Nintendo DS VS. PSP

[tiamat1990]

the psp is great even with the usual popping out of the disk...

i played metroid with these 3 americans in the hotel, i love american accents....it was fun, i didnt try the sleep feature thing though...sowi

im back in auckland...

[tiamat1990]

quick laugh...

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/pspbattery.jpg
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/somepossiblefuture.jpg

[Cramp0705]

quick laugh...

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/pspbattery.jpg
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/somepossiblefuture.jpg

LOL, those are funny, yet true at the same time.

[hei1spawn1]

yet true at the same time.


Nope, theyre not

[impulse]

I voted for the Nintendo DS.

The main reason why I voted for the DS is because it's made by Nintendo, which I've been a fan of for years.

No kidding... huh...? you voted for Nintendo because it's "NINTENDO!" what a surprise!

[hei1spawn1]

No kidding... huh...? you voted for Nintendo because it's "NINTENDO!" what a surprise!


I smell Patman ;)

[tiamat1990]

LOL, those are funny, yet true at the same time.

the batteries aren't good but they aren't that bad that you need a big battery or that box thing, isnt that for cars?

ridge racer lasts for at least 5 hours...and that game is so far, the most graphically intense game...




lol, i havent heard from patman in a long time....

[impulse]

I smell Patman ;)

MAN! I was thinking the samething! LOL

[Boro]

he's dead, i've got him locked in my basement.

[neo5595]

US PSP in March
Plus, Ken Kutaragi talks about early sales in Japan.
By Anoop Gantayat
January 5, 2005 - It's now January of 2005 and the PSP is still nowhere to be found. Unless you happen to be at a store when shipments arrive (or you, perhaps, live in the remote "inaka"), you have as much a chance of getting a PSP now as you did at launch: zero.


Did Sony Computer Entertainment screw up and not produce the number of systems it had promised? Apparently not. In comments shared with the press today, SCE president Ken Kutaragi revealed that SCE was able to ship out 510,000 systems by the end of December. This number is 10,000 more than had originally been promised.
While hardware sales were limited by supply, Kutaragi is apparently pleased with sales on the software side. He states, "We expected hardware to be insufficient, but we were able to sell more software than expected." According to Kutaragi, some PSP titles managed to top the 200,000 mark.

Kutaragi comments that the primary reason for hardware shortages was the low supply of the PSP's graphics chip, which is manufactured internally at the company's Japanese fabrication facilities. The PSP chips are produced on a 90 nanometer production line which is at the forefront of technology at Sony's plants, and it was thus difficult to increase production.

Those waiting for the PSP's American launch won't have to wait too long. Kutaragi stated today that the PSP is on schedule to see release in Europe and America some time March. That means just a couple months waiting!

SCE hopes to sell 3,000,000 PSP units worldwide by early April, Kutaragi reiterated today. This number could rise if SCE can increase production at its plants.

I guess it official then. We can expect the PSP in March!

[Patman]

he's dead, i've got him locked in my basement.
im baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack :) boromir has scared me for life, locked in a basement, being man-raped on a daily bases. the horror.......
anyway, my computer crashed and i had to build up enough money to buy this used one. miss me? ;) . plus i have been busy playing my awesome nintendo ds. i have just won $50 in a 24 player tournament of metroid prime multiplayer. what have you guys been up to? rate these games, i am posting my opinionated ratings.

Madden DS-4/10
Super Mario 64 DS-10/10
Asphault Urban GT-7/10
Feel the magic-6/10
XX/XY-6/10
Spiderman- 5/10
The Simms-9/10

do you guys agree? and im getting the psp on release date also for comparisome purposes to see if it lives up to its name.

[Vincenzo]

I think PSP becuase I believe the graphics are going to be insane! And I am also not the biggest Nintendo fan.

[Boro]

i was under the impression that feel the magic and xx:xy were the same game.

[neo5595]

Here were the 2004 sales results for Nintendo's two handhelds-

Nintendo Handheld-Hot in 2004
Strong DS and GBA sales, meet strong upcoming titles.
By David Adams
January 5, 2005 - Nintendo's always dominated the handheld gaming market, and with the addition of the Nintendo DS to the ruling class, other systems (ahem -- PSP -- ahem) will have a real challenge ahead.

Just how well are the Nintendo portables doing? Today Nintendo announced that the DS system has sold 1.3 million units in North America so far. The Game Boy Advance, long a champion, is still no slouch: the system sold 8 million units in North America in 2004. Nintendo points out that makes the GBA the nation's best-selling video game system.

The DS has more than 160 new titles already planned, including Need for Speed Underground 2, WarioWare: Touched!, Pokemon Dash, Yoshi Touch & Go, and Retro Atari Classics.

GBA owners need not worry, either, with more than 125 upcoming titles, including WarioWare: Twisted!, The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap, Mario Party Advance, Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, Pokemon Emerald, Ace Combat Advance, Klonoa 2, and Banjo Pilot.

Of course, IGN will be right here bringing you all the latest on these titles. So stay tuned, and keep those hands warm.

[tiamat1990]

is the psp region free? i might ship some games when it comes out in america......

Mario 64 DS-9/10
Sprung-5/10
Feel the Magic-8/10
Ridge Racer-7/10
Asphalt Urban-2/10

Ridge Racer-9/10
Metal Gear Acid-3/10
Dynasty Warriors-6/10

[Patman]

i was under the impression that feel the magic and xx:xy were the same game.
hence the same rating. i was just wondering if anyone would notice

[tiamat1990]

Soul Calibur DS - Continued

(Written by: Dennis)

Again, Soul Calibur DS is rumoured. This time in a Latin-American magazine...


Club Nintendo, a Latin-American magazine, reports to have received an announcement of Soul Calibur DS from Namco. The game is said to be a remake of the original Soul Calibur and to surpass all characteristics of that version, including the graphics and audio. Apart from this, an option to execute special movements using the touchscreen will be featured as well (we suspect it to be as seen in Spider-Man 2 for the NDS).

The magazine also states that gamers should not expect Link to be included in this version of Soul Calibur, since Namco does not wish to see the history be altered.



BOO!! Y not Link!!!

[impulse]

The DS needs new games NOW!

[Boro]

Castlevania DS (http://ds.ign.com/articles/577/577669p1.html)

[tiamat1990]

i knw!!! i habve finished all my games except for mario 64 but i only have 17 stars to go =) have u guyz finished it??

i cant w8 for rayman DS!! its like mario 64 right, a 3D platformer!!!!

[spiderman_2k]

News which will have huge impact on the sales of the PSP.

Rockstar Games today formally announced that it will be bringing Grand Theft Auto to the Playstation Portable platform near the system's launch this March in both North America and Europe. We have previously reported on comments made by Japanese magazine Famitsu but today's press release finally lays rumours to rest.

"Sony's extremely impressive technology has allowed Rockstar Leeds to do more on a handheld machine than we could have ever imagined. We are very excited for gamers to experience these two genre-defining franchises in a fashion that could have never before been possible on a portable system."
-- Sam Houser, President, Rockstar Games

The title will be developed by Rockstar Leeds, (formerly Mobius Entertainment) alongside a PSP version of the third iteration in the Midnight Club series, entitled "DUB Edition". Rockstar promises more frolicking around Liberty City, in what is expected to be a new title, not a port of previously released Grand Theft Auto III. We'll bring further updates about this exciting title as soon as they are available.

www.gtagaming.com

[halo7]

... must buy psp

[spiderman_2k]

This is great news, Im not expecting a 3D game, but maybe a great graphic 2D game similar to the look of the top down mode in GTA3, it would mean the city could be bigger and we could have more veichles.

[Patman]

This is great news, Im not expecting a 3D game, but maybe a great graphic 2D game similar to the look of the top down mode in GTA3, it would mean the city could be bigger and we could have more veichles.
i know that i will be complementing the psp, which will probably end up in me getting killed by the nintendo mafia, but the psp has good enough graphics to put san andreas on it you know? the graphics are the sole reason for me buying it. AAAAAAAAGG!!!......HACK!.....Spoit!....i coughed up my skull. im sorry nintendo! forgive me! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! :omg:


i feel so cheap and used, like a used ps1 being bought as a xmas present........................

[spiderman_2k]

It couldnt handle San Andreas, and the UMD discs are too small arent they?

[Boro]

i'm pretty sure a UMD holds just as much info as a GC miniDVD, so it wouldnt be able to fit SA onto one disc.

[spiderman_2k]

Some videos of THUG2, Fifa a few other EA games and Twisted Metal are upi at ign, they are looking really good, THUG2 looks the best IMO, its so smooth and sharp you could think you are watching a video of the PS2 version.

[impulse]

i know that i will be complementing the psp, which will probably end up in me getting killed by the nintendo mafia, but the psp has good enough graphics to put san andreas on it you know? the graphics are the sole reason for me buying it. AAAAAAAAGG!!!......HACK!.....Spoit!....i coughed up my skull. im sorry nintendo! forgive me! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! :omg:


i feel so cheap and used, like a used ps1 being bought as a xmas present........................

gasp! I need air... my vision is blurry! I don't think I read this right.... is that Patman's post?

[thezez]

Im sorry, come again Patman?
Were you not the one back in the beginning pages of this thread dissing the hell outta the psp?

[spiderman_2k]

Yeah, but I think the PSP has come out swinging and suprised alot of people.

[neo5595]

cant disagree with that. So far the PSP has taken me totally by surprise.

[FVD]

Whoa we're gonna have a huge fight out over the two consoles. Dammit I still hope the DS will retain it's crown. Damn the PSP is proving to be a huge threat now.

Still I ain't getting one until something truly blows me away enough in order to buying it.

FVD.

[Boro]

The DS still has me pretty excited, but i wont be picking one up for awhile. atleast not until Baten Kaitos, Xenosaga, and a few other RPG's hit the table like lunar legends and phantasy star. then again i really want to play that Tales game on the psp, but i suppose the chances of it hitting the states are slim.

