posting pics)

That may be true, but it depends on how it is legalized.

If the law is written that it is legal to poses, and use marijuana then someone growing it in there homes will still be illegal. It could also be legal to purchas it only from certin locations, like a drugstore.

It is legal to poses alcohol but in New York there are different laws for beer, wine coolers, and malt liquor (zima, bacardi silver, smirnoff ice); and wine and hard liquor. For instance you can buy beer, etc. at a grocery store and gas station but not at a liquor or wine store, and vice versa. Also liquor stores have to be closed by 9 pm but you can sell beer until 4 am (bars can sell both until 4 am). Also the liquor laws vary from county to county as to how late liquor can be sold.

Laws are usually written very specificly and I would bet that if marijuana were made legal then it would be regulated in it's legality similer to cigaretts and alcohol. Something like it is legal to poses but illegal to grow, buy, or sell (unless you are in a specific area that has been given permission to sell).

[Kyle Katarn]

I just want to say to people that abuse drugs, you ***** up a WHOLE lot more lives than your own, and I'm living proof. Most people my age should be worrying about stuff like homework and how to 'get some' this weekend. Me, I'm wondering how I'm gonna track my dad down and kick his ass to get my great uncle's welfare check back before dad cashes it and drinks it away. He was able to steal it in the first place because my great uncle is dying of an infection. An infection which was revealed when I had to take him to the ER at 1 in the morning earlier this week. I stayed with him till 5, then got up at 7 to take another uncle for chemo (luckily someone else volunteered...would suck to survive cancer to die in a wreck from me falling asleep behind the wheel)!

Thanks to Dad's booze, I lost my mom, my home, and for a while, my mind. And I lost my innocence a long time ago. And I almost lost something more the first time I saw him drink around my then 4 year old nephew....it was all I could do to NOT walk over there and murder him on the spot.

[impulse]

damn!... Kyle sorry to hear all of that... that's messed up...

[eclipsedman]

When and if the federal government legalizes weed the major tobacco companies will be selling the best stuff pre-packaged and making a ton of money off of it. In california if you are lucky enough to have a doctor brave enough to write a prescription for weed you can still get busted by the federal government. But in Canada they are on the verge of decrimalizing it. Some of the best weed I have bought was in BC!

[Catshe]

People start using these drugs usually for a reason, its just a shame people cant get to hem first to show them other ways to enjoy life, block out bad feelings etc.

[ZombieMan]

The only drug that I don't have a problem with is marijuana. I did try it when I was 18 years old and never had any bad experiences and it NEVER lead me into any other drugs, and I never even thought about trying other things. Marijuana should be legalized for medical use or recreational use because in my opinion its not near as bad as alcohol. Anyhow, did you know that if you smoke peppermint plant that it has the eqivalent of doing what LSD does to you? Its actually suppose to be safe for your health though as the Japanese smoke it for certain healing process.

[pixiness]

Okay - the people Mike's speaking about are a group of people that are supplied Marijuana by the FEDERAL government. They are the ONLY people in this country that enjoy the protection of the FEDERAL government no matter where in the USA they decide to light up. They can smoke in front of the white house or on the street that you live whether or not marijuana is legal or decriminalized in your town, city or state.

It is part of a project called the "compassionate use" program, which began in 1978 and was cancelled in 1982. The seven patients still living were "grandfathered in" and when they die, the government will be able to emphatically deny (untruthfully mind you) the medicinal benefits of marijuana.

Four of these "fortunate eight (now 7)" underwent extensive testing in 2001 to determine the side effects of using cannabis. Neurologist Dr. Ethan Russo conducted the extensive study, which included M.R.I's scans, chest x-rays and blood work, in Montana. Russo said he was amazed that there had never been any government studies detailing the positive and negative effects of using medical marijuana. (so ask yourself what your "facts" are really based on before you go quoting government studies that don't exist)

The tests, said Russo, showed "very few adverse effects in the patients," no brain shrinkage, no hormone problems and no immune damage were evident. Their higher executive mental functions were fully intact, which, he says, is easy to prove in one patient, a South Florida resident that is a highly successful stockbroker who handles major accounts, despite a high intake of cannabis each day.


For the record - Even in states, cities, etc. where marijuana has been legalized or decriminalized, you can still face FEDERAL drug charges. Granted, it's unlikely the US government is gonna come looking to lock you up for your single joint - but they'd be perfectly within their rights (and not violating yours in the slightest) to arrest you. Even if you have a physician's note - you're not excused from FEDERAL charges because the government no longer recognizes marijuana as an acceptable medical treatment. (hence why the fortunate 7 are such a thorn in the side of the US govt.)


