Battle Threads...enough!!!

[sniktawt]

I'm probably the last one to complain about Battle Threads but...

"ENOUGH!!!"

All these new People coming on the boards seem like they have to make a New Battle every two seconds.
Just Today, We had 5 new ones start up, Two original, the other 3 rip-offs.

I'm sorry to ***** but I think we have enough don't ya think ?

Of course me saying this is a huge contridiction but it is getting a bit ridiculous isn't it ?

I'm dropping a few battles very soon so that will cut down on a few.
But that won't stop the other gazillion that will start up.

It's not a matter of life and death to have a battle thread is it ?

[Rogue]

AMEN, snik!!! :)

[faceoffmask.com]

You guys say if you dont like it dont vote. So use the same rule for yourselves. Who cares if there are 1000 battles! If you don't like battles stay out of the thread. This is a movie board. Not your board. What is the problem with people finding out what other people think. All we are trying to to is have fun! Amen!

[sniktawt]

The problem is all the new battles are just rip offs of existing battles wuith a few original ones popping up.

That's the problem.

[sniktawt]

BTW, This thread is STICKY!!!!

WOO HOO!!!!!!

What an honour.lol.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by faceoffmask.com
You guys say if you dont like it dont vote. So use the same rule for yourselves. Who cares if there are 1000 battles! If you don't like battles stay out of the thread. This is a movie board. Not your board. What is the problem with people finding out what other people think. All we are trying to to is have fun! Amen!

That's what regular discussion threads are for. When you have a battle for every possible thing, it gets old. It's not fun once the ideas have been done to death and you see the same old thing over and over and over and over again.

[faceoffmask.com]

The 2 battles I started are original. Movie poster battles and dvd cover battles. So whats the problem. Also if someone starts a battle thats already been done SO WHAT! If the thread isn't running anymore then don't complain. Or don't bother with the thread. After I started the movie poster battle thread you said this snik.

''I was going to do this in the Horror Battle.

Guess what ???

I still am.''


Then a couple of hours later you start complaning about to many battles. LOL

[sniktawt]

Your threads are fine, It's the other Battle of the action guys and **** like that!!!

Dude you are taking it the wrong way.

It's not you that is under attack.
It's the rip off threads.

[faceoffmask.com]

Rogue you said this in a Battle

''You know, it's funny to me..everyone gripes about battle threads but ya'll still post here anyway. Am I the only one that sees the contradiction here?''

You guys and girls crack me up.

[sniktawt]

Plus my horror battle is already running, I'm including battles in it not starting a new one!!!

[sniktawt]

Face off read my post above yours...

It's not u under attack.

It;s the rip off threads!!!!

Can you read man!!!!

Jeesh

[JBond]

This thread wasn't pointed at anyone in specific, there are two problems the way I see it.

1. Too many similar battle threads.

2. Too many battle threads that are on pathetic subjects cause everything else has been done.

[faceoffmask.com]

I wasn't taking it the wrong way Snik. Look at what I wrote to you at the Dvd cover Battle thread. I didn't care if you were going to do a horror movie poster thread. I backed you up. Saying I'll vote on your thread. Then you start this. Thats why I'm taking it this way. Because I'm new I can't start battles? I've been here 3 months not that new. But even if I was that shouldn't matter. Can we please stop arguing. We are here for the same reason movies. We all love movies. So lets keep it that way. I don't want to come to this board and say Snik started that battle I'm not even going to go into that thread. No I want to come to this board and say let me see the new Battle today. If I don't want to see a battle I'll skip right over it.

[sniktawt]

Jibbs has the point of the thread I hope others can see it that way as well.

Because I'm not against Battles, I love them, But when someone does the Battle Of The Amish Movie Characters because everything else is done then it's getting out of hand.LOL.

[redman]

Thank god! I thought i was the only one. If it was up to me i'd have all battle threads banned. They're the biggest waste.

[sphericthor]

I'm here to voice my opinion on the way the battle threads are getting out of hand, not to complain or to defend anyone.

