View Full Version : Man I hate Mark Wahlberg!
stonefaced_1
10-20-2003, 09:23 AM
After seeing the uncomprehendible Italian Job, I realized that Mark Wahlberg has that rare gift of being able to ruin a movie just by being in it. His lack of charisma, acting ability, and screen presence had me near tears the entire movie. think And I don't want to hear how he was good in Boogie Nights, because he had a good cast around him to make him look good. His weakness was truly shown, in the Italian Job, as that cast was purely awful. Minus Edward Norton. Does anyone like him? Because I don't know anyone who does.
Sims17
10-20-2003, 10:49 AM
Have you seen how good he was in boogie nights? lol
Tony Montana
10-20-2003, 11:23 AM
I actually liked the movie...
I really liked him in Three Kings and of course Boogie Nights. I haven't seen The Italian Job, but I disagree that he's capable of ruining a movie simply by being in it.
Rocketboy
10-20-2003, 12:43 PM
The Italian Job was great!
Mark Wahlberg isn't that bad.
Now, Nicolas Cage on the other hand...:)
Tony Montana
10-20-2003, 01:35 PM
Nicolas Cage is great at playing... himself!
stonefaced_1
10-20-2003, 01:43 PM
I will give you that he was average in Three Kings, but the Italian Job was bad for a couple of reasons one at the beginning when they blow the safe from 2 stories up and they act like it fell in the boat. The bad guys have to be completely retarded, because a 1000 pound safe would go through the boat, and sink it. Another reason is it uses every cliche in the heist movie book (like Donald Sutherland giving Mark Wahlberg a cigar for when the mission is over) Oh yeah, and charlize thornton is ****ing horrible in every movie she is in.
A note on Nicholas Cage, has anyone here seen Leaving Las Vegas?
Tony Montana
10-20-2003, 05:51 PM
One movie! ONE! Show me ONE movie after or before Leaving Las Vegas when he actually acted some other person then himself!
Rent the original Italian Job and you will find out that that was the original heist movie, and they have just made a remake of it, including some little things like cigar!
Watch the movie, get used to the idea of it being a remake and understand.
Rocketboy
10-20-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by stonefaced_1
I will give you that he was average in Three Kings, but the Italian Job was bad for a couple of reasons one at the beginning when they blow the safe from 2 stories up and they act like it fell in the boat. The bad guys have to be completely retarded, because a 1000 pound safe would go through the boat, and sink it. Another reason is it uses every cliche in the heist movie book (like Donald Sutherland giving Mark Wahlberg a cigar for when the mission is over) Oh yeah, and charlize thornton is ****ing horrible in every movie she is in.
A note on Nicholas Cage, has anyone here seen Leaving Las Vegas? I disagree with most of that.
The Italian Job - suspend your disbelief and have fun with it!
And I think Charlize Theron is a good actress. And gorgeous, but that's beside the point.
Leaving Las Vegas sucked.
WDTSF
10-20-2003, 07:03 PM
I don't like him. Here are some reasons why:
-At age 14, he dropped out of school to hustle on the street
-Was convicted at age 16 for his involvement in the beating of the Vietnamese men during a robbery. He spent 45 days in jail for that
-Was arrested on two occasion for yelling racial epithets at black schoolchildrenn. Gays and Asian-Americans also accused him of bias.
-His public misconduct included a catfight with Madonna and an alleged assault on a security guard.
-has a third nipple (lol that's not really why i don't like him)
IamMrDJ
10-20-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by WDTSF
I don't like him. Here are some reasons why:
-At age 14, he dropped out of school to hustle on the street
-Was convicted at age 16 for his involvement in the beating of the Vietnamese men during a robbery. He spent 45 days in jail for that
-Was arrested on two occasion for yelling racial epithets at black schoolchildrenn. Gays and Asian-Americans also accused him of bias.
-His public misconduct included a catfight with Madonna and an alleged assault on a security guard.
