Nintendo DS VS. PSP

[Patman]

The PSP was recently hacked, allowing the use of emulators. the emulators are still pretty new and are kinda slow, but the NES one works great. having literally thousands of games on your beautiful PSP screen is definalty worth the money.
say what???????????????????????????????????????????
whats an emulator pls explain

[insaneMoViEgoer]

from wikipedia
A console emulator is a program for a computer, or other computing device, that can emulate a video game console or handheld, so a computer can be used to play games that were created for that console or to develop games for that console. Such tools are often used to translate games into other languages, to modify (or hack) existing games, or to produce homebrewed demos. Console emulation can also be achieved between consoles (hence cross-console emulation), making a modern video game console emulate a less advanced one.

[Patman]

sweet where do you get the nes games and how much are they?

[tiamat1990]

some are free....i have super mario RPG on my DS right now, almost finished

i forgot the site....its like something vault.com.....vellavault?? can't remember

oh and i quit, i hate working in EB...its so friggin boring and theres all these snotty nosed children yelling at their mothers, might work in Vodafone or something....

[Mr. Frodo]

Does anyone find it ironic that the only new games (besides excellent launch titles) worth playing on the PSP at the moment are old Nintendo ones?

I grew up with old nintendo games, no matter what system i have i will always love them. and the fact i can carry around all those games is truely awesome, the psp is the better handheld .....hands down. :P

[Tim the Wiz]

I grew up with old nintendo games, no matter what system i have i will always love them. and the fact i can carry around all those games is truely awesome, the psp is the better handheld .....hands down.

I understand that and I hope you enjoy the PSP as your handheld of choice, for me however, the DS is looking to be my favoured one.

My PSP is getting less and less playtime (only Lumines gets my playtime), and besides using it to surf the net at times (the novelty is wearing off) and watching movies from sources other than UMD, it'll soon be finding my shelf. As a gamer I hope Sony put something on it, because I'm actually disappointed. (GT Mobile, GTA, SOCOM and all those other ports don't cut it either ...)

Now looking at the DS, the system has gone from being a gimmick at launch to a system which I actually use on my daily commute. (It also joins the iPod as one my favourite portable devices)

Right now Electroplankton, Kirby, Band Brothers and more have my attention, and with so many games coming ...

*thinks of Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Trace Memory, Under the Knife, Ace Attorney, Meteos, Advance Wars 3, Mario and Luigi 2, Snowboard Kids, Metroid Dread (2D), Metroid Pinball, Castlevania, Lost in Blue, Age of Empires, NEW Super Mario Bros., Boktai 3, Winning Eleven, Legend of Zelda, Viewtiful Joe: Scratch, Ultimate Brain Games, Nintendogs, Nanostray, Bomberman 2 (online), Sonic Rush, Zelda, Final Fantasy 3j, and Seiken Densetsu (Secret of Mana)*

... it's almost overwhelming, especially with so many being online! Here's my opinion: it's not about the system, it's about the games. And with so many quality games, the DS gets my support. Talk about the graphics, talk about all the other snazzy features, but when it comes to gaming, the DS has it over the PSP. And when it comes down to multimedia capablities, the PSP really can't compete with the other devices I have.

Nintendo said it best:

I think people enjoy playing games that are really more suited for a handheld rather than just household games that are brought to a portable platform.

To sum up, DS > PSP at this point, in my opinion.

(PS: Emulation is fine on the DS, as well. So that's another good point.)

[Mr. Frodo]

fair enough, but i just don't "get" the DS, i mean the whole touch thing dosn't grab my attention at all. and for games, i mean we all played them before, mario... zelda... metroid... etc... and the PSP is a media center with games, movies, and music. I understand its probably not as good as an IPOD or a portable dvd player but i don't have one so for me it kills 3 birds with one stone, and the fact that i only had to pay 48 bucks for it to dosn't hurt either. lets face it the quality of the PSP overwhelms the DS. sure there are not that many games out right now but it takes time. plus the use of the PSP with the PS3 when it comes out, time will make the PSP better.

[tiamat1990]

what do you mean we've played it all before?? haven't you played GTA before?? well thats coming out on psp...and so is gran turismo and metal gear and we've played all those before....=)

the DS can connect to the Revolution, =), oh these smileys can be so evil

what do you mean it only cost you $48???

[Mr. Frodo]

what do you mean we've played it all before?? haven't you played GTA before?? well thats coming out on psp...and so is gran turismo and metal gear and we've played all those before....=)


too true. i dont' like the fact that all games now a days are GTA 5 or Zelda 7 etc... new games with new concepts should be made.

oh and i traded in my gba sp and like 10 gbp games and got 202 dollars in store credit at Gamers here in Lincoln so i only had to pay 48 bucks, not a bad deal huh?

btw i got my first psp game today, Lumines because it was cheap and i like puzzle games. its pretty neat.

[Tim the Wiz]

fair enough, but i just don't "get" the DS, i mean the whole touch thing dosn't grab my attention at all. and for games, i mean we all played them before, mario... zelda... metroid... etc...

Actually, you have a complete opposite view from what I have on the situation with the games on the DS. Look at Meteos, Band Brothers, Trace Memory, Under the Knife, Ace Attorney, Lost in Blue, Nintendogs and Nanostray. You haven't played these games before and even the same old franchises from Nintendo, Konami, etc., they are always different, evolving and transforming when they're made as portable software for portable-focused hardware. Example: Metroid. Look at your usual Metroid game on the SNES or GCN. Now look at Hunters. It's a fresh take on the series with an all-out FPS twist. Example: Kirby. Look at your usual Kirby game. It's usually a platformer, adventure or racing title. But with the DS version we get a unique twist on the platformer by drawing rainbows to advance. And the execution has been superb. (Look at the high review scores from IGN to GameSpot)

too true. i dont' like the fact that all games now a days are GTA 5 or Zelda 7 etc... new games with new concepts should be made.

Then why support a system where new concepts are not and probably never will be part of the programme. SOCOM, GTA, Gran Turismo, etc. How many ports does it take people to realise that the PSP is primarily focused on bringing the console experience to the handheld, with a lack of focus on new concepts. You really are contradicting yourself here.

oh and i traded in my gba sp and like 10 gbp games and got 202 dollars in store credit at Gamers here in Lincoln so i only had to pay 48 bucks, not a bad deal huh?

I could never trade in my favourite GBA games, but whatever floats your boat.

lets face it the quality of the PSP overwhelms the DS. sure there are not that many games out right now but it takes time.

The quality of the PSP has in no way or form overwhelmed the DS. In sales the DS is first worldwide. In production Nintendo is shipping 8 million more units of the DS than than Sony's PSP. In games, Nintendo's offering hugely overwhelmed the PSP's lineup at E3. Of course these are all subjective issues, but these facts disprove the theory that the PSP has overwrought the DS in any way or form, at the moment.

Enjoy your wait, while I'm playing through Chrono Trigger and Mario Kart online on my DS this Christmas. ;)

[Mr. Frodo]

Then why support a system where new concepts are not and probably never will be part of the programme. SOCOM, GTA, Gran Turismo, etc. How many ports does it take people to realise that the PSP is primarily focused on bringing the console experience to the handheld, with a lack of focus on new concepts. You really are contradicting yourself here.



well is wanting the console experience to the handheld a bad thing? shouldn't that be the next step in handheld gaming? we are at the stage where technology should push the handheld to the next level. and don't tell me nintendo has more focus then sony i mean just look at the DS to PSP, DS you can play games and touch the bottom screen. PSP, you can play games on the beautiful screen, listen to mp3's and watch UMD videos, for me the one with more value and direction is the psp. but hey you can like whatever you like and the same for me.


oh and nintendogs..... go back 7-8 years ago and look up dogs 1-3 or cats 1-3

[db604]

well is wanting the console experience to the handheld a bad thing? shouldn't that be the next step in handheld gaming? we are at the stage where technology should push the handheld to the next level. and don't tell me nintendo has more focus then sony i mean just look at the DS to PSP, DS you can play games and touch the bottom screen. PSP, you can play games on the beautiful screen, listen to mp3's and watch UMD videos, for me the one with more value and direction is the psp. but hey you can like whatever you like and the same for me.


oh and nintendogs..... go back 7-8 years ago and look up dogs 1-3 or cats 1-3

everyone keeps saying the psp is better because of its multimedia copabilities, but what about the games? I own a psp and a ds (and i just got my wipeout pure gamma pack 2, for those of you that havent downloaded it yet) and i never owned a ps2, so for me its a new experience for a few games, but i did notice that most games for the psp are ports from the ps2. As for the ds, its a new take on games, but sure games like the new super mario bros, are just 3d versions of their 2d counterparts, they are trying to add a new aspect to the game.

You also said 'shouldn't that be the next step in handheld gaming?' So why should the fact that it plays movies and mp3s be a factor?

Oh yea, btw, how many of you guys actually buy UMD Movies?

