*Official* The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King response thread!

[Glordreen]

I agree, when the hobbits ran after Aragorn, that was pure brilliance, I couldnt help but smile.

[southern]

2nd favorite part of the movie
they didn't even hesitate:)

[Gandollum]

Yeah i loved that part too, and this is why Lord of the Rings is just brilliant.

[LOTRNUT04]

God, that was the best ****ing movie ive ever seen. I couldn't believe how many times the audience broke into applause. It actually became a bit annoying :)

When the lights dimmed
when previews ended
when LOTR came up
when ROTK came up
when aragorn jumped from the ship w/ AOTD
when eowyn said i am no man
when eowyn killed the witchking
when legolas dismounted from the elephant thing
when gimli said his line
when aragorn was crowned
when sam got married
when it said the end (screaming included)

there were probably more that im forgetting. There was a bit too much cheering IMO. I like it when people get involved and excited about movies and applaud, but this was a bit much for me.

[southern]

unfortunetly the audience only clapped when teh theatre finally decided ot show the movie
and also it could be because that theatre was horrible and it was so hot i could ahve passed out:(

hopefully much applause when i see it tomorrow

[Icelle]

i am so sad to see the movie end. im gonna go see it again tomorrow.

and yes, eowyn kicked major ass.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by Cloud Buster
Actually, I thought that was Beregond. If they had Imrahil in the film, there would have to have been a whole other bunch of soldiers, and at LEAST Imrahil would have been wearing the logo of the Silver Swan.

This guy seemed like he was a soldier in Minas Tirith, and he was involved in Denethor's pyre in a similar capacity to Beregond in the book. *shrug*, don't know, just seemed like Beregond to me.



WAIT!!!!!

You're right. Look:

Ian Hughes plays Beregond, this is Ian Hughes:

http://www.elfica.com/cast/images/ian_hughes_beregond.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/272017/imrahil.JPG

[adt100]

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
God, that was the best ****ing movie ive ever seen. I couldn't believe how many times the audience broke into applause. It actually became a bit annoying :)

When the lights dimmed
when previews ended
when LOTR came up
when ROTK came up
when aragorn jumped from the ship w/ AOTD
when eowyn said i am no man
when eowyn killed the witchking
when legolas dismounted from the elephant thing
when gimli said his line
when aragorn was crowned
when sam got married
when it said the end (screaming included)

there were probably more that im forgetting. There was a bit too much cheering IMO. I like it when people get involved and excited about movies and applaud, but this was a bit much for me.

This must be a perculiarly American trend, because I've heard of cheering/clapping before, but never really experienced it in cinemas in the UK. For the first time I can remember though, the audience did break out into applause at the end of ROTK when 'The End' came up. :)

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

It's still cool, we may not have Imrahil (even though you can see a banner of the silver swan in a quick wideshot of the battle of morannon) but alteast we have Beregond. Another fan favorite.

I would love if he has more scenes in the EE along with Bergil.

[tiff_t_t]

Whatever happened to Liv singing a song?? That was reported everywhere? Remember? I wonder if they had her singing "Into the West" before Annie got asked??

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by tiff_t_t
Whatever happened to Liv singing a song?? That was reported everywhere? Remember? I wonder if they had her singing "Into the West" before Annie got asked??

It was scrapped.

She was not to sing the feature song, but sing a little in the film. Like Viggo did.

[JesterX1313]

Originally posted by downflow311
hey did you get film strips and a shirt and neck badge at your trilogy tuesday? or was your gift different then at my showing?

I got a neck badge, the frame with 3 film strips in it, and discounts on food at concessions. Oh and free pizza. It was cool.

What was the shirt? What theatre was it at? I was at AMC Mission Valley 20 in San Diego.

[Witch King]

ROTK: Greatest film ever made

[PsYkOoOoO]

actually guys..i made a full review of the movie but u know what?my com hung when i pressed submit reply...great..i will make another one later...

[Gandollum]

^hahaha, that happened to me to, so i just wrote a small review, ill make another another when i see it again on sat

[DolAmroth]

I think the most moving part in the movie was when Aragorn said
"For Frodo"

[Gandollum]

My favorite is when Gandalf and Pippin ride to each section of Minas Tirith. I love that part, especially the Minas Tirith soundtrack playing. The beacon scene is also incredible, the cinematography is amazing during that scene.

[Cbars]

Originally posted by DolAmroth
I think the most moving part in the movie was when Aragorn said
"For Frodo"

I agree with you, and I really hope they add the MOS bringing the mithrail shirt into the EE. That would make the scene perfect for me. Them thinking that Frodo had been killed.

[Gandollum]

Did anyone actually cry, I almost did at many scenes but there werent any tears. Is there something wrong with me?

[Gandollum]

Sweet my 1000th post.

[JesterX1313]

Originally posted by Gandollum
Sweet my 1000th post.

I was really excited about my 100th post an hour ago. Now I feel small. :)

Good job.

[Gandollum]

Yeah, thanks, not only do i get to watch ROTK today but its also my 1000th post, this is a pretty good day.

[DolAmroth]

Remember how They were talking about how theres new stronger orcs in rotk that are little bigger. I didnt see any bigger or stronger orcs in rotk then fotr or TTT.

[Gandollum]

Man, i forgot one scene, even though its not in the books, the Aragorn telling the Hobbits "you bow to no one", that was such an incredible scene. The expression on their faces were just moving. That scene almost made me cry, i think when i watch it again, im seriously gonna lose it.

[RingWraith2k4]

I loved ROTK so much, in my eyes, the every character in Middle-Earth can do no wrong.

But I have a friend who never read the books went to see it today and he was pissed off beyond belief when Frodo left with Gandalf. Saying: "How could he just leave his Hobbit friends after all they've been through, and especially Sam!?"

I explained to him about the wound and all and that was the way it was written in the books, but he didn't want to hear it. Now he hates Frodo for leaving.

Thinking about that for a while, and come to think of it, the wound never really bothered him throughout most of the journey, and you would think he'd be happy to be back in the shire.
But oh well, every character has their reasons, even though sometimes it doesn't make sense to the reader or the moviegoer.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Gandollum
Did anyone actually cry, I almost did at many scenes but there werent any tears. Is there something wrong with me?

me too..u are not alone if there's smth really wrong with u..:P

[DolAmroth]

I didnt cry but I got teary eyed. But I let it come out cause I wanted to I could of held it back if I wanted to.

[droidguy1119]

*sigh*...the thread I was on got closed...

[DolAmroth]

The Nazul seemed alot more ferice in ROTK

[PsYkOoOoO]

less scary...scarier in fotr

[DolAmroth]

I mean the Fell beasts

[Mr. Frodo]

now ive just seen it again and it still blows my mind it's so powerful i loved the battles its just an all around kick ass movie one thing was a bit odd.. is it me or does the Mumak commader's horn sould like a saxophone? :D Gimli's lines always got a good laugh and people where crying at the end God i love this movie!

[PsYkOoOoO]

i like the commanders...:) i didnt notice the horns though

[Lurtz_2000]

has anyone noticed that the sound has used the same man scream three times...? it's a kind of high pitched scream
once at helms deep when an elf falls off the deeping wall in TTT, then 2 in ROTK, i think the first one was when faramir and men are charging back to MT from osgiliath and a fell beast picks a man up and then drops him back to the ground. then when one of the haradrim fall off their oliphaunt.

[DolAmroth]

Originally posted by Mr. Frodo
now ive just seen it again and it still blows my mind it's so powerful i loved the battles its just an all around kick ass movie one thing was a bit odd.. is it me or does the Mumak commader's horn sould like a saxophone? :D Gimli's lines always got a good laugh and people where crying at the end God i love this movie!

That guys Hourn was soo cool. It makes such a strong sound.

[Mr. Frodo]

yeah thats been said before its the Wilhelm or something scream its been used numerous times before in movies.

[Lurtz_2000]

damn, lotr should use something not used before.. it's too epic to use not original stuff

[PsYkOoOoO]

i dun really care..hahaha

[Mr. Frodo]

yeah i know it sounds reall cool

[Lurtz_2000]

yeah neither

[Lurtz_2000]

did anyone think rosie cotton looked different in ROTK then from FOTR? older even.
i saw her at ROTK premiere in Wellington and she looked exactly the same as in FOTR....

[PsYkOoOoO]

she looked different yea...well they were gone for a year right?so...

[Lurtz_2000]

i suppose. but it didn't look like makeup

[Mr. Frodo]

oh yeah i just rememberd... when frodo confesses he dosn't remember the shire and how he's naked in the dark and he sees the ring of fire in his waking eyes... notice how blue his eyes are its really quite breathtaking...

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by Gandollum
Did anyone actually cry, I almost did at many scenes but there werent any tears. Is there something wrong with me?

There is nothing wrong with you...

I cried at the premiere and got teary eyes at my second viewing. I hope no one thinks less of me for confessing that because you all should know that "not all tears are evil..."

[Gandollum]

Ill probably cry when I get the dvd and watch it by myself. I dont really want to cry at a public place.

[Kerry]

Ahhh, Frodo's...I mean...Elijah's eyes ALWAYS look breathtaking!!!!:rolleyes: When he gathered all his strength and shot up Mt. Doom I was like, "oooooh, I think I may have fallen madly in love with him!" ....not that I haven't already fallen in love with the wonderful Mr.Wood!:eek:

[Rogue]

The thing that stuck with me was that I was surrounded by other's crying. Even the men. (I know that sounds horribly sexist but you don't get huge amounts of men that cry over films). I doubt there was a dry eye in the place and that hit me.

