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[Izzy]

I watched an episode of simpsons, and it had a (small) good point, two guys were fighting with lightsabers and they were saying, "Phantom menace sucked more-No! Attack of the clones sucked more."

And i agree, they both sucked compared to the originals. The first prequel sucked because they were just running around, very little fighting time, it was just boring stuff like, we have to get money to repair our ship, or we have to save Naboo. They took too much time to get these things done, like getting allies and crap. The only redeemable moment was the lightsaber duel, which didn't actually. The second one sucked because of the whole mushy crap, and (not unlike the first) they saved what little action (time wise) they had till the end. They had the people running around taking a crap load of time doing stuff they didn't need to take so long doing. The originals had us going saying, "what's happening next, and interesting plot twists." Whereas the prequels didn't. Episode III will be the best of the prequels. The first two were gay, "Keep Padme safe, or Find out where this poison dart came from that killed this shapeshifter." They had no development.

Which sucked more?

[dogisburning]

I think they're on the same level.I'd give it an 6 or 7 out of 10.
But IMO the lightsaber fights were done quite well.Expecialy Yoda Vs Count Dooku.That was cool...Best scene of the movie.

[Xeno21]

I'd have to put them both on the same level as well. I didn't hate the movies but I didn't come out of the theatre in awe either. I just enjoyed the original trilogy so much more. I don't know if it was because I was younger or what but the original trilogy was more magical to me.

[Kinjo]

Neither of them sucked in their own right. They just sucked when compared to the originals................OK they sucked because GL is an awful director. EP III should follow suit and be a wretched disappointment for all of us as well. If I had to pick which one is worse, I'd say PM.

[todd philip]

I enjoy the films on their own right, whenever i watch them I try hard not to think of the originals. These new ones are entertaining, and after all, thats all that really matters.

[Kris Hodgson]

The Phantom Menace was the worst of the two, but I still liked both of them. Jake Lloyd was inexcusebly bad. His line delivery made me cringe.

[Alien]

I liked both of them

[todd philip]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
The Phantom Menace was the worst of the two, but I still liked both of them. Jake Lloyd was inexcusebly bad. His line delivery made me cringe. he was alright :rolleyes:

[Clark Savage Jr]

neither

[Psycho-Pirate]

There is no question that both of these movies are pretty weak. And if they didn't tie into the original series, believe me, people be slamming this series left and right. Remember that movie with J-Jo and Ben? I think most people would lump these movies into that category if they didn't have "Star Wars" in the title. It would be the new Waterworld.

And let me take a minute to talk about the special effects in this series. I watched these movies and couldn't help wondering if I wasn't seeing the new Disney animated movie. I'm not saying the effects are bad, but they are so OBVIOUSLY effects that it distracts me from the people in the scene. At least the Matrix movies and the LOTR movies seemed believable. There is no suspension of disbelief in the new Star Wars movies. I think Lucas is using all of his computers to make up for his lack of directing ability. Does anybody else feel this way??

[Skrybe]

^

Gigli was the movie with J-Lo and Ben. Do you watch Late Night with Conan O'Brien? One of his band members sings a song every once in a while called "Gigli I Hate You." LOL

[soulassassin]

Izzy i agree with you on Episode 1, it wasn't really what i hoped for, but it didn't suck. If ep 1 - 3 were like ep 4-6 you would also complain at how much of a re-hash they were. if you said that Ep 1 just had Obiwan n Qui Gon runing around the universe for spare parts n less action was boring you would say the same thing if it was the other way round by having lots of action, you would say it has too much action n not much story. Besides wasn't it the same with Ep 4 where there wasn't much action(mostly all talk) Obi wan n Luke just flying around the universe looking for friends??

Episode 2 was much better coz it had more parallels with the original and had more action especially the end. Although still not up there with the original it is gettin quite close. Episode 2 was not gay it was much better and darker then Ep 1. You should at least be thankful that George gave us the prequels.

[jpdill]

I think audiences will leave Episode III hating Vader even more.

They should have the scene where Ani kills the Jedi children. I would hate him for that.

[true fan11212]

Enjoyed both films, but I like AOTC more.

[Psycho-Pirate]

I suspect that the biggest problem with the new series is the characters. Most of them are sooo bland. They're either morons or the whine all the time. And there was way too much romance in the last movie. I guess I wouldn't mind the romance if I liked the characters more.

And I think I might find myself respecting Darth even less after this next movie. I hated li'l Darth and teenage Darth was a total b*tch. Especially after he tried to take Dukoo all by himself after Ben told him they should attach together. Show some discipline, you idiot! If you're going to be a Jedi, you should respect the Jedi way. And that means respecting and listening to your teacher.