And, remember before when everyone was bashing the ds by saying 'the psp has gta, while the ds has nintendogs.' Then all of a sudden nintendogs gets a 40/40 in famitsu, and it triples ds sales. How ironic...

[db604]

Ok then, so what games are your guys most aniticipating?

im waiting for:

Advance Wars DS
Animal Crossing DS
GTA: Liberty City Stories
Death Jr.

[halo7]

everyone keeps saying the psp is better because of its multimedia copabilities, but what about the games? I own a psp and a ds (and i just got my wipeout pure gamma pack 2, for those of you that havent downloaded it yet) and i never owned a ps2, so for me its a new experience for a few games, but i did notice that most games for the psp are ports from the ps2. As for the ds, its a new take on games, but sure games like the new super mario bros, are just 3d versions of their 2d counterparts, they are trying to add a new aspect to the game.

You also said 'shouldn't that be the next step in handheld gaming?' So why should the fact that it plays movies and mp3s be a factor?

Oh yea, btw, how many of you guys actually buy UMD Movies?

And, remember before when everyone was bashing the ds my saying 'the psp has gta, while the ds has nintendogs.' Then all of a sudden nintendogs gets a 40/40 in famitsu, and it triples ds sales. How ironic...

Yes quite ironic? :confused:

[halo7]

Im looking forward to:
Coded arms
Animal Crossing DS
GTA: Liberty City Stories
Super Mario Bros
Dead to Rights: Reckoning
Infected
And the two games i cant remember the name of... One was about laywers and the other was an ER game i think.

[Mr. Frodo]

You also said 'shouldn't that be the next step in handheld gaming?' So why should the fact that it plays movies and mp3s be a factor?



if you read my post again, i was reffering to the Console experience coming to handheld. and well yes that does apply because look at the next gen and current consoles, they are not just game machines xbox and ps2 play dvd's, and cd's, the xbox has a hard drive you can save mp3's on so yeah, it is the next step.

im not saying the DS is a piece of garbage, im saying for me the psp has more "value" and more of an X factor then the ds. i can do so much with my psp just today i was coming home from work, and i bought one of those tapes with a cord on it that connects you your portable cd players so you can listen through your car speakers, well i hooked it up to my PSP and was jammin to Meat Loaf :csgrin: and well sure there are ports like gta, or ape escape, metal gear, but Mario 64 ds is a direct port of well mario 64 is it not, with the fact you can control him with the stylus or you can be yoshi, how is that a new concept?

[halo7]

Rayman DS is a direct port also.

[tiamat1990]

oh i could also go on saying Gran Turismo is a port and etc but i wont...

im looking forward to:
Mario Kart DS
Metroid Prime Hunters
Lumines(its not out here....neither is the psp >=()
Infected
Trauma(?) Center: Under the Knife
Coded Arms
Phoenix Wright:Ace Atornney(?)

both handhelds will have ports like it or not....no i don't UMD movies, first of al i cant and i wont anywayz....maybe except for FFVII Advent Children...

anyone here have a DS that isn't silver(platinum...watever u call it)?

[db604]

if you read my post again, i was reffering to the Console experience coming to handheld. and well yes that does apply because look at the next gen and current consoles, they are not just game machines xbox and ps2 play dvd's, and cd's, the xbox has a hard drive you can save mp3's on so yeah, it is the next step.

im not saying the DS is a piece of garbage, im saying for me the psp has more "value" and more of an X factor then the ds. i can do so much with my psp just today i was coming home from work, and i bought one of those tapes with a cord on it that connects you your portable cd players so you can listen through your car speakers, well i hooked it up to my PSP and was jammin to Meat Loaf :csgrin: and well sure there are ports like gta, or ape escape, metal gear, but Mario 64 ds is a direct port of well mario 64 is it not, with the fact you can control him with the stylus or you can be yoshi, how is that a new concept?


ok, i get your point with the cosole coming to a handheld, but what i meant by a new concept is by how they tried to add new controls and a different way to play games. Sure, not everything works, but its a risk in this growing market. So yeah, I guess in a way both of these companies are moving forward, with the psp movie in the 'multimedia + console coming to handheld' while nintendo, because they have been in handhelds for a while, try and break the traditonal d-pad + A/B buttons only and make something that will work with new gamers, as well as those core gamers.

I guess the psp could have more value in a sense because of the fact you dont have to carry multiple gadgets with you, and its like 'a jack of all trades, master of none'(it wont dethrone the iPod, or most mp3 players, and until the movies come down, or unless they make a home UMD player, then it won't pose a threat, for now) but then you have to also consider the extra cash you throw to buy a memory stick. But yeah, i have used it just to go around before and yeah, its functional enough, i usually use it as speakers when im just chillin at a friends house or something though :csgrin:

In the end, it just depends on if u really need the multifunctions I guess, because sometimes I bring my ds and my mp3 player with me when I go out and my mp3 player is relatively small, but I guess sometimes having to bring 2 things is a hassle. When I brought my psp with me I just watched music videos on my way to where I was going, which was easier than carrying two things.

[db604]

both handhelds will have ports like it or not....no i don't UMD movies, first of al i cant and i wont anywayz....maybe except for FFVII Advent Children...

Ports, what can you do? We will eventually run out of ideas for games :hehe: Imagine a game like Pokemon Quartz or something, and a GTA: Running Outta City Stories..

Yeah, thats one UMD movie I was thinking of buying. Advent Children because I want to actually own it, and the rest I just need to get a memory stick thats has enough space.

[Tim the Wiz]

well is wanting the console experience to the handheld a bad thing?

No, wanting a console experience on your handheld isn't a bad thing. But you said ...

new games with new concepts should be made.

That's difficult to create when you're just porting console experiences to the handheld. All I'm saying is that you are contradicting yourself heavily here.

shouldn't that be the next step in handheld gaming? we are at the stage where technology should push the handheld to the next level.

Unfortunately, it seems like the majority of people still prefer the 'gaming ghetto' of Nintendo's 'underpowered' handhelds. I really think people don't understand the big difference between a handheld gaming device and a home gaming device. Handheld gaming is at it's best when you have a game that's easy to pick-up and play, yet with deeper levels of gameplay. If you just want home console games, why not just go play them on your home consoles? People will be voting with their money this holiday season in which direction they're going.

and don't tell me nintendo has more focus then sony i mean just look at the DS to PSP, DS you can play games and touch the bottom screen. PSP, you can play games on the beautiful screen, listen to mp3's and watch UMD videos, for me the one with more value and direction is the psp.

im not saying the DS is a piece of garbage, im saying for me the psp has more "value" and more of an X factor then the ds.

All of that is highly subjective. In fact your 'logic' here could do with a bit more reasoning. Anecdotes and throwing around terms like 'value' and 'X factor' don't cut it. Otherwise it's just your opinion, and you should state it as such.

oh and nintendogs..... go back 7-8 years ago and look up dogs 1-3 or cats 1-3

Please read this (http://lostgarden.com/2005/06/nintendogs-case-of-non-game-that.html) review of the workings and concepts in the game.

both handhelds will have ports like it or not

It's pretty obvious to see which handheld has more ports and more games with a lack of new concepts, as well as a lack of handheld assimilated games. Don't make me pull a list here.

but Mario 64 ds is a direct port of well mario 64 is it not, with the fact you can control him with the stylus or you can be yoshi, how is that a new concept?

Umm, yes it is. Controlling a character with a touch screen through the input of a stylus or thumpad has never been done before in the history of handheld gaming devices. That's a new concept. Was it applied well? Was the game the best one for it? Maybe not. But it was still a new concept and if you look at the many other games with fresh concepts and fresh IPs, you can see it executed much better. (ie Kirby, Meteos, Trace Memory, Lost in Blue and plenty more)

In the end, it just depends on if u really need the multifunctions I guess, because sometimes I bring my ds and my mp3 player with me when I go out and my mp3 player is relatively small, but I guess sometimes having to bring 2 things is a hassle. When I brought my psp with me I just watched music videos on my way to where I was going, which was easier than carrying two things.

Agreed. The problem for me is that the PSP is expensive to provide media for, is hard to just take with you because of it's fragility and it has very, very few games that I actually want for it. As said before, the only reason I still have the PSP is because of Lumines.

but hey you can like whatever you like and the same for me.

No problem with that here. But just stop stating unfounded conclusions as fact, thanks.

[Mr. Frodo]

All of that is highly subjective. In fact your 'logic' here could do with a bit more reasoning. Anecdotes and throwing around terms like 'value' and 'X factor' don't cut it. Otherwise it's just your opinion, and you should state it as such.

im not saying the DS is a piece of garbage, im saying for me the psp has more "value" and more of an X factor then the ds.

But just stop stating unfounded conclusions as fact, thanks.

You seem to be the one with the facts, mine were opinions.

[db604]

No, wanting a console experience on your handheld isn't a bad thing. But you said ...



That's difficult to create when you're just porting console experiences to the handheld. All I'm saying is that you are contradicting yourself heavily here.

