Nintendo DS VS. PSP

[neo5595]

Nintendo DS
Price- $130
Game Price- $20 - $40
http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/nintendo_ds_7.jpg
Nintendo DS specs

Dual Screens: Two LCD screens offer one of the most groundbreaking game-play advances ever developed: experiencing a game from two perspectives at once. Imagine the possibilities. In a racing game, drivers might see their own vehicle's perspective on one screen and an overall track view on the other. In a role-playing game, the action could take place on the first screen while the second provides a reference for a player's tools inventory. Game play also could use both screens at once, offering a giant boss for heroes to defeat. In the future, games could be created allowing users to play games on one screen while text messaging other DS users on the other. Each 3-inch screen can reproduce a true 3-D view and is backlit to assure comfortable play in any lighting condition.

Touch Screen: The lower screen will offer something never before provided by any game device: PDA-like touch capabilities. Players no longer have to rely on just buttons to move characters or shift perspectives. They can navigate menus or access inventory items simply by touching the screen with stylus or fingertip. A software-based keyboard might even allow the screen to be used as an input center for games and messaging. The possibilities are limited only by developers' imaginations. The screen will have a tougher film cover for durability, and will come with a stylus.

Microphone: An available microphone port means that in the future, players might need only to tell their games what to do. DS software could identify everything from voice commands to hand-clapping. Players might be able to move their characters simply by telling them which way to go. The voice capabilities also could allow gamers to chat with one another over the Internet while playing.

Wireless: DS users will be able to connect with a local wireless network of up to 16 players. Nintendo's wireless range is 30 to 100 feet, depending on circumstances; multiple users can play multiplayer games using just one DS Game Card. It assures high response rates required for real time game play, and will make use of both IEEE 802.11 and Nintendo's proprietary communication protocol, which provides low battery consumption. Players will be able to chat and play games without any connecting cords, completely untethered. The DS technology also provides for a wireless LAN connection, which could allow a theoretically infinite number of players to connect at a hot spot and compete at a central game hub on the Internet, even if they're thousands of miles apart.

Wireless Game Sharing: If software developers desire, multiple players can compete in wireless games, even if only one person has a game card inserted. Players could also test-play games for themselves as long as they stayed connected.

3-D: With the newly developed graphics engine, DS can reproduce impressive 3-D renderings that can surpass images displayed on the Nintendo® 64. Games will run at 60 frames per second, and allow details like fog effects and cel shading.

Controls: Touch screen, embedded microphone for voice recognition, A/B/X/Y face buttons, plus control pad, L/R shoulder buttons, Start and Select buttons.

Sound: The 16-channel sound allows for greatly expanded use of voices and music, and a richer, more immersive game experience. Stereo speakers allow for virtual surround sound and a plug for headphones transmits stereo sound.

Battery & Power Management: Lithium ion battery delivering 6 to 10 hours of play on a four-hour charge, depending on use. The battery is rechargeable and the unit features a low-energy-consumption design. The DS also has Power Management functions of Sleep mode and Standby mode. In Sleep mode, players can stop and resume game play whenever they like. AC adapter.

Processing: The unit will run on two processors, one ARM9 one ARM7.

New Media: For its compact cards, the unit uses newly developed semiconductor memory, which allows for lower cost, shorter manufacturing time and memory capacity of more than one gigabit of information.

Dual Slots: Nintendo DS makes a vast library of Game Boy® Advance games readily available in single-player mode. Developers could find ways to make new connections between GBA games and DS games. The GBA port could be used for new hardware, enormously expanding the functional expandability of the DS.

Languages: English, Japanese, Spanish, French, German, Italian.

Other Features: Embedded Pictochat software that allows up to 16 users to chat at once; embedded real-time clock; date, time and alarm; touch-screen calibration.

Color: Platinum and Blue


VS.


PSP
Price- $250
Game Price- $40 - $50
UMD Movie Price- $20 - $30

http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/sonyPSP1.jpg
PSP specs

Color:
Black

Product Code:
PSP-1001K

Dimensions:
Approximately 6.7 in (W) x 2.9 in (H) x .9 in (D)

Weight:
Approximately 280g / .62 lbs (including battery)

CPU:
PSP CPU (System clock frequency 1 - 333MHz)

Main Memory:
32MB

Embeded DRAM:
4MB

Display:
4.3 inch, 16:9 Wide screen TFT LCD
480 x 272 pixel, 16.77 million colors
Maximum luminance 180 / 130 / 80cd/m2 (when using battery pack)
Maximum luminance 200 / 180 / 130 / 80cd/m2 (when using AC adaptor)

Sound:
Built-in stereo speakers

Main Input/Output:
IEEE 802.11b (Wi-Fi)
USB 2.0 (mini-B)
Memory Stick Duo™
Infrared Port

Disc Drive:
UMD Drive (Read only)

Main Connectors:
Memory Stick Duo™ Slot
USB connector
DC IN 5V connector
Headset connector

Keys/Switches:
Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left)
Analog Stick
Enter keys (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square)
Left, Right shoulder buttons x 1
START button, SELECT button, HOME button x 1
POWER/HOLD switch x 1
Display button, Sound button, Volume +/- buttons x 1
Wireless LAN switch (ON/OFF) x 1
OPEN latch (UMD) x 1

Power:
Lithium-ion Battery
AC Adaptor

Profile:
PSP Game
UMD Audio (profile name TBD)
UMD Video (profile name TBD)

Codec:
[Video]: "UMD": H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Main Profile Level3
[Video]: "Memory Stick": MPEG-4 SP,AAC
[Music]: "UMD": linear PCM,ATRAC3plus™
[Music]: "Memory Stick": ATRAC3plus™,MP3(MPEG1/2 Layer3)

Security:
(Encryption) 128bit AES (Copyright protection technology) MagicGate™

Access control:
Region, Parental Control

Wireless communications IEEE802.11b:
Infrastructure mode
Ad hoc mode (connection up to 16 consoles)

PSP Value Pack supplied accessories:
AC adaptor
Battery pack
Memory Stick Duo (32 MB)
Headphone with remote control
Soft case and cloth
UMD In-pack Sampler

[l)arKnight.]

i agree.

[Boro]

ofcourse you're going to go w/ the ds, all i had to do was scroll down the page and see half the effort on the psp section. you dont even have a picture.


anyways i'll be going with the DS.

[neo5595]

I tried for 3 hours trying to get a picture but it wouldn't show up.

[Master Chief]

I'll be getting the DS right away...maybe the PSP later on when it's cheaper. It's hard to say right now though.

[neo5595]

EDIT

[Drizzt240]

Where's the poll?

Anyway, Nintendo has experience, I'll stick with them.

[neo5595]

Where's the poll?

Anyway, Nintendo has experience, I'll stick with them.
I agree. Nintendo is known for reliable hardware and great games. For example just look at the Gamecube. Its the only one out of the three systems that wont burn out. And I forgot to do a poll but I'd say at this point its 3-0 Nintendo DS

[Malitos_Sahkir]

PSP, I can watch Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children on it, and play Metal Gear Ac!d.

[Starwars411]

I think I'll get PSP when I have enough money.

[ruban]

I definitely won't be getting the PSP.

if the DS titles impress me with their use of the second screen & stylus then
I wouldn't hesitate on getting it.

[neo5595]

Here are some cool clips that will show you some of the gameplay on the DS.
clip 1 (http://www.nintendo.com/ds/movies/video_ds_sizzle_tech_480.jsp)
clip 2 (http://www.nintendo.com/ds/movies/video_ds_software_480.jsp)

[Mr. Frodo]

I don't think ill be buying any but if i did it would definatly be the PSP, Nintendo can't rule Hand Helds forever.

[Crow T. Robot]

i like the ds best but the psp is good because it will keep nintendo on its toes. Besides, online mario kart and smash brothers anyone? How can u resist.

[neo5595]

I know what you mean. Its sweet.

[ZombieMan]

I'm definitly going to get the PSP! I think its gonna kick major ass!

[The Legend Link]

Testing...

[neo5595]

I'm definitly going to get the PSP! I think its gonna kick major ass!

Not nearly as much as the DS will. Check out these clips and you'll know what I mean.

clip 1 (http://www.nintendo.com/ds/movies/video_ds_sizzle_tech_480.jsp)
clip 2 (http://www.nintendo.com/ds/movies/video_ds_software_480.jsp)

[Crow T. Robot]

the one thing that the PSP has over the DS is an analog control stick. you have to give it that

[hei1spawn1]

I would buy the PSP but I have a nagging feeling in the back of my head that the DS is going to be a disatser. I hope I'm wrong though because Nintendo doesnt need another screw up in their family

[neo5595]

the one thing that the PSP has over the DS is an analog control stick. you have to give it that
Actually it doesnt have an analog stick. that round thing under the arrows is the little speaker.

[hei1spawn1]

Actually it doesnt have an analog stick. that round thing under the arrows is the little speaker.


Nope its an analog stick. I remember thinking that too. It wasnt till a magazine gave a detailed layout of the machine that I realized that it was an analog stick

[spiderman_2k]

Yep I have seen a video of it in action and it is an analog stick/pad, it moves like an analog stick but doesnt stick out like one, so they have called it an analog pad but it is basically an analog stick.

[Crow T. Robot]

i wonder how durable that analog pad is. its 300 dollars for a replacement if it breaks

[neo5595]

Nope its an analog stick. I remember thinking that too. It wasnt till a magazine gave a detailed layout of the machine that I realized that it was an analog stick
Oh. Well if thats the analog stick then where are the speakers. If their in the back then that will suck. At least the DS has 16 channel sound with the speakers in front where the PSP has 7 channel in the back. The DS defineitly has sound quality on their side.

[Crow T. Robot]

is there a release date yet for the ds besides the general fall 2004?