I'd give the movie four stars out of four. There may be flaws but I think it balances out in the end. You know it's good when you walk out of the theater in tears and you can't put a sentence together about it for ten minutes. ;)

[Ghostofzion2003]

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
There is nothing wrong with you...

I cried at the premiere and got teary eyes at my second viewing. I hope no one thinks less of me for confessing that because you all should know that "not all tears are evil..."

nice, great line i dont think anyone will think less of anyone for crying, or atleast they shouldnt.

[Lurtz_2000]

i feel so proud to live in New Zealand and knowing it is where Middle-Earth came to life....... lol

[Queen Arwen]

I'm going to sound so illiterate and repetitive, but I love it more than I can say. Yes, I got the chance to see it tonight. It's my favorite movie. Eowyn and the WiKi was brilliant! "I am no man!" And without a doubt, my favorite line in the entire trilogy, I couldn't stop saying it: "For Frodo." I'm speechless. I can't articulate. At some points, I was thinking "Wtf?" But in the end (which I had some problems with), there's nothing under the sun that can match the experience of watching ROTK.

[Lurtz_2000]

man the stairs of cirith ungol were steep. it was more like climbing a cliff

[Macbane]

I loved this movie, I just wish they could have expanded some of the stuff they had in there. Like the watchers at Cirith Ungol. You see Sam look up at them, and then it cuts to him walking inside. I hope that makes it in the EE.

Which brings me to another thing. The only real problem I had with the movie is that I kept telling myself "Man, I can't wait to see this scene expanded in the EE..." I'm gonna go see it again tomorrow, and this time around I'll watch the movie for what it is, and I'm sure I'll get more out of it than I did the first time. Not that I wasn't completely blown away by it. :cool:

[ILOVEKATIE]

One of my favorite scenes is when Frodo and Sam are crawling on the side of Mt. Doom, and you see how exhausted they both are, then Sam starts telling Frodo, "Do you remember the Shire Mr. Frodo, it's almost Spring...the flowers begin to blossom...", it was something like that, that scene made me all teary.

[maul42]

I'm so mad about the local movie review board I visit. In one night, ROTK dropped from best rated movie of the year, to a mediocre 2.7 stars, just under Old School and Tupac: Resurrection. It mostly happened from people who were lost in the epic story and number of characters, as well as beligerent spammers calling Frodo and Sam a couple of faries. This board is a breath of fresh air. Hardly a complaint among the bunch. If you want to support the film's integrity, stop by
www.the-movie-times.com and drop a positive vote!

[The Moose]

ROTK's doign well here. pulled an entire $1 million NZ (about $600000 US) is on opening day. shows ya the power of the NZ box office.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by maul42
I'm so mad about the local movie review board I visit. In one night, ROTK dropped from best rated movie of the year, to a mediocre 2.7 stars, just under Old School and Tupac: Resurrection. It mostly happened from people who were lost in the epic story and number of characters, as well as beligerent spammers calling Frodo and Sam a couple of faries. This board is a breath of fresh air. Hardly a complaint among the bunch. If you want to support the film's integrity, stop by
www.the-movie-times.com and drop a positive vote!

who cares abt that website

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
I'm going to sound so illiterate and repetitive, but I love it more than I can say. Yes, I got the chance to see it tonight. It's my favorite movie. Eowyn and the WiKi was brilliant! "I am no man!" And without a doubt, my favorite line in the entire trilogy, I couldn't stop saying it: "For Frodo." I'm speechless. I can't articulate. At some points, I was thinking "Wtf?" But in the end (which I had some problems with), there's nothing under the sun that can match the experience of watching ROTK.

For Frodo! :D

[PsYkOoOoO]

im watching it again tmr morning!!!!!

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
im watching it again tmr morning!!!!!

I've seen it twice already, and I'll be going again on Monday morning. :cool:

[Baadshah]

i have a question
Where did Frodo go at the end? I wasn't really paying attention to where the elves were going because it was all boring for me. Plus the ending was dragging and dragging that i was not concentrating.

[flukeman]

Just more random thoughts -

I totally forgot to mention this before, but another scene that really grabbed me was when Frodo was hanging off the ledge in Mt. Doom and Sam is reaching for him. Frodo has a look on his face that pretty much says he has resigned himself to his fate and is just going to fall, and Sam reads it and says forcefully "Don't you let go!" and then repeats it again. I thought that part was very much like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but WOW!

[Mr. Frodo]

To the Grey Havens... The Undying lands... leaving middle earth never to return.. although in the books later Gimli and Legolas and finally sam end up going too.

[Kolobrod]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
One of my favorite scenes is when Frodo and Sam are crawling on the side of Mt. Doom, and you see how exhausted they both are, then Sam starts telling Frodo, "Do you remember the Shire Mr. Frodo, it's almost Spring...the flowers begin to blossom...", it was something like that, that scene made me all teary.

I so agree. This actually hit me this morning as I was driving to work, that that scene was amazing, and Elija's performance in it may have been his best in the entire trilogy for him. The way he says "I can't remember the taste of food, the feel of grass.." is just heartwrenching.

As much credit as Sean Astin has been given for his performance (and rightly so), I don't think Elija is given enough credit. The Mount Doom scenes were played by him perfectly.

[JediPaul]

Great film, it just kicking in now that this amazing fantasy trilogy has come to end and look back at the years when the Lord of the Rings was first advertised at cinema, iI can't believe where the time as gone. I agree, great touching scene with Sam and Frodo at Mount Doom.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

The scenes with Frodo holding the Ring in Mount Doom was truly scary by Elijha and Sam with the sobbing "No" before the "Noooooooooo!!"

[Rabbit12]

i know!!!
my two favourite bits were:
-legolas bringing down an olephant(or whatever u call it)
-eowyn pullin her helmet off and sayin "i am no man!" before killin the witchking(or whatever u call it)...that bit i loved as i'm a girl. i felt like standin up and screamin "hell yea!-girl power!"....the last time i remember feelin that was in the matrix revoulotions when trinity put the gun to the snoby french guy's head......

[SD_Eagle5]

I don't recall seeing it posted: But, one of my favorite parts of this movie, was when the Hobbits bowed to Aragorn -- after he had been appointed 'King', only to have Aragorn say "You bow to no one". I swear I almost shed a tear.

[adt100]

Originally posted by JesterX1313

Originally posted by downflow311
hey did you get film strips and a shirt and neck badge at your trilogy tuesday? or was your gift different then at my showing?

I got a neck badge, the frame with 3 film strips in it, and discounts on food at concessions. Oh and free pizza. It was cool.

What was the shirt? What theatre was it at? I was at AMC Mission Valley 20 in San Diego.

What's all this about 'gifts' for Trilogy Tuesday in the US, and what were the film strips you talk of?

The UK didn't do anything like this unfortunately, so we missed out as usual :(

[Ahreron]

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
It was scrapped.

She was not to sing the feature song, but sing a little in the film. Like Viggo did.

where was her scene at the little bridge where her father says, you gave away your life grace, I cant protect u anymore, it wa sin the trailer, booh :(

[flukeman]

Originally posted by adt100
What's all this about 'gifts' for Trilogy Tuesday in the US, and what were the film strips you talk of?

The UK didn't do anything like this unfortunately, so we missed out as usual :(

Our theater didn't do any other gifts, just the film strips.

The film strips are an actual frame cut from each movie and mounted in a decorative setting. It's hard to describe, here's a link:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=filmframe

[Rogue]

I really enjoyed the wit that everyone displayed, despite the hard times. Gimli comes to mind with this one. I loved the part when Gimli is smoking and just talking about how they could die and they don't have a good chance to succeed. He says "What are we waiting for?!" That was great.

Oh, and Gandalf fighting..who knew? ;) I love those scenes.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by adt100
I got a neck badge, the frame with 3 film strips in it, and discounts on food at concessions. Oh and free pizza. It was cool.

What was the shirt? What theatre was it at? I was at AMC Mission Valley 20 in San Diego.

What's all this about 'gifts' for Trilogy Tuesday in the US, and what were the film strips you talk of?

The UK didn't do anything like this unfortunately, so we missed out as usual :( [/QUOTE]

At my theater (Carmike Wynnsong 16 in des moines, IA) we got a shirt that had the LOTR logo and said 'I survived Trilogy Tuesday' and we also got the neck badge with th Trilogy Tuesday pic on it as well as the film strips. i think every location did things differently. i didnt get pizza but got a sandwich with chips and a cookie.;)

[Lurtz_2000]

does anyone kno the name of those creatues that were pulling grond???
they looked abit like rhinos

[moviegeek]

When Frodo and Sam are sitting on the rock as the lava pass them by and Frodo goes I remember the Shire....and Sam says that he would have wanted to marry Rosie, that was the first time I cried through the whole movie. That was an awesome scene. And then the whole I'm glad you're here with me Sam part was great.

[Cbars]

I think Elijah did a great job with all of it. He looked so exhausted and wrung out. I just watched FOTR again and there is such a difference.

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by Cbars
I think Elijah did a great job with all of it. He looked so exhausted and wrung out. I just watched FOTR again and there is such a difference.

