Which will sell more; GTA San Andreas or Halo 2?

[Malitos_Sahkir]

With the news that 'San Andreas has been pushed back a week, to within two weeks of Halo 2's release, which do you think will bring more green in for each respective company?

My guess is 'San Andreas will own Halo 2 :cool:.

[impulse]

GTA cuz of the name!

[Andy_R]

Probably GTA because PS2 has a larger number of owners.
Personally I'm looking forward to Halo 2 more, but will definitely pick up both.

[spiderman_2k]

San Andreas

[HeadHunter]

GTA cause it will come out of PS2 ( the biggest Console) and PC and Xbox....wherese Halo will bo on Xbox alone....and then maybe in a year....PC

[Mr. Blonde1]

GTA will kill halo 2.

[Diablo]

GTA then Halo 2 and then MGS 3 probably coming in third *cough* ;)

[sphericthor]

I'm not too sure about GTA taking the top spot, I know that it would be my first choice but a lot of PC gamers will buy an XBOX just for Halo 2 so they don't have to wait...... I think that there are a lot more people who would play Halo than there is compared to the amount that will play GTA.

I hope I'm wrong but I expect Halo 2 to sell more

[Carnage Escobar]

GTA will kill halo 2.

Ditto.

[Imagination_13]

Halo 2 will sell more.

[jbailey84]

gotta go with Halo 2

[hei1spawn1]

GTA appeals to a larger audience...so GTA...but I still will love Halo 2

[Soulless]

San Andreas will outsell Halo 2 by a long shot.

[game354]

obviously halo2 will sell more it has more preorders than gta its almost at 1 million i forgot where i saw it though

[neo5595]

you guys are such idiots. Not only does Halo 2 have a 1,000,000,000,000 times more hype than GTA but also think of parents. Would a parent rather have their kid by a game titled GRAND THEFT AUTO with a guy and a gun on the cover or a game like Halo. Halo 2 will apeal to a larger audience. Plus Halo 2 was E3's BIGGEST event. And finally Halo 2 kicks a**!

[Drizzt240]

San Andreas, no doubt. It's on PS2, the mainstream console, so mainstream gamers as well as hardcore gammer will get it.

[Necross]

Halo 2, its got the multiplayer thing going for it

[Malitos_Sahkir]

you guys are such idiots. Not only does Halo 2 have a 1,000,000,000,000 times more hype than GTA but also think of parents. Would a parent rather have their kid by a game titled GRAND THEFT AUTO with a guy and a gun on the cover or a game like Halo. Halo 2 will apeal to a larger audience. Plus Halo 2 was E3's BIGGEST event. And finally Halo 2 kicks a**!
Half-Life 2 was E3's biggest event. 'San Andreas and Halo 2 have about the same hype, why do think I made the poll? And if I'm not mistaken, GTA III is the highest selling console game of all time, needless to say plenty of people will buy 'San Andreas.

EDIT: Not to mention GTA appeals to a larger amount of people, it has almost endless varity where-as Halo 2 is strickly a FPS / Multiplayer with alittle driving on the side.

[sphericthor]

I'm quite sure that GTA would've been one of if not the biggest event at E3 if it had been there

[Andrey83]

San Andreas will outsell Halo 2 by a long shot.


Thats what i think too

[Optimus Magnus]

I'm going with GTA:SA on this one, mainly because of the wider release base of PS2, Xbox and PC.

And trust me, no true gamer with a l33t PC will buy an Xbox simply for Halo 2, I waited for the PC version and was not disappointed, and besides, the PC version will look better because of the power of PC's over console.

[Drizzt240]

GTA will obviously sell more. I think the people that have been waiting for Halo 2 and the people that thik it will be the better game are voting for Halo 2. I myself have been waiting for both games, but the simple fact is that a parent isn't going to by Halo 2 if their child doesn't own a X-Box. More people have PS2's and all GTA a games are targetes to a broader audience. Now which game will be better? Now, that's a question we don't know yet.

[Andrey83]

^^well put!

[zamphir66]

I said GTA. I hate FPS games, they entertain me for about three seconds.

[Imagination_13]

I said GTA. I hate FPS games, they entertain me for about three seconds.

Personal preference doesn't affect how much it will sell. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif

[Boro]

gta will outsell halo2. but that doesnt mean it will be better.

[stonefaced_1]

I think that Halo 2 will sell more for a couple of reasons.

1) A lot of people were turned off to GTA after a somewhat disappointing Vice City. GTA 3 was one of the most revolutionary games of all time, and most people were expecting Vice City to be just as revolutionary. Instead, we got more of the same. San Andreas looks to me, like it can't miss. I will definately buy it, but I know people that won't. They think they got burned with Vice City and won't buy San Andreas.

2) Everyone that I know that has an x-box is going to buy Halo 2 November 9. Halo IMO was almost as revolutionary as GTA in the sense that it was a FPS that would make you think. The enemy would work together to try to take you and if you had a strategy it would work. The game was more than point and shoot. Halo 2 is more anticipated because of the massive following to the first one. Why? The multiplayer. Halo has arguably the best multiplayer mode of any game ever. Goldeneye for N64 might be better, but to me nothing beats Halo co-op. Now Halo 2 builds on Halo's multiplayer with x-box live play. I think almost every person that owns an xbox is going to buy Halo 2, I just can't say the same about GTA.