[thezez]

Well, I always trusted Sony to come up with something good, I'm glad they didn't let me down.

[tiamat1990]

i have a psp!! it makes me proud to be a psp owner =)

[Patman]

i have a psp!! it makes me proud to be a psp owner =)
so, being a psp owner and all, tell us the ups and downs of it. anything that it has you didnt expect? anything that really bugs you about it that sony should have done differently?

[tiamat1990]

im pretty happy with what they did, although another analog pad would have been nice...

the popping out thing has only happened twice to me, thankfully enough

the umd's do tend to get a bit noisy....

but all in all, its kewl, i love the big screen!!!

Sony PSP-9/10
Nintendo DS-10/10

sorry but im a bit biased towards nintendo =)

[tiamat1990]

http://www.nintendo.com.au/nintendo/news/index.php

OMG!!! $200 Australian!!! thats like $130 american, talk about discount...


remember that halo thing on the gba? well this time, its on the DS

http://gba.n64europe.com/feature.php?id=3077

they even have a picture....its fake though

[Boro]

i highly doubt there will ever be a halo DS.

[Patman]

i want there to be a good zelda for the nintendo ds. Like the ocarina of time.

[impulse]

I got 30 stars on Mario, whose finished it? and what are some secrets?

[tiamat1990]

i have 6 stars to go!! i get 5 stars a day but its getting harder...

wats ur fave minigame??!?! i like the matching head thing

[Chrismck628]

hi tiamat. you have both the psp and ds? i guess it depends on if you have more games for 1, but which 1 do you play more?

[Vincenzo]

Hello everyone,

I GOT TO PLAY PSP!! No lies. I was at an audition an this guy Reid ordered one from Japan. It is insane!!! The graphics are just GORGEUS! There is also a small analog stick in the corner. This beats the DS by far....

[tiamat1990]

i like the DS more than the psp and i play it more because its nintendo...yes i know i'm biased but its not my fault i feel inlove with an italian plumber =)

beats the DS?? possibly...it does have better graphics but the DS has better games(for me..), the stick by the way slides, unlike the PS2 ones that tilt, its wierd at first but you'll get used to it, just like the way you get used to the analog for super mario 64 DS =)

i can understand this article!!! i have no idea if he is talking about the game or the story of the game!!
http://psp.ign.com/articles/579/579423p1.html

[impulse]

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/579/579543/infected-20050113032445238.jpg
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/579/579543/infected-20050113032443910.jpg
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/579/579543/infected-20050113054001650.jpg
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/572/572781/wipeout-pure-20041213030023792.jpg Wipeout Fusion will have downloadable content off the net!!! new tracks, songs, vehicles, etc...! EA sports will have 6! (yes 6!) games available at launch... How long b4 March dammit?

[tiamat1990]

is that the virus game thyr all talking about?? it doesnt look like fun...

[tiamat1990]

Ladies and Gentlemen, and fanboys, it has happened, the day we have been dreading, the psp has sold more than the DS

http://www.cubed3.com/viewnews.php?storyid=3285

[neo5595]

uuuhhh actually no, it hasnt. you forget that those numbers are from Japan(so thats not including the DS's being sold every where else) and that the DS's total units sold is more than the PSP's. So just because the PSP sold more units during one week in Japan doesnt mean it has outsold the DS.

[Cheekdilly]

A better determinate will be both system's performance throughout the year, not just a scope of a week.

[neo5595]

A better determinate will be both system's performance throughout the year, not just a scope of a week.
exactly. We also have to wait until the PSP debuts everyelse.

[tiamat1990]

fine fine, it wont change, i think...nvm

have you seen this video!!! is this really by nintendo?? they are trying really hard to get rid of the kiddie image arent thy..
http://gba.n64europe.com/index.php?id=3131

[neo5595]

good god, they are really trying to get rid of their kiddie image.

[tiamat1990]

i dont know about you but i dont think showing censored naked woman will get rid of thyr kiddie image....thats just me but they are really crossing the line

[Cheekdilly]

Well at least we know how they are planning to spend that marketing budget. Personally I think the nostalgia appeal would work better. If they are trying to get retired gamers and reach an age demographic up to 99 (or so Nintendo claims) ...they should really go old school. That commercial pretty much targets the market already hit up by Sony.

[hei1spawn1]

thats...pretty sad

[FVD]

It looks fake. Have you noticed the beach footage is from MTV. You can tell at the corner of the screen.

[tiamat1990]

its from nintendo of europe mate

[Cheekdilly]

I'm not even sure where to post these things anymore--there are like 3 or 4 threads for the PSP. Anyway- What do you all think of Ken's statements regarding the malfunctioning PSP units? It's a case of form over function. I tend to believe that form should follow function--how about you.

Here's the story if you don't know it already
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/24/news_6116985.html

[tiamat1990]

now there's something wrong with the buttons?! thank god my psp doesn't have a much problems...

the last time my disc popped out was when i was in japan...which was last year =)

[tiamat1990]

has anyone seen the need for speed underground 2 DS screenshots?? they suck!!! asphalt urban is way better!!

http://ds.ign.com/articles/582/582623p1.html

[Rotary]

That commercial is hilarious, but it doesnt surprise me.

[halo7]

got a DS ive been having lots of fun with Super Mario DS and Feel the Magic. i had alkready played the metroid demo so many times at EB i didnt really bother with it. nut yeah ive been enjpying it so far so i put some money in the bank to save up for a psp. :)

[Cheekdilly]

Nintendo is in denial. They just won't admit that the software lineup for the DS is simply not that strong. They blame the software download program and backwards compatability. But the bottom line is that most of the DS games at this point aren't worth owning.

Check out this article for full details.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/26/news_6117154.html

[tiamat1990]

OH!! look at these DS'S!!!!!

http://ds.ign.com/articles/582/582857p1.html

god i want that green one!!!


The auction took place at the company's Nintendo DS Lounge in the Motorola Lodge at Sundance where celebrities such as Paris and Nicky Hilton, Ludacris, Terrence Howard, Evan Rachel Wood, Khleo Thomas, Sean Astin, Joe Pantoliano, Seth Green, Aaron Ruell, Shannon Elizabeth, David Schwimmer, Marisa Tomei, Danny Masterson and Jason Isaacs hit up the Nintendo DS and GameCube games on display, including WarioWare: Touched for the DS and Star Fox Assault and Donkey Kong Jungle Beat for GameCube.

[neo5595]

Oh man your right! Those DS's are awesome!!! I want that green one just as much as you do!!!

[FVD]

I see Poppy Montgomery was there too. Damn she's hot.

But yes ahem, those flashy DS's look cool.

[Cheekdilly]

Not feelin' the glitter

[Spirited Away]

Ok people, the UK release for the DS was announced today!

The day: March 11
The price: £99
The games:
* Super Mario 64 DS
* WarioWare Touched!
* Pokemon Dash
* Project Rub (AKA Feel The Magic)
* Rayman DS
* The Urbz
* Sprung
* Asphalt Urban GT
* Spiderman 2
* Robots
* Tiger Woods PGA Tour
* Zoo Keeper
* Ping Pals
* Mr Driller: Drill Spirits
* Polarium
The system: Nintendo DS

27 January 2005 – Nintendo DS will change the way people play video games. Through a whole set of new features, such as touch screen, voice input and wireless communication, games can be controlled by touch or voice and the system will have two screens, not one. Today at a press conference in Paris, Nintendo announced that this innovative new console will be available to buy in the UK on 11 March at the estimated retail price of around £99 and will be supported by a strong software line up. The Nintendo DS has been received exceptionally well in the US and Japan, having sold 2.8 million units by the end of 2004, and is expected to have the same response when it launches in the UK.

Satoru Iwata, President of Nintendo Co., Ltd, comments on the new handheld console:

“Europe is an extremely important market for Nintendo, and we are pleased we can offer such a short period of time between the US and European launch. We believe that the Nintendo DS will change the way people play video games and our mission remains to expand the game play experience. Nintendo DS caters for the needs of all gamers whether for more dedicated gamers who want the real challenge they expect, or the more casual gamers who want quick, pick up and play fun.”

At launch in the UK, there will be a total of 15 games available for the Nintendo DS. The strong software launch line-up includes games such as Super Mario 64 DS, Polarium, WarioWare Touched! and Pokémon Dash from Nintendo, plus great titles from the world’s top Publishers such as Rayman DS (Ubisoft), Project Rub (SEGA), The URBZ: Sims in the City (EA) and Spider-Man 2 (Activision). And with over 120 games being developed for the system, there will be plenty to keep gamers busy throughout 2005. With a battery life of up to 10-hours, there is ample time between recharges to enjoy these great titles.

Nintendo DS will come with a free software feature called PictoChat. This allows users to write text or even create their very own drawings to send to friends within a radius of up to 100ft. The Nintendo DS, when in sleep mode, will spring to life if it senses another DS transmitting in range, alerting users that someone wants to chat or play games with them! The initial shipment of Nintendo DS for launch will also be bundled with a playable demo version of Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt.

Once again Nintendo’s innovation will redefine video game play. The Nintendo DS incorporates advanced touch-screen technology, with breathtaking 3D graphics, all in a sleek silver design. The touch screen feature allows players to get closer to the games by giving them a far more direct, faster control. Upon opening the Nintendo DS, gamers are greeted by not one, but two three inch 260,000 colour TFT screens, the bottom of which is touch sensitive. Instead of having to use the buttons and d-pad to control games, players can use the stylus, thumb strap included with the console or finger, to rub and tap their way through games.

Games can easily be played with friends thanks to the revolutionary wireless functionality provided by the Nintendo DS. Up to 16 players can communicate using PictoChat, or play multiplayer games at distances of up to 100ft. Want to play multiplayer Mario but only have one copy? Don’t fear! The wireless connection even allows a group of gamers to play Nintendo DS with only one copy of a game by using the DS download play option.

