Return of the King Oscar/Awards thread

[Glordreen]

Ther'yre giving the nominees their plaques so they should announce the winner pretty soon.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Keep us posted Capt.

[Queen Arwen]

*fingers crossed* Oh please, oh please, please!

[Kerry from Cali]

damn this wait!!!

i'm literally sitting on my hands, i'm so excited. (this does tend to make typing much more difficult, but i'm coping. )

let's go pete! :)

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[Glordreen]

PJ has won the DGA!!!!!!!:applaud: :applaud:


Aboslutely nothing can stop ROTK!

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rogue Program]

Congratulations Peter. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

The oscars can't get here soon enough!!!

[The Moose]

YAY!!!!! GO PJ
GO ROTK!!!

[adt100]

:applaud:

[Smeagol]

It is a fine achievement for PJ. :applaud: Hopefully the Oscar will come, too, although Sofia Coppola is apparently hot on PJ's heels.

[Rizor]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040208/capt.cacp11702080720.director_awards_cacp117.jpg

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[Kerry from Cali]

Rizor, you rock! thanks for posting the pics. :)

[Queen Arwen]

We got the DGA, we got the DGA, we got the DGA, hey hey hey hey!!! Congratulations, PJ!

[Kerry from Cali]

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
We got the DGA, we got the DGA, we got the DGA, hey hey hey hey!!! Congratulations, PJ!

*hands Arwen an old set of pom-poms*

you *go* girly! ;)

[FinlandCat]

Oh, im so happy for Peter:). Now we just have to wait until the Oscars;).

[Glordreen]

Best Director this year, is the surest thing in history. No one can beat PJ! absolutely no one! Best Picture is also a sure thing.


ROTK for the sweep!

[darthspielberg]

i agree, Glordreen!

[Queen Arwen]

Well, there's a throwback to TTT tonight! Howard Shore's up for the Grammy in Score Soundtrack for TTT, so keep your fingers crossed! He's up against John Williams--Catch Me If You Can, Philip Glass--The Hours, Seabiscuit, and John Williams--Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. Forgot who composed the score for Seabiscuit. Anyway, go Howard!!!

[PsYkOoOoO]

Yikes,the DGA awards is really good looking...

Did you guys know that since 1949,only 6 movies went home empty handed without an oscar statue after winning the DGA awards?

[flukeman]

Woohoo! Howard Shore won the Grammy for TTT :)

[PsYkOoOoO]

Awesome.

[Smeagol]

The media smear campaigns starting already? :(

On Matt Drudge's nationally-syndicated radio show last night, he was interviewing Fox's Roger Friedman about the Grammy Awards. At the end of the piece, he made disparaging remarks about LOTR and how he was disappointed Peter Jackson won the DGA. "I guess that means it'll probably win the Oscar," he sighed. He says he can't imagine anyone over the age of 5 will watch the Oscars because no one over that age likes the movie.

Later, when discussing Mel Gibson's "The Passion," Drudge says he saw a rough cut of the film and that, "it's an adult film, for adults, not like that excruciating Lord of the Rings ... I sat through that, it was horrible, that's a film for retards." (That's the actual word he used -- "retards.") He added: "I can't see how anyone with brains could like that 'stupid garbage', etc, etc..."

Matt Drudge is a total slimeball. Just a heads-up -- Don't be surprised if he takes his gutter campaign on-line any time soon. It's his raison d'etre.

[adt100]

That guy sounds like a complete and utter arrogant, egotistical, closed-minded, immature, churlish prat!

How come you get to hear this interview Smeagol, being that your in the UK?

[Necross]

Originally posted by Smeagol
The media smear campaigns starting already? :(

On Matt Drudge's nationally-syndicated radio show last night, he was interviewing Fox's Roger Friedman about the Grammy Awards. At the end of the piece, he made disparaging remarks about LOTR and how he was disappointed Peter Jackson won the DGA. "I guess that means it'll probably win the Oscar," he sighed. He says he can't imagine anyone over the age of 5 will watch the Oscars because no one over that age likes the movie.

Later, when discussing Mel Gibson's "The Passion," Drudge says he saw a rough cut of the film and that, "it's an adult film, for adults, not like that excruciating Lord of the Rings ... I sat through that, it was horrible, that's a film for retards." (That's the actual word he used -- "retards.") He added: "I can't see how anyone with brains could like that 'stupid garbage', etc, etc..."

Matt Drudge is a total slimeball. Just a heads-up -- Don't be surprised if he takes his gutter campaign on-line any time soon. It's his raison d'etre.


ROFL WHAT A FRIGGIN MORON! He must not know that its making nearly 400 dollars already. I think he is the only retard around considering he is one of the few people who doesn't like it.

[Necross]

Does he have an email address or anything so we can send hate mail! :)

[Elessar504]

Sorry Guys:waa: :waa:



SEABISCUIT TRUMPS RINGS AT CINEMATOGRAPHY AWARDS

American epic SEABISCUIT has surprisingly beaten OSCAR favourite THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING to claim the top prize at this year's (04) AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CINEMATOGRAPHERS awards.

The TOBEY MAGUIRE-starring drama beat competition from PETER JACKSON's fantasy epic and sea adventure MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD to scoop the Best Camera Work prize for cinematographer JOHN SCHWARTZMAN.

Schwartzman was visibly stunned by the honour at Sunday's (8FEB04) ceremony and told the audience the movie was "the ride of a lifetime".

Seabiscuit was a surprise inclusion on the ACADEMY AWARDS shortlist for this year's (04) Best Film, pushing out hot favourite COLD MOUNTAIN.

It will compete with Master and Commander, LOST IN TRANSLATION, Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King and MYSTIC RIVER on 29 February (04) at Los Angeles' KODAK THEATER.



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[darthspielberg]

It's Okay.

It's the first major award ROTK was nominated for and did not win.

and as for that guy. He can hate the movie all he wants. Free Rights you know, but as for calling us "retards" he deserves to be verbally stoned by all self-respecting LOTR fans!

[Necross]

Oh well LOTR will win at the Academy Awards

[darthspielberg]

amen

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by adt100
That guy sounds like a complete and utter arrogant, egotistical, closed-minded, immature, churlish prat!

How come you get to hear this interview Smeagol, being that your in the UK?

I didn't hear the interview myself: I got the information from oscarwatch.com. :) I thought I would paste the idiotic quotes in this thread, for all to see.

[Rizor]

Academy Awards Luncheon was today.

The 5 Nominated Directors
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Group Photo
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Howard and Annie
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Peter

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[RebelwithaCause]

Very nice pics to see...I like the pic of all the directors together. Very nicely done.

[The Moose]

nice pics. ya can tell from the directors pic that some of them don't really like having their photo taken

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by darthspielberg
It's Okay.

It's the first major award ROTK was nominated for and did not win.

It wasnt a major award. Its only Cinematography. Besides ROTK isnt nomed for Cinematography at the Oscas, so a win here would do it nothing.

[Glordreen]

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[Queen Arwen]

That's true, Glordreen...but it still hurts that ROTK lost a major award outside the Oscars. I had considered Cinematography a lock, and as I've said before, I am still hurt by the fact that Andrew Lesnie wasn't nominated. :waa: And now this! But on the bright side: 3 weeks until the Oscars!!!

I really like those pics from the Oscar luncheon. Very genial. :D

[Queen Arwen]

And those new FYC ads are incredible. I'm thinking, though, that they could use practically any shot from ROTK for the Art Direction ad! Every scene was beautiful and breathtaking. That shot of Arwen for Costume Design was beautiful...almost a classic pose. And that shot of Sam with Elanor is just heartbreaking...captures the essence of ROTK perfectly. But my favorite has got to be the Variety ad--clever!

[PsYkOoOoO]

I like the Variety poster.

[Andrey83]

when excactly is the oscars?

[PsYkOoOoO]

Erm.3 Sundays from now.Last Sunday of February,American time.