I am anticipating San Andreas more, but I think that sales numbers might disappoint.

[zamphir66]

Personal preference doesn't affect how much it will sell. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif

In my case it does: i have a very strong personality.

But seriously, I don't know too many people that like FPSs. On the other hand, I know people who hate video games, but will gladly spend hours playing VC, killing cops and whatnot.

[amiroy]

who care which one sale more?
i'll buy both :)

[Glordreen]

GTA was at E3 just only to a few select peopl. I subscribe to PSM, and they were the elect few who were taken to a room above the E3 event, and were shown a hands on preview of San Andreas. I still have the issue, but Ill have to find it. It a huge article.


Anyway, GTA will destroy Halo 2. And maybe even MGS 3 will beat Halo 2. Personally I am looking forward to MGS 3 the most.

[neo5595]

Half-Life 2 was E3's biggest event. 'San Andreas and Halo 2 have about the same hype, why do think I made the poll? And if I'm not mistaken, GTA III is the highest selling console game of all time, needless to say plenty of people will buy 'San Andreas.

EDIT: Not to mention GTA appeals to a larger amount of people, it has almost endless varity where-as Halo 2 is strickly a FPS / Multiplayer with alittle driving on the side.

GTA doesnt even have multiplayer(how can you say it appeals to a larger audience) and do you see a GTA PS2 edition? Uhh...let me think....NO! Halo is a 100 times better and has way more to offer. ex. graphics, gameplay, weapon, veichles, story, and locations blow GTA away. The two games are no match for eachother. Halo can wup GTA any day.

[neo5595]

who care which one sale more?
i'll buy both :)
Yeah. Im gonna buy both also but I think halo 2 is much better.

[spiderman_2k]

GTA doesnt even have multiplayer(how can you say it appeals to a larger audience) and do you see a GTA PS2 edition? Uhh...let me think....NO! Halo is a 100 times better and has way more to offer. ex. graphics, gameplay, weapon, veichles, story, and locations blow GTA away. The two games are no match for eachother. Halo can wup GTA any day.

GTA does appeal to a larger audience, it mixes alot of different gameplay styles and offers a huge play area, Halo is pretty much a FPS with like Malitos said, a little bit of driving thrown in.

Graphics may be better on Halo but graphics are not everything, GTA 3 and Vice City were alot more playable IMO than Halo even though the graphics werent as good.

Gameplay being better is very debateable IMO, SA will be huge with all the different things you can do in the game, Halo is pretty limited to shooting.

Your crazy if you think Halo will have more or better veichles than SA.

SA IMO will sell more, it is going to XBOX, PS2 and PC before the end of 2005, but strictly on PS2 it will sell more than Halo 2 will on XBOX, simply because it does appeal to a larger audience, plus there are more PS2 owners.

[stonefaced_1]

I think that Halo 2 will sell more for a couple of reasons.

1) A lot of people were turned off to GTA after a somewhat disappointing Vice City. GTA 3 was one of the most revolutionary games of all time, and most people were expecting Vice City to be just as revolutionary. Instead, we got more of the same. San Andreas looks to me, like it can't miss. I will definately buy it, but I know people that won't. They think they got burned with Vice City and won't buy San Andreas.

2) Everyone that I know that has an x-box is going to buy Halo 2 November 9. Halo IMO was almost as revolutionary as GTA in the sense that it was a FPS that would make you think. The enemy would work together to try to take you and if you had a strategy it would work. The game was more than point and shoot. Halo 2 is more anticipated because of the massive following to the first one. Why? The multiplayer. Halo has arguably the best multiplayer mode of any game ever. Goldeneye for N64 might be better, but to me nothing beats Halo co-op. Now Halo 2 builds on Halo's multiplayer with x-box live play. I think almost every person that owns an xbox is going to buy Halo 2, I just can't say the same about GTA.

I am anticipating San Andreas more, but I think that sales numbers might disappoint.

I'm completely wrong. I just asked the guy at EB games what there where more pre-orders for and he said GTA by like 2 to 1.

[G-UnitDicRyda]

GTA cause more people know the gta series than halo.

[neo5595]

GTA does appeal to a larger audience, it mixes alot of different gameplay styles and offers a huge play area, Halo is pretty much a FPS with like Malitos said, a little bit of driving thrown in.

Graphics may be better on Halo but graphics are not everything, GTA 3 and Vice City were alot more playable IMO than Halo even though the graphics werent as good.

Gameplay being better is very debateable IMO, SA will be huge with all the different things you can do in the game, Halo is pretty limited to shooting.

Your crazy if you think Halo will have more or better veichles than SA.

SA IMO will sell more, it is going to XBOX, PS2 and PC before the end of 2005, but strictly on PS2 it will sell more than Halo 2 will on XBOX, simply because it does appeal to a larger audience, plus there are more PS2 owners.

First of all did I ever say GTA will sell more? no I did not, so your wrong wright there. Second of all Halo 2 will come out for PC also. So I guess its not strictly for XBOX. I do thank you for agreeing with me that halo 2 will have better graphics because it does(and I never said graphics were everything) And as I said early I wonder why theres no GTA PS2 edition? And when did I ever say Halo 2 will have more or better vheicles? Exactly, I didnt. And finally GTA is fun but, you run around doing a bunch of mini missions where in Halo the location actually changes. It has something called LEVELS which GTA doesnt. Oh yeah I almost forgot. Halo 2 actually has something called MULTIPAYER (M-U-L-T-I-P-L-A-Y-E-R). So I guess Halo 2 does have more to offer and its not just some FPS with a little driving. And by the way please dont misquote me again :nono: .