There is no need for a new battle thread to pop up every day just because someone likes the idea of having their own. I believe that there should be a limit to the amount of battles around in each forum.

But also they should only be in the forums that have a specific genre to deal with. e.g. Comics, Celebs, Animation and Horror. These 4 forums should have a limit of up to 3 battles, but I only say this because there are a few long running threads that are popular among everyone, that are being run by Sniktawt and one by myself (only after the thread starter gave it up).

Those who start new battles for everything they can find are just wasting time, because there is no need for them to be there. They are only there because of the long running battles and their success, but that doesn't mean that we need another hundred more threads popping up.

Once again this is my own opinion on the way things are and not an attack on anyone.

[JBond]

Also...

In many cases, the argument "If people don't want to post, they don't have to" is very true...but in cases where there are several battle threads where responses are one word answers...well that's spam, and it's not allowed.

[HeadHunter]

right :p

[JBond]

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11027

[faceoffmask.com]

OK can I have all of your opinions on my 2 thread battles. My first battle is Movie poster battle. The 2nd one is Dvd cover battle. now I asked people I work that aren't really into movies what they thought about these. They said ya those sound good. So I thought if these guys like I know they will. So give me your opinion please.

[JBond]

Originally posted by HeadHunter
right :p

banned ;)

[faceoffmask.com]

why should they be banned. If you don't like them don't go into them. Most people that love movies love battles. I love having battles at work with people. We had a battle about old movies vs new movies. It was fun! It's something you can't get rid of.

[JBond]

No no, I meant I was banning Headhunter ;)

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by JBond
banned ;)
I bloody hope not :)

Originally posted by JBond
No no, I meant I was banning Headhunter ;)
:p time to go out in a FLAME of glorey :D

but anyway...i do think the amount of useless battles are getting out of hand..personally i do think that half the time people make a battle just so they can say that they made a thread and they think it is a quick way for a large post count.

[faceoffmask.com]

Jbond What do you think about my battles?

[Rogue]

I don't mind them, as long as they're original. Hell, I had played a huge part in the biggest section of the WWE Battle Thread. The big different that stands out in my mind with that thread is that we actually had discussions. The majority of the time it just wasn't one word answers (read: spam). It was original and fun. A lot of the battles now are derivations of battles that have already been done or just blantant ripoffs. Granted, there are a few that original and for those running them, I tip my hat to you. To the rest, I'm irked about it.

If you're going to do it, at least make it original and put some effort into like snik or a few others I know of. Instead of posting a few words, toss some creativity in. Get pics that work, use different font sizes- something, ANYTHING to make it original. If you're in you should be in completely and not half-ass it.

Just my two cents.

[faceoffmask.com]

Im a big movie poster and Dvd collector. As many of you are. I think they are going to be great battles. I was going through my posters to see which ones looked good. Same thing with dvds every now and then I go through all of them. I open them up and look at the booklets. I look to see which covers I like. Then I thought this would be great battles.

[JBond]

You can keep yours, don't make anymore and never have more than one going at the same time afterwards.

And like Rogue said, put some creativity into them if you're going to make them.

[faceoffmask.com]

Great I will. Look at this reply I got on the movie poster battle.
said by Dogbert
''Even Robocop can't beat Arnie on a Harley with a sawed off shot gun...''

Man that was an awesome reply. That made me laugh. So please lets not argue. If every1 leaves a reply on y they picked the poster than great! I would love to hear everyones opinion on why they picked the poster.

[cg124]

i agree don't make a battle thread just becasue you want one, make one thats original and not a rip off

[Tenafly Viper]

Sweet mother of god.... NOTHING IS F-CKING ORIGINAL PEOPLE!

I say battle away, battle till your fingers bleed, battle until there is nothing to battle over then battle them all again and again and again.... of course NEW people are going to cover the ground that those with 30,00000000 posts have already talked and argued and yes even BATTLED about. Instead of censoring others why don't you all just accept them, ignore them if you must. Who are you people to chastise or judge the validity of anyone else’s posts especially when EVERYONE here SPAMS with posts filled with emotes and single word answers, and I'm not talking about battle threads. Originality HA! This is the Internet everything has been done and done again. Stop being so elitist and exercise a little tolerance.