[Andrey83]

thanks m8!

[darthspielberg]

I love FYC ads

[Lothenon]

they could use practically any shot from ROTK for the Art Direction ad! Every scene was beautiful and breathtaking.

Yeah. Close-Up Shot of Frodo right after he was stabbed by Shelob. Beautiful. :D

[evenstar]

Loving the Theoden and Eowyn FYC poster, nice to see some of the other actors faces appearing on posters.
Can anyone else tell me who the nominations are in best Costume Design? Much appraciated if you could.

[flukeman]

Thanks for all the ads Glordreen! They're beautiful - the one of Sam and Elanor choked me up :)

[flukeman]

Originally posted by evenstar
Loving the Theoden and Eowyn FYC poster, nice to see some of the other actors faces appearing on posters.
Can anyone else tell me who the nominations are in best Costume Design? Much appraciated if you could.

Dien van Straalen - Girl with a Pearl Earring
Ngila *****on - The Last Samurai
Ngila *****on and Richard Taylor - The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Wendy Stites - Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Judianna Makovsky - Seabiscuit

EDIT: Apparently Ngila's last name is comprised of a dirty word :)

[Glordreen]

Add Will Farrel to the presenters list at the Oscars.


So this is what the full list of presenters is at the Oscars so far:

Steve Spielberg
Tom Hanks
Nicole Kidman
Catherine Zeta-Jones
Renee Zellweger
Colin Farrell
Oprah Winfrey
Will Smith
Jack Black
Will Farrell

[Glordreen]

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[Queen Arwen]

Originally posted by Lothenon
Yeah. Close-Up Shot of Frodo right after he was stabbed by Shelob. Beautiful. :D

Well, not beautiful in the strictly aesthetically pleasing way...but certainly haunting. Haunting can definitely be beautiful.

[Queen Arwen]

These are visual feasts, Glordreen! Just keep posting them--they're lovely! I especially like the one of King Elessar for Best Adapted Screenplay and also the one with all the different critics' opinions.

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

I said it before and I'll say it again:

I think it would be really cool if Steven Spielberg presents BEST DIRECTOR to Peter Jackson.

[The Moose]

i said something like this before, so i'll say something like it again

that will be cool. 2 of the greatest directors of our tiem together. damn good

[Andrey83]

Yea i would love that.

[Glordreen]

Your welcome guys. I just keep posting the ads as I see them. Hpefully there are still more to come.

[Glordreen]

Here is an article from a guy on TORC. A few reporters from Variety and other places, sat down with the SAG nominees for Ensemble for a Q&A session. Here is the Q&A session with the LOTR cast.

So I managed, through some surprising, out of the blue luck, to get invited to a SAG Q&A with the dudes mentioned above. It took place at the Arclight in Hollywood.

Most of the things that were related y'all have probably heard before, through other reports or interviews, but there were a couple tidbits that were interesting. Here's a quick summary of them (I can elaborate if folks want):

- The first thing the moderator (a guy from Variety) said was about MYSTIC RIVER's "no special effects" campaign, which he felt wasn't very fair -- PJ agreed (though very politely) and the audience (actors and their invitees) resoundingly applauded.

- They were commenting on the first scene they shot, of the hobbits crouching under the log while the black rider searches for them. Dom was saying he thought PJ had planned that, planned to work a lot of scenes with all the hobbits early, but PJ said that was not the original plan -- he had wanted to start off at Bag End with the scenes between the Sir Ians, but McKellan couldn't be cast if they stuck to this original plan, as he was still filming X-MEN. So they had to move all his scenes 3 months later and ended up doing a lot of the 4 hobbits' scenes together.

John Rhys-Davies (who arrived a little later than the rest, as he was working), made the first of several confessions that he originally didn't care for the book much. Back the '60s, all his classmates were raving about it, and he said he had a pompous attitude towards English literature: he didn't believe anything contemporary could be any good. "If it's written after 1836 it's rubbish!"

Talking about Gimli, John mused that he's now been typecast, and the only parts left for him are "little dwarves in German porno films" (much laughter). A note about the sizes of the actors: PJ commented that they did shrinking tests and found out that large people (6' and above) simply don't look realistic when they're shrunk down -- something intangible is off. He had already said how he basically was casting "nice people" because of the length of the shoot, and now embellished that comment that he was looking for "nice people between 5'5" and 5'7". For those of you who've seen the hobbits in people, it's actually striking how they're all a similar height.

Sean Astin popped in and said how invariably when he meets people in real life they always say "You're so much taller in real life" (much laughter), except of course when he meets kids, who are expecting to meet a real hobbit and who look profoundly disappointed when they see he's just a normal-sized dude. (more laughter)

The moderator asked PJ about his distinctive style, especially his love of close-ups. PJ said "actor's faces are where the story gets told" (appreciative and enthusiastic applause from the SAG people, natch). He also pointed out he doesn't like using profile 2-shots, and avoids them whenever he can, as he really likes to be able to see both eyes.

John Rhys-Davies suffers from First Viewing Syndrome! He said the first time he's seen all three films he's been disappointed somehow -- and that he felt they were almost too overwhelming for a first viewing; and he commented how second (and third and fourth) viewings are the ones that are most delightful for him.

PJ made another interesting comment regarding editing and objectivity. He pointed out (quite correctly) that when you're stuck in post with a film, you lose all objectivity -- but that with ROTK he was able to gain some of this back, because when he finally sat down to view dailies and start assembling a rough cut, he actually couldn't remember exactly which angles he'd shot -- so he was able to really view it with a fresh eye. (As an aside, he told that bit about how he's always wanted to be hypotized once he's gotten a fine cut, so he doesn't know he made the film and can be truly objective -- and he said a hypotist from San Francisco had actually contacted him and offered to do it for free sometime).

Onto the topic of DVDs: PJ said he's always thought it would be cool to have "actor's cuts" of films as well, and he mentioned that while nothing is in place, he'd like to put out another special edition when HD-DVDs become popular -- he said it'd be a real "filmmaker documentary version", showing deleted scenes, talking about why they'd been cut, blooper reels, audition tapes -- getting into the nitty-gritty of the actual production itself. He also confirmed the ROTK:EE running time at 4:10 (he just finished it, apparently) and said there's a funny easter egg on the ROTK DVD when Elijah is doing live-via-satellite PR interviews from NY with reporters in Berlin, and how Dom pretended to be a German reporter and started asking the most unusual questions. (Come to think of it, he didn't say if this would be on the regular or EE version of the ROTK DVD; my guess is the EE).

John talked about the tragedy of the constraint of time; how so much stuff was cut, and then said "but the real tragedy was Sean not getting nominated" (enthusiastic applause and general agreement from the SAG folks). Sean was very polite and deferred but said that while individual Oscars are something all actors dream about, the award he REALLY wanted was the SAG Ensemble, because they were all so much of a team it would feel weird to be singled out. He jokingly said that was his little shill for the evening, and the moderator commented how important and wonderful it was to have an award like that for films like this, where everyone does a great job but because of the nature of the story no real character stands out as separate. The moderator said this is due to the director -- applause but PJ deferred, saying he had such great actors he felt he didn't really have to do much. John interrupted and spent a few minutes talking up PJ -- he said it's been his experience that the mood of a set invariably is dictated by the mood of the director. He talked about how focused and collaborative PJ was, how he never lost his temper, how he created a fabulous working environment for the actors. He said he's never experienced anything like it, of everyone uniting and marching to the beat of the same drum. More applause.

Questions from the audience:
"Are you shooting THE HOBBIT in secret and calling it KING KONG?" Much laughter. John jumped in and said when they did reshoots this summer and fall, the first day back all the actors started off the day walking around like monkeys, hooting and hollering. (Dom, indignant, said that was the way he normally walked.)

"Did the final result match your original vision?" (directed at PJ) He said "No", in large part because at the beginning he hadn't seen the design work of the sets, didn't have actors cast, etc, though he pointed out he's been working on it so long he can't remember what his original vision was... he keeps adding bits and pieces to it.