If you live in a state where marijuana is decriminalized (which is the technical legal status that's most common) you are allowed to possess and use marijuana and the state will not prosecute you. (Many states actually have limits on how much you can possess even with decriminalization in place). LEGAL means you can possess, use, buy, and with a license, even SELL marijuana without worry that the state government will prosecute you. Decriminalized and Legal are VERY different things. And just because it's "decriminalized" or possibly (though doubtfully) "legal" where you live doesn't mean the US Gov't can't prosecute you under Federal Statutes. If this confuses you, please re-read your middle school civics textbook that explains the balance of power between state and federal government.


All it takes is a little indpendent thinking and research to find out that the government and "concerned citizens" have largely brainwashed you to believe "all drugs are bad...mmmkay." I know these folks mean well - but it's not their place to decide your life. I feel truly bad for those like Kyle that have had their lives negatively impacted by drugs, especially when it's someone else's use that is the cause. HOWEVER - that doesn't mean that everyone must lose their freedom to choose. That's like saying because lots of people drink and drive or become violent when drunk that we should take away EVERYONE's right to drink.... oh wait, we tried that once didn't we? And it seems like it worked out just about as well as the current war on drugs.

[PsychoMike]

The Federal government can because it is still againt the law in the USA to have marijuana, even for medical purposes. Last I heard California was still part of the USA.

I remember hearing of someone being arrested for having/selling marijuana in California, after the law was passed allowing it, and the federal government has him in jail for posesion of marijuana.

I'll try and find a link to a site that talks about it.

The person I was tspeaking of is Todd McCormick. Simply put he was arrested in 1997 for possession of 4000 marijuana plants. He was using them for himself and others in southern California to treat a variety of illnesses. In McCormicks case he suffered from cancer (which was in remission) and by the time he was 10 years old he had cancer 9 times. The only drug he found that helped was marijuana. During the trial he was routinly tested for marijuana and was even put on marinol (the artificial form of THC) wich didn't work as well, and he wasn't allowed to take it around the time of the drug tests. He was arrested under federal laws and charged with growing with intent to sell a controled substance. During the trial the judge (from the very liberal 9th circut court) refused to allow the fact that California had decriminalized marijauana as a defence. Without that as a defence he had to plead guilty and was sentenced to 5 years in prison. He was released 12/26/03 but had to live in a halfway house until 5/19/04 (the end of his sentence).

Also arrested with him were Peter McWilliams, who died in 2000 choking on his own vomit, because he wasn't allowed to use medical marijuana while out on bail. Also Renee Boje who faces 10 years in prison for tending to the plants, presently she in in Canada atempting to get political refugee.

Here is a link to an article I found after McCormick's release: http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/317/toddmccormick.shtml
it is alittle tough to find an article from the time bvecause it was before most news reports were put online.

and a little background on McCormick: http://www.november.org/thewall/cases/mccormick-t/mccormick-t.html

Just google Todd McCormick and you will find more information about him.

[impulse]

Can sombody help me with something...? I need to know all the nicknames and different drugs than the usual... so if I ever hear it on the streets I'll know what ppl are talking about... I know some...

Marijuana : reefer - bud - chronic- weed - trees
Cocaine : snow -nose candy- blow- powder - coke
Crack cocaine : rocks - stones - crack - poor man coke
Heroin : "Heron" (thats how users pronounce it) - Black tar
Ectasy : X - ETC- happy pills
Mushrooms - shrooms ( I don't know much about these)
Acid - ???
Oxycotin - ???
Other - ???

Anybody ever hear of a drug called "Ice"? if so please tell me about it...

[Kyle Katarn]

Oxycontin= Hillbilly Heroin
Xanax (Alprazolam) = Mexican Footballs, I think. That's why most of our customers demand the Greenstone brand of alprazolam, because it's shaped like a football like a brand Xanax.

[KUsubaruchick]

Oxycontin= Hillbilly Heroin
Xanax (Alprazolam) = Mexican Footballs, I think. That's why most of our customers demand the Greenstone brand of alprazolam, because it's shaped like a football like a brand Xanax.

Ugh, I always hated special ordering Greenstone brand for people (it was impossible for us to get)... somehow I doubt that it makes as much of a difference as they say.

[pixiness]

Can sombody help me with something...? I need to know all the nicknames and different drugs than the usual... so if I ever hear it on the streets I'll know what ppl are talking about... I know some...

Marijuana : reefer - bud - chronic- weed - trees - Herb, shake
Cocaine : snow -nose candy- blow- powder - coke Yay, Yello (pronounce Yay-yo), people will often say they're "going skiing" when they're gonna do coke
Crack cocaine : rocks - stones - crack - poor man coke
Heroin : "Heron" (thats how users pronounce it) - Black tar Horse
Ectasy : X - ETC- happy pills rolls, beans
Mushrooms - shrooms ( I don't know much about these)
Acid - ???
Oxycotin - ???
Other - ???

