Your most CHEESY LOTR moment!!

[D-fence]

Obviously this are movies everyone on these boards love and respect, but even so: There have to be a few moments or scene's in there that you still find a little.. well.. cheesy! :rolleyes:
For me personally the one TRULY cheesy moment is a shot everybody else seems to love!

It's the shot of Legolas 'surfing' down the stairs at the Battle for Helms Deep.

The first time I saw that in theatres I just.. laughed! :) I think the reason it doesn’t work for me is that it's the only time I feel Howard Shore's score is Overdone... But hey, that's just me! And apart from that I enjoy the hell out of these masterpieces every time I see them, so don't hang me just yet.. :p

So my question really: What's YOUR cheesy moment in Middle earth?!

[downflow311]

id say sam's lame ass speech in osgiliath in TTT. "there is some good in this world, and its worth fighting for." DEFINTELY NOT written by tolkein.

[downflow311]

or when merry and pippin (amon hen) tackle an uruk-hai soldier and stab him with a sword. uruk's can carry the hobbits with one hand, yet they get tackled by them so easily. i can see why they put that scene in the EE version of FOTR. it looks funny and fake.

[PsYkOoOoO]

when celeborn says,'tell me where is gandalf'

[Golwin]

Aragorn at Helms Deep, when he says, "Send for aid to Gondor".

He knows that the orcs will come before nightfall. Still to send a horse to Gondor and for them to get ready and travel back would take several days..

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Thats not really cheesy :-\ Thats just wrong, lol.. and how is that Celeborn line cheesy too?

Probably the cheesiest thing to me is the moment between Sam and Frodo at the end of TTT, not Sams speech.. the bit where their talking about Samwise the Brave

[PsYkOoOoO]

i dunno..what celeborn said just made me feel really uncomfortable

[downflow311]

"tell me where is gandalf" made you feel uncomfortable? how?

[DolAmroth]

I dont see whats wrong with any of these things I think there all fine. except the one with legolas sliding down the stairs on the shield that was kinda dumb but what ever. Snd I liked Sams speach and the hobbits little conversation at the end about samwize the brave, cause in rotk he does have to become samwize the brave. And the one with Aragorn asking theoden to ask aid from gondor is was a form of speech to be not so indepented and that their not alone and to atleast try to get help.

[downflow311]

sam's speech was writtened in by the writers not tolkein. and it was emotionless when it was trying to have alot of emotion, like at the end of FOTR when sam was drowning but frodo saved him. they tried to end the TTT on an emotional note like FOTR and it didnt work. lamest part of the trilogy so far.

[Lasgalen]

I liked the Legolas shieldboarding thing *ducks fangirl insults*
Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool, you gotta love that Elven balance :)

As for cheesy, pretty much everything Boromir said or did at the council o Elrond. What was with that 'great eye' hand gesture anyway?!?!?!?!?!

[ILOVEKATIE]

Originally posted by downflow311
"tell me where is gandalf" made you feel uncomfortable? how?
it was the way he said it, his voice...I'm with ya PsYkOoOoO

[FrodoLover]

actually in the books im pretty that sam did have a speech that was very very similar to the one at the end of the movie...it was just put at different part in the movie than it was in the book

[downflow311]

it was not the same speech. that was added for "emotional effect" at the end of the movie.

[jeti]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
I liked the Legolas shieldboarding thing *ducks fangirl insults*
Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool, you gotta love that Elven balance :)

As for cheesy, pretty much everything Boromir said or did at the council o Elrond. What was with that 'great eye' hand gesture anyway?!?!?!?!?! Haha, I am all opposite :) I am with D-fence on the shieldboarding and the doublepace Shore-frenzy. And also, I kind of liked the Elrond meeting, and the description of Mordor in particular. It sounded like he described it out of rumours alone and little factual knowledge. Though as a viewer you knew that it was all partly true.

//update:
On second thought, I know that it is all completely true, so maybe he did have some factual knowledge. But he spells out his fear to make the council change its opinion, and it is a foreboding illustration of what is to come. I especially like the way he says, "One does not simply walk into Mordor". Strictly speaking, I know this should be common knowledge to everyone at the council, but I think it works well in the movie.

