is palpatine anakins father?

[D-fence]

???

[EmpireOfDust]

uhhh...No...
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Hee hee i can see it now... It was a cold and dark night on Tatooine, Shmi Skywalker was sleeping when a strange man crept through the window... This man was very quiet... His name was the soon to be Senator Palpatine, and he slowly crept into her bed and did the nasty, Shmi didnt make a peep. she was busy dreaming about David Hasselhoff throwing frisbee's to his friends on the beach... Senator Palpatine left in silence... HE would come back for his son 16 years after he is born, and reclaim him and turn him to the dark side...

[David]

"Dreaming about David Hasselhoff"
AAAAAARRGH!!!!!

[D-fence]

just think about it..
Lucas likes to link stuff to the old trilogy right? what if he re-uses the "i am your father" part, but in another context..

lets say.. cloning? he creates,with cloning, the ultimate jedi: one with such a high midiclorian count in his blood the jedi MUST think he is the chosen one.. shimi said that she doesn't remember a father.. why would she?! palpatine PLANTED this perfect jedi trap inside her, and just had to wait for the perfect moment to claim his prise:
first the jedi teach the boy all the tricks,
then he makes sure Anakin comes in contact with the dark side (palpi aranges his mother to get killed) and then he pulls him in..
"join me son.. together we can rule.." you know the drill.

Palpi planed this whole thing YEARS before episode I.. Anakin is a creation made for helping palpatine when his whole plan has come together.. anakin is just a part in a whole network of things created by this evil genius to take over the galaxy.. and judging from the black dude making his entree in a new hope..he had succes.

(ofcourse what palpi doesn't know is that anakin really WAS the chosen one, and that palpi himself was part of the prophecy)

but i will shut-up now.. http://www.comingsoon.net/ubb/smile.gif

[EmpireOfDust]

errr..ok....

[Mr.Mysterious]

If that were true that would really screw up my universe especially if I were Anakin and found out my momma was doing the nasty with Palpatine what next Chewbacca the father to Jabba the Hut. I would hope they keep Anakin's dad sortof like Jesus in Christianity he was concieved without sex so what can't Shmi.If Lucas makes Palpatine the father he would hold great resentment to Shmi for lying to him and to Almidala for holding him back from trying to repair that loss of time.

[JBond]

Originally posted by Mr.Mysterious:
what next Chewbacca the father to Jabba the Hut.

No, that's rediculous! Chewbacca is the father of Alf! Think about it!

[Jawatrader]

Good point Bond, thats why Chewir goes to eat that cat like thing in the Endor forest, when they all get trapped, its all becoming clear

[D-fence]

*burp!* :alien:

[jpdill]

Anakin isthe STAR WARS equivalent to Jesus - the force (a.k.a. God) got Shmi pregnant.

[droidguy1119]

I came into this thread to give a big WTF to D-fence, but I see I have to give one to jpdill as well. Anakin is not an equivalent to Jesus. Anakin is an equivalent to figures in legends, not Bible stories. Star Wars is based on stuff like Lord of the Rings and the tale of Arthur.

[Dracula]

Anikin was born of the force hence a "virgince in the force" a christ comparisin.

[Tara]

Originally posted by Dracula
Anikin was born of the force hence a "virgince in the force" a christ comparisin.

That was always what i thought to. That Anikin was an imaculate conception, like jesus, because he had the power to be the saviour of the jedis and stuff like that...

[jpdill]

Anakin - the father was The Force and he is a saviour

Jesus - the father was God and he is a saviour

Droidguy - shut up.

[jpdill]

Also, STAR WARS is based on the Bible too.

[Del Griffith]

The force created Anakin to bring "balance" because of the dark lords of the sith.

[Izzy]

Originally posted by jpdill
Anakin - the father was The Force and he is a saviour

Jesus - the father was God and he is a saviour


But Jesus didn't go whining about how he was trained, and he wasn't a cocky bastard, and he didn't end up joining the devil (palpatine equivelent if you will). And the force being the equivelent to god? Then that would mean everyone (well at least the jedi) would be children of the force. And if it were only the jedi who were children of the force, then that throws everything you just said out of context, since according to the bible that we're all his children. And if everyone wasn't a child of the force then once again. Out of context. Anakin was no savior, and Jesus did have a legal father, Anakin didn't. Jesus forgave everyone who wronged him. Anakin didn't. Anakin didn't go around healing everyone. Jesus did. Anakin didn't have diciples. Jesus didn't have children who ended up going against him. Jesus didn't destroy the home of his daugter, Jesus didn't kill his wife (he didn't have one), Jesus didn't kill the devil (once again, palpatine equivelent) when he defied him. So i have to very strongly disagree with you on that.

[Izzy]

Originally posted by jpdill
Also, STAR WARS is based on the Bible too.

Give me as many good reasons that it is, as i have given that it's not. Please, i'd like to hear them.

[jpdill]

Lucas got the idea of Anakin not actually having a father from the Bible (ie. Shmi the Virgin).

There's also smaller stuff.

[droidguy1119]

There are a couple small parallels, but does Star Wars really parallel the Bible enough to say it draws from it, or do the stories that Lucas draws from do it, and therefore the comparison works out a few times? It seems like there are considerably less comparisons to the Bible than anything, which is why this thread is the first time I've heard the concept brought up.

[jpdill]

STAR WARS is also based on the welsh traditions, asain culture, and some chinese films from the 60s.

It sorta makes STAR WARS a likable universe.

I also sorta like the fact you have two classes, and if you're from one, you must follow that rule and society. This is what causes the Republic to fall.

One good example is that you don't have "girlfriends" and "boyfriends" as such, and that you get married straightaway. You have to be in a stable enviroment before you have children (in a marriage, money, etc.) It shows how an idealistic world isn't really ideal for humanity.

STAR WARS is based on many things - Lucas has taken elements from many stories. The Lord of the Rings is one of the main ones, and The Hidden Fortress is another.

And as i remember Lucas saying somewhere on the net 2 years or so back, STAR WARS Episode I to VI is the story of Jesus retold in another world.

But the bible isn't really as big a comparison as LOTR, Hidden Fort, or traditional views.

[droidguy1119]

Okay, I will concede this point. I mean, it's probably the least-mentioned source for the Star Wars material, but yeah. I guess. I wouldn't tell people that, though.

[eclipsedman]

If you really wan't to see how Lucas came about the ideas for SW check out the book "Star Wars - The Magic of Myth ". It will change the way you view these films, I kid you not. In regards to the bible you need to think more along the lines of the old testament.

[dogisburning]

Uh,I have a question about the chosen One thing.
So Anakin is The One,and he balances the force when he dies(ROTJ) But how did that happen?We didn't really see anything happen,did we?

[jpdill]

We saw the end of the sith and rebirth of the Jedi

[zamphir66]

I'm your Daddy.

[dogisburning]

Originally posted by jpdill
We saw the end of the sith and rebirth of the Jedi
We did?All I saw was the party with the Ewoks and Luke seeing Obi-wan,Anakin and Yoda's ghosts.