Anybody ever hear of a drug called "Ice"? if so please tell me about it...


Ice is a form of crystal meth - super concentrated. Crystal meth is methamphetimines in a rock like form that you can smoke. Not to be confused with mescaline which is a psychadelic like LSD.

[equipe]

'Smack' for Heroin
'Junk' and 'Skank' for Meth

[wackmasterted]

its not mushrooms, its shrooms ;)

[Kyle Katarn]

Ugh, I always hated special ordering Greenstone brand for people (it was impossible for us to get)... somehow I doubt that it makes as much of a difference as they say.

It does in the price when they go out and sell it in the parking lot! :P

[FireStars]

i smoke pot every once and awhile with my friends and drink. My last b/f was into the hole drug things he did everything and you know he's addited to it when he picks drugs over his g/f yall want to talk about ***k up well that for me tops it off!!

[KeyserLime]

Impulse i think there are far far far too many names for weed to even begin to name all of them, (see the Ali G where he's with the drug guy to see what i'm talking about), but heres a few.

Reefer, Bud, Chronic, Trees, Herb, Weed, Pot, Cheebah, Joint, Dope, Ganga, Smoke. I only use about three of those, the others i looked up.
Here are some brand names: Stress, Juicy Fruit, (Purple) Cush, Chronic

[ZombieMan]

Marijuana : reefer - bud - chronic- weed - trees
Oxycotin - ???


Yeah, I can tell you two other names for those drugs. First off, Marijuana is also referred to as "Doug", so if someone says, "Have you seen Doug today"? Then they MIGHT be talking about weed, lol. Also, sometimes Oxycotin is called "Horsies".

[sphericthor]

Can sombody help me with something...? I need to know all the nicknames and different drugs than the usual

I've seen this site before, thought it would help you a bit

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/streetterms/default.asp

[impulse]

yeah thats a nice site... sometimes when I'm on the street ppl say things and I don't know wtf they are talking about! not good in my line of profession... but I play it off... in Detroit most ppl buy weed, heroin and crack...

[eclipsedman]

Jesus some of those words are ancient, and their are way to many that they don't know about. Its like slang its going to different everywhere you go. And weed has so many strains and nemes its impossible to know all the meanings.

[impulse]

yeah but it still helps... and you're right... wherever you go they'll be different slangs for different drugs...

In Detroit Marijuana is called weed, bud, and mary jane...

[eclipsedman]

Pretty much the most common, out here in Cali. we get the good stuff. Purple cush, white widow, blueberry bubblegum. Not many people smoke crack around here but Meth and Coke are used quite a bit. Its to bad I think if you were able to get get get good bud legally all other drug use would go down. Kind of like in Amsterdam

[Deexan]

I was a hard drug user for 3 years until new years eve last year and have to say that, despite the fact i had some of best times of my life with my friends, i would never recommend any of them to anyone.
When i started doing them it was because of of my own and my friends' love of music, we went clubbiing on a regular basis, our friendships solidified and going out and getting wasted consumed our weekends. At the time all we wanted was to do the same thing forever, or at least until we croaked...
But eventually the highs got lower and the drug use got higher, while at the same time we started getting wrecked for the sake of getting wrecked, rather than as an accompanyment for the music scene. We still had good times but i think our minds and bodies became tired and drawn and the passion for the weekend that we used to have slowly disappeared.

Good while it lasted though, but drugs are like anything else - what happens to you and your life depends entirely on the person. I dont regret any of it for a single moment and if i could go back i would change nothing but for everry action there is an equal but opposite reaction and im paying the price for it now.

By the way, no ketamine on the list! Personally, its my all time favourite drug - and one of few that i still plan on using in the near future.

[impulse]

By the way, no ketamine on the list! Personally, its my all time favourite drug - and one of few that i still plan on using in the near future.wow so you plan to use it again?... just curious but how old are you?

[Deexan]

21

[impulse]

Well the most abused drug in the world has killed a co-worker of mine... Alcohol! he died in his sleep and was found by his daughter... he was only in his fifties and he drunk alcohol like a fish drinks water! I'm still shocked over his death...

[impulse]

Are some people born to be a f****** addict?

I think some ppl personalities dictate that they will be... and no matter what you do to try and help them they will become... addicts/lockup/or just no damn good...

sigh!

(just venting about a certain family member)

[Cloud Buster]

I think it's a bit offensive and a bit of a generalization to associate all addicts with the pronoun "f******", or followed by "just no damn good".