[neo5595]

is there a release date yet for the ds besides the general fall 2004?
not right now, but I think its going to be something like late November or early December. All Nintendo is saying is it will be out by the end of the year.

[Crow T. Robot]

ok thanks

[FVD]

I'm definitely getting the DS. I just pray that Sony won't take the title when the PSP comes out. The PSX/1/2 has already established itself as the king of the consoles thus far and the last thing I want to see is Nintendo losing their crown in the handheld market. At least Nintendo always comes up with something innovative.

So it's the DS for me. I'll probably look at getting the PSP just for certain games.

FVD.

[Crow T. Robot]

I'm definitely getting the DS. I just pray that Sony won't take the title when the PSP comes out. The PSX/1/2 has already established itself as the king of the consoles thus far and the last thing I want to see is Nintendo losing their crown in the handheld market. At least Nintendo always comes up with something innovative.

So it's the DS for me. I'll probably look at getting the PSP just for certain games.

FVD.

hey if sony can put out a better product at a competitive price, they deserve to dominate the handheld market. In any case, a little competition will make both companies better

[superxero88]

I'd get both. If I had to only get one, I'd get the DS though.

[neo5595]

DS leads 9-5

[Boro]

hey if sony can put out a better product at a competitive price, they deserve to dominate the handheld market. In any case, a little competition will make both companies better


too bad that never happened in the console race....

[thezez]

PSP Hands Down, especially when I heard that Gran Turismo Mobile is basically a port of Gran Turismo 4, mmmm pretty graphics. I've already put my name down for one!

[Crow T. Robot]

too bad that never happened in the console race....


did too. Gamecube is way better than N64 was

[impulse]

man... what a cool thread... Imma have to look into this stuff... but the nintendo does seem like a better deal... that 300 is just too much!

[Boro]

did too. Gamecube is way better than N64 was


are you joking me? you completely misunderstood what i said. i was referring to the comparison of sony's product with microsoft's and nintendo's product.

[Crow T. Robot]

are you joking me? you completely misunderstood what i said. i was referring to the comparison of sony's product with microsoft's and nintendo's product.


oh ok. well i was making the point that nintendo's product improved due to pressure from competitors like sony.

[Patman]

i didnt like this post lol

[Patman]

Yep I have seen a video of it in action and it is an analog stick/pad, it moves like an analog stick but doesnt stick out like one, so they have called it an analog pad but it is basically an analog stick.

didnt like this one either

[spiderman_2k]

What an informed opinion....:rolleyes:

[Patman]

PSP Hands Down, especially when I heard that Gran Turismo Mobile is basically a port of Gran Turismo 4, mmmm pretty graphics. I've already put my name down for one!

your a very nieve person, spending $300 on one game that isnt as good as you think it is. :nono

[hei1spawn1]

i tell you the psp sucks and thats all their is to it i want someone to post against me so i can crush them. :meanie: :meanie:

go away

[thezez]

i tell you the psp sucks and thats all their is to it i want someone to post against me so i can crush them. :meanie: :meanie:

I see that you have 3 posts...hmmm.... If you've come to the comingsoon boards only to "crush" people, you are going to have a very hard time here.

So in short, yes, go away.

[Patman]

I go with the Nintendo ds. Hands down no competition. Here are my reasons:
1.Sony sucks.
2. Playstation sucks.
3. Playstation Fanboys suck.

Ok now that I got that off my chest here are the rational reasons:

DS- has two screens one main screen and one that is a touch screen that comes with a stylus to basically instant message people with unlimited possibilities for games that now have the option to play on two screens at once. Short version: 2 screens, 2 cool.
vs
PSP- well the psp has A screen, and its not a touch screen. Ok we haven’t seen this before. Gives gamers a whole new experience playing on one screen. . . . WOW! I am awe-inspired. I’m sure it bedazzled every one else to. lol
Ok let’s look at the design.
DS- the Nintendo ds has a new sleek design apart from the tacky old one. Its sleek design allows for easy carrying and fits in your pocket. It has the clam shell look not just because it looks cool, but for a reason. When your done playing you simply fold it up and you don’t have to worry about scratching the screens up like the ancient ones Nintendo used to make…. and the psp sony is making now. Its new futuristic sleek design sets it apart from all the other handhelds on the market.
vs
PSP-Ok ill give the psp its props it looks really familiar, hmmm could it be it looks exactly like the freaking first gameboy advance except longer? Oh wait I’m wrong, this one is black. C’mon people if you like it for its “sexy” design, save $275 bucks and buy a freaking gameboy advance.

DS- Lets look at cost. The ds is supposed to cost between 100-200 dollars. I don’t need to say any more.
vs
PSP- The psp is supposed to cost about $300$ the price of 2 playstation2’s. Me, I’d take the playstations.

DS- How about what they can do. The ds can instant message other ds’s with the WiFi technology now being used. It has 2 screens. It has a touch screen. It is backlit. Awesome speakers that are an upgrade from a regular stereo or cd players. Microphone: An available microphone port means that in the future, players might need only to tell their games what to do. DS software could identify everything from voice commands to hand-clapping. Players might be able to move their characters simply by telling them which way to go. The voice capabilities also could allow gamers to chat with one another over the Internet while playing. Did I mention it has 2 screens? DS users will be able to connect with a local wireless network of up to 16 players. Nintendo's guaranteed range is 30 feet. Wireless Game Sharing: If software developers desire, multiple players can compete in wireless games, even if only one person has a game card inserted. Players could also test-play games for themselves as long as they stayed connected. All of this not to mention it comes with a rechargeable lithium battery. All this plus more I left out and is yet to be revieled. <like the mysterious port that they wouldn’t tell anyone anything about>.

vs
PSP- The psp can, well it can do what the game boy advanced did 3 years ago. The only difference I see is the analog stick and a minidisk that failed in their other try to make it successful <the minidisk> that is a lot less durable than a cartridge for the ds. Oh and it has a little better graphics than the gameboy advanced, but not by much.

DS-The Games. Ds has a wide variety of games that I have been looking forward to. Im not going to list them. Just look em up.
vs
PSP- The psp has about a million garbage games and the few good ones it does have the Nintendo ds also has, plus better ones. So I go with quality, rather than quantity. But if you think of it the other way around the Nintendo ds can also play gameboy advanced games so that more than doubles the psp’s game list to start with.

I love debate so all of you psp losers post something to defend your beloved system.


:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[hei1spawn1]

Short version: 2 screens, 2 cool.



yet another reason for you to go away

[neo5595]

yet another reason for you to go away

I actually agree with that so maybe your the one that needs to leave.

[thezez]

What a lovely thread this has become.

I just have to ask Patman? why are people who like PSP 'losers'?
Are they losing out? (besides losing an extra screen and what have you)
Or is it just in the offensive form of the word.
Surely people are allowed to have thier own opinions on the matter, and I don't think its anyones place to try and rob them of opinion, much less to say that thier opinion is the wrong one.
This thread actually brings back memories of another forum I am signed onto. It was a Matrix Vs LOTR thread, ahhh...opinions are great

[thezez]

plus, until they come out, who knows which is going to be 'better'?

The PSP's framerate could plummet horribly, and the DS's Screens could break easily. We will just have to see

[Patman]

yet another reason for you to go away


im new. whats a reelie? and how and where do you vote?
im new, but im not stupid, why do you keep repeating yourself? do your parents listen to you when you talk? do you feel you need to say things over and over befor you are heard? i will bring some spice to this otherwise dull group if i decide to stay. and by the way, unless you have the power to remove me, i would quit telling me to leave (because it only makes me want to stay more, im hard headed) and work on your grammer which is simply atrocious. hi amy

[Patman]

I actually agree with that so maybe your the one that needs to leave.

what is it with you people and leaving? im not going any where. :) :angry:

[Patman]

What a lovely thread this has become.

I just have to ask Patman? why are people who like PSP 'losers'?
Are they losing out? (besides losing an extra screen and what have you)
Or is it just in the offensive form of the word.
Surely people are allowed to have thier own opinions on the matter, and I don't think its anyones place to try and rob them of opinion, much less to say that thier opinion is the wrong one.
This thread actually brings back memories of another forum I am signed onto. It was a Matrix Vs LOTR thread, ahhh...opinions are great

I will tell you thezez. which do you prefer over the two to start with? i have a real good sence of humor so i can deal with people like you. (check my profile) And yes they are losing out, if you read my article at all you would know that they are losing out on $300, decent games, and the total gaming experience. I agree with you that people can have their own opinion, as long as it is the same one as mine, lol, or, unlike you they can back up their opinions in a simple debate enstead of accusing them of "robbing" their opinions. sounds like baby needs a bottle. :P Enstead of tactfully replying in a manner that doesnt take a side at all. thats no fun. words dont hurt. and if i hurt you with my big bad words i am truly sorry. ;)

[Patman]

plus, until they come out, who knows which is going to be 'better'?

The PSP's framerate could plummet horribly, and the DS's Screens could break easily. We will just have to see

i wish you would pick a side already or you could just keep quoting the obvious. :)

[Patman]

c'mon guys lets get a real debate going here. not just an informative waste of time. thats what this site is for.

[hei1spawn1]

Just dont be a jackass. You can have your own opinion but dont slam others for having theirs.

[neo5595]

here. I have an opinion. NINTENDO DS RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thezez]

i wish you would pick a side already or you could just keep quoting the obvious. :)

I already took a side, you called me nieve

[Boro]

lol at the fanboys

[neo5595]

I think we are all taking this a little too seriously. I know its a debate but make sure what your debating about is the DS and PSP.