I prefer Elijah Wood in FOTR and at the end of ROTK: he looks so much better and so much more important when he's wearing his smart Hobbit attire, as opposed to crawling in the Mordor dust. I must say that I got slightly peeved with all of Elijah Wood's 'rolleyes' shots in TTT.

[Cbars]

I know what you mean, he was awesome in FOTR, not so awesome in TTT, but just as awesome in ROTK. I am going again tonight, so I will have to see what I pick up this time that I missed before. I do remember that one shot where Sam wakes him up, he looked so tired, I felt so sad.

[Mac]

I just got back from seeing Return of the King. I hated it. I hated the Two Towers. I loved the Fellowship. I just can't take it anymore, these 3 hour movies that go on and on (Matrix Revolutions, Master and Commander) must not be ment for me. I really wanted the movie (ROTK) to end after about 1 hour. The only part that i really enjoyed was the scene with the giant elephants being attacked. I realize nobody will agree with me when i say Return of the King was a failure, but hey, it is my opinion.

Mac

[adt100]

Not a very well expressed opinion I have to say. If you hate TTT then why even bother going to see ROTK.

[downflow311]

i dont know what more you could have asked for Mac?!?!?!

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by Ahreron
where was her scene at the little bridge where her father says, you gave away your life grace, I cant protect u anymore, it wa sin the trailer, booh :(

Cut.

[Rocksolidus]

ROTK is the best movie i have, and probably ever will have witnessed in my life. so much intensity w/ the different siuation changes and different strategies that took place. i especially loved the way that frodo had been tricked by smeagle to think that sam would want to carry the ring. by and by, he is only hobbit. hes not perfect. i know that its impossibe.but i wish that JRR Tolkein would have written Sams storry. Their is Bilbo's, Frodo's, and then what ever happened to Sam's??

[Rocksolidus]

Originally posted by Cbars
I think Elijah did a great job with all of it. He looked so exhausted and wrung out. I just watched FOTR again and there is such a difference.

there is such emotion involved with this movie, it almost seems that his name should be changed to Elijah Baggins. He takes the part so well.

[The Moose]

elijah did do a really good job. not too sure about the eye rolling in TTT, but it did work some of the time. i'm a little surprised they had no scene with Frodo and one of the Nazgul in ROTK. there was teh scsne with the log and the Buckleberry Ferry in FOTR, and the Fell Beast over the Dead Marshes, but i think that there should have been something like that in ROTK. i know there was a bit of that in the book, but it was probably one of the bits of Sam and Frodo going through Mordor that was cut due to time

[BaMBbLeS]

I saw ROTK at the Midnight showing on Wednesday and once again yesterday afternoon. The best way to describe it was that words couldn’t describe it (although amazing, wow, and incomprehensible sounds of glee were quite frequent) so I guess words could describe it… eh I’m confusing myself now…

Overall I’d have to say it was just as much as I’d hoped it would be. Even knowing what was going to happen didn’t stop me from getting onto a praying pose and repeating, “please don’t die...”

The beginning just kind of hit me in a rush, although I was quite excited to see Merry and Pippin being Merry and Pippin. I didn’t miss the Saruman scene, at all really. I thought I would but I really didn’t miss it. I’m glad it’s in the EE though.

I loved the battle scenes, especially TBOPF. The returning of the prisoners I really thought was a plus. With this battle though comes that beloved Legolas scene. Now don’t get me wrong the scene was sweet but after it I realized that I was surrounded by a bunch of Legolas fan girls, all of whom were clapping and swooning. It was so loud I couldn’t hear the movie and missed one of Gimli’s one liners, caught it the second time around though, brilliant. (Me missing it though could have also been caused by my screamng 'shut up I cant hear the movie'...)

My favorite moment though would have to be Pippin singing to Denethor with the cuts to Faramir. It made me love Pippin more, hate Denethor with an even greater passion, and cry my eyes out for Faramir.

I wasn’t overall disappointed with anything that wasn’t already mentioned… but nothing really stuck out. Only a few ponderables like ‘Woah didn’t the black gates open inwards in TTT?’ or ‘How did Frodo get his cloak back?’

At the midnight showing, the audience applauded a couple of times; the beginning, end, Legolas’ scene (as I said), when Aragorn and Arwen met up again (that I must say was quite realistic, melted my heart.), and before the movie when random dude dressed as a Ring Wraith ran across the front of the theater making the screech and tripped over his cloak. What can I say? We were all anxious, bored and tired... it was quite funny though.

I plan on seeing it at least 2 more times and I cannot wait for the EE… *sigh* how many more days? I'll just have to be content with seeing ROTK as much as I possibly can. Although I'm pretty sure my grade is going to see it as a field trip for Brit Lit. Amazing missing school to see this masterpeice. I cant wait :)

[BaMBbLeS]

BAH! I forgot something (I know with a massive review like that how could I forget anything?) When Gandalf and Pippin rode through the streets of Minas Tirith and the music was playing I just got chills... there were other points I got chills but thats the main part... I can't wait to see it again!

[The Moose]

that just tells me one thing: i have to see it again

[Superchunk]

Only thing I didnt like is when the ghost soldiers showed up and owned everyone. Crappy way to end a great battle scene. Also the pan out of the thousand orks is getting tiresome because you know its all CG. Besides that the movie rocked.

Who cheered when Sam threw the stone at Gollum.

[The Moose]

Superchunk, how else could the army of the dead have been done? all the zoom outs show what is happening in the battle, and where other things are (like MT, Osgiliath)

[zamphir66]

one minor problem i have with the whole lotr trilogy is the length of the films. this is more of a problem with the human anatomy, however. i am unable to sit for three plus hours without feeling a great deal of back pain for the rest of the day. at the same time, i don't want to get up and miss parts. in particular, rotk was so long that the last 30-40 minutes were ruined for me b/c i couldn't feel my lower extremities, i could feel a lot of pain in my back, my head was swimming, and i had to piss so bad that i now need a kidney transplant. i think the theatre editions should have been shorter. long, sprawling epicness is fine at home: u can pause it.
and how to shorten the films w/o losing content? very simple. all of the slow-mo shots of characters faces with the new-agey background music, the ones that make me sleepy anyway, those account for about 10% of each film, and they can go. there are other instances where too much time is taken, in all honesty. like the 'hugging scene' at the very end of rotk. extending what should be a one or two minute scene to six or seven minutes does not deepen the emotional impact, it just bores the audience.

now everyone will probably flame me for all of this complaining, but im just being honest. i love lotr, its one of my favorite novels as well as a top ten all time movie series in my estimation. but that is not to say that its flawless. nothing is perfect. now that the trilogy is complete and i've digested it all, i believe i can say that fellowship was the best of the three, for a couple of reasons. first, the pacing was just so good. the movie flew by, it was a movie about moving, when you think about it. second, it felt more intimate. i personally am not impressed by gigantic elephants and humongous armies of orcs. ok, i am impressed, but special effects are not the stick by which i measure a film, in fact i think there are times when the spectacle can overwhelm the narrative. there are no huge massive battles in fotr, and that's a primary reason its my favorite part of the trilogy(book and movie).

anyway, buy the alien quadrilogy, it's good.

[The Moose]

well, you just have to get used to sitting down for a long time, and not going to the bathroom for a long time. as they say, practice makes perfect. if you try, and try and try, you'll soon be able to do it

[Satan]

The Return Of The King was the greatest film I have ever seen.

[zamphir66]

I was in a serious car accident when i was 19. i have back problems.

[whatdidyousay]

JUst saw it for the 2nd time, and I must say it was better

so moving

[Glordreen]

I will be seeing my 2nd viewing tomorrow, cant wait!!!

[Knerys]

heh seeing it a third time tomorrow...yes I'm a nerd....but I didn'thave to pay. :D

[Rogue]

Same here, well I'm seeing it for the second time. My father wants to see it so I'm dragging him along with me. :)

[Lurtz_2000]

how could you say LOTR is too long???
they should've been loner even!

[Lurtz_2000]

longer*

[ILOVEKATIE]

I'm seeing it for the fourth time tomorrow!

[Izzy]

Originally posted by KenM
Do the eagles show up at the end? And if they do, do they explain why the eagles did not help out more? I think most people will wonder why they convently showed up at just the right momenet, but were not part of the war effort more. A fact that was not explained good in the books. JRRT has the eagles show up as a plot device when its convent for the plot. But its never explained why they did not at least try to go on on an army of eagles, easier then walking.

If they went on an army of eagles, then they'd have to wait for the many people without eagles to come, the eagles aren't as bountiful in number as men. If they had to wait around, then they wouldn't have the man power to take the forces of mordor.

Also, Gandalf was like the only person who could get the help from the eagles. Plus, its not like he could just friggin' e-mail the eagles and ask for help, remember the lighting of the beacons, it took a pretty long time to get the help of Rohan. In addition, Gandalf was busy with the fellowship, then he fell behind fighting the balrog, then he died and came back as Gandalf the white, and he had to get to Lothlorien to get another staff forged (question mark on that last note), and he had to catch up with aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas. After that, he had to get the rohirrim (Erkenbrand was actually in the people Gandalf got in the book), then he went to Isengard, then back to Rohan to figure out how to save Gondor and Middle-earth. After that he went to Gondor to fuurther help figure out what to do. Then he had to hold up the morale of the Gondorian soldiers during the siege of gondor, it wasn't till after that battle that he could find that moth and ask the assistance of the eagles. Then, the eagles had to come flying from the west. So, gandalf was pretty friggin' busy.