But then again, addicts are among the people in our culture that it's still "okay" to hate.

To answer your question, yes, I absolutely think that some people have naturally more addictive personalities or physiologies.

[ZombieMan]

But then again, addicts are among the people in our culture that it's still "okay" to hate.

Hey, impulse is just doing his job by not liking druggies. He is a cop, so I'm sure that he doesn't want to hang around with bad crowds or even acknowledge them.

[NastyNas04]

I know people who do all those things except mushrooms

[impulse]

I think it's a bit offensive and a bit of a generalization to associate all addicts with the pronoun "f******", or followed by "just no damn good".

But then again, addicts are among the people in our culture that it's still "okay" to hate.

To answer your question, yes, I absolutely think that some people have naturally more addictive personalities or physiologies.

huh? how is that offensive... because in my experience every addict of the major drugs... (crack, heroin, and even alcohol) are no good lying theiving bastards....

what would you like me to say... "are some ppl born to be 'wonderful' addicts?"

yeah that's politically correct

man I hate all these tree huggers...

[halo7]

Thats right Impulse Bash those hippies!! ;)

[HeadHunter]

man I hate all these tree huggers...


hahaha :lol:

Brillient :D

[PapaRoachRules]

well if he's a cop, ;). but i know people who've done crack, weed, and drank (who hasn't) and i've done a little weed too

[Cloud Buster]

man I hate all these tree huggers...

I'm no tree hugger. I'm a drug addict. I'm also NOT a lying thieving bastard. Three years ago I had kidney stones and was given too much pain medication. I've been hooked on all kinds of opioids ever since, and it has torn my life apart. It's no one's fault but my own. If not for the immense support of the people who love me, I wouldn't be alive today.

You know nothing about me. You also seem know very little about addiction, aside from stastics and the impression of popular culture. Non-addicts are always assuming that addicts are "bad" people, when that is not always true. Addicts are victims of themselves. Addiction is a disease, a sickness, a plague upon all who are affected by it. Even if you get "clean" you can never run, you can never hide -- you're an addict for life.

(No that I've dropped that insanely personal information, I'll go back to being the somewhat quiet impersonal yet friendly guy I've tried to be on this board.)

[impulse]

I'm no tree hugger. I'm a drug addict. I'm also NOT a lying thieving bastard. Three years ago I had kidney stones and was given too much pain medication. I've been hooked on all kinds of opioids ever since, and it has torn my life apart. It's no one's fault but my own. If not for the immense support of the people who love me, I wouldn't be alive today.

You know nothing about me. You also seem know very little about addiction, aside from stastics and the impression of popular culture. Non-addicts are always assuming that addicts are "bad" people, when that is not always true. Addicts are victims of themselves. Addiction is a disease, a sickness, a plague upon all who are affected by it. Even if you get "clean" you can never run, you can never hide -- you're an addict for life.

(No that I've dropped that insanely personal information, I'll go back to being the somewhat quiet impersonal yet friendly guy I've tried to be on this board.)

sorry to hear about that... but you are an exception to the rule... you're not addicted because you are weak... but due to circumstance... no you're not the 'average' addict...

[stonefaced_1]

I usually don't like giving out too much personal information, but I have to say this. I've been a pothead since I was fifteen, and it hasn't had a negative effect on my life at all. Smoking for me has always been a way for me to get cool, calm, and collected. I finished high school near the top of my class, and went to Stanford. After which I went to Wisconsin Medical college for a year and a half. My point is, is that I could be labeled an addict just because I smoke on a regular basis. It doesn't matter that I still contribute to society. I hate being stereotyped as a dead beat loser.

[eclipsedman]

Impulse from your comments about addicts it seems you have been listening to too many meetings/convention talks about drugs. Not all people who use drugs are lying stealing druggies. Hell I know many LAPD officers who have done them themselves, I am sure you may have doctors that like to smoke herb also. I think it may be because of the area that you are an officer in. There are many upstanding citizens that use drugs on a regular basis, you would be very surprised who they are. Its good that you have alchohol as a drug, but you failed to mention the one that kills people every day, cigarrettes. Yeah I use weed every now and then but if you met me you wouldn't have a clue.

[impulse]

okay.... let me clear this up!

I said hard drugs... like Crack and Heroin... who hasn't smoked marijuana?

and from personal experience.... (I have uncles and I mean several of them who are crack/heroin addicts) and they are no good lying ass theives...

so I guess I'm talking about serious addicts on serious drugs... or those whose abuse of drugs causes them to be 'bad' people...

everybody is addicted to something...

[Cloud Buster]

Respectfully, impulse, I think your statements are narrow and short-sighted. Though I do appreciate your earlier comment that I am excluded from this, I don't think it's fair to make the kind of generalizations you're making, not about anyone or any group of people. Just because the people you're talking about are considered "bad" by most of society does not make it okay.