Actually, I believe that Frodo was talking about how our consoles now have multimedia capabilities and that the console experience to a handheld is that now you can listen to music, manage multiple game saves, play games, and use it to watch movies just like how the xbox and ps2 are capable of this(i wish i could say gamecube too, but until, possibly, the revolution, I doubt we have multimedia functions. Actually there is also this upgrade to the play-yan which allows you to play mp4 movies in stereo sound. http://ds.ign.com/articles/629/629224p1.html)

Haha, If you've noticed I've got from commenting Frodo's quotes to backing his quotes..

[BWSword]

tomorrow comes splinter cell for ds...anyone planning on buying it?

[db604]

tomorrow comes splinter cell for ds...anyone planning on buying it?

I heard that the frame rate is kind of slow, of course, its a stealth game anyways. Im not sure though, I just want to see what reviewers have to say about it. With the mix of great and ok games released this month, I will probably end up buying it.

[Tim the Wiz]

You seem to be the one with the facts, mine were opinions.

My mistake on those two quotes. :D Didn't notice the words 'for me'. Other than that I might disagree with your contradictory position, but I respect the handheld which you choose to spend your money on. Let's keep it at that, thanks. ;)

[Mr. Frodo]

agreed :)

[db604]

well, now that thats settled, what games are you guys looking forward to?

[Mr. Frodo]

im curious how madden plays on the psp.

[BWSword]

I was trying to get feedback for thoses who got it and see what they think of it...?

[tiamat1990]

so far i have(i own, not want)

DS
Nintendogs
Electroplankton
Kirby Canvas Curse

PSP
Ridge Racer(i will never get sick of this, who doesn't like doing 360s?)
Wipeout Pure
Tales of Eternia

[tiamat1990]

splinter cell DS got 6/10 from IGN, because of bad controls, framerates and
sound(and this is a very important to me)

[iv3rdawG]

Well after a lot of thinking over the past week, I went and bought myself a blue DS with Kirby Canvas Curse, WarioWare: Touched, and Supermario 64 DS. I got Mario for free with a bundle. Kirby is actually really fun, it has been said by many that Kirby has done the best of any the DS games to use the touch screen peripheral. Wario Ware is fun also, just a quick question. How do you get toys for your toy room in WarioWare?

[iv3rdawG]

The games and movies I have for my DS & PSP:

Nintendo DS Games:
1. WarioWare: Touched
2. Kirby Canvas Curuse
3. Supermario 64 DS

PSP Games:
1. Lumines
2. Need for Speed Underground: Rivals

PSP Movies:
1. Kill Bill Vol. 1

and tiamat1990, how do you have Nintendogs already? Do you live in Japan?

[Boro]

tiamat either imports or visits japan. tales of eternia and electroplankton havent made it to the states yet either, and i'm not sure they ever will.

[tiamat1990]

either when i go to japan to visit relatives or i use liksang, so yes i import

[FVD]

Dude you must travel to Japan a heck of a lot.

[tiamat1990]

twice or thrice a year...but now...i might not go as much...maybe once every two years from now, dont know

[impulse]

OMG... I got a ton of Nintendo and Super Nintendo games on my PSP... love my 1.5!!!!!!!

[Imagination_13]

I made the idiot move of updating to 1.52... Are there any emulators that'll work with it? :(

[BWSword]

I wish I could play snes/nintendo games on my psp it's hard to understand how to do it...

[impulse]

as of right now no imagination...
BW sword it's very simple actually...
just go to PSPHACKER.com or PSPDRIVE.com and they'll show you how
you have to download a file called KXexploit (sp?) and then go to just finds SNES or NES roms on the net...

[BWSword]

like I have snes, gba, sega roms, and I know that site...ect...I just want to know how to put it on my psp. I tried on and simple made a folder in my psp called snes (as example) and tried it and nothing happen...unless there something else I'm doing wrong like a different name for the folder?

[impulse]

BW you have to put in the emulator with KXexpolit... go to the other PSP thread in here... I posted a site that gives you a step by step format on how to do it...

[impulse]

this is a download page for kxploit
http://files.pspupdates.com/cgi-bin/cfiles.cgi?0,1,0,0,38,469

[BWSword]

I just download kxpliot and now do I make a folder called kxpliot and btw what emulator is this for sega, snes, nes, or gameboy??

[cg124]

if you need a site to find games for your emulator try

www.vimm.net

[impulse]

I just download kxpliot and now do I make a folder called kxpliot and btw what emulator is this for sega, snes, nes, or gameboy??

no... if you did it right... then it makes it for you... what you do now is find the emulator you want (I'd go with NES or SNES as they are the easiest and most functional to run) and use the Kxploit program to put it on your PSP... you take the .PBP file from the emulator once you download it and place it in the Kxploit, name the file to what you want it to be name and point Kxploit towards your PSP... once it puts the emulator on your PSP you place the roms you want into the NON % file... and wallah you can have literally hundreds of games on your PSP... I have over 100 now....

[impulse]

if you need a site to find games for your emulator try

www.vimm.net


CG you have to pay for those roms...
go to rom-world.com instead...

[tiamat1990]

ooooooo....i want snes games on my psp!!! oh and btw, theres a white one coming...it looks ugly though...i already have a white DS...i'll stick with the black psp...its pretty

[insaneMoViEgoer]

heres a pic of the white one.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/news/07/22/sony_screen007.jpg

[impulse]

A clear one would be sweet.... that white one makes the screen stick out kinda unattractive...

[tiamat1990]

omg it is ugly...

[Imagination_13]

Heh, I'm posting this from my PSP. :) The browser in the 2.0 update is great.

[Furor]

i have a DS w/ meteos.
the psp is cool but its too expensive.

[BWSword]

I don't get it...I put a genesis emulator on the psp but it doesn't detect it...?

[rulerofworld]

Heh, I'm posting this from my PSP. :) The browser in the 2.0 update is great.


thats sweeeeet

[Imagination_13]

Yeah, it's rawkin'. The only problem I have is you have to type with this:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/5285/picture0943ox.jpg

[BWSword]

Heh, I'm posting this from my PSP. :) The browser in the 2.0 update is great.

where this 2.0 at?

[The WupZter]

PSP is better, but I'll take DS anytime!

How do you update to 2.0?

[Imagination_13]

There's a japanese 2.0 update that you're not supposed to install on American PSPs, which is here (http://www.pspupdates.com/2005/07/psp-system-software-version-20-update.html). As you can see there's a warning on the page. I haven't experience any problems, but if you want to be safe wait until the US release.

[tiamat1990]

i've updated my psp...i do have a japanese psp so im all good...loving the wallpaper thing the most!! cant be bothered with the internet crap...too slow, i'll use it when they've properly implented it...i have to scroll left and right and up and down...

i havent been here in a while huh...anyhoo, i only have ridge racer and lumines for psp now and i am loving lumines!!! anyone else tried it? awesome stuff, its better than meteos as far as i am concerned

[Imagination_13]

Yeah, I think my highest score in lumines is around 230,000 or something. :D

Anyway, the PSP browser has an option to make pages fit the screen; and the US 2.0 update is coming out on August 12th. :cool:

[impulse]

okay quick question... where do you have to be to get online with the PSP? next to a puter or "hotspot"? if so then it sucks because everytime I tried to test my connection it always says (in so many words) it can't...

[Imagination_13]

Yeah, you have to be in a hotspot, which is pretty pointless since you most likely will have a computer in the area to use instead; it's still nifty though. I have a wireless router so it's not really an issue for me.

[tiamat1990]

well, my campus has free wi-fi so i use it as much as possible =) i like free things...

[Patman]

i also have a wireless router and its just like having a computer in my room....

[FVD]

PSP will be officially released on the 1st of September in NZ. I'm not in any rush to buy one though. I know I will someday once GTA Liberty City Stories comes out.

[Cheekdilly]

DS is dropping to 129.99 next week. Reggie boasts how its a one-two punch with the price drop and Nintendogs (and we can't forget Advance Wars) arriving in the same week.

[tiamat1990]

so your not buying one?? well it is $450....i would import instead, saves you a whole $100, but the pal ones come with two free movies and its already updated to 2.0!

i never got a free movie in the japanese release :(, stingy bastards

well, i have to wait till september 22 for nintendogs...and there is supposedly a hidden dalmatian in the american release

[insaneMoViEgoer]

still have your psp box? sell it on ebay and get mega cash!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8211851366&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

:funny:

[Cheekdilly]

still have your psp box? sell it on ebay and get mega cash!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8211851366&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

:funny:

That's pretty insane. Says the winner hasn't paid tho. Its still kinda wrong (he HAD to have intended to mislead people) Sucks for them.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

he did say it was only a box.

[BWSword]

ah...man...the ark of napishtim for psp has pushed back to 2006...sigh...oh well at least burnout will keep me busy...oh also forgot you guys know the ps2 magazine has demo in their magazines. Is there anything that they plan to release demo disc for psp in a magazine of some type?

