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JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:24 AM

I was going to write a new review, but if this is the way you want to do it than... OK.

Let me just request that you follow Samwise and Gandollum's format and putting multiple questions in one post rather than one per post. It keeps the reply count down and helms me not to miss or skip over someone. If the thread grows to quickly then I will miss a question on page 3 and and answer a question on page 5.

Keep no more than 3 or 4 per post...

Also remember, there are somethings I want to keep from you for your sake. You will thank me in the end.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 01:25 AM

OK Jedi about how many soldiers are in Minas Tirith at the begining of the siege.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 01:39 AM

Come on Jedi you can answer that plz

Gandollum

12-08-2003, 01:41 AM

Be patient guys, Im pretty sure Jedi is waiting for the right time.

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 01:59 AM

is there a scouring of the shire???...........just kidding......do the battles drag on? Do they intercut the storylines sufficiently????

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by RebelwithaCause
IS THE WIKI-GANDALF CONFRONTATION IN THEIR???

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SAY YES, LOL....

Ok, let me get rid of this huge question:

There are hints of a confrontaion, you think it is about to happen but a full on confrontaion that we know from the book and WEAPONS OF WARFARE is not there

OK no more Gandalf/WiKi questions. Wait till you see the movie.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
Shelob dies?Or just badly wounded..

This is a good one and I am glad you asked:

The way that the post shelob scenes play out is with Sam coming to a rescue fighting with shelob, he stabs her. Then she runs off. So you can really play the guessing game, IMO I would assume she dies.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:13 AM

OK Jedi about how many soldiers are in Minas Tirith at the begining of the siege

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
Merry's role...same as before?Smaller?Bigger?

I would say bigger. I mean c'mon we see the hobbit go into battle.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
OK Jedi about how many soldiers are in Minas Tirith at the begining of the siege

aprox. 6,000 strong. Then you would subtract the 200 knights that go with Faramir on his suicide mission.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:17 AM

Ok so theres 6,000 in MT and then theres 6,000 riders in the Rohirrum as well. I was thinking Gondor would be a little more.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:18 AM

Ok about how many orcs are at the black gate? and how many men does aragorn march with to the black gates?

Gandollum

12-08-2003, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
I would say bigger. I mean c'mon we see the hobbit go into battle.

But does Pippen get more screentime than Merry? I read in a review that Merry doesnt get much screen presence.

Gandollum

12-08-2003, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
aprox. 6,000 strong. Then you would subtract the 200 knights that go with Faramir on his suicide mission.

BTW, is Faramir suicide mission handled well, does is look really heroic and brave.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by Samwise Gamwich
JEDI....

I have only 1 two part question for you...

1) Did this film meet or exceed your expectations (considering a lot of advanced word on certain changes etc...)

2) Would one have to view this film at least twice just to soak in it's full ganduer(sp?) we have only heard about from afar....

(Thanks for your reply in advance most wise JEDI_THE_WHITE)

1) Even with certain cuts, it exceeded my expectations

2) You only have to see it once for the emotional impact, it hits you like a ton of bricks. I would say see it again to appreciate it true beauty.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by Gandollum
I have a few questions, when you answer them can you just answer it generally, i dont want to know too much about them.

How big is Shelob?
How is Denethor portrayed, i heard hes a lot different in the books, is it because of the absence of the palantir? and how was his death scene handled
How was mordor, is it really creepy?
How intense was Frodo's torture scene?
And lastly, does Gandalf go crazy with his Staff

1) She's big enough. I think if WETA would have gone with her size as described in the book it would have looked silly. It would have been too big.

2) IMO, Denethor was played perfectly.

3) Denethor got we deserved.

4) Mordor gets freaky when you see these hordes of orcs coming out the black gates

5) You really feel for Frodo.

6) Yeah, during the siege.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:25 AM

1. Is Imrahil and his knights in.

2. Do men from all around come to Minas Tirith to help fight.

3. Does Aragorn only bring oathbreakers with him to Pelennor fields or men as well.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
Does gandalf shoot purple lazers out of his staff as in the rotk game? lol no I dont think I have to worry about that. but how long is the battle at the black gate and how many orcs are there.

Tough to say, it is intercut with the journey up mordor. It almost seems forever, but IN A GOOD WAY.

I stopped counting orcs 2 seconds after they were coming out the gate.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by Gandollum
BTW, is Faramir suicide mission handled well, does is look really heroic and brave.

Heroic for Faramir.

Sickening for Denethor, you can't believe that this man sent his youngest son to certain death.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
1. Is Imrahil and his knights in.

2. Do men from all around come to Minas Tirith to help fight.

3. Does Aragorn only bring oathbreakers with him to Pelennor fields or men as well.

1) No

2) Yes

3) just the oathbreakers, a dwarf and an elf.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:30 AM

ok would you say theres more orcs at the black gate or Pelennor Fields? or is it about the same. And how many men go to the black gate?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:32 AM

It's about the same.

What gives the battle of Pelennor fields it's grand scale is the extra enemy forces, Harad, Easterlings, Mumkil, Trolls, etc.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:36 AM

How does the siege first begin like at helms deep that old guy shot that arrow. Do the gondorians just begin shooting their arrows and catapults when the orcs get close enough or do they wait. Do the orcs stop before they begin attacking like at Helms Deep.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:40 AM

ok, Faramir had been brought back, drug by his horse. Nightfalls we look over the walls and you can see the army of Sauron coming up, Gandalf: "Within these walls is where the fate of Gondor will be decided..." Orcs start catapulting flaming balls and Gondor returns fire.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:42 AM

so the orcs attack first. Also you said theres 6,000 in the city how many of that were men that came from other places. In the book I belive about 1800 men came from other places to MT.

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
is there a scouring of the shire???...........just kidding......do the battles drag on? Do they intercut the storylines sufficiently????

^?

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:44 AM

Jedi already said the battles dont drag on to long and it intercuts with lots of stuff shelob rohirrum and waht else jedi?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
^?

The storylines are intercut perfectly and leaving perfect positions for additions that are to be for the EE of ROTK.

Never do the battles drag on...

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:46 AM

how many men does aragorn march with to the black gates?

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 02:47 AM

sorry for missing your answer, i didn't see it anywhere....anyway that sounds excellent, and thanks

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
so the orcs attack first. Also you said theres 6,000 in the city how many of that were men that came from other places. In the book I belive about 1800 men came from other places to MT.