-has a third nipple (lol that's not really why i don't like him)
The guy is 32 years-old now. He has admitted that he made mistakes growing up. But what kid didn't??? He has stated that time he spent in Jail helped him realize that he needed to change the direction he was taking his life. Yes he did drop out of school when he was 14 but he later did get his GED. It has been 10 years since he has made headlines for any of the things you mentioned. Everyone deserves a second chance and he has taken advantage of his and made something positive out of it.
I enjoyed The Italian Job. I saw the original before seeing the remae and thoguht they did a good job. I like him as an actor. Three Kings was an awesome movie and he was also good in Renaissance Man. He also just recently became a father and got engaged on the same day. I wish him the best of luck in the rest of his professional and personal life.
dr_evil
10-20-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by stonefaced_1
I will give you that he was average in Three Kings, but the Italian Job was bad for a couple of reasons one at the beginning when they blow the safe from 2 stories up and they act like it fell in the boat. The bad guys have to be completely retarded, because a 1000 pound safe would go through the boat, and sink it. Another reason is it uses every cliche in the heist movie book (like Donald Sutherland giving Mark Wahlberg a cigar for when the mission is over)
ok i have a question
how does that make his performance bad??????
IamMrDJ
10-20-2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by dr_evil
ok i have a question
how does that make his performance bad??????
It doesn't Evil. If it was a bad performance it was because of the writers, but IMO it was not a bad performace by anyone in the movie including the writers. I really enjoyed the movie and thought the blowing the safe scene was pretty cool.
Dogbert0228
10-20-2003, 10:56 PM
Donnie Wahlberg is an awesome actor... Too bad Mark couldn't pick up on that... Ironically, Mark's career is going better... But once more people are exposed to 'Band of Brothers,' and 'Boomtown,' they'll come around...
IamMrDJ
10-20-2003, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Dogbert0228
Donnie Wahlberg is an awesome actor... Too bad Mark couldn't pick up on that... Ironically, Mark's career is going better... But once more people are exposed to 'Band of Brothers,' and 'Boomtown,' they'll come around...
The problem though now is that Boomtown has been pulled from NBC's line-up. Today NBC also moved some shows around and Boomtown does not have a spot at all till atleast early next year. It does not look good for the show to return at all. Too bad because I really liked this show last year.
Piaro
10-20-2003, 11:23 PM
I don't think Mark Wahlberg is a good actor, but he didn't ruin The Italian Job for me.
stonefaced_1
10-21-2003, 08:47 AM
Obviously you don't get what I'm talking about. As a lead man Mark Wahlberg can't hack it. As the lead he was supposed to bring excitement and energy to the screen, but he doesn't. He never portrays any emotion about anything. Even in the scene where he punches Edward Norton, he is almost energyless. Another reason why i didn't like the Italian job. Those close buddy-buddy scenes between him and Donald Sutherland almost made me puke. Oh yeah, and the end where Charlize Tharon has to crack the safe by touch over technology like Sutherland did it is another huge clicke.
On another note cage has been good, in at least 5 movies. Adaptation, Matchstick Men, Leaving Las Vegas, The Rock, and Face/Off. Not liking him for his past his retarded.
Tony Montana
10-21-2003, 06:44 PM
Actually the fact that he mislikes gay people is nothing I would say is bad...
I dont think that he is a good actor, at least not like many people are thinking, he did great job in Leaving Las Vegas, but the rest was just .... him!
awakened
10-21-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by stonefaced_1
On another note cage has been good, in at least 5 movies. Adaptation, Matchstick Men, Leaving Las Vegas, The Rock, and Face/Off. Not liking him for his past his retarded.
You forgot to mention Raising Arizona
mentiroso
10-22-2003, 12:22 AM
I think Markie Mark is pretty good. I liked him in Fear, Three Kings, Boogie Nights, Rock Star, and The Italian Job.
I did not like that movie where he is a hitman but I am sure that it was Lou Diamond Phillips that ruined that one for me. Lou ruins everything he touches. Lou broke up the Brat Pack.
