Most Undeserving Best Picture Award...

[Vincenzo]

What is do you guys think is the most undeserving Best Picture recipient of the last 20 years? Only becuase before that, there were MANY undeserving Best Picture recipients.

I would say either Chicago or A Beautiful Mind.

-Vincenzo

[Chuckles]

Yeah the ones that stole it from LOTR were annoying... still great movies but LOTR really deserved better.

But above all I gotta say Forest Gump. Pulp Fiction should have won.

[Vincenzo]

Yea Pulp Fiction should hve one that one...

[Citizen Kane]

Gladiator, easily. I also disagreed with RotK winning, but it was much better than Gladiator.

[spikethebloody]

ROTK is the most undeserved winner since Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan. ROTK only won b/c they wanted to honor the trilogy and make up for snubbing the far better FOTR.

[Citizen Kane]

FotR was better, but still didn't deserve the win...That should have been the year of In the Bedroom.

[Mat]

Out of Africa
Driving Miss Daisy (Henry V not even nominated? Come on!)
The English Patient (over Fargo... splurge)
Return of the King (M&C deserved it)
Shakespeare in Love (The Thin Red Line deserved it)

[Glordreen]

Shakespeare In Love
A Beautiful Mind
Chicago

[poeman]

umm that stupid movie that beat 10 commandments back in the late 60's

[WDTSF]

this is last 20 years

I'm pretty sure that on a list I saw of most undeserving Oscar wins, for picture, Dead Poet's Society was at the top, since they said Do the Right Thing deserved it

[Brock Landers]

Shakespeare in Love(SPR deserved it)
Gladiator(c'mon, TRAFFIC!)
A Beautiful Mind(Fellowship of the Ring deserved it)
Dances with Wolves(Goodfellas should have won it)

[Boro]

a beautiful mind. fotr should have won.

[Inferno]

Gladiator. Seriously, what a piece of rubbish. That horrible story about emperor v democracy - that didn't even make any sense!

Forrest Gump. I enjoyed this movie, but really did it break any new grounds? Shawshank was 1000 times better.

[Necross]

Chicago, I mean I liked the film but it was just a musical, nothing special about it....

I think each lotr movie deserved to win instead of waiting for ROTK because even though it deseverved it, you have people who sit there going, "It only won because it was the last in the trilogy!" WRONG!

[Inferno]

Rain Man over Mississippi Burning. Yet again the disabled intellectual story gets the tears flowing so it gets the nod ahead of other more deseriving movies).

[PsYkOoOoO]

Chicago.The Pianist was robbed.

[Bigee04]

I actually wouldn't have minded seeing The Pianist win last year either. TTT had no shot at winning, and rightfully so. The competition was just to stiff that year. The 2001 race down to the wire, it was a toss up between FOTR, A Beautiful Mind, and Moulin Rouge. The right movie won that year though too.

[JackBauer]

i disagree on forrest gump. it deserved every oscar, pulp fiction was great but FG is the better movie.

ROTK, didn't deserve any oscar. especially best pic. there were so many better films in 2003. the show was boring. it was so hyped that it was obvious who'd win the most oscars, but not justified. Last Samurai had better cinematography and costumes IMO.
and again FOTR was far better than ROTK.

[Se7en the movie]

TITANIC!!!! oh and gladiator both average, probably not even worth a nomination

[LordofKings]

Originally posted by Inferno
Gladiator. Seriously, what a piece of rubbish. That horrible story about emperor v democracy - that didn't even make any sense!

Forrest Gump. I enjoyed this movie, but really did it break any new grounds? Shawshank was 1000 times better.

so what if Gump didn't do anything Groundbreaking...did Shawshank? No. Does it matter if a film does anything groundbreaking? NO! Star Wars ep4 was groundbreaking and didn't win.

Forrest Gump deserved that oscar that year. Shawshank was close second, and PF was somewhere after that.

Hanks gave one of the greatest performances (IMO the best) of all time in any film. Truely a GREAT FILM.

[LordofKings]

Gladiator deserved the oscar that year. What a great film. Great acting, entertaining, one of the best scores to any film, wonderful sets and great direction.

what would have beat Gladiator in 2000?

my votes for most undeserved would be:

2001 - A Beautiful Mind (great movie but not better then FOTR)
2002 - Chiacgo (i don't know what deserved Oscar, but not Chicago, not a Musical)

and ROTK was prob one of the MOST DESERVING oscars wins of all time....

[Vincenzo]

Yea, Completely 4git about Shakespeare in Love. Saving Private Ryan was like a masterpiece,

[Vincenzo]

I kind of wanted Mystic River to win Best Picture this year. If I had to choose. But still, ROTK deserved it.

[CoanBread751]

ROTK. There were way better movies out this year. I mean I thought FOTR deserved best pic and I wouldnt have minded if TTT won (because the rest of the nominees sucked). But ROTK just wasnt good enough.