However, where I disagree with you the most is your poor choice of words which I do believe is offensive. To say "they are no good lying ass thieves" is bigoted and prejudicial.

[ZombieMan]

everybody is addicted to something...

I'm addicted to masturbation....Ohhh and guys don't even go and say "But your married" because truth is......Just because your married doesn't mean that you ALWAYS get sex. Ever heard of being in the dog house before? ;) :P

[impulse]

Respectfully, impulse, I think your statements are narrow and short-sighted. Though I do appreciate your earlier comment that I am excluded from this, I don't think it's fair to make the kind of generalizations you're making, not about anyone or any group of people. Just because the people you're talking about are considered "bad" by most of society does not make it okay.

However, where I disagree with you the most is your poor choice of words which I do believe is offensive. To say "they are no good lying ass thieves" is bigoted and prejudicial.

whoa dude... and respectfully I'm offended by the 'bigoted and prejudicial' statement...

for someone not to like someone on color/race/sex/age/physical ability is to be bigoted or prejudice... these things you cannot help and they are not problems... but not to like someone because they are addicted to 'hard drugs' is COMPLETELY different... this is the day and age where we all have to be careful of what we say... because everything is so sensitive... I draw the line on that...

I don't care how you feel about it... but Crackheads and Heroin addicts are the scum of the earth... So what if you don't like that statement... but all this sensitivity is flat-out sickening... next you're gonna say to call murderers and rapist a piece of trash is bigotry!... Crackheads and heroin addicts have no place in our society...

This is what is wrong with America... we all have to be so understanding of everything... F that! and thats just how I feel about it... and? I wish the day would come when I'm feeling sorry for a lowlife crackhead!

You may take this personally because of your particular situation and I've told you you are the exception to the rule... however for you to judge me without knowing my personal background on drugs makes YOU prejudice!

I can't believe that... calling me prejudice on defense of crackheads... wow...

[ZombieMan]

impulse I'm behind you 100% brother.

[eclipsedman]

okay.... let me clear this up!

I said hard drugs... like Crack and Heroin... who hasn't smoked marijuana?

and from personal experience.... (I have uncles and I mean several of them who are crack/heroin addicts) and they are no good lying ass theives...

so I guess I'm talking about serious addicts on serious drugs... or those whose abuse of drugs causes them to be 'bad' people...

everybody is addicted to something...

Ok I see now, add meth heads to that list, damn turn your head and they will rob you blind. Don't you feel at least a bit sorry for those people addicterd to drugs? What do think about certain drugs being reeleased into certain populations to destroy them (crack cocaine) In a way I feel for you because you see some of the worst people in society as a cop.

[Angelixx]

I'm addicted to masturbation;) :P

no way! me 2! ;)

[ZombieMan]

Angelixx, that rocks! Masturbation RULES!

[Angelixx]

Angelixx, that rocks! Masturbation RULES!
I know !!!! **high five**

[redman]

w...........t..................f.

[Angelixx]

w...........t..................f.
sorry im a little drunk lmao

[Mr.Matinee]

an underage drinker...fan-diggity-tastic.;)

[redman]

sorry im a little drunk lmao

hehehehe. thats makes it even funnier.

[Angelixx]

an underage drinker...fan-diggity-tastic.;)
amen!

[Angelixx]

hehehehe. thats makes it even funnier.
amen!......i swear red your siggy....is so hot!

[impulse]

sorry im a little drunk lmao

see? alcohol abuser alert!!! lol!

[Angelixx]

see? alcohol abuser alert!!! lol!
yeah i checked that one off on the poll

[redman]

amen!......i swear red your siggy....is so hot!

thats why i never get rid of it.

[impulse]

Angelixx, that rocks! Masturbation RULES!

you know what though? I think I'm addicted to sex...

no for real...

[ZombieMan]

LOL, your gonna laugh when I say that I'm drunk as well. HAHA!

[KUsubaruchick]

LOL, your gonna laugh when I say that I'm drunk as well. HAHA!

We should start a club! I am too!

[impulse]

We should start a club! I am too!


heh... I got a 40 ounze beer sitting right here... wait for me dammit...

[Angelixx]

thats why i never get rid of it.
i meant the harry potter quote.....damn **orgasmic***


yay for th drunk ppl!!

we can call ourselves the Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session!

[ZombieMan]

We should start a club! I am too!

Hey, you know...Its Saturday night, what better to do? Actually I've been drunk almost all day, constant drinking and Slip N' Slide fun! ;) Lets start a club for sure.