Plus, its not like the eagles wait around for people to call for their help. Think before you say these things.

P.S.- On another note, they totally ripped off the flight of the eagles from The Hobbit. Disappointing.

[Izzy]

I skipped school to wait in line for the movie. I waited nine hours and fifteen minutes to get in. I was the first in line with my brother and his friends.

You see. I go to see these movies the first time, to see it, and enjoy it, then the second for to experience it with mi amigos. Then with other friends. Then with my (other) brother.

[Rogue]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3540652/

I thought PJ's reaction to some of the questions were funny. :) "It's too late to fire anyone.."

[sphericthor]

I went to see ROTK last night but all I can say is that I was bored out of my mind, it just dragged on and on. There was nothing there to make me like the movie at all, even the so called amazing battle scenes were crap. Sorry to offend all you fanboys/girls out there but the trilogy just never did anything for me.

Lets not forget the love story etween Sam and Frodo, it was clearly obvious from the end of FOTR. Then the muliple endings in ROTK, I didn't think it was ever going to end, I was sitting waiting for the credits to roll but it just wouldn't stop.

[The Moose]

this is what happens when ya get people who don't read the books, they whine about the endings. can ya really expect each stotryline just to be ended? each storyline needs to be given a sense of closure, and this was only able to be done through ending each storyline. there is no love story between frodo and sam. it's a simple master and servant relationship. sam clearly would do anything to help frodo, and the story calls upon him to do eveything he possibly can to do that. ya just said to me thor, that ya liked TTT better, and HD was better than BOTPF. how can ya see it that way. i can sorta see, as there was a sense of hopelessness at HD, and that wasn't really built up for SoG and BOTPF, but i have one thing to say to you about that . EE.

[ILOVEKATIE]

There is a love story between Frodo and Sam, is called Friendship.
Some people need to grow up and learn that there are two types of love.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
There is a love story between Frodo and Sam, is called Friendship.
Some people need to grow up and learn that there are two types of love.

Well said.

[The Moose]

for the point- i was arguing single mindedly against thor, and didn't see this the other, more mature way. the love i meant was a sexual love

[sphericthor]

Jeez, can't a guy express his own opinions about what he sees in a movie anymore? I know there was nothing between them but it's just a little fun part that I put into my post and it obviously steered everything away from what I had said before that.

[The Moose]

you can post you opinions here and we have to accept them but we're merely imforming you of our own opinions, and you have to accept ours

[ILOVEKATIE]

exactly, by the way Moose, I understood your other post just fine.:)

[The Moose]

oh, that's good to know that people still got my drift when i wasn't too clear

[adt100]

Originally posted by BaMBbLeS

The returning of the prisoners I really thought was a plus.

Yes, that was a great little scene, and a really good way of introducing te decapitated heads!

The other scene I've just remembered about was Gollum re-emerging on Mount Doom, "Clever Hobbits to have climbed so high ...".

Everything about that scene was just so perfect. :applaud:

[Wyn]

I saw ROTK for the second time last night and because I knew what was coming this time I absolutely loved it and really enjoyed it.
The problem I had last time was after waiting a year and reading the book about 3x during that time and seeing spoiler pics etc that didnt end up in the film i was bound to end up dissapointed but this time i thought no i`m just going to enjoy this for what it is after all i still have the EE to look forward to and i was so happy to come out of the cinema this time really happy with the film as a whole the only bit that still gets to me is the end of Denethor but most of the other things i didnt like first time round didnt seem so bad and I love most of the film now as much as i do the first two films :)
I`ll keep going back to the cinema for now and then all i can say is roll on november ;)

[Yag_xp]

this one ROTK was REALLY good.... i liked that part about legolas and that..... elephant???? :D

Averyone just saw that movie and loved... but i think it was too short.... the end is too fast.... :)

[Radiohead]

i saw it a second time last night and hated it.
the only thing that made it worthwhile was doing some of the "funny things to do while watching ROTK" as listed in the thread that Mirko started in this forum. i was with 7 other people and we pretty much just made fun of the movie the whole time.
i realized that ROTK took itself way too seriously and tried to get away with some truly boring and slow scenes. the editing was pretty bad. the homoeroticism is in full swing with hobbits kissing and frolicking in bed.
gandalf is the most worthless wizard of all. the only power he had was his "spotlight of death"
and the eye of sauron? OH NO!!! DONT LET THE EYE SEE YOU!!! HE MIGHT START WINKING OR SOMETHING!!!
then there were the cheesy lines "i am no man!" and "i may not be able to carry it [the ring], but i can carry you"
then of course you have the ending, which seemed to never come. when frodo and co. set off to sail away from middle earth i think ROTK sets a record for longest time with no dialogue in a movie.
the funniest part was the "flying flamer."
people were groaning at all the endings. when it ended people were rejoicing and saying "finally!"
anyways, i don't think it deserves to win film of the year. the trilogy deserves some awards but since the academy only doles out oscars to individual movies and not entrie trilogies i have to say i hope ROTK doesn't win it.

[Necross]

Radiohead is um...well....stupid...

Hehe lets spend more money and waste another three and a half hours in a movie theatre watching a movie we don't like just so we can say stuff at a couple oppurtune times! Wow, Aren't I brilliant!

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Radiohead
i saw it a second time last night and hated it.


Who the hell are you?

What kind of a moron pays money to see it twice and also enters the world of (Oh please flame me because I am such a moron...)

Go knock some other movie somewhere else child....

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by sphericthor
I went to see ROTK last night but all I can say is that I was bored out of my mind, it just dragged on and on. There was nothing there to make me like the movie at all, even the so called amazing battle scenes were crap. Sorry to offend all you fanboys/girls out there but the trilogy just never did anything for me.

Lets not forget the love story etween Sam and Frodo, it was clearly obvious from the end of FOTR. Then the muliple endings in ROTK, I didn't think it was ever going to end, I was sitting waiting for the credits to roll but it just wouldn't stop.

Ok... You stated your stupid opinion now go away!!

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

One thing I dislike about this forum, the close minded-ness people come in here and say the don't like the movie.. their opinions and then people start getting defensive namely Samwise Gamwich... I loved ROTK personally but I could care less if people come in here and say they hated it, thats for them to decide.

[zamphir66]

I hate to say it, but ROTK is not the greatest film ever made. to receive that honor, it would need to be flawless, which it is not. Spartacus, Ben-Hur, Apocalypse Now, 2001, these are nearly flawless, not ROTK. on the other hand, MR. radiohead makes some silly points: the lines you described as silly, well they were straight from the book, so read the book and see if you still think it's silly.
what holds the trilogy back from being perfect? Just a couple of things, really. First, there are times when it gets downright hokey. If i never see Elijah Wood laugh again as long as i live that will be just fine. CRINGE. another hokey effect, the slo-mo shots of faces with new-agey music. example: the scene in FOTR where it's just white light, and Elrond leans down and says: 'Mr. Ander'...oops, i mean 'Frodo.' God that was so goofy.
Now don't get me wrong. These are three of my favorite movies i've ever seen. It just irritates me when people come along and say things like: "ROTK IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER AND ALWAYS WILL BE AND PJ IS GOD ON EARTH AND BLAH BLAH BLAH" I think this kind of blind devotion is ridiculous. It's a great movie, but it's not the meaning of life. just calm down.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
the homoeroticism is in full swing with hobbits kissing and frolicking in bed.

^ this is so immature. im so sick of little punk teenagers talking about frodo and sam being gay. if you cant get over your own insecurities while watching a movie, then there is no way you would like it.

[downflow311]

does anyone notice that all the people that hate ROTK are comparing it with films like Ben-Hur and Lawrence of Arabia. The fact that you guys put ROTK in the same sentence as those movies tells you something right away.

[JBomb87]

But still if you never liked the movies in the first place why are you spending 10.00 bucks on a movie that you know your going to hate, it just mind buggling what people will do.

Then have the audacity to go on a message thread saying you saw it 3x and hated evry second of it knowing full well people are going to diss the crap out you.

I just don't understand people sometimes.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Yup Downflow, never mind changed around to sound gay... kissing? He kissed his forehead, much like Aragorn did to Boromir in FOTR, nobody calls Aragorn gay. Not even gonna bother with that stupid "frolicking in bed" remark..

And why exactly did you pay to see it again when you must of known you hated it the first time? Or was it that you just wanted to ruin it for the other people there?

[zamphir66]

Downflow, I don't hate LOTR. As I said, they're some of my very favorite movies ever. I'm just irritated by the rabidness of the fans. Calling a thing perfect when dispassionate, objective reasoning tells you otherwise, well I think that takes away some of the film's credibility.

[evenstar]

Ok. Look, what you think of the film is a personel opinion. Therefore- If you think it was the most perfect film ever, then for that person it is and you cant say that they are wrong. People shouldnt critisize or object to other peoples opinions and views.