Actually I think there are many potential cheesy moments, but it all depends on your ability and willingness to immerse yourself in the fantasy. And as John-Ryes Davies so vividly described in the FoTR EE, there are some things that simply seem to work better in writing than visually.

[Barrett]

mine would probly be at the council of elrond when everyone is chosen for the fellowship. Elrond says, "You shall be the fellowship of the ring" with a shot of them all and the score playing in the backround. i don't know why but that part seemed really cheezy to me

[downflow311]

that was cheezy.

[Lizwise Gamgee]

I can't think of anything..The horse running to Gandalf is all I can think of that barely goes with that.
Otherwise, the only thing I ever laughed at that is when my Dad sings "Dude looks like a lady" when Elven men are in the scene. :D

[RingWraith2k4]

My opinion, Sam's speech is one of the best speeches in the movie. and I'd liked every word of it. It had a hobbit feel to it that tells you that they love old adventure stories and they feel that they are in one.
Besides, me and my friends can say that whole speech word for word.
And as far as cheesy, I choose the one when Merry and Pippen were throwing little rocks at the Uruk hai and literally knocking them out. (pretty funny and cheesy at the same time!).

[Cloud Buster]

I agree, Sam's speech in TTT is very good. What's nice about it is it wraps the entire film of TTT in a nutshell -- the story is about keeping hope even in impossible odds or certain death. That is something that every character in the film deals with -- they lose all hope, and the film tells the story of their internal and external struggles to get it back. The ending of FOTR accomplished the same thing -- as the FOTR movie was about the loss of innocence, and what becomes of friendship and loyalty when that innocence is lost. Again, it is something every character deals with. Sam's monologue in TTT IS based on dialogue Sam has in the book, just like the bit about "I wonder if we'll be in songs or tales...".

It amazes me how much of the movies are verbatim Tolkien's words. But, it amazes me even more how much people complain when it ISN'T verbatim.

"Did you hear that?? He said 'You shall not pass', but in the book he said 'You CANNOT pass'!! I can't believe PJ would sell out like that!! He has no right to make any changes whatsoever and every time he does me and every other Tolkien fan die a little inside."

For crying out loud, if you can't realize that a MOVIE is NOT A BOOK, and certain plot devices must work differently, not to mention establishing plot points in a fraction of the time it's done in the books, then BUY THE FRIGGIN BOOK ON TAPE!!

[downflow311]

the speech didnt work though.....

[Cbars]

I don't like Treebeard's voice. It reminds me a lot of the Rockbiter character in the Neverending Story.

[downflow311]

yeah it resembled gimli's voice too much as well, hehehe. they should have gotten a different voice for treebeard.

[Cloud Buster]

It's a good speech, but I think the problem is that it's a great speech on paper, and it's great when read by Sean Astin, but that scene shows several things going on at once. They cut from Sam, to the end of Helm's Deep, to Eowyn and Aragorn, to the Ents battling Isengard, and Saruman retreating inside Orthanc. It's very hard for an audience member to focus on the dialogue with so many important things being shown on screen. While all that's happening you're thinking "Look, the Uruk-Hai are running....oh hey, Eowym in flirting with Aragorn...check it out, Saruman is being defeated" so you don't have the chance to give the monologue your full attention. By the time they cut back to Sam, you hear "Folk in those stories had lots chances of turning back..." and by then you're lost.

It's one of those moments that requires a little too much focus from the audience to be effective because so many important things are happening. Even after watching it several times, it's difficult to get past the other action on the screen. I mean really, you've just spent the last 45 minutes immersed in Helm's Deep, when you hear Theoden say "Victory, we have victory!" it's very distracting.

Try reading it:

Sam: "I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here...but we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end, because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it'll shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stuck with -- that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand, I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. Because they were holding on to something."

Frodo: "What are we holding on to, Sam?"

Sam: "That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."