[Angelixx]

heh... I got a 40 ounze beer sitting right here... wait for me dammit...


**sits down next to impulse** did you say beer?

[redman]

i can safely say that if u really like a girl and u take ectasy together, it can be one of the best experiences of ur life.

it might sound sad but it was awesome. plus the chances of girl-on-girl makeout sessions in clubs increase exponentially.

[KUsubaruchick]

heh... I got a 40 ounze beer sitting right here... wait for me dammit...

*giggle* I felt so smart when I poured the vodka in the whole pitcher of kool-aid. That way I don't have to worry about mixing drinks individually, I've just got a whole pitcher of fun waiting for me in the refridgerator. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/kusubaruchick/smilies/4-cheers.gif

[impulse]

i meant the harry potter quote.....damn **orgasmic***


yay for th drunk ppl!!

we can call ourselves the Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session!

okays lets put that in our sigs or make a group on here... the SSSofSS?
the DrunkSSSSS?

[Angelixx]

okays lets put that in our sigs or make a group oh here... the SSSofSS
sweet lets!

[impulse]

the DrunkSSSSS?

[Angelixx]

the DrunkSSSSS?
yeah thats perfect....**goes to put that in siggy**

[ZombieMan]

Yeah, I'm putting "Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session" in my siggy in a minute.

[impulse]

lets... see... there it goes!

[Angelixx]

sweet...its the perfect cult....drinking beer all day!

[impulse]

hey how do I change it to red?

[ZombieMan]

We are now an alcoholic cult. Do we still have to pay taxes? ;)

[ZombieMan]

hey how do I change it to red?

Go to "Post Reply" and highlight it and then click the colors and go to red. :)

[Angelixx]

hey how do I change it to red?


in the siggy box thing there should be a thing that says where you can choose colour

[Angelixx]

We are now an alcoholic cult. Do we still have to pay taxes? ;)
no of course not ;)

[eclipsedman]

A bunch of drunks eh, yeah I got drunk and went to Magic Mountain today, I took a couple other things with me too.

[Angelixx]

A bunch of drunks eh, yeah I got drunk and went to Magic Mountain today, I took a couple other things with me too.
sweeet

[redman]

no of course not ;)

hehehehe. there was this beer and cigaretetes party in the last federal election that said they'd lower taxes on beer and cigs if they got into power. it was great.

[ZombieMan]

Wait a tic....If we are the "Drunk Super Suicide Society of the SUMMER Session". Then what happens in the winter time? Are we the "Drunk Super Suicide Society of the WINTER Session"? ;)

[redman]

how are u gonna stay warm zombie?

[Angelixx]

Wait a tic....If we are the "Drunk Super Suicide Society of the SUMMER Session". Then what happens in the winter time? Are we the "Drunk Super Suicide Society of the WINTER Session"? ;)

no then we became the canadians

[ZombieMan]

Drunk and horny = Bad combination, well sometimes...HAHA!

[rosncranz]

is there an 'all of the above' option?

[eclipsedman]

Yeah you ever heard of the saying, too drunk to ****. It's possible

[Angelixx]

is there an 'all of the above' option?
BAHAHAHAHAHA sorry inside joke lol

[impulse]

is there an 'all of the above' option?

yeah just click on them all...

[Angelixx]

yeah just click on them all...
makes sense

[rosncranz]

wow, that was a stupid question now that i think about it...my bad

[impulse]

wow, that was a stupid question now that i think about it...my bad

naw not really... you probaly are just drunk! applications for the DrunkSSSSS are still available!

[Angelixx]

naw not really... you probaly are just drunk! applications for the DrunkSSSSS are still available!
another member..score lol!

[rosncranz]

mkay, well i will sign up when i can see straight ;)

[Angelixx]

mkay, well i will sign up when i can see straight ;)
woohooo good job


now lets establish something everyone

I am the Queen of the Super Suicide Society od the Summer Session since i founded the name lol

[impulse]

woohooo good job


now lets establish something everyone

I am the Queen of the Super Suicide Society od the Summer Session since i founded the name lol

okay... I'll be... uh... drunk? lol...

[rosncranz]

woohooo good job


now lets establish something everyone

I am the Queen of the Super Suicide Society od the Summer Session since i founded the name lol


damn, i was hoping i was going to be the queen :meanie:

[ZombieMan]

Who's the puker? Definitely not me. We have to have someone who is a puker though!!! I will be ummmmm....The one who passes out in random places.

[Angelixx]

damn, i was hoping i was going to be the queen :meanie:
sorry its taken as of now lol ;)

[Angelixx]

Who's the puker? Definitely not me. We have to have someone who is a puker though!!! I will be ummmmm....The one who passes out in random places.
sounds good...i say we make HH the puker...he may not be drunk....but he can puke ;)

[impulse]

I'll be the guy who tells wonderful long silly stories when he's drunk...