I would totally respect Darth more if he would act like a Jedi SHOULD act and still somehow gets screwed by the system. Then he could at least have something to be upset about. At least then I could say "He had been such a terrific Jedi, but fate was so unkind to him. And at least he isn't a whiner." He did nothing but complain and mess things up in the last movie. I guess that's still better than being "cute" for the length of the first movie. Me he IS making some kind of character development. Nah. He's just alternating his suckage.

[droidguy1119]

Yuck. Episode II is better than Episode I? No way. The amount of time I felt, alright, "this is Star Wars"? Episode II totaled maybe five minutes. Episode I was more than 40. These are both seriously lacking, but the comparison is huge.

Episode I nailed the Star Wars drama -- cheesy, space opera B-movie stuff. The action? Great. The lightsaber battle, Duel of the Fates? Except for the end, it rocked. The space battle stuff was mostly good, except for Anakin, and the Gungan/Droid war looked great. And the Podrace -- the Podrace is perfect. I could watch it forever.

But Episode II fails. The drama is gone. The romance sucks -- the dialogue disgusts me. The acting is rotten. And the Yoda fight -- don't get me started. The movie equivalent of a Jolt Cola. A fun rush for a little while before it's all gone and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. You can only watch it once, before the forced feel almost negates the cheap fun it was to watch it the first time. The other action is no better -- unscored and unemotional. Hate, hate, hate.

Read my "Balance" thread for more on why I think Episode II is worse than Episode I.

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20517

[Rabbit]

The first one sucked more, just because the 2nd one had better action

[Izzy]

Thanks guys. I'm extremely grateful for your input. I expected a bunch of people to come in and say i'm a complete idiot for saying crap like this and that i shouldn't be saying things like this. One person did come in like that, but said their opinion respectfully, and i'm thankful for that too.

[redman]

ep2 definately - the love story ruined it.

[Mat]

Ep1 had more Star Wars spirit. Ep2 was just stiff.

[Izzy]

Originally posted by soulassassin
if you said that Ep 1 just had Obiwan n Qui Gon runing around the universe for spare parts n less action was boring you would say the same thing if it was the other way round by having lots of action, you would say it has too much action n not much story. Besides wasn't it the same with Ep 4 where there wasn't much action(mostly all talk) Obi wan n Luke just flying around the universe looking for friends??
You should at least be thankful that George gave us the prequels.

Well at least in the originals there was stuff to find out, the first two movies gave very little answers to questions the originals brought up. I mean at least obi-wan was saying important things. there wasn't anything really happening, no action, no important dialogue. It was drawn out longer than it should've been. They weren't looking for friends, allies who could help them defeat the enemy. In the first prequel they didn't know their enemy till about midway. Drawn out way too long.

I am thankful, i just think he got lazy with them.

[joe_h]

I'm not saying the effects are bad, but they are so OBVIOUSLY effects that it distracts me from the people in the scene. At least the Matrix movies and the LOTR movies seemed believable.

Oh please, stop with the bull*****!!! The effects in the prequels are absolutely incredible. For anyone to say otherwise is stupid. They were nominated for Oscars as well as all sorts of other awards for a reason. The effects in both LOTR and Matrix are so obviously effects as well. There's no way in hell you can look at them and say otherwise.

[droidguy1119]

They're good, but Matrix and LotR are better, because as an audience we don't just sit there thinking about how fake it looks.

[Psycho-Pirate]

Thanks droidguy! You know what I am saying! The Star Wars effects are nice in a cartoony kind of way, but LOTR and Matrix had better effects. The new Star Wars movies look so much more fake. I'm never convinced that they are on alien worlds. Even the arena battle felt like it was on a sound stage.

[droidguy1119]

I mean, Star Wars draws your eyes to the effects instead of the effects residing in the background. Sure, they're great, but that's all I can see...sterile, miles of computer imagery, with soulless actors running around saying their lines like it was a painful operation.

[longissima]

.....because Ep. I was one of the most annoying movies I have ever seen. Any of my friends who have seen AOTC has told me not to bother seeing it. If these are prequels, then why are the special effects light-years ahead of the original trilogy? Why do the "prequels" and all of the technology in them look far more advanced than the originals?
I mean, Star Wars draws your eyes to the effects instead of the effects residing in the background. Sure, they're great, but that's all I can see...sterile, miles of computer imagery, with soulless actors running around saying their lines like it was a painful operation.
I agree with droidguy1119, if the words "Star Wars" were not attached to these films, they would be seen on USA Network on Friday and Saturday after 11 p.m. In my honest opinion, both of these movies cannot COMPARE to the LOTR trilogy as far as acting, character development, believing that your are seeing Middle Earth (or wherever the scene is in Star Wars), and the believability of the CG elements. Just my $0.02

[zamphir66]

to summarize Droidguy:
with Star Wars, you say: "Wow!What great special effects!"
with LOTR and matrix, you don't notice them, b/c the story is more important.