[obsessedwithsnl]

i loved sam's speech at the end of TT...i felt kinda relieved when he said all that because that's how i felt...i thought the shield surfing was really cool when i first saw it, but it's starting to get cheesy...merry and pippin throwing stones bugs because i guess you could knock someone out/kill if you threw a stone at them, but a hobbit throwing a stone, it would have to be a small stone, and they're throwing at uruks who have armour, it just doesn't make sense...i try not to think about it too much....oh sometimes there's partswhen sam says something very sentimental to frodo and they play the shire score or whatever and that kinda comes off as cheesey to me

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Cloud Buster
It's a good speech, but I think the problem is that it's a great speech on paper, and it's great when read by Sean Astin, but that scene shows several things going on at once. They cut from Sam, to the end of Helm's Deep, to Eowyn and Aragorn, to the Ents battling Isengard, and Saruman retreating inside Orthanc. It's very hard for an audience member to focus on the dialogue with so many important things being shown on screen. While all that's happening you're thinking "Look, the Uruk-Hai are running....oh hey, Eowym in flirting with Aragorn...check it out, Saruman is being defeated" so you don't have the chance to give the monologue your full attention. By the time they cut back to Sam, you hear "Folk in those stories had lots chances of turning back..." and by then you're lost.

It's one of those moments that requires a little too much focus from the audience to be effective because so many important things are happening. Even after watching it several times, it's difficult to get past the other action on the screen. I mean really, you've just spent the last 45 minutes immersed in Helm's Deep, when you hear Theoden say "Victory, we have victory!" it's very distracting.

Try reading it:

Sam: "I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here...but we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end, because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it'll shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stuck with -- that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand, I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. Because they were holding on to something."

Frodo: "What are we holding on to, Sam?"

Sam: "That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."

it just doesnt fit in the movie for me. it just seemed like they were trying to end on an emotional so hard like in FOTR and it just didnt work for me, it was too forced.

[Gandollum]

In TTT, every joke that was about Gimli the "comic relief guy." It was funny the first time, but now its just cheesy.

I also found Theoden's exorcism to be cheesy and quite stupid.

[kylesmile]

Gimli burping/drooling during the discussion in Rohan's Golden Hall was unnecessary. Some Sam stuff is cheesy (end of both FOTR and TTT), but it works, because Sam is sappy, but well-acted.

[Lizwise Gamgee]

Originally posted by downflow311
yeah it resembled gimli's voice too much as well, hehehe. they should have gotten a different voice for treebeard.

Man, I loved Treebeard's voice! Especially with the "sound of low woodwinds" with it. I like his voice best of everybody's!

[DolAmroth]

Heres a mistake look at Aragorn this is from the FOTR he is holding a lighter.

http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/5978.jpg

[PsYkOoOoO]

ive seen this pic before...its not show in the film but before the scene began..i dont think its a mistake..

[DolAmroth]

but he is holding a now a days lighter.

[The Moose]

to be honest, i don't think that there are any cheesy moments, but some moments of comic relief. those would be the closest to cheesy for me. legolas's shield surfing was OK in the movie, and i don't really see why people are making is seem cheesy?

[Cloud Buster]

Originally posted by DolAmroth
but he is holding a now a days lighter.

So?? They weren't filming. You think they all really went on a journey sleeping on the ground for real too? I got news for you, when the cameras were off they drove cars, flew airplanes and helicopters, and watched television. On the set they used makeup, lights, computer controlled cameras, and satellite phones.

If you think that's a "mistake" because they used a -- how you say -- "now a days" lighter to get the pipe going before the scene, then at the risk of sounding cliche, you're a moron.

[DolAmroth]

Oh I thought that pic was in the movie ok nvm then its not cheezy.

[flukeman]

Legolas surfing
Gimli burping
Shadowfax cantering up to Gandalf (it's very hard to make any filming with horses, especially slow-mo, not look cheesy)

[jeti]

While I agree on the Shadowfax, I am surprised that some see the burping scene as cheesy. As I recall, Aragorn had just been rebuked by Théoden ("Last I looked, Théoden was king - not Aragorn"). So I thought Gimli burping sort of broke the embarassing silence that followed, and showed how dwarves have little respect towards matters other than their own.

Anyway, to continue, I also thought the scene with the elven capes at the gates of Mordor was a bit much.

[Sparhawk]

The movie vs book arguement aside. I though Aragorn's almost death in TTT was uber-cheese.

As a long-time fan of the books that sequence just plain pissed me off, but even as a fan of the movies I though it was dumb.

I mean, c'mon, did anyone really think he would die?

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by Cloud Buster
So?? They weren't filming. You think they all really went on a journey sleeping on the ground for real too? I got news for you, when the cameras were off they drove cars, flew airplanes and helicopters, and watched television. On the set they used makeup, lights, computer controlled cameras, and satellite phones.