At the siege, it's hard to tell because no one carries a banner when they run around in groups. Now at the black gate everyone has a banner and I swear I saw in a wideshot the banner of the SILVER SWAN. Even though Imrahil was not there or at least not seen.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
Jedi already said the battles dont drag on to long and it intercuts with lots of stuff shelob rohirrum and waht else jedi?

Black gate is intercut with the journey to the crack of doom.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:50 AM

how many men does aragorn march with to the black gates? In the book it was 7,000 now Im thinking its a lot less in the movie.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
how many men does aragorn march with to the black gates?

Combined with rohirrim and Gondor. aprox 450 to 500 men.

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 02:53 AM

why are all these numbers important.......you know there are going to be a lot, whether it looks like 5000 or 10000, would you really be able to tell????

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:54 AM

well if theres only 500 men at the black gate and the battles lasts over 10mins then it wont seem realistic at all that the men are lasting this long being outnumered over ten times.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:54 AM

You know what DA, after think about the question on where more orcs were Pelennor fields or the black gate...

I have to same it wasn't close to the same, black gate had more.

It had to be at least 250,000. They were surrounded.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
well if theres only 500 men at the black gate and the battles lasts over 10mins then it wont seem realistic at all that the men are lasting this long being outnumered over ten times.

Well it worked for me...

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:57 AM

**** thats a lot of orcs 500men against 250,000 orcs thats RIDICULOS. That means the men are out numbered 500 times. now that I think of it the battle cant last no more then around 8mins or else it would be like dumb.

Gandollum

12-08-2003, 02:58 AM

How was Gollums tranformation, was it a lot like Theodens in TTT

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Well it worked for me...

how long did the battle at the black gate last.

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:00 AM

does sam put the ring on???

tman662000

12-08-2003, 03:01 AM

How is Theodens Speetch to the Rohirrim before battle?? Some reviews I've read says its really awesome.
Does Merry have the same role in the witchking battle as he did in the book, or has it been altered? Havent heard much about his role in that scene, just wondering?? Thanks in advance...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:01 AM

You have to remember there is alot of little things that happen in the battle which cause it to take us all the way to the destruction of the ring.
Aragorn's speech
Aragorn vs. troll
The eagles

There is more.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
does sam put the ring on???

No.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by tman662000
How is Theodens Speetch to the Rohirrim before battle?? Some reviews I've read says its really awesome.
Does Merry have the same role in the witchking battle as he did in the book, or has it been altered? Havent heard much about his role in that scene, just wondering?? Thanks in advance...

1) More than awesome

2) it's the same

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 03:05 AM

oh how do oathbreakers kill orcs or do they just scare them away.

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:05 AM

he doesn't put the ring on.....awwwww.....

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
oh how do oathbreakers kill orcs or do they just scare them away.
haha, i remember this discussion Dol!

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:06 AM

DA, let me type this passage from the weapons and warfare book:

"aragorn rode to the black gates with a column of 500 men..."

That's how many I saw.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 03:07 AM

If they do kill orcs them im guessing they like take their life force away or something like that.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:10 AM

Oh, they kill, believe me they kill...

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:11 AM

phisically, like cutting heads and stuff. i think it would be best that way, rather than some witch-craft type thing

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
phisically, like cutting heads and stuff. i think it would be best that way, rather than some witch-craft type thing

OH YES... No cutting of heads though, mostly body shots

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:14 AM

Just a couple more then that's it for tonight...

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:14 AM

thats really good news, i was hoping it'd be done it that manner

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:15 AM

You just wait till you see them LOTRNUT...

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:17 AM

dont say that!!!!! I CAN"T WAIT ANY LONGER!!!! only 9 days left for us average joe's :) luckily someone is hear to keep me sane!!

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:18 AM

oh yeah, awhile back, JEDI, you said on the poster Sean Bean's name was mentioned, is he in ROTK, and if so, how???

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:19 AM

OK guys, I am tired...

More tomorrow.

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:20 AM

answer that last one real quick please!!! if not, thanks anyway

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
oh yeah, awhile back, JEDI, you said on the poster Sean Bean's name was mentioned, is he in ROTK, and if so, how???

LAST ONE FOR TONIGHT...

quick flashback to his death

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 03:20 AM

Ok last one for me Jedi thanks you have made my night last one.

does it show Saruman at all in rotk like just for a second.

LOTRNUT04

12-08-2003, 03:20 AM

excellent, thanks....

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 03:21 AM

Gracias

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 03:37 AM

these were all asked and answerd by Jedi

IS THE WIKI-GANDALF CONFRONTATION IN THEIR?

-There are hints of a confrontaion, you think it is about to happen but a full on confrontaion that we know from the book and WEAPONS OF WARFARE is not there

Does shelob die or get wounded

-The way that the post shelob scenes play out is with Sam coming to a rescue fighting with shelob, he stabs her. Then she runs off. So you can really play the guessing game, IMO I would assume she dies.

how many soldiers are in Minas Tirith at the begining of the siege

-aprox. 6,000 strong. Then you would subtract the 200 knights that go with Faramir on his suicide mission

1How big is Shelob?
2How is Denethor portrayed, i heard hes a lot different in the books, is it because of the absence of the palantir? and how 3was his death scene handled
4How was mordor, is it really creepy?
5How intense was Frodo's torture scene?
6And lastly, does Gandalf go crazy with his Staff

-1) She's big enough. I think if WETA would have gone with her size as described in the book it would have looked silly. It would have been too big.

2) IMO, Denethor was played perfectly.

3) Denethor got we deserved.

4) Mordor gets freaky when you see these hordes of orcs coming out the black gates

5) You really feel for Frodo.

6) Yeah, during the siege.

A. Is Imrahil and his knights in.

B. Do men from all around come to Minas Tirith to help fight.

C. Does Aragorn only bring oathbreakers with him to Pelennor fields or men as well.

-A) No

B) Yes

C) just the oathbreakers, a dwarf and an elf.

How does the siege first begin

-ok, Faramir had been brought back, drug by his horse. Nightfalls we look over the walls and you can see the army of Sauron coming up, Gandalf: "Within these walls is where the fate of Gondor will be decided..." Orcs start catapulting flaming balls and Gondor returns fire.

how many men does aragorn march with to the black gates and how many orcs are at the black gate.

-500men

over 200,000 orcs

does sam put the ring on???

