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JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 01:28 AM
Hey everyone,

I got my ROTK poster today, the final one sheet. I was just looking over it and I noticed somethings.

Have you guys noticed:

1) THE OBVIOUS: Christopher Lee's name is not on there.

2) Another name that is NOT on the poster is Bruce Spence (The Mouth of Sauron). I don't think you guys need to worry because well, Lawernce Makorae is not on there either and he plays the witchking and we all know the WK is in.

3) Here is an intersting one, a name that is on the poster is SEAN BEAN.:confused:

Now, I do recall a rumor from last year during TTT pick up shots, that Sean Bean shots for TTT and ROTK. I thought it was mistake and the person who reported this only meant TTT.

Have anyone else seen that on the poster???

Glordreen
11-11-2003, 01:33 AM
Is the poster for sale now? If so I am going to buy it online right away.

Sean Bean in ROTK, its gotta be some kind of flaskback or something to do with Faramir or possibly Denethor. but Sean Bean is awesome as Boromir. So what ever it is that he is in is a plus.

Tonkpils
11-11-2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Hey everyone,

I got my ROTK poster today, the final one sheet. I was just looking over it and I noticed somethings.

Have you guys noticed:

1) THE OBVIOUS: Christopher Lee's name is not on there.

2) Another name that is NOT on the poster is Bruce Spence (The Mouth of Sauron). I don't think you guys need to worry because well, Lawernce Makorae is not on there either and he plays the witchking and we all know the WK is in.

3) Here is an intersting one, a name that is on the poster is SEAN BEAN.:confused:

Now, I do recall a rumor from last year during TTT pick up shots, that Sean Bean shots for TTT and ROTK. I thought it was mistake and the person who reported this only meant TTT.

Have anyone else seen that on the poster???
hmmmm thats weird, i havent gotten the poster. Now i want it.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 01:39 AM
Well, if you want to see for yourself, I am not sure just many of you live in Southern California, but in this past Sunday's LA TIMES calendar section, part 2: There is a full two pages devoted to the poster and again it has Sean Bean...

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Glordreen
Is the poster for sale now? If so I am going to buy it online right away.

Sean Bean in ROTK, its gotta be some kind of flaskback or something to do with Faramir or possibly Denethor. but Sean Bean is awesome as Boromir. So what ever it is that he is in is a plus.

Well, I am not sure if it is 4 sale yet for the public, I got mine through my friends.

Yeah, I think it maybe a flashback in the scene where either Pippin or Gandalf, most likley Pippin tells Denethor how Borormir did not die in vain, he died trying to protect he and Merry.

Queen Arwen
11-11-2003, 01:52 AM
I'm a little concerned with your news regarding the unceremoniousness drop of Christopher Lee, who is only the greatest villain in LOTR! That's something to think about....

Glordreen
11-11-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Queen Arwen
I'm a little concerned with your news regarding the unceremoniousness drop of Christopher Lee, who is only the greatest villain in LOTR! That's something to think about....

We're past this already. He's not in! It will be in the EE. Can we please move on.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 02:12 AM
Arwen R U not aware that Sauruman was cut out of ROTK??? Or is it the way I said "THE OBVIOUS???"


What I meant by "obvious" is that it is clear that the report from AICN is indeed true and also someone asked if the poster contained Chirstopher Lee's name or not. Of course it is clearly missing.

Glordreen
11-11-2003, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
also someone asked if the poster contained Chirstopher Lee's name or not. Of course it is clearly missing.

That was me. thanks for the info jedi.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 02:28 AM
No prob dude...

Glordreen
11-11-2003, 02:36 AM
Okay this is way off topic, but over at OW there is a report on a surprise death and they are saying that Gimli dies. I find this extremely false, but I just thought I'd let you guys know. But I wouldnt worry about it, its pretty much false, and there is no source nor quote, just someones random thought.

The Moose
11-11-2003, 02:42 AM
something that they've done the for the previous theatrical posters, Liv Tyler's name was like the 3rd name mentioned in the cast list on the poster. is it the same this time Jedi?

ya can't really expect them to get every character in the list.

is Brad Dourif mentioned?

adt100
11-11-2003, 05:53 AM
I thnik that given the ommission of certain names (ie Spence, Makoare) and the arrangement of others (ir Tyler) it could just be some kind of 3-film deal type thing with regard the posters. They want to put as many 'known names as possible.

