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Kyle Katarn
08-27-2003, 08:54 PM
Okay, I picked up the current issues of X-Men and Uncanny, to see if I could get back in the groove. The last major event I remember reading before this was the end of Onslaught, when the Prof was taken into custody.
Some questions about what's happening now:
*I heard Magneto is dead in the "real" universe. Wassup wit dat? :(
*Prof X can WALK again?!
*Juggernaut living with him! On speaking terms?
*What's with the Prof in an X-Men uniform? Thought he was always the suit-n-tie type.
*I see the school is more like in the movie, with "students." Accurate?
*Who's in the main line-up? I noticed Wolvie, Cyke, Havok, Angel, and Iceman.
*WHERE IS GAMBIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Kyle Katarn
08-28-2003, 11:31 PM
:confused: Can't anyone throw me a fickin' bone here, people?

thebtskink
08-28-2003, 11:56 PM
I tried catching up, just as lost as you, buddy.

slinger
08-30-2003, 08:50 PM
Maybe you should try Ultimate X-Men

Kyle Katarn
08-30-2003, 09:59 PM
Never! "real" universe 4 life! :mad: :p

Lackey
09-01-2003, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Okay, I picked up the current issues of X-Men and Uncanny, to see if I could get back in the groove. The last major event I remember reading before this was the end of Onslaught, when the Prof was taken into custody.
Some questions about what's happening now:
*I heard Magneto is dead in the "real" universe. Wassup wit dat? :(
*Prof X can WALK again?!
*Juggernaut living with him! On speaking terms?
*What's with the Prof in an X-Men uniform? Thought he was always the suit-n-tie type.
*I see the school is more like in the movie, with "students." Accurate?
*Who's in the main line-up? I noticed Wolvie, Cyke, Havok, Angel, and Iceman.
*WHERE IS GAMBIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I'm not an X-Men X-pert (;)), but I'll try to answer these...

Magneto died on Genosha when it blew up.
Juggernaut was with Black Tom, Tom went through a secondary mutation and went crazy, Juggernaut called Charles for help, the X-Men came to help, made if off the island, Juggernaut fell into the ocean and would've drowned, this little "fish kid" that Xavier has picked up to take to his school jumped in the water and saved Juggernaut... Charles offered Juggernaut a place to stay, He became friends with the kid that saved his life, now wants to be on one of the teams. (Juggernaut also saved Havok's life..oh yeah, and Havok's back too)

I don't know what's up with Prof. X, he's always going crippled and then able to walk off and on.

Yeah, they've made it more like the movie with the uniforms and school

Gambit sucks, why would you want him on the team. ;)
The line-up is different in all the X books, in Uncanny, it's been Angel (whose blood has healing powers now), Nightcrawler, Iceman, Husk.