-no

How is Theodens Speetch to the Rohirrim before battle?? Some reviews I've read says its really awesome.
Does Merry have the same role in the witchking battle as he did in the book, or has it been altered? Havent heard much about his role in that scene, just wondering?? Thanks in advance

-1) More than awesome

2) it's the same

oh how do oathbreakers kill orcs or do they just scare them away

-Oh, they kill, believe me they kill...

ILOVEKATIE

12-08-2003, 03:38 AM

damn, I came to late

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 06:25 AM

so aragorn kills a troll..legolas kills a oliphaunt...merry kills WIKI...How bout pippin?He killed a troll at the black gates in the book right?

KenM

12-08-2003, 08:24 AM

Couple of more questions:

1. Is Bilbo in RotK? Even at the end, does he show up with the others when they sail? I was hoping they would at least show Him in TTT, but it was not to be.

2. Does Gimli have a big fight scene?

Thanks

Barrett

12-08-2003, 10:21 AM

Do they have eomer finding theoden and Eowyn on the battlefield?

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by KenM
Couple of more questions:

1. Is Bilbo in RotK? Even at the end, does he show up with the others when they sail? I was hoping they would at least show Him in TTT, but it was not to be.

Thanks

that i can answer...yes he will appear..;)

FVD

12-08-2003, 11:17 AM

How about when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli leaving Dunharrow for the Paths Of The Dead. Did anybody else accompany them. Halbarad, Elladan and Elrohir?

If not it would have been a shame to not see any other Dunedain Rangers.

Also when Elrond went to present the reforged Narsil before Aragorn he can't have travelled alone surely.

FVD.

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by FVD
How about when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli leaving Dunharrow for the Paths Of The Dead. Did anybody else accompany them. Halbarad, Elladan and Elrohir?

If not it would have been a shame to not see any other Dunedain Rangers.

that i can answer too...the answer is...NO

Kinjo

12-08-2003, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Barrett
Do they have eomer finding theoden and Eowyn on the battlefield?

^^

What he said, and also tell me that Eomer at least keeps ONE of his awesome badass lines.....or does......SOMETHING of merit

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
so aragorn kills a troll..legolas kills a oliphaunt...merry kills WIKI...How bout pippin?He killed a troll at the black gates in the book right?

That was the interesting thing, they Aragorn take on a troll, but not Pippin. He help out with the orcs though.

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:02 PM

Right..well marty said that we wont see eomer finding theoden on the battlefield...is he right or wrong?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Kinjo
^^

What he said, and also tell me that Eomer at least keeps ONE of his awesome badass lines.....or does......SOMETHING of merit

Unfortunately, I did not see it in there.

You just wait to see how fierce Eomer is on the battle field.

I can't wait untill the EE, I want to see this guy crowned king of Rohan.

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:04 PM

u mean he wasnt crowned in the movie?damn...

neo2747

12-08-2003, 01:06 PM

Jedi my man.

1)Is Grond in the film

2)Shelob look realistic enough

3)is the finale a tearjerker

Thanx

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
u mean he wasnt crowned in the movie?damn...

No there was no ceremony for Eomer or funeral for Theoden.

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:07 PM

but are u sure it will be in the EE?then theoden just...lies on the battlefield?hmmm...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by neo2747
Jedi my man.

1)Is Grond in the film

2)Shelob look realistic enough

3)is the finale a tearjerker

Thanx

1) OH YES!

2) She looks just right

3) YES

Kinjo

12-08-2003, 01:09 PM

oops

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:10 PM

O and the burning question...who exactly said the line,'Ride now!Ride for ruin!And the world's ending!!' in the movie?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
but are u sure it will be in the EE?then theoden just...lies on the battlefield?hmmm...

It has to be. That action figure has Eomer in ceremonial armor.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
O and the burning question...who exactly said the line,'Ride now!Ride for ruin!And the world's ending!!' in the movie?

Theoden King and IT WORKS!

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:11 PM

i dont remember seeing it though..

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Theoden King and IT WORKS!

hahaa..i thought so...then what abt Eomer's kickass line?i know you wont tell me but is it from the books?

neo2747

12-08-2003, 01:13 PM

OH YES GROND IS IN IT DID THEY HAVE THE CHANT JEDI MY MAN???

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
i dont remember seeing it though..

Oh, well yeah there is an action figure for ROTK and Eomer is wearing ceremonial armor.

Kinjo

12-08-2003, 01:13 PM

So Eomer has NO cool lines? Sigh....maybe death take us all will be in the EE.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by neo2747
OH YES GROND IS IN IT DID THEY HAVE THE CHANT JEDI MY MAN???

GROND!!! GROND!!!! GROND!!!!!!

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:14 PM

Hmmm...i can just picture that...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
hahaa..i thought so...then what abt Eomer's kickass line?i know you wont tell me but is it from the books?

There is a few good ones... ;)

neo2747

12-08-2003, 01:15 PM

Oh yes WAS MoS in it or not? i can't wait to hear that chant. GROND GROND GROND

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:16 PM

No he's not..;)

(Taking over the job of jedi..)

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by neo2747
Oh yes WAS MoS in it or not? i can't wait to hear that chant. GROND GROND GROND

Unfortunately no...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:17 PM

Couple more guys, then I have to step out...

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:18 PM

HMMM...i cant think of qns right now

OHH OHH!!!HEADS?ARE THERE FLYING HEADS?

Kinjo

12-08-2003, 01:18 PM

There's a bloody conspiracy!! LOL Both you and Marty speak in riddles about bothe Eomer and Faramir

neo2747

12-08-2003, 01:19 PM

Dam No MoS Was the Legolas vs the Mumakil amazing?

Was there anyfighting in POTD?

Cheers ma man

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
HMMM...i cant think of qns right now

OHH OHH!!!HEADS?ARE THERE FLYING HEADS?

Yes

Oh and PsYkOoOoO, No Saruman is not shown.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by neo2747
Dam No MoS Was the Legolas vs the Mumakil amazing?

Was there anyfighting in POTD?

Cheers ma man

Last one here..

1) Yes it was totally awesome.

2) There was quick exchange of sword moves.

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:21 PM

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL!!!

and i dont think i asked anything regarding saruman?

Elessar504

12-08-2003, 01:24 PM

Hello JEDI

Talk about the Frodo's dream, please
Where, why?

PsYkOoOoO

12-08-2003, 01:24 PM

Shelob's Lair my man...;)

Elessar504

12-08-2003, 01:29 PM

Yes but... what Galadriel says??

The_Almighty

12-08-2003, 02:15 PM

Yo Jedi,

which parts of the soundtrack are where in the movie?