[Tony Montana]

I would like to see a "Battle of whale poems"!!

[IamMrDJ]

IMO there are only a few original battles out there. I think Rogue was right when she said that if you are going to start a battle be original and have fun with it. cg124 and I found this battle the other night, who is hotter? an easy battle (http://66.118.152.6/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21773 )

It had no pictures at all and had no guidelines. I have run one battle adn that was the battle of the NFL QB's and that was after Snik asked me to take over for him. Well I gave up on it after everyone dropped out of voting for it.

Just a little note to people interested in wanting to start a battle. THis has been said before and I will say it again. Search through the old threads and look to see if your battle has already been done. Most likely it has been. Also I agree with Rogue plan out your battles. I also was a part of the WWE Tag Team battle and we had to search for enough tag teams for the battle. MAke sure that you won't have any extra people left in the later rounds of your battle. Snik made a great comment in the BAttle of All-Time Grossing Films.

Tournaments work in divedends of 8.
Battles with 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 will work. Most of the current battles use 32 characters or movies, etc.

Ok that is all I have to say on this subject for now. Thanks.

[Tenafly Viper]

I agree with you IamMrDJ...... and I'd like to add onto a point you brought up in your post.

First in my opinion this whole situation could have been handled better. A little reverse psychology should’ve been employed here. The more you complain about things like this the more of an ISSUE it becomes. People shouldn't participate in what they feel are redundant battle threads, but at the same time just let it go, don't troll in them, most of the threads don't catch on and quickly disappear, like those you talked about. Then the mods are free to delete them as they see fit, in the case of a particular member becoming a bit overzealous in their creation of Battle threads, then they should be talked to by a MOD in a NON-public forum, which helps that person listen without feeling attacked, which is absolutely never the case when anyone feels that they’re being ganged up on, kind of like faceoffmask did. Even if it wasn't meant that way.

The fact will always remain that Battles once finished are OVER they can’t be participated in after the fact. So if a number of new people are enjoying themselves and they aren’t trolling or hurting anyone then why not just let them have their fun, isn’t that why we’re here.

One more thing if anyone is insulted or feels personally challenged by my last two posts. Then I'm truly sorry, but it only goes to prove my point that somethings shouldn't be discussed publicly and that even if you have the best of intentions your point can easily be misinterpreted.

[Spike2002]

Unless someone comes up with an original and totally new idea, I'm forced to agree with snik.....ENOUGH WITH THESE CHEAP BATTLE THREADS!!!!:mad:

Oh and faceoffmask I think your DVD cover and movie poster battle threads are pretty bad a$$!!!:applaud:

[dr_evil]

i also agree that there are to many battle threads
most of them are just different versions ones that are already created

[ThE MaStEr]

Ok, i started the Battle of the Alltime grossing films. And it is my only one. If you guys dont think it is a good idea then dont vote and close it cause i dont care. All i want is for people to have fun. And my battle is planned out, 48 teams to start then down to 24 then to 12 then to 6 then to the final 3. So thats how i will do it. So give me your opinions.

[GrandMaster]

I think you all complain too much!
These forums are not owned by the few regulars who are here everyday looking for a poor newbie who has made a mistake or who's threads have already been done! I'm so sick and tired of some dick (not mentioning any names) who writes things like
"This has been done before" or "this should be banned".
I say go to hell! Every one is entitled to make a thread!

[sniktawt]

Yes they are entitled to make thread, but make it "ORIGINAL!!!!"
You seem to have missed the point of the thread.

[Warren]

Originally posted by Tony Montana
I would like to see a "Battle of whale poems"!!

I'd pay money for that one.

[sniktawt]

I'm Still waiting for ...