[thezez]

Indeed, but lets just make sure it is a proper debate, "Sony sucks" is not a debate

[hei1spawn1]

"Sony sucks" is not a debate


Well said

[Patman]

Just dont be a jackass. You can have your own opinion but dont slam others for having theirs.

fine. tell me, how do you make an avatar.

[Patman]

hie1spawn1 are you on now?

[hei1spawn1]

yea

[Patman]

Indeed, but lets just make sure it is a proper debate, "Sony sucks" is not a debate

point well made. so how about this enstead. i like nintendo alot better than sony.

[Patman]

yea


so where do you stand in this contunuating argumentative debate?

[Patman]

here. I have an opinion. NINTENDO DS RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


im right there with you buddy, who agrees with me that the psp looks way to much like the original game boy advanced and that design in itself is flawed?

[hei1spawn1]

I like the fact that you can watch movies on the psp but I am a PC guy and I'm not gonna buy either

[Boro]

you can only watches movies produced in the umd format. its not like there will be a decent library availible. at this time it would be cheaper to buy a portable dvd player with a seven inch wide screen.

[neo5595]

tell me, how do you make an avatar.
Your at the wrong thread buddy.

[Patman]

Your at the wrong thread buddy.

you know, the little freaking picture on the side of the screen under your name. isnt that what its called? just got a computer ok. cut me a break. how do you put a picture there? i cant get anyone to help me man. :waa: :waa:

[Patman]

I like the fact that you can watch movies on the psp but I am a PC guy and I'm not gonna buy either


and it dosnt have enough battery power to watch a decent movie either. lastly who would want to watch a two hour movie on a 4 inch screen? gives me a headache just thinking about it. :mad:

[Boro]

a umd can barely fit a 2 hour movie.

[neo5595]

you know, the little freaking picture on the side of the screen under your name. isnt that what its called? just got a computer ok. cut me a break. how do you put a picture there? i cant get anyone to help me man. :waa: :waa:
ok. ok. Once you have 300 posts (which right now you have 16) you go to your user CP and go to avater. Then you tpye the address for your avater. If you want anymore help I sugest you go to the comments and support forum, not the video game forum :nono: .

[Patman]

ok. ok. Once you have 300 posts (which right now you have 16) you go to your user CP and go to avater. Then you tpye the address for your avater. If you want anymore help I sugest you go to the comments and support forum, not the video game forum :nono: .

alright, thanks. can you imagine having a pumpkin for a head? you could'nt get a job. i mean try being an accountant, you'd be like "can i do your taxes?" and they'd be like "no! cuz you have a pumpkin for a head! im going to someone else who doesnt have a pumpkin for a head!" then you'd be all sad and get a job at taco bell. you'd be like "can i take your order sir?" and they'd be like "no!, cuz you have a pumkin for a head and its freaking me out!" :omg: :confused:

[Patman]

a umd can barely fit a 2 hour movie.

i like the fact that the nintendo ds can play gameboy advanced games.

[Patman]

does anyone have an exact release date yet? or an exact price?

[Patman]

for the nintendo ds? they probably wont give either for the psp until next year.

[Patman]

did anyone hear about the mystery port?

[Boro]

i like the fact that the nintendo ds can play gameboy advanced games.



awesome. too bad that has nothing to do with my previous post.

[Patman]

awesome. too bad that has nothing to do with my previous post.

so how come im the only one talking besides little meager tidbits from you?

[Patman]

any one that wants to e-mail me is welcom to lickedyeyes@aol.com

[neo5595]

did anyone hear about the mystery port?

I heard it was for a microphone for things like voice commands for the games in the future. That would be sweet.

[Andy_R]

I don't get why this is even a debate right now.
Can't we wait until both systems are out and we have played some of the games before we start forming opinions on which is better?

[neo5595]

I don't get why this is even a debate right now.

I guess its more of a discussion instead of a debate. But you can still talk about which your looking forward to more or maybe which you plan on getting. There also hasnt been a thread on this yet.

[ruban]

I heard it was for a microphone for things like voice commands for the games in the future. That would be sweet.

Yes, it is (http://ds.ign.com/articles/543/543419p1.html)

[neo5595]

Yes, it is (http://ds.ign.com/articles/543/543419p1.html)
I knew it.

[Patman]

its only speculation you cant be sure yet. although that is mostlikely what it is.

[Patman]

does the psp have ANYTHING that the ds doesnt have?

[Patman]

how about the price? is it $150 or $200? has anyone heard anything?

[Patman]

"When contacted regarding this analyst report, Nintendo representatives stated, "Nintendo does not comment on speculation."

[Patman]

A lot of annoying Sony loyalists keep saying how the DS is a "gimmick" because of the touch screen. Is that all they can think of. Tsk, tsk. Sony but-kissers make horrible arguments. Especially considering the PSP is the REAL gimmick!

For one thing, the PSP plays movies (not DVDs) and music (not MP3s). Can you get any more gimmicky than that? They're trying to appeal to the general public by making their system support such useless features. Why are they useless? Because it is pointless to buy a UMD for a movie. Buy it for a DVD player. And as for music, you have a CD player. No need to pay so much money on expensive UMDs. Sony's just pulling another gimmick out of their hats. The PSP is not a gaming system, it's a multi-media device. Now THAT is a huge gimmick.

The DS will change how we play games. The PSP will simply support useless features for three times the cost. I want to use touch-sensitive features and voice recognition, which is what the DS supports. And the PSP ports will be horrendous, by the way. I mean, GT4? Who cares? Get it for PS2. It'll be better quality. The DS may have ports, but they're something new. They have improved graphics and new added-in features...not to mention the online play, something Nintendo has never used. Most of the PSP games are more than likely to be ports of the PS2 (I estimate around 3/4 of them.) The DS will have a lot of new titles.

This is mostly my opinion, though. I just really think the PSP is a potential failure. 2.5 hours of battery life? PS2/PS1 ports? Please. Do something new, Sony. Or maybe not. If Sony keeps up whatever they're doing, they'll fall behind, leaving Nintendo with victory!

[Patman]

this is just my opinion, tell me if im rong

[Patman]

seems like no one talks on here but me

[Patman]

is there anyone who likes sonies psp better on here?

[Patman]

or is everyone on the same side here?

[hei1spawn1]

There is an edit button you know. Posting almost 10 times in a row will get you into trouble

[Boro]

you're going to get banned if you keep this up.

[Patman]

There is an edit button you know. Posting almost 10 times in a row will get you into trouble


sorry, i didnt know. im still new at this. i thought the more posts per thread the better. sorry :( :waa:

[Patman]

you're going to get banned if you keep this up.

sorry. i apologize

[Patman]

I don't get why this is even a debate right now.
Can't we wait until both systems are out and we have played some of the games before we start forming opinions on which is better?

so as of right now which one do you like better?

[hei1spawn1]

sorry, i didnt know. im still new at this. i thought the more posts per thread the better. sorry :( :waa:


Thats why you are told to read the guidelines when you sign up ;)

[neo5595]

sorry, i didnt know. im still new at this. i thought the more posts per thread the better. sorry :( :waa:
Are you sure your not doing this to get 300 posts to get an avater? Anyway, I like where your going with the DS and PSP. Although I already didnt like the PSP you got some pretty good points.

[Patman]

Are you sure your not doing this to get 300 posts to get an avater? Anyway, I like where your going with the DS and PSP. Although I already didnt like the PSP you got some pretty good points.

thanks. i have a long way to go to get an avatar. im going to go to some other threads on this site.. .. . .got any suggestions?

[Patman]

any new news on the ds? or psp?

[Patman]

Thats why you are told to read the guidelines when you sign up ;)

your adorable. so how long have you been on this site?

[hei1spawn1]

your adorable


Aright. This **** is gettin a little too homoerotic for me. Im gonna leave now

[Patman]

Aright. This **** is gettin a little too homoerotic for me. Im gonna leave now

no guts

[Patman]

**

[Glordreen]

PSP will destroy the DS, that is an absolute given.

[neo5595]

no guts
Seriously, go somewhere else. No one really wants you here and your breaking the forum's rules.

[Patman]

Seriously, go somewhere else. No one really wants you here and your breaking the forum's rules.

no one wants me here? im breaking the forums rules? what rule is that?

[Patman]

PSP will destroy the DS, that is an absolute given.

really. do you really think that sonies pittiful first attemt at handheld gaming is going to "destroy" the nintendo's more reliable nintendo ds? please. give me a break sony boy and read page 3 on to tell you what i think about the psp. or just read all of the posts by patman

[Patman]

Seriously, go somewhere else. No one really wants you here and your breaking the forum's rules.

or do you just not like me because im something different that this forum really needs?

[hei1spawn1]

or do you just not like me because im something different that this forum really needs?


No. Just stop multi posting. And if you want to debate, debate about the hardware and not "sony sucks."

[Patman]

No. Just stop multi posting. And if you want to debate, debate about the hardware and not "sony sucks."

i know. i ask a question and no one answers what am i suppost to do and how many posts are the maximum?

[spiderman_2k]

Two in a row are too many, if you ask a question wait until someone answers, if they dont, deal with it.

[neo5595]

i know. i ask a question and no one answers what am i suppost to do and how many posts are the maximum?
Its not like we are all online at the moment you post something and at this particular thread. Just wait till someone answers.

[Patman]

Its not like we are all online at the moment you post something and at this particular thread. Just wait till someone answers.

ok. i told you im new at this. tell me. where did you get the price $150 for the ds? that would be totally awesome if it was but i thought it was going to be $200. can you give me a link to your source?

[neo5595]

ok. i told you im new at this. tell me. where did you get the price $150 for the ds? that would be totally awesome if it was but i thought it was going to be $200. can you give me a link to your source?

I found it in my gameinformer magazine. It was the issue featuring the new Metriod game on the front.