Anyway, MArkie Mark is ok in my book. Nothing super like Christopher Walken but he is good, alot better than Vin Diesel.
Rocketboy
10-22-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by stonefaced_1
On another note cage has been good, in at least 5 movies. Adaptation, Matchstick Men, Leaving Las Vegas, The Rock, and Face/Off. Not liking him for his past his retarded. Leaving Las Vegas, The Rock, and Face/Off sucked. I haven't seen, or will never see the other two.
IamMrDJ
10-22-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by mentiroso
I think Markie Mark is pretty good. I liked him in Fear, Three Kings, Boogie Nights, Rock Star, and The Italian Job.
I did not like that movie where he is a hitman but I am sure that it was Lou Diamond Phillips that ruined that one for me. Lou ruins everything he touches. Lou broke up the Brat Pack.
Anyway, MArkie Mark is ok in my book. Nothing super like Christopher Walken but he is good, alot better than Vin Diesel.
These are all great movies that you listed Mentiroso. You forgot The Perfect Storm and Renaissance Man (I have always liked this movie but like it more now because my friend had Basic on the base in the movie). I think he has got great energy in his leading roles. He is also a great co-star in movies. Such as Perfect Storm and Three Kings (He makes some good movies with George Clooney).
The hitman movie you are talking about is The Big Hit. I liked that movie because it was so unbelieveable that it was funny. Everything in the movie seemed to spoof Hitman movies even all the Gadgets that they used. You are right about Lou Diamond Phillips ruinign alot of stuff he touches. The only thing that he has touched recently that he didn't ruin was his small role on '24' during Season 1. Lou Diamond was also pretty funny in Hollywood Homicide this year as an Undercover Cross-Dressing Hooker.
IamMrDJ
10-22-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Rocketboy
Leaving Las Vegas, The Rock, and Face/Off sucked. I haven't seen, or will never see the other two.
:eek: WHAT???:eek: You didn't liked The Rock or Face/Off. I thought those two movies were great. Ok so they were not very believeable but so what that is what movies are for. Leaving Las Vegas was cool a little dark but cool. Adaptation was brilliant IMO. I really thoguht Chris Cooper was great in it. Matchstick Men was another great movie. If you have ever seen Monk and liked it you would like this movie. Sam Rockwell and Alison Lohman were great co-stars in this movie.
LadyFireFly
10-22-2003, 01:47 AM
I don't think he is a particularly good actor, although he showed potential in Boogie Nights. I also don't understand his appeal as a sex symbol. Sure he's got a nice body, but he's a butterface.
stonefaced_1
10-22-2003, 08:51 AM
OK, The Rock and Face/Off were both great action movies. Sure Cage played the stock action character but atleast he played it well. Mark Wahlberg couldn't even play a stock character well. By the way you are completely stupid to not see Adaptation, one of the best movies of last year. Charlie Kaufman is a genius.
Rybread098
05-19-2009, 04:03 PM
Every time I see a film with Mark Wahlberg in it I always get asked the same question. “Have you been touched by god”. Sadly I have to say no and explain to them I am crying tears of blood because of Wahlbergs ruining a movie effect. I would have to say if a director announced that He was going to cast old Mark for his up coming film but thought a dead monkey would do a better job. I would go to that movie and watch a lifeless animal lay on the ground for 3 hours and would come out of the theater and say “damn that monkey sure out acted Mark Wahlberg.” I have seen his films, hoping and praying that he will act like the character he is playing, but every time I am very disappointed, and have to buy some club soda, to wash out the blood stains. He always delivers his lines like he is out of breath like he just ran up and only can say three words at a time, before he has to make a dramatic breath in. Now don’t get me wrong he might be a great guy, and can understand why a lot of people like him. Its because they feel like they have to, as in how people have to like the mentally challenge, because they feel sorry that he can‘t do things on his own, for example, be a strong lead character, and actually making a film a success. I know he has to have someone read his lines to him, because he doesn’t understand some words, but he isn’t mental handicap, he’s just dumb. I’m glad there’s someone out there that hates him too. Oh and for the ladies that liked him in Boogie Nights sorry to disappoint you, it was fake.