Someone asked about favorite acting scenes and Sean and Elijah talked about their bit together on the slopes of Mt. Doom. Sean talked about how much time he ended up investing in Sam; he said as an actor he ends up taking bits from your own life and incorporating them into Sam, so he essentially felt he had become Sam. He said that he had singled that scene out from the beginning, as soon as he read the script, but somehow he always felt the big moment would be when he picked Elijah up. He was re-reading the script pages the night before and suddenly realized "how breathtakingly beautiful and poetic" his lines were just before, and that by the time they got around to filming it, he had invested enough time slogging around in Sam that "a zipper opened in my soul". (great quote)

PJ pointed out some practical concerns: they were running out of daylight for that scene and really had to hurry, so he ended up using 2 cameras for the scene, one on each actor -- and Sean pointed out how liberating that felt as a actor.

I can't remember exactly how, but the question of getting the films greenlit came up, and PJ said that they were responsible for SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE. Back before the project really got off the crowd, Universal was interested in having PJ do KING KONG, and Miramax was developing LOTR. The two studios were interested in merging projects and resources in a sort of co-partnership, but Harvey thought he was getting the bad end of the deal because he was essentially giving Universal 2 films and getting only one in return. Universal was developing SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE and Harvey demanded the rights to that -- which he got, as a way of evening the deal.

The tatoo question came up: PJ talked a bit about him getting talked into getting a "10" tatoo, but he said Mark Ordesky (!) and Barrie Osborne (!!) also got them, and how they were getting tatooed on the first day of FOTR's release in North America, and how he remembered sitting in the tatoo parlor, getting worked on, and seeing Mark Ordesky getting tatooed and getting phone calls about the early grosses at the same time.

Overall, it was a great evening, and they're clearly a great bunch of guys. You could tell, in a way, this was another performance by them (all PR is, really) -- they were putting on an improv show and had honed it over time through constant repetition. What also struck me was how appreciative the audience was -- yes, obviously they were all fans to a degree (and certainly not all of them were SAG actors), but it felt more like a fan convention at times: these industry people really liked these days and the films they'd made. So there's hope for the Ensemble Award and some good results from the Academy acting wing!

[flukeman]

Great stuff Glordreen, thanks for posting!

[Smeagol]

M&C has swept the UK Film Critics' Awards and ROTK didn't win a single trophy.

How many was ROTK nominated for with the UK Film Critics? :confused:

[Glordreen]

????

I forgot about the London film ciritcs. At least we know that Master and Commander is getting nothing at the Oscars. the only award I see it winning is Sound Editing.

[RebelwithaCause]

I saw that...and I don't like it...I smell a possibilty for people to try for an upset...grr....lets just wait and see at the BAFTA's this weekend. If M&C wins, I'll scream....lol....

[Glordreen]

This is just th London film critics. nothing to be worried about.

[Queen Arwen]

Yes, the BAFTAs are a better gauge.

[The Moose]

i did one thing when i read this. i laughed. and i'm still laughing at it.

[Glordreen]

Add Jude Law to the presenters list.

[Glordreen]

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[Kashmir]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Here is an article from a guy on TORC. A few reporters from Variety and other places, sat down with the SAG nominees for Ensemble for a Q&A session. Here is the Q&A session with the LOTR cast.

Very cool. Thanks for posting it! :)

[Andrey83]

take a look at aragorns sword... it is a single handed sword.... The "real" sword that he gets from elrond is two handed...

[Necross]

I see what your saying, the picture with just Aragorn shows the handle as being extremely small, but look at it in the pic of them Marching out of Minas Tirith.

[Glordreen]

From TORN



ROTK Picks Up NME Award
2/12/04, 6:31 pm EST - Xoanon

Zoe writes: It looks like ROTK won "Film of the Year" award from the UK magazine, NME. Billy Boyd accepted the award. "Ahead of anticipated Oscar glory, 'Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King' was NME Film Of The Year. Billy Boyd, the Hobbit hero Pippin in the movie, picked up the gong from Sadie Frost."

[Glordreen]

Here's another FYC ad for Visual Effects.


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[The Moose]

like that one of the Oliphaunts and Frodo and Shelob. both very yummy

[stargoddess]

Thanks for posting these ads! They're great--and not the usual stuff.

[Queen Arwen]

The first word that popped into my mind after stumbling upon Frodo with Shelob behind was, "Whoa!" Who could beat that?

[The Moose]

andrey- the thing with Narsil and Andruil is that they had a hilt large enough to be held with 2 hands, but still allowed enough control to be used with one hand. so it is the same one that was given to him by Elrond

[stargoddess]

actually, in looking at the two pictures of the sword, the one in Aragorn's hand looks like it has a very short hilt (notice the crosspieces just above his grip), vs the usual one. I can't imagine him using a different sword than Anduril, but it looks very weird.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Very nice posters.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by The Moose
andrey- the thing with Narsil and Andruil is that they had a hilt large enough to be held with 2 hands, but still allowed enough control to be used with one hand. so it is the same one that was given to him by Elrond

I think they might have used different swords or something, because if you look at the first teaser poster for ROTK then aragorn is holding the short version, then a coupple of days later they altered it to the lang version of the sword. They might have done a mistake in the beginning and then altered it later. Then they might have edited some of the shots digitally... But they looks to have forgotten about this one :)

I'm sure the sword on those two pics posted is not the same sword...

[PsYkOoOoO]

Audrey,the short in the teaser poster was shorted so that the hilt can fit into the poster.The magic of technology.

[Andrey83]

Nope, dont think you understand here. You can see it in the picture. It is a one handed sword there. It is not two handed. Yes i know that anduil is two handed, yes i know it is in the movie too. But in this picture it is one handed

[Smeagol]

Excellent pics! :applaud:

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Andrey83
Nope, dont think you understand here. You can see it in the picture. It is a one handed sword there. It is not two handed. Yes i know that anduil is two handed, yes i know it is in the movie too. But in this picture it is one handed

Oh...I thought u were refering to the teaser poster...

[Andrey83]

No harm done :) I can see now that i didnt put it in a good way...

[flukeman]

I think the photo in question looks like a promotional shot - not from the movie. Someone probably just gave him a sword and said "pretend you're charging". IMO.

[Smeagol]

ROTK has picked up 13 Saturn nominations, whatever they are. :confused: Of note, we have SIX nominations for acting: Otto, Mortensen, Wood, Astin, McKellan and Serkis. :applaud: Hopefully Miranda or Serkis can win their categories! :D

[PsYkOoOoO]

Awesome news Smeagol.:)

[Glordreen]

Reminder:

The BAFTA's are this Sunday. They are televised on BBC America. ROTK has 12 nominations.

[Andrey83]

What are saturn?

[Glordreen]

Saturns are a small group. There awards mean absolutely nothing. Most people dont know they exist.

[Andrey83]

But befta means something :) I sure hope ROTK takes them all!

Too bad about the saturn, since we finally got some acting nom...

[adt100]

Don't be too surprised if Cold Mountain picks up the Best Picture from BAFTA.

[Glordreen]

Dont expect for ROTK to win easily. The BAFTA's may choose something else since they have already awarded Best Film to FOTR. I still pick ROTK to win though.

[Kerry from Cali]

i just ordered the BBC America channel in my area. i'll get to watch the bafta's now. it says it's on at 1:00 pm (PST) then repeated again later that night.

i can't wait. :)

[Andrey83]

ahh.. Kelly, I should enjoyed to watch it myself... Jaleuox :)

[Glordreen]

add Charlize Theron and Jim Carrey to the presenters list.

[Smeagol]

It would be a touch embarrassing if ROTK fails to win the big prize. :o

[stargoddess]

here's what Jeff Wells reported in his column today: (Jeff is NOT a fan!)