Seems highly unllikely that we'd see another flashback, and there's been no indication of this.

PsYkOoOoO
11-11-2003, 06:01 AM
then why isnt Chris Lee there if they are trying to put as many known names like u said adt100

Wyn
11-11-2003, 07:20 AM
i think the Gimli thing is false as in the W&W book it has what happens to all the characters after the war of the ring and it says the same as the book as reagards to Gimli (I dont think they have killed any characters that are not killed in the book from the info in the movie tie ins).

Interesting that Sean Beans name is there I hope there is another flashback although it does seems strange.

PsYkOoOoO
11-11-2003, 07:34 AM
no wyn...Haldir died in the movies..i dont remember him dying in the books

adt100
11-11-2003, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
then why isnt Chris Lee there if they are trying to put as many known names like u said adt100

Don't know, maybe he asked for it to be cut knowing that he wasn't in it. And I do think now that he definitely knew about the cut before last Friday when we all found out.

adt100
11-11-2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
no wyn...Haldir died in the movies..i dont remember him dying in the books

Yes but he's not a main character. There have been a number of 'rumours' over the past year about the possibility of some of the main characters being killed off that don't die in the books.

I always thought they were just that, rumours, people just making up rubbish for the un of it. Now we've seen and heard so much from official sources though, as well as the movie books, official movie toys etc, I'm 100% that none of the main characters will be killed off early.

Wyn
11-11-2003, 09:23 AM
Sorry PsYkOoOoO although the book I was referring to does include all three films I was only referring to characters we dont know about yet in the films and their fate as in what happens to them in ROTK sorry if I didnt make that clear. I did put AFTER the war of the ring!! lol

In the W&W it says that none of the elves who went to Helms Deep ever went to the undying lands they all died in the battle so not only Haldir dies they all die.

MovieWes
11-11-2003, 10:26 AM
In the W&W book, it says that Legolas and an "ancient" Gimli sail to the undying lands together, so none of the remaining fellowship is going to die in the movies.

PsYkOoOoO
11-11-2003, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by adt100
Yes but he's not a main character. There have been a number of 'rumours' over the past year about the possibility of some of the main characters being killed off that don't die in the books.

I always thought they were just that, rumours, people just making up rubbish for the un of it. Now we've seen and heard so much from official sources though, as well as the movie books, official movie toys etc, I'm 100% that none of the main characters will be killed off early.

i dont think so as well...but if that really happens i think it migt be beregond..though hes not the main character..

MovieWes
11-11-2003, 10:29 AM
Is Beregond even still in the movie? I know they filmed the Beregond and Bergil scenes, but I'm not sure if either one of them made it in the final cut.

PsYkOoOoO
11-11-2003, 11:10 AM
well they might...i think they will be

adt100
11-11-2003, 11:22 AM
Well even if Beregond is in the film, it will essentially be just a cameo role. He may have the odd line or 2, but to the general audience he will just be 'random Gondorian #356'. So any such death wouldn't really mean anything I don't think.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by The Moose
something that they've done the for the previous theatrical posters, Liv Tyler's name was like the 3rd name mentioned in the cast list on the poster. is it the same this time Jedi?

ya can't really expect them to get every character in the list.

is Brad Dourif mentioned?



1) Liv's name is again mentioned third.

2) Brad Douriff's name is NOT on the poster.

downflow311
11-11-2003, 01:21 PM
thanks for the info jedi. very interesting......

Boods
11-11-2003, 01:33 PM
thanks for the info jedi ... too bad for christopher lee ... i dont think there will be any additional death in the movie compared to the books ... altough i wouldnt mind if its well done ...

DolAmroth
11-11-2003, 01:59 PM
You guys are all talking about this poster right.

http://www.lordoftherings.net/legend/downloads/rotkteaser/images/theatrical_poster.jpg

adt100
11-11-2003, 02:05 PM
yes.

darthspielberg
11-11-2003, 02:13 PM
AHHH TOO MUCH!

Smeagol
11-11-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by adt100
Don't know, maybe he asked for it to be cut knowing that he wasn't in it. And I do think now that he definitely knew about the cut before last Friday when we all found out.

In which case, Christopher Lee was using all of his experience to hype up his part in the film, knowing that when the 'news' was revealed, it was cause as much of an uproar as possible. :( Talk about Christopher Lee stirring the hornet's nest! :nono: He is not a happy bunny.