"Battle Of Actors That Have Appeared In Films With Other Actors"

[GrandMaster]

So tell me if its not original what does that do to you? Does it harm you? does it make you feel small?? what ever it is, its stupid. Don't come telling me that ive missed the point because i have not! Maybe to someone the battle thread is original! Just because its not original enough for you it don't not mean it can't be there!
its a waste of time because no one cares what you want to see, its about people discussing and having fun with movies even if it means making 100 battle threads!
So you can stick that "enough with battles" up your ass!

[sniktawt]

Dude, You're being a total Idiot and are making a complete ass out of your self.

I suggest you stifle the personal attack on me and calm down!!!;)

[dr_evil]

Originally posted by sniktawt
I'm Still waiting for ...

"Battle Of Actors That Have Appeared In Films With Other Actors"

i'm suprised their hasnt been a
"Battle of the Battle Threads" yet:p

[sniktawt]

There was!!!!

It's on this page I think.

[Tony Montana]

Im doing my "Battle of whale poems" tommorow...

[sniktawt]

Well it is "ORIGINAL!!!"

[GrandMaster]

I just think you need to be put in your place! your little demonstration is obviously leading to other disscutions, "Battle Of Actors That Have Appeared In Films With Other Actors" . Your the only ass around here if you think this thread is going to stop battle threads!

[IamMrDJ]

I'm sorry to say this but who in the world do you think you are GrandMaster, you have been here for what a month? You think you are the all knowing of what is right and what is wrong on the boards. If you knew what was good for you, you would realize that Snik is the true "Grand Master" of the battle threads.

I don't speak for Snik but I do think I know where he is coming from. He is not trying to stop battle threads from appearing. He just wants people to be original in their battle threads. IMO Snik's battles are pretty damn original and I really enjoy them but I really get annoyed when someone who has not been a member for long at all comes around and makes a battle that is exacltly like one of his battles.

[cg124]

Originally posted by IamMrDJ
I'm sorry to say this but who in the world do you think you are GrandMaster, you have been here for what a month? You think you are the all knowing of what is right and what is wrong on the boards. If you knew what was good for you, you would realize that Snik is the true "Grand Master" of the battle threads.

I don't speak for Snik but I do think I know where he is coming from. He is not trying to stop battle threads from appearing. He just wants people to be original in their battle threads. IMO Snik's battles are pretty damn original and I really enjoy them but I really get annoyed when someone who has not been a member for long at all comes around and makes a battle that is exacltly like one of his battles.

yeah gradmaster even wroted us in the one thread

Originally posted by GrandMaster
You losers! snik**** and cj124, are you having fun pissing the world off? leave people alone!

[Tony Montana]

How about "Battle of M&M dessert variations"?

[ResidentEvil131]

Can I post a battle on this net?

[cg124]

Originally posted by ResidentEvil131
Can I post a battle on this net?

what is the battle gonna be called

[Rogue]

Here's how it is, from a mod's point of view. We're here to run this site in a just and fair manner. Now, posting battles that are unoriginal or take little effort is a blatant slap in the face to those that put in the time and effort to make the battles enjoyable. I don't mind battle threads as long as there's a bit of time and energy put into it instead of just slapping it together and saying "Well, here's my battle thread. Here are the contestants, now vote your one word vote." That's not what it's about. Those of you say you start battle threads to spark discussion or find out what others like, you're doing a damn good job of hiding it. One word answers or posts are in no way the way to get to know the other posters or discuss movies, celebrities, etc.

If you want to start a thread, by all means, have at it. One thing that bothered me was something that Tenafly Viper said about spamming. Yes, it's true. We've all been known to do it at times; however, don't come down on the posters that have been here a while and have X amount of posts. We want the new posters to enjoy being here and to have fun. How the heck are they supposed to do that if there's nothing new? If it's the same old stuff over and over again? In your eyes, you may view us as unable to view the validity of other's posts, but as a mod, I'll continue to do my job. If that makes me something bad in your eyes, I'm sorry. I want the site run well and right now it's overrun with duplicated battle threads and the same old thing.

*shrugs* Had to get that off my chest..let the flaming begin.