The Nintendo DS comes complete with stereo speakers and a microphone built in, setting the mood and adding to the overall interactive experience. Launch titles such as Sega’s Project Rub already use this microphone in a variety of ways, for example with games that require players to blow at the screen in order to proceed.

The Nintendo DS features two separate game slots, one for Nintendo DS games and one for Game Boy Advance games. The Nintendo DS is fully backwards compatible with all Game Boy Advance titles, and with over 550 titles, it means you can play all of your old favourites. The new format for games also means that the Nintendo DS has no moving parts that can be misaligned if the unit is dropped.

The Nintendo DS will launch in the UK on 11 March 2005 at the estimated retail price of around £99. Software will be available at selected retailers at the estimated retail price of around £29 and £19, depending on the specific title.

http://www.cube-europe.com/newsgfx/ndspack-euro.jpg
http://img200.exs.cx/img200/8286/viewimagephp5oq.jpg

[carnage4u]

Here is my thoughts

I have RL friend that has the DS and its cool. nice graphics and controls are good
my roomate came back from Japan and brought back a PSP with him. very damm slick and amazing graphics.. also a lot of fun.

I'm probably going to get the PSP over the DS< but they are both fun to mess around with.

[Spirited Away]

Games. It's the games that matter. Plus, DS has this coming up in a few weeks, which PSP won't have till ages:

http://img200.exs.cx/img200/3573/viewimagephp3iq.jpg

Apparently, it's the DS's hub for online connection. You connect it to a USB slot on a PC or Mac, and you go online. Looks like Pokemon Online is happening - oh, the tension is killing me!

[Spirited Away]

Nintendo are spending $35 million on marketing the DS in the UK and Europe. That's alot, and also includes advertising which is serialised. Each advert tells a new chapter in one large mini-story, and it's about how a kid learns how to touch.

They've also got alot of original ideas, as well as using the Japanese ones.

[Drizzt240]

Gosh.............DS isn't looking as good as I thought it would................... I'm not to hot about PSP either......

[halo7]

Games. It's the games that matter. Plus, DS has this coming up in a few weeks, which PSP won't have till ages:

http://img200.exs.cx/img200/3573/viewimagephp3iq.jpg

Apparently, it's the DS's hub for online connection. You connect it to a USB slot on a PC or Mac, and you go online. Looks like Pokemon Online is happening - oh, the tension is killing me!

i likey. I have been having the most fun With Super Mario DS it alot of fun.

[Spirited Away]

Is Wario out yet in the US? That's a leg game series, and the 3rd one looks like it'll be ace.

It's not long also until the DS bowser will be released, apparently according to rumours.

[tiamat1990]

i have been dying to play nintendo games on the net for a long time, and now its about to come true!!!! go DS!!! i cant w8 for rayman DS...i like 3D platformers now...

[Spirited Away]

EB have revealed the price of the PSP.

They are accepting pre-orders now for the system, but it'll cost you $400 to purchase it - and this is the reduced price of the system, where you also need to buy 3 games with it.

Expensive...

[spiderman_2k]

The site still says that the price given may not be the actual launch price.

[Cheekdilly]

EB does have a price on it, but like Spidey says prices and delivery dates are subject to change, and customers could end up paying more or less depending on the final price set by Sony. Credit cards won't be charged until 10 days before shipping, according to the site.

Now I see where all the rumors begin.

[Spirited Away]

Oh, okay. But it's expected to be £150 - £200 in the UK, so a $400 price tag wouldn't seem off the mark.

Anyway, i get my Nintendo DS UK VIP box set tomorrow. It's officially the 447th UK DS sold in the UK, and i ordered it through the official Nintendo UK website. They've sold all 3000 advance systems they had, so the rest of the UK have to wait until March 11th to get it.

The VIP pack consists to Metroid First Hunt, Made in Wario, Mario 64x4, the DS system, a NDS T-shirt and some extra goodies. Only £130 too, and a month in advance.

[Drizzt240]

I think I've decided to get a PSP over the DS.

[Cheekdilly]

What games you looking forward to Drizzt?

I just read that the creator of the Final Fantasy series is developing a new RPG for the DS...got me kinda interested. Anyone know anything about this studio---Mistwalker? I went to the site, but its in Japanese...and unfortunately my Japanese isn't as good as it used to be (read--never actually learned japanese)...

HEY but if you know Japanese...check out the site, its pretty decent. The art looks cool. Imagine that kinda richness of the concept art on a console or the PSP.

[Boro]

i've heard of mistwalker, but im not sure they've put out very many games yet, if any.

[hei1spawn1]

Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. announced today the North American launch details for its highly anticipated PSP(TM) (PlayStation(R) Portable) handheld entertainment system. Available through retail outlets on March 24, the company continues its consumer-centric legacy with the release of the PSP Value Pack for a suggested retail price of $249.99 U.S./$299.99 CND. In addition to the revolutionary PSP hardware, the PSP Value Pack contains an unprecedented added-value package of accessories and entertainment content, including 32 MB Memory Stick Duo(TM), headphones with remote control, battery pack, AC adaptor, soft case and cleaning cloth, movie/music/game video sampler UMD disc including multiple non-interactive game demos, and for the first one million PSP Value Packs shipped, a special UMD video release of the feature film Spider-Man(TM) 2 from Sony Pictures Entertainment.

Sony Computer Entertainment will manufacture one million units for sale in the North American market by the close of its fiscal year ending March 31. This figure is part of the company's total three-million-unit worldwide PSP system shipment estimate within the same time period. PSP released in Japan on December 12, 2004 and is already a hit, with more than 800,000 units shipped, including a 200,000-unit allocation that sold out on day one.

PSP sets a new standard as the first truly integrated portable entertainment system designed to provide consumers with a comprehensive entertainment experience including games, music, movies, communication, and wireless networking. Featuring graphics rendering capabilities comparable to the company's leading in-home console, PlayStation(R)2, PSP brings an unparalleled gaming experience to a portable platform, allowing users to enjoy 3D games, with high-quality, full-motion video, and high-fidelity stereo audio. PSP also allows for digital photo display and supports digital music playback in both MP3 and ATRAC formats.

"PSP will evolve and elevate portable entertainment, giving users the freedom to play full 3D games, watch movies, listen to music and connect wirelessly on their terms, their time and their place," said Kaz Hirai, president and chief executive officer, Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. "More than ever, today's consumer demands access to entertainment outside the home without compromising quality. With more than 100 PSP game titles currently in development worldwide, and the ability to download and listen to digital music and view feature films with breathtaking screen quality, PSP lets users control their entertainment options, all in one package."

PSP features an unmatched 4.3-inch, 16:9 wide screen TFT LCD that displays full color (16.77 million colors) on a 480 x 272 pixel high-resolution screen. PSP also comes complete with built-in stereo speakers, exterior headphone connector and diverse input/output connectors such as USB 2.0, and 802.11b (Wi-Fi) wireless LAN, enabling users to connect to the Internet and play online via a wireless network.* Up to 16 PSPs in the vicinity can also be connected to each other directly in ad-hoc mode, allowing for wireless head-to-head competition. In addition, wireless capabilities will allow software and data to be downloaded to a PSP and saved onto a Memory Stick Duo.

PSP also adopts a newly developed proprietary, compact, but high-capacity optical disc, Universal Media Disc (UMD(TM)), as its storage medium. UMD is the next-generation compact storage media, only 60mm in diameter but can store up to 1.8GB of digital data -- more than three times the data held on a CD-ROM. A broad range of digital entertainment content such as high quality 3D games, music, movies, video clips and other programs can be distributed on UMD. To protect this content, a robust copyright protection system has been developed for UMD, which utilizes a combination of a unique disc ID, 128 bit AES encryption keys for the media, and individual ID for each PSP hardware unit.

[neo5595]

Sorry, but I wont be paying the same price for a PSP as I did for a PS2. Not to mention if they games are $50 a piece, then forget it.

[cg124]

Sorry, but I wont be paying the same price for a PSP as I did for a PS2. Not to mention if they games are $50 a piece, then forget it.


I'm with you right there. thats just too much money for a handheld. I think i'll stick with the DS

[krazy_marco74]

300 dollars?? nah...i'll be waiting for it to get a lower price or when i get bored of the DS

[Spirited Away]

They should have had all the games on memory cards, like the DS. It would have reduced the price of the games, as well as the price for the slot-reader.

[Cheekdilly]

Bad move by Sony. I mean, the majority of people won't look at it as a "value pack" if they don't see the other package offering that's available in Japan. Unless you have money to spare-- why by a PSP with all of the entertainment media out there priced significantly less?

[spiderman_2k]

Managed to play a DS recently, my local Gamestation had one set up with a Wario demo game thing....I had to unroll toilet roll and slice vegetables, I wasnt too impressed with it really.

[Cheekdilly]

Its strange because you get a different reaction depending on who you show it to. I find that people who are aware of the PSP and have seen images of it are hardly impressed by the DS. Those who are out of the loop tend to be impressed by the graphical capabilities of it because its better than what they've come to expect from handhelds. So far graphics and price are really the only things setting handheld systems apart at this point to the average consumer. The other features have yet to really kick in in any major way (wi-fi, other media, etc.) so its hard to be impressed by the DS if you are expecting a lot out of it at this point.

[HeadHunter]

Managed to play a DS recently, my local Gamestation had one set up with a Wario demo game thing....I had to unroll toilet roll and slice vegetables, I wasnt too impressed with it really.


some guy was playing that for like 20 minutes at ours...all i was thinking was Looser

[whosaidwhatnow?]

some guy was playing that for like 20 minutes at ours...all i was thinking was Looser
I stood in Game for 10 mins today playing mario 64 ds :D
then put down my pre order money lol. I grew up playing the N64 and i love playing all my old games updated.

[FaceOff]

I will be picking this up. I just got in the new egm magazine and it looks sweet. Can't wait. They said the price would be $200.

[Cheekdilly]

you talking about the PSP or DS, Face? The official pricing for both are $249 and $149 respectively in the US.