[cg124]

still have your psp box? sell it on ebay and get mega cash!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8211851366&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

:funny:


some people just never read the whole page

[tiamat1990]

thats mean!!!!!!!!!

[impulse]

I saw Nintedogs at Circuit city and it seems like an interesting game... great graphics at least...

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Advance Wars: Dual Strike gets a 9.2 from gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/advancewarsds/index.html)

[Imagination_13]

I saw Nintedogs at Circuit city and it seems like an interesting game... great graphics at least...

I think I'll buy a DS just for that game. :redface:

[BWSword]

what looks better advance wars (9.2) or nintendogs (9.1) from gamespot?

[Imagination_13]

Personally, I'd prefer Nintendogs.

Anyways, I bought Death Jr. today, it's pretty sweet. It kinda hurts my head if I'm not sitting up straight and playing though.

[tiamat1990]

ADvance Wars Dual Strike!! but then theres nintendogs...oh which do i ship....

[db604]

wow, havent been here for like 3 months..

i've been thinking about buying advance wars ds, because i already bought the other two (but im still working on the second one because im trying to get all s-rank, im on the final green earth mission) and i want to rent nintendogs because it looks like it could be fun (and if other people had it you wouldn't have to pay too much attention to it) then maybe buy it.

[FVD]

What is this Nintendogs all about anyway? Is it one of them games where you gotta look after your dog or something?

[konman72]

What is this Nintendogs all about anyway? Is it one of them games where you gotta look after your dog or something?
Pretty much, but the touch screen and mic make it really deep. Your dog responds to petting, and you can throw a ball/frisbee, and he will learn his name and up to 14 tricks that you tech him through voice commands. It's like a tamagotchy on crack.

[FVD]

Hmm fascinating. Still I dunno. Mind you I did pick up Pokemon for the hell of it one day and got hooked on the gameplay. This just might happen with this you never know.

[konman72]

Hmm fascinating. Still I dunno. Mind you I did pick up Pokemon for the hell of it one day and got hooked on the gameplay. This just might happen with this you never know.
It is definately addicting. Maybe play the demo, it should be in any major electronics store, and see if you'd like it. If you like dogs then you almost certainly will become addeicted to this "game"

[cg124]

Nintendogs is one reason why I really want a DS. It looks really cool IMO and I would name my dog after my last dog that I had to put to sleep in march:(. It would be kind of cool to imagine having your dog back.

[BWSword]

Nintendogs is one reason why I really want a DS.

you got to be kidding me... :confused:

[tiamat1990]

demos? oh please...even demoes we oceanians dont get...trully sad...but watever...im gonna ship Advace Wars next week so i should have it by september 10-ish...

wats wrong with Nintendogs?? have you even played it?

[konman72]

you got to be kidding me... :confused:
Are YOU kidding me? I am a 20 year old college student and I LOVE Nintendogs. I especially love it since I want to have my dog here with me, but can't since I live in a dorm room. But even if I did have my dog with me it is still an awesome, addictive, fun game that any dog lover would want, hell my mom is gonna get a DS now just because of this game!

[BWSword]

I decided that it isn't for me...and I would rather let a dog fan buy my copy...I prefer action type games over this

[konman72]

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3142637

Looks like I'm not the only one who is getting tired of the PSP not having any good games.

[BWSword]

good games are coming...like burnout, ff7 advent, starwars battlefront, ys, marvel nemesis, streetfighter, harry potter, lord of the rings, socom, wwe smackdown vs. raw 2, the sims, x-men, mortal kombat, and espically gta

[insaneMoViEgoer]

FF7 AC isnt a game, its a movie.

[BWSword]

FF7 AC isnt a game, its a movie.
I know that but I'm sure it will sell alot here in the usa

[konman72]

good games are coming...like burnout, ff7 advent, starwars battlefront, ys, marvel nemesis, streetfighter, harry potter, lord of the rings, socom, wwe smackdown vs. raw 2, the sims, x-men, mortal kombat, and espically gta
Aside from Burnout and maybe GTA none of those are too intriguing to me. But if you like them then you like them lol.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

I know that but I'm sure it will sell alot here in the usa
it will most likely sell more on dvd then umd.

[HeadHunter]

Nintendo's new game to beat the PSP

http://content.ytmnd.com//130000/130724/image.jpg

[konman72]

Have to say....I'm tempted.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

hello touch screen :csgrin:

[tiamat1990]

Headhunter you are just unbelievable!!!

[BWSword]

Nintendo's new game to beat the PSP

http://content.ytmnd.com//130000/130724/image.jpg

lol...you should said...nintendo new game to beat nintendogs :D

[tiamat1990]

but i would have a laugh if they release this on the DS...or something along those lines...Feel the Magic was the closest so far...and that new japanese game which lets your rub any part of the man or womans body above the waist...then theres Where do Babies come from...well no wonder video games are so dominated by men...and people wonder why...

they should release one with guyz instead...wasnt this console about attracting new people? well most of those new ones would be chicks so...

[krazy_marco74]

Is that game real??

[Cheekdilly]

Yep. Comes out this holiday season and makes complete use of wi-fi, touch screen, and mic. Finally, even a gullible SOB such as yourself can get some! ;)

[Gomamon]

I prefer the DS.

[impulse]

I'm sorry but rubbing a freaking glass screen of a girl is not the same as rubbing a real girl... that's a very dumb ass idea...

[konman72]

I'm sorry but rubbing a freaking glass screen of a girl is not the same as rubbing a real girl... that's a very dumb ass idea...
It's not a real game, he was just kidding.

[impulse]

It's not a real game, he was just kidding.

duh... now I feel stupid... lol

[BWSword]

how you get in the internet with the psp?

[impulse]

how you get in the internet with the psp?

they way I understand it is you have to be in a "hotspot"...

you have to be next to a 'puter with a router or something... that allows your wifi to connect... in other words it's pretty much a moronic idea...
why would i want to get on the 'net with a limited device, when I'm standing next to a device built for getting on the internet? just to say oooh! awww!? stupid eh?

[halo7]

they way I understand it is you have to be in a "hotspot"...

you have to be next to a 'puter with a router or something... that allows your wifi to connect... in other words it's pretty much a moronic idea...
why would i want to get on the 'net with a limited device, when I'm standing next to a device built for getting on the internet? just to say oooh! awww!? stupid eh?

Well i mean i have a wireless router. So if im up in my room late at night and cant use the computer. Ill just turn on my PSP (it gets a 70% up there) and check on my email and stuff. But i mean id rather have it there than not. Its not in my way or anything.

[BWSword]

well...I don't have a router but I have the usb cord that you can add stuff to the psp folder from the computer...will that do anything to connect to the internet?

[halo7]

well...I don't have a router but I have the usb cord that you can add stuff to the psp folder from the computer...will that do anything to connect to the internet?

Not really.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

PSP breaks UK sales record
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/06/news_6132597.html

[BWSword]

psp going to break more sales when the game of the year comes out next week...:)

[tiamat1990]

whats the game of the year?? dont tell me GTA...i hate grand theft auto...it so boring now..same old same old...just roadkills and chopping up prostitutes...i do love the occasional rampages though...

[Patman]

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000760057599/

[konman72]

Anybody here playing Advance Wars: Dual Strike? I got it based on the reviews and man were they right. This is my favorite DS game so far, and it is definately one of the best handheld games out right now imo.

[Imagination_13]

whats the game of the year?? dont tell me GTA...i hate grand theft auto...it so boring now..same old same old...just roadkills and chopping up prostitutes...i do love the occasional rampages though...

Burnout. On the PSP. It's gonna rule.

[BWSword]

Burnout. On the PSP. It's gonna rule.

my...someone can read my lips :D

[impulse]

Anybody here playing Advance Wars: Dual Strike? I got it based on the reviews and man were they right. This is my favorite DS game so far, and it is definately one of the best handheld games out right now imo.
strategy? if so might make me interested in the DS again... love strategy games...

[konman72]

strategy? if so might make me interested in the DS again... love strategy games...
Dude, it is THE strategy game. It's the first strategy game that I have played that requires complete and utter strategy to win. It's turn-based just so you know, but that's what really makes it great. You can have less guys who are weaker, but if you have the right strategy of when to attack and where then you can secure the victory. Oh, and the touch screen is great for the precise control, and the dual screens are cool because they have some battle that have two fronts that you can have an AI partner control or switch between whenever you want. This gets me wanting a Starcraft port onto the DS, it actually could work GREAT if they do it right.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

Burnout. On the PSP. It's gonna rule.
9.0 (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/driving/burnout/index.html)

[tiamat1990]

yeah Advance Wars is soo freakin awesome!!!

ohhh....i sw the videos...portable burnout...ohhh

[Imagination_13]

GTA: Liberty City Stories is look pretty cool.

http://media.psp.ign.com/media/723/723575/vids_1.html

[impulse]

I hope for the sake of Nintendo that the new game boy micro wasn't suppose to be the next big handheld... they need to give this gameboy crap up...