Beginning about a week ago, tectonic geological plates underneath Los Angeles were starting to quake and shift over the Academy's majority preference for Best Picture. I could feel it like little temblors -- people were looking to vote for something other than Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, which has been presumed to be a lock for a long time.
But a truly satisfactory alternative doesn't seem to be out there. An Academy member friend is telling me not to get my hopes up. "The problem is that the competitors -- Mystic River, for one -- aren't strong enough to take it out...none of them are strong enough to get people to re-think things and vote one of them in in place of Lord of the Rings." ****...I kind of knew that. I just didn't want to admit it to myself.

[Glordreen]

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[Kerry from Cali]

Glordreen, it's been said before, but it bears repeating...

you rock!!!

[LOTRNUT04]

Originally posted by Glordreen
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i love all these posters that you are posting glordreen, don't stop, just thought I say that I think the aragorn one here is really goofy looking. His sword's (as others stated) hilt is too short, and his face looks ridiculous for a still-image poster. Anyway, thats enough LOTR related complaining.

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by Kerry from Cali
Glordreen, it's been said before, but it bears repeating...

you rock!!!


Thank you :cool:

I will keep posting them, as they keep coming.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Smeagol
It would be a touch embarrassing if ROTK fails to win the big prize. :o

Yes it would and alot of fans and critics would be holding their stomachs from all the humble pie they had to eat.. Lost In Translation is going to get the big upset.. You watch..

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Yes it would and alot of fans and critics would be holding their stomachs from all the humble pie they had to eat.. Lost In Translation is going to get the big upset.. You watch..

If you dislike ROTK so much, why do you stick around the forum?

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Brock Landers
If you dislike ROTK so much, why do you stick around the forum?

Like i said,not welcomed elsewhere.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
Like i said,not welcomed elsewhere.

well is he welcome here? :)

[PsYkOoOoO]

I wont say that he is...

[RebelwithaCause]

As much as I want to see ROTK win, and as much as I'd like to believe that it will, and as much as I don't want to speak utter blasphemy....I have a feeling it won't. The backlash is coming...and you know what? If it occurs...I really won't care. Because, for me, (not to make a Star Wars analogy) if you strike it down, it will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. That is to say, in addition to being remembered as one of the greatest films of all time, many people will look at it and say, "How did Oscar not vote for that?"

[LOTRfan]

Does anyone still have that link to the New Line oscar campaign site for ROTK? I believe it was posted in this thread several weeks ago but I have been unable to find it. It had a page for each nomination with audio and video clips, info, and pictures. Anybody else remember this?

[Lothenon]

http://www.newlineawards.com ?

[adt100]

Originally posted by RebelwithaCause
As much as I want to see ROTK win, and as much as I'd like to believe that it will, and as much as I don't want to speak utter blasphemy....I have a feeling it won't. The backlash is coming...and you know what? If it occurs...I really won't care. Because, for me, (not to make a Star Wars analogy) if you strike it down, it will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. That is to say, in addition to being remembered as one of the greatest films of all time, many people will look at it and say, "How did Oscar not vote for that?"

True. After all, in 10 years time who will honestly remember the likes of Lost in Translation or Mystic River. Conversely, despite its record equalling number of Acdemy Awards, who now really thinks of Titanic as being a 'great' film.

[Smeagol]

I know I change my mind quite a lot on this topic ;) but at the moment I think it is quite unlikely that ROTK will win many awards at the Oscars. :( I can't see ROTK winning Best Picture AND Best Director.

Also, I don't think ROTK will win much tomorrow at the BAFTAs. :(

[pungolo reporte]

and why? boh.

However, last night there were the ADG, art directing guild awards, but I can't find any news about the premiation! Did finally rotk win?!?

[RebelwithaCause]

I was trying to find that out too...but there was nothing on it at oscarwatch.com. Bummer, lol.

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Lothenon
http://www.newlineawards.com ?
haha...thanks. I kept trying newline.com/awards....I was close!

[pungolo reporte]

that's really strange! in the forum of oscarwatch.org nobody know if ROTK has win ADG award!!!

[pungolo reporte]

just said!! ROTK WON!!!

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040215005104&newsLang=en

[RebelwithaCause]

Hell yeah!!!!

[evenstar]

Baftas in a few hours, anyone else watching?

[Kerry from Cali]

i'll be watching!! :)

i had to order some different cable channels just to get it, but it's worth it. ;)

i'm going to pop a tape in, just so i can watch the parts i like again and again and again.

go rotk!

(i wonder who from the cast will be there? it's held in england, isn't it??)

can't wait.

[evenstar]

Well, I know that Ian Mckellen is there and Pj for sure, as they've arrived. I dont think there be anyone else- Its being held in London, British Acadamy like.

[adt100]

According to the news, PJ had brought around 60 people that had worked on the film with him. I noticed McKellen, PJ and Boyd on the red carpet.

Shame it's not on live in the UK and they delay the programme for about 2hours. Only 45 minutes to go though. :)

[evenstar]

I didnt realise it was delayed, does that mean we know the results

[Glordreen]

BAFTA's start in 22 minutes. So if you get BBC america, be watching.

The BAFTAs start at 4pm EST and 1pm PST.

[adt100]

I didnt realise it was delayed, does that mean we know the results

No. I think it starts somewhere between 6pm and 7pm. They delay it until 9.00pm, though I *think* it is usually still going on by then.

They end to edit it to 2hours by cutting out a few of the 'minor' technical awards and such, which are just mentioned at the end in a quick montage ie 'others winners tonight included...'

It would be better if they showed it live, or at least earlier, say 7 or 8pm, especially as most people have to be up early on Monday morning for work!

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by pungolo reporte
just said!! ROTK WON!!!

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040215005104&newsLang=en

Wrong. Baftas havent started yet. and if thr winners had been annouced it would be on OW's main page, and its not. I hope your right though.

[evenstar]

cheers for that adt, I know be much better because stephen normally goes on for a bit.

[Smeagol]

SOME WINNERS ANNOUNCED!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=32767

The SPOILERISH link contains major photographs.

[Smeagol]

.

[adt100]

OK, I don't want to go onto that site Smeagol - please don't give spoilers out - but have the results leaked before the TV show again!?

I remember last year that the results were posted on the BAFTA website as soon as the live show ended, but it hadn't been on TV yet! Kind of spoils the whole thing really. :rolleyes:

[Glordreen]

Forget about this post.

[adt100]

Smeagol!!!!

I haven't read that second post of yours, but when I'd posted my response just caught a glimpse of 3 sad faces. I guess I'd better leave this thread untill I've actually seen the show!

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by adt100
OK, I don't want to go onto that site Smeagol - please don't give spoilers out - but have the results leaked before the TV show again!?

I remember last year that the results were posted on the BAFTA website as soon as the live show ended, but it hadn't been on TV yet! Kind of spoils the whole thing really. :rolleyes:

In the form of photographs, some of the winners have already been leaked. :mad:

[pungolo reporte]

OK LESNIE WON BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY!!!

1-0!!! heheheee

[Glordreen]

the BAFTA's have just started in my area. And I know a lot of the winners have already been announced, so I am gonne stay off the forums for the 2 hours that its on, so I dont get spoiled.

[Elf]

Dont know if it was posted before but ROTK WON THE ADG yesterday in the fantasy category. Mystic River won in the other category. :applaud:

[Elf]

ROTK WINS BEST PICTURE IN THE BAFTAS!!!

It´s over now, here is the full list of the winners:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3486533.stm


Peter didnt won director though :( , but still great for ROTK!! :)

[anaria22]

what're the baftas, and why didn't he win best director!? I have never seen a better director. I would expect it to win best dir. before best pic. Grr...

[pungolo reporte]

BUT.... PJ won in 2001! And, looking at OSCARS, the favourite is him, the important was that didn't win CLINT, who is the major contendent...weir won't win that Oscar!!

however, SHORE didn't win ç_ç ....fortunately he won the globes!!