[downflow311]

battle threads are spam IMO.

[TyRoss]

Originally posted by GrandMaster
I just think you need to be put in your place! your little demonstration is obviously leading to other disscutions, "Battle Of Actors That Have Appeared In Films With Other Actors" . Your the only ass around here if you think this thread is going to stop battle threads!

Actually the only one who needs a good smackdown is you.

Sniktawt is merely saying that duplicate battle threads are basicly a big waste and insulting to the original creator of the thread. Which is true.

They're also basicly spam which is against board policy.

It's kinda like saying "Wow thats a great idea I bet I could do it better"

Now while we realise people don't always see the threads before they open their own they should understand why we close them afterwards. We don't really get pissed off at the newbs for doing it but it is mildly annoying especially when they're duping something thats fairly obvious.

So before you go insulting people please take a little time and ask a little more about things.

Oh and he stated quite clearly that he doesn't want to stop battle threads.

[GrandMaster]

If he doesn't want to stop battle threads why is the title of this thread "Battle threads...enough". Is it just me or is snik**** impliying that he has enough of battle threads.
Im only trying to prove a point! Yes, i might be new and have no right to be complaining but unlike some of you, i have better things to be doing than be on-line *****ing about how many battle threads there are. Battle threads should be original i agree! but people do not do it on purpose to put up a unoriginal battle thread! I'm not starting anything with all of you. Its just for snik****.

[TyRoss]

Originally posted by GrandMaster
If he doesn't want to stop battle threads why is the title of this thread "Battle threads...enough". Is it just me or is snik**** impliying that he has enough of battle threads.
Im only trying to prove a point! Yes, i might be new and have no right to be complaining but unlike some of you, i have better things to be doing than be on-line *****ing about how many battle threads there are. Battle threads should be original i agree! but people do not do it on purpose to put up a unoriginal battle thread! I'm not starting anything with all of you. Its just for snik****.

So the thread is badly titled. You've just agreed with his point so what the hell are you arguing about.

Why would he want to stop battle threads when he is the undisputed king of battle threads?

Yes we know people don't do it on purpose but with a little effort they wouldn't do it at all.

He's fustrated is all you would be too if everyone started copying what you've been working hard on.

[GrandMaster]

obviously. Well, as long as you experienced users know that newbies don't do it on purpose. Sometimes it seems as if its the usual bunch (not mentioning names) who monopolise these message boards! i don't care anymore but i flip when people come on to another persons thread and say "this has been done before, it should be closed"

[Rogue]

It's not blatant if you're new, we know that. It's the fact that no matter how many times people are told, they do it again.

[Tenafly Viper]

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, to imitate someone is to pay the person a genuine compliment."

Rogue I don't think anyone here (especially you) is bad in any way.

Yes, there are a lot of battle threads, but I don't participate in ALL of them. I'm able to tell the difference between a well organized idea and a one that isn't, but that doesn't mean I feel there is no place for them (maybe not in an obsene quantity), I simple move on. I stand by what I said earlier that this could've been handled better. Perhaps a guideline for battle threads should've been posted instead or maybe just a general statement saying "hey guys the battle threads are fun but lets space them out a bit better" instead of this sticky which is counter productive because it breeds the kind of fighting that is going on now, people picking sides. It divides the board into new against old, and it is a little insulting when the spam card is played especially when a lot of "community" is more chat room then message board, which is great as long as there isn't a double standard. I don't want to harp on this because I don't have any problems with this board or anyone here, this is only the internet after all.

[droidguy1119]

I ignore most battle threads. I don't get them.

[Mat]

I'm with droidguy... I just ignore them

There was a guy who made good battle threads... but he's not around anymore...

[sniktawt]

GrandMaster, Keep flaming me... I thrive on it.
Plus it shows your maturity level.

All the Mods, Cg and Dj all know what I was trying to say when I started this thread.You just can't get the point.I'm not trying to stop Battle threads, Then that would mean I would have no purpose here.
I just want to bring the problem of useless threads copying from other battles to light.