[Patman]

I found it in my gameinformer magazine. It was the issue featuring the new Metriod game on the front.


thanks i got that issue.

[ruban]

You know there are going to be many many people who will buy the PSP because 1. its a Sony and/or 2. it "cool" so we know that no matter what, Nintendo's share will be cut. It is inevitable. I think that the price of the PSP will not affect its' sales. How expensive was the PS2 when it was first release? ..and how many did Sony sell? Ya, tons. Everyone is going to look at the PSP with the knowledge that it is from Sony, and that Sony makes the PS2, and that the PS2 is the most famous system, and so they will buy it.
I use "everyone" because the hardcore gamers are a minority IMO, so "everyone" is Uncle Jack who doesn't know what to get Billy for Christmas.

Then we have the DS. Nintendo fans alike will buy it because Nintendo fans will buy anything that has their logo. Uncle Jack will buy it because Nintendo is synonymous with handheld. The price only helps Nintendo's situation with the DS, whereas the same strategy for GameCube was a miss.

My point in all this is that I think both handhelds will be a success, and although Nintendo's share will be slightly depleted it will be because more adults will buy a PSP rather than kids switching from Nintendo to Sony.

[neo5595]

You know there are going to be many many people who will buy the PSP because 1. its a Sony and/or 2. it "cool" so we know that no matter what, Nintendo's share will be cut. It is inevitable. I think that the price of the PSP will not affect its' sales. How expensive was the PS2 when it was first release? ..and how many did Sony sell? Ya, tons. Everyone is going to look at the PSP with the knowledge that it is from Sony, and that Sony makes the PS2, and that the PS2 is the most famous system, and so they will buy it.
I use "everyone" because the hardcore gamers are a minority IMO, so "everyone" is Uncle Jack who doesn't know what to get Billy for Christmas.

Then we have the DS. Nintendo fans alike will buy it because Nintendo fans will buy anything that has their logo. Uncle Jack will buy it because Nintendo is synonymous with handheld. The price only helps Nintendo's situation with the DS, whereas the same strategy for GameCube was a miss.

My point in all this is that I think both handhelds will be a success, and although Nintendo's share will be slightly depleted it will be because more adults will buy a PSP rather than kids switching from Nintendo to Sony.

I think your wrong. No one will pay $300 for a Portable game device. What would you play more anyway? The PS2 or PSP. And all Sony is doing is putting out the same games that are already out for the PS2. And I doubt people are gonna buy it just because its Sony. Did you ever think that people will buy the DS because its original? Not because it Nintendo? I dont think you know what your talking about.

[impulse]

me? I'll probaly get them both in time...

but remember a gaming system is only as strong as the games it plays... specs mean nothing...!

a little off the subject... my ps2 freezes when it loads games... anybody knows how to fix this?

[Boro]

if you have a warranty contact sony. if not buy another ps2.


the same thing happened to one of my friends a couple weeks ago.

[ruban]

I think your wrong. No one will pay $300 for a Portable game device. What would you play more anyway? The PS2 or PSP. And all Sony is doing is putting out the same games that are already out for the PS2. And I doubt people are gonna buy it just because its Sony. Did you ever think that people will buy the DS because its original? Not because it Nintendo? I dont think you know what your talking about.


Alright don't get your panties in a knot. This is my opinion, deal with it.
I think the dual screen is more of a shock value than originality.
This is what they did. Nintendo said "Hey look we have two screens! We don't know how we are going to use the two screens for the games but we'll leave that up to the developers." Instead of syaing, "Hey we thought of two screens to do cool stuff like so and so..."

So calm down son, and learn to handle it when somebody says something good about a system that isn't from Nintendo.

I own all Nintendo made systems, and have been there since the beginning
playing the NES while you were still sucking on your mommmas' teet.
http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/ma.gif

[neo5595]

Alright don't get your panties in a knot. This is my opinion, deal with it.
I think the dual screen is more of a shock value than originality.
This is what they did. Nintendo said "Hey look we have two screens! We don't know how we are going to use the two screens for the games but we'll leave that up to the developers." Instead of syaing, "Hey we thought of two screens to do cool stuff like so and so..."

So calm down son, and learn to handle it when somebody says something good about a system that isn't from Nintendo.

I own all Nintendo made systems, and have been there since the beginning
playing the NES while you were still sucking on your mommmas' teet.
http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/ma.gif



So your telling me they dont know what there gonna do with the two screens...
gameplay 1 (http://www.nintendo.com/ds/movies/video_ds_software_480.jsp)
gameplay 2 (http://www.nintendo.com/ds/movies/videos_ds_sizzle_tech_480.jsp)
...What do know. It looks like they know what their doing. So just chill and dont take it so seriously.

[G-UnitDicRyda]

I'm buying psp when it drops in price and that nintendo you know is gonna be like for kiddie games like game boy advance

[hei1spawn1]

I'm buying psp when it drops in price and that nintendo you know is gonna be like for kiddie games like game boy advance


He does have a point. I love many of the games on G-Cube and GBA but there are too many that are not for adult gamers. I wish that they would have more games like Eternal Darkness on Cube

[ruban]

I saw those lame videos before.

Don't take it so seriously?
Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and maybe I would have.

http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[neo5595]

I saw those lame videos before.

You have to admit that the metroid game and the table hockey game where the puck goes from screen to screen was pretty cool.

[Neelsen VasqueZ]

The DS and it's games peak my interest but the PSP, unfortunately does not. It isn't even close

[Patman]

You know there are going to be many many people who will buy the PSP because 1. its a Sony and/or 2. it "cool" so we know that no matter what, Nintendo's share will be cut. It is inevitable. I think that the price of the PSP will not affect its' sales. How expensive was the PS2 when it was first release? ..and how many did Sony sell? Ya, tons. Everyone is going to look at the PSP with the knowledge that it is from Sony, and that Sony makes the PS2, and that the PS2 is the most famous system, and so they will buy it.
I use "everyone" because the hardcore gamers are a minority IMO, so "everyone" is Uncle Jack who doesn't know what to get Billy for Christmas.

Then we have the DS. Nintendo fans alike will buy it because Nintendo fans will buy anything that has their logo. Uncle Jack will buy it because Nintendo is synonymous with handheld. The price only helps Nintendo's situation with the DS, whereas the same strategy for GameCube was a miss.

My point in all this is that I think both handhelds will be a success, and although Nintendo's share will be slightly depleted it will be because more adults will buy a PSP rather than kids switching from Nintendo to Sony.


let me think. i dont know what to buy johny for christmas so hek why not buy him a $300 dollar game that i have no freaken idea of whether he'll like it or not. pretty stupid inquery man. im going to have to go with neo on this one and i also own every nintendo and sony console ever made and know the history for both companies and if i was "uncle johnny" i would easily save $150 on a gift and buy the nintendo ds. for my wittle boy.
Maybe you should do your homework befor taking the test dumbell and maybe you wouldnt sound so stupid. i mean come on. none of the things you are saying are making any sense. and i can gaurantee that i know more abouth the gaming industry than you will ever know. :P

[Neelsen VasqueZ]

The DS and PSP are going to be $200 each and the games are $50 each.

[Patman]

The DS and PSP are going to be $200 each and the games are $50 each.


befor i call you an idiot, a moron, a dumbell, a stupid monkey and all the other things im thinking of i will give you the fair chance of proving it. just because your rong and you CANT prove it doesnt mean im not cival enough to wait a couple of hours to call you names and make fun of you. :redface: :funny: :hehe: :)

[neo5595]

The DS and PSP are going to be $200 each and the games are $50 each.

Yeah man, seriously. Prove it. If you cant then too bad.

[Patman]

Yeah man, seriously. Prove it. If you cant then too bad.

this is pretty cool having someon on the same side as me for once. thanks for backing me up man.

[Neelsen VasqueZ]

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/groups/nintendo_ds/

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/groups/psp/

And it's obvious to someone blind that the DS and PSP are gonna be $200. Look at the N-Gage. The only reason it's $100 now is because it sold horribly low.

[Boro]

the prices they list now are higher then they are going to be. its easier for them to give money back then ask for more money. no official announcements have been made on the prices. right now thats just speculation from the retailers.

[Neelsen VasqueZ]

Doesn't matter. The prices are gonna drop a week later. Only kids who get the ***** spoiled out of them are going to buy a DS or PSP and the games. I'm gonna wait for the prices to drop. The fact is, they're gonna be less than $300. I'm sure all VG companies learned a lesson from Nokia so they won't make a portable console than insanely high.

All I'm saying is that I'm partly right.

[Boro]

you call people who dont agree with your price estimates blind and now you say the price doesnt matter.

[impulse]

there is alot of hostility here...

[Patman]

Doesn't matter. The prices are gonna drop a week later. Only kids who get the ***** spoiled out of them are going to buy a DS or PSP and the games. I'm gonna wait for the prices to drop. The fact is, they're gonna be less than $300. I'm sure all VG companies learned a lesson from Nokia so they won't make a portable console than insanely high.

All I'm saying is that I'm partly right.

your not right at all. i am betting that the nintendo ds will be $150 and the games will be $35, $40 for the realy good ones (lide FF chronicles). havent you read how the tech they are using specifically provides a lower price range not only better gameplay? and the lowest the psp will be is $300 because they dont know jack about making handhelds and think people will buy it just because its sony and you may be right about one thing. the sony games may be $50 bucks because all of the rest of their games are for every single system they have ever made. they only drop the price when they are used or have a newer system out.

[Patman]

Sorry for multiposting but i just found this check out this site.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3675922.stm

i am going to post what it says if you dont want to.
US debut for Nintendo DS gadget


The DS has a sleeker design than previous devices
Nintendo has announced more details of its up-coming new two-screen portable gaming device, the Nintendo DS.
For the first time the gaming giant, which dominates the portable games market, is releasing such a device in the US before Japan.

