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Morgoth
01-09-2004, 02:57 PM
Over the holidays I had the pleasure of seeing RoTK with some friends, one of whom I had turned on to The Silmarillion when we were in high school. Going out for some beers later, we ended up hashing out - in a fan-boy kind of way - our opinions about the potential of a highly unlikely film-version of that book.

We ended up deciding that, while the book might be best served as a mini-series, it could probably be produced as a fairly coherent trilogy with some creative license taken in the filming process and story-telling.

For instance, the first film could set the stage for the Great War. A introductory prologue could trace the creation of Middle Earth, the rift between Melkor and the other Valar, down through the birth of the Eldar and the creation of the Two Trees. The plot would follow the creation of the Silmarils by Feanor, the plots of Melkor and the soap-opera like drama between the sons of Finwe (Fingolfin and Feanor). Then, of course, the poisoning of the trees, the murder of Finwe, the rebellion of the Noldor and the very dramatic, dark episode of the Kinslaying. Essentially, it could follow a pretty basic dramatic plot of war and conflict to the death of Feanor and the rescue of Maedhros from Thangorodrim, the establishment of Fingolfin as the High King and the setting of the Siege.

A second film could focus on primarily on the story of Beren and Luthien with cuts to the war, the death of Fingolfin etc. The meeting of Thingol and Melian could be a flashback scene. You could introduce Sauron in the beginning as he hunts down the outlaws of Dorthonion. It could end with the Battle of Unnumbered Tears -- leaving an audience with the sense of loss and ruin. You could set the stage for the final movie by showing the final parting of Huor and Turgon of Gondolin.

The final film would centrally follow the exploits of Turin and Tuor, the downfalls of Nargothrond and Doriath, the quest of Earendil and the final battle to overthrow Morgoth.

Anyway, we ended up agreeing that it would be nearly impossible to make a really intriquing film out of the book, though we'd love to see an effort made.

Barring that, we both agreed that there were a few stories that could almost be concieved as stand-alone movies. Certainly the story of Beren and Luthien is one. The story of Turin Turambar would be a very dark tragedy, but worth telling. The entire episode of the fall of Gondolin and Doriath would be harder to concieve on film, but might be done.

It was an interesting conversation...

DolAmroth
01-09-2004, 03:14 PM
I think the Silmarillion would make a great 10 hour mini series.

LordofKings
01-09-2004, 03:49 PM
Haven't read it yet but the above trilogy idea doesn't sound bad at all. A miniseries could be good, but i would only want to see it done with good writers (maybe PJ could help and fran walsh could write some) and much of the LOTR technical crew members being apart of it. And on HBO, with a relativly big budget for a miniseries.

Detori
01-09-2004, 07:41 PM
It could only work as a mini-series since you'd be switching narratives all the time. Think the Clone Wars cartoon, but much much longer

JBomb87
01-11-2004, 04:08 PM
I think the Silmarillion will make a good anime. They can make it into something like the Animatrix. That was the prequel to the Matrix Trilogy. Perhaps they can do something of that sort. Or maybe they could attempt to make a live-action movie.

Or maybe not...Who knows?

PsychoMike
01-11-2004, 08:39 PM
I'd like to see it as a Live action instead of Anime.

But definitly a mini-seris, with a decent budget.

darthspielberg
01-11-2004, 08:55 PM
I have been told that Similarion was boring, but i guess i will have to re-read it.

PsYkOoOoO
01-11-2004, 10:51 PM
boring??gosh its very very interesting...

Spy-Of-Saruman
01-12-2004, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by darthspielberg
I have been told that Similarion was boring, but i guess i will have to re-read it.

Well, if youve already read it you shouldnt need someone else to tell you if its boring or not

Necross
01-12-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by darthspielberg
I have been told that Similarion was boring, but i guess i will have to re-read it.

HAHAHA! THATS FUNNY! BORING!? It was fasinating, I read it in two days! Anyway, I agree that I would love to see it as a movie even though I know its impossible. I mean me and my friends split it up too...but we came up with 9 movies....

Movie List:

1. Of the Coming of the Elves and the Captivity of Melkor

2. Of the Silmarils and the Unchaining of Melkor

3. Of the Flight of the Noldor and the Darkening of Valinor.

4. Of the Sun and the Moon and the Return of the Noldor.

5. Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Coming of Men

6. Of Beren and Luthien

7. Of Turin Turambar and the Final Battle

8. Of the Ruin of Doriath and the Fall of Gondolin

9. Of the Voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath

...So yeah...basically impossible lol.

evenstar
01-12-2004, 01:38 PM
Jeez, two days!
Certain aspects of the book would certainly make a fantastic basis for a film imo.

darthspielberg
01-12-2004, 01:38 PM
correction: I have never read it, so is should not have said "re-read" it. Sorry. I will have to READ it.

DangerMouse
01-12-2004, 02:52 PM
Although virtually impossible logistics wise, I always thought it would be really cool to see Tolkien told in claymation.

Now granted, you couldn't do it the old fashiond way, with actual clay figures (ala Wind in the Willows), but maybe Pixar (or something like it) would be able to come up with somesort of animation technique that resembles old claymation.

Granted if they did the Silmarillion, the work alone for an animated feature would take 3 solid years even with computers.

But I think it would be so incredibly cool.

Brock Landers
01-12-2004, 07:35 PM
I like the idea of The Silmarillion being done similiar to "The Animatrix". Smashing idea!

PsYkOoOoO
01-14-2004, 07:43 AM
yea i like that idea too...its got to be cheaper that way?

JBomb87
01-14-2004, 02:42 PM
It will be more believeable as a animation movie.

RingWraith2k4
01-14-2004, 02:49 PM
I think it would benefit greatly if it was done in anime style form of a series.