[BWSword]

9.0 (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/driving/burnout/index.html)

you know it can still go up...I went to psp burnout and I can't vote because the game doesn't come out till wednesday in stores :applaud:

[insaneMoViEgoer]

I hope for the sake of Nintendo that the new game boy micro wasn't suppose to be the next big handheld... they need to give this gameboy crap up...
the GBM was just for the "in crowd". people who care about their image and want to lool cool. :rolleyes:

[halo7]

the GBM was just for the "in crowd". people who care about their image and want to lool cool. :rolleyes:

I can see it now.

Guy: Hey check out what i just bought.

Girl: What?

Guy: A Gameboy Micro!

Girl: Its so small!! Sex me up!

[Cheekdilly]

I see it having the same impact as an ipod nano. Sure its makes little sense to purchase the thing just for sheer size, but people will still buy it. Its a trend thing, smaller is better for people--especially gadget freaks who have their pockets full with 'em.

And yes, Advance Wars Dual Strike is the move--better than the first two for the GBA and those are two classic games. I'm waiting to see what Battalion Wars will be like.

[konman72]

I see it having the same impact as an ipod nano. Sure its makes little sense to purchase the thing just for sheer size, but people will still buy it. Its a trend thing, smaller is better for people--especially gadget freaks who have their pockets full with 'em.

And yes, Advance Wars Dual Strike is the move--better than the first two for the GBA and those are two classic games. I'm waiting to see what Battalion Wars will be like.
Battalion Wars seems to be getting alot of good buzz on the gaming sites. All the people who have done hands-on stuff with it keep saying it might be the sleeper hit of the year.

[Boro]

picked up AW:DS. it owns.

edit- damn the codes for smileys... i picked up AW-DS

[Imagination_13]

I got Burnout: Legends today. It's awesome. :D I raced through the whole compact tour without putting it down, it's as addicting as the console versions.

[Cheekdilly]

Burnout Legends on the DS looks like trash compared to the PSP version. I don't understand why they keep trying to make the same game on this system that already exist for another system. Aren't they trying to come up with a DIFFERENT way to play games? I hope they don't do the same thing with the Revolution.

On that note, Legends looks sick for the PSP, can't wait to play it.

[tiamat1990]

i tried legends out yesterday on the psp...just loads of rubbish, crap...and i expect the DS version to be even worse...i think i'll jsut stick with Mario Kart and Wipeout Pure...

[konman72]

i tried legends out yesterday on the psp...just loads of rubbish, crap...and i expect the DS version to be even worse...i think i'll jsut stick with Mario Kart and Wipeout Pure...
REALLY? What was wrong with it? I love burnout and am definately getting legends for psp, but i want to know why you didnt like it.

Even I think the DS legends will probably suck lol. EA just doesn't understand that the DS is not meant for random game ports. DS games need to be built from the ground up knowing the functionality of the system.

[Imagination_13]

Well, sometimes there are stretches with absolutely no traffic, and then towards the end of a lap it's like rush hour. And the physics in crash mode are all funky (taxi hits a bus, bus goes flying). It's still really fun if you're a fan of Burnout though.

[BWSword]

what you guys rate for burnout for psp? me...I would give it a 9/10

[Imagination_13]

I'm no good with numbers, so I give it a B+.

[tiamat1990]

5/10...i really did not like it...i can barely imagine how horrid the DS one is going to be...

[HeadHunter]

New Feature for the PSP (http://defective.ytmnd.com/)

[BWSword]

I don't get it...

[Imagination_13]

New Feature for the PSP (http://defective.ytmnd.com/)

Haha, the guy who did that did it on purpose though. :(

[BWSword]

that what I thought...

[tiamat1990]

didnt that boromir guy post that before? well anyway i've seen it before...it was funny at first but its just dry now...

[Imagination_13]

that what I thought...

Yeeah. I tried it myself. I placed my finger over the tray after closing it just enough so that the system could read the UMD, but didn't click closed. Then I moved my finger at the game's menu and the disc shot out.

[Cheekdilly]

Apparently the Game Boy Micro is doing well and helped to cause a spike in the handheld market over in Japan. It was noted that the DS and PSP also did well...although the PSP didn't manage to do near as well as the PSP this week.

Check IGN for details.
http://psp.ign.com/articles/652/652771p1.html

[BWSword]

you think because of burnout out for psp?

[Last Emperor]

I'll vote for the DS.

I was very interested in the PSP at first, mainly because of the ability to play movies and because of the inclusion of an analog stick. I got really dissapointed when I found out that it wouldn't play DVDs; I wouldn't buy any movies right now on any other format than DVD, especially considering how large my collection is. Also, after playing Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS, I saw that the touch screen was better than an analog stick, almost as good as a mouse and keyboard. So naturally, I lost interest in the PSP.

The main reason I'm getting the DS is to play GBA games. The GBA was my favorite system this generation, but I only bought the original Gameboy Advance which I have since the first week it came out; I never bought a GBA-SP. So playing GBA games on a backlit screen is a huge reason for me.

The DS's planned games interest me alot more than the PSP's. The DS is also most likely the last system we will see 2D games on. So I'm definitely not going to miss out on this one.

The moment I decided to get a DS instead of a PSP was when I found out that the PSP was only going to be available as "Value Pack", which made the price go up by $65 . None of the stuff included would of use to me except the Memory Card, which barely had any space. I would never pay more than $200 for handheld and I would've much rather spent those extra $65 to buy a bigger Memory Card. That's when I noticed the DS was more for me.

I will buy a DS after all these things happen:

1. When New Super Mario Bros comes out
2. When the Granite version of the DS comes out in the US
3. After another price drop

(though if by that time a some kind of redesigned DS is anounced, I will wait for that)

[Imagination_13]

You actually expected DVDs to fit in the PSP? :confused:

[Patman]

I'll vote for the DS.

I was very interested in the PSP at first, mainly because of the ability to play movies and because of the inclusion of an analog stick. I got really dissapointed when I found out that it wouldn't play DVDs; I wouldn't buy any movies right now on any other format than DVD, especially considering how large my collection is. Also, after playing Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS, I saw that the touch screen was better than an analog stick, almost as good as a mouse and keyboard. So naturally, I lost interest in the PSP.

The main reason I'm getting the DS is to play GBA games. The GBA was my favorite system this generation, but I only bought the original Gameboy Advance which I have since the first week it came out; I never bought a GBA-SP. So playing GBA games on a backlit screen is a huge reason for me.

The DS's planned games interest me alot more than the PSP's. The DS is also most likely the last system we will see 2D games on. So I'm definitely not going to miss out on this one.

The moment I decided to get a DS instead of a PSP was when I found out that the PSP was only going to be available as "Value Pack", which made the price go up by $65 . None of the stuff included would of use to me except the Memory Card, which barely had any space. I would never pay more than $200 for handheld and I would've much rather spent those extra $65 to buy a bigger Memory Card. That's when I noticed the DS was more for me.

I will buy a DS after all these things happen:

1. When New Super Mario Bros comes out
2. When the Granite version of the DS comes out in the US
3. After another price drop

(though if by that time a some kind of redesigned DS is anounced, I will wait for that)

sounds logical. i too like the ds more than the psp, but i wouldnt just dismiss the psp so easily it has alot to offer including the emulators that allow you to play many of the older games. i own both systems and am happy with them both im sure you would be to.

[Halofan1]

I own both and I'll say that they're like this...

If you're looking for a multimedia/internet browser go with the PSP. The games aren't that great right now but it's capabilities are endless. If you're strictly for games, then the DS is your best bet because you have what is the best handheld game available in Advance Wars: Dual Strike.

[halo7]

sounds logical. i too like the ds more than the psp, but i wouldnt just dismiss the psp so easily it has alot to offer including the emulators that allow you to play many of the older games. i own both systems and am happy with them both im sure you would be to.

Logical??

How is thinking a system thats almost smaller than a DVD should be able to play DVD's "Logical"?

[Patman]

about everything else accept that. i dont know what he was thinking when he posted that.

[tiamat1990]

...DVDs....on this thing :hehe:

[faxmachine11658]

I'm surprised there isn't a thread on the Game Boy Micro. I'm too lazy to do it though...I think it looks pretty cool...but enough to start a thread, that is the question.

[Cheekdilly]

Not really worth a thread, I don't think. Its a game boy...smaller. That doesn't warrant a thread in itself. What do we talk about? How small it is?

[Drizzt240]

PSP is better. I can watch SNL whenever I want.

[Cheekdilly]

That's pretty much the vibe I'm getting from PSP owners...it's useful for movies and whatnot. The gaming function seems secondary which is kind of assbackwards for a gaming machine. I don't even hear much about mp3 playback...but UMDs are selling consistently.