UnicornBlood3

12-08-2003, 03:38 PM

Jedi, I have a quick question. I don't know if anyone asked this, but I looked through the thread and I didn't see it. Does Eomer find Eowyn and Theoden on the battlefield and does he say "Death, Death take us all" or whatever it was? Sorry if it's already been asked. Thanks.

Shagrat

12-08-2003, 04:06 PM

Do we see the Corsairs in the film? I heard PJ played a Corsair in a fight scene against the Army of the Dead. Did it make the cut or can we look forward to it in the EE?

Thanks Jedi

D-fence

12-08-2003, 04:13 PM

I've heard rumours that Arwen lies dying during most of the film. Is this true? And if so: Why?

Cbars

12-08-2003, 04:24 PM

How does Frodo seems? I read in another review that he is really wimpy. Does he seem really heroic and that the ring is just wearing on him or is the other reviewer right?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Elessar504
Hello JEDI

Talk about the Frodo's dream, please
Where, why?

It comes after shelob's tunnel

You have to see this scene for yourself...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by The_Almighty
Yo Jedi,

which parts of the soundtrack are where in the movie?

Hmmm...

A storm is coming is the opening...

Minas Tirith begins as Gandalf and Pippin ride to Gondor

Ride of the rohirrim is obvious

Shelob's lair is obvious

I believe Anduril began as we enter the foundry of Rivendell where the sword is reforged...

Steward of Gondor (WHICH I LOVE!!) begins after Denethor sends Faramir out to certain death and we see him making his way through the streets of MT with his 200 men, then Billy Boyd begins to sing.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by UnicornBlood3
Jedi, I have a quick question. I don't know if anyone asked this, but I looked through the thread and I didn't see it. Does Eomer find Eowyn and Theoden on the battlefield and does he say "Death, Death take us all" or whatever it was? Sorry if it's already been asked. Thanks.

He doesn't find Theoden

I heard some of them shouting Death, thats it just that one word.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Shagrat
Do we see the Corsairs in the film? I heard PJ played a Corsair in a fight scene against the Army of the Dead. Did it make the cut or can we look forward to it in the EE?

Thanks Jedi

First yes we see the Corsairs arriving at pelennor. I don't recall seeing them @ the paths of dead where Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli should have boarded as it is in the book.

The thing with PJ, I was not aware where his cameo was untill after a couple days of the premiere, I read it here first. So I was't really looking. I also hear Richard Taylor has a cameo also.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by D-fence
I've heard rumours that Arwen lies dying during most of the film. Is this true? And if so: Why?

She's not dying, she is more becoming gravely ill. The reason the film gives is because the ring has not been destroyed yet.

downflow311

12-08-2003, 04:53 PM

jedi- do we see a battle in osgiliath before pellenor fields? i heard they show some orcs attacking from a boat in osgiliath

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Cbars
How does Frodo seems? I read in another review that he is really wimpy. Does he seem really heroic and that the ring is just wearing on him or is the other reviewer right?

Frodo is great. You really see the ring take over him, the burden becomes so heavy.

bigmanjg225533

12-08-2003, 04:54 PM

wut is pj's cameo?

downflow311

12-08-2003, 04:55 PM

he is a corsair warrior

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by downflow311
jedi- do we see a battle in osgiliath before pellenor fields? i heard they show some orcs attacking from a boat in osgiliath

You see a quick glimpse of Osgiliath being overun and Faramir and his men retreating to MT.

downflow311

12-08-2003, 04:56 PM

does Sauron take another form at all in this movie besides the 'eye'?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 04:58 PM

No...

downflow311

12-08-2003, 04:59 PM

*sigh* so he ended up being just an eye. that bnlows

downflow311

12-08-2003, 04:59 PM

thats all i want to know before i see it in a week. thanks jedi

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by downflow311
*sigh* so he ended up being just an eye. that bnlows

Yeah... I really wanted PJ to go through with it. I think what happened is that the "purists" were complaining too much he decided not to do it. Like I had said earlier, he wasn't suppose to take full form, it was supposed to be something else.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 05:03 PM

Couple more than I am going to log off for a while...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 05:06 PM

I'll be back later...

OneRing

12-08-2003, 05:15 PM

JEDI_THE_WHITE..i have a question about Sauron and the "eye".
I have read some places that the "eye" turns into a "headlight" type of deal. almost like a lighthouse. is this true? please explain thanks

The_Almighty

12-08-2003, 05:23 PM

Hey, Jedi the Almost White, don't ignore me. Answer! Answer! Answer! My precious!

Screwu2

12-08-2003, 05:33 PM

Does Faramir tell gandalf all about how he saw them like in the books. And how does Gandalf take the news? What does he do?

Thx

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by OneRing
JEDI_THE_WHITE..i have a question about Sauron and the "eye".
I have read some places that the "eye" turns into a "headlight" type of deal. almost like a lighthouse. is this true? please explain thanks

Headlight???

I think the reports are speaking of something that happens when Pip looks into the palantir. You'll have to see that for yourself.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by The_Almighty
Hey, Jedi the Almost White

:confused:

I like to think I really earned the title of "the White"

what was your question???

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Screwu2
Does Faramir tell gandalf all about how he saw them like in the books. And how does Gandalf take the news? What does he do?

Thx

There is bried encounter in the street of MT, the one you have all seen.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 05:42 PM

That's it for now...

Dogbert0228

12-08-2003, 06:59 PM

Since I have this thread at my disposal...

How well are the Paths of the Dead explained?

tman662000

12-08-2003, 08:25 PM

This is for Jedi whenever he gets back. I read in one of the reviews (cant remember which one) that Merry really gets the shaft in this movie and the other 3 hobbits all have way more screentime. Is this true?........that would be a damn shame.

Also, does Frodo and Sam ever see Merry and Pippen in their respective armour?? Do they have any reaction to it? that would be really cool......

Brandy

12-08-2003, 08:48 PM

Perhaps more specific questions about Merry, if you please . . we've all seen this in the trailers since FOTR . . but, does Merry pledge fealty to Theoden?

Does Merry say the words, "As a father you shall be to me."

Does Stybba make an appearance?

Thanks. ;)

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Dogbert0228
Since I have this thread at my disposal...

How well are the Paths of the Dead explained?

Quite well, Elrond explains a little. The audience gets the full understanding once the three hunters enter the path of the dead.