Battle threads take a lot of hard work and It is a piss off when someone else sees a good idea and decides To rip it off.Now sometimes old battles die and the new posters don't see tham that's fine.

But when someone does battle of the scary horror characters right above The Horror Battle then of course that is a piss off.I take hours each day to make these so people can have fun, that's all.

Are you only attacking me because I started this thread??? Because I think that's so wrong.

I just had the guts enough to put the problem out in front, No one else wanted to do it.
Shoot me for being the voice of reason.

And why are you in such a tizzy over this?
Do you even run a battle thread ?
Do you even vote in any ?
Or are you someone That Was banned before that I pissed off ?

Hmmmmmm...;)

[Mat]

Kobolos... that was the guy with the good battle threads...

[Wringlets]

Bah...Snik is the King has been for months now!!!!

Kobolos battles were ok, Not near the work SNIK puts into his.

Just look at how far Snik takes an idea.
He doesn't make a thread for one idea, he takes a premise and then makes several battles based on it.

The battle of comic adapted characters is an excellent example.
His current theme is Battle of the Adapted Comic book alter egos, If that's not original I don't know what is.

I know I'm not alone in saying this.

People will remember Snik's battles for a long time to come.
Especially because some of us can realize the hard work that goes into these.

Thor's women battle is also a hard work effort and the hard work he puts into it shows.
As for Grandmaster, Learn the situation before you jump in.
Your flming of Snik is uncalled for.

[Boone]

Originally posted by faceoffmask.com
You guys say if you dont like it dont vote. So use the same rule for yourselves. Who cares if there are 1000 battles! If you don't like battles stay out of the thread. This is a movie board. Not your board. What is the problem with people finding out what other people think. All we are trying to to is have fun! Amen! Amen!

[sniktawt]

You quoted something that was said before faceoff realized this wasn't a personal attack.

I think his views have changed now that he knows this is not about stopping the current battle threads.

[IamMrDJ]

Originally posted by Wringlets
Bah...Snik is the King has been for months now!!!!

Kobolos battles were ok, Not near the work SNIK puts into his.

Just look at how far Snik takes an idea.
He doesn't make a thread for one idea, he takes a premise and then makes several battles based on it.

The battle of comic adapted characters is an excellent example.
His current theme is Battle of the Adapted Comic book alter egos, If that's not original I don't know what is.

I know I'm not alone in saying this.

People will remember Snik's battles for a long time to come.
Especially because some of us can realize the hard work that goes into these.

Thor's women battle is also a hard work effort and the hard work he puts into it shows.
As for Grandmaster, Learn the situation before you jump in.
Your flming of Snik is uncalled for.

I am with you all the way. I would have never though of half the battles or even a third of the characters that Snik has decided to use.

[sniktawt]

Well that's high Praise...Thanks Guys!!!!

[Quint]

Grandmaster, How can you trash Snik...
This is the guy who created the Gauntlet Battle thread!!!IMO, the single best idea to stem from a battle thread.

Plus he has more class than most on here because When he took over the same Type of thread that Ty did he always gave the man respect.He asked for permission , Unlike a few on here.

Don't knock the man till you hear the whole story.

[GrandMaster]

I'm not trashing snik**** at all! Just trying to show people how bossy a lot of you can get. I don't understand why you do that! ive been looking through a lot of threads and i constantly see the same people pointing fingers because someone has an unoriginal thread! to hell with that!
If you don't like it, talk to that person in private and explain to them that they are ripping off someone's battle thread. Wouldn't that be more reasonable?
And no i have never been banned, i'm not doing this out of fun but just showing my point of view. Im not trying to start a war against some of you so accept my apologies if thats the way you feel.

[Radiohead]

Kobolos and Dracula had excellent battle threads. i miss dracula's.

anyways, GrandMaster. Do us all a favor and please stop replying to this thread. no one is going to agree with you. end of story. if you have beef with sniktawt then PM HIM.

[sniktawt]

This was done with back in December.

Why the bump ?