[adt100]

Originally posted by zamphir66
I hate to say it, but ROTK is not the greatest film ever made. to receive that honor, it would need to be flawless, which it is not. Spartacus, Ben-Hur, Apocalypse Now, 2001, these are nearly flawless, not ROTK. on the other hand, MR. radiohead makes some silly points: the lines you described as silly, well they were straight from the book, so read the book and see if you still think it's silly.
what holds the trilogy back from being perfect? Just a couple of things, really. First, there are times when it gets downright hokey. If i never see Elijah Wood laugh again as long as i live that will be just fine. CRINGE. another hokey effect, the slo-mo shots of faces with new-agey music. example: the scene in FOTR where it's just white light, and Elrond leans down and says: 'Mr. Ander'...oops, i mean 'Frodo.' God that was so goofy.
Now don't get me wrong. These are three of my favorite movies i've ever seen. It just irritates me when people come along and say things like: "ROTK IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER AND ALWAYS WILL BE AND PJ IS GOD ON EARTH AND BLAH BLAH BLAH" I think this kind of blind devotion is ridiculous. It's a great movie, but it's not the meaning of life. just calm down.

1. The only problem I have is when people in the forums come seemingly just to make trouble, or be 'controversial' by saying ROTK and LOTR is 'rubbish' etc. Especially when they have very little detailed or coherent arguments to support this comments.

As I've said before, you don't have to like the film, and I'm sure that all of the people on this board are not really concerned whether you think it's 'the greatest film ever' or not. A couple of recent recent posters have however given very little in the way of valid reason, just trashing the film(s) for the sake of it. Furthermore, whether you personally like the film or not, you cannot deny the achievement, or that it is a good film. Saying it's a pile of steaming rubbish and then trying to validate such comments by saying 'its my opinion and so its ok', is just not an acceptable comment IMO.

2. No film is perfect, although I agree that the films you mention (Spartacus, Ben-Hur, Apocalypse Now, 2001) are great films and ones that I enjoy. They are certainly not flawless though.

The idea that films made 20, 30, 40 years ago etc are somehow 'superior' is really irritating to me. Yes, in gerneal Hollywood churns out far more dross these days than in the past, but when a film/series like LOTR comes along, you cannot simply ignore it and look back upon the past with rose tinted glasses. Do you think we would have such negative comments for LOTR and ROTK is these films were somehow transported back in time and released alonside other great epics such as Ben Hur? I think not!

3. If people want to call ROTK the greatest film ever, then that's their right, and clearly many people would agree, or certainly put the film up there with all the other great films of the past. You could say that you are showing 'blind devotion' to films such as Spartacus and Ben Hur, and such therefore 'calm down'. The situation is exactly the same.

[PsYkOoOoO]

well apocalypse now took 3 or 4 years to make..and if you give pj the same amount of time for each film he wouldve produced something of equal or better quality..plus i never liked that film anyway

[zamphir66]

what's the point of a discussion board if all one is permitted to do is sing to the choir? i use to hang out on political boards.
first, i joined boards that mirrored my own disposition. that got boring: "oh good point, yes i agree, you're absolutely right, blah blah blah."

then, i joined boards that were the opposite of my politics. i was very quickly kicked out and banned for disagreeing, i.e. not saying "oh good point..."

then, i returned to my original boards in order to stir the pot. i would disagree for the sake of disagreeing, for the sake of making things interesting, god forbid. well, they accused me of being a spy or just being a stupid brat.

so then, i decided to get out of political boards entirely and try something less acrimonious. so i check out some movie boards, well a movie board, there must be some fascinating-but-friendly back and forth on here, right? nope. it's sing to the choir, or shut up. jolly good.

[evenstar]

Originally posted by zamphir66
I'm just irritated by the rabidness of the fans. Calling a thing perfect when dispassionate, objective reasoning tells you otherwise, well I think that takes away some of the film's credibility.

To the fans if it is perfect it is there view and they are not wrong to think that.

[PsYkOoOoO]

oooo...well said...;)

[Radiohead]

let me make a few points for the mentally challenged who seem to flourish here ...

first of all, i am not a "punk teenager," i am a punk 21-year-old, thank you very much.

secondly, if you swell fellas had bothered to read my review of the movie the first time i saw it then you would see that i actually liked the movie the first time i saw it. so therefore, i had no idea how much this movie would bore me the second time i saw it. (there should be about 6 of you sitting at your keyboard wiping that "ooo, i-just-schooled-some-guy-on-the-messageboard" grin off your face).

thirdly, when someone in the theater (who wasn't a teenager and wasn't decked out in punk garb) made a crack outloud about "gay hobbits" 80% of the theatre roared out in laughter. i guess those people must be idiot punk teenagers too. or all insecure about their sexuality.

the problem we have with this board is that the general population who go to see movies don't come on here. we get the fanboys, the geeks who read the books and compare every line of text in the book to every scene in the movie.

then when someone like myself comes on a DISCUSSion board to DISCUSS what i think about a movie (since this is a movie-based website) and i incite the rage of the fanboys then somehow i automatically launch myself into "idiot" status because i don't go home and have wet dreams about frodo and legolas.

you all need girlfriends. or sex. neither of which i bet more than half of you have ever experienced. if you did you wouldn't give half a damn about some fantasy-based movie centered around people who don't exist (except when you dress up in your parent's basement and play pretend).

Radiohead out.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

And I suppose you made "Return of the King sucked ass." your sig just because it was your opinion ah? Actually, don't bother answering that..

Ah yes, editing your message to insult us furthermore

[Radiohead]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
He kissed his forehead, much like Aragorn did to Boromir in FOTR,

oh, i forgot about that. yeah. aragorn must have mistaken arwyn for a feminine looking man-elf at the end of ROTK when he kissed her (looked more like he was headbutting her, but, whatever).

what's so fun is that i can talk crap about LOTR and actually make some of you people MAD :applaud:

the power i wield ... lovely. much more lovely than the power of evil the ring of power held. spooky.

don't get so wrapped up in your movies, there are better things to worry about (like which comic book subscription you should renew for 2004).

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
let me make a few points for the mentally challenged who seem to flourish here ...

first of all, i am not a "punk teenager," i am a punk 21-year-old, thank you very much.

secondly, if you swell fellas had bothered to read my review of the movie the first time i saw it then you would see that i actually liked the movie the first time i saw it. so therefore, i had no idea how much this movie would bore me the second time i saw it. (there should be about 6 of you sitting at your keyboard wiping that "ooo, i-just-schooled-some-guy-on-the-messageboard" grin off your face).

thirdly, when someone in the theater (who wasn't a teenager and wasn't decked out in punk garb) made a crack outloud about "gay hobbits" 80% of the theatre roared out in laughter. i guess those people must be idiot punk teenagers too. or all insecure about their sexuality.

the problem we have with this board is that the general population who go to see movies don't come on here. we get the fanboys, the geeks who read the books and compare every line of text in the book to every scene in the movie.

then when someone like myself comes on a DISCUSSion board to DISCUSS what i think about a movie (since this is a movie-based website) and i incite the rage of the fanboys then somehow i automatically launch myself into "idiot" status because i don't go home and have wet dreams about frodo and legolas.

you all need girlfriends. or sex. neither of which i bet more than half of you have ever experienced. if you did you wouldn't give half a damn about some fantasy-based movie centered around people who don't exist (except when you dress up in your parent's basement and play pretend).

Radiohead out.

what a newbie-esque response. we need girlfriends? we are no more geeks then you are. i have a girlfriend and have sex all the time, does that mean i cant care about a fantasy movie? you are posting on a movie message board, ya know that right? i have seen you make plently of posts about movies that you really liked and cared about. nobody is in a rage, you just express your opinion about the movie in a very immature way. please leave the LOTR forum and never come back

[Radiohead]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
And I suppose you made "Return of the King sucked ass." your sig just because it was your opinion ah?

exactly!
o·pin·ion( P ) Pronunciation Key(-pnyn)
n.
1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: “The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion” (Elizabeth Drew).
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert (that's me).

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Originally posted by Radiohead
oh, i forgot about that. yeah. aragorn must have mistaken arwyn for a feminine looking man-elf at the end of ROTK when he kissed her (looked more like he was headbutting her, but, whatever).

what's so fun is that i can talk crap about LOTR and actually make some of you people MAD :applaud:

the power i wield ... lovely. much more lovely than the power of evil the ring of power held. spooky.

don't get so wrapped up in your movies, there are better things to worry about (like which comic book subscription you should renew for 2004).

And Sam getting married is different to Aragorns case?

[Radiohead]

Originally posted by downflow311
what a newbie-esque response.

newbie since 2001, BABY!!!
WOOO!

[Radiohead]

ok, i have better things to do, like record and put out another record. you people have a fun day.

[jeti]

Pfftt...
Don't you realize that this movie is getting rave reviews everywhere? So who exactly is being blind here?

And no, you do not have the power to make anyone mad. If anyone is in need of a life, it must be you, Radiohead. I mean... your best idea of fun is attempting to cause a stir on a messageboard?! Good grief.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
oh, i forgot about that. yeah. aragorn must have mistaken arwyn for a feminine looking man-elf at the end of ROTK when he kissed her (looked more like he was headbutting her, but, whatever).

what's so fun is that i can talk crap about LOTR and actually make some of you people MAD :applaud:

the power i wield ... lovely. much more lovely than the power of evil the ring of power held. spooky.

don't get so wrapped up in your movies, there are better things to worry about (like which comic book subscription you should renew for 2004).

oh c'mon now. you claim you are not a geek and have a girlfriend, dont you have anything better to do then come in the LOTR forum and immaturely express your lame ass opinion?