CWLakers34

12-08-2003, 08:54 PM

Ok some Shelob questions:

1. Is it as scary as most reviews say (especially to arachnophobes like me)?

2. How large is the jump factor during this sequence? I mean jumping as in being scared.

3. Approximately how long is the sequence?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by tman662000
This is for Jedi whenever he gets back. I read in one of the reviews (cant remember which one) that Merry really gets the shaft in this movie and the other 3 hobbits all have way more screentime. Is this true?........that would be a damn shame.

Also, does Frodo and Sam ever see Merry and Pippen in their respective armour?? Do they have any reaction to it? that would be really cool......

1) I don't believe Merry gets little screen time. He gets more in this film than he has in the previous two. Not only that, he gets extra because he goes to the black gate along with Pippin. NO WAY, he gets good screen time.

2) I trying to remember when Frodo woke up after the end of all things, if M and P were wearing there armor. No, I don't believe so.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Brandy
Perhaps more specific questions about Merry, if you please . . we've all seen this in the trailers since FOTR . . but, does Merry pledge fealty to Theoden?

Does Merry say the words, "As a father you shall be to me."

Does Stybba make an appearance?

Thanks. ;)

I am sorry to say no in both accounts.

It will be in the EE. The line you mentioned won't be, Merry is to say "I have a sword and I pledge my service to you Theoden King..."

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by CWLakers34
Ok some Shelob questions:

1. Is it as scary as most reviews say (especially to arachnophobes like me)?

2. How large is the jump factor during this sequence? I mean jumping as in being scared.

3. Approximately how long is the sequence?

1) You may want too, but I beg you TRY NOT TO CLOSE YOUR EYES. That should answer your question.

2) Pretty high jumpy factor, especially when Gollum disappears into shadow to let Frodo go it alone.

3)Not really sure.

CWLakers34

12-08-2003, 09:02 PM

Thanks JEDI... as you probably already know, you're the man! I'm scared about that sequence already lol. But I should probably ask if YOU closed YOUR eyes....

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by CWLakers34
Thanks JEDI... as you probably already know, you're the man! I'm scared about that sequence already lol. But I should probably ask if YOU closed YOUR eyes....

No, I just had to try really hard to hold the back the tears when Sam came upon a lifeless Frodo...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 09:08 PM

I just want to elaborate more on a Shelob question that was asked about if Sam just scared her off or if he killed her:

Like I said Sam stabs her, then she runs off in the film, according to WEAPONS AND WARFARE, Sam gave Shelob a mortal wound. So, it is safe to say she died because of Sam's strike.

UnicornBlood3

12-08-2003, 09:14 PM

So Merry goes to the Black Gates with Pippin? Do they say anything about his "wound" or does that not bother him?

tman662000

12-08-2003, 09:17 PM

How was the ride of the Rohirrim? I heard its one of the best parts of the battle, if not THE best part.
In the preview, it shows Pippen holding Merry in the midst of battle, how does that happen? Is Pippen in the middle of the battle along with Merry, cause we all know Pippen doesnt actually take part in the main battle in the book.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by UnicornBlood3
So Merry goes to the Black Gates with Pippin? Do they say anything about his "wound" or does that not bother him?

There is a quick reference, but it doesn't really bother him when it is time to go to the black gate.

It's after he gets wounded at pelennor fields, he has trouble breathing, kind of like Frodo before Aragorn gave him that plant.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by tman662000
How was the ride of the Rohirrim? I heard its one of the best parts of the battle, if not THE best part.
In the preview, it shows Pippen holding Merry in the midst of battle, how does that happen? Is Pippen in the middle of the battle along with Merry, cause we all know Pippen doesnt actually take part in the main battle in the book.

1) "The Ride" was awesome, the music was perfect for that scene.

2) I think that scene happened inside the city walls after Pip brought Merry beyond the gate, then they got surrounded and then Gandalf took them to safety.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 09:26 PM

More later...

Brock Landers

12-08-2003, 09:28 PM

So, the Trek through Mordor is intercut with the Battle at the Black Gates? Or is the battle intercut with just the climb up Mount Doom?

RebelwithaCause

12-08-2003, 09:29 PM

Hey Dude,
muchas gracias for answering the questions. I also wanted to ask a few...

1: How was the whole Arwen situation used here? Did it work, or just distract?
2: What, for you, would be the most crowd pleasing moment?
3: The critics who have reviewed it so far have been saying that the ending drags on too long...do you believe that is true?

Thanks a lot dude!

White Raven

12-08-2003, 09:44 PM

How about the Shire? I know there is no Scouring of the Shire, but when they come back, is the Shire still it's lucious green or has it signs of change of war?

How is Frodo when they arrive? Does his wound of the Nazgul blade still scar him?

Who all thakes the journey form the Grey Havens?

If there is no house of healing scene with Aragorn, How do the sick get better?

How is the the Pyre of Denethor?

Thanks...

Elessar504

12-08-2003, 09:52 PM

Some questions:

Are the Army of Death "caspers"? and How they leave the Pelennor fields?

Something about Beregond or Bergil?

Faramir is proclamed the "Prince of Ithilien"?

Brock Landers

12-08-2003, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers
So, the Trek through Mordor is intercut with the Battle at the Black Gates? Or is the battle intercut with just the climb up Mount Doom?

Just bumping this as the frontrunner.....:D

Glordreen

12-08-2003, 11:04 PM

I only have one question for you Jedi................Is It the best film you have ever seen?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:18 PM

First let me make quick correction on an answer I gave:

I said that when Pip is holding a wounded Merry, they are inside the city walls.

No, they are not. They are on the field of pelennor. I got mixed up with another scene.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers
So, the Trek through Mordor is intercut with the Battle at the Black Gates? Or is the battle intercut with just the climb up Mount Doom?

A little of both, I would say the journey to the gates in intercut with the lasts bits of Cirith Ungol and the battle is intercut with Mt. Doom.

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 11:23 PM

Jedi how long does the battle at the black gate last. If it starts at then end of Cirith Ungul up to Mt doom. then it must last like 30mins.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by RebelwithaCause
Hey Dude,
muchas gracias for answering the questions. I also wanted to ask a few...

1: How was the whole Arwen situation used here? Did it work, or just distract?
2: What, for you, would be the most crowd pleasing moment?
3: The critics who have reviewed it so far have been saying that the ending drags on too long...do you believe that is true?

Thanks a lot dude!

1) Arwen's story is great, you feel sad when she starts to become ill. I think the reason you become sad is because Elrond finally allows that stern wall he has about him to break down and you finally see the love of a father for a daughter.