:lol:

[ILOVEKATIE]

I didn't think the Shadowfax slow mo scene was cheesy, though I thought the line Legolas says when he sees Shadowfax was way cheesy.

[Morgoth]

I felt that the Galadriel-Frodo scene at the Mirror of Galadriel was the weakest, most poorly, done part of the theatrical release of FoTR...it seemed sooo overacted by Blanchett that it was almost funny -- chees[z]y, in fact. She was just too weird...almost psycho.

The FoTR EE remedied things quite nicely by simply drawing out the Lothlorien episode and including the gift-giving. It sufficed to take the edge off of Galadriel, IMO.

Beyond that, I thought that Legolas's "shield-slide" bit was somewhat chees[z]y but haven't really been turned off by anything in the first two films.

[Gastric ReFlux]

I've watched both movies, and can't remember any cheese in any of the scenes.

[Lasgalen]

The falling off the cliff thing wasnt cheesy, just plain wrong!!

Aragorn and Eowyn kissing after Helms deep. OMG.

[Mr. Frodo]

Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
I've watched both movies, and can't remember any cheese in any of the scenes.

I thought Bilbo ate some when talking to Gandalf at Bag End at the start of FOTR. :D

[Gastric ReFlux]

Originally posted by Mr. Frodo
I thought Bilbo ate some when talking to Gandalf at the begging of FOTR. :D

Thanks, I'll watch for that next time. Probably this weekend, I try to watch the movies at least once a week.

[jaxmaglcman]

Originally posted by Mr. Frodo
I thought Bilbo ate some when talking to Gandalf at Bag End at the start of FOTR. :D


mmmmm i lick cheez. votte 4 m3!

http://www.sonnyboo.com/onlinemovies/images/mayor.gif

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
The falling off the cliff thing wasnt cheesy, just plain wrong!!

Aragorn and Eowyn kissing after Helms deep. OMG.

They hugged, not kissed.. lol And I think it was a hug of releif

[Cloud Buster]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
Aragorn and Eowyn kissing after Helms deep. OMG.

Dawg....they didn't kiss...she hugged him. No offense, but you need to get laid. ;)

[The Moose]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
The falling off the cliff thing wasnt cheesy, just plain wrong!!



that was a bit out of left field for me, but not cheesy though

[Lasgalen]

I was sure that they kissed in the theater, I was suprised on the DVD where they huged.

With all due respect Cloud Buster, f^ck you :)

[Queen Arwen]

The Aragorn and Arwen scene: "If you trust nothing else, trust this. Trust us." What the F**k? I'm sorry, but that was wrong! I had really mixed emotions about those scenes. Sometimes I like them, but most of the time, I cringe. And the first time I ever saw the theatrical trailer with them kissing, I was like, "What the h*ll? That's random!" So those are my cheesy LOTR moments.

[Queen Arwen]

Originally posted by Sparhawk
The movie vs book arguement aside. I though Aragorn's almost death in TTT was uber-cheese.

As a long-time fan of the books that sequence just plain pissed me off, but even as a fan of the movies I though it was dumb.

I mean, c'mon, did anyone really think he would die?

Amen, dude! I was wondering how PJ would've thought that fans, even those w/o previous LOTR experience, could've let that slide. I mean, come on! The third movie is all about ARAGORN! Return of the King?! That was definitely uber-cheese...especially w/ Arwen blessing him w/ the grace of the Valar.

[Queen Arwen]

Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE
I didn't think the Shadowfax slow mo scene was cheesy, though I thought the line Legolas says when he sees Shadowfax was way cheesy.

That's in the book, check it out because it's original Tolkien. It just sounds weird when Legolas says it (to book fans, at least) b/c the Royal Guards at Edoras were supposed to say that when the Three Hunters and Gandalf ride up to the gate.

[Seraph333]

When Legolas surfed down the stairs.

[Queen Arwen]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
The falling off the cliff thing wasnt cheesy, just plain wrong!!

Aragorn and Eowyn kissing after Helms deep. OMG.

No! They didn't kiss! Can't you tell the difference between an embrace and a kiss? Did you really think Aragorn would be that easy or that thick? :confused:

[Queen Arwen]

And I thought that was actually one of the best moments in the film, though definitely a PJ & Crew addition.