BEST PICTURE - ROTK
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY - RETURN OF THE KING
AUDIENCE AWARD - RETURN OF THE KING
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY - RETURN OF THE KING
BEST VISUAL EFFECTS - ROTK

[Glordreen]

Just finished wathcing the BAFTA's. and ROTK won!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately PJ didnt win, but hey they had an excuse to give Best Director to someone else, cause PJ won for FOTR. PJ is stil locked to win at the Oscars, and Best Picture has became a steel curtain lock for ROTK. And now ROTK is the frontrunner for Adapted Screenplay, for its win at the BAFTA's!


5 wins for Return of the King! :applaud:

Best Picture
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Cinematography
Best Visual Efects
Audeince Award (People's Choice)

[adt100]

Best Picture!

YES!!! :applaud:


I've been almost dreading the past 2 hours after seeing Smeagol's earlier post, but despite the shock of PJ not winning best director, I'm pretty happy.

BAFTA have a habit of i) spreading the awards out to far more films than AMPAS (who often seem to 'tick all the boxes' for the same film) and ii) trying to be more 'independant' of the Oscars in their voting.

All in all a good day I think. :)

[adt100]

Originally posted by Smeagol
.

BTW Smeagol, now the show is over (exceptin the fellowship award) what was that original post you made with the 3 sad faces? Was it because PJ lost the BD award?

[adt100]

The biggest surprises for me (with regard ROTK) were:

i) PJ not winning BD
ii) ROTK winning adapted screenplay
iii) ROTK not winning best score
iv) ROTK not winning best make-up/hair (how on earth did POTC in that!)
v) ROTK not winning best costume design

I would have thought the more technical awards would have been greater certainties than best film and screenplay.

Having said that, knowing BAFTA I was preparing myself for them to award Cold Mountain Best Picture, so overall I'm pretty happy. 5 awards making ROTK the biggest winner of the night. :D


Oh, and Stephen Fry was great as usual. :D

Right, I'm rambling to myself again ... :o

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by adt100
BTW Smeagol, now the show is over (exceptin the fellowship award) what was that original post you made with the 3 sad faces? Was it because PJ lost the BD award?

I think my post was referring to the fact that PJ was seen in a photo with just the Orange BP award, and nothing else. So I was saddened at the fact that he obviously didn't walk away with Best Director, as well.

However, Peter Weir is a deserving winner - although it is SO embarrassing when someone wins yet doesn't bother showing up to collect their prize. :o

[adt100]

It is, you're right, though at least Bill Murray put a bit of effort in by faxing in an acceptance speech for Sophia Coppola to read.

When they announced the Best Director award I was sure the presenter was about to follow up 'Peter' with 'Jackson'. I think there was a brief, but audible IMO, shock in the audience when Weir was announced winner!

[Glordreen]

Peter Weir is not a threat at all. Jackson has BD locked.

[kylesmile]

I really hope ROTK wins Best Score at the Oscars. The score is a really big part of these movies and should be honored.

I'm certain ROTK will get either BP or BD at the Oscars, if not both.

[PsYkOoOoO]

The biggest threat to ROTK is Lost in Translation IMO...

[The Moose]

well, not quite what i'd hoped, but still, 5 is god. i'm with adt on what he's wondering about, which he mentioned above

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
The biggest thread to ROTK is Lost in Translation IMO...

It is its biggest threat, however it isnt even a threat. BP and BD are locked for ROTK at the Oscars.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I wont be too quick to make those kind of judgements.Hopes are high but not 100%...

[JEDI_THE_WHITE]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
I wont be too quick to make those kind of judgements.Hopes are high but not 100%...

I agree with the Prince. I have high hope, but it is about only 96%. There is that 4% chance.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Glordreen
It is its biggest threat, however it isnt even a threat. BP and BD are locked for ROTK at the Oscars.

Um, that didn't exactly make alot of sense Glordreen.."It is it's biggest threat, however it isn't even a threat"?????:confused: Honey, I think at this point, Lost In Translation has made leaps and bounds since the Golden Globes enough to where ROTK and Jackson are no longer a "LOCK" as you refer to it as.. Nothing is a "LOCK" Not now, not ever at the Academy Awards as seen in the past.. I smell an upset big time at the Oscar's that will be talked about and brewed upon for weeks to come with Translation and Copolla getting the upset.. You'll see...:applaud:

[PsYkOoOoO]

you are 37 years old and you didnt know what Glordreen meant.

He meant,that amongst the threats,the other nominations,Lost in Translation is the BIGGEST threat but however,it is not a threat at all in the sense that,ROTK will definitely win Best Picture.I hope you get it this time..

[Queen Arwen]

:lol: And BKB#1, you might surprised to find out that were anything to upset the steamroller that is ROTK, it would be the winner of the London Film Critics' Association and the BAFTAs, which is Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World. Honestly, you think you know everything.

[Queen Arwen]

However, I must correct my earlier statement. M&C won the London Film Critics' Association for BP and the BAFTA for BD, but ROTK won the BAFTA for BP. The LFCA is nothing to gauge by; the BAFTAs are. And BAFTA decided ROTK.

[pungolo reporte]

well ROTK won the ACE too... the Editors Guild Awards! It won as best feature movie/ drama as best editing. Pirates won as fantasy film!!! ehehehheee

[Queen Arwen]

Bravo, pungolo! Thank you for that bit of info.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
I wont be too quick to make those kind of judgements.Hopes are high but not 100%...
I'm so there with ya, and I also agree that Lost in Trasnlation is ROTK biggest thread.

But anyway, I'm so happy ROTK won Best Pic at BAFTAs, good news!

[ILOVEKATIE]

I think BKB#1 is afraid of ROTK winning Best Pic at the Oscars cause that will mean that LOTR is the first film in Oscar HISTORY that a fantasy film wins Best Pic, something that StarWars couldn't do.:D
Sorry BKB#1..maybe for Episode III, HA!

[Queen Arwen]

:lol: Enough said, ILOVEKATIE!!!

[Glordreen]

Dont listen to BKB. He's a pathetic anti-LOTR troll. All he does is bash LOTR. Seriously, every thread he makes is something that bashes LOTR, every single one of them. He's so afraid that ROTK will take BP and BD, he just gone insane.

I still cant believe some people still deny ROTK's chances. BP and BD are locked people, completely locked. Of course I may be optimistic. But ROTK has won every single major precursor, and I call that..... locked.

[Andrey83]

Glordreen: Didnt win BD at the beftas.... :(

[PsYkOoOoO]

Face the facts,LOTR will become the greatest trilogy ever whether you like it or not.Even if it doesnt beat SW at box office,so what?Whoever said that box office is the exact representation of the greatness of a movie?How many "greatest" movies out there are beyond the top 10 domestic box office?Think about it,box office is only a tiny factor when considering the greatness of a movie.

[TyRoss]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
Face the facts,LOTR will become the greatest trilogy ever whether you like it or not.Even if it doesnt beat SW at box office,so what?Whoever said that box office is the exact representation of the greatness of a movie?How many "greatest" movies out there are beyond the top 10 domestic box office?Think about it,box office is only a tiny factor when considering the greatness of a movie.

OK I'm going to stop you there.

You see wether it's the greatest trilogy of all time or not is really up to the individual. It's a matter of opinion not fact at all.

BKB the same goes for you and the Star Wars trilogy.

We're all diffrent in what we like and hence we all have diffrent ideas on what the greatest is.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Erm,i just expressed my views?Whats wrong.

[Andrey83]

I agree with Tyross here. it is all a matter of opinion. And this "battle" could go on forever.

[TyRoss]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
Erm,i just expressed my views?Whats wrong.

Nothing is wrong with your opinions but please don't express them as fact. By the way that post has nothing to do with modding it's plain old stepping into the argument and putting my two cents in.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Ofcourse it can go on forever, it has been said before, and on that note, GO LOTR!!!:p;)

[PsYkOoOoO]

What did i do wrong?I merely said that box office is not the deciding factor.And i only expressed my views.I did not say that Star Wars is not as good or anything,i just think that greatness,cannot be measured by money.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Oh all right,fine.Just read your post.