2) For me there was a bunch, if I had to pick one it would have to be either After Sam wounds shelob and she goes off, he goes to Frodo and he is lifeless, Sam tells Frodo something like "please Frodo, do not go where I can't follow..." or When Sam tells Frodo "I can't carry the ring but I can carry you..." PJ truly captured the spirit of the chatper titled THE CHOICES OF MASTER SAMWISE.

3) Nothing could be further from the truth.

RebelwithaCause

12-08-2003, 11:29 PM

Awesome! Thanks a bunch!

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Elessar504
Some questions:

Are the Army of Death "caspers"? and How they leave the Pelennor fields?

Something about Beregond or Bergil?

Faramir is proclamed the "Prince of Ithilien"?

1) Wait till you see the film

2) Saved for EE

3) Saved for EE

Glordreen

12-08-2003, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Glordreen
I only have one question for you Jedi................Is It the best film you have ever seen?

Jedi, if you would be so kind.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by White Raven
How about the Shire? I know there is no Scouring of the Shire, but when they come back, is the Shire still it's lucious green or has it signs of change of war?

How is Frodo when they arrive? Does his wound of the Nazgul blade still scar him?

Who all thakes the journey form the Grey Havens?

If there is no house of healing scene with Aragorn, How do the sick get better?

How is the the Pyre of Denethor?

Thanks...

1) Shire is still intact

2) Frodo is fine untill, something happens... (Wait till you see it)

3)Galadriel, Gandalf, Bilbo, Elrond Don't worry,
there is a goodbye scene.

4) It's not told

5)Wicked and awesome at the same time.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Glordreen
I only have one question for you Jedi................Is It the best film you have ever seen?

It is defintely one of them... who knows what the future holds???

DolAmroth

12-08-2003, 11:37 PM

Jedi how long does the battle at the black gate last. If it starts at then end of Cirith Ungul up to Mt doom. then it must last like 30mins.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
Jedi how long does the battle at the black gate last. If it starts at then end of Cirith Ungul up to Mt doom. then it must last like 30mins.

Well remember, I said the "JOURNEY TO THE BLACK GATE is intercut with the lasts parts of Cirith Ungol. The battle itself begins with as the hobbits are already making their up to the crack of doom.

So, I would say the battle itself lasts about 10 minutes give or take.

You remeber all the little things that happen in between.

Gandollum

12-08-2003, 11:45 PM

How many Oliphaunts and trolls are there in the battle?
How many ships, in the books i remember there being 50 or 60?
How big is the AOTD?

kylesmile

12-08-2003, 11:47 PM

Thank you so much JEDI!

I have a few questions:

1. Is Arwen's line, "You have the gift of foresight tell me what you have seen!" that was seen in trailers for TTT in ROTK?

2. Is Frodo a very likable character in ROTK?

3. If you had to pick 2 lines that stand out from ROTK and who said them, what would they be?

Thanks again!!!

Elessar504

12-08-2003, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
1) Wait till you see the film

2) Saved for EE

3) Saved for EE

Thanks JEDI,

We will have an Excellent Extended DVD :)

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Gandollum
How many Oliphaunts and trolls are there in the battle?
How many ships, in the books i remember there being 50 or 60?
How big is the AOTD?

First, I saw your mistake in the Green Dragon... hahaha :)

1) Not sure of the total amount of mumakil, there were two trolls per siege tower and 4 trolls that operated grond

2) In the film version I think was like 8 or 10. aprox 450 or 500 feet long.

3) the AOTD is 4500 to 5000 strong

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-08-2003, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by kylesmile
Thank you so much JEDI!

I have a few questions:

1. Is Arwen's line, "You have the gift of foresight tell me what you have seen!" that was seen in trailers for TTT in ROTK?

2. Is Frodo a very likable character in ROTK?

3. If you had to pick 2 lines that stand out from ROTK and who said them, what would they be?

Thanks again!!!

1) No

2) Yes

3) Sam: "Please Frodo, do not got where I can't follow

and

Aragorn: "6,000 will not be enough to break the line of Mordor... Theoden: "More will come."

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 12:00 AM

That's it for now...

Screwu2

12-09-2003, 12:10 AM

Well if/when u start up again I remember Harry at AICN mentioning something about someone being blind in ROTK. Is this true and if so who is it.

thx

DolAmroth

12-09-2003, 12:20 AM

Jedi At helms Deep the deeping wall was garisoned with 3 rows of elfs all the way down it. How well garisoned is the main wall at Minas Tirith?

Cbars

12-09-2003, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE

2) Frodo is fine untill, something happens... (Wait till you see it)

Ok, Jedi, Now you are making me nervous. Frodo is my favorite you know. Am I going to hate this?

DolAmroth

12-09-2003, 12:23 AM

Dont worry Frodo wont die or anything just something will happen that will make him want to leave to the gray havens.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by Screwu2
Well if/when u start up again I remember Harry at AICN mentioning something about someone being blind in ROTK. Is this true and if so who is it.

thx

Frodo did have some problems post shelob. Though not the way the report described. I have feeling the report meant either Faramir during the HoH or Mouth of Sauron. Which we will see both in the EE.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
Jedi At helms Deep the deeping wall was garisoned with 3 rows of elfs all the way down it. How well garisoned is the main wall at Minas Tirith?

VERY WELL, the main wall has great support. But, with the wall being so high, it puts the archers in threat of the catapult and the nazgul

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Cbars
Ok, Jedi, Now you are making me nervous. Frodo is my favorite you know. Am I going to hate this?

No you are not going to hate it...

See DolAmroth's post

DolAmroth

12-09-2003, 01:37 AM

how many rows of men are there down the wall. And like during the battle do more men come up from down below to reinforce the wall. Also is there ever a point like when Grond comes that the wall is ever completely over run by orcs.

DolAmroth

12-09-2003, 01:42 AM

Also Jedi you said there are 6,000 men in Minas Tirith well are all those 6,000 on top of the wall during the siege.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
how many rows of men are there down the wall. And like during the battle do more men come up from down below to reinforce the wall. Also is there ever a point like when Grond comes that the wall is ever completely over run by orcs.

One long row of archers. As the siege rages on, some of the men retreat to the bottom help secure the gate and the others go to the third tier and return fire. There is a point when the men begin to get over run, when the nazgul come and when the catapults fire and when the siege towers go forward.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by DolAmroth
Also Jedi you said there are 6,000 men in Minas Tirith well are all those 6,000 on top of the wall during the siege.