The gadget will go on sale on 21 November in the US and 2 December in Japan. Europe will see the device on sale sometime at the start of 2005.

Rival Sony is set to release its portable PSP at the end of the year.

It is widely expected to go on sale in Japan first, however.

Nintendo also announced the DS will have a price tag in the US of $149.99 (£84), and 15,000 yen in Japan (£76).


Sony and others are launching portable devices to rival Nintendo
It already announced a 20% price cut on its popular GameBoy Advance SP in an attempt to reinforce its position as the dominant portable gaming device.

GameBoys have commonly attracted a wide range of gamers, with its different colours and relatively inexpensive price tag.

The DS has a sleeker design and will be launched in silver and black. When the device was announced in January, it was stressed that it was not meant to be the successor to the GameBoy Advance.

Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo, said the idea behind the DS was to "expand the game experience" and build a "road map" for the future of gaming, according to what gamers demand.

Portable gaming is a lucrative and growing market for the big games console makers.

There is also an increasing effort from major games companies to target their efforts on mobile gaming.

Nokia has launched its N-Gage devices and others, like Gizmondo and Tapwave Zodiac, are moving into the market too.

Games console makers tend to start making announcements on price and availability of their wares in the run-up to the busy Christmas period, which is a big market for them.

In 2003, global £10.1bn ($18.2bn) was spent on gaming, according to a report by analysts Screen Digest. It predicts that this will grow to £11.7bn ($21.1bn) by 2007.

Touch and voice

The Nintendo DS has two separate screens so that players can check maps, whilst the game is being played on the other screen, for instance.

At 148.7mm (5.85 inches) wide, 84.7mm (3.33 inches) long, and 28.9mm (1.13 inches) tall, the device also has a wireless range of 30 to 100ft (nine to 30m), which means that multiple users can play multiplayer games using one DS game card.

It also has a touch screen and an embedded microphone for voice recognition control, and has a chat software that lets up to 16 users chat at once.

Games will come from 100 different companies which have already agreed to develop titles for the device.

[Neelsen VasqueZ]

Well, I'm hoping for an F-Zero DS. That would be awesome

[ruban]

let me think. i dont know what to buy johny for christmas so hek why not buy him a $300 dollar game that i have no freaken idea of whether he'll like it or not. pretty stupid inquery man. im going to have to go with neo on this one and i also own every nintendo and sony console ever made and know the history for both companies and if i was "uncle johnny" i would easily save $150 on a gift and buy the nintendo ds. for my wittle boy.
Maybe you should do your homework befor taking the test dumbell and maybe you wouldnt sound so stupid. i mean come on. none of the things you are saying are making any sense. and i can gaurantee that i know more abouth the gaming industry than you will ever know. :P

lol, I love the part where you make yourself sound like the all-knowing gaming
master, and then you start using words like 'dumbell.' http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/emotlol.gif

That was funny, I thought you were serious for a second. lol

"You have to admit that the metroid game and the table hockey game where the puck goes from screen to screen was pretty cool."

Yeah that was cool. Don't get me wrong, I think the dual screen opens up possibilities, I just hoped they'd show more innovative ways to use it.
I know its early so I am still excited and would prefer the DS to take out the PSP.


Careful Neelsen Vasquez, Patman will barrage you with ego piercing names.
Let us see what toddler-like scribble he posts next.

*waits*

http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/soap_bubble.gif

[hei1spawn1]

Careful Neelsen Vasquez, Patman will barrage you with ego piercing names.
Let us see what toddler-like scribble he posts next.

*waits*

http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/soap_bubble.gif

haha
:D :D

[Patman]

Well, I'm hoping for an F-Zero DS. That would be awesome

what the hey is an F-Zero DS?

[Patman]

haha
:D :D

did i accidentaly hurt more than one person on my ego-peircing toddler like word rampage? baby want a widdle kissy on da boo boo too? I wasnt aware i was such a mastery at words that with a tap or two of the keyboard and !BAM! instant crybabies. double-teaming me to? man am i stumped. loss of words am i. 2 of you have the brains to get together to take out big bad PATMAN the newbie. i guess now that your together your braincells wont be lonely anymore. and i am soooooooooooooooo sorry that i hurt you with my big words.

[hei1spawn1]

did i accidentaly hurt more than one person on my ego-peircing toddler like word rampage? baby want a widdle kissy on da boo boo too? I wasnt aware i was such a mastery at words that with a tap or two of the keyboard and !BAM! instant crybabies. double-teaming me to? man am i stumped. loss of words am i. 2 of you have the brains to get together to take out big bad PATMAN the newbie. i guess now that your together your braincells wont be lonely anymore. and i am soooooooooooooooo sorry that i hurt you with my big words.

nope it was just funny

[ruban]

i am soooooooooooooooo sorry that i hurt you with my big words.

I guess I could accept your apology....alright I do.

http://forum.djesi.ba/images/smilies/zubi.gif

[Neelsen VasqueZ]

Well this is what I heard so far:

PSP=$300
DS=$150
1 DS game= $30-40(undecided)
1 PSP game= $50

This is what I HEARD. I'm not saying that I have full proof of this. But heres what I'm think while typing this post: "Sony doesn't know jack about making a succesful portable console"

[Boro]

how many different times are you going to change your opinion over a couple of days?

[neo5595]

I mean think about. This is Sonys first handheld and I think it will have a lot of flaws. Nintendo has been making handhelds for a while and they know what their doing. Plus whens the last time a gamecube burned out? Exactly, they dont because you can trust Nintendos hardware.

[Patman]

I mean think about. This is Sonys first handheld and I think it will have a lot of flaws. Nintendo has been making handhelds for a while and they know what their doing. Plus whens the last time a gamecube burned out? Exactly, they dont because you can trust Nintendos hardware.

exactly what im saying. safe, reliable, cheaper, better. . . nintendo.
enough said.

[ruban]

I mean think about. This is Sonys first handheld and I think it will have a lot of flaws. Nintendo has been making handhelds for a while and they know what their doing. Plus whens the last time a gamecube burned out? Exactly, they dont because you can trust Nintendos hardware.

Oh I agree, Nintendo does make durable stuff. It's just that Sony's first console system single handedly took away Nintendo's crown right? As bad as that sounds it is true right? So anything is possible now. Add to the fact that Sony now has a fanbase with the success of the PS2. It's just like someone who loves Nintendo. They know their products and love the stuff they do so they want their handheld system, so why wouldn't a Sony lover do the same with the PSP?
I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but this is what I think.

[Patman]

Oh I agree, Nintendo does make durable stuff. It's just that Sony's first console system single handedly took away Nintendo's crown right? As bad as that sounds it is true right? So anything is possible now. Add to the fact that Sony now has a fanbase with the success of the PS2. It's just like someone who loves Nintendo. They know their products and love the stuff they do so they want their handheld system, so why wouldn't a Sony lover do the same with the PSP?
I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but this is what I think.

i also hope you are rong. but you have to take into consideration that over the past fifteen years sony fans have had no choice but to buy nintendo handhelds if they wanted to play on the go. many of them although sony lovers still know and love the nintendo handhelds if for no other reason but lack of choice. for that reason only many of the sony fans will know that the nintendo makes a solid handheld that cant be beat and that is a small part of what nintendo ds is benching off of. besides thier handheld is obviosly a better deal :P

[Patman]

n-e-one disagree

[neo5595]

Check this out!



Activision Announces Spider-Man 2 for Nintento DS
Source: Activision, Inc. September 22, 2004


Activision, Inc. announced today that the company's first title for the Nintendo DS video game platform will be the video game Spider-Man 2, which is currently the #1 best-selling movie game of 2004 according to NPD Funworld. Based on this summer's blockbuster feature film from Columbia Pictures, Spider-Man 2 video game will be a launch title for the platform.

"We are excited about the Nintendo DS and are working closely with Nintendo to bring the 'Spider-Man 2' video game to this innovative new platform," said Kathy Vrabeck, president of Activision Publishing. "The nature of the dual-screen technology allows us to deliver more interactive and intuitive gameplay experiences on the hand-held than ever before."

Spider-Man 2 for the Nintendo DS is being developed by Vicarious Visions and is currently rated "E" (Everyone) by the ESRB.

[impulse]

i also hope you are rong He's not 'rong' he's Ruban!

[Patman]

does anyone have a list of what games are going to be out the day the ds goes on shelves?

[Patman]

does anyone have a list of what games are going to be out the day the ds goes on shelves?
and how much they will be.??.??>/>

[Patman]

how many different times are you going to change your opinion over a couple of days?
shhhhhhh. he is molding his opinions to mine. i have a follower. :D ;) :cool:

[neo5595]

and how much they will be.??.??>/>

Between $30 and $40. Not too bad.

[impulse]

hey Patman? just edit your post... they don't like it here when you do the quadruple post thing...

[neo5595]

I have a quick question. How to you quote more than one person in a post?

[Patman]

I have a quick question. How to you quote more than one person in a post?

go to quote on one person. wait till it loads and then copy and pase everything they wrote including the html. then click the back button. then click quote on onother person and type whatever on their post then paste what you copied and then type whatever on their post. understand? :confused: :confused: :sleepy:

hey Patman? just edit your post... they don't like it here when you do the quadruple post thing...
sorry.

[Patman]

;) :) :Bubbles

[neo5595]

CHECK IT OUT!!!! From Nintendo's official website (http://www.nintendo.com/home)


Nintendo DS Launches on Nov. 21 in North America -- At $149.99!