[Andrey83]

Greatness can be measured by personal feelings in a way. Hence not facts. but opinions :)

[PsYkOoOoO]

Ah,fine.

[TyRoss]

Exactly it's not so much a question of money or critical acclaim it's more of a popularity contest.

If you were to poll everyone in the world as to which they liked better you get a lot of LOTR lovers and a lot of SW lovers who would vote for their movies but I'm bettin' that you'd get even more that would say "Who cares they're both great".

Which is pretty much where I stand.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Dont listen to BKB. He's a pathetic anti-LOTR troll. All he does is bash LOTR. Seriously, every thread he makes is something that bashes LOTR, every single one of them. He's so afraid that ROTK will take BP and BD, he just gone insane.

I still cant believe some people still deny ROTK's chances. BP and BD are locked people, completely locked. Of course I may be optimistic. But ROTK has won every single major precursor, and I call that..... locked.

All I have to say is that you truly are setting yourself up for a big, big fall and disapointment if you really think this film and director are a "LOCK" cause if you've watched any Academy Award telecast in the past, you would know by now that upsets have occurred Glordreen and it very well could happen here to.. I'd say your way too overly optmistic and that's what blind fanaticism will do to ya.. As far as the BAFTA Awards are concerned: Like ROTK wasn't going to win best picture at the British Academy Awards of all things when half the cast and crew are probably british.. Gee, you think it was fitting to give it to ROTK afterall with that in mind??:rolleyes:

[Andrey83]

They are deffintly not a "lock". There are strong competition. But of cource i sure do hope that they win :)

[Andrey83]

Dont mind my spelling :)

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
I think BKB#1 is afraid of ROTK winning Best Pic at the Oscars cause that will mean that LOTR is the first film in Oscar HISTORY that a fantasy film wins Best Pic, something that StarWars couldn't do.:D
Sorry BKB#1..maybe for Episode III, HA!

Uh, yeah right and looks like history is gonna repeat itself again in 2 weeks when another film beats ROTK out and gives the fans a wake up call to realize that nothing is a "LOCK"... What will the excuse be if ROTK doesn't win Best Picture and Lost In Translation beats it out?? Then what?? I mean, it very well could happen and you can't deny that at this point..

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by BKB#1
I'd say your way too overly optmistic and that's what blind fanaticism will do to ya..


Look who's talking...
:rolleyes:

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
Look who's talking...
:rolleyes:

Looks who's talking about what?? That I think Lost In Translation has a considerable chance at upsetting ROTK for Best Picture?? Logically, it does and has come a long way since the Golden Globes and don't be surprised if it does beat it out..

[PsYkOoOoO]

If you are clever enough you'll know what i meant.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
If you are clever enough you'll know what i meant.

Well I guess this early in the morning, I'm not that clever... Let me get my Starbucks and I'll be ready to go.. In the meantime, elaborate will ya???

[PsYkOoOoO]

I prefer to waste my time elsewhere.Dont you have other forums to invade and irritate?Why dont you post your comments on the TORN boards,they will be very welcomed.

[Andrey83]

This is kinda funny reading :) Though it is WAY OFF TOPIC :(

[pungolo reporte]

what a troll that BKB! O_o well...we can only don't pay attention to that, and call Legolas to do his job ehehhe!

we are all happy because rotk will win, no matter! ^_-

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Andrey83
This is kinda funny reading :) Though it is WAY OFF TOPIC :(

That's the spirit and that's generally the way it turns out...:lol:

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
I prefer to waste my time elsewhere.Dont you have other forums to invade and irritate?Why dont you post your comments on the TORN boards,they will be very welcomed.

Nah, I enjoy this site and I enjoy the posters on here including you you big lug..:hehe: TORN would have a coronary if I showed up there..

[PsYkOoOoO]

But we dont enjoy your presence.So please spread your filth elsewhere thank you very much.

[Smeagol]

BKB, why did you stop posting on the Box Office Mojo forums? Was it because people started to turn on you after it was discovered that you fabricated quotes and attributed them to supposed "anti-LOTR" journalists? :clown:

Come to think of it, I haven't seen you trolling on the Rotten Tomatoes or Oscarwatch forums, for a while, either... :o

[PsYkOoOoO]

Oh,in that case,you are really not welcomed anywhere there.Tragic,isnt it?

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Smeagol
BKB, why did you stop posting on the Box Office Mojo forums? Was it because people started to turn on you after it was discovered that you fabricated quotes and attributed them to supposed "anti-LOTR" journalists? :clown:

Come to think of it, I haven't seen you trolling on the Rotten Tomatoes or Oscarwatch forums, for a while, either... :o

Looks like he's just a suck up for trubble :)

[Smeagol]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=308380

[PsYkOoOoO]

Yeah,go play with your Hulk doll.Hahaa..

[Andrey83]

This one fits very good for BKB!

http://www.slightlywarped.com/forumpictures/finalword/blahblah.gif

[PsYkOoOoO]

Agreed.:funny:

[adt100]

While I agree that ROTK and PJ are the current favourites for the BP and BD at the Oscars (and IMO they both certainly deserve them!), both awards are still not yet a 'lock'.

In years past it would be commonplace for the Best Director and Best Picture awards to go to the same film, but recently this trend has not always been the case.

I hope ROTK will win BD and BP, and there's a very good chance they will, but there's still a chance they won't. I'll be still fairly happy if (as at the BAFTA's), ROTK wins best picture but PJ loses out on director. Admittedly the BD is perhaps a slightly more deserving award than BP given PJ's work over the past 7 years, but the BP is ultimately seen as the 'top' award. :)

[PsYkOoOoO]

You might not be the best director in the list,but if your work is awarded and recognised,i think thats enough.So if it wins Best Picture,to me,PJ won best director as well.

[Glordreen]

THey may not be 100% locked, but ROTK and PJ are the clear frontrunners, and nothing can stop them.

[Mr. Frodo]

i don't know if you guys have seen this but it was oscar night on Larry king and sir Ian mckellen was on it so i stopped right as he was done and Sean Astin was on next, Larry king says " Here is Sean Astin who plays the hobbit Samby GamGEE (like the word key with a g instead of a k) sean looked at him like What did you just say. then half way through the interview sean says "Samwise Gamgee, Samwise Gamgee." Larry king says "thats what i said." :) it was funny.

[RebelwithaCause]

That director snub pisses me off, as well as Ian not winning...but we can't win them all now can we? On that note, congrats ROTK!

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Smeagol
BKB, why did you stop posting on the Box Office Mojo forums? Was it because people started to turn on you after it was discovered that you fabricated quotes and attributed them to supposed "anti-LOTR" journalists? :clown:

Come to think of it, I haven't seen you trolling on the Rotten Tomatoes or Oscarwatch forums, for a while, either... :o

You know this isn't really the place for this conversation. Why dont' the two of you take it up in Pm's. I don't want another Hanson incident on my hands.

Smeagol that goes for you too.

- Ty

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Andrey83
This one fits very good for BKB!

http://www.slightlywarped.com/forumpictures/finalword/blahblah.gif

Nice.. Spoken like a true LOTR fan who only hears what they want to hear and anyone else who has a difference of opinion that goes against popular belief around here gets this treatment.. Sad, very sad..:rolleyes:

[Brock Landers]

Sorry Brock but I edited the original so I'm not gonna let a quote be there either.

[stargoddess]

There is an article in variety that says it best--those that vote for elves and those that can't. Let's hope the Academy is shamed enough that they cannot do anything but vote for ROTK.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by stargoddess
There is an article in variety that says it best--those that vote for elves and those that can't. Let's hope the Academy is shamed enough that they cannot do anything but vote for ROTK.

Right.. Let's hope..