No, Gandalf has some men sent to support the gates, others to the above levels to work the Gondorian catapults

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:49 AM

Real quick let me mention that I decided on the 10th of Dec, I will no longer answer questions. That will only leave you with 7 days and some of you 6 days to prepare your self for the magic which is ROTK.

I have to admit, I am very proud of everyone asking some decent questions, there has been hardly any hardcore spoilers, IMO. I have only had to refrain from answering a few. Which is good because I didn't want to spoil you too much.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:54 AM

Well, I am going to call it an early eveing...

DolAmroth

12-09-2003, 01:59 AM

you said theres only one long row of archers well in this pics theres 2 rows. Because just one row of men wouldnt seem to be enough to last the whole night.

http://homepage.mac.com/elwen/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-08-19%2002.15.42%20-0700/Image-197DA02DD22511D7.jpg

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 02:11 AM

Hmmm...

The scene that really sticks in my mind that tells me one long row is the scene where Gandalf rode up the stairs on Shadowfax and there was just one long row of archers.

I'll make a phone call tomorrow and try to get a definite answer.

I'll get back to you on that DA, ASAP.

ILOVEKATIE

12-09-2003, 02:27 AM

Hey JEDI......first, thank you for taking your time and answering so many questions, thats very cool of you.
I have a question, is it true that the shot/sequence of Arwen laying on bed looking very pale was cut from the film?( the shot of her from the trailers)

Also, did the scene inside the Crack of Doom with Frodo ,Sam, and Gollum had a great impact, did it reach a great climax so to speak?

Nuke

12-09-2003, 03:22 AM

Couple questions...

1.) How realistic is Elrond's ride to Edoras? Does the pacing of the film give you the feeling that it's believable for him to ride that far of a distance in that short of a time, or is it very "Elves at Helms Deepish"?

2.) Is the way the cutting of the Gandalf vs. Wiki confrontation setup in such a way to lead us to believe it was filmed and will be in the EE? Do you think it will still happen at the gate, after Grond breaks through? The chance of him being on a horseback is about 0%?

3.) Same as question two, except this time involving Galadriel's Narration during the Epilogue.

4.) Tell us what you think about the Eowyn vs. Wiki confrontation. Was it the highlight of the film? Did it come off as cheesy or unbelievable?

Midnight

12-09-2003, 04:47 AM

The question regarding the music was interesting. "Ride of the Rohirim" underscores that particular scene? Damn shame, since I always thought that piece was lacking in speed and length!

DarkPhoenix646

12-09-2003, 12:42 PM

does the sword Merry uses to stab the WK burn away?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:14 PM

First off this is for DA:

DA the positions of the archers atop the main wall are as follows:

2 rows atop on both sides of the gate. As the levels go up, the archers thin to one row of archers. Also on some of the levels in the corners there are these small type catapults, that two gondorian soldiers operate.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
Hey JEDI......first, thank you for taking your time and answering so many questions, thats very cool of you.
I have a question, is it true that the shot/sequence of Arwen laying on bed looking very pale was cut from the film?( the shot of her from the trailers)

Also, did the scene inside the Crack of Doom with Frodo ,Sam, and Gollum had a great impact, did it reach a great climax so to speak?

1) I thought I saw that in there...

2) It had an amazing impact.

PsYkOoOoO

12-09-2003, 01:19 PM

When i read the book...

during the part when the black gates and the tower of barad dur collaspes ive always pictured it like the scene from Armageddon when the tip of the building falls towers the camera...is it similar?

Spy-Of-Saruman

12-09-2003, 01:20 PM

Does Faramir tell Gandalf that Gollum was leading Frodo and Sam?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Nuke
Couple questions...

1.) How realistic is Elrond's ride to Edoras? Does the pacing of the film give you the feeling that it's believable for him to ride that far of a distance in that short of a time, or is it very "Elves at Helms Deepish"?

2.) Is the way the cutting of the Gandalf vs. Wiki confrontation setup in such a way to lead us to believe it was filmed and will be in the EE? Do you think it will still happen at the gate, after Grond breaks through? The chance of him being on a horseback is about 0%?

3.) Same as question two, except this time involving Galadriel's Narration during the Epilogue.

4.) Tell us what you think about the Eowyn vs. Wiki confrontation. Was it the highlight of the film? Did it come off as cheesy or unbelievable?

1) I would agree with "elves at helms deepish." Though it was still a good scene.

2) Oh yeah. There was a quick little part I remember where one of the orcs is talking to the WiKi and the orcs says "what of the wizard...?" Wiki says "I'll handle him..."

0% chance of horseback.

3) Yeah, it could easily be put in.

4) It was amzaing, Hey don't forget Merry is there also.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by DarkPhoenix646
does the sword Merry uses to stab the WK burn away?

No, because he had a sword when he went to the black gate...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
When i read the book...

during the part when the black gates and the tower of barad dur collaspes ive always pictured it like the scene from Armageddon when the tip of the building falls towers the camera...is it similar?

You have to see that for yourself... :)

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
Does Faramir tell Gandalf that Gollum was leading Frodo and Sam?

I think he does, I don't recall seeing it on screen.

PsYkOoOoO

12-09-2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
You have to see that for yourself... :)

OOO..Morpheus....

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 01:34 PM

That's all for now...

More later.

Real quick: Did everyone see the annoucement? The 10th of December will be the last day for questions. I want you guys to go in without too much spoilers

downflow311

12-09-2003, 01:35 PM

i've already been completely spoiled. but its such a different experience reading about it, and then seeing it.

Barrett

12-09-2003, 01:42 PM

i got a couple more questions here.

1) Is Gimli the comic relief, and does he kick ass in battle?

2) Who's was your favourite performance?

UnicornBlood3

12-09-2003, 02:29 PM

I don't think this has been asked but I need to know! It's been bugging me terribly...

Does someone say, "The eagles are coming!"? God I hope they do because that is one of my favorite lines!

downflow311

12-09-2003, 02:31 PM

Gimli is once again the comic releif but i heard its timed better in ROTK.

KenM

12-09-2003, 02:33 PM

Is the Frodo in the crack of doom scene shot at the same kind of camera angles/ shots that the Elround/ Islidur Mt. Doom scene had in FotR?

tman662000

12-09-2003, 03:05 PM

Does Merry stab the witchking right before he delivers his final blow on Eowyn like in the book?? It would be cool if Merry was shown to have saved Eowyn's life.