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
ok, i have better things to do, like record and put out another record. you people have a fun day.

oh your so cool. god i wish i was in a local crap garage band so i can record a record on my computer too. :rolleyes:

you are truly pathetic, ya know that? and your only making yourself look worse. keep talking ****.......

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
newbie since 2001, BABY!!!
WOOO!

i said you response was newbie-esque, not a post i would expect from someone who has been here for 2 years. immature and lame.

[sphericthor]

When I first posted in this thread I did so to give my opinion on what I thought of the movie, not to start a huge debate about people who love or hate the movie. When I mentioned Frodo and Sam being gay I did so to lighten things up in here because everyone was taking it all way too serious, I didn't want to start all this **** that's going on.

Like a few people have said, that was my opinion and those who can respect that are good honest people but those who can't accept it are just looking for an arguement to start, there's nothing wrong with saying something about a movie. It's a discussion board and we're here to discuss movies and in this case LOTR, but we are not here to argue about stupid things.

[downflow311]

then tell Radiohead to grow-up. like you guys would seriously think that LOTR fanboys wouldnt take ROTK so seriously?

[Radiohead]

LOCAL!?
we're going on tour buddy, you should come check us out.

and if i can spend 5 minutes of my day on a messageboard and ruin your weekend then i think it's time well spent.

but anyways, to try gain back some self-dignity i don't think the movie was half as awful as i say it was. i just went with a group of people and the person i sat next to talks a lot during movies and he had a lot of funny things to say about the film. i just thought i would share to poke some fun at the movie, i didn't think i was hurting its feelings or anything. i was tired and saw a late screening and the A/C was broken in the theater so it was not a comfortable experience and kept me from fully enjoying the movie.

try not to get so riled up, guys. i'm just here to have fun, i hope you all are too. we can all agree to disagree sometimes.

anyways, everyone have a good christmas and ...

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

[Radiohead]

oh, and i didnt seriously think anything "gay" about frodo kissing sam's head. they were like brothers so i thought it was cool. and the "frolicking" in the bed was just joyous celebration. i can understand and appreciate that. just poking fun at it makes it kind of funny, you know.

[downflow311]

i thought you had a record to record and put out? cmon now get to it!!

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
LOCAL!?
we're going on tour buddy, you should come check us out.

and if i can spend 5 minutes of my day on a messageboard and ruin your weekend then i think it's time well spent.

but anyways, to try gain back some self-dignity i don't think the movie was half as awful as i say it was. i just went with a group of people and the person i sat next to talks a lot during movies and he had a lot of funny things to say about the film. i just thought i would share to poke some fun at the movie, i didn't think i was hurting its feelings or anything. i was tired and saw a late screening and the A/C was broken in the theater so it was not a comfortable experience and kept me from fully enjoying the movie.

try not to get so riled up, guys. i'm just here to have fun, i hope you all are too. we can all agree to disagree sometimes.

anyways, everyone have a good christmas and ...

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

and its annoying people like you and your friends who ruin the movie for other people. and thats the reason why i dont go to late showings, there is always some group of smart-asses that think they are funny and just make themselves look stupid. there was a group that tried that when i went on friday night, and they got kicked out just before Minas Tirith. :applaud:

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Originally posted by Radiohead
LOCAL!?
we're going on tour buddy, you should come check us out.

and if i can spend 5 minutes of my day on a messageboard and ruin your weekend then i think it's time well spent.

but anyways, to try gain back some self-dignity i don't think the movie was half as awful as i say it was. i just went with a group of people and the person i sat next to talks a lot during movies and he had a lot of funny things to say about the film. i just thought i would share to poke some fun at the movie, i didn't think i was hurting its feelings or anything. i was tired and saw a late screening and the A/C was broken in the theater so it was not a comfortable experience and kept me from fully enjoying the movie.

try not to get so riled up, guys. i'm just here to have fun, i hope you all are too. we can all agree to disagree sometimes.

anyways, everyone have a good christmas and ...

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Woah! Was that Radiohead!?!?! ;)

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Off this squabbling now, did anyone see the trolls that had been taught to play the drums!

[downflow311]

yeah i though that scene was awesome. and honestly i didnt expect to see it either.

[downflow311]

did you notice the orc that made that really cool sound in the battle at osgiliath?

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Yeah, when he walked past the screen, paused and sort of looked around sniffing the air somewhat, that was cool.

I also seemed to really like the chants the Haradrim made as they approached on the Mumakil, and their war-horn.

[scifi guy]

i have a quick question. Did Legolas use his two short swords at all in return of the king? If he did i must have missed it.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

As far as I remember, he only them to cut the rope that was fastening the War Tower on the Mumakil he brought down

[scifi guy]

ok cool thanks SOS.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
Yeah, when he walked past the screen, paused and sort of looked around sniffing the air somewhat, that was cool.

I also seemed to really like the chants the Haradrim made as they approached on the Mumakil, and their war-horn.

i completely agree. that crazy mumakil captain with his war horn, that Eomer impales with a spear. freaking awesome!

[R.O.U.S.]

Anyone else think it was weird that they had smeagol in hobbit form talk the same way he did as when he was gollum in the flashback. I think they should of had him talk in a normal voice. People would understand that his voice would change over those years. It just looked ridiculous to have him talking like that before he changed.

[DolAmroth]

Yeah also how fast they both got Suduced by the ring. I mean Frodo and Sam were together for years and Sam never tried to take it from Frodo. But Smeagol took it from Deagol like 5 seconds after he took it.

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by downflow311
i completely agree. that crazy mumakil captain with his war horn, that Eomer impales with a spear. freaking awesome!

That sure was!!
IMHO Eomer did more damage throwing that spear than Legolas did...

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Radiohead
let me make a few points for the mentally challenged who seem to flourish here ...

first of all, i am not a "punk teenager," i am a punk 21-year-old, thank you very much.

secondly, if you swell fellas had bothered to read my review of the movie the first time i saw it then you would see that i actually liked the movie the first time i saw it. so therefore, i had no idea how much this movie would bore me the second time i saw it. (there should be about 6 of you sitting at your keyboard wiping that "ooo, i-just-schooled-some-guy-on-the-messageboard" grin off your face).

thirdly, when someone in the theater (who wasn't a teenager and wasn't decked out in punk garb) made a crack outloud about "gay hobbits" 80% of the theatre roared out in laughter. i guess those people must be idiot punk teenagers too. or all insecure about their sexuality.

the problem we have with this board is that the general population who go to see movies don't come on here. we get the fanboys, the geeks who read the books and compare every line of text in the book to every scene in the movie.

then when someone like myself comes on a DISCUSSion board to DISCUSS what i think about a movie (since this is a movie-based website) and i incite the rage of the fanboys then somehow i automatically launch myself into "idiot" status because i don't go home and have wet dreams about frodo and legolas.

you all need girlfriends. or sex. neither of which i bet more than half of you have ever experienced. if you did you wouldn't give half a damn about some fantasy-based movie centered around people who don't exist (except when you dress up in your parent's basement and play pretend).

Radiohead out.

Someone ban this 21 year old immature *******...

[Samwise Gamwich]

The work I used was a$$hole

[Samwise Gamwich]

My daughters are older than he is and have far better judgement

[Necross]

Radioheads an ass, pay it no attention. Yes it, I don't think we should referr to it as human because it is obviously made of scum and bile.

[Necross]

I thought the whole thing with Legolas against the Mumakil was awesome. I thought it might have been a litte corny but nope, it was awesome. I loved how he kept counting, 93, 94, lol

[Necross]

Originally posted by downflow311
and its annoying people like you and your friends who ruin the movie for other people. and thats the reason why i dont go to late showings, there is always some group of smart-asses that think they are funny and just make themselves look stupid. there was a group that tried that when i went on friday night, and they got kicked out just before Minas Tirith. :applaud:

I completely agree, I unfortunately had to go to an 11:15 showing and there was that group of *******s, they weren't making fun of the movie but they were having conversations based on completely different topics without whispering for like the whole movie! Why do people pay money to see a movie and then not watch it?

[Rogue]

All of you, please knock it off. There's no use squabbling over it. Just let it go.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Necross
I completely agree, I unfortunately had to go to an 11:15 showing and there was that group of *******s, they weren't making fun of the movie but they were having conversations based on completely different topics without whispering for like the whole movie! Why do people pay money to see a movie and then not watch it?

it is weird, isnt it? i went to trilogy tuesday and a showing wednesday night, and had no problems. everybody was well-behaved and silent. then i go to a late show last night and there were all kinds of punk-teenagers there making smart-ass comments. they were all asked to leave though, thank god!

[Necross]

Yeah I didn't get to see it until last night. I need to see it again!!!!! But anyway, i wish I had gone to the showing before it, I was there before it got out and when it ended we heard the whole theatre break out in applause. I wanted to be at a showing like that...oh well...I was at a TT one like that but still! :(

[Glordreen]

Just got back from my second viewing......gets better every time!!!!!

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Did anyone feel somewhat sorry for Damrod when Gothmog just grabbed the spear of the Orc in Osgiliath and just thrust it down into Damrod.. goddamn Gothmog is one nasty piece of work

[Rogue]

Well, it wasn't the most pleasant moment, that's for sure. PJ knows how to make you feel for the characters on screen.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

I know, he looked so helpless on the floor gasping for breath.. initially he was hit in the chest with an Orc Mace wasnt he :|

[Brock Landers]

Does anyone have the link to the lyrics of Pippin's song in ROTK? The one Pippin sings when Faramir charges Osgiliath?