[konman72]

That's pretty much the vibe I'm getting from PSP owners...it's useful for movies and whatnot. The gaming function seems secondary which is kind of assbackwards for a gaming machine. I don't even hear much about mp3 playback...but UMDs are selling consistently.
Yeah, I notice that too. Some people are speculating, and I agree with them, that people are buying movies and whatnot because they need to legitimize their $250 purchase that is now functioning as a pretty paperweight. I like my PSP, but it is hurting for some games.

EDIT: Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/NHJ-MPM-201-30GB-Portable-Video-Player_W0QQitemZ5811566430QQcategoryZ73839QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ya go Drizzt, you can buy this and have all those extra functions that you like with your PSP, but you'll have enough money to buy a DS and get some fun GAMES as well.

[halo7]

Meh i dont plan on buying too many UMD movies for my PSP.

[Drizzt240]

Yeah, I notice that too. Some people are speculating, and I agree with them, that people are buying movies and whatnot because they need to legitimize their $250 purchase that is now functioning as a pretty paperweight. I like my PSP, but it is hurting for some games.

EDIT: Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/NHJ-MPM-201-30GB-Portable-Video-Player_W0QQitemZ5811566430QQcategoryZ73839QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ya go Drizzt, you can buy this and have all those extra functions that you like with your PSP, but you'll have enough money to buy a DS and get some fun GAMES as well.
Terrible product.

[konman72]

Terrible product.
Still probably functions as a better portable video player than the PSP. MP4 my a$$, and those dumb memory cards are totally overpirced, especially compared to any other memory format. Also, that thing has 30gb for a total of $50, the PSP alone is $250, then to get a gig you need to spend an additional $100 at least. Oh, well now that I think about it were you referring to the PSP when you said that?

[Drizzt240]

Still probably functions as a better portable video player than the PSP. MP4 my a$$, and those dumb memory cards are totally overpirced, especially compared to any other memory format. Also, that thing has 30gb for a total of $50, the PSP alone is $250, then to get a gig you need to spend an additional $100 at least. Oh, well now that I think about it were you referring to the PSP when you said that?

I understand that not everyone can afford a PSP. But, her, you get what you par for, right?

[konman72]

I understand that not everyone can afford a PSP. But, her, you get what you par for, right?
I bought one, and, no I have not gotten what I paid for. I payed for a good portable game system, I have not gotten that yet.

[Drizzt240]

I bought one, and, no I have not gotten what I paid for. I payed for a good portable game system, I have not gotten that yet.

Be weary of Ebay. Sometimes products get "lost" in the mail. If I were you, I'd forget about the PSP and start saving my money again.

[halo7]

I dont understand what people are complaining about the PSP im just fine with it. What so wrong with trying to bring the Console experience to a handheld?

[Cheekdilly]

nothing at all. its when you fail to deliver any experience at all besides lumines that you begin to get disappointed.

But seriously, it's a good system. It's just in dire need of games. GTA should give it a quick boost...but it needs to keep coming with them. Burnout may be cool, but when its available on my PS2 as well, its just not worth it. I'd rather get that console experience on my console.

[konman72]

Be weary of Ebay. Sometimes products get "lost" in the mail. If I were you, I'd forget about the PSP and start saving my money again.
Oh, I have my PSP, I got it at launch, but I never got the experience that I paid for. I require my $250 gaming machines to have at least 3 good games within the first 6 months.
And Cheekdilly is right, why play NFL Street, NBA, MLB, Burnout, Twisted Metal, or any of the other ports when there are better experiences on your console. Also, it would be different if these were true portable games, i.e. pick up and play for five minutes while you wait for the bus, but they are full on console games with minute long load times (NFL Street, I timed it) and everything.

[halo7]

Oh, I have my PSP, I got it at launch, but I never got the experience that I paid for. I require my $250 gaming machines to have at least 3 good games within the first 6 months.
Games being good is based on opinion. In my opinion i got what i payed for and then some.

All the games i own are good in my opinion.

[halo7]

Oh, I have my PSP, I got it at launch, but I never got the experience that I paid for. I require my $250 gaming machines to have at least 3 good games within the first 6 months.
And Cheekdilly is right, why play NFL Street, NBA, MLB, Burnout, Twisted Metal, or any of the other ports when there are better experiences on your console. Also, it would be different if these were true portable games, i.e. pick up and play for five minutes while you wait for the bus, but they are full on console games with minute long load times (NFL Street, I timed it) and everything.

Not true to most games. I know on Burnout legends the Loadtimes are less than a minute (Depending on what youre doing) and the menu system is based on quick play. I cant say the same for NBA Street because of the initial long load at the beginning and Darkstalkers well...Darkstalkers has sucky load times. The point is theyre are plenty of Quickplay options on most psp games.

[konman72]

Games being good is based on opinion. In my opinion i got what i payed for and then some.

All the games i own are good in my opinion.
I know that and that is fine, but Drizzt asked me if I got what I paid for, so I answered. Like I said I own both and like both, but the people who say that PSP is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better and no one can disagree with them, have some serious problems imo.

EDIT: the 1 minute times were for NFL Street; you are right that most have quick play options, but it is still not fast enough because the games are not built for that type of play. They are console games, and are meant for long durations of play. They need to stop making console games and formatting them into portable format and start making portable games with some console parts, like better graphics and sound etc.

[NEo881]

i have have had both at one point and personally i say psp all the way especailly with the firmware 2.00 update the browser is a nice feature and hopefully will be used to andvantage like dl updates and stuff for all games and hopefully email/instanmessanger i love the new avc coding great qauilty i use this now as my mp3 player to the games are starting to finaly get good with madden finaly coming out and nba live 06 and wwe smackdown vs raw in november those r the games im wating and gta also

[Cheekdilly]

so neo881 (too many neos), you're saying you are using the other functions more right now until decent games come out?

[Cheekdilly]

Anybody played Killer 7? I'm wondering because I've heard decent things about it and the makers of the game are doing something for the DS. I was wondering if it is worth the interest?

[tiamat1990]

And Cheekdilly is right, why play NFL Street, NBA, MLB, Burnout, Twisted Metal, or any of the other ports when there are better experiences on your console.

...uhh...playstation PORTABLE

but ya....i havent used my psp in like 3 weeks now...selling it is starting to look like a very good option and plus i want an ipod nano...

[BWSword]

castlevania comes out tomorrow anyone planning to buy it?

[halo7]

...uhh...playstation PORTABLE

but ya....i havent used my psp in like 3 weeks now...selling it is starting to look like a very good option and plus i want an ipod nano...


Why buy an Ipod when you could just listen to all of those files on your computer? ;)

[konman72]

...uhh...playstation PORTABLE

but ya....i havent used my psp in like 3 weeks now...selling it is starting to look like a very good option and plus i want an ipod nano...
Yes but without a good battery life, long loading times and too deep of gameplay the games aren't very portable, most people that I know just end up playing them at home anyway.

[Imagination_13]

I play Dead to Rights, Ridge Racer, Burnout, Death Jr., and Lumines during class whenever I can, but that's just me and I'm putting my $400 system to use.

I also assume it'd be great for long road/plane trips.

[Cheekdilly]

castlevania comes out tomorrow anyone planning to buy it?

Got a 9.3 at IGN...might be worth a look.

[Patman]

is there ever going to be a zelda for the ds??!! or SSB??!! those would be key selling points for the ds in some poeples minds/opinions. and not a zelda like four swords, i want ocarina of time/mejoras mask ds. that would be sooooo sweet.

[Imagination_13]

Haha, the graphics would be all blocky.

[Patman]

......one can dream i suppose

[konman72]

Haha, the graphics would be all blocky.
No more blocky than Ocarina for the N64, which was pretty freakin sweet looking if you ask me. Graphics of course aren't everything, and the gameplay of Zelda would sell a few systems.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

DS Wi-Fi adapter (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6135138.html)

[Patman]

any zelda title at all for the ds would be sweet....

[Patman]

Nintendo DS goes all "wireless" on ya.

http://wham.canoe.ca/handhelds/2005/10/05/1250151.html

and psp gets cracked, a 4gb hard drive, 2x battery pack, and a keyboard.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8116

http://psp.darkplanets.co.uk:81/datel-4gb-harddrive.asp

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=4262

[tiamat1990]

oh yay!! there are new characters in Mario Kart DS!!! now just the usual 8!!! im so happy....

[Imagination_13]

and psp gets cracked, a 4gb hard drive, 2x battery pack, and a keyboard.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8116

http://psp.darkplanets.co.uk:81/datel-4gb-harddrive.asp

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=4262

Wow.

[BWSword]

any zelda title at all for the ds would be sweet....

here a little info that I found:
In a recent interview with EGM Magazine, Eiji Aunoma, the guy who took over the responsibility of directing Zelda games after the legendary Ocarina of Time, stated that:

"What I can tell you is that it's going to use the touch screen for a very unique control system that people have never experienced in a Zelda game before. I think one of the important elements of the Zelda series has always been that you feel like you're in the world doing the things that Link is doing and touching the things that Link is touching. This time you'll be able to use the touch screen and actually touch those items and objects yourself."