Sep 20, 2004


New System Comes with Embedded PictoChat Feature, Strong Publishers Support

Pics of FINAL Product and Packaging (http://www.nintendo.com/newsimagelarge?articleid=6a6f583d-1711-47be-b03c-d64d6bdd1d66&currentNo=0&page=)

REDMOND, Wash., Sept. 20, 2004 – From the very start, Nintendo DS™ broke the existing rules of video game play. Two screens, not one. Wireless connection for game play and personal communication for the sheer entertainment of it. Flexible game control by voice and touch, not just with buttons. Nintendo's newest innovation, Nintendo DS, will make its worldwide debut in North American stores on Nov. 21, and then in Japan on Dec. 2. It will sell at an MSRP of $149.99, making it an immediate mass-market attraction. Nintendo DS will become the company’s first system ever to make its sales debut outside of Japan.

"Nintendo's mission remains unchanged: expand the game experience," says Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo Co., Ltd. "Nintendo DS is the road map to the future of video games, and most clearly demonstrates the type of innovation that players demand."

Nintendo DS is the dual-screened, hand-held video game system redefining the idea of interactive entertainment. One screen allows for touch input using a stylus, while the unit includes both voice recognition and multiplayer wireless features. The sleek silver-and-black system sports a sharp, angular design.

Consumers immediately will be able to pick up and play the new system, as it comes with a free software feature, PictoChat, embedded in the system hardware. PictoChat allows DS owners to write messages with an on-screen keyboard or the stylus and send them wirelessly to other DS users nearby. Users can text chat, draw artistic messages or share secrets, all without saying a word. And a Nintendo DS in sleep mode will spring to life if it senses another DS in transmitting range, alerting users to each other’s presence and setting the stage for an impromptu conversation or game session.

More than 100 companies have signed on to create games for Nintendo DS, while Nintendo itself is already developing its first 20 titles. Electronic Arts, the world’s largest independent software developer and publisher, already has announced that its powerhouse franchises of Madden NFL, The URBZ: Sims in the City, Need for Speed Underground, Tiger Woods and GoldenEye will support Nintendo DS.

Each time Nintendo creates a hand-held, it introduces new elements of play and sets a new standard for mobile gaming,” says Larry Probst, EA's chairman and CEO. "The DS is no exception – Nintendo has another big winner with the DS."

The complete lineup of games planned for the launch of Nintendo DS will be announced in the near future. In effect, Nintendo DS already boasts a library of more than 550 games because it is compatible with single-player modes of games made for the world’s best-selling video game system, Game Boy Advance SP.

Nintendo chose the United States to lead the worldwide launch of Nintendo DS because of overwhelmingly positive and enthusiastic reaction from consumers and to take advantage of the holiday sales season. After the subsequent launch in Japan, the system will be available in Europe and Australia in the first quarter of 2005.

Nintendo DS has a flip-top cover that protects both screens. Two speakers on the unit's face let users hear virtual surround sound, while its dual screens open games to a multitude of possibilities. Nintendo DS sits 148.7 millimeters (5.85 inches) wide, 84.7 millimeters (3.33 inches) long and 28.9 millimeters (1.13 inches) tall with the cover closed. The new media format for games means that Nintendo DS has no moving parts that could be misaligned if the unit is dropped or jarred.

[impulse]

maybe yall already discussed it but are any of the two systems gonna have MP3 playback capabilities?

[neo5595]

I think only the PSP will.

[impulse]

if it does... then that's my system of choice... I love MP3 players... you know how much memory? be cool if it holds Mpegs too.. or .mov files

[Crow T. Robot]

Wow $149 is a great price. Nintendo isnt playing around with this.

I dont really care about MP3s. Well actually I do but im not gonna shell out $300+ dollars for just that...

[neo5595]

Wow $149 is a great price. Nintendo isnt playing around with this.

Yeah I know. Im so relieved that Nintedo didnt put it out for $200. Im very satisfied with the price.

[neo5595]

if it does... then that's my system of choice... I love MP3 players... you know how much memory? be cool if it holds Mpegs too.. or .mov files

Why would you spend so much for that?

go to quote on one person. wait till it loads and then copy and pase everything they wrote including the html. then click the back button. then click quote on onother person and type whatever on their post then paste what you copied and then type whatever on their post. understand? :confused: :confused: :sleepy:

thanks.

[neo5595]

Current Nintendo DS game line up-
Atari, Inc.
-- Atari Classics

Atlus USA
-- Caduceus
-- Snowboard Kids DS
-- Plus three additional titles in development

Bandai Entertainment Inc.
-- Meteos
-- Mobile Suit Gundam Seed
-- Plus one additional title in development

Capcom Entertainment, Inc.
-- Mega Man Battle Network
-- Viewtiful Joe
-- Plus one additional title in development

Electronic Arts
-- GoldenEye
-- Madden NFL
-- Need For Speed Underground
-- Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf
-- The URBZ: Sims in the City

Hudson Soft Co., Ltd.
-- Bomberman

Koei Co., Ltd.
-- Dynasty Warriors (working title)
-- Plus two additional titles in development

Konami Digital Entertainment
-- Boktai (working title)
-- Castlevania (working title)
-- Dragon Booster (working title)
-- Frogger 2005 (working title)
-- Survival Kids (working title)
-- World Soccer Winning Eleven series (working title)
-- Vandal Hearts (working titles)
-- WINX (working title)
-- Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubadour

Majesco
-- Moonlight Fables
-- Nanostray
-- Plus at least three additional titles in development

Namco Hometek Inc.
-- New Mr. Driller (working title)
-- Pac 'n Roll (working title)
-- Pac-Pix (working title)

Orbital Media
-- Four titles in development, including the genres of action platformer, strategy role-playing, combat racing and family.

SEGA of America, Inc.
-- Project Rub (working title)
-- Sonic DS (working title)

Square Enix Co., Ltd.
-- A new story of Secret of Mana
-- A new story of Slime Morimori Dragon Quest
-- Dragon Quest Monsters series
-- Egg Monster Heroes
-- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series

Summitsoft Corporation
-- Air Assault 2
-- Organizer Plus

Tecmo, Inc. -- Monster Rancher
-- Plus one additional title in development

Telegames, Inc.
-- Ultimate Brain Games
-- Ultimate Card Games
-- Ultimate Pocket Games

THQ
-- SpongeBob SquarePants
-- Plus five additional titles in development

Ubisoft Entertainment
-- Asphalt GT
-- Rayman
-- Plus additional titles in development, including a major movie license for early 2005

Vivendi Universal Games
-- Robots

Spider-man 2




Current PSP game line up:
Aqua Plus


Visual Novel (working title) - Adventure
Arika


TGM-K (working title) - Puzzle
Technic Cute (working title) -
Atari Japan


Untitled - Action Adventure
Untitled - Driving Action
Untitled - Racing
Atlus


EX Game of Life (working title) - Board game
Persona (working title) - RPG
Princess Crown (working title) - Action-RPG
Touge MAX (working title) - Racing
Bandai


Dragon Ball Z (working title) - Undecided
Legend of Heroes Gagabu Trilogy The White Witch - RPG
Lumines (working title) - Sound Action Light Puzzle
Mobile Suit Gundam (working title) - Undecided
Naruto (working title) - Undecided
One Piece (working title) - Undecided
Patlabor (working title) - Minipato
Soukyu no Fafuna (working title) - Action
Banpresto


Super Robot Wars (working title) - Undecided
Capcom


Devil May Cry (working title) - Stylish Action
Vampire Chronicle: The Chaos Tower - Fighting
Viewtiful Joe (working title) - VFX
Cyber Front


Koron - Puzzle Action
D3 Publisher


Puzzle Game (working title) - Puzzle
Dorasu


Doraslot 2: Syuyaku wa Zenigata - Pachislot
Doraslot: Super Hanahana 30 - Pachislot
Electronic Arts


Need for Speed Underground Rivals (working title) - Racing
Tiger Woods PGA Tour R (working title) - Golf
FromSoftware


Armored Core Formula Front - Mech Simulation
Innovative Adventure Game (working title) - Adventure
King's Field (working title) - 3D Realtime RPG
Tenchu (working title) - Ninja Action
Genki


Shutokou Battle (working title) - Racing
Global A Entertainment


Mushi - Simulation
Hudson


Bomberman (working title) - Action
Rengoku: The Tower of Purgatory - SF Action-RPG
Tengai Makyou (working title) - Japanese-Style RPG
Idea Factory


Shin Tenmakai (working title) - Simulation RPG
Imagineer


Educational Game - Educational Game
Koei


Majang Taikai (working title) - Board
Sangokushi (working title) - Strategy
Shin Sangoku Musou (working title) - Action
Konami


Majang Kakuto Club (working title) - Board
Maze-Exploring Monster Shooter (working title) - FPS
Metal Gear Acid - ACID
Powerful Pro Baseball (working title) - Baseball
Winning Eleven (working title) - Soccer
Ys -The Ark of Napishtim- (working title) - Action-RPG
Mainichi


Tokyo University Shogi Portable - Board
Marvelous Interactive


A.I. Series Go - Board
A.I. Series Mah-Jong - Board
A.I. Series Shogi - Board
Harvest Moon (working title) - Life Simulation
Kawa no Nushizuri (working title) - Fishing RPG
Pilot ni Narou! (working title) - Flight Simulation
Media Works


Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World - Novel Adventure
MTO


Angel Collection (working title) - Early Teen Dress-Up
Puzzle Game (working title) - Puzzle
Namco


Mojipittan - Puzzle Game
Namco Colosseum (working title) - Variety
New Ridge Racer (working title) - Racing
Taiko no Tatsujin (working title) - Rhythm Action
T.O.E. (working title) - RPG
Nippon Ichi Software


Makai Wars - Simulation RPG
Now Pro


Higanshi (working title) - Fear Adventure
Intelligent License (working title) - Puzzle Action
Ongakkan