Yes GTA: SA will be awesome, but its just no match for the most highly anticapated game to date which is Halo 2. Im glad to get that out of my system.

[Malitos_Sahkir]

First of all did I ever say GTA will sell more? no I did not, so your wrong wright there. Second of all Halo 2 will come out for PC also. So I guess its not strictly for XBOX. I do thank you for agreeing with me that halo 2 will have better graphics because it does(and I never said graphics were everything) And as I said early I wonder why theres no GTA PS2 edition? And when did I ever say Halo 2 will have more or better vheicles? Exactly, I didnt. And finally GTA is fun but, you run around doing a bunch of mini missions where in Halo the location actually changes. It has something called LEVELS which GTA doesnt. Oh yeah I almost forgot. Halo 2 actually has something called MULTIPAYER (M-U-L-T-I-P-L-A-Y-E-R). So I guess Halo 2 does have more to offer and its not just some FPS with a little driving. And by the way please dont misquote me again :nono: .

Yes GTA: SA will be awesome, but its just no match for the most highly anticapated game to date which is Halo 2. Im glad to get that out of my system.
What is it you mean by no GTA PS2 Edition? 'San Andreas is PS2 exclusive for a year, and then it goes to PC and Xbox. But if you mean the original GTA, it was on PS1. I don't know, I'm not really clear on what you mean by "no GTA PS2 Edition."
We know you're backing Halo 2, no one was trying to say that you said GTA would sell more, I don't know where you got that idea from.
The location does change in GTA: SA, the game takes place in an entire state. It also has levels in a sense, there are three cities that are completely different than eachother, aswell as country-sides, and the cities are like real cities ( it isn't recycled buildings around each corner ).

GTA appeals to a larger audience because alot of people won't buy FPS'. You're right in saying Halo 2 isn't just a FPS, but at it's core it is. GTA doesn't really have a genre, because there is almost limitless thing's to do. Halo was an extremely repeatitive game, theres only so many times you can kill an Alien, and from what I've seen the sequel isn't much different. GTA doesn't have that, it's completely free-roaming, go anywhere and do anything.

Saying Halo 2 is the most highly anticapated game to date is just silly, it's the most highly anticapated XBox game for sure, but most anticapated game to date? I don't think so.

We could argue this forever, and it would go nowhere because neither game can be compared to one another because they are completely different. But, we can wait for those sales figures to roll in and see who has the last laugh.

[spiderman_2k]

First of all did I ever say GTA will sell more? no I did not, so your wrong wright there.

I dont remember saying you did say that, I answered the question that this thread asks when I was talking about what would sell more.

Second of all Halo 2 will come out for PC also. So I guess its not strictly for XBOX.

I didn't say it was strictly for the XBOX.

I do thank you for agreeing with me that halo 2 will have better graphics because it does(and I never said graphics were everything) And as I said early I wonder why theres no GTA PS2 edition?

What are you actually talking about here?

And when did I ever say Halo 2 will have more or better vheicles? Exactly, I didnt.

You said it right here.

NO! Halo is a 100 times better and has way more to offer. ex. graphics, gameplay, weapon, veichles, story, and locations blow GTA away

So, yeah, you did.

And finally GTA is fun but, you run around doing a bunch of mini missions where in Halo the location actually changes. It has something called LEVELS which GTA doesnt.

If you dont think the location in GTA doesn't change then, once again it shows your unwavering biased nature towards Halo

GTA has never been built on levels, the idea is you have this city or in SA's case, 3 cities, if you dont understand the basic idea behind GTA, you should not be arguing against it.

Oh yeah I almost forgot. Halo 2 actually has something called MULTIPAYER (M-U-L-T-I-P-L-A-Y-E-R). So I guess Halo 2 does have more to offer and its not just some FPS with a little driving.

LOL, yeah it has multiplayer but so do alot of karting games, does it make them better or make them more appealing to people, no, it usually doesnt, sure multiplayer is nice, but in a game like GTA it isn't needed.

And no, it really doesn't have that much more to offer as like Malitos said, at its core Halo is a FPS with a little bit of driving, that is what it is, just because it has multiplayer, which is also FPS and shooting doesnt add anymore to the actual gameplay elements.

And by the way please dont misquote me again :nono:.

Just proved that I didn't, maybe you should read your own posts before saying things in future.

[neo5595]

I dont remember saying you did say that, I answered the question that this thread asks when I was talking about what would sell more.



I didn't say it was strictly for the XBOX.



What are you actually talking about here?



You said it right here.



So, yeah, you did.



If you dont think the location in GTA doesn't change then, once again it shows your unwavering biased nature towards Halo

GTA has never been built on levels, the idea is you have this city or in SA's case, 3 cities, if you dont understand the basic idea behind GTA, you should not be arguing against it.



LOL, yeah it has multiplayer but so do alot of karting games, does it make them better or make them more appealing to people, no, it usually doesnt, sure multiplayer is nice, but in a game like GTA it isn't needed.

And no, it really doesn't have that much more to offer as like Malitos said, at its core Halo is a FPS with a little bit of driving, that is what it is, just because it has multiplayer, which is also FPS and shooting doesnt add anymore to the actual gameplay elements.



