Sequel to Return of the King - Ring of Darkness

[Indy4]

This Russian author, wrote a version of the sequal to LOTR.

Its called the Ring of Darkness.

Check it out

http://www.lionking.org/~mohatu/perumov.htm

if this isnt the whole thing, then can someone post the whole thing

thanks

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/2572/ring/elfblade-1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/2572/ring/elfblade-2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/2572/ring/spear-1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/2572/ring/spear-2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/2572/ring/map2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/2572/ring/map3.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/2572/ring/

[dustindame]

never should be thought about being made. just what toilken wrote, that is the only thing that needs to be in movies.

[Indy4]

he was going to write another supposed to be called the New Darkness

[BanatWolf]

They should make a move about the book The Simillarion That would be cool.

[Inferno]

I heard he never finished The Simillarion. And its very confusing with all its references to people, places and races.

[Soulless]

If it's not writen by J.R.R Toilken then it is not Lord of the Rings, at least to me anyway.

[The Moose]

silmarillion would be an awesome thing to see, but it would be insanely difficult, and not have a real storyline, other than dictated by the one in the book

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by The Moose
silmarillion would be an awesome thing to see, but it would be insanely difficult, and not have a real storyline, other than dictated by the one in the book

Yeah, very difficult. But some of the battles there are pretty awsome :)

And as for the sequel. Tolkien never wanted a sequel as far as i know. Then Cristopher would have started it a long time ago.....

[PsYkOoOoO]

Tolkien actually started on a sequel.But he didnt manage to get pass the first chapter.

[dustindame]

If there was a sequel that toilken would have written that would have been awesome and i would have said made it right away but i give a big NO to this other guy.

[dbbrainer]

Actually I think that a good writer should be able to write a movie about The Silmarillion. Take this for example, they could concentrate the story line on the curse of Finwe, or on the Love of Beren and Luthien, obviously it would not be a 3 hour movie... but it could be a magnificent movie.

[Drogobaggins]

The Silmarillion would have to be spilt up into at least three movies because of the characters and plots.

[Karma Police]

Toilken did start to write after the LOTR, there is a webpage floating around here somewhere with the text Im sure if you keep this around long enough someone will post it, I personally didnt like it much.

and i still stand by that i think the Silmarillion would work best as either several animes, or a TV series

[Indy4]

Originally posted by Karma Police
there is a webpage floating around here somewhere with the text Im sure if you keep this around long enough someone will post it

can anyone find that for me?????

[Kinjo]

I have scans of it. It's called "The New Shadow." It's really not worth reading. It takes place just after Aragorn's death. Main character is Beregond's son. The premise is that children of Gondor are participating in "orc cults" and performing strange rituals. Tolkien wrote 12 pages of it and stopped because it sucked. He chose wisely.

link below

http://www.fountain.btinternet.co.uk/tolkien/

[Indy4]

thanks this is the site I found a while back

[The Prophet]

At the end they vaguely wisper that the new "Dark Lord" figure is named Herumir, and is essentially the human leader of the Orc-cults.

Tolkien said that after Sauron's defeat, there would be no more spiritual Dark Lords (there had already been Morgoth and later Sauron), but that human warlords would try to be Dark Lords...they'd never be as bad as Sauron was.

He also said that the Orcs were crushed, never to rise again.

The idea was that humans would be fighting humans.

There are vague notes in the Appendixes that say that there were wars betwen Aragorn's Reunited Kingdom (allied with Rohan) and the Easterlings and Haradrim, but that Aragorn always won without too much trouble.

[dustindame]

i know this would be really bad to ask but i need to do it(dont make fun of me), what is The Silmarillion.

[the mastermind]

it would be a big mistake for them to make a sequal
and even if they ever do they would have to have an Enormous
buget to work with so that if could be as good as the other films

[dustindame]

I really need an answer because i have no idea what is The Silmarillion.

[flukeman]

It is Tolkein's story of the First Age of Middle Earth. I haven't read it yet myself but I plan to soon.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0618126988/qid=1084203906/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-2298237-3604835

[dustindame]

So how many books did Tolkein actually start or finish that were about middle earth and what were all of there names?

[dustindame]

I really need to know!!

[Andrey83]

oh....hard question. How many he started? MANY ;)

THough most of the tales he didnt finish. Some has been completed by Christopher Tolkien, and some hasnt been completed (lost tales).

There are around 25 books or something....

[big_boy_01]

why do people have to die :'( well when i eventualy pop my clogs, i am most definateky going straigh to tolkein, he must of finished a fair few books by now lol

[dustindame]

Alright how many did he finish completely and what were there names.

[dustindame]

i know it is hard but when i look it up i cant get and exact amount. There are ones that are the history of middle earth that range from volume 1-11 or something like that and some others but i dont know which all of them are. Because you guys know way more than i do about middle earth and i dont want it to be like that i want to know just as much. I want to know everything there is to know that Tolkien wrote about it.

[dustindame]

I need to know this, because i want to read all the books and i dont want to leave any out.

[flukeman]

Start off with LOTR or The Hobbit - that will give you plenty of time to research the other works in the meantime.

[JackBauer]

No. Sequels.

[dustindame]

Is there a 1-11volume series about the history of middle earth.

[Turin Turambar]

Originally posted by BanatWolf
They should make a move about the book The Simillarion That would be cool.

Absolutely not. LOTR is about events that happened in a 17 year span, most of it focusing between 7 months (September thru March). Even with three 3 hour movies, they had to omit much of the story to fit the big picture.

Now try to take a 6,000+ year history (more or less) and cram it into one movie. I would give you 8 movies and you still would not tell the whole story. It would be a film-making nightmare. Besides, the Silmarillion is not very widely known so you couldn't just market it as "From the author who brought you LOTR" and expect the public to buy into it.

I think there are some stories that are complete enough that they could possibly be told in one movie (Beren & Luthien; Turin; Tuor & Gondolin) but it would only be taking a small part of a much greater history. The end result would be a disgrace to the work that Tolkien spent 50+ years of his life trying to compile.

[Turin Turambar]

Originally posted by dustindame
Alright how many did he finish completely and what were there names.

Google is a wonderful thing, my friend.

[dustindame]

I tried looking everything up but they just dont put anything in a simple list. And i was thinking somebody in here would know maybe. I just want to know if i wanted to read all the books on middle earth how many there are and what there names are. Which one should i read first because i know that there are a lot.

[dustindame]

I just bought the hobbit and am a slow reader, so maybe in a week or two i will understand more of the stuff you are talking about.