[rosncranz]

i wanna be the guy that never knows where the bathroom is so he just pees in random places!

[Angelixx]

I'll be the guy who tells wonderful long silly stories when he's drunk...
excellent your my favourite then lol

[ZombieMan]

LMAO, impulse and rosn you both have to put that in your siggys now. ;)

[impulse]

Hey where is KU? she's a member too! I'll hit her up

[Angelixx]

LMAO, impulse and rosn you both have to put that in your siggys now. ;)
hahah thats aweosme lmao

[JBond]

"Where is KU?" I think you answered your own question.

[impulse]

LMAO, impulse and rosn you both have to put that in your siggys now. ;)

k there...

[rosncranz]

'tis done here too

[Angelixx]

nice lol

[ZombieMan]

LMAO, you rock impulse! So tell us a drunken story now!

[impulse]

can't dude... I'm a little too drunk...

[Angelixx]

can't dude... I'm a little too drunk...

**pulls out machete** tell..us...a damn.....wonderful...long...silly...story :angry:

[ZombieMan]

HAHAHAHA, thats the thing though. You have to be able to do it if thats your status my main man! ;)

[impulse]

HAHAHAHA, thats the thing though. You have to be able to do it if thats your status my main man! ;)

not if I'm too damn drunk... I'm now at your status... damn near passed out... (I think I drink this too fast?)

[ZombieMan]

I usually pass out when I'm telling a story, so you can start anytime...;) LOL

[KUsubaruchick]

not if I'm too damn drunk... I'm now at your status... damn near passed out... (I think I drink this too fast?)

Yeah dude, you got drunk before me, I've still only got a buzz going.

[impulse]

whats your status KU?

[Angelixx]

I need more beer

[KUsubaruchick]

whats your status KU?

I'm the affectionate drunk. I always give lots of hugs when I drink.

[ZombieMan]

My status is going to bed now because I'm about to my pass out in the random place part. Oh god, did that make any sense? L8ter my fellow cultists, ha!

[rosncranz]

haha we have literally just described all of my friends

***urinates in house plant***

[Angelixx]

haha we have literally just described all of my friends

***urinates in house plant***
ewww lol ;)

[rosncranz]

i can honestly say i have used or know someone that has used all of those things listed!

[ZombieMan]

I know a few people that have done every one of those drugs.

[Rogue]

Do I get to join the Drunk Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session? ;)

I'd venture to say out of everything -- I abuse alochol, have been known to abuse painkillers and pot. I had wild night on New Years that involved harder drugs and it was incredibly stupid of me considering my health problems. Hasn't happened since. Like I said, it was wild.

[Angelixx]

Rogue of course you can join the Super Suice Society of the Summer Session!

hmmm yeah i didnt mention i had a problem with painkillers a while back......i didnt even realise that i had one until my mom started pointing it out and i was like holy crap!

[Rogue]

I shall add it to my sig then -- I need a status though ;)

[Angelixx]

I shall add it to my sig then -- I need a status though ;)
lol i suck at making up the status;.......we need someone to be the official status of the drunks maker lol

[Rogue]

Well I put table dancer drunk because I've been known to dance on a coffee table or two when inebriated. ;)

[UnicornBlood3]

Oh I want to join since we are threadjacking about drinking.

[Angelixx]

oo Rogue i love it...i may have to join you in the dancing at some point since im the wild queen of the drunks lol

uni welcome to the Super Suice Society of the Summer Session (ims eriously waiting for someone to figure out where that is from).....what would you liek your status to be lol?

[PapaRoachRules]

I'm addicted to masturbation....Ohhh and guys don't even go and say "But your married" because truth is......Just because your married doesn't mean that you ALWAYS get sex. Ever heard of being in the dog house before? ;) :P

i'm also addicted to that and soda and other stuff ;)

[rosncranz]

haha, rogue i love that status...i cannot believe all that went on on the boards last night lol

[PapaRoachRules]

what went on on the boards last night/

[rosncranz]

edit

[rosncranz]

what went on on the boards last night/

well the drunk super society of the summer session was formed, and has recruited myself, uni, rogue, ku, zombie, and several others. halos angels was formed, and myself, angel, rogue, redman turned a two page thread into a six page thread overnight. my crush on angelixx was formed ;) oh and everyone was drunk :D

[PapaRoachRules]

ya i totally missed out cuz of my gay brother

[impulse]

need more beer...

have wonderful story...