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Even if it is a little late let me insert my opinion post arguement.

Holy ****.

Calm the **** down people. By getting angry at someone for calling you a fanboy you are making yourself a fanboy. It's not a big deal. He said bad things about the movie. Who cares? It wasn't flawless and yes 3 people huging and prancing on a bed might seem a tad gay to some people (SHOCKING!).

Get over it. I liked the movie I thought it was really good. Greatest movie ever? No PJ left out some little things I think were very important but oh well it's JUST A MOVIE.

[adt100]

But if you hadn't read the book would you actually know (or for that matter care) about the cuts?

[Tim37ninjageniu]

No but it would have made the movie better.

[Balrog of Moria]

My only gripes are the shortness of the siege of Osgiliath, and lack of the mouth of sauron...Other than that I loved it

Cheers to PJ...His work is complete...and he's done an amazing job

[Necross]

This was just a curiousity. But one scene I couldn't get out of my head was the one where Eowyn asked Pippin to take control of the horse and he proceeded to to ride under the Mumakil and Eowyn cuts at its leggs with two swords. I loved every scene in the movie completely, but for the longest time I couldn't stop thinking about it, I just didn't expect it at all! Was anyone else amazed, same with Eomer throwing the spear at the Harad on the Mumakil, PJ and company so knew what they were doing.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Honestly for the first 20 minutes i was very unimpressed. I disliked the opening scene. The biggest problem with the entie movie was this scene:

When Sam things frodo is dead he just hides. WTF? There should have been sad music while the emotional struggle of sam leaving frodo for dead ensues. Sam has to realize that he must go on without frodo. This is the most powerful scene in the whole damn series and they runined it! Sam had to cry and there should have been a huge big deal about him taking the ring. But nothing happened. That pissed me off.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Also when frodo is about to destroy the ring Gandalf was supposed to say "stand for now is the hour of doom!" or some cool **** like that and the whole battle stops while everyone watches! that line is essential and it was left out. My two favorite parts of the books were left out. Well that and frodo's nudity but oh well.

[PsYkOoOoO]

dont be too pissed about radiohead ppl..we need people like him to compare ourselves with...so we'll know how matured and superior we are..

[UnicornBlood3]

I'm a little late. I saw this movie Thursday and Wow was I impressed! I did miss all the scences that I knew were on the EE but I know that I will have it to look forward too! I did think the end was a little broken when the battle of the Black Gates is going on but I think it worked for a TE version either way.

[DolAmroth]

I saw ROTK again today for the Fourth Time. Man is it a freaken good moive.

[Cloud Buster]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
There is a love story between Frodo and Sam, is called Friendship.
Some people need to grow up and learn that there are two types of love.

I know I'm a bit behind here, and I don't read too often, and I post even less, but I just had to reply to this.

THANK YOU ILOVEKATIE....It's good to see that not everyone has to turn everything into something sexual these days.

The friendships between the Hobbits, especially Sam and Frodo is very moving. It brought me to tears in the book, absolute full on tears over the beauty of it. If everyone, especially guys in this world, were able to feel like they could love each other without being afraid someone will call them "gay", this world would be a MUCH better place.

Having fought closely with his comrades in the trenches, Tolkien understood this in a way most in our modern cultures don't. And with the advent of the internet, remote relationships, and battles fought electronically...it's not likely that we'll recover it anytime soon.

[Cloud Buster]

So I just got home from seeing it for the second time, I will see it at least once more because I have to take my sister to see it this week. After the Smeagol / Deagol scene, I must admit I find the movie slow, but I noticed that it begins a very constant build up that does not stop until the amazing climax at Orodurin.

I looked real close at the "mystery gondorian", and he is indeed wearing the logo of the White Tree, NOT the Silver Swan. Furthermore he is wearing a cape which would indicate he is a member of the Citadel Guard, so I have even more reason to believe he is Beregond. WHOOHOO for me, because Beregond was my favorite character that was only in ROTK. In fact, he's up there on my favorite characters in the series.

I realized, however, that I'm a little disappointed with the Grey Havens for the sheer lack of dialogue. I cried very hard during the last few pages of the book, but the movie just didn't do it for me, and I think it's because some of the best lines aren't there. I think I see where PJ is going in that scene, he wanted to tell the story with emotions, body language, without words. I think the lack of dialogue is a deliberate choice. I don't disagree, I'm just not convinced it was the strongest choice.

Also, I REALLY miss the fact that Shadowfax is not at the havens. :(

Those things are trivial in my mind compared to the overall success of the film in portraying the story of the book. In some parts I think PJ made VAST improvements on Tolkien's work, such as the "remember the Shire" and "Rosie Cotton" lines at The End of All Things.

I have a friend who is very homophobic and out of touch with his emotions, and every time ANYTHING emotional happened at ALL, he turned away and started saying "Dude, that is so gay. Dude I can't believe how gay that is. Do they have to cry? Dude crying is gay. I'm glad I'm not gay." He was a few seats down so I generally paid him no mind, but during Mount Doom when Sam carries Frodo and he started doing it again, I finally told him to shutup and stick his repressed emotions up his you know what.

[Izzy]

Originally posted by downflow311
this is so immature. im so sick of little punk teenagers talking about frodo and sam being gay

I'm a teenager. And i'm here to say, Sam was gay, at the beginning of FOTR, and the end of ROTK, but not in between. He was happy gay :)

Don't judge me, at least i'm not saying how completely homoerotic and stupid ROTK was (for the record it wasn't), i'm just loosening the tension between the people with opposite opionions of the movie.

But I don't need your commentary on my joke, i know it sucked. It was one of those jokes that is supposed to be funny because it's intentionally not funny. It's complicated.

[Cloud Buster]

Sorry guys, I don't mean to brag, but I just HAVE to say this...

I have the best girlfriend in the whole world. She has been with me to see ROTK twice now and plans to go a third time. She really got into the movie when we were watching it, and the first time we saw it even yelled (in all sincerity) "GO FRODO!" when Frodo was running towards the Crack of Doom. She held my hand as she watched me go nuts over my favorite scenes from the book, and I squeezed it tightly the first time I saw Minas Tirith, particularly as Gandalf and Pippin arrived at the Citadel on the seventh level. She's even learned the lyrics to "Into the West" and is practicing to sing it even more beautifully than she does already. And yes, during Shelob's lair, she had to put her head against my shoulder in terror. Even the second time. She cheered when Sam fought Shelob, when Pippin saved Faramir, and when Theoden called the Rohirrim to charge the Pellennor. She laughed when Gandalf told Pippin to be quiet, or when Gimi was intimidated by Legolas, or when Pippin was...well being Pippin. She cried...like me she cried when Frodo cast Sam aside, cried at the End of All Things, and cried when she saw the Eagles coming for Frodo and Sam. And through it all, she held my hand.

In short, I have the very best girlfriend in the whole world, especially for a total geek like me. :)

[Lurtz_2000]

does it get boring the forth time?

[Izzy]

It's annoying when people get so obsessive over a person being over obsessive over a movie they don't like. Then again, maybe i'm being over obsessive about those other obessive people, obsessing over the obsessive people obsessing over the movie they're obsessing about. Yep i'm obsessing. But don't obsess over this obsession, break the chain reaction! tell the people!

[Lurtz_2000]

what the hell was that??!

[Izzy]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
Did anyone feel somewhat sorry for Damrod when Gothmog just grabbed the spear of the Orc in Osgiliath and just thrust it down into Damrod.. goddamn Gothmog is one nasty piece of work

Gothmog? According to, "The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Middle Earth," Gothmog was the Balrog general in some battle of The Silmarillion.

[Izzy]

Originally posted by Lurtz_2000
what the hell was that??!

Why'd you have to do that? You just continued the chain reaction! think before you say these things. Plus its sort of a mind boggler.

[Lurtz_2000]

he's ugly

[Izzy]

Originally posted by Necross
This was just a curiousity. But one scene I couldn't get out of my head was the one where Eowyn asked Pippin to take control of the horse and he proceeded to to ride under the Mumakil and Eowyn cuts at its leggs with two swords. I loved every scene in the movie completely, but for the longest time I couldn't stop thinking about it, I just didn't expect it at all! Was anyone else amazed, same with Eomer throwing the spear at the Harad on the Mumakil, PJ and company so knew what they were doing.

Don't waste space in this thread with self-explanatory questions.

An ******* way of saying, "Yes."

[Izzy]

Originally posted by Lurtz_2000
he's ugly

Who's ugly? come on i need to know this. I want to tell people.

[Izzy]

I'm just irritated by the rabidness of the fans. Calling a thing perfect when dispassionate, objective reasoning tells you otherwise, well I think that takes away some of the film's credibility.

To the fans if it is perfect it is there view and they are not wrong to think that.

Kids, kids, you're both right.

[Ethan Hunt]

I think ROTK was one of the best films ive ever saw and it finished really well. WELL DONE PETER JACKSON HIP HIP!

[Ryvyan]

The Steward of Gondor featuring Billy Boyd
Home is behind; the world ahead
And there are many paths to tread

Through shadow, to the edge of night
Until the stars are all alight

Mist and shadow; cloud and shade
Hope shall fail; all shall... fade




'RotK' is such a sad movie in all sense -- the emotions and the fact that there would be no more to look forward to next year. I watched it at the marathon on Wednesday and less than 15 hours after watching it, I watched it again on Thursday morning.