Just proved that I didn't, maybe you should read your own posts before saying things in future.




Obvioulsy we are never going to come to an agreement. So how about this....Both games will be awesome.

[Neelsen VasqueZ]

Which will sell better? Damn. That's a tough question. Even though I have an Xbox, the chances of me buying a non-used copy of Halo 2 is 0%. I'm getting GTA 5. Altohugh I think both sale rates will be very close in numbers

[Imagination_13]

Halo 2 isn't coming out for PC. :confused: Did I miss an announcement or something?

[Patman]

killing, stealing. great. san andreas

[Malitos_Sahkir]

'Grand Theft Auto' Seen Breaking Games Sales Record
Mon Oct 25, 2004 01:58 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - When the violent video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" hits stores on Tuesday, its sales could eclipse Hollywood's most successful films, even as it draws the ire of critics.

Developed by Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. (TTWO.O: Quote, Profile, Research) imprint Rockstar Games, "San Andreas" should sell more than 4.5 million units globally in its first week, which could make it one of the top sellers of all time, analysts say.

"This will be one of the few video games to sell more copies than the preceding version," said American Technology Research analyst P.J. McNealy, noting that the game's predecessor "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" sold 12 million copies. "The expectations are 13-15 million for this one," he added.

At about $50 each, first-week sales of 4.5 million units would equal about $225 million. Should it reach 15 million units, sales of "San Andreas" would beat U.S. and Canada box office sales of the film "Titanic" by more than $100 million.

Its debut kicks off a season of blockbusters in the global interactive game publishing market, which at over $30 billion a year, dwarfs the movie business.

"San Andreas," exclusive to Sony Corp.'s (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) PlayStation 2 console, will be followed on Nov. 9 by "Halo 2," made by Microsoft Corp. (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) for its Xbox. Nintendo Co. Ltd. (7974.OS: Quote, Profile, Research) , maker of the GameCube, will have "Metroid Prime 2."

Microsoft said more than 1.5 million copies of "Halo 2" have already been pre-ordered.

VIDEO GAME VIOLENCE

"Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas's" plot revolves around a gangster returning to a city modeled after Los Angeles, to find his mother has been murdered and the police have blamed him for another killing. What follows is up to 150 hours of story-driven "gameplay" in which users can steal vehicles, maneuver out-of-control car chases, and shoot opponents.

"It is very violent (and includes) shooting cops," said Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter. "People like being the bad guy. This is a way of acting out a stupid fantasy."

Pachter adds that Microsoft's "Halo 2" is "every bit as violent, but the things that you are shooting don't look like people. They look like space suit guys."

Analysts expect "San Andreas" to stir up similar criticism to "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City," released in 2002, which was condemned by family values watchdog groups and Connecticut's U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman, an advocate of restrictions on violent games.

"Vice City" sales soared as game enthusiasts shrugged off the protests.

Like "Vice City," "San Andreas" carries an "M," or Mature, rating. According to the Entertainment Software Rating Board, M-rated games feature intense violence, contain sexual themes and strong language, and is suitable for persons over 17.

This time, the game will again benefit specialty stores Electronics Boutique Holdings Corp.(ELBO.O: Quote, Profile, Research) , and GameStop Corp.(GME.N: Quote, Profile, Research) , as well as larger retail chains such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) , which monitors the content of the products it sells.

"If you are Wal-Mart you aren't going to miss out on selling one of the biggest titles of the year," said analyst American Technology's McNealy.

A spokesman for Wal-Mart was not available for comment.

Fueled by anticipation for "San Andreas," Take-Two shares have been strong this year. But they slipped 97 cents, or about 3 percent, to $31.58 on Monday after Banc of America Securities cut its rating to "neutral" from "buy," citing a lack of other hit titles in its pipeline.

"Beyond GTA, there remain no other blockbuster releases in Take-Two's lineup," said analyst Gary Cooper in a note to clients. "We have only moderate expectations for Rockstar's releases after San Andreas (such as "Midnight Club 3" and "The Warriors")."

[Fanible]

I couldn't say for now, as Halo 2 has already had record breaking presales. However they don't exceed the previous GTA games, and San Andreas is more than likely to outsell those titles as well.

So yeah, I can't say for sure right now, but GTA:SA is looking there.

[Drizzt240]

Malitos_Sahkir just owned this thread ;)

[Tornado]

The only thing is, is that GTA: SA will probably break records because it's $50 for one copy, while the average movie ticket is less than $10. You can't compare the two.

[Tornado]

Holy freaking hell.

www.gametrailers.com

Watch the new Halo 2 extended TV commericial, it's one of the first ones under the "New Features/Trailers" list (not the picture, go to the link under the headline). Watch it. Watch it now.

[carnage4u]

Holy freaking hell.

www.gametrailers.com

Watch the new Halo 2 extended TV commericial, it's one of the first ones under the "New Features/Trailers" list (not the picture, go to the link under the headline). Watch it. Watch it now.


looks ok,
a little blocky though

[Tornado]

looks ok,
a little blocky though

The quality isn't the point of it. It's the footage that's important.

[FVD]

I don't own an Xbox nor am I even impressed with Halo in general. I found Metroid Prime to be better. But that's my opinion.

