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aford
11-09-2003, 08:10 PM
Just wondering, in animatrix it says the humans attacked the machines with nukes, but the heat and radiation didn't do anything to the machines, because they were too developed, correct? But when a nuke is detenated, it gives off a massive EMP. So, shouldn't the machine city still been shut down atleast? If this doesn't make any sense, please don't ***** me out, it's just a simple question. :)

matrixobsessed0
11-09-2003, 08:21 PM
i'm sure lots of machines were destroyed during the bombings, but once all the bombs were gone and alot of the remaining humans suffered from the aftermath of radiation, the machines had the advantage......the whole EMP Nuke thing may be true, but it may have been left out for the sake of moving the story along as well as making sense of it

Lackey
11-09-2003, 08:41 PM
yeah, machines within the radius of the emp were destroyed, but that's it... so it really didn't kill as many machines as the humans had hoped... plus the radiation kicked up into the atomsphere and lingering from the blast only harmed humans.

Pointy Shrub
11-09-2003, 11:54 PM
true, true.

i still think the zionists should have had at lease 1 EMP blaster in zion as a last defence.

A Man Apart
11-10-2003, 12:15 AM
True Pointy, but wouldn't that have shut down their city defenses? Or at least part of it?

Superchunk
11-10-2003, 01:28 AM
Nice to see someone reposting my question. The EMP wave is many times greater than the blast radius of the nuke, if it did happen...no more robots.

Lackey
11-10-2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Superchunk
Nice to see someone reposting my question. The EMP wave is many times greater than the blast radius of the nuke, if it did happen...no more robots.


that's interesting, but where's your info for this?

dogisburning
11-10-2003, 05:22 AM
Nukes release EMP?
For real?

An EMP in Zion would fry Zion it self.I was thinking of EMP mines,which they put on the way to Zion but far enough so Zion doesn't get hit.Then when the machines pass,BOOM!

Superchunk
11-10-2003, 05:28 AM
A high-altitude nuclear detonation produces an immediate flux of gamma rays from the nuclear reactions within the device. These photons in turn produce high energy free electrons by Compton scattering at altitudes between (roughly) 20 and 40 km. These electrons are then trapped in the Earth’s magnetic field, giving rise to an oscillating electric current. This current is asymmetric in general and gives rise to a rapidly rising radiated electromagnetic field called an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). Because the electrons are trapped essentially simultaneously, a very large electromagnetic source radiates coherently. The pulse can easily span continent-sized areas, and this radiation can affect systems on land, sea, and air.


A test blast over the Pacific Ocean ended up blowing out streetlights in parts of Hawaii, hundreds of miles away. The blast even disrupted radio equipment as far away as Australia.

Researchers concluded that the electrical disturbance was due to the Compton effect, theorized by physicist Arthur Compton in 1925. Compton's assertion was that photons of electromagnetic energy could knock loose electrons from atoms with low atomic numbers. In the 1958 test, researchers concluded, the photons from the blast's intense gamma radiation knocked a large number of electrons free from oxygen and nitrogen atoms in the atmosphere. This flood of electrons interacted with the Earth's magnetic field to create a fluctuating electric current, which induced a powerful magnetic field. The resulting electromagnetic pulse induced intense electrical currents in conductive materials over a wide area.

During the cold war, U.S. intelligence feared the Soviet Union would launch a nuclear missile and detonate it some 30 miles (50 kilometers) above the United States, to achieve the same effect on a larger scale. They feared that the resulting electromagnetic burst would knock out electrical equipment across the United States.

Lackey
11-10-2003, 09:49 AM
maybe it takes a much stronger emp to take out the machines... compare the emp just described, or the one in Ocean's Eleven for example, and the emp's in the Matrix Movies...
perhaps one from a nuclear blast would only down the machines temporarily or not at all.

Sparhawk
11-10-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by A Man Apart
True Pointy, but wouldn't that have shut down their city defenses? Or at least part of it?

For the answer to this question, see Revolutions.:D