Mobile Train Simulator + Densha De Go! Tokyo Shinkansen Collection (working title) - Simulation
Sammy


Jissen Pachislot Hissatsuho! Series (working title) - Pachislot
Sega


Project S (working title) - Undecided
Puyo Puyo Fever - Puzzle
Sony Computer Entertainment Japan


Derby Time - Horse Racing
Dokodemo Issyo - Story Game
GAMES (working title) - Online games
Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex - FPS
Gran Turismo 4 Mobile (working title) - Racing
KARAOKE (working title) - Karaoke
Minna no Golf Portable - Golf
MMORPG (working title) - MMORPG
Novel (working title) - Novel
Piposaru Academia - Dossari! Saruge Daizenshuu - Monkey Game
Popolocrois Monogatari: Prince Pietro's Adventure - Anime Check Romantic RPG
Red Line (working title) - Communication
RPG (working title) - RPG
Sarugetchu P! - Monkey Catching Action
Talkman - Entertainment Tool
Tenchi no Mon - Fencing Action-RPG
Spike


RS Revolution (working title) - Racing
Square Enix


Undecided - Undecided
Success


Suzume Mate - Board
Untitled - Board
Sunrise


New Type of Simulation Game (working title) - Simulation
SNK Playmore


KOF (working title) - 3D Fighting
Taito


Puzzle Bobble Pocket - Puzzle
Space Invaders Pocket - Shooting
Takuyou Kougyou


Hoshigari Empusa - Love Simulation
Plus Plumb 2 - Puzzle
Tecmo


Karakuri (working title) - Crowd Action
Dokodemo Rakushou! Pachislot Senngen (working title) - Pachislot
Tecmo My Generation (working title) - Variety
Tomy


Action Game (working title) - Action
Work Jam


Detective Jinguji Saburo (working title) - Adventure
X-Nauts


Sengoku CANON (working title) - Shooter
Yamasa


Yamasa Digi Portable (working title) - Pachislot
Yuke's


Pro Wrestling (working title) - Wrestling

[Patman]

Why would you spend so much for that?



thanks.
hey no problem man.

[sphericthor]

Well I was almost finished a huge reply for this but my browser crashed so I'll keep it brief:


Sony are about to enter a market untapped by them since they entered the gaming sector, people are looking for something new and although the DS has the whole 2 screens going for it in the end the PSP will have the market base needed to succeed. People don't want to have hundreds of Pokémon games released to keep the console near the top they want freshness, new games new ideas, not the same thing over and over again which is what Nintendo have been doing in recent times.

Nintendo and Sega were the 2 giants in gaming until Sony came strolling into the console market, now they're strolling into the handheld market Nintendo will be dethroned as #1. Sony know where the money is and they're aiming at that market, Nintendo it seems are going mainly towards kids which is a major mistake in the gaming industry.

I'm not a fanboy of any of the systems available, I look for the type of games I want and weigh out the options from there...... Sony will aim towards the adult market, Nintendo towards the kids market...... PSP will prevail in the end

[sphericthor]

The PSP "will" be released this year in Japan with the price sitting at under US$200, no date has been confirmed but Ken Kutaragi is adamant that it'll be available on the Japanese market before christmas

[Patman]

The PSP "will" be released this year in Japan with the price sitting at under US$200, no date has been confirmed but Ken Kutaragi is adamant that it'll be available on the Japanese market before christmas
i think your totally wrong in almost every aspect. nintendo is not stupid. dont you think that they have thought of what you are saying? i mean cmon. they wouldnt have re introduced its new sexier design if they were aiming for kids. i dont have time right now to reply to the rest but i will in a few hours. but for now you make somewhat of a point but not much. the playstation2, i will admit, did dominate the console industry and is plainly a better system than the gamecube and clearly a million times better than xbox (which should be called the halobox) lol. but sony will be no match against the nintendos handheld industry which is awesome in every way. :cool:

ps the main strategy of the psp is to advertise the psp with all of the options that either really suck and or the ones you get on other devices for a fraction of the cost. and to bombard the consumers with a million horrible games and maybe 3 that are decent that are better for the ps2. they also try to make it "sexy". they use everything but what actually matters: good gameplay and alot of awesome games. which the nintendo ds obviosly has.

[Patman]

Current Nintendo DS game line up-
Atari, Inc.
-- Atari Classics

Atlus USA
-- Caduceus
-- Snowboard Kids DS
-- Plus three additional titles in development

Bandai Entertainment Inc.
-- Meteos
-- Mobile Suit Gundam Seed
-- Plus one additional title in development

Capcom Entertainment, Inc.
-- Mega Man Battle Network
-- Viewtiful Joe
-- Plus one additional title in development

Electronic Arts
-- GoldenEye
-- Madden NFL
-- Need For Speed Underground
-- Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf
-- The URBZ: Sims in the City

Hudson Soft Co., Ltd.
-- Bomberman

Koei Co., Ltd.
-- Dynasty Warriors (working title)
-- Plus two additional titles in development

Konami Digital Entertainment
-- Boktai (working title)
-- Castlevania (working title)
-- Dragon Booster (working title)
-- Frogger 2005 (working title)
-- Survival Kids (working title)
-- World Soccer Winning Eleven series (working title)
-- Vandal Hearts (working titles)
-- WINX (working title)
-- Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubadour

Majesco
-- Moonlight Fables
-- Nanostray
-- Plus at least three additional titles in development

Namco Hometek Inc.
-- New Mr. Driller (working title)
-- Pac 'n Roll (working title)
-- Pac-Pix (working title)

Orbital Media
-- Four titles in development, including the genres of action platformer, strategy role-playing, combat racing and family.

SEGA of America, Inc.
-- Project Rub (working title)
-- Sonic DS (working title)

Square Enix Co., Ltd.
-- A new story of Secret of Mana
-- A new story of Slime Morimori Dragon Quest
-- Dragon Quest Monsters series
-- Egg Monster Heroes
-- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series

Summitsoft Corporation
-- Air Assault 2
-- Organizer Plus

Tecmo, Inc. -- Monster Rancher
-- Plus one additional title in development

Telegames, Inc.
-- Ultimate Brain Games
-- Ultimate Card Games
-- Ultimate Pocket Games

THQ
-- SpongeBob SquarePants
-- Plus five additional titles in development

Ubisoft Entertainment
-- Asphalt GT
-- Rayman
-- Plus additional titles in development, including a major movie license for early 2005

Vivendi Universal Games
-- Robots

Spider-man 2




Current PSP game line up:
Aqua Plus


Visual Novel (working title) - Adventure
Arika


TGM-K (working title) - Puzzle
Technic Cute (working title) -
Atari Japan


Untitled - Action Adventure
Untitled - Driving Action
Untitled - Racing
Atlus


EX Game of Life (working title) - Board game
Persona (working title) - RPG
Princess Crown (working title) - Action-RPG
Touge MAX (working title) - Racing
Bandai


Dragon Ball Z (working title) - Undecided
Legend of Heroes Gagabu Trilogy The White Witch - RPG
Lumines (working title) - Sound Action Light Puzzle
Mobile Suit Gundam (working title) - Undecided
Naruto (working title) - Undecided
One Piece (working title) - Undecided
Patlabor (working title) - Minipato
Soukyu no Fafuna (working title) - Action
Banpresto


Super Robot Wars (working title) - Undecided
Capcom


Devil May Cry (working title) - Stylish Action
Vampire Chronicle: The Chaos Tower - Fighting
Viewtiful Joe (working title) - VFX
Cyber Front


Koron - Puzzle Action
D3 Publisher


Puzzle Game (working title) - Puzzle
Dorasu


Doraslot 2: Syuyaku wa Zenigata - Pachislot
Doraslot: Super Hanahana 30 - Pachislot
Electronic Arts


Need for Speed Underground Rivals (working title) - Racing
Tiger Woods PGA Tour R (working title) - Golf
FromSoftware


Armored Core Formula Front - Mech Simulation
Innovative Adventure Game (working title) - Adventure
King's Field (working title) - 3D Realtime RPG
Tenchu (working title) - Ninja Action
Genki


Shutokou Battle (working title) - Racing
Global A Entertainment


Mushi - Simulation
Hudson


Bomberman (working title) - Action
Rengoku: The Tower of Purgatory - SF Action-RPG
Tengai Makyou (working title) - Japanese-Style RPG
Idea Factory


Shin Tenmakai (working title) - Simulation RPG
Imagineer


Educational Game - Educational Game
Koei


Majang Taikai (working title) - Board
Sangokushi (working title) - Strategy
Shin Sangoku Musou (working title) - Action
Konami


Majang Kakuto Club (working title) - Board
Maze-Exploring Monster Shooter (working title) - FPS
Metal Gear Acid - ACID
Powerful Pro Baseball (working title) - Baseball
Winning Eleven (working title) - Soccer
Ys -The Ark of Napishtim- (working title) - Action-RPG
Mainichi


Tokyo University Shogi Portable - Board
Marvelous Interactive


A.I. Series Go - Board
A.I. Series Mah-Jong - Board
A.I. Series Shogi - Board
Harvest Moon (working title) - Life Simulation
Kawa no Nushizuri (working title) - Fishing RPG
Pilot ni Narou! (working title) - Flight Simulation
Media Works


Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World - Novel Adventure
MTO


Angel Collection (working title) - Early Teen Dress-Up
Puzzle Game (working title) - Puzzle
Namco


Mojipittan - Puzzle Game
Namco Colosseum (working title) - Variety
New Ridge Racer (working title) - Racing
Taiko no Tatsujin (working title) - Rhythm Action
T.O.E. (working title) - RPG
Nippon Ichi Software


Makai Wars - Simulation RPG
Now Pro


Higanshi (working title) - Fear Adventure
Intelligent License (working title) - Puzzle Action
Ongakkan