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by CoanBread751
ROTK. There were way better movies out this year. I mean I thought FOTR deserved best pic and I wouldnt have minded if TTT won (because the rest of the nominees sucked). But ROTK just wasnt good enough.

I agree, I was hopig the Academy would give it to a movie that actually deserved it like Mystic River, but no they sold out and gave it to ROTK.

I think TTT deserved it over Chicago.

Titanic, boooo.

American Beauty, I never understood why that movie was so huge, I thought it was so so average.

[rosncranz]

ROTK is one that did not deserve it at all!

[Mat]

Yeah, FOTR is definately the strongest of the trilogy and probably deserved to win. This year I'd say three of the four other nominees deserved to win over ROTK. Sorry Seabiscuit... :)

[rosncranz]

Originally posted by Mat
Yeah, FOTR is definately the strongest of the trilogy and probably deserved to win. This year I'd say three of the four other nominees deserved to win over ROTK. Sorry Seabiscuit... :)

:eek: :eek: :eek: i didnt know anybody else here agreed with me on this! you are my new best friend!

[JackBauer]

i agree. Last Samurai didn't get any oscars, what a shame...

[Doomsday]

Yeah, that was my favorite movie last year too.

[CoanBread751]

WHAT!!! American Beauty is amazing.

[Neverending]

Last 20 years?


1985-Out of Africa
1987-The Last Emperor (The Untouchables and Lethal Weapon were WAY better and should have been nominated.)
1989-Driving Miss Daisy (Batman DAMN IT! :mad: )
1990-Dances with Wolves (Goodfellas should have won)
1996-The English Patient (**** even Independence Day was a better movie)
1998-Shakespear In Love (SAVING PRIVATE RYAN!!!!)
2000-Gladiator (Requiem for a Dream was the best picture of that year)
2001-A Beautiful Mind (I felt "Y Tu Mama Tambien" was a better movie)
2002-Chicago (Minority Report---MURDER!!!!!!)


Prior to 20 years?


1941-How Green Was My Valley (Citizen Kane should have won)
1942-Casablance (I really hate this movie)
1946-The Best Years of Our Lives (Wonderful Life should have won)
1960-The Apartment (Does Psycho ring a bell?)
1964-My Fair Lady (Goldfinger Damn it! :mad: )
1965-The Sound of Music
1966-It doesn't matter who won because The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is one of the greatest movies of all-time.
1969-Again, it doesn't matter because my favorite movie is Once Upon a Time in the West and it is a disgrace that this movie wasn't even nominated for anything.

1977-Annie Hall (Star Wars should have won.)
1978-The Deer Hunter (SUPERMAN is KING!)
1980-Ordinary People (Raging Bull should have won.)
1981-Chariots of Fire (Indiana Jones should have wiped their ass!)

[Darth Vedder]

Why does everybody think "Y tu mama tambien" was an outstanding movie... I mean, it was somewhat good, but nowhere near to the level some of you give to it...

Outstanding Mexican movie: Amores Perros.

[JBond]

I agree ROTK wasn't very Best Picture worthy, but I also think 2003 wasn't the best year for movies. If I could have choosen, I would have picked The Last Samurai.

[Brock Landers]

I would have liked to have had BIG FISH up there in the nominees, and Burton up for Best Director. He rules.

[Necross]

I see everyone saying ROTK didn't deserve it.

But why did Seabiscuit? Oh look another underdog overcomes something.....how original.

Mystic River....oh look a grieveing father......mentally unstable friend.....

The only other movie that I think was worthy of being up there with ROTK was Lost in Translation but ROTK deserved it by far. Oh and I don't care if you disagree, this is my opinion and your not going to change it. But your no more right than I am.

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by JBond
I agree ROTK wasn't very Best Picture worthy, but I also think 2003 wasn't the best year for movies. If I could have choosen, I would have picked The Last Samurai.

That's how I feel.

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by Neverending
Last 20 years?



1942-Casablance (I really hate this movie)


Die.

Originally posted by Neverending
Last 20 years?



1966-It doesn't matter who won because The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is one of the greatest movies of all-time.



OK fine that makes up for it.

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by Necross


But why did Seabiscuit? Oh look another underdog overcomes something.....how original.



Well how can it be original? It's a true story, so everyone already knows what happens.

[Necross]

So what if its a true story, so was Radio but people weren't flocking all over that. It still wasn't an amazing movie. An underrated horse and jock win a race. Even if its true it still the basic underdog story that we have seen in films a million times nothing that deserved the best picture award IMO.

[PsYkOoOoO]

The truth is,whichever movie that wins,someone would complain about how it didnt deserve the award yada yada..

[Necross]

Yeah, I know, but some of those yada yada people don't know their ass from their elbow.