[neo5595]

PSP: Online At Launch
Three North American titles are confirmed to have head-to-head net play.
By Nix
February 7, 2005 - Could it be that the PlayStation Portable will set the record as the first major videogaming system to launch in North America with internet play ready to go on launch day? Even online-ready game systems such as Dreamcast and Xbox left gamers waiting for the parent companies to roll out their major network plans, but we're about to see a handheld do on Day One what consoles took their time with. Sony has its gear together from the past two years of PlayStation 2 net development, and with its upcoming portable system capable of both local and hotspot-carried online connectivity, the company will have three of its sports games ready to connect and play online.


The three online-enabled PSP games confirmed by SCE's representatives are from the 989 Sports franchise -- we mentioned last week that Sony's 989 Sports division is experiencing a comeback year, and this effort to bring online features to the PSP versions of its titles shows how far they're coming around to make this happen. Of course, next year might be the rough ones if the battles between EA and Take-2 to buy up sports gaming rights keep going, but that's for then, and what's for now is that 989 Sports has, to our knowledge, the only online-enhanced PSP sports game. Those PSP games are:

Gretzky NHL - 989 Sports / Page44 Studios
NBA - 989 Sports / 989 Sports
MLB - 989 Sports / 989 Sports
Gretzky and NBA are entirely new franchises from 989 Sports, divorced from the old FaceOff and ShootOut lines -- the PS2 Gretzky on which the PSP game is based came out this December and won back a lot of critics with its new development team and redesigned gameplay, while the NBA game for PSP uses new graphics and a wildly different control system for an entirely new b-ball game that's both sim- and arcade-styled. MLB continues on 989's strongest franchise from the PS2, and judging from the incredible MLB screenshots of the PSP version so far, it's got a good chance of continuing on that legacy. Each of these games will feature 2-player head-to-head play either locally or on the net, and while the stat features will not be as deep as the perpetually-online console versions, there will be a lobby match-up system and a certain degree of statistics features.

The PlayStation Portable features two modes of WiFi connectivity -- ad-hoc and intranet, or local and networked. The vast majority of PSP games so far have made use of the ad-hoc mode, which simply allows PSP systems to link together and play wirelessly. Network play was an unknown entity -- although PSP is ready to connect up online with what's in the box, the relative scarcity of net HotSpots (some of which charge for service) and the complications of designing such online features for launch titles seemed unlikely. However, rumors have arisen about early PSP net play since the very beginning. Gamers have been buzzing about the possibility of there being online features in PSP launch games for months -- early screenshots of the menu systems in certain games (including two of these games, in screenshots dating back to E3 2004) featured either 'Online' or 'Network' as menu choices for the wireless play, but these option headers were expected to be just placeholder images for the WiFi feature set. (Certain Japanese games also featured the term 'Network' on their menu, but no Japanese games featured online play.) It is unknown whether any other PSP game announced so far has online features in the works.

PSP online play is also already possible via online tunneling applications, which have already been successful in linking up players via their PCs and a home wireless router using masking techniques to trick LAN play into running on the net. Coders have already gotten deep into the PSP's networking features, and the tunneling technique is already functional and can be designed to work with just about any WiFi-enabled PSP game. However, this technique requires special software and home-bound hardware, whereas officially-included WiFi play would allow gamers to connect up and play anybody online at a coffee shop, library, trade show floor, or wherever else a HotSpot is available.

Online play will likely continue to be a rare feature for the PSP until development ramps up and SCE puts emphasis in the feature, but having these three online-ready at launch is an impressive start. We'll have some hands-on experience with these games in the coming weeks to let you know if they are ones you'll want to go online with, and we'll also be hitting up other developers to ask when they're expecting to take their own PSP games online as well.

[quiksilver022]

Bought a DS. No regrets.

Can't afford a PSP anyway. Just not in my budget.

[Drizzt240]

I'm really dissapointed by the DS launch and I'm not too hot about the PSP price.

[stonefaced_1]

$350? Suck my dick.

[impulse]

Its strange because you get a different reaction depending on who you show it to. I find that people who are aware of the PSP and have seen images of it are hardly impressed by the DS. Those who are out of the loop tend to be impressed by the graphical capabilities of it because its better than what they've come to expect from handhelds. So far graphics and price are really the only things setting handheld systems apart at this point to the average consumer. The other features have yet to really kick in in any major way (wi-fi, other media, etc.) so its hard to be impressed by the DS if you are expecting a lot out of it at this point.
I agree with this...

I hope the PSP is under $200 or else I'll wait for it to reduce in price...

[Spirited Away]

It's not. It's $250 and each game is $50 min.

[spiderman_2k]

and each game is $50 min.

Actually some games are going to retail for $39.99 from launch

[neo5595]

Hell yeah!


King Kong, Sam Fisher Are DS-Bound
Ubisoft announces two more for the system.
By David Adams
February 9, 2005 - Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and a portable title based on Peter Jackson's King Kong will join Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith and Bomberman DS in Ubisoft's lineup of new titles for the Nintendo DS, according to an announcement by the company today.

King Kong is currently scheduled for release by the holidays, and the DS version of Chaos Theory should also appear later this year. Ubisoft promises to announce even more titles, based on original franchises, soon.

"Our full support of the Nintendo DS is clearly visible by the number of titles coming out with the launch," said Yves Guillemot, Chairman and CEO of Ubisoft. "We are proud to offer one of the most diverse line-ups of any major editor. Racing, platform, stealth, or action -- there is truly something for all tastes."

[Crow T. Robot]

I agree with this...

I hope the PSP is under $200 or else I'll wait for it to reduce in price...


Hey Impulse! I Havent seen you around lately. Its good to see you.

[Tornado]

King Kong? Do I smell a Rampage-type game coming up? ;)

[Drizzt240]

With each passing day the DS is looking crappier and PSP is looking better.

[Boro]

sorry to get off topic here, but i just started reading The Dark Elf trilogy and i've realized the meaning of your name drizzt. i'm assuming that you've read the books or this is just a big coincidence so i'm wondering if you know what the chronological order of the books is. i know the dark elf trilogy is the first, followed by icewind dale, but after that i have really no idea.

[Drizzt240]

sorry to get off topic here, but i just started reading The Dark Elf trilogy and i've realized the meaning of your name drizzt. i'm assuming that you've read the books or this is just a big coincidence so i'm wondering if you know what the chronological order of the books is. i know the dark elf trilogy is the first, followed by icewind dale, but after that i have really no idea.

Cool. How do you like them?

Icewind Dale Trilogy was written first, but after Salvatore wanted to show the roots of Drizzt so he wrote the Dark Elf Trilogy. I read the Icewind Dale Trilogy first, but it doesn't really matter, keep reading the DET.
Here are the order:

The Dark Elf Trilogy
The Icewind Dale Trilogy
Legacy of the Drow series (I am currently Reading),
Paths of Darkess series ( I believe it is still being written or I new Trilogy has begun)

Drizzt aslo appears in the The Cleric Quintet, though not the main character (Haven't read it, just knows he appears).

Here's a good webstite dedicated to Drizzt:

http://lavendereyes.rivkashome.com/index.php

P.S. I would stay away from the forums.

[Boro]

alright thanks :)

i think he finished the paths of darkness series because he just finished the hunter's blade trilogy, which after reading the inside pamplets of the books caused me to want to read them. however i held off for awhile because i didnt want to start in the end (or middle) of a series because i wanted to know who everyone was and what was going on, until a week or two ago i figured out the Dark Elf trilogy was chronologically first.

i'm not that far yet, but so far i'm liking it quite a bit.


on-topic save: i think nintendo needs to get some good games out for the ds or they'll be in trouble.

[konman72]

With each passing day the DS is looking crappier and PSP is looking better.
That's funny, I feel the exact opposite. My DS may not have many good games out now, but there are awesome ones coming. Meanwhile the PSP costs $250, has horrible battery life and doesn't have many games that interest me. To each his own I guess.

[Drizzt240]

Metroid plays like crap.

[Cheekdilly]

Try it in multiplayer- you pick up the controls faster since ya ain't trying to get your ass beat. If you don't know anyone else with the DS, take yours to the local gameshop where they have two set up and go at it with two friends (cheap, but effective).

[Drizzt240]

Multiplayer doesn't help the fact that the controls for that game are simply awful.

[konman72]

Multiplayer doesn't help the fact that the controls for that game are simply awful.
Personally, I love the controls for the game, they seem like a great way to present a first-person shooter without using a mouse or dual analog. Honestly the PSP seems like it is going to have the same controls as Turok and other N64 shooters which imo were not as good as either DS's or dual analog. It of course takes some getting used to, Halo and all other dual analog shooters I'm sure took some getting used to, but once you do it becomes clear that this is a handheld with pixel-perfect aiming just like a mouse and keyboard, and that is truly awesome.

[halo7]

Multiplayer doesn't help the fact that the controls for that game are simply awful.

you do realize theres like 4 control options right?

[Spirited Away]

I was just thinking the same...

[Cougars]

They justannounced that Ubisoft is going to make a Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory for the DS and they are going to make another Bomberman (one of my personal favorites) that you can play MP, I wish the PSP had some cool games like that.

[neo5595]

Im still really bummed out about the PSP's final unit price. I mean, $250 along with $50 per game?

When I bought the DS, I also bought 4 games for it. The total price I spent was around $290. On the other hand, if I were to buy a PSP and 4 games for it, I would have to spend around $450!

Sorry Sony, but Im staying away from your product until you drop that high price. I mean c'mon, its the same price for a PS2 which is a thousand times better.

[neo5595]

Heres a look at the boxart for the PSP's games. You can view the rest here (http://psp.ign.com/articles/585/585963p1.html)



http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/585/585963/psp-launch-box-20050207052945233.jpg

[Drizzt240]

you do realize theres like 4 control options right?

Either way, the one that is most user friendly should be defualt.