Anyway, he is giving an interview on ITV1's This Morning programme tomorrow morning. Thankfully, I'll be at work: I really wouldn't want to hear what he has got to say on the matter. I think I'd get too depressed. :(

Smeagol
11-11-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by DolAmroth
You guys are all talking about this poster right.

http://www.lordoftherings.net/legend/downloads/rotkteaser/images/theatrical_poster.jpg

Bloody Liv Tyler! :mad: FFS! :mad:

The Moose
11-11-2003, 05:16 PM
thanks Jedi

darthspielberg
11-11-2003, 05:44 PM
What's wrong with Liv Tyler

yummmy!

The Moose
11-11-2003, 05:51 PM
there's nothing wrong with her. some people just don't like that she's always mentioned really early in the cast listings, due to her not having a huge part in any of the 3 films

Undome-Elenamin
11-11-2003, 05:53 PM
OMG i just read that C. Lee is not in ROTK! The Scouring has been cut out in the end to save for DVD and also the seen in Isengard has supposedly been cut out. Peter Jackson better have made those graphics really good if those crucial scenes are being taken out.

BTW he's taking out Isengard bcuz he says that it's wrapping the second and not starting the third (movie that is). IDK why he's taking out the Scouring.

adt100
11-11-2003, 05:58 PM
The cutting of the SOS has been know for a few years now, and there are numerous very good reasons for what IMO is a logical decision film-wise.

The Moose
11-11-2003, 05:58 PM
nope. all we will see of scouring is what we saw in The mirror Of Galadriel. yes, VoS is out, but in the EE

darthspielberg
11-11-2003, 06:24 PM
I am still bummed about C. Lee

TroNeo87
11-11-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
no wyn...Haldir died in the movies..i dont remember him dying in the books


haldir was in the books? i dont remember him, and if he was he isnt a main character so it doesnt matter.

Glordreen
11-11-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by TroNeo87
haldir was in the books? i dont remember him, and if he was he isnt a main character so it doesnt matter.

Haldir escorted the Fellowship into Lothlorien in the books.

Boondock Saint
11-11-2003, 07:00 PM
Dammit! Liv tyler is hot but Arwyn does not have a huge part in the books!! I wish that would have killed her off. But man, I still cant wait for it to come out.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 07:05 PM
Guys, I don't want this thread to become another SARUMAN OUT OF ROTK RANT THREAD, let's talk about the other intersting thing, the fact that Sean Bean's name appears in the cast list.


Would you guys be cool with another Boromir flashback, I know I would. The one in TTT EE is pure genuis, so the one in ROTK should be just as good.

What are your thoughts???

UnicornBlood3
11-11-2003, 07:10 PM
I think that it would be cool to have another Boromir flashback..

Glordreen
11-11-2003, 07:20 PM
Yes it would. Sean Bean played Boromir fantastically well, he was excellent in FOTR. His presence can only be a good thing for ROTK.

adt100
11-11-2003, 07:39 PM
I don't think I'd be a fan of Boromir in another flashback. There doesn't seem to be any need that I can see, especially given the extensive treatment he is given in the TTT EE. It would seem a bit repetetive and going over similar ground purely for those that haven't seen the EE.

I think such techniques should be used sparingly, and unlike in TTT, I can't see how another flashback to Boromir would help the scenes in ROTK.

Glordreen
11-11-2003, 07:44 PM
Maybe its not a flashback. maybe he becomes a member of the Army of the dead and comes to Pellenor with Aragorn.;)

Undome-Elenamin
11-11-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by The Moose
nope. all we will see of scouring is what we saw in The mirror Of Galadriel. yes, VoS is out, but in the EE

:confused: can i get that in english or without the abrev. :confused:? btw Haldir wasnt in the books. If i remember correctly they never gave a name to who ever brought the elven army.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-11-2003, 09:51 PM
Moose said:

Yes the voice of Saruman (VoS) is out, but will be in the Extended Edtion DVD (EE).

PsYkOoOoO
11-11-2003, 10:07 PM
thats good enough for me..:)we will see it anyway

Brock Landers
11-11-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Undome-Elenamin
:confused: can i get that in english or without the abrev. :confused:? btw Haldir wasnt in the books. If i remember correctly they never gave a name to who ever brought the elven army.

Haldir was in the FOTR book. And there was NO elven army at the Deep in the books either....