[Doomsday]

Also, Road to Perdition, probably my favorite movie of 2002 and totally overlooked by the Academy.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Well,i think we should discuss which movie deserved a nomination,than to discuss which movie deserved to win.We've discussed this numerous times,havent we?

[Doomsday]

OK.....so I think Road to Perdition deserved a nomination.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I agree on that one too.:)

Was Tom Hanks nominated for best actor as Michael Sullivan?

[Doomsday]

No, it's a shame, he played his character so emotionlessly, which made it that much better. He played a character that he always plays the opposite of.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Yeah,sad.

Love that scene when he walks into the bathroom and...

Also when he runs upstairs and finds (You know what) and starts screaming.Awesome.

[Sora Kahn]

Let's see:

Around the World in 80 Days
A Beautiful Mind
Shakespeare in Love
Chicago

The Return of the King, Ben Hur, and Titanic deserved every award they got. Truly great epic movies.

[adnamasevoltam]

1989 - Dead Poets Society should have beat Driving Miss Daisy

1994 - i like FG, but both Shawshank and Pulp Fiction were better films and one of them should have won over it.

1996 - The English Patient was just an aweful movie to me. Jerry McGuire should have won that (i dont care for Fargo either)

1998 - how could SPR not win? ill never understand that...

2001 - as much as i love A Beautiful Mind, there is NO competition between it and FOTR...Fellowship got TOTALLY gipped.

2003 - ROTK shouldnt have gotten best pic...it just wasnt the best movie released last year. i love it, and its in my top 5. it just wasnt the best pic of the year - LiT or MR should have won, IMO.

[Vincenzo]

I like the fact that know one is saying American Beauty.
And to Neverending:
I think that the Deer Hunter deserved that one.
Raging Bull definetly deserved that.
Citizen Kane really really really deserved it.
And Indiana Jones did too. Pretty good list....

[Iben]

A Beautiful Mind

don't get me wrong it was a good movie, but not that good...and certainly not better than FOTR

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by Vincenzo
I like the fact that know one is saying American Beauty.


Well I did. I don't think I'll ever understand why that movie is so 'great.'

[Warren]

Shakespeare in Love, Dances With Wolves, The English Patient, Kramer vs Kramer, etc.

A Beautiful Mind was better than FOTR, IMO.

American Beauty deserved it.

Gladiator was great. Not as good as Traffic or CTHD, but it was still Oscar worthy.

Road to Perdition wasn't totally overlooked by the Academy, it won best cinematography and was nominated for 5 others. Neither was FOTR.

[secant]

Titanic - Amistad, Good Will Hunting, and As Good as It Gets were all better.
10 minutes of a really cool scene where the ship tips over don't make up for the rest of the boring movie. IMO

[Vincenzo]

True
And to Doomsday...I think that American Beauty was so great was becuase the writing and the acting were superb. To me, there was nothing bad about that movie.

[Bigee04]

Originally posted by Vincenzo
True
And to Doomsday...I think that American Beauty was so great was becuase the writing and the acting were superb. To me, there was nothing bad about that movie.

Two of the movie's better points. I also think the Directing (Sam Mendes) and Cinematography (the late Conrad Hall) were great as well. I think it won the Oscar in both of those categorys.

[adt100]

Chicago.

[obsessedwithsnl]

Shakespeare in Love- It was actually pretty funny in my Language Arts class we're reading Romeo and Juliet and we watched this little documentary on Shakespeare that Miramax as advertising for SIL sent out to a bunch of schools.

Chicago- it should've gone to TT or the Pianist

A Beautiful Mind- FOTR deserved it, but if the Academy really didn't want to give it to a fantasy then Moulin Rouge should have won

[Inferno]

Originally posted by Neverending
Last 20 years?


1985-Out of Africa
1987-The Last Emperor (The Untouchables and Lethal Weapon were WAY better and should have been nominated.)
1989-Driving Miss Daisy (Batman DAMN IT! :mad: )
1990-Dances with Wolves (Goodfellas should have won)
1996-The English Patient (**** even Independence Day was a better movie)
1998-Shakespear In Love (SAVING PRIVATE RYAN!!!!)
2000-Gladiator (Requiem for a Dream was the best picture of that year)
2001-A Beautiful Mind (I felt "Y Tu Mama Tambien" was a better movie)
2002-Chicago (Minority Report---MURDER!!!!!!)


Prior to 20 years?


1941-How Green Was My Valley (Citizen Kane should have won)
1942-Casablance (I really hate this movie)
1946-The Best Years of Our Lives (Wonderful Life should have won)
1960-The Apartment (Does Psycho ring a bell?)
1964-My Fair Lady (Goldfinger Damn it! :mad: )
1965-The Sound of Music
1966-It doesn't matter who won because The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is one of the greatest movies of all-time.
1969-Again, it doesn't matter because my favorite movie is Once Upon a Time in the West and it is a disgrace that this movie wasn't even nominated for anything.