The controls in Mario 64 DS are also terrible when using the D-pad, but of course you can switch to using the touch screen if you want to make your like 100 times worse.

[Cheekdilly]

Did you WANT the DS to play like every other system? Trust me if you keep playing with the machine, you get used to it.

[Drizzt240]

Shouldn't have to get used to anything. I'm sure you can get used to anything with enough time. If you play Grabbed by the Ghoulies long enough you'll get used to it.

[Cheekdilly]

Don't know what grabbed by the ghoulies is. But, you're absolutely right, you can get used to anything with enough time. Which is exactly why you shouldn't write it off before you get used to it. Its like transitioning from automatic to stick shift, I'm sure some will find it awkward at first, but once you get used to it - the car drives just like any other. But you can't just bash "stick shift" cause you're not used to it, learn it, and then make a desicion about its mechanics.

[Drizzt240]

Grabbed by the Ghoulies is one of the worse games Rare has ever made.

I'm sure if you do it long enough, you can get used to eat your own crap.

[Cheekdilly]

now that's just being stubborn...but its your choice, i was just trying to open your mind up some.

[konman72]

Grabbed by the Ghoulies is one of the worse games Rare has ever made.

I'm sure if you do it long enough, you can get used to eat your own crap.
Having to get used to something doesn't make it bad. White people had to get used to having minorities use the same bathroom as them but that was a good thing. Try getting used to it, then if you still hate it, which I'm sure you will, then I can at least respect that you tried.

[Drizzt240]

Having to get used to something doesn't make it bad. White people had to get used to having minorities use the same bathroom as them but that was a good thing. Try getting used to it, then if you still hate it, which I'm sure you will, then I can at least respect that you tried.

It's a false analogy to compare a poor control design (For a specific game, Metroid) to a social revolution that took place decades ago.

I've played Mario 64 DS and the most enjoyable thing were the mini-games. The mini-games were great. I loved a lot of them. They utilized the touch screen very much, however I was greatly dismayed when the core game played blocky. As for Metroid, I don't know how you expect me to walk, aim and shoot all at the same time with those controls.

[Cheekdilly]

A lot of people I've talked with find the pseudo analog control scheme pretty satisfying for the DS. Its a new machine that was meant to approach gaming from a unique playing style. Moving in an FPS or platformer won't be the same as say Halo on the Xbox and well...Mario 64 on the 64.

It's different, that's what makes it challenging. I actually hated Halo's control scheme when I first played it, because I wasn't used to the Xbox...took a minute, but I got it down now and I kill covenant with the best of them. The same approach can be given to Metroid Hunters. And I would hate to go through the same game again using the same gameplay mechanics as the one I already beat on the 64. The new style adds a new dimension to the game and if you open up to it, it can be pretty cool. That's the last I will say on control scheme for DS games...like I said, it's your choice, love it or leave...but at least try it a few times.

Eating your own crap is a false analogy if you wanna start disqualifying comparisons by the way.

[neo5595]

exactly Cheekdilly.

You may not like the control scheme Drizzt, but you have to admit its pretty darn good for a handheld.

[Drizzt240]

It's definatly a step in the right direction. No doubt the dual and touch screen is really initiative. Though I don't feel Nintendo was able to utilize these new functions to create a great game, at least for the launch titles.

[neo5595]

IGN gave the new DS title Warioware a pretty good review.

8.0 Presentation
Several unlockables and different ways to play all 180 mini-challenges. And it's just as bizarre and out there as the past games and the series are.

7.0 Graphics
It's difficult to categorize and rate the imagery in Wario Ware simply because it's purposely all over the spectrum. But the variety of styles and graphic techniques work to the game's advantage.

7.5 Sound
Very upbeat and full of variety. There's even a couple lyrical tunes in portions of the challenges.

8.5 Gameplay
Every little aspect of the Nintendo DS, other than wireless support, is utilized in this crazed collection of quick-shot tasks. It's creative and fun, and fits the system extremely well.

6.5 Lasting Appeal
It takes very little time to plow through the first time, and less than five hours to unlock most everything. Still, the game is infinitely playable for high scores and silly toys.

8.5 OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)


Im gonna be picking this one up.

[Cheekdilly]

7.2 at Gamespot. Apparently both think the GBA version is much better.

[tiamat1990]

omg!!! guess wat guyz?!?! i got a job at EB!!! my first ever job!!! and its one that i like!!! ok so i was looking at the orders my boss is doing and the DS is coming out in 2 weeks, at $250 and games are (thnk god) cheaper by $30...but thats not why im here for

funny thing...it says psp for june 19...$350...and games are coming out on july 15?!!?(wat??)for $150....so i suppose its all fake

omg, this dude wouldnt stop asking me for the DS...his obsessed!! =) like me...=) and 50 people pre ordered today so i suppose its doing well...nintendo has never been big here in NZ

by the way, all my prices are New Zealand $

just wondering if anyone knows what this means...'touching is good but feeling is better' its about the nintnedo revolution, how theyr gonna pull that off, i dont knw..

[tiamat1990]

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2005 Sales

1.) PSP - 48,781 | 74,405 | 316,383
2.) PlayStation 2 - 47,963 | 58,673 | 353,248
3.) Nintendo DS - 29,552 | 43,226 | 279,474
4.) Game Boy Advance SP - 13,459 | 11,589 | 127,505
5.) GameCube - 6,922 | 8,214 | 47,673
6.) Game Boy Advance - 411 | 399 | 3,449
7.) XBOX - 388 | 467 | 3,038

u do realise that nintendo has all consoles in it, thyr dominatiing!!!

[spiderman_2k]

Of course they are dominating when they have 2x and 4x times the amount of entries as the other companies...Still PSP and PS2 are the two top spots by quite a big gap.

[Cheekdilly]

That's pretty much the hurdle that the PSP has to cross. I think I asked a while back how everyone thinks the GBA will factor into the sales of the DS and the PSP. So far the DS and GBA have been selling quite well together, taking a double chunk out of the handheld pie.

PSP is doing pretty well according to that chart, although I don't think quite as well as the other handhelds did since PSP was released. Remember, the DS sold 500K in its first few days in Japan. I think the PSP had a little over 200K units available in 2004 (correct me if my figures are wrong on that) and in 2005 they've only sold through 300K. I hardly relate sales to "better", but as far as financial success, so far Nintendo is punching harder in 2005. Should be a good year for the underdog, we will see how it plays out better in March.

[Drizzt240]

A lot of people I've talked with find the pseudo analog control scheme pretty satisfying for the DS. Its a new machine that was meant to approach gaming from a unique playing style. Moving in an FPS or platformer won't be the same as say Halo on the Xbox and well...Mario 64 on the 64.

It's different, that's what makes it challenging. I actually hated Halo's control scheme when I first played it, because I wasn't used to the Xbox...took a minute, but I got it down now and I kill covenant with the best of them. The same approach can be given to Metroid Hunters. And I would hate to go through the same game again using the same gameplay mechanics as the one I already beat on the 64. The new style adds a new dimension to the game and if you open up to it, it can be pretty cool. That's the last I will say on control scheme for DS games...like I said, it's your choice, love it or leave...but at least try it a few times.

Eating your own crap is a false analogy if you wanna start disqualifying comparisons by the way.

Eating your own crap isn't an analogy at all.

[Cheekdilly]

Oh boy- here we go again.

An analogy is defined by: a) a similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar. b) A comparison based on such similarity. In which case you compared 2) the similarity between getting used to the control scheme of the DS and ultimately coming to enjoy it to b) getting used to eating your own crap and ultimately enjoying it.

If you want to dismiss it as an analogy. Fine. It is still a comparison that you made in the same fashion that Konman gave his. You dismissed (a lot of dismissal on your part) his comparison because it seemed outrageous to you and I'm pointing out that yours is just as outrageous. Ok? Good.

[Drizzt240]

Oh boy- here we go again.

An analogy is defined by: a) a similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar. b) A comparison based on such similarity. In which case you compared 2) the similarity between getting used to the control scheme of the DS and ultimately coming to enjoy it to b) getting used to eating your own crap and ultimately enjoying it.

If you want to dismiss it as an analogy. Fine. It is still a comparison that you made in the same fashion that Konman gave his. You dismissed (a lot of dismissal on your part) his comparison because it seemed outrageous to you and I'm pointing out that yours is just as outrageous. Ok? Good.

Are you suggesting that if you ate your crap for 30 years you wouldn't get used to it? :confused:

[Cheekdilly]

No I'm suggesting that THAT in comparison to getting used to a control scheme is unreasonable in the same way you suggested that Konman's comparison to welcome changes such as the civil rights movement was unreasonable.

[Drizzt240]

Yes. Good point.

[Cheekdilly]

Gamespot:

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment said action films XXX, Hellboy, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, and Once Upon a Time in Mexico will be available for the PSP in mid-April, a few weeks after the device launches in North America. Additional movie releases on the new Universal Media Disc (UMD) optical media format used by the PSP will be made monthly thereafter, according to the announcement.

Not the greatest flicks ever made, but certainly not B-list. Seems like Sony's media division is really getting behind the PSP. Could be good for the future of UMD.

[sphericthor]

I'm not sure if this is mentioned at all in this thread and quite frankly I don't wanna be reading back til my last post in here to find out so here it is:

I have just found out that the Japanese Sony PSP doesn't have a region lock for the games and can have an English language interface so I would really consider splashing out a very low £230/$430 for a Japanese PSP with accessories and a game

[iv3rdawG]

Im sorry to say if theres any Nintendo fan boys out there. Later today I am going to be saying goodbye to my Nintendo DS, and trading it in to Pre-Order the PSP & 2 other games.
RIP DS,
Nov. 24, 2004 - Feb. 14th, 2005

[neo5595]

Your Sick :P

[Cougars]

Not the greatest flicks ever made, but certainly not B-list. Seems like Sony's media division is really getting behind the PSP. Could be good for the future of UMD.