[Cloud Buster]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
I was sure that they kissed in the theater, I was suprised on the DVD where they huged.

With all due respect Cloud Buster, f^ck you :)

Sorry, dude. When I said you needed to get laid I wasn't offering. :)

But I'm sure Viggo argued that Aragorn should've kissed Eowyn despite his love for Arwen. He wanted Aragorn to act "like the true playa that he is".

[The Moose]

hmmmm. wonder what arwen would have done if she was there? she was oroginally there in the film, but then they took her out.

do ya think she would've gone nuts at Aragorn if she'd been there and seen them?

[PsYkOoOoO]

most probably she will summon those white horses in FOTR and drown eowyn

[The Moose]

Bruinen is the word you are looking for PsYkOoO (i think)

[PsYkOoOoO]

i thought bruinen is the river's name..whatever u know what im talking bout..

[redman]

i reckon if they got rid of the chessy parts e.g arwen and aragorn dream scenes, the supposed aragorn death scene where he falls off the cliff, and other scenes that didnt come from the book - then TTT would have been better than FOTR.

They might have been able to fit in the shelob's lair scene.

(god damn they wasted a lotta time on unneccessary stuff)

[PsYkOoOoO]

well like i said redman...its not like you wont be able to see shelob...

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by Queen Arwen
No! They didn't kiss! Can't you tell the difference between an embrace and a kiss? Did you really think Aragorn would be that easy or that thick? :confused:
Thtas what I thought! But I was so sure thats what I saw in the cinema, I asked my mother and she thought the same thing and was ready to slap Aragorn!!


Originally posted by Cloud Buster
Sorry, dude. When I said you needed to get laid I wasn't offering. :)
I guessed that.


But I'm sure Viggo argued that Aragorn should've kissed Eowyn despite his love for Arwen. He wanted Aragorn to act "like the true playa that he is".
Yeah, because its SO in character for him to go around kissing girls other than Arwen. Or even Arwen :confused:

[PsYkOoOoO]

he did not kiss her~!

[Boods]

i absolutely loved sam's speech ... i also thought the way legolas slide down on the armour is amazing ... i cant find one cheesy moment in those movies...
maybe when aragorn says to legolas "what do your elf eyes see" ...that was a bit weird but still not enough to be cheesy IMO..or when legolas says..i"a red sun rises, blood has been spilt this night"

[redman]

it seemed as though legolas IMO really changed in TTT

[D-fence]

Originally posted by redman
it seemed as though legolas IMO really changed in TTT

In what way?

[Lasgalen]

I think he was more determined and sometimes angrier than in FOTR :confused:

[PsYkOoOoO]

why not...those uruk hai killed soldiers of his race..u expect him not to get angrY?

[Cirith Ungol]

. . . I thought Sam's speech was great . . .

[Cirith Ungol]

as for cheesey, I thought it was kind of cheesy when Aragorn fell off the cliff.

[PsYkOoOoO]

sam's speech rocked~!

[evenstar]

K, dont know if this has already been mentioned but for some reson I found the flash of lightening and Aragorn dropping his sword when Gandalf the White revealed himself really overdone.

I loved Sams speech! I still well up everytime I hear it...

[Spy-Of-Saruman]

Yeah, Sams speech was great.. very heartfelt I think...

P.S I love your avatar Evenstar.. THE GINGER BREAD MAN!

[PsYkOoOoO]

hahaha

the muffin man?

hahaaa...so hilarious..hahaha

[Fanible]

Ooh... I don't like this thread. Im not gonna read anymore.

I enjoyed pretty much all the scenes mentioned, except maybe how that dude sounded, not just when he mentioned Gandalf, but his voice period.

But Lord of the Rings is always called a masterpeice and everyone loves it. Reading this thread makes me feel like this is all the stuff that people dislike about the film that no one ever mentions.

One thing after another just made me think "Oh please..."

P.S.
Sam's speech was great :D. It's one part that with friends or family that everyone is totally silent, or totally shh out someone that attempts to speak. Great sentimental crap (should know by now I love sentimentallity). Great way to sum up the film.

[PsYkOoOoO]

we dont dislike it really...just parts that dont fit the rest of the film i guess

[evenstar]

Originally posted by Spy-Of-Saruman
Yeah, Sams speech was great.. very heartfelt I think...