[The Moose]

something that was on the NZ news

Stephen Regulous, the guy who developed MASSIVE, won an "oscar" for his achievement with that. it was given at the Scientific and Technical Awards which i think were held last night. a branch of AMPAS (the people who vote for who wins the Oscars on the 29th). during the ceremony on the 29th, as always, there'll be a wee bit where they show who won what at the sci+tech awards

[Glordreen]

Here's an article from an anti LOTR film critic.

Beginning about a week ago, tectonic geological plates underneath Los Angeles were starting to quake and shift over the Academy's majority preference for Best Picture. I could feel it like little temblors -- people were looking to vote for something other than Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, which has been presumed to be a lock for a long time.
But a truly satisfactory alternative doesn't seem to be out there. An Academy member friend is telling me not to get my hopes up. "The problem is that the competitors -- Mystic River, for one -- aren't strong enough to take it out...none of them are strong enough to get people to re-think things and vote one of them in in place of Lord of the Rings." ****...I kind of knew that. I just didn't want to admit it to myself.


:applaud: :applaud:

It's in the bag folks, its in the bag.

[The Moose]

yay!!!!!!

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Here's an article from an anti LOTR film critic.




:applaud: :applaud:

It's in the bag folks, its in the bag.

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24965

Who says it is?? This was one critics view of this NOT the members of the Academy and with Clint Eastwood's comments these days about SFX in movies that I recently just posted in the link above, it makes you wonder whether they might just feel the same way and give Best Picture to another film, say?? Lost In Translation??:applaud:

[Andrey83]

Well, untill the academy awards are actually held, there is nothing certain at all. Who knows. Maybe ROTK doesnt win any of them. Maybe they win all. Noone knows yet.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Andrey83
Well, untill the academy awards are actually held, there is nothing certain at all. Who knows. Maybe ROTK doesnt win any of them. Maybe they win all. Noone knows yet.

Precisely and that's what I've been saying... See, looks like you and I think alike.. Were made for one another..:heart: :D

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Precisely and that's what I've been saying... See, looks like you and I think alike.. Were made for one another..:heart: :D

Oh, I wouldnt go that far, but as much as I want ROTK to win, I do realize that nothing is certain yet.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Here's an article from an anti LOTR film critic.




:applaud: :applaud:

It's in the bag folks, its in the bag.

BKB should start thinking that way.

[Glordreen]

Here is an article that is just flat out halrious. THe NY Time makes fun of the anti-LOTR campaign. They invited several comedians to write fake thank you notes for the front-runners in each of the categories. The following was Tim Robbins "acceptance speech":

By "The Daily Show with Jon Stweart's" Stephen Colbert.

I have to thank Clint Eastwood for making such a powerful film - from what I have heard. I myself have not had a chance to see it. Wel, I guess that's not strictly true. I have had a chance, multiple chances in fact. And it's obviously one of those films that you "should" see, but the ads make it look like such a downer. I think somebody gets killed. And I mean really killed, not like "Lord of the Rings" killed. Which, by the way, is a great movie. I saw it twice. Those battle scenes are awesome. I cried. Now that Peter Jackson has shown us what you can do with enough technology, I don't know why anyone would want to see a film like "Mystic River" - which I understand is great. So thanks again to Clint Eastwood for believing in me, and especially to the special-effects wizards who created that Giant Spider. Imagine one of those things tearing the limbs off a grieving Sean Penn. Now that is a movie I would pay to see.

[Andrey83]

Thats a good one Glordreen! like that! :hehe:

[Smeagol]

:lol:

[Glordreen]

Here are Golderby's odds for who will likey walk awaywith the Oscars.



BEST PICTURE
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" - 1/5
"Mystic River" - 6/1
"Lost in Translation" - 7/1
"Seabiscuit" - 15/1
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" - 40/1

BEST DIRECTOR
Peter Jackson, "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" - 1/6
Clint Eastwood, "Mystic River" - 7/1
Sofia Coppola, "Lost In Translation" - 8/1
Peter Weir, "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" - 20/1
Fernando Meirelles, "City of God" - 40/1

BEST ACTOR
Sean Penn, "Mystic River" - 4/5
Bill Murray, "Lost in Translation" - Even
Johnny Depp, "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" - 15/1
Ben Kingsley, "House of Sand and Fog" - 25/1
Jude Law, "Cold Mountain" - 40/1

BEST ACTRESS
Charlize Theron, "Monster" - Even
Diane Keaton, "Something's Gotta Give" - 6/5
Naomi Watts, "21 Grams" - 8/1
Keisha Castle-Hughes, "Whale Rider" - 12/1
Samantha Morton, "In America" - 20/1

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tim Robbins, "Mystic River" - 1/3
Alec Baldwin, "The Cooler"- 4/1
Ken Watanabe, "The Last Samurai" - 5/1
Benicio Del Toro, "21 Grams" - 25/1
Djimon Hounsou, "In America" - 40/1

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Renee Zellweger, "Cold Mountain" - 3/5
Shohreh Aghdashloo, "House of Sand and Fog" - 5/2
Patricia Clarkson, "Pieces of April" - 7/2
Marcia Gay Harden, "Mystic River" - 40/1
Holly Hunter, "Thirteen" - 50/1

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
"Mystic River" - 8/5
"Seabiscuit" - 9/5
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" - 2/1
"American Splendor" -15/1
"City of God" - 35/1

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
"Lost In Translation" - 1/4
"In America" - 5/1
"Finding Nemo" - 6/1
"The Barbarian Invasions" - 20/1
"Dirty Pretty Things" - 50/1

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
"Finding Nemo" - 1/25
"The Triplets of Belleville" - 5/1
"Brother Bear" - 100/1

BEST SONG
"Into the West," "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King," Howard
Shore, Fran Walsh, Annie Lennox - 4/5
"You Will Be My Ain True Love," "Cold Mountain," Sting - 4/5
"Belleville Rendezvous," "The Triplets of Belleville," Music by Benoit
Charest, Lyric by Sylvain Chomet - 20-1
"Scarlet Tide," "Cold Mountain," T Bone Burnett & Elvis Costello - 40-1
"A Kiss at the End of the Rainbow," "A Mighty Wind," Michael McKean &
Annette O'Toole - 50-1



As you can see, ROTK has the best odds in all its major categories.

[Queen Arwen]

BKB's such a freakin' loser. The stats are staring him straight in the face.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
BKB's such a freakin' loser. The stats are staring him straight in the face.

Um, you think that was really necessary Queen calling me a loser cause I share a difference of opinion in who's going to win the Academy Awards??? Just a little harsh perhaps??? And by chance that I do turn out to be right whether it's slim or not, will you retract your comments and admit that I knew what I was talking about Queen???

[Queen Arwen]

Maybe. But you've called us all worse.

[Queen Arwen]

I take it back: I will retract my statement of calling you a loser. I'm sorry I stooped so low.

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
I take it back: I will retract my statement of calling you a loser. I'm sorry I stooped so low.

It's ok, just don't let it happen again.. :D :p Come on, sooner or later, you'll get used to me...

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Come on, sooner or later, you'll get used to me...


Not me.

[evenstar]

Glordreen, nice quote :) made me laugh.
Although we all so want it, after the Baftas, I can really see Lost in Translation walking away with Best Picture, even though I hope Im wrong.

[simmy]

we all know what the oscar bastards are like...they'll find some atry 3* outta 5* worthy film and give it the best awards. and then magazines will suddenly claim it was 5* in the dvd reviews. sadly the way of the world!

[Glordreen]

Originally posted by evenstar
Glordreen, nice quote :) made me laugh.
Although we all so want it, after the Baftas, I can really see Lost in Translation walking away with Best Picture, even though I hope Im wrong.

What? ROTK won Best Picture at the BAFTA's, you have no reasoning behind that.

Look, ROTK has won the Golden Globe, PGA, DGA, BAFTA, BFCA, and the NYFCC, and hoardes of critics awards. It is unstoppable.

[simmy]

i was tlking about oscars individually, not all award cerimonies.