I'm gonna rent out San Andreas until the game comes out on PC. So far it's a fun game. Riding around on BMX is a lotta fun.

FVD.

[Stowe22]

Probably GTA because PS2 has a larger number of owners.
Personally I'm looking forward to <a href="halo%202" onmouseover="window.status='Halo 2'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">Halo 2</a> more, but will definitely pick up both.

I think you are very right. More people own PS2 that will be the only reason GTA might sell more. But i think alot more poeple are looking forward to Halo 2. I am just gonna have fun playing both. Its gonna be hard to choose a game to play haha...

[neo5595]

If you really want to compare the two games, then I dont think it comes down to GTA:SA vs. Halo2, but a third person role playing game vs. an fps. I personally would go with the fps. GTA still got a 10 in my book and Im very sure Halo 2 will also, but I like fps's a little better.

[Malitos_Sahkir]

If you really want to compare the two games, then I dont think it comes down to GTA:SA vs. Halo2, but a third person role playing game vs. an fps. I personally would go with the fps. GTA still got a 10 in my book and Im very sure Halo 2 will also, but I like fps's a little better.
The thread was never about comparing the two games, it was about comparing the two, most likely ( we didn't know when Half-Life 2 was out when this thread was created ), highest selling games of 2004's sales figures.

[Malitos_Sahkir]

The only thing is, is that GTA: SA will probably break records because it's $50 for one copy, while the average movie ticket is less than $10. You can't compare the two.
That's not the point, they used it in the article to demonstrate how much 'San Andreas is selling.

[Tornado]

That's not the point, they used it in the article to demonstrate how much 'San Andreas is selling.

:funny:

That actually is the point if you think about it. They're saying that GTA: SA will possibly sell more than any cinematic release ever basically. BUT, you can't say that since the two items do not have equal prices. If the two cost the same, and GTA still beat the movies out, that'd be different.

Titanic made $1,835,300,000 worldwide. Divide that by $10 and you get $183,530,000. So in other words, if every ticket price in the world is $10, over 183 million people saw Titanic. If GTA makes more money than Titanic did, it would have to sell more than 36.7 million copies. I don't think that's that fair, but, whatever.

[sphericthor]

San Andreas will win this war hands down because according to console sales figures if Rockstar meet their estimated 20 million copies, Halo 2 wont have a chance simply down to the fact that Microsoft are still targeting to sell 20 million Xbox units worldwide by the end of June 2005 therefore it would take every single one of those owners to buy a copy of Halo 2 to match Rockstars goal

[POApimp69]

halo 2 is gonna sell more cause they already got the record for most preorders so obviously more people are gonna buy it

[KeyserLime]

^^ that doesn't mean a whole lot.

I hate to say it, but GTA will probably sell more, which is sad, because that means theres a lot of kids under 15 owning it which really scares me and pisses me off.

[twaas1]

Probably GTA because PS2 has a larger number of owners.
Personally I'm looking forward to Halo 2 more, but will definitely pick up both.


same

[POApimp69]

yeah it does
are u people mental

[POApimp69]

gta the people are guessing it will sell 4 millions copies by dec 31
um yeah halo 2 is already at 2 mil and it aint even out yet
and there is probably alot more people getting it like me and i havent preordered it

[spiderman_2k]

Yesterday I reported on the amazing queues that formed in some games retailers in the UK on Friday morning, San Andreas' launch day. Today, the official UK games charts were released, with San Andreas finding its way to the top of the All Formats & PS2 charts, ahead of games like Fifa 2005, Pro Evolution Soccer 4 and Tony Hawk's Underground 2. Amazingly, UK sales monitor Chart-Track has estimated that the game sold 677,000 copies in the country alone over just two days of trading (Friday/Saturday). This brings the total sales to around £24.2million ($44.3m), and surpasses previous titles in the series like GTA: Vice City by more than double. Even more astoundingly, only 10 other PS2 titles have sold more copies in their entire lifetimes! This is great news for Rockstar North, Rockstar Games, Take 2 Interactive and of course - their shareholders.

www.gtagaming.com

Not bad at all.

[HeadHunter]

people were queueing....

i just walking into HMV.....walked into the games sention....STROLLED up to the counter with the game, paid and left....took no more then 3 minutes :P

[Drizzt240]

Looks like I may owe some apologies.

" Halo 2 earned $125 million in first-day sales, breaking records for first-day earnings of any entertainment release, including the biggest Hollywood blockbusters. In other words, The Matrix got nothing on Master Chief."

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/565/565280p1.html?fromint=1

Of course we won't know until after the holiday season.

Halo sold about 2.5 million in one day while it took GTA 9 days to sell 1 million copies.

Thought I don't think they counted the UK yet.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/565/565107p1.html

[neo5595]

Holy s**t!!!! Are you serious? Halo sold 2.5 in one day when it took GTA 9 days to sell 1 million copies?! I new Halo 2 was the better game, but I thought GTA would outsell it. Thats freakin awesome! Go Halo 2!!!!! Best game ever!!!!!

[SoundScream]

in the long run GTA will sell more but I think Halo will winthe year.

[Drizzt240]

in the long run GTA will sell more but I think Halo will winthe year.

I doubt that.

[SnoBorderZero]

Halo 2. It's all anyone talks about.