[adnamasevoltam]

i was disappointed by Ep. I unquestionably, but to me, it was Ep. II that had the SW feel again...nothing in comparison to the originals, but the feeling WAS there for me. so i see it that Lucas is improving, and im truly hoping that Ep. III tells the story it should and brings back the full feel of the SW we all knew b/f 1999.

while i cant fully agree w/droidguy and say that these movies feel like total cartoons or made-for-tv movies as i still view them as quality...just nothing in comparison to the originals. and ya, both LOTR and Matrix trilogies outdo the prequel trilogy hands down effect-wise and otherwise.

[Izzy]

Originally posted by joe_h
Oh please, stop with the bull*****!!! The effects in the prequels are absolutely incredible. For anyone to say otherwise is stupid. They were nominated for Oscars as well as all sorts of other awards for a reason. The effects in both LOTR and Matrix are so obviously effects as well. There's no way in hell you can look at them and say otherwise.

Hey! What the hell does the title of this thread say? It says specifically, "don't make negative comments if you're coming in at your own risk!"

In addition, Star Wars prequels scenes are saturated with effects, and they overwhelm what's going on. I love the originals, but the prequels rely too much on computer graphics.

LOTR and Matrix uses graphics to set the scene and fill in the blank spots in between, whereas the star wars prequels use graphics to make most of the scenes. Which is not necessary. LOTR and Matrix used graphics successfully.

Next time. Read the friggin' title.

[elfnmatrix]

I didn't mind TPM but it could have been way better....George Lucas really blew it. AOTC was a whole lot of fun. If the question then is which sucked more, I'd say TPM.

[JG7_ME262]

I'm a Starwars fan , not a critic. I like them both.

[Laterose]

They both sucked

[ruban]

I like Jolt Cola.

[Alexander JL]

Originally posted by Izzy
I watched an episode of simpsons, and it had a (small) good point, two guys were fighting with lightsabers and they were saying, "Phantom menace sucked more-No! Attack of the clones sucked more."

And i agree, they both sucked compared to the originals. The first prequel sucked because they were just running around, very little fighting time, it was just boring stuff like, we have to get money to repair our ship, or we have to save Naboo. They took too much time to get these things done, like getting allies and crap. The only redeemable moment was the lightsaber duel, which didn't actually. The second one sucked because of the whole mushy crap, and (not unlike the first) they saved what little action (time wise) they had till the end. They had the people running around taking a crap load of time doing stuff they didn't need to take so long doing. The originals had us going saying, "what's happening next, and interesting plot twists." Whereas the prequels didn't. Episode III will be the best of the prequels. The first two were gay, "Keep Padme safe, or Find out where this poison dart came from that killed this shapeshifter." They had no development.

Which sucked more?

So you're saying the only good movies are pure fighting movies?

That's not a very good way to judge movies, but to each his own.

[Izzy]

Originally posted by Alexander JL
So you're saying the only good movies are pure fighting movies?

That's not a very good way to judge movies, but to each his own.

Did you read the whole thing? I didn't just say they sucked because they weren't pure fighting movies. They had no development. Think before you say these things. Calm down. Drink some tea. Breathe .................................*closes eyes and exhales softly*

[Alexander JL]

Look who's talking.

[PsychoMike]

I had hope for TPM, yes Jar Jar anoyed the hell out of me, yes it was slow, yes Jake Loyd needs to take acting lessons. But the characters had potential, It could still develop into a good series.

After seeing ATOC I felt that the series became more about the special effects then the characters. Not to mention the lame, chemistry lacking, relationship between Padma and Anakin, and bad dialogue. This is why ATOC was worse than TPM.

If I watched TPM without having seen the original series I never would have watched ATOC. Now I think I'll wait for episode 3 to come out on DVD before I see it.

The way theese sequels turnned out Lucus should have kept them a secret.

[eclipsedman]

At least you guys and girls aren't *****in about how it raped your childhood! You guys need to see these films stoned, or even better on some good shrooms. It will give you a whole new feel about them.

[JimmyDean]

They both sucked. Infact, Star Wars sucks in general.

[zamphir66]

I think the biggest problem with the prequels is that there seems to be a disconnect between them and eps. IV-VI. I can't look at Ewan McGregor and see Alec Guiness. and the films just look and feel so very different, i can't connect them in my mind. if i felt that i was watching the same story play out with the same characters, i could forgive many faults. but i don't see that at all.

Now i'm not suggesting that I-III should look exactly like the originals in every way, that wouldn't even be possible. but think about it: when in film history has a movie series cranked out three films, waited about 20 years, and then cranked out 3 more that PRECEDE the originals? perhaps never again. hopefully.