What is the deal with the UMD? Do you have like a stick that stores multiple movies or is it like a stick per movie or are they stored on the PSP? And are they going to be cheaper than regular movies?

Basically - Whats the motivation here? Just an alternative to a DVD player? Cause I doubt non-game players are going to jump for joy at the PSP playing movies?

[Spirited Away]

Although UMD sounds inviting, the fact the picture quality is poor and audio is only 2.1 doesn't convince me at all.

[Drizzt240]

Im sorry to say if theres any Nintendo fan boys out there. Later today I am going to be saying goodbye to my Nintendo DS, and trading it in to Pre-Order the PSP & 2 other games.
RIP DS,
Nov. 24, 2004 - Feb. 14th, 2005

Best decision you could of made. :csgrin:

[Cheekdilly]

Im sorry to say if theres any Nintendo fan boys out there. Later today I am going to be saying goodbye to my Nintendo DS, and trading it in to Pre-Order the PSP & 2 other games.
RIP DS,
Nov. 24, 2004 - Feb. 14th, 2005

How much did you get for it?

The UMD is just a new type of media storage device. (to answer the other dude's question) If you would like to find out more details, check out IGN and the information on the PSP. Or I'm sure one of our friends from this forum will be glad to chime in and tell you more.

[quiksilver022]

Im sorry to say if theres any Nintendo fan boys out there. Later today I am going to be saying goodbye to my Nintendo DS, and trading it in to Pre-Order the PSP & 2 other games.
RIP DS,
Nov. 24, 2004 - Feb. 14th, 2005
Why? I honestly don't understand. PSP just isn't worth it IMO. Why do you want a PSP? Because it plays movies? Nintendo's Organizer Plus will be released this year (it allows Palm OS capabilities) and the video/music player comes out as well. You can get a DS, the Organizer, the media player and 2 games for the price of a PSP. Oh yeah, PSP you gotta buy memory cards, and UMD discs, too, whereas the DS's software allows you to use your own DVDs and upload them onto the DS, opposed to having to buy a DVD, then buy the UMD. I just don't find any of the PSP's games appealing, besides GTA. I feel Nintendo's line-up is superior to Sony's, for Nintendo has more online-friendly games (Yes, Satoro Iwata announced the Online Play will be coming "sooner than you expect"...Probably right before PSP launch)

[iv3rdawG]

How much did you get for it?
PSP - $250
NBA Showdown - $50
Need For Speed Undeground Rivals - $50
All together - $ 378

[neo5595]

I think Cheekdilly meant, how much did he get for his DS.

[iv3rdawG]

I think Cheekdilly meant, how much did he get for his DS.
O as the trade in? Well in that case
Nintendo DS - $120
Super Mario 64 DS - $15

[Cheekdilly]

Not bad for trade in value...well at least on the DS- you lost, what, $30? But that does seem a little too impulsive, don't you think? That's a heavy price to pay 378 (you could have put that money towards better games out now or accessories or whatever, unless money is no object to you) and I don't think, in terms of monetary value that it was worth it the risk. The PSP might dissappoint you just as much. Personally, I would have waited till after it was released and see what both companies have in store. But let us know in March if it was worth the gamble.

Added thoughts: After thinking about it, I guess my feeling is this: Iv traded in his DS because he was unhappy with its performance- fine. But I think this notion of the DS vs PSP has induced us to think its one or the other. I just don't think thats the case now. With the price point of the PSP being so high now I'm no longer concerned with whether or not I would put my money towards the PSP or the DS. I'm more concerned with whether I would spend that much on a system that is unproven. If they were similarly priced, it would be a decision between those two systems...but when I'm considering spending $378 dollars in one sitting, now my I'm thinking, I could put this money toward better use (or at least wait for a price drop and stick with my Gameboy or other gaming mechanism for now).

[iv3rdawG]

But let us know in March if it was worth the
gamble.
sure will

[Drizzt240]

I'm sure it was worth it.

Great graphics and gameplay beat run-downed remakes and clumsy controls anyday.

[neo5595]

How do you know the gameplay is great on the PSP drizzt? And run-downed remakes and clumsy controls are your opinions.

[Cheekdilly]

Anybody get a hold of WarioWare yet?

[neo5595]

This must be the dumbest move Sony is making-

Full Priced UMDs in Japan
Sony plans on pushing the UMD format at DVD costs.
By IGN Staff
February 15, 2005 - When Sony Computer Entertainment revealed solid plans to introduce a small lineup of movies to the UMD format as early as April, one area was not addressed: price. How much can we expect to pay for movies on the miniature format?

While we still don't know American pricing for video UMDs, Sony Pictures Entertainment has gone on record with plans for Japan. SPE representatives reveal that while the final lineup of releases has yet to be set, Japan will see its first UMD releases in April, similar to America. Pricing for Japan is expected to be in the same range as current DVDs, which the representatives state is between 3,800 yen and 3,980 yen.
DVDs tend to cost more in Japan than they do in America, so we expect far cheaper pricing for the US. However, if pricing strategies remain the same in all territories, you should expect to pay DVD prices for UMD movies in April.

The PSP is already way way too much for a handheld device, but now they're really milking us for all we got. Think about it....would you rather pay $20 for a high quality DVD with surrond sound, bonus features, and DVD quality video, or would you pay the same price for a UMD movie that you can only watch on a tiny screen with 2.0 sound, and average picture quality? C'mon Sony....I want an affordable gaming machine. Not some overpiced multimedia device.

[iv3rdawG]

I was gonna say, if your on the road a lot its good. But now with the labtops and the DVD Players that are around 18" and DVD players in cars. Its not really nessecary.

[FVD]

If anything the PSP is more of a gimmick NOT the DS. I'm still not impressed with the PSP one bit. I surely won't be rushing out to get one of these.

[neo5595]

likewise. The price is what freaks me out the most though.

[Drizzt240]

What really gets me is how bad the DS sucks.

[iv3rdawG]

to be honest, its not that bad drizz, its just that PSP looks better.

[neo5595]

wow drizzt. It amazes me how much supporting evidence you provided us with.

[Cheekdilly]

Question regarding playback from the UMD vids. Anyone know if its capable of fast forward, rewind, skip scenes, etc?

[Glordreen]

PSP seems to have much better graphics than the DS. Made my decision.

[Glordreen]

Also GTA on PSP is unpassable

[konman72]

PSP seems to have much better graphics than the DS. Made my decision.
No offense, but that is the saddest thing I have ever heard. To choose based on graphics shows a horrible trend that, if followed by the general gaming poulation would lead to some of the worst games ever. Graphics mean practically nothing when compared to gameplay, now understand I'm not arguing which has better gameplay just that graphics shouldn't matter. A game can have great graphics but horrible gameplay and will suck, the opposite however is not true, look at warioware or any old-school game, horrible graphics but great gameplay and therefore they are some of the best games ever.

[Drizzt240]

Yeah, good thing the PSP will have good Gameplay and Graphics......

oh wait, I forgot to mention, you can actually control your character with the PSP.

[konman72]

Yeah, good thing the PSP will have good Gameplay and Graphics......

oh wait, I forgot to mention, you can actually control your character with the PSP.
Wow dude, now it's just getting sad. Look, if you don't like it then fine, that is your opinion, but try to remain honest and....well....true when you say stuff. What the heck are you even talking about? Do I not control my character on the DS? I control him fine thank you. And imo the DS will probably have better gameplay since the PSP is basically the same stuff I've been playing for years.

[iv3rdawG]

ba-zing!

[neo5595]

Have you even played on the PSP Drizzt? Because Im not sure why you say it has better gameplay when I dont think you've even played it.

[NitWit]

if i were made of money i would say PSP

[neo5595]

If I were made of money, I would get both ;)

[halo7]

if i were made of money im pretty sure i would be inexsistent right now.

[Drizzt240]

I haven't played the PSP, but the DS got me ****ing mad. :mad:

[Drizzt240]

Some DS Screens:

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/568/568230/madden-nfl-2005-20041122061546302.jpg

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/569/569852/ridge-racer-ds-20041201105153024.jpg

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/562/562555/the-urbz-sims-in-the-city-20041101045913371.jpg

Some PSP Screens:

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/583/583173/metal-gear-acid-20050127025003319.jpg

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577572/nba-street-20050105060048180.jpg

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577942/need-for-speed-underground-rivals-20050107013435240.jpg

[Cheekdilly]

The gameplay seems fine in general. If you complained about the lack of strong releases, I would agree with anyone there. But my 5 year old daughter can play the DS with no problems or complaints, so I'm thinking its a matter of willingness to adapt to the system for old school users (or at least those used to a "traditional" style of gaming).

[Drizzt240]

The launch titles are the DS' worst flaw.

[konman72]

First off, thanks for the pics ^^^ seeing those have completely changed my mind, graphics mean everything to me. I could be horriifyingly bored, but as long as the game looks shiny and pretty then it gets a 10 from me. I am willing to spend hundreds of dollars based solely on the fact that something can portray good graphics.

Oh, wait, if graphics meant everything to me then why would I be buying a handheld in the first place? Why not take the $250 that I would have spent on the PSP and get a PS3 or Xbox 2 instead.

The launch titles are the DS' worst flaw.
Even I can agree here, the DS doesn't have many good launch games, though I'm getting warioware today and I think it will rock.

[Boro]

if graphics mean everything to you, you wouldnt be getting a handheld, or any of the consoles for that matter. you would use all of that money to make a really dank computer.

[theshiznite]

While the DS is cool, I think the PSP is better. Graphics may not mean everything, but they do mean a lot.They add to the gameplay experience. That is why I think that games on the PS2 have more action than on the N64. That is why I like the PSP more than the DS, simply because the PSP has a faster pace 3D gaming experience on the go.

[Cheekdilly]

Did the PSP suddenly do a price drop or something. All of a sudden votes are coming in on the poll today when its been at like 72 or something for like 10 months (yeah, that's an exaggeration, but you get my point)

[theshiznite]

Well, I just voted a few minutes ago and I have to say that its getting close.