[thezez]

GTA doesnt even have multiplayer(how can you say it appeals to a larger audience) and do you see a GTA PS2 edition? Uhh...let me think....NO! Halo is a 100 times better and has way more to offer. ex. graphics, gameplay, weapon, veichles, story, and locations blow GTA away. The two games are no match for eachother. Halo can wup GTA any day.

Oh yeah....Now im convinced, knowing that it is 100 TIMES BETTER!!!

:rolleyes:

[HeadHunter]

One little thing i feel i must point out...

I aint deminishing the fact that Halo 2 sold a **** load of games but the producers of GTA SA didnt make enough copies of the games to suit demand (which i think is a total lack of forward planning) so without taking away from halo 2, it isnt a fair match up to say the least

[Drizzt240]

While, even so, games usually sell the most right when they come out.

[ForceofEvan]

Okay. None of you may realize this...but that one million was just in the UK alone. GTA:SA sold 4.5 million worldwide in comparison with Halo 2's 2.5 million.

[neo5595]

Does anyone know what Halo2 made its first day worldwide and what GTA:SA made its first day worldwide? Im getting confused with all of these number because no one is explaining what their numbers mean.

[Drizzt240]

Okay. None of you may realize this...but that one million was just in the UK alone. GTA:SA sold 4.5 million worldwide in comparison with Halo 2's 2.5 million.

No. Halo broke all records. Thanks for contributing your one post though.

[ruban]

Despite the amazing sales of Halo2, which really is a no brainer since it was the quintessential game to own on the system, right behind Halo 1 :P , I am still going to say that GTA:SA will sell more.

[Glordreen]

I am gong to make a bolg prediction and say MGS3 will sell more than both, combined, times 10!

YES THATS RIGHT!!!! (very low echoing voice) TIMES TEN!!!!!!!


But that doesnt matter because Prince of Persia 2 will sell more than all three times 17!!!!

[beyond_th3]

I will say GTA because many more people have PS2 than X-BOX and because I think Halo 2 is highly overrated. halo has sold alot of copies but because microsoft is so stingy Halo will never go to another console unlike GTA which is coming to X-BOX and PC.

[neo5595]

Halo is also coming to PC.

[Tornado]

I will say GTA because many more people have PS2 than X-BOX and because I think Halo 2 is highly overrated.

GTA is so overrated though too.

[Drizzt240]

I will say GTA because many more people have PS2 than X-BOX and because I think Halo 2 is highly overrated. halo has sold alot of copies but because microsoft is so stingy Halo will never go to another console unlike GTA which is coming to X-BOX and PC.

Good point, but I was under the impression that this thread meant it's initial sales.

[Diablo]

Everyone is gonna say everything is overrated.. where all fan boys.


Either you like Halo 2 GTA or something else, thats all it boils down to

I like GTA: SA.. Halo is cool, MGS is my bread and butter though...

as for what will sell more, I personally think San Andreas has the edge, just because of the past, who knows, I may be wrong.

[werebadger]

I hope that GTA wins, but I dunno. I hate the X Box and Halo, but alot of people love it.

[Drizzt240]

I hope that GTA wins, but I dunno. I hate the X Box and Halo, but alot of people love it.
No your not in the minority, for every person that loves an X-box someone hates it.

[HeadHunter]

no official figures yet then?

[Fanible]

Halo is also coming to PC.

Unfortunatly, they've already stated that that will probably not happen. Which is too bad, as I thought even Halo 1 was better on PC. You just can't beat PC shooters. :cool:

[neo5595]

Unfortunatly, they've already stated that that will probably not happen. Which is too bad, as I thought even Halo 1 was better on PC. You just can't beat PC shooters. :cool:
Where and when did you hear Halo 2 wasnt coming to PC?

[Fanible]

Well it wouldn't be for years if so more than likely. Microsoft had something to do with it, to increase their Xbox sales. Something also about the first one only coming out to PC in the first place because they already had it almost finished for the PC version (because that's the one they were originally designing before signing on with Microsoft), and that Halo 2 would probably not do the same.

Either way, I wouldn't expect to see it for a long time if it ever did, as Bungie has no plans to do it at the moment (hence why you won't find info on it on any game site).

[spiderman_2k]

GTA: San Andreas has regained its position at the top of the UK all formats software chart, ChartTrack reports. Facing competition from multiformat titles like Need for Speed Underground, San Andreas proves its popularity once more just weeks after smashing UK sales records when over 600,000 copies sold in just two days. Microsoft's Halo 2 suffered a sharp downturn in sales, dropping to #4 behind Vivendi's new PC shooter, Half-Life 2. With seemingly no game able to topple GTA from the number one spot, do we have a Christmas Number One already?

Cool.

[carnage4u]

GTA is so overrated though too.


well its flaws are overlooked by many, of course the super short single player mode of halo2 is forgiven by fans as well.


I think maybe both games are fun, and people should stop trying to go crazy over the issue

we all know Half life 2 is better anyway :D

[Tornado]

we all know Half life 2 is better anyway :D

No we don't.

[HeadHunter]

yes we do :P

[Tornado]

No we don't.

Need I repeat? Aren't we entitled to our own opinions? While you two may think so, you don't speak for "we" either. You speak for yourself and that's it.

I think that Halo 2 owns everything in it's path.

[spiderman_2k]

He was joking.