[Glordreen]

Here's a new FYC ad.



http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v65/duckycc/FYC25.jpg

[Queen Arwen]

Woo-hoo!!! :applaud: It's a beautiful ad, Glordreen!

[Glordreen]

Add Tom Cruise and Julianne Moore to the presenters list.

[Smeagol]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Add Tom Cruise and Julianne Moore to the presenters list.

I take it that some of these presnters will be presenting minor awards, like Best Make-up etc.? There aren't enough major awards to cater for all the so-called celebrity presenters... :confused:

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Smeagol
I take it that some of these presnters will be presenting minor awards, like Best Make-up etc.? There aren't enough major awards to cater for all the so-called celebrity presenters... :confused:

I think it would be funny if George Lucas were to present the BEST PICTURE Oscar only to discover that it wasn't going to ROTK but Lost In Translation..:lol:

[Glordreen]

please leave and never come back.

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by BKB#1
I think it would be funny if George Lucas were to present the BEST PICTURE Oscar only to discover that it wasn't going to ROTK but Lost In Translation..:lol:
But you know what is even funnier, that he is not even invited.
Thats too bad isn't it?
Hey, but don't worry, keep your head up, I'm sure he'll be watching from his home..... crying in jealousy as ROTK wins Best Pic.
I can just see it now.

[Glordreen]

Haere are trhe NY Posts Oscar predix. The check is what they think will win, and the heart is what they want to win, but know is unlikely.


http://www.nypost.com/photos/ent021904050.jpg

[Glordreen]

Here a link to an OW page, which shows all of the major magazine and film critics predictions.

http://www.oscarwatch.com/Predictions04/predindex.html

[Glordreen]

Here are more spcatcular FYC ads. And since the ballots for the Oscars are due this coming Tuesday, these may be the last of the ads.



http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v65/duckycc/FYC26.jpg

http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v65/duckycc/FYC27.jpg

[Queen Arwen]

I think it's safe to say the odds are slightly in ROTK's favor, :applaud:.

[Queen Arwen]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
But you know what is even funnier, that he is not even invited.
Thats too bad isn't it?
Hey, but don't worry, keep your head up, I'm sure he'll be watching from his home..... crying in jealousy as ROTK wins Best Pic.
I can just see it now.

:lol: Handily spoken, ILOVEKATIE!

[Kerry from Cali]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Here are more spcatcular FYC ads. And since the ballots for the Oscars are due this coming Tuesday, these may be the last of the ads.



http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v65/duckycc/FYC26.jpg



this one of sam and frodo is my favorite one yet. this was such an emotional part in the movie. it gave me chills~

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[Queen Arwen]

Ooh, I just saw a TV promo spot for ROTK: it made want to see the movie again!!! Oscar night is in 9 days...and ROTK will take it. :D :grin:

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
Ooh, I just saw a TV promo spot for ROTK: it made want to see the movie again!!! Oscar night is in 9 days...and ROTK will take it. :D :grin:

Maybe..

[Lurtz_2000]

you doupt it?

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Lurtz_2000
you doupt it?

Honestly, YES, I do doubt it.. It's either going to be a split right down the middle with Jackson getting BEST DIRECTOR and Lost In Translation getting BEST PICTURE or Sophia Copolla getting BEST DIRECTOR and ROTK getting BEST PICTURE, But it certainly isn't going to be a sweep like many think, No and just because Jackson and ROTK have won countless of other awards doesn't automatically mean the Academy will do the same or feel the same way as in past telecast where upsets have occurred.. If anything and if this does happen, it will definitely be a wake up call for many fans and critics...

[Brock Landers]

I honestly think ROTK WILL win Best Picture of the year....but Director I'm still not sure on. I got a feeling they'll give it to Sofia Coppola to carry on the legacy of her father.

[Necross]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Honestly, YES, I do doubt it.. It's either going to be a split right down the middle with Jackson getting BEST DIRECTOR and Lost In Translation getting BEST PICTURE or Sophia Copolla getting BEST DIRECTOR and ROTK getting BEST PICTURE, But it certainly isn't going to be a sweep like many think, No and just because Jackson and ROTK have won countless of other awards doesn't automatically mean the Academy will do the same or feel the same way as in past telecast where upsets have occurred.. If anything and if this does happen, it will definitely be a wake up call for many fans and critics...

I am sorry to disagree but oh well. First off I think ROTK will get both but if there is a split like you say it will not be Lost in Translation that does the splitting even though it was a great movie. If something like that were to happen it would either be Mystic River getting best picture and Clint Eastwood getting best director. But that won't happen anyway now will it ;)

[Necross]

Originally posted by Glordreen
Here's a new FYC ad.



http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v65/duckycc/FYC25.jpg

Excellent Quotes there. Anyone read the ones at Movies.com ALL positive, Rotk average there is a 5 out of 5. Although all of them seem to gripe that Saruman wasn't in it lol, which lets you know they are all book fans. They always quote on review that was the best and the line they use it this

"Stirs the mind, body and soul like few films ever have before..."

Beautiful quote, others were like

"The biggest epic of this decade and probably the next..."

Love that site :D

[Glordreen]

There will be no split this year. ROTK has both BP and BD in the bag.

All the anit LOTR academy members you will not vote for ROTK, will either vote for Lost In Transaltion or Mystic River, therefore splitting their votes, which basically means ROTK has no real competition.

[Glordreen]

There will be no split this year. ROTK has both BP and BD in the bag.

All the anit LOTR academy members you will not vote for ROTK, will either vote for Lost In Transaltion or Mystic River, therefore splitting their votes, which basically means ROTK has no real competition.

ROTK has more voters anyway, by a long shot. The race is over, they just havent announced it yet.

[Necross]

I wish they would announce it! I mean even though I am positive it won, it still gives me the chills waiting!

[BKB#1]

Originally posted by Glordreen
There will be no split this year. ROTK has both BP and BD in the bag.

All the anit LOTR academy members you will not vote for ROTK, will either vote for Lost In Transaltion or Mystic River, therefore splitting their votes, which basically means ROTK has no real competition.

ROTK has more voters anyway, by a long shot. The race is over, they just havent announced it yet.

Well, I hope that you are right but you seem awfully overconfident that an upset would never occur in a million years the way you carry on about this and one last time to repeat this again: NOTHING IS A LOCK GLORDREEN, UPSETS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO OCCUR.. Now, I'm only saying this in bold because it appears your fanaticism has really gotten the best of you so much that your not willing to look at it any other way and if does turn out I'm right, I hope you can eat a big slice of humble pie... If ROTK and Jackson get both, then congratulations but I'm not holding my breath especially with the track record the Academy has had in previous award ceremony's for having upsets occur when a certain film was such a sure thing and it's just logical thinking that it could happen again.. At least, at the very LEAST admit that it could very well happen otherwise you set yourself up for a major disappointment???

[adt100]

Originally posted by BKB#1
Honestly, YES, I do doubt it.. It's either going to be a split right down the middle with Jackson getting BEST DIRECTOR and Lost In Translation getting BEST PICTURE or Sophia Copolla getting BEST DIRECTOR and ROTK getting BEST PICTURE, But it certainly isn't going to be a sweep like many think, No and just because Jackson and ROTK have won countless of other awards doesn't automatically mean the Academy will do the same or feel the same way as in past telecast where upsets have occurred.. If anything and if this does happen, it will definitely be a wake up call for many fans and critics...

He doubts it yes. Though not, funnily enough, that The Passion will win best picture for next year's Academy Awards, despite netither it not any of the main competition even being released yet!

Having said that, as I said earlier in this thread I do agree that ROTK winning best picture though most likely is not a certainty. PJ winning Best Picture is even less so. There have been upsets at the Oscars before, and we all know how up their own behinds (so to speak) the Academy can be with regard popular films at times.

Although I am very confident of ROTK's success, I am still prepared that, in yet another grave injustice, it might, just might not actually win.