P.S I love your avatar Evenstar.. THE GINGER BREAD MAN!

totally agree.... bout the speech and my avatar; cheers:)

[PsYkOoOoO]

where u got it?

[evenstar]

random site (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/3633/avatars.html ) while wondering the net in one of my great moments of boardom

http://www.geocities.com/toastedhobbits/AFList/legolas_sword.gif

[downflow311]

sams speech felt forced. i felt like i HAD to feel sorry for them just so they could end it like FOTR. oh well, i think we have named all of the cheesy momnets in LOTR regardless.

[todd philip]

Originally posted by downflow311
id say sam's lame ass speech in osgiliath in TTT. "there is some good in this world, and its worth fighting for." DEFINTELY NOT written by tolkein.

THATS THE BEST LINE OF THE ENTIRE MOVIE!

brings me to tears

[Smeagol]

Frodo rolling his eyes was cheesy. :o

[loyis7]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
when celeborn says,'tell me where is gandalf'

I agree with PsYkOoOoO for one more time.

The way that man say these words is like he's gay and want's to know where is Gandalf so that they could have some private moments together......if you know what i mean !!!

[The Moose]

it wasn't frodo that was rolling his eyes, the ring MADE him do it

[obsessedwithsnl]

i hate those arwen and aragorn dream sequences in TT, they just really slow down the movie

[The Moose]

i thought the first one was averagely good, but the second one was a bit bad. but they did serve a purpose in the story

[Illchill]

Well, I ama n00b to the LOTR boards, but here's my 2 centz.....
I didn't really like how the Balrog/Gandlaf thing went, though it looked amazing.Gandalf still able to catch to his sword so perfectly, land on the Balrog, andsurvive the fall with him.Also the lighting to his sword I coulda lived wihout, along when he was coming back to life with the gasp in the white room.However, none of these things made me think any less of this, the greatest movie ever.....

[Cbars]

I like the eye roll....He looks like he is going to throw up or pass out or something.

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by loyis7
I agree with PsYkOoOoO for one more time.

The way that man say these words is like he's gay and want's to know where is Gandalf so that they could have some private moments together......if you know what i mean !!!

:hehe:

[Lurtz_2000]

sam smacking orcs with frying pan and saying "i think i'm getting the hang of this"
and legolas saying "that is (something) unless my eyes are cheated by sme spell".

[PsYkOoOoO]

legolas's line was pretty cheesy really

[The Moose]

only sorta thouhg. not full on cheesy

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by Illchill
Well, I ama n00b to the LOTR boards, but here's my 2 centz.....
I didn't really like how the Balrog/Gandlaf thing went, though it looked amazing.Gandalf still able to catch to his sword so perfectly, land on the Balrog, andsurvive the fall with him.Also the lighting to his sword I coulda lived wihout, along when he was coming back to life with the gasp in the white room.However, none of these things made me think any less of this, the greatest movie ever.....
Hi Illchill, good to see you here!! (Its Ryoko, btw!)

That line with Legolas and the Mares was pretty cheesy.

[PsYkOoOoO]

i just watched TTT again..yea..still cheesy

[redman]

Originally posted by PsYkOoOoO
sam's speech rocked~!

yeah but it was no where near as good as the FOTR speech to frodo in the boat.

[PsYkOoOoO]

i think it was better if not as good as the speech

[Illchill]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
Hi Illchill, good to see you here!! (Its Ryoko, btw!)

That line with Legolas and the Mares was pretty cheesy.

Ahhhhhh, at least I have a chance to have more posts than you in one board.....

[redman]

Originally posted by redman
yeah but it was no where near as good as the FOTR speech to frodo in the boat.

maybe its just cause i know that all that stuff that happened in osgiliath at the end of TTT didnt happen in the book.

FOr some reason i just cant get over that.

[v4c4]

I like everything (Books, and The Film) about The Middle Earth…well not exactly everything I really don’t like the games…but that is another story.
I think this is a great film, bout we know that there is nothing perfect in this world, so this film has bad things (Legolas surfing for example).
Bout what is really cheesy to me is when Faramir take Frodo and Sam to Gondor. I know that the film can’t be exactly as the book but this is a BIG change.
I was just choked when I saw that.