Mobile Train Simulator + Densha De Go! Tokyo Shinkansen Collection (working title) - Simulation
Sammy


Jissen Pachislot Hissatsuho! Series (working title) - Pachislot
Sega


Project S (working title) - Undecided
Puyo Puyo Fever - Puzzle
Sony Computer Entertainment Japan


Derby Time - Horse Racing
Dokodemo Issyo - Story Game
GAMES (working title) - Online games
Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex - FPS
Gran Turismo 4 Mobile (working title) - Racing
KARAOKE (working title) - Karaoke
Minna no Golf Portable - Golf
MMORPG (working title) - MMORPG
Novel (working title) - Novel
Piposaru Academia - Dossari! Saruge Daizenshuu - Monkey Game
Popolocrois Monogatari: Prince Pietro's Adventure - Anime Check Romantic RPG
Red Line (working title) - Communication
RPG (working title) - RPG
Sarugetchu P! - Monkey Catching Action
Talkman - Entertainment Tool
Tenchi no Mon - Fencing Action-RPG
Spike


RS Revolution (working title) - Racing
Square Enix


Undecided - Undecided
Success


Suzume Mate - Board
Untitled - Board
Sunrise


New Type of Simulation Game (working title) - Simulation
SNK Playmore


KOF (working title) - 3D Fighting
Taito


Puzzle Bobble Pocket - Puzzle
Space Invaders Pocket - Shooting
Takuyou Kougyou


Hoshigari Empusa - Love Simulation
Plus Plumb 2 - Puzzle
Tecmo


Karakuri (working title) - Crowd Action
Dokodemo Rakushou! Pachislot Senngen (working title) - Pachislot
Tecmo My Generation (working title) - Variety
Tomy


Action Game (working title) - Action
Work Jam


Detective Jinguji Saburo (working title) - Adventure
X-Nauts


Sengoku CANON (working title) - Shooter
Yamasa


Yamasa Digi Portable (working title) - Pachislot
Yuke's


Pro Wrestling (working title) - Wrestling



i think that the list is correct.... correct in japan. take out all of the japan only releases and you cut about 3 games off of the nintendo ds games and about 20 or more off of the psp games. nice list though :)

[Andy_R]

Kids are the ones who play portable games, and Nintendo already has an established market in that area.

Sony's problem is that there really is no adult market for hand-helds.
They will have to create such a market.
Sounds like an up-hill battle for Sony.

Honestly, I don't think it can be done.
As a kid, I played my Game Boy all the time, but as an adult I never play it.
I don't feel like staring at a small screen anymore. I used to play it in the car and on long trips and stuff. Now, I'm the one driving, so I can't do that anymore.

Sony will have to convince a new generation of adults that hand-held gaming is cool and accessible.
Then again, they did just that with the Playstation in 1995...so history might repeat itself. I wish them luck, and I hope I'm wrong.

[Patman]

Kids are the ones who play portable games, and Nintendo already has an established market in that area.

Sony's problem is that there really is no adult market for hand-helds.
They will have to create such a market.
Sounds like an up-hill battle for Sony.

Honestly, I don't think it can be done.
As a kid, I played my Game Boy all the time, but as an adult I never play it.
I don't feel like staring at a small screen anymore. I used to play it in the car and on long trips and stuff. Now, I'm the one driving, so I can't do that anymore.

Sony will have to convince a new generation of adults that hand-held gaming is cool and accessible.
Then again, they did just that with the Playstation in 1995...so history might repeat itself. I wish them luck, and I hope I'm wrong.

you know what. you are right. sony will convince adults to buy handhelds and then they will go to the store, compare prices, games, specs ect. and buy the nintendo ds. sony may have inadvertantly given nintendo even more profits. cool :cool: ;)

[Patman]

ps im 17 and still play handhelds. :cool

[impulse]

Sorry to burst your bubble Patman... but you seem like you work for Nintendo... If you know anything of Sony you'd know they are excellent business pratictioners... I'm quite sure they will find a foothole against Nintendo in the handheld market if that's what they plan to do... They did it to them in the console market... handhelds will be next...

[Patman]

Sorry to burst your bubble Patman... but you seem like you work for Nintendo... If you know anything of Sony you'd know they are excellent business pratictioners... I'm quite sure they will find a foothole against Nintendo in the handheld market if that's what they plan to do... They did it to them in the console market... handhelds will be next...
your so nieve. what say we make a little wager on this? if the psp wins out over the nintendo ds and sells even 1 more console than them i will give you my password and you will never hear from me again. and if the nintendo ds sells out over the psp. you have to openly apologize and then give me your pass. ill take this bet with anyone here. anyone who has the guts to stand up for their wimpy handheld. any takers?

[spiderman_2k]

Sad.

[Malitos_Sahkir]

ps im 17 and still play handhelds. :cool
Your profile says July 11th 1988, making you 16.

[Boro]

psp will probly win.

[neo5595]

PSP already rules the console market. Theres no need for them to rule the handheld. I also bet the PSP will burn out after a year or two just like the PS2. Sonys hardware isnt reliable.

[hei1spawn1]

PSP already rules the console market. Theres no need for them to rule the handheld. I also bet the PSP will burn out after a year or two just like the PS2. Sonys hardware isnt reliable.


But that doesnt metter when they sell as many consoles as they do. I admit that it pisses me off but it doesnt affect their sales. And of course theres no need for them no rule the handheld market but theyll make good money if they do

[Crow T. Robot]

The PSP "will" be released this year in Japan with the price sitting at under US$200, no date has been confirmed but Ken Kutaragi is adamant that it'll be available on the Japanese market before christmas


are you sure about that price? A year ago Sony said it would be around 400$. Either they scaled down the thing or they are selling it at a loss.

By the way, I wouldnt call releasing games already on the Playstation 2 console 'original'

[impulse]

your so nieve
I'm not nieve, I'm impulse dammit!

password trade? wow man you need help! You're just a little too serious about this discussion... (okay, a lot too serious!)

[ruban]

Under 200...US? Naw man....even as a rumour that sounds unfeasible

#1 (http://gcadvanced.com/article.php?artid=3307)

Mentioned at the Tokyo Game Show, Sony has un-officially announced a price of $349.99 for the handheld.

This further suggests many previous guesses that the PlayStation Portable would be at least $300 at launch, and more than double the price of the Nintendo DS. No software has yet been announced to launch alongside the system, but the price is likely to have been influenced by the MP3 player and DVD player functionality of the portable system.




#2 (http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1096322808)

It's semi-official -- at the Tokyo Game Show, Sony confirmed to various members of the press that the PSP would indeed retail for 38,624 Yen in Japan and $349.99 here in North America. As well, PSP games (as they are disc-based) require a memory stick that itself retails for $29.99.


Sure it's still not official, but 350 sounds more realistic imo.

[neo5595]

Wow Sony is really dumb if their gonna sell it for that mcuh. At first I thought Sony would lower it alot because of Nintendo's awesome price tag of $149.

[krazy_marco74]

i really dont know what to get now. Nintendo DS;good price,text messaging!, using the pen, 2 screen. PSP;good graphics, plays movies!, music files, mp3s?

[neo5595]

i really dont know what to get now. Nintendo DS;good price,text messaging!, using the pen, 2 screen. PSP;good graphics, plays movies!, music files, mp3s?

True, but the quality of the movies on the PSP will probably be bad. Not to mention that you cant even finish a two hour movie on it. Overall they both have thier pros and cons but you have to look and see which one your going to be better off with and happier with.

[thezez]

your so nieve. what say we make a little wager on this? if the psp wins out over the nintendo ds and sells even 1 more console than them i will give you my password and you will never hear from me again. and if the nintendo ds sells out over the psp. you have to openly apologize and then give me your pass. ill take this bet with anyone here. anyone who has the guts to stand up for their wimpy handheld. any takers?

Why oh why did I come back into this thread, and to think that I thought this 'debate' would have become any more mature

[Patman]

Why oh why did I come back into this thread, and to think that I thought this 'debate' would have become any more mature
shows how smart you are. . . . .
the news says it comes in silver and black. does anyone have a link to a pic of the black one?

[Malitos_Sahkir]

shows how smart you are. . . . .
So you're just confirming the fact that thezez thinks you're an idiot? ;)

Anyhow..

Rumor #3: The PSP will cost 33,000 yen--approximately $300.

Source: UK game site SPOnG.

The official story: "Official pricing for the PSP has not been announced, and any information in this regard is only speculation," a Sony spokesperson said.

What we heard: The SPOnG article attributed the price to a statement by SCEE Germany Managing Director Manfred Gerdes, but did not say where he said it or in what context. Regardless, Sony officials have been aggressively denying the comments attributed to Gerdes, contacting numerous online media outlets to say "we appreciate you not reporting on and perpetuating this incorrect information on your Web site." However, a $300 price point for the PSP is in tune with numerous analyst predictions, which could mean that Sony's PR effort is more damage control than debunking. Then again, maybe not.

Bogus or not bogus?: Officially bogus--until Sony says otherwise.
- http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/09/25/news_6108839.html

Truth is, nobody knows how much Sony will charge for the PSP.

[Squall8x9]

shows how smart you are. . . . .
the news says it comes in silver and black. does anyone have a link to a pic of the black one?

Oh.. my... God. Idiot. They said it comes in black and silver, as in together. Meaning the system is silver with black trim and black buttons. It's not two different colored systems. God.

[Patman]

So you're just confirming the fact that thezez thinks you're an idiot? ;)

Anyhow..


- http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/09/25/news_6108839.html

Truth is, nobody knows how much Sony will charge for the PSP.
:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: people on here can be so mean. i think the psp will HAVE to cost at least $300 with all of the useless features it has. :)