[FVD]

Dammit I fear the PSP may edge the DS on our poll. I don't like the looks of this.

[Cheekdilly]

lol...oh well, the DS had a good run.

Anyway...does anyone have a particular game they would like to see done on the DS or PSP. One that hasn't already been announced.

[spiderman_2k]

Spider-Man 2 looks stunning on the PSP.

[neo5595]

definetly! It looks good, but Im still woried about the PSPs analog stick. I heard it doesnt work to well.

[Drizzt240]

Spiderman 2 on the DS:

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/568/568228/spider-man-2-20041122053229393.jpg

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/568/568228/spider-man-2-20041122053228518.jpg

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/568/568228/spider-man-2-20041122053232831.jpg

Spiderman 2 for the PSP:

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577577/spider-man-2-20050105061242578.jpg

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577577/spider-man-2-20050105061243187.jpg

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577577/spider-man-2-20050105061243531.jpg

[theshiznite]

I hope that Spiderman on the PSP is really good. I heard that the one on DS wasn't all that great. Mainly because of its control sceme and the extreme difficulty of the game. Notice Spidy's health bar on the second DS screen. The analog stub on the PSP was described to be a sliding disc that has dead spots, which means its hard to make sharp turns on a game like Ridge Racer.

Games I'd like to see on each system:
DS:a revamped Zelda Ocarina of Time, Perfect Dark, pretty much every N64 classic :D

PSP:Resident Evil 4, Metal Gear Solid 3, and an Elder Scrolls Travels game :cool:

[Boro]

resident evil 4 on the psp? dont kid yourself.

[Drizzt240]

What I really like, is the way Spiderman 2 really utilizes the dual screen feature on the DS. Amazing I tell you.

[konman72]

What I really like, is the way Spiderman 2 really utilizes the dual screen feature on the DS. Amazing I tell you.
Wow, can you say one positive statement? EVER?! Yeah, Spidey 2 didn't utilize the second screen, are you using this as evidence that the system is bad? If there was a 2D game on PSP with horrible graphics would you then use that as evidence that the system was bad as well?

[iv3rdawG]

Calm down you two














just kidding













FIGHT!

http://www.ology.org/albums/Family%20Shots/19%20Ready...%20fight!.jpg

[Patman]

What I really like, is the way Spiderman 2 really utilizes the dual screen feature on the DS. Amazing I tell you.


sony fanboy (you) vs Nintendo fanboy (me)
Round 1

the only thing the psp has that is even slightly better than the ds is the graphics, thats all. get over it.

[neo5595]

Patmans right Drizzt.

They'll both have some good and bad games, and they'll both have some really bad controls on certain games.

[Cheekdilly]

PATMAN'S BACK!!! (anyone see Tiamat lately?)

[theshiznite]

Drizz, don't put down the DS :nono: . Instead let us glorify the PSP.

[halo7]

What I really like, is the way Spiderman 2 really utilizes the dual screen feature on the DS. Amazing I tell you.

werent you the one complaining about nintendo's second screen being a gimmick?

[neo5595]

Im pretty sure drizzt was being sarcastic when he said that.

[halo7]

i know but hes complaining about how it doesnt utilize it why would he care if he doesnt like the touchscreen?

[stonefaced_1]

PATMAN'S BACK!!! (anyone see Tiamat lately?)

Who?

[neo5595]

Nice avatar Stoneface! I love that movie!

[Cheekdilly]

Who?

You know-- the little australian cat who has both the PSP and DS.

I think he (or she) got a new job which would explain the MIA

Anyway- I can't wait for the WPT game to hit the handhelds- especially if it goes online. Too bad they probably won't allow for real money bets.

[Drizzt240]

sony fanboy (you) vs Nintendo fanboy (me)
Round 1

the only thing the psp has that is even slightly better than the ds is the graphics, thats all. get over it.

You call this a slight difference?

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/568/568230/madden-nfl-2005-20041122061546302.jpg

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577942/need-for-speed-underground-rivals-20050107013435240.jpg

As far as games go, the supposed best game for the DS luanch was a runned down game I own on N64. The controls are clumsy. The best thing about the Mario 64 DS are the mini-games. There are some real fun ones, but I can't helpt to think that some were just thrown in to "fill up" the game. For example, I think the Yoshi pulling off the flowers is an insult to Yoshi. The also seperated mini-games that could of been the same thing. "Concentration" and "super concentration".

I never said I was against the touch screen. I think it's intiative and unique. I am against, however, the control scheme for some games, particulairily Metroid, an expected hit on the DS.

The only reason I'm mad, is that I would of bought the DS as soon as it came out if I didn't have some money problems (someone didn't pay me on time). Later I played Mario 64 and was disscouraged. I played Metroid and was appalled by the controls. The mini-games alone is not enought to redeem Mario 64.

As for the PSP, I haven't played it but it's looking a lot better since I've played the DS.

[Boro]

i think they need to make a 2-d metroid game for the DS, but with really good back grounds and character models. keep the touch screen stuff to a minimum, maybe it could work for a quick switching of beams or something. i'll be pissed off if zero mission was the last 2-d installment in the series (not that the prime games are bad, infact prime 1 is one of my favorite games, but the 2-d games were awesome)

[Cheekdilly]

I think the 2-Ds should stay with the GBA, no? Mostly because I would like to see them push the limits of the DS to see what they can come up with. I'm not sure I like the look of the new Castlevania- looks like they could have done that on the GBA with ease...I want something more out of the DS.

and Drizzt, you're right--as I'm sure everyone agrees...the PSP has way better graphics than the DS, but that was kinda the point right? A handheld with graphics as powerful as a home console. Whereas the DS headed in a different direction altogether. The same reasons you were thinking of buying the DS should not have changed because games you are excited about aren't out yet. Actually, I don't think anyone should have rushed to buy a DS yet (and the same with the PSP)...wait until both have developed into healthy systems with a good amount of games to choose from. Oh and that's the second time I've seen you use the word intiative...do you mean innovative or intuitive?

[Boro]

a large majority of the GBA support has been dropped since the DS came out. there really arent too many major titles coming out for it anymore. i think theres pokemon and fire emblem 2. the chances of a new metroid for the GBA are pretty slim.

[Drizzt240]

I've seen you use the word intiative...do you mean innovative or intuitive?
No, I mean initiative;)

[iv3rdawG]

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577942/need-for-speed-underground-rivals-20050107013435240.jpg

thats one of the games I pre-ordered!

[Cheekdilly]

You knew it was coming- ZELDA BABY!

from IGN
---------------
February 18, 2005 - In an interview with the French publication Liberation, Nintendo producer Eiji Aonuma commented on the next installment in the series for GameCube, and confirmed that a DS Zelda title is underway.

Aonuma, who was the level designer for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and directed the follow-up Majora's Mask, is currently overseeing the new GameCube Legend of Zelda. "I'm two-hundred percent involved in its development," he told the publication.

Shigeru Miyamoto's right-hand man was slim on details about the game. "The next episode in the Zelda series for GameCube is already coming, but I can't say absolutely anything about it," he explained. "You know the deal -- even the title and theme are still secret."

However, he did confirm two never-before-known facts about the project. "The next grand Zelda game, which follows chronologically after the Wind Waker, will be released at the end of 2005 in Japan," Aonuma revealed. The late 2005 release date in Japan would indicate that a simultaneous launch in the US could be planned.

Quizzed for more specifics on the game, Aonuma held firm, but did say: "I can reveal one lone secret: it'll be very, very beautiful."

Aonuma also spoke on a Legend of Zelda title for Nintendo DS. "There's no doubt about a Zelda game for the DS," he said. "In fact, know that our ideas for Four Swords have greatly contributed to the concept behind the DS."

The producer also noted that his work on the GBA-based Four Swords influenced the direction of the DS. "The gameplay ideas we came up with for Four Swords provided examples on what kind of games would be possible on the Nintendo DS and what kind of advantages the double-screen would enable. It was all theoretical, but today we realize it's a pity -- a real shame -- that we haven't created a demonstration of a real, great Zelda game for DS."

In addition, Aonuma spoke briefly about his career. The 40 year-old producer revealed that he had never touched a videogame before he began work at Nintendo as a designer some 17 years ago. "My first experience playing a game was Zelda: A Link to the Past. A great memory that still influences me to this date."

So what does the man who helped shape the Legend of Zelda series think of its faithful hero? "Link reminds me a lot of the little boy I just had: always happy, playful, and talented enough to get himself out of every situation."
----------

Oh and dude, how many games did you order for the PSP?

[theshiznite]

Thats awsome! It'll be interesting to see how that game uses the second screen. I just hope the game looks close to Ocarina of Time.
Also, do you guys think it would be possible for someone to have their own soundtracks on a memory stick duo and play them during PSP games?

[Cheekdilly]

I think I read something about that somewhere. Don't quote me on that, but I'm sure its possible to run media directly from the memory stick to the PSP

On another note-- does anyone think that at $249, the PSP will give mp3 players a run for their money?

[theshiznite]

Probably not. Apple, I think, shouldn't be worried by this because one could buy an Ipod mini for the same price as a PSP and they hold 4 gigs of music. But on the other hand those who want their music player and gaming device in one portable would probably go with the PSP.

[iv3rdawG]

Oh and dude, how many games did you order for the PSP?
Dos (2) Untold Legends Brotherhood of the Blade, and Need For Speed Underground Rivals

[Cheekdilly]

What happened to NBA showdown?

[iv3rdawG]

I went and changed it to Untold Legends, EB didnt mind.

[Drizzt240]

Feel The Magic XY/XX, for the DS, is an awful waste of time.

[Cheekdilly]

and we all know how unbiased your opinion is...

face it dude, you've already made your decision about the DS. You're going to be determined to be unhappy with whatever you play on it. Why not just wait till the PSP comes out and stop complaining about it.