[The Moose]

i actually liked sam's speech. it was meaningful, but not entirely moving

[Samwise Gamwich]

Originally posted by Cbars
I don't like Treebeard's voice. It reminds me a lot of the Rockbiter character in the Neverending Story.

Actually the way they re-digitized JRD's voice to portray Treebeard to sound exactly as Tolkien described... The deep woodwind voice was very well done especially when he talks very slowly.... Exactly the way I imagined it from the book...

Speaking also of Treebeard...

I guess I need to know tout my biggest pet peeve of all in TTT... Cheesy?? Maybe...

IMHO the way the hobbits meet Treebeard is very cheesy if not outright wrong...
No orc followed them into Fangorn.... The hobbits meet a very mellow slow and deliberate Treebeard... Not the 'semi-fearsome' creature that the movie portrayed...

Sorry... Just my biggest complaint...

BTW Sam's speech worked! But this was probably the only way that PJ could have rounded up all of TTT... Not per the book but sure did work for cinematic storytelling and that is after all what really counts about these movies.

I am really looking forward to TTT EE to see how it perhaps was modified because of inclusion of the huorns and Flotsam and Jetsom chapters... That might eliminate Sam's speech or PJ may orchestrate it a bit different...

(JEDI has seen this!! Perhaps he could shed some light!)

[CWLakers34]

I think that the cheesiest part was in TTT at Osgiliath when Frodo said "They're here" when the Nazgul came. It just didn't fit well.

Also, I don't know if anyone picked up on this but I thought it was funny in Sam's speech when he says, "By rights we're not even supposed to be here". I thought that line was totally ironic because they weren't in Osgiliath in the book and they literally BY RIGHTS they weren't supposed to be there. That's just the little stuff i pick up on. :)

[Illchill]

They shouldn't have made it sound like a computer type voice when he said "they're here", I agree.

[D-fence]

Now that TTT EE is out, I think my cheesiest moment is when Eowyn brings Aragorn her slime on a plate to eat :) I mean, Eowyn is depicted in the rest of the movie as this strong free fought woman, and in this scene she suddenly acts like a schoolgirl with a crush. It just didn't sit right with me.. But then again: I've watched the EE only two times now, so maybe that part has to grow on me...

[Thorongil]

"If you want him, come and claim him"

Cringe each time i see FotR at that line


Legolas swinging up on the horse, looks a little tooo fake for mine

[flukeman]

Originally posted by Thorongil
"If you want him, come and claim him"

Cringe each time i see FotR at that line



Oh, I love that line! And then Asfoloth does that half-rear in the river...awesome :)

[LOTRNUT04]

Originally posted by Thorongil
"If you want him, come and claim him"

Cringe each time i see FotR at that line


Legolas swinging up on the horse, looks a little tooo fake for mine

i absolutely love that line. She says it well, so whats wrong with it?

[D-fence]

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
i absolutely love that line. She says it well, so whats wrong with it?

Yes, I think it's one of Liv Tylers finest moments in the movies! (THE finest being her inhale and tear when Elrond speaks her name in TTT) So I wouldn't call it Cheesy at all. But I've heard some of my friends say it's to 'blockbuster-ish' for their tastes. I can understand what they mean by that, but definitely don't share that opinion.

[LOTRNUT04]

Originally posted by D-fence
Yes, I think it's one of Liv Tylers finest moments in the movies! (THE finest being her inhale and tear when Elrond speaks her name in TTT) So I wouldn't call it Cheesy at all. But I've heard some of my friends say it's to 'blockbuster-ish' for their tastes. I can understand what they mean by that, but definitely don't share that opinion.
for some reason, i think you are being sarcastic, i cant tell though. If not, i totally agree with you :)

[The Moose]

i think that is a pretty good line. not of of the greatest lines in cinema history, but it's good

[LOTRNUT04]

definetly not cheesy though?

[The Moose]

correct. NOT cheesy

[D-fence]

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
for some reason, i think you are being sarcastic, i cant tell though. If not, i totally agree with you :)

Haha! :) No I wasn't being sarcastic at all! What made you think that?

[LOTRNUT04]

i dont know....weird huh?

[D-fence]

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
i dont know....weird huh?

You know what’s weird? Seeing your next door neighbour deciding she can take a dump in the middle of the street in broad daylight! (and yes, that actually DID happen!:D)

[todd philip]

Originally posted by D-fence
You know what’s weird? Seeing your next door neighbour deciding she can take a dump in the middle of the street in broad daylight! (and yes, that actually DID happen!:D)

did you take a picture?