[tiamat1990]

did you know final fantasy III is full on 3D, and its about time, i dont want any of this dragon song crap...

[BWSword]

FF IIID :
http://www.dsgaming.co.uk/html/modules/news/article.php?storyid=960

[insaneMoViEgoer]

im assuming that's the real FF3, not the US 3, which was actually 6.

[Cheekdilly]

Yep... its the "real" 3. Apparently Nintendo is getting all of the FF remakes for the GBA (I,II...already out...IV is being released soon...V and VI in development) and for the DS (III).

[Last Emperor]

Logical??

How is thinking a system thats almost smaller than a DVD should be able to play DVD's "Logical"?



When I first found out about the UMD thing was really the first time I ever paid attention to the size of the PSP.

[konman72]

PSPwned (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000550063058/)

....Totally pwned (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000837063581/)


I know at the end of the last article they say they only have to sell half as many to make as much money, but they aren't factoring in the price to manufacture. If PSP costs $200 to make and get to stores, and DS costs $100, then each unit sold makes the exact same amount of profit. Now, I don't know the numbers on cost but it seems like they would be an equal ratio to the price.

[halo7]

PSPwned (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000550063058/)

....Totally pwned (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000837063581/)


I know at the end of the last article they say they only have to sell half as many to make as much money, but they aren't factoring in the price to manufacture. If PSP costs $200 to make and get to stores, and DS costs $100, then each unit sold makes the exact same amount of profit. Now, I don't know the numbers on cost but it seems like they would be an equal ratio to the price.

Go apple for making people pay for something that people on the PSP can easily do for free.

[konman72]

Go apple for making people pay for something that people on the PSP can easily do for free.
FREE?! You mean download the movies? Well, you can only download stuff illegally for free, just like you can for the ipod. Then you have to pay $20-30 for a UMD with a movie or a few episodes of a show on it, whereas the itunes service allows you to legally download episodes of tv shows or other videos for only $2 a video. Also, the itunes videos are already in the proper format and just have to be placed on the harddrive, unlike the horrible system available for putting movies on the psp.

[Imagination_13]

What if someone rips their own DVDs and converts for their own use, which is free? :confused:

[konman72]

What if someone rips their own DVDs and converts for their own use, which is free? :confused:
That works on both of them, but good luck getting a memory stick that will fit more than one movie for under $100. The ipod has a 30-60 gig harddrive so you could fit a bunch of movies on there.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

but the ipod is too small for watching movies or tv.

[konman72]

but the ipod is too small for watching movies or tv.
It has a smaller screen, but not too small. Especially since it is a portable device the screen size isn't a big issue at all. And considering you can fit over 30 times the stuff on there for the same price with better conveiniance and support from Apple I think ipod has a pretty big advantage.

[halo7]

FREE?! You mean download the movies? Well, you can only download stuff illegally for free, just like you can for the ipod. Then you have to pay $20-30 for a UMD with a movie or a few episodes of a show on it, whereas the itunes service allows you to legally download episodes of tv shows or other videos for only $2 a video. Also, the itunes videos are already in the proper format and just have to be placed on the harddrive, unlike the horrible system available for putting movies on the psp.

Horrible system? Its just a quick hit of the Convert button and im good to go.

[konman72]

Horrible system? Its just a quick hit of the Convert button and im good to go.
As long as you place it in the right folder, and the third party conversion program you have knows how to title them correctly. Which, that alone is sooooooo stupid, shouldn't I be able to title the file whatever I want and put it into the video folder? I had to buy secondary software to convert my files to the proper format, it is good software, but I shouldn't have had to buy it in the first place.

[halo7]

As long as you place it in the right folder, and the third party conversion program you have knows how to title them correctly. Which, that alone is sooooooo stupid, shouldn't I be able to title the file whatever I want and put it into the video folder? I had to buy secondary software to convert my files to the proper format, it is good software, but I shouldn't have had to buy it in the first place.

Meh i got it for free because you can send a certain program over AIM :)

[Cheekdilly]

Handheld sales trends in Japan

DS outselling PSPs in Japan, game lineup cited as reason; Game Boy Micro mania simmering down, too pricey for quality.
It's no secret that portable gaming machines are wildly popular in Japan. In the last year, three high-profile handhelds have stormed the country, the latest being Nintendo's Game Boy Micro. Now, with all three on the market, various sales charts in Japan are showing some interesting trends.

Recent sales figures provided by Dengeki Online revealed that cumulative shipments of the DS have nearly doubled those of the PSP in Japan since both launched in the country last December. As of the end of September 2005, Nintendo sold 3.2 million units of its DS handheld in Japan, while Sony Computer Entertainment shipped only 1.7 million units.

The latest issue of Famitsu showed that the lineup of games seems to be the main factor for the PSP's sluggish sales. While four DS games ranked in the top 10 sales chart for the first half of fiscal year 2006, the best-selling game for the PSP, Konami's World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 Ubiquitous Evolution, trailed behind in 35th place.

A private survey conducted by the magazine further showed that only 15.3 percent of PSP owners are happy about its game lineup, and 46.2 percent see it as the biggest issue regarding the PSP. On the other hand, 46.1 percent of DS owners are satisfied with the lineup for their handheld, and the number of owners complaining about the lack of games remained low at 24.2 percent.

According to the survey, the biggest issue for DS owners is the machine's design, with 31.3 percent of Japanese gamers complaining about its size and weight, especially since the handheld is often played with one hand holding the stylus. On the other hand, PSP owners see their handheld's design as the second best-selling point, following its various hardware functions. However, hardware functions are also the selling point for the DS, with 61.8 percent of owners saying they like its touch-screen controls.

While the Game Boy Micro has been a successful hit in Japan since its debut in September, its sales seem to be gradually settling down. Famitsu reports that the handheld has shipped 200,000 units in its first three weeks of release. But the week of September 26 saw a decline of 45 percent, as the handheld's sales dropped from the 52,048 units sold the week before down to 28,721 units.

A private survey published in the magazine showed some mixed figures for the Game Boy Micro, as 46.9 percent of surveyed gamers said they had no interest or plans in picking up the handheld at the current time. The unit's price seems to be the biggest sales roadblock for the miniaturized Game Boy Advance, with 83.9 percent of gamers saying its quality doesn't justify its price. The Micro sells in Japan for 12,000 yen ($105), which is only 3,000 yen ($26) less than the DS.

24.7 percent of gamers said they would consider purchasing the Micro when its price drops, while 22 percent said they're currently interested in picking up the handheld. The top incentive for buying the Game Boy Micro is its chic style. With multiple answers allowed, gamers planning to pick up the handheld voted its design as the top reason for purchase, at 80 percent, followed by its size (54.3 percent) and faceplates (36 percent).

[Cheekdilly]

Electroplankton has a US release date:

October 19, 2005 - Nintendo quietly revealed on its Nintendo.com website that it will be releasing Electroplankton in the US on January 6, 2006. We've confirmed with Nintendo sources that this is indeed the current, official release date for the "game."

[tiamat1990]

i played Mario Kart DS today...it was great but i didnt get too play multiplayer...but oh well, its awesome still

[BWSword]

anyone get x-men legends 2 for psp?

[Boro]

FF IIID :
http://www.dsgaming.co.uk/html/modules/news/article.php?storyid=960


http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/05/10/ff3_compare.jpg

[tiamat1990]

ahh....3D goodness

[Boro]

my picture isnt showing up anymore, i'll have to dig it up again.

[halo7]

Hmm. GTA comes out tommorow but no reviews... Well the night is still young i suppose.

[tiamat1990]

didnt they just say its delayed to november 4?? or was that the UK one....

[halo7]

Well it shipped today so i think its to late to delay it here.

[BWSword]

November 4th is the new European release date for Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories, it has been confirmed today.
Rockstar's hugely-anticipated PSP-exclusive had been due for release this Friday, the 28th October, but has now been forced back seven days for reasons as-yet unconfirmed.
The game's UK distributor Gem confirmed the news to Eurogamer today, and admitted it had only just received confirmation itself this lunchtime.
It is not yet known whether the European slip will have any effect on the game's US release date, which at the time of writing is expected to be tomorrow, the 25th October.
Should the game remain on track in the US for this week, it's fair to say that import retailers will be enjoying a bumper weekend selling what is one of the most in-demand games of the entire year on any platform.

[alfalfra]

Jan 6? Can't wait for electroplankton! Was almost going to lik-sang it but decided to wait....just more waiting to do!

[konman72]

Japanese Hardware sales....

October 10 - 16, 2005
Nintendo DS - 44,262
PSP - 29,162
PS2 - 23,659
Game Boy Micro - 20,026
Game Boy Advance SP - 9,707
GameCube - 1,666
Game Boy Advance - 431
Xbox - 132

[BWSword]

games or systems?

[neo5595]

I believe its systems.

[konman72]

I believe its systems.
Yeah.