[Drizzt240]

As of now, the PSP doesn't look much better than the DS. Best game I see for the PSP right now is Metal Gear Solid Acid, which is card based. Which I think is stupid. I heard Zelda is coming to the DS, I hope that comes out to be good. My problem is that not one single game has came out yet that has complete coherence with the DS. Not even Wario Ware Touch make totall use of the DS. Many of the mini-games don't even bother with the top screen.

[theshiznite]

For me the best looking game on PSP is either going to be Gran Turismo 4 or Twisted Metal: Head On. Metal Gear Ac!d doesn't really catch my interest. By the way, Yoshi Touch and Go on the DS looks like it will utilize both screens pretty well.

[Cheekdilly]

I think a lot of the games are doing their best to utilize the full features of the DS. Especially a game like XY XX. Yoshi Touch and Go will be another game that is DS made. The problem lies in that companies are trying to take an already established game and concept and force it onto the DS. The reason why the mini games are so fun on Mario 64 is because they were specifically designed for the DS. Sims, Madden, Tiger Woods, Metroid, ZooKeeper, Spidey and all of the other games were designed with regular gameplay features in mind and THEN made to adapt to the DS system. Some of them work better than others, but I think what needs to happen is for companies to start building games from the ground up that are specifically for the DS. Exclusive games will be this systems goldmine. You have to come up with games that you can't play on another system.

And I think that is where Drizzt and others are bothered, but its not like the games as they are are unplayable or unfun. I have a hell of a time with the games and so does the rest of my fam-- Nintendo's got something good here and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is thinking this way-- be certain that more DS ready games will pop up in due time.

[neo5595]

I couldnt agree more Cheekdilly. You hit the nail right on the head.

[iv3rdawG]

Ok, I just had to post this. Its a user comment for the PSP on the EB Games website:

____________________

Posted by: Homo Simpson: 2/18/2005
PSP, This game suks its horrible i hate it. The graphics stink the games are bad and you need a freking memory cars that cost 50 buks. This suks. Just go by ps4.

____________________

Ok first of all the PSP isnt a game lol. Another thing the graphics dont stink, the games arent that bad, you dont buy Memory Cars. And what the hell is the PS4!!?!?!?!?

[theshiznite]

Lol, that just goes to show how stupid people are getting. I'm sorta 50/50 with the PSP/DS thing. I guess I kinda feel how neo5595 feels. They're both good systems. It just depends on the kind of games a person likes. Anyway, I will be getting a PSP because the games are appealing to me (slightly more than the DS might I add). Also, I do need a portable mp3 player and movie player. But if I do end up not being able to get a PSP within a reasonble amount of time of the launch date, I'll definately pick up a DS.

[iv3rdawG]

man people are so stupid lol :funny:

[Cheekdilly]

According to the magazine's research, 2.36 million DS games were sold through February 6. As the new handheld has already sold over 1.77 million units in this market, according to research group Media Create, the tie ratio (number of games bought relative to number of users) is a paltry 1.3 games.

Apparently the feeling is mutual in Japan...the DS lineup just isn't that strong.

[HeadHunter]

And what the hell is the PS4!!?!?!?!?

Its the future man :P

[theshiznite]

Apparently the feeling is mutual in Japan...the DS lineup just isn't that strong.


Yeah I didnt really find the launch titles over here all that interesting (except for mario 64 of course). To be honest, thats the only game that are keeping my feelings towards both systems sorta on an even plain. I can certainly say though that the PSP has a pretty strong lineup. I just can't wait to play Twisted Metal: Head On.

[Drizzt240]

PSP Starting Line Up Highlights

NBA Street Show Down
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577572/nba-street-20050105060048180.jpg

Need For Speed Underground Rivals
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577942/need-for-speed-underground-rivals-20050107013440333.jpg

Spiderman 2
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577577/spider-man-2-20050105061242578.jpg

Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/004/920777_20050105_screen003.jpg

Twisted Metal: Head On
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577582/twisted-metal-head-on-20050105061927559.jpg

Infected
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/579/579543/infected-20050113032445238.jpg

Metal Gear Acid
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/547/547240/metal-gear-acid-20040913093757451.jpg

GRAND THEFT AUTO
Rockstar has announced a Grant Theft Auto title that will take place in Liberty City, is scheduled to be a luanch title for the PSP.

At the Japanese luanch of PSP, 18 games were offered. Many of those will be avaliable stateside as well as some new ones. Other titles are currently in development that will be released after the initial luanch, the Godfather being one example.

[iv3rdawG]

Whats Infected?

[iv3rdawG]

Woah, just looked at it and it seems pretty cool another pic its gonna have wireless multiplayer where you can spread the infection to other PSP's :P to bad we have to wait till October

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/579/579423/infected-20050112102416786.jpg

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/579/579543/infected-20050113054001650.jpg

[neo5595]

The Grand Theft Auto game will be available by March 29th? You'd think we see some pictures of it by now.

[Drizzt240]

Several sources are saying it's going to released as a launch title.
I think Rockstar is trying to suprise everyone or something.

[spiderman_2k]

Gamespot has it down as a 15th of May release.

[Drizzt240]

Hmmm......GameInformer said it would be a luanch and IGN reports:


Rockstar Games today announced that a new Grand Theft Auto title and a portable version of Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition are in development for the Sony PSP. Rockstar expects to release both titles close to the PSP's North American launch (which means, hopefully, March).

I guess we'll see though.

[theshiznite]

It could be possible that Rockstar is trying to suprise us, being that this is the first 3D GTA on a portable. Can't wait to see some screens and gameplay footage.:) I heard that it would be launched in May.

[spiderman_2k]

and IGN reports:

It doesnt say that it will be a launch game just that it will be close to the launch date, and a month and abit after is pretty close.

[neo5595]

Im guessing it will be out in May. We probably would've seen at least one pic by now if it was to come out as a launch title.

[spiderman_2k]

Sony report that the Square button problem on the PSP's in Japan will not be present in the American models, whicch I guess means Europe too.

[Drizzt240]

Yeah, I guess it will becoming out a little later after the luanch. Damn, lying GamerInformer!

[neo5595]

DS Download Service Begins in Japan
Find out what gamers in Japan can expect this weekend.
by Anoop Gantayat
February 25, 2005 - Nintendo Japan has announced the start of a new download service for the Nintendo DS. Set to take off this weekend, the service will allow DS owners to make downloads to their system by connecting to kiosks placed at selected retailers throughout Japan.

The first download includes playable demos of Meteos and Hitofude along with a number of song updates for Band Brothers: Toko Toko Yoshi (Catch! Touch! Yoshi!), Jungle Beat (Donkey Konga), Slider (Mario 64) and Ashley (Sawaru Made in Wario). The Band Brothers update also includes a two-part set of Kid Icarus songs.
Those who make the download to the DS will be able to keep playing the Meteos and Hitofude demos so long as they don't power off the system. The Band Brothers songs remain as saved data even if the system is powered off, although you need to actually have the Band Brothers game, of course.

[tiamat1990]

im back, hopefully, been so flippin busy, job, college crap, MIT and all that, anywayz all i can say is i cant wait for NFSU2 on the DS, looks kewl, rivals for psp is ok i suppose....oh and im not australian, i live in NZ, im really late in the news so um, i heard about GTA for psp, is this true?

drizzt, if u think gameplay for ds is crap, i dont see how you actually like the psp, ok, i agree that none of the games are completely "groundbreaking", but its good enough for me, have u played mario 64 minigames? thiose are pretty funky

cant blame ya if you love the graphics so much though...and the BIG screen =) i like it too...especially while playing rivals...oh god are they pretty, but i still like the DS more
=)

gotta gapz, i got assesments due in a week, l8rz

[Drizzt240]

im back, hopefully, been so flippin busy, job, college crap, MIT and all that, anywayz all i can say is i cant wait for NFSU2 on the DS, looks kewl, rivals for psp is ok i suppose....oh and im not australian, i live in NZ, im really late in the news so um, i heard about GTA for psp, is this true?

drizzt, if u think gameplay for ds is crap, i dont see how you actually like the psp, ok, i agree that none of the games are completely "groundbreaking", but its good enough for me, have u played mario 64 minigames? thiose are pretty funky

cant blame ya if you love the graphics so much though...and the BIG screen =) i like it too...especially while playing rivals...oh god are they pretty, but i still like the DS more
=)

gotta gapz, i got assesments due in a week, l8rz

GTA will becoming to the PSP. It will take place in Liberty City.

And I have played Mario 64 and the mini-games were the best thing about the game.

[impulse]

I hate to say it... but awhile ago I gave the DS props... (and I still do) It has potential BUT THEY ARE NOT UTILIZING IT!

Great Games = Great system

No Games = No system

I think Sony will take it... cuz they will have WAY more support from 3rd parties and fans...

Nintendo needs more games... I've stop playing mine like a month ago... and whenever I go to EB games there are never any new games...

PSP has several games that has me interested on launch... and the MP3 player has me anticipating the launch... The price is just ARGGH!

[spiderman_2k]

Amazon.co.uk has the PSP listed as an April 29th release date over here in the UK...It has a £179.99 pricetag and games are listed at £29.99 each.

EDIT... Gameplay.com has it listed as a May 20th release...Bah.

[FVD]

I ordered my DS off Ebay back in January and the ***** ran off with my money. Dammit I'm pissed. All that money gone. There's no way I can get it back now :angry:

I'm just glad that Ebay kicked her off. And her feedback was generally positive too.

I wanted to be one of the first NZer's to own a DS but now that it's officially out in the country that's been tarnished :(

I gotta save up all over again :mad:

FVD.

[tiamat1990]

HOLY ****!!! Game Boy Evolution by the end of this year?!?! FAR OUT!! check this out!!
http://www.dsupdate.net/2003/01/ds-gbe-vs-psp.html

i cannot wait till E3, things are going to be happening there!!! i need to catch my breathe, ill be bak to rampage more!!!

[FVD]

Wow that sounds awesome. Playing Gamecube games on a handheld. GBE bring it on.