[D-fence]

Originally posted by todd philip
did you take a picture?

To tell you the truth: I was to shocked to do anything else then stare trough the window with my mouth hanging slightly open on the floor. I think the rest of the street had the same reaction.
It wasn't until a few neighbourhood kids started to jump and dance around her screaming insults that someone decided it was time to call the police.

Sad really. She spend the next 2 years in a mental institution, and her family moved away to another city to be closer to her. I knew her son, used to play outside with him as a kid, haven't seen him since.

But still: the correct word to describe the whole situation could only be: 'WEIRD'! :) It's a scene that will stay burned in my memory until my last breath :eek:

[Partyman343]

"Nothing ever dampens your spirits, does it Sam?"

"Those rain clouds might."

Need I say more.

[IceGambit]

Cheeseball moments that I still love (since I love all the moments)

Aragorn: Let's Hunt some Orc
-No one in Middle Earth would talk lke that, it's too slang-y.

The new Treebeard poem in TTT:EE
- Waaay to long of a scene. I can see why it was cut out.

[D-fence]

Originally posted by Partyman343
"Nothing ever dampens your spirits, does it Sam?"

"Those rain clouds might."

Need I say more.

You know.. I found that a lot less 'cheesy' in the Extended Edition, when it's followed with the shot of Frodo and Sam sitting in the Rain. Don't know.. didn't find it THAT cheesy to begin with, and the EE solved allot more 'semi-cheesy' moments IMO.

The thing I still find semi-cheesy is when Aragorn says the line: "Something gives speed to this creatures.. works it's will against us" and THEN stands still with this 'Kingly' gaze for a few seconds. If those few seconds had been cut, and they would have jumped to the next shot instantley, I wouldn't have had that feeling.

And ANOTHER line that stays semi-cheesy IMO is Logolas saying while they chase the Uruks: "A red Sun Rizes. Blood has been spilled this night" Don't know why.. He just says it so.. PRETTY BOYISH!! :rolleyes:

[LOTRNUT04]

i liked all those previous lines, i didn't like the way legolas said that the uruk's are,"taking the hobbits to isengard." It is not a cheezy line, just said in a cheesy manner.

[Megaman]

Originally posted by downflow311
or when merry and pippin (amon hen) tackle an uruk-hai soldier and stab him with a sword. uruk's can carry the hobbits with one hand, yet they get tackled by them so easily. i can see why they put that scene in the EE version of FOTR. it looks funny and fake.


the orc that they kill was one already stabbed my borimir

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by LOTRNUT04
i liked all those previous lines, i didn't like the way legolas said that the uruk's are,"taking the hobbits to isengard." It is not a cheezy line, just said in a cheesy manner.

I found ANYTHING said by Legolas on 'Three Hunters' sequence cheesy("They're taking the Hobbits to Isengard", "They run as if the very whips of their masters were behind them!"). It seemed too much like cheesy videogame dialogue.

[Necross]

I was gonna say the whip line as one of them too, I still love Legolas though, he rocks completely! One line that wasn't cheesy at all but really could have been because its so cliched is," That there is some good in the world Mr. Frodo, and its worth fighting for." However, Sean Astin delivered it really well and it wasn't cheesy at all.

[Necross]

Originally posted by v4c4
I like everything (Books, and The Film) about The Middle Earth…well not exactly everything I really don’t like the games…but that is another story.
I think this is a great film, bout we know that there is nothing perfect in this world, so this film has bad things (Legolas surfing for example).
Bout what is really cheesy to me is when Faramir take Frodo and Sam to Gondor. I know that the film can’t be exactly as the book but this is a BIG change.
I was just choked when I saw that.

I thought it was brilliant. I didn't like how Faramir wasn't tempted at all by the ring in the book. I mean here is the object of all evil that no man is supposed to be able to endure, and he is all like, "I wouldn't pick it up if it were on the side of the road." What?! Anyway they also needed that to give the hobbits more screen time because they couldn't do any of the other scenes in the TT movie because it wouldn't follow the timeline. I mean when Frodo reaches the crossroads, Pippin has already been in Minas Tirith for 2 days.