AXLPendergast

12-09-2003, 05:13 PM

On the soundtrack, a statement of the Caradhras/Moria Gate theme plays at the end of Track 6, "Minas Morgul." Why is this?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Barrett
i got a couple more questions here.

1) Is Gimli the comic relief, and does he kick ass in battle?

2) Who's was your favourite performance?

1) This first one is a great question: Gimli does provide some comic relief, but it is NOT over done. He is one FIERCE FIGHTING DWARF.

2) Sam

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by UnicornBlood3
I don't think this has been asked but I need to know! It's been bugging me terribly...

Does someone say, "The eagles are coming!"? God I hope they do because that is one of my favorite lines!

Yes

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by KenM
Is the Frodo in the crack of doom scene shot at the same kind of camera angles/ shots that the Elround/ Islidur Mt. Doom scene had in FotR?

There are similarites, then also there are some different angles.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by tman662000
Does Merry stab the witchking right before he delivers his final blow on Eowyn like in the book?? It would be cool if Merry was shown to have saved Eowyn's life.

Yes, Merry gets two stabs in the leg of the WiKi, the second stabs distracts the WiKi long enough for Eowyn to get her most AWESOME FREAKIN KILLER BLOW.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by AXLPendergast
On the soundtrack, a statement of the Caradhras/Moria Gate theme plays at the end of Track 6, "Minas Morgul." Why is this?

I guess it was just a reused theme, the trek through Minas Morgul had the same feeling as the scene where the fellowship was making the pass through Caradhras. So I guess you can consider it Deja Vu...

Kaluza

12-09-2003, 06:27 PM

How do you feel the Oscars will treat this movie?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Kaluza
How do you feel the Oscars will treat this movie?

Wow... That is a tough one. In my heart, I believe they will reward it. Although in my mind, I am prepared for disapointment.

There three things working against LOTR:

1) It is a blockbuster film.

2) It is a fantasy film

3) It uses SFX...

The academy hates that.

Elessar504

12-09-2003, 06:31 PM

JEDI:

Do you remeber the first leaked trailer that begins with a hand and the one ring?

We will see this "hand" and who is this ring-bearer?

The Darkness

12-09-2003, 06:32 PM

its pretty much already been said that best picture will go to that stupid movie Monster with Charlize Theron. Ebart and Robert has said it is the best movie they have seen in a very long time and the Oscar people would be crazy not to give it best picture.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by Elessar504
JEDI:

Do you remeber the first leaked trailer that begins with a hand and the one ring?

We will see this "hand" and who is this ring-bearer?

Yeah, you're speaking of the leaked dvd preview.

Yeah, the hand belongs to either Deagol or Smeagol in the flashback, I forget which one, I think it was deagol who found it first.

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-09-2003, 06:35 PM

Be back later...

adt100

12-09-2003, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Wow... That is a tough one. In my heart, I believe they will reward it. Although in my mind, I am prepared for disapointment.

There three things working against LOTR:

1) It is a blockbuster film.

2) It is a fantasy film

3) It uses SFX...

The academy hates that.

True, but need I mention Titanic and Gladiator, both of which cover 2 of those 3 points. ;)

Glordreen

12-09-2003, 07:06 PM

It will win, the academy must reward it or people will disgrace the academy as stupid people who cant see the best film when its right infront of them, and there ratings will drop dramatically.

IT WILL WIN! But even if it somehow does not it will still be the best film ever created!

Steve125

12-09-2003, 10:41 PM

Hey, this is for JEDI whenever he gets back. I don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but have you listened to the soundtrack since you've seen ROTK? Did seeing the movie change the way you felt about the soundtrack in any way?

Gandollum

12-09-2003, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by The Darkness
its pretty much already been said that best picture will go to that stupid movie Monster with Charlize Theron. Ebart and Robert has said it is the best movie they have seen in a very long time and the Oscar people would be crazy not to give it best picture.

I wouldnt believe them. I remember how Ebert hated Gladiator so much and thought it shouldnt win but guess what, it did. And another thing, the academy rarely gives best pic awards to independent films. Im pretty sure ROTK has a pretty good chance of winning. I cant really thing of anything that will actually be better and this year has actually been a pretty weak year in oscar quality films.

Brandy

12-09-2003, 11:12 PM

Thank you for the reply. Another Merry question . . in the pictures we've seen of Aragorn and company leaving for the Black Gates . . you can clearly see Pippin riding with Gandalf. Who does Merry ride with?

Thanks.

Samwise Gamwich

12-09-2003, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
I think he does, I don't recall seeing it on screen.

Perhaps it is 'implied'.... I know I will be looking for resolution of this bit next week also

Samwise Gamwich

12-09-2003, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE

* S * N * I * P *

The academy hates that.

well **** the 'academy'.....

They don't have a clue anyway!

Samwise Gamwich

12-09-2003, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by Glordreen
IT WILL WIN! But even if it somehow does not it will still be the best film ever created!

And with that I whole heartedly agree.....

DolAmroth

12-09-2003, 11:21 PM

thats cause the academy is stupid most of the time.

Queen Arwen

12-10-2003, 12:05 AM

Actually, most of the Oscar buzz I've been hearing has pinned BP to either ROTK, Cold Mountain, or Mystic River. Those three keep coming up...

Jedi, before I forget, let me thank you for being so patient and understanding of all of our inquisitiveness. I really appreciate it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Anyway, I've already been out-spoilered by you and various other sources, but I have a really personal question:
Did you cry? And where?

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-10-2003, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by Steve125
Hey, this is for JEDI whenever he gets back. I don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but have you listened to the soundtrack since you've seen ROTK? Did seeing the movie change the way you felt about the soundtrack in any way?

I loved the soundtrack when I first heard it, I love it even more now that I have seen the film...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-10-2003, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Brandy
Thank you for the reply. Another Merry question . . in the pictures we've seen of Aragorn and company leaving for the Black Gates . . you can clearly see Pippin riding with Gandalf. Who does Merry ride with?

Thanks.

I believe it was Eomer, he was in the back...

JEDI_THE_WHITE

12-10-2003, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
Actually, most of the Oscar buzz I've been hearing has pinned BP to either ROTK, Cold Mountain, or Mystic River. Those three keep coming up...

Jedi, before I forget, let me thank you for being so patient and understanding of all of our inquisitiveness. I really appreciate it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Anyway, I've already been out-spoilered by you and various other sources, but I have a really personal question:
Did you cry? And where?

Yes, I tried my best to hold it all in and I did pretty well untill Annie Lennox's song began. That's when I could not hold it any longer.