[Cheekdilly]

Hmm. GTA comes out tommorow but no reviews... Well the night is still young i suppose.

got a 9.0 at IGN!

[halo7]

Got GTA today..
First impressions

Bad:
Controls are a bit erm...different and they make you use the analog nub
Graphical Blurring is over used
Hard.
You cant save anywhere(I know its not usually there but on a handheld its pretty neccesary)
Good:
Great story
Great music and sound
Graphics although cheap at times are still nice
Feels like a living breathing city in your hands
Best of all...Lazlo gets his own station again! And its hilarious as ever.
Feels like GTA3 in your hands
You can access multiplayer (which i havent tried yet) from the pause menu

[cool_chik]

It has a smaller screen, but not too small. Especially since it is a portable device the screen size isn't a big issue at all. And considering you can fit over 30 times the stuff on there for the same price with better conveiniance and support from Apple I think ipod has a pretty big advantage.
Support from Apple? I have the first iPod with the click wheel and the battery only lasts 2 hours. It is still in its warranty period but when mum went to Apple to get warranty they refused. So there is ZERO support from Apple.

iPods have all the features but aren't good quality.

[Cheekdilly]

Support from Apple? I have the first iPod with the click wheel and the battery only lasts 2 hours. It is still in its warranty period but when mum went to Apple to get warranty they refused. So there is ZERO support from Apple.

iPods have all the features but aren't good quality.

Getting a little away from the topic, but I'm curious as to why they refused to help you out? The battery should be covered under the 1yr warranty.

Getting back to the topic, I think that both Sony AND Apple have support issues. There was always something wrong with my Sony brand machines (which is why I don't buy too many Sony products other than Playstations and storage media) and they hardly help when you contact them. Apple on the other hand usually has a decent product, free from defects. But when a problem does arrive, they can't help for nothing. So I guess both the PSP and Ipod lose in the customer support arena.

[konman72]

Support from Apple? I have the first iPod with the click wheel and the battery only lasts 2 hours. It is still in its warranty period but when mum went to Apple to get warranty they refused. So there is ZERO support from Apple.

iPods have all the features but aren't good quality.
By support in this sense I am meaning that Apple provides youw with programs for conversion and Itunes for downloading ready-made videos while Sony gives you no conversion tools and basically makes it as hard as they can to get videos to work on the PSP.

EDIT: btw, it's not huge news but it is pretty cool, DS will recognize handwriting (http://1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3145082)

[Imagination_13]

You cant save anywhere(I know its not usually there but on a handheld its pretty neccesary)

That's the beauty of the sleep function. :sleepy:

Anyways, from personal experience Sony has given me the best support when something was wrong with one of their products I bought.

[konman72]

That's the beauty of the sleep function. :sleepy:

Anyways, from personal experience Sony has given me the best support when something was wrong with one of their products I bought.
Again, not talking about that kind of support. I'm saying that Sony made it difficult to put videos on there while Apple is going as far as actually giving you a program with videos to download as well as making it easy to put videos on there that you already have.

[Imagination_13]

I was actually replying to Cheek, but I dunno. I think I'll take quality over convenience. But that's just me and I don't find it too frustrating or out of my way to just simply convert videos (the free program you can download with a quick google search isn't very complicated to use) I'd like to put on my PSP.

[Boro]

here is the pic of FF3, comparing the old one to the ds one, from before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jordanov1/ff3_compare.jpg

[konman72]

I think I'll take quality over convenience.
Considering the iPod has a bigger harddrive and better sound quality deciding which is of a better quality is tougher than you think.

PSP
Pros: Bigger screen, plays games

Cons: Poor conversion support, no downloadable videos, lesser sound quality when compared, large size makes portability dificult

iPod
Pros: Better sound quality especially with mp3's, iTunes service for easy video access as well as easy to use and high quality conversion software, much bigger harddrive for equal price, much smaller size

Cons: Smaller screen, no speakers, while it plays games they are not of same quality in any respect


So it really boils down to what is important to you in terms of which is better, but either way this is just another problem for the PSP to face, with the DS gaining steam in the game department and this new developement taking away its multimedia monopoly Sony has some rough times ahead if they want to maintain PSP success.

[Cheekdilly]

here is the pic of FF3, comparing the old one to the ds one, from before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jordanov1/ff3_compare.jpg

Nice find dude. The pics I've seen so far were pretty far away, so I didn't see how well they pulled the graphics off. I can't wait to get my hands on it. I'm a big old school FF fan.

[tiamat1990]

strange...when i had a mini under warranty, the battery life was getting shorter and they replaced it with a new one....must just be some greedy americans...

[konman72]

Sony take one step forward (http://1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3145251)

And two steps back (http://scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=33119&type=0)

It seems like it may be too little too late, consumers seem to have jumped ship to the video service on the iPod already.

[theropissed]

I have a DS, but i would also like a PSP for its multifunction.


Though if i had to pick one, DS. You can get a cheap MP3 Player, a DS, and a MEdia Player for under the 400 dollar price tag for the PSP bundle. (If yuo know where to look)

DS is very original, and made by a company that's been around and beaten one of the mightiest (Sega). Nintendo doesnt lie, they know they arnt competeing against sony, but they arnt predicting to do so, which keeps them in business.

Anyway, reasons why i like DS:

Advanced Wars DS
Metriod Prime Hunters

[Imagination_13]

...I don't understand how something Apple does means Sony takes two steps back, but whatever. :confused:

[konman72]

...I don't understand how something Apple does means Sony takes two steps back, but whatever. :confused:
Because the Apple video system is a huge success, further taking away from the PSP video market. The iPod was already a better mp3 player, but now it is cutting into the video playback so Sony is left with just games, and frankly the DS is beating it there too, trust me I own both and I haven't touched my PSP in about a month (and yes, I know GTA is out, I'm just not too interesten in it right now).

[Imagination_13]

Oh. Well most people who buy a PSP in the first place aren't looking for a video player I hope. I know I wasn't, even though I do make use of it; from the mp4 playback to the UMD movies. Anyway, I've bought pretty much every game available for the PSP and GTA is a must, especially if you like the franchise. I'm only really interested in Nintendogs and Advanced Wars Dual Strike for the Nintendo DS, compared to Coded Arms, Burnout Legends, Medievil, Lumines, GTA: LCS, Battlefront II, and Death Jr. on my PSP. Plus I use it as my .mp3 player and I keep a few pictures on it with me that otherwise would probably be in my wallet or something.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

but can you watch TV on your ipod? not download episodes, but actually watch TV?

[konman72]

Oh. Well most people who buy a PSP in the first place aren't looking for a video player I hope. I know I wasn't, even though I do make use of it; from the mp4 playback to the UMD movies. Anyway, I've bought pretty much every game available for the PSP and GTA is a must, especially if you like the franchise. I'm only really interested in Nintendogs and Advanced Wars Dual Strike for the Nintendo DS, compared to Coded Arms, Burnout Legends, Medievil, Lumines, GTA: LCS, Battlefront II, and Death Jr. on my PSP. Plus I use it as my .mp3 player and I keep a few pictures on it with me that otherwise would probably be in my wallet or something.
Well, many studies are showing that you are in the minority. DS owners are quite satisfied with the game selection while PSP owners are not, in fact the previous success of its video playback was theorised as a direct result of the dissatisfaction with the gaming side. So, considering the gaming feature is useless, in many people's opinions, and the iPod is a better mp3 player as well as a picture storage device and video player the PSP is losing many of the features that otherwise would have sustained it in this gaming drought.

but can you watch TV on your ipod? not download episodes, but actually watch TV?
No, can you on PSP? I seriously never heard of this except for maybe mentioning in a future tense.

[insaneMoViEgoer]

its expensive, but its possible.

http://media.putfile.com/OTS

[roboxeno]

here is the pic of FF3, comparing the old one to the ds one, from before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/jordanov1/ff3_compare.jpg


i saw that i hope it comes out in northamrica casue my DS is collecting dust!

[BWSword]

i saw that i hope it comes out in northamrica casue my DS is collecting dust!


castlevania keeping me busy... :)

[konman72]

castlevania keeping me busy... :)
I'm still hopped up on Nintendogs myself lol. Dottie is a champion disc player btw ;)

[BWSword]

starwars battlefront came out for psp...did anyone get that...I was thinking of getting it?

[konman72]

Japanese Hardware Sales
October 14 - 30, 2005
Nintendo DS - 46,826
PSP - 27,837
PS2 - 21,976
Game Boy Micro - 11,656
Game Boy Advance SP - 6,515
GameCube - 2,931
Game Boy Advance - 321
Xbox - 114

DS outsold the PSP by over 18,000 units this week, a 2,000 unit increase over last weeks margin.

[tiamat1990]

i got battlefront for pc, awesome game

how can you find death jr and coded arms fun? i guess people have different tastes...i just find it strange, oh watever

fave game at the moment isbuzz the music quiz and phoenix wright