[Angelixx]

well the drunk super society of the summer session was formed, and has recruited myself, ANGEL!!!!uni, rogue, ku, zombie, and several others. halos angels was formed, and myself, angel, rogue, redman turned a two page thread into a six page thread overnight. my crush on angelixx was formed ;) oh and everyone was drunk :D
aww **blushes how cute**

you forgot to mention me in the founding of the Super SUICIDE society of the summer session tho ;)

[HeadHunter]

can any one join this Drunk Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session or do you have to be a girl :P

[Angelixx]

can any one join this Drunk Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session or do you have to be a girl :P
anyone can join lol

HH you simply have to join..your status is the puking drunk

[HeadHunter]

anyone can join lol

HH you simply have to join..your status is the puking drunk

If i have to be Puking Drunk I dont wanna join cause i dont puke :P

[impulse]

can any one join this Drunk Super Suicide Society of the Summer Session or do you have to be a girl :P

eh? I'm not a girl...

your status can be... The Mellow Drunk you drink and get cool...

[impulse]

well the drunk super society of the summer session was formed, and has recruited myself, uni, rogue, ku, zombie, and several others. halos angels was formed, and myself, angel, rogue, redman turned a two page thread into a six page thread overnight. my crush on angelixx was formed ;) oh and everyone was drunk :D

wow... just forget about impulse! he's the can't remember drunk!

[Rogue]

haha, rogue i love that status...i cannot believe all that went on on the boards last night lol

Thanks. :)

[rosncranz]

wow... just forget about impulse! he's the can't remember drunk!

i remember ya, i just forgot before.

[ZombieMan]

Welcome to all of the newest members of the DSSS! Rogue, I dig that status, lol. I use to dance on chairs when I got drunk at small house parties, but I haven't been to one of those in awhile, lol.

[PapaRoachRules]

damn i wanna get drunk. but i am underage, oh well **** it. ;)

[impulse]

damn i wanna get drunk. but i am underage, oh well **** it. ;)

okay... your status can be "the future drunk"

[Angelixx]

damn i wanna get drunk. but i am underage, oh well **** it. ;)
dude im way under age so what!.....but I am canadian so that makes up for it i guess ;)

[PapaRoachRules]

i don't care either . i had a ;) sign. so that meant that i didn't REALLY care ;). so how old are you/

[Angelixx]

i don't care either . i had a ;) sign. so that meant that i didn't REALLY care ;). so how old are you/
ooh of course ;) im turning 16 in less than a month hoot hoot!

[PapaRoachRules]

i turn 15 in July.

PS, Impulse i like that. ;)

[Angelixx]

i turn 15 in July.

PS, Impulse i like that. ;)


aww how cute lol


July is one of my fav months...mainly because of Harry Potter and Daniel radcliffe lol

[PapaRoachRules]

the sixth comes out 2 days after my b-day.

[Angelixx]

the sixth comes out 2 days after my b-day.
jealous lol......it comes out the day of my music teachers wedding....which im singing in.....and while im singing from the hymn book....ill be reading harry potter behind the book tee hee

[PapaRoachRules]

lol thats funny

[Angelixx]

lol thats funny
lol and as the preist asks "If anyone has reason for these two to not bed wed please speak now or forever hold their peace....


all the harry potter geeks will start screaming NO NO NO THIS CANT HAPPEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

as the beloved character set to die in the next book kicks it lol

[Satiric Angel]

honestly angel......turning every thread into a harry potter related thread i dontknow how you do it..................

but anyways.yeah in my town there is nothing to do a lot of the kids here are into shrooms and pot..............but im straight edge! hahaha :) arent we tara..u alcoholic ;)

[Angelixx]

honestly angel......turning every thread into a harry potter related thread i dontknow how you do it..................

but anyways.yeah in my town there is nothing to do a lot of the kids here are into shrooms and pot..............but im straight edge! hahaha :) arent we tara..u alcoholic ;)
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lol hun i have gifts with harry potter that you cant even begin to imagine ;)

anyhoo yes im straight edged i swear.....there is nothign wrong with an occational glass of wine...the **** was the best ive ever tasted can you blame me? ;) ive had a stressful month **crosses arms*


im not an alcoholic :P

[PapaRoachRules]

satiric there is nothing but potheads at my school. and about turning every thread into something about harry potter i don't know her powers. ;)

[Satiric Angel]

:nono: :D what is this world coming to??

[PapaRoachRules]

to an end

[Angelixx]

:nono: :D what is this world coming to??

harry potter fans taking over everything

[impulse]

hmmm? thats kind of funny... more ppl know ppl who has done X than Heroin... here in Detroit I only know of 1 person who has done X... but like a skadillion ppl who has done heroin... guess it's where you're from....

[PapaRoachRules]

i know a friend who knows a friend that does all of that stuff, besides herion. i don't know if she does that.