[HeadHunter]

YOUR WRONG>>>DAMN IT AND ME BEING YOUR BOSS MAKES ME RIGHT AND I AM RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT...

whoops...sorry i think i came over from Junglebeatz feva..

besides were just playing...no one is telling you which is the best...**cough**Halflife2 ;)

[Tornado]

Yeah, well, I take things seriously. You all should know better than to mess with me about opinions. ;)

[Tornado]

YOUR WRONG>>>DAMN IT AND ME BEING YOUR BOSS MAKES ME RIGHT AND I AM RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT...

I have no boss.

[carnage4u]

Yeah, well, I take things seriously. You all should know better than to mess with me about opinions. ;)


its ok, as long as your come to realize that your wrong on halo 2, then we all can agree on that. :P

Did i mention KOTOR 2 will be the greastest game of all time and blow your minds? :cool:

[Tornado]

1. its ok, as long as your come to realize that your wrong on halo 2, then we all can agree on that. :P

2. Did i mention KOTOR 2 will be the greastest game of all time and blow your minds? :cool:

1. No, that's not going to happen ever, mainly because I'm right.

2. Finally! Something we agree on.

[carnage4u]

1. No, that's not going to happen ever, mainly because I'm right.

2. Finally! Something we agree on.


Yep we Agree that the New Zelda game will blow all games out of the water and be the best game ever and that Halo 2 is so yestrdays news and no longer even worth talking about :omg:

[Tornado]

Yep we Agree that the New Zelda game will blow all games out of the water and be the best game ever and that Halo 2 is so yestrdays news and no longer even worth talking about :omg:

No, actually I think that KOTOR 2 will be amazing, but I never said that I thought that Halo 2 was yesterday's news. You're just being obnoxious now.

[carnage4u]

No, actually I think that KOTOR 2 will be amazing, but I never said that I thought that Halo 2 was yesterday's news. You're just being obnoxious now.


Your corrct

KOTOR2 will rock. (one of the few console games i play, but i honestly think of it more of a PC game, maybe thats why i like it)

and when did you stop liking halo 2?

[HeadHunter]

Yep we Agree that the New Zelda game will blow all games out of the water and be the best game ever and that Halo 2 is so yestrdays news and no longer even worth talking about :omg:


the new zelda will blow are minds.....so long to wait tho :(

[Tornado]

and when did you stop liking halo 2?

Dude.... just no. I never stopped liking Halo 2, so quit talking about it already.

[carnage4u]

Dude.... just no. I never stopped liking Halo 2, so quit talking about it already.


you sold your x-box in disgust now?
why would someone do that?

--this is my last post on the topic of why halo 2 lost its charm.
From here on out, i will spent my time talking about the greatest game of the year World of Warcraft in other threads

thanks for coming to this nights episode of as the world turns.

[Tornado]

Good.

[Fanible]

I have finished Halo 2. I have finished Half-Life 2.

Of the three, however, I have yet to beat GTA:San Andreas (although I think I'm close, plus I've been doing lots of the inner missions besides the main storyline missions). And while I'd hate to say it, because HF2 was pretty phenomenal, GTA:SA is probably the most fun I've had playing a game this year, let alone it being more fun, IMO, than the last two GTAs as well.

[Floating Boy]

GTA will sell more because GTA games are awesome and they appeal to a much bigger group of people. I've got Halo 2 and it rules but I'll get GTA when it comes out for xbox.

[spiderman_2k]

Well in 2004 GTA SA outsold Halo 2.

Top 10 sellers of 2004 (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050118/185981_1.html)



RANK TITLE PLATFORM PUBLISHER RELEASE ARP
DATE
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1 Grand Theft Auto: San PS2 Take II Oct'04 $49
Andreas Interactive
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
2 Halo 2(a) XBX Microsoft Nov'04 $52
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
3 Madden NFL 2005(a) PS2 Electronic Aug'04 $49
Arts
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
4 ESPN NFL 2K5 PS2 Take II Jul'04 $19
Interactive
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
5 Need For Speed: PS2 Electronic Nov'04 $48
Underground 2 Arts
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
6 Pokemon Fire Red W/ GBA Nintendo of Sep'04 $32
Adapter America
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
7 NBA Live 2005 PS2 Electronic Sep'04 $33
Arts
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
8 Spider-Man: The Movie 2 PS2 Activision Jun'04 $43
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
9 Halo XBX Microsoft Nov'01 $29
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ----
10 ESPN NFL 2K5 XBX Take II Jul'04 $19
Interactive
---- -------------------------- --------- -------------- -------- ---

[Boro]

so what are the numbers?

[Drizzt240]

December Sales:

Xbox = 1,315,067
PS2 = 1,015,741
GC = 782,164

I am shocked to see GC sales that high especially after it did so pathetic in November. Still 532,903 less than Xbox and with the PS2 and Xbox shortages while GC didn't have any shortages it is nothing to brag about but it is still a good month for GC. Maybe people were getting ready for the greatness that is RE4. It was nice seeing Xbox do better than PS2 in the two biggest months of the year.

So the two biggest months for sales of the year combined....

Xbox: N: 746,000 + D: 1,315,067 = 2,061,067
PS2: N: 694,000 + D: 1,015,741 = 1,709,741
GC: N: 350,000 + D: 782,164 = 1,132,164

Now onto the games.....