Ewok Droppings
05-19-2009, 04:38 PM
I think he's usually been OK in the roles he's played. Granted The Happening was a crappy performance from everyone - but that movie was crap in the first place, so no loss there.
Boiiinng
05-19-2009, 04:47 PM
5.5 year bump. Is that a record?
Knerys
05-19-2009, 04:50 PM
I will never understand this deep distain people have for certain actors, especially ones who really aren't that bad.
I mean there are actors I dislike but not so much that I let it riun my day.
quiksilver022
05-19-2009, 07:48 PM
Mark Wahlberg sucks. Agreed.
"You're a donkey. I like that. You eat apples, right? That's tight, I produce Entourage!"
http://www.hulu.com/watch/37753/saturday-night-live-mark-wahlberg-talks-to-animals
Where's my elephant?
05-20-2009, 12:06 PM
I think he's usually been OK in the roles he's played. Granted The Happening was a crappy performance from everyone - but that movie was crap in the first place, so no loss there.
That SNL skit parodying the "talking to the plants" scene hit the nail right on the head. Holy cheese and crackers he was awful.
Justin
05-20-2009, 01:38 PM
Eh, he isn't awful. I hated The Happening, but he was good in The Departed....
Art_of_crime
05-20-2009, 02:03 PM
The Italian Job was great!
Mark Wahlberg isn't that bad.
Now, Nicolas Cage on the other hand...:)
awe man you took the words right out of my mouth. Cage does not have a whole lot of range. He almost always plays the goofy, awkward David Schwimmer type.
Now I'm just going to have to complain about Paul Walker and Keanu Reeves.
'Cause man they suck!
Teddy Ruxbin had more emotions than them
moviefan310
05-20-2009, 02:15 PM
Eh, he isn't awful. I hated The Happening, but he was good in The Departed....
I agree. He's not a bad actor. I think it depends on the movie/director he's working on/with. I thought he was great in The Departed, Three Kings, and The Big Hit... then in The Happening and Max Payne he was pretty awful, but those movie were just awful....
JBond
05-20-2009, 04:02 PM
Eh, he isn't awful. I hated The Happening, but he was good in The Departed....
Was anyone good in The Happening?
M. Night: "Faster! More intense!"
Ewok Droppings
05-20-2009, 05:17 PM
So, after The Crappening - is M. Night's career down the toilet in Hollywood? Who's going to risk a large budget on him after his last couple of disastrous movies?
Justin
05-20-2009, 05:18 PM
Was anyone good in The Happening?
True.
FranklinTard
05-20-2009, 06:10 PM
those kids took that shotgun blast to the face like real professional actors.
Justin
05-20-2009, 06:45 PM
Maybe I'm weird for laughing, but when the fat kid caught that shotgun blast....
The WupZter
05-20-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm going out on a limb and say that M. Night purposely made the actors incredulous and naive at everything due to the circumstances involved. Think about it. Something as eerie as the catastrophe (and the irrationality behind it all) would not invoke such panic and outright maniacal responses. Had the movie been about some dangerous tornado or other "rational" natural disasters, then you can say the acting was downright weird and unbelievable. But people just dying out of some unexplained phenomenon? The element of not understanding and the unknowing ambiance behind it all would make anyone, myself included, act more as a kid and more unknowing about what there is to do. Plus, by making the "living" actors very awkward and eerie, M.Night creates the mood that goes along with the rest of the movie; irrational events can cause irrational responses and emotions when they strike. Okay I know the movie is laughed at much, and I have to admit, the only time I watched I was rolling my eyes and laughing mostly. But in retrospect, now that I think more about it, I can see what M. Night is going for. Audiences may not get it, and that's understandable, but I believe the acting is as good as it can be. Seriously, if the disaster from the movie had happened to us, right now, and somehow someone somewhere recorded our emotions during these tough and extremely irrational events, we can look at it and say, wow, we are surely "unnormal" in our responses, and perhaps won't even believe it ourselves. But that's the thing about it. Emotions can be rational or irrational, believable or unbelievable, given the situation. And for that, M. Night really captures the strangeness and off-kilter quality of it all really well.