1977-Annie Hall (Star Wars should have won.)
1978-The Deer Hunter (SUPERMAN is KING!)
1980-Ordinary People (Raging Bull should have won.)
1981-Chariots of Fire (Indiana Jones should have wiped their ass!)


These sound more like your favourite movies versus the academy, rather than which films objectively do you think should have won.

I mean, really....Batman, Minority Report, and Superman were all good films, I don't think they really were example of excellence in film making. The Deer Hunter, for example, was told and filmed in a very realistic style - something quite original and different and deserved to win.

[secant]

Originally posted by Neverending

1964-My Fair Lady (Goldfinger Damn it! :mad: )
[/list]

LOL! Oh, come one, are you serious?!? :funny:

[RawDLack]

1976-Rocky over Taxi Driver

[Neverending]

Originally posted by Inferno
The Deer Hunter, for example, was told and filmed in a very realistic style - something quite original and different and deserved to win.

The Deer Hunter wasn't very original. In 1978 there was another movie, which also delt with the aftermath of Vietnam and its vets. It was called: Coming Home. It starred Jon Voight (In his Oscar-Winning role) and Jane Fonda (Also in her Oscar-winning role).

I'm not a big fan of the Deer Hunter. I do think the movie has perhaps one of the most powerful scenes in its genre with the Russian Roulette sequence which involed De Niro and Walken. However, have you seen the first 30 minutes of this movie? It is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o boring! Everything that happens in this movie before De Niro goes Deer hunting for the first time is so ****ing boring. Its basically De Niro and Walken getting drunk at a wedding and calling some guy a ******. I mean c'mon! Was anyone else bored by those early scenes?

The movie is very good in my opinion, but everything that happens before De Niro goes deer hunting for the first time is so boring.

Its just like Easy Rider. Everything is so boring until Jack Nicholson shows up and Fonda and Hopper start getting into trouble with the rednecks.

Of the five movies nominated in 1978 I think either Coming Home or Midnight Express should have won. Sure Deer Hunter was good, but I liked Coming Home and Midnight Express a lot better.

[Andrey83]

I was borred with the entire movie.....

[Neverending]

The Deer Hunter was good and featured some powerful scenes, but everything that occured before De Niro and his gang go hunting for the first time is boring to me. The director should really have fixed those early scenes.

[Karma Police]

citizen kane


one of the best movies ever made.

[Bigee04]

Citizen Kane didn't win Best Picture.

[Mat]

1968- Carol Reed's Oliver! wins... Kubrick's 2001 not even nominated.

[Brock Landers]

I'm still pissed "Titanic" even won it's award. L.A. Confidential was the best movie of 1997 and faaaaar more deserving of the award. Spacey rules.

[Sora Kahn]

Sheez. I can't believe so many say that RotK didn't deserve to win. I know it was a fantasy movie and all. But geez, it wasn't a bad movie for god's sake. I thought it was cool. Oh well, I guess it shows we live in a more reality based society nowadays.

P.S- Big Fish should've won Best Original Screenplay and should've received a Best Pic. Nomination and Best Director Nom.

[Andrey83]

Forrest Gump

Beautiful Mind

Chicago ( i'm not sure either what deserved instead, but i hated the movie so.....)

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by secant
Titanic - Amistad, Good Will Hunting, and As Good as It Gets were all better.
10 minutes of a really cool scene where the ship tips over don't make up for the rest of the boring movie. IMO
So your saying Amistad, Good Will Hunting and As Good As It Gets weren't boring? Oh please, thats crap.
At least Titanic had way more action, but my point is the action scenes alone doesn't make a film, the intimate scenes are what makes it even bigger.
And it wasn't 10 minutes.:rolleyes:

The films that I thought were deserving of a win:
Braveheart
Forrest Gump
Titanic
American Beauty
Gladiator
ROTK

The films that I thought were NOT deserving of a win:
The English Patient
Shakespear In Love
A Beautiful Mind

[Neverending]

Originally posted by Sora Kahn
P.S- Big Fish should've won Best Original Screenplay and should've received a Best Pic. Nomination and Best Director Nom.

Tim Burton is so underrated it isn't funny. Forget Big Fish! What about Batman, Edward Scissorhands, and Ed Wood?

[kel thuzad]

Chicago definitely

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Sora Kahn
P.S- Big Fish should've won Best Original Screenplay and should've received a Best Pic. Nomination and Best Director Nom.

Big fish was a very very very very very very borring movie.......

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Andrey83
Chicago ( i'm not sure either what deserved instead, but i hated the movie so.....)

The Pianist shouldve won!!

I was so bloody blown away by the movie.Argh.One of my favourite movies!