1 PS2 GRAND THEFT: ANDREAS 1,553,930
2 PS2 NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 1,044,661
3 PS2 MADDEN NFL 2005 935,719
4 XBX HALO 2 900,927
5 PS2 CALL OF DUTY: FINEST 624,341
6 GBA KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN 539,847
7 XBX NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 534,815
8 PS2 NBA LIVE 2005 519,289
9 PS2 METAL GEAR3:SNAKE EAT 486,886
10 GCN MARIO PARTY 6 W/MIC 469,014
11 XBX SW:KNIGHT REPUBLIC II 458,761
12 PS2 DRAGONBALL Z:BUDOKAI3 443,378
13 NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS 437,331
14 GBA THE INCREDIBLES 411,578
15 PS2 TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 397,517
16 PS2 JAK 3 389,683
17 GBA THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 368,012
18 XBX T.CLANCY GHOST RECON2 367,950
19 GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 334,731
20 PS2 RATCHET & CLANK: UP 315,979
21 XBX CALL OF DUTY: FINEST 314,756
22 XBX MADDEN NFL 2005 302,994
23 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 298,342
24 PS2 T.CLANCY GHOST RECON2 294,956
25 PS2 THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 291,703
26 GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP 285,988
27 PS2 ESPN NBA 2K5 285,319
28 PS2 ESPN NFL 2K5 283,535
29 GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO 270,092
30 PS2 WORLD CHAMP POKER 268,160
31 PS2 THE INCREDIBLES 265,071
32 GBA FINAL FANTASY I & II 263,635
33 GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP 246,023
34 PS2 SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 245,041
35 PS2 PRINCE PERSIA:WARRIOR 236,096
36 XBX PRINCE PERSIA:WARRIOR 224,831
37 PS2 ATV OFF ROAD FURY 3 217,349
38 GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND 214,921
39 NDS SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 201,522
40 GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS 198,793
41 GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 197,773
42 PS2 SW: BATTLEFRONT 196,667
43 GCN THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE 193,650
44 GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR 192,852
45 PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 2005 180,833
46 XBX NBA LIVE 2005 178,885
47 PS2 KILLZONE 171,062
48 GCN THE INCREDIBLES 169,537
49 PS2 JAK II 164,673
50 PS2 EYE TOY: ANTIGRAV 162,728
51 PS2 SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS 162,179
52 PS2 TIGER WOODS PGA 2005 161,052
53 XBX ESPN NFL 2K5 159,994
54 PS2 GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT 159,789
55 GCN NEED SPEED:UNDRGRND 2 158,473
56 XBX ESPN NBA 2K5 157,968
57 PS2 SPONGEBOB: BATTLE 156,166
58 PS2 GRAND THEFT AUTO:VICE 155,122
59 PS2 LEMONY SNICKET'S 155,106
60 GBA NAMCO MUSEUM 154,453
61 XBX HALO 152,976
62 GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE 152,962
63 PS2 X-MEN: LEGENDS 151,875
64 PS2 SOCOM II: NAVY SEALS 151,293
65 PS2 NEED SPEED: UNDERGRND 151,220
66 PS2 DDR EXTREME KONAMI OF AMERICA 150,935
67 PS2 NCAA MARCH MDNSS 2005 150,749
68 PS2 ACE COMBAT 5: UNSUNG 149,082
69 GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE 146,104
70 GCN MADDEN NFL 2005 143,677
71 PS2 ESPN COLLEGE HOOP 2K5 142,973
72 GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER 141,663
73 PS2 NFL STREET 2 139,015
74 GBA MARIO PINBALL LAND 137,152
75 XBX TOURNAMENT PAINTBALL 136,545
76 PS2 LORD RINGS: THIRD AGE 136,466
77 XBX TONY HAWK UNDERGRND 2 133,409
78 PS2 AMERICAN CHOPPER 132,811
79 GBA THAT'S SO RAVEN 131,200
80 XBX SW: KNIGHTS REPUBLIC 128,600
81 PS2 RATCHET & CLANK:GOING 128,475
82 PS2 SLY 2:BAND OF THIEVES 128,377
83 GBA LEMONY SNICKET'S 128,159
84 PS2 SIMPSONS: HIT & RUN 128,145
85 GBA SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 128,067
86 PS2 SHREK 2 126,364
87 GBA LIZZIE MCGUIRE 2 122,320
88 GCN DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS 121,574
89 XBX FABLE 121,301
90 PS2 MORTAL KOMBATECEPTN 121,207
91 XBX HALO 2 LIMITED ED 120,367
92 XBX SW: BATTLEFRONT 119,573
93 GBA SHREK 2:BEG FOR MERCY 118,996
94 GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION 117,247
95 PS2 TONY HAWK UNDERGROUND 116,770
96 GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC 116,560
97 XBX GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT 116,494
98 PS2 KINGDOM HEARTS 116,399
99 GCN SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 113,896
100 PS2 THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY 113,291

Guess Halo 2 Limited Edition really was a limited edition to drop to 120,367. I figured it was just a way to make extra money calling it a limited edition when they would not really be limited :lol:

So Halo 2 ended up with 4.32 million and GTA: San Andreas ended up with 3.59 million in 2004. I doubt they are not the two best selling games of the year. Even though there are so many better games that should sell better.

[PapaRoachRules]

GtA. im surprised that NFSU 2 beat Halo though

[Drizzt240]

Halo 2 sales have gone up since then.

I believe it's at number 1.