Justin
05-20-2009, 08:45 PM
No one likes reading an entire block of text.
The WupZter
05-20-2009, 09:23 PM
thanks for your input :rolleyes:
quiksilver022
05-20-2009, 10:10 PM
I agree Nick Cage is absolute crass. I'm BAFFLED why any studio would fork over $10 million just for him, then another $50 million for production and $30 million for advertising. You KNOW it's only going to make $45 million total. Unless it's National Treasure.. because Disney somehow rarely effs S up.
Justin
05-20-2009, 10:14 PM
thanks for your input :rolleyes:
Well there would be more input if it wasn't such a strain on my eyes to read each and every line of what you typed. We use paragraphs for a reason.
Art_of_crime
05-21-2009, 10:43 AM
M. Nights movies make anyone seem lifeless.
JBond
05-21-2009, 04:19 PM
Maybe I'm weird for laughing, but when the fat kid caught that shotgun blast....
I can assure you that you weren't the only one laughing.
Where's my elephant?
05-22-2009, 04:14 PM
I agree Nick Cage is absolute crass. I'm BAFFLED why any studio would fork over $10 million just for him,
Because he's really good when he makes quality movies that aren't made to make money like Adaptation,Matchstick Men,Lord of War,and The Weather Man. He seemed like he was getting back to where he belonged for awhile now he's doing junk like Know1ng.
Justin
05-23-2009, 10:54 AM
Ditto Elephant.
I'm not sure I understand all of the Nic Cage hatred. He's been in bad movies with poor directors. But that doesn't make him a bad actor.
How was he bad in Adaptation, Wild at Heart, Leaving Las Vegas, Bringing Out the Dead, and The Weather Man?
Steve from Indy
05-24-2009, 08:38 AM
I'm sorry, but any topic about bad actors needs to start with how bad they are in comparison to John Travolta.
sshuttari
05-26-2009, 02:56 PM
So, after The Crappening - is M. Night's career down the toilet in Hollywood? Who's going to risk a large budget on him after his last couple of disastrous movies?
He's working on a summer blockbuster called Avatar: The Last Airbender for July 2nd of next year.
The budget is of the scale and we'll see if he can pull off a winner. This is the first time M. Night is not doing a thriller/horror flick.
Also I like Wahlberg he is good in many movies especially in The Departed.
Art_of_crime
05-27-2009, 01:33 PM
So, after The Crappening - is M. Night's career down the toilet in Hollywood? Who's going to risk a large budget on him after his last couple of disastrous movies?
He was on the every other movie plan for a while there. Where he alternated between watchable and crap. The last few he kind of lost his rhythm.
we'll see where Avatar lands on the ****-o-meter
Danny Rand
05-27-2009, 02:28 PM
one of my favorite actors actually
Boogie Nights
Invincible
Three Kings
Perfect Storm
The Italian Job
Four Brothers
Klimber
07-02-2009, 11:36 AM
I can never talk bad about Wahlberg.
Without him there would be no Entourage. Nuff said.
Well OK, Planet of the Apes sucked but it was not entirely his fault.
Most of his films are quite enjoyable.
Jordan KO
07-03-2009, 10:40 AM
well he does make a lot of bad movies. i only care for three kings
Justin
07-03-2009, 10:45 AM
Boogie Nights was definitely not bad. In fact, he was great in it.
PsYkOoOoO
07-03-2009, 12:40 PM
He was awesome in The Departed.
Jordan KO
07-03-2009, 12:46 PM
i never finished the departed, its not that it was bad i just wasn't in the mood
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