Cried from the start till the credits roll; never realized I had it in me... Gah. I usually don't even cry a bit at movies...


Anyway, the Sam-Frodo-is-gay thing is so passe. The friendship that exists is what kept Frodo going...

[JackBauer]

what is so great about this movie? can somebody tell me?
i liked the first one, but ROTK was "hmm"....i don't know. somehow it was realy great, a few good moments, the soundtrack was awesome. but the CGI was crap, and its a overrated movie IMO. nice tale, but revolutions was better....hate me now :D

seriously, i thought it's just average and if you realy want to know what a great epic and a fantastic tale is, go and get Final Fantasy VII or VIII...after 40h you'll know! (its a game, but kicks LOTR's ass) IMO

[Ryvyan]

I went to watch the movie precisely for the emotions that run deep within the fabulous tale of good versus evil, and where nature would rebel against man eventually-thingy. I want to be emerged in a 'real world', not one whereby you can simply tell they're just CGI effects.

In terms of overrated movies and the overall performance (not at boxoffices), RELOADED and REVOLUTIONS win hands-down in terms of it. Or rather the lack of performance.

Sorry

[JackBauer]

hm, no reason to be sorry. i think its just overrated.
emotions, yeah the first movie had it but ROTK was too cheesy IMO! i like complex stories, fantasy tales and deep emotions, but i thought ROTK was too short!! like i missed something, maybe i fell asleep and i didn't knew :D

FOTR was great, the nazgul scared the **** out of me when i first saw them. TTT was pretty good. the only good thing about ROTK was the great battle and the soundtrack.

[adt100]

The mention of Final Fanatasy is of great detriment to your arguments against ROTK.

[Ryvyan]

I listened to the soundtrack before watching ROTK and was thinking it doesn't touch the likes of TTT and FOTR. Watching the movie changed all that... God, the music...

The emotions are an important part of the films IMO

[JackBauer]

Originally posted by adt100
The mention of Final Fanatasy is of great detriment to your arguments against ROTK.

:lol:

yeah, sure.

i just tried to say, if you realy think LOTR is the greatest saga, story, book or movie of all times...then you have no idea and you should check the FF series. LOTR is nothing compared to eastern tales imo

[adt100]

I am well aware of the Final Fantasy series, and it's an over-rated series of games that tries/pretends to include 'complex stories, fantasy tales and deep emotions' as you put it, but in reality does very little in this regard. It's a video game for goodness sake!

It's not a great 'tale' at all.

[Necross]

I absolutely love Final Fantasy games, they are my favorite. But in all honestly they do not come anywhere near the greatness of the LOTR trilogy.

[Yag_xp]

yep. FF is nothing against Lord.... in movies, of course...

in games.... is the opposite :D

[slinger]

The showing I went to was an extra one but for some reason they screwed up. Radio music was still playing while it started seven minutes early! So I see the two Hobbits fishing and the screen was screwed up to the faces were very wide. Then it stops lights come on and the music is still playing. Then when the movie starts again it shows them with the ring. The picture was they way it was supposed to be. But something was wrong with the sound. Shore's score was ruined throughout the entire movie. Well the majority of the music just didn't sound right.

However, I still enjoyed film. Clearly the best film of the year and all time. What's more to say. Fellowship was amazing, Two Towers was a disapointment and Return was a triumph.

[JBomb87]

How did Final Fantasy get in this thread. lolol

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by slinger
The showing I went to was an extra one but for some reason they screwed up. Radio music was still playing while it started seven minutes early! So I see the two Hobbits fishing and the screen was screwed up to the faces were very wide. Then it stops lights come on and the music is still playing. Then when the movie starts again it shows them with the ring. The picture was they way it was supposed to be. But something was wrong with the sound. Shore's score was ruined throughout the entire movie. Well the majority of the music just didn't sound right.

However, I still enjoyed film. Clearly the best film of the year and all time. What's more to say. Fellowship was amazing, Two Towers was a disapointment and Return was a triumph.

bad luck man...

[belfast-biker]

Superb film, but seeing it a second time confirmed that the ending goes on forever.....

[PsYkOoOoO]

why wld anybody say such a thing????????????the endings were perfect!!

[KayTang999]

I saw it and I just have to say that I love Faramir!!! They need to do a spin off on Faramir and Eomer.

I cried my eyes out the part where Denethor was telling him that he wish it was him who died, not Boromir. With the Pippin sining, I totally lost it.

[Ahreron]

Originally posted by JackBauer
hm, no reason to be sorry. i think its just overrated.
emotions, yeah the first movie had it but ROTK was too cheesy IMO! i like complex stories, fantasy tales and deep emotions, but i thought ROTK was too short!! like i missed something, maybe i fell asleep and i didn't knew :D

FOTR was great, the nazgul scared the **** out of me when i first saw them. TTT was pretty good. the only good thing about ROTK was the great battle and the soundtrack.

nazgul didn't do a lot to me in fellowship, only when they were chasing arwen and frodo

loved them in TTT and ROTK but the screaming was WAYYY to loud!!!!

[evenstar]

I think alot of people think the endings go on for so long because after so much action the slowing of pace seems so slow, yet the conclusion has to be known- Gray havens couldnt be rushed, and imo was perfect.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Did anyone else think that the music when Gollum got the ring was perfect for that scene of him with the ring, and even better when Frodo was approaching him and the chanting kicked in.

[Boiiinng]

Originally posted by slinger
The showing I went to was an extra one but for some reason they screwed up. Radio music was still playing while it started seven minutes early!

I heard the beginning of the music right before a trailer came on and thought: crap, here comes the bane of my existence. But, luckily they fixed it. Some girl came in and said that we would be starting 10 minutes late cuz the guy that was supposed to run the reel came to work late, but it seemed to start on time. No babies crying, no one kicked my seat, a great viewing, not always a sure thing here. Today is a good day to see people die, hah.

Well, I liked this one better than Two Towers but it is still not as good as Fellowship. I don't mean story or characters or acting or dialogue. It's all one story. I mean editing, music, and cinematography, things that make a good movie a great film. I thought a lot of the scenes in the first half were cut too hasty, much of the scenes did not flow together. It felt like a cut, it shouldn't. I thought very highly of the dialogue, right up to par with Fellowship. The music did not complement the visuals as well as it should have, like it did in Two Towers. I think it blended well, but perhaps too well. For example, when Aragorn jumps out of the ship, there should have been some hightening of music, there was none. It was underemphasized. However, when the dead appear on the docks after Aragorn starts his charge, THAT is emphasis, more on camera than music, however. The battle of the pellenor could not have been shot any better. Flawless, simple as that. I was happy to see catapaults at Minas Tirith. I don't recall reading about the defenses of the city in the book.

Overall, I loved it, I'm not ashamed to say that I was putting up quite a battle with my tears at the end of all things. It was one heck of a ride. A lot of emotion was poured into this trilogy and it was translated through the actors. I, for one, am now really hyped for the EE. It will hopefully fill those gaps in the cuts at the beginning and bring this film up to where it should be.

The Eagles are coming!!! (Favorite Scene)

One of my dislikes: why didn't Aragorn hold his sword up at the docks like he did in Fellowship? That scene wasn't good until the dead appeared.

[Rocksolidus]

Originally posted by Boiiinng


Overall, I loved it, I'm not ashamed to say that I was putting up quite a battle with my tears at the end of all things. It was one heck of a ride. A lot of emotion was poured into this trilogy and it was translated through the actors.

The Eagles are coming!!! (Favorite Scene)


AAAHHHH, :applaud: big enough to admitt. I got your back, ::Wipes away tears still lingering from last wednesday night::

[Boiiinng]

Originally posted by Rocksolidus
AAAHHHH, :applaud: big enough to admitt. I got your back, ::Wipes away tears still lingering from last wednesday night::

Seriously, I'll probably cry every time I see it.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Originally posted by Boiiinng
IOverall, I loved it, I'm not ashamed to say that I was putting up quite a battle with my tears at the end of all things. It was one heck of a ride. A lot of emotion was poured into this trilogy and it was translated through the actors. I, for one, am now really hyped for the EE. It will hopefully fill those gaps in the cuts at the beginning and bring this film up to where it should be.


Couldnt have said it better

[JackBauer]

Originally posted by adt100
I am well aware of the Final Fantasy series, and it's an over-rated series of games that tries/pretends to include 'complex stories, fantasy tales and deep emotions' as you put it, but in reality does very little in this regard. It's a video game for goodness sake!

It's not a great 'tale' at all.

dude, i don't know what YOU are talking about. but I am not talking about the FF movie, or the new s***...FF is ruined since FFXI.

the best part was FF VII...and FF VIII was an awesome game. YES, it is a video game, but the story and the "deep emotions" are still untouchable.LOTR was boring. but you're all fanboys, and i don't expect you to like FF more then LOTR.

by the way...i'm glad there's no sequal :D

[Boiiinng]

Just another thing I thought of: the fade to black at Mt Doom then open to Frodo and Sam again was kind of weird, I guess they wanted you to think it was over for them, and then the Eagles, the Eagles!! I don't know. Weird irony move.

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

I liked that, it made you beleive that they had died on that rock.. then it faded back out to show their bodies only to see the eagles come to rescue them and Frodo looking barely alive in the eagles claws