PsYkOoOoO
11-11-2003, 10:15 PM
Haldir is the guy who brought the fellowship into and out of the city of Lorien in FOTR...in the books of course...:)

Brock Landers
11-11-2003, 10:29 PM
Yeah, he brought the Fellowship to Cerin Amroth and Caras Galadhon, and then lead them out ofcourse to the river.....

Undome-Elenamin
11-13-2003, 07:01 PM
my mistake sorry!:( haven't read them in a while

Turin Turambar
11-13-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Glordreen
Maybe its not a flashback. maybe he becomes a member of the Army of the dead and comes to Pellenor with Aragorn.;)

Ooo... if they did that I'd be pissed....

I assume it's another flashback of some sort (if he's truly in ROTK). Even though his character served his purpose and he's not really needed--it would just be extraneous and thus elligible for cutting for the final movie.

Wyn
11-14-2003, 07:02 AM
From what I can understand from the photoguide it seems that Denethor remembers his sons shown as a flashback.
Thats how I understood it. However for all we know it could have been taken out of the final cut as the Two towers photo guide had the scene with Aragorn and Brego in the stables still in it so i`m not counting anything in the books as definatly being in the theatrical cut!! lol

Savage Earth
11-14-2003, 10:27 AM
Haldir was cool. I wish they had kept him around, maybe see him with the other Elves when they depart for the Gray Havens.

But on the other hand, although I wasnt a fan of the Elves at HD, I think his death did add a certain something to the moment. When he was looking around at all the fallen Elves. Very sad.

As far as a Boromir flashback, I have no problem with it. Sean Bean was great as Boromir, and I don't think he would hurt the film at all.

Has there ever been any confirmation as to a Aragorn / Mouth of Sauron faceoff? I know the two traded a few barbs in ROTK, but wasnt it Gandalf who traded the most dialogue with MoS?

Glordreen
11-14-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Savage Earth
As far as a Boromir flashbook, I have no problem with it. Sean Bean was great as Boromir, and I don't think he would hurt the film at all.

Its a plus for the film.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-14-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Savage Earth
Has there ever been any confirmation as to a Aragorn / Mouth of Sauron faceoff? I know the two traded a few barbs in ROTK, but wasnt it Gandalf who traded the most dialogue with MoS?


Yes, Aragorn will face the mouth of Sauron in a fight.

Rizor
11-14-2003, 03:26 PM
Interesting news about Boromir. Maybe they'll pull a Godfather II and do a flashback at the very end to the good ol' days. Or maybe just your routine falshback.

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-14-2003, 08:41 PM
I was just reading the I believe the ROTK photo guide, in the part where Faramir informs Denethor that Osgiliath is overrun, the guide says something like "Denethor remembers back about Boromir never failing him..." it was something like that. This could be the evidence of the flashback.

Check your VC and photo guides.

Wyn
11-15-2003, 11:41 AM
Yes that was what I was referring to Jedi :)

So the MOS and Aragorn physically fight do they?? hmmm not so keen on that idea I loved it in the book where it was I seem to remember more strength of mind wasnt it??

JEDI_THE_WHITE
11-15-2003, 03:12 PM
Yeah, Aragorn will fight The Mouth of Sauron. This was confirmed by the LOTR TRIVIA PURSUIT game.


And you're right, in the book the real battle with MoS was more of a battle of words. I am sure this scene will be pretty darn good.

Necross
11-15-2003, 05:10 PM
I can't wait for Return of the King!

Smeagol
11-15-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by JEDI_THE_WHITE
Yeah, Aragorn will fight The Mouth of Sauron. This was confirmed by the LOTR TRIVIA PURSUIT game.


And you're right, in the book the real battle with MoS was more of a battle of words. I am sure this scene will be pretty darn good.

Yes, I don't mind changes like this because these kinds of scenes are worthy of taking a bit of artistic licence. I am looking forward to seeing Aragorn confront the Mouth of Sauron. :D

However, the spectral Army of the Dead 'winning' the battle on the fields of Pelennor by sweeping over the Orcs is a change that I am less looking forward to. :nono:

Necross
11-15-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Smeagol
Yes, I don't mind changes like this because these kinds of scenes are worthy of taking a bit of artistic licence. I am looking forward to seeing Aragorn confront the Mouth of Sauron. :D

However, the spectral Army of the Dead 'winning' the battle on the fields of Pelennor by sweeping over the Orcs is a change that I am less looking forward to. :nono:

I am sure the Army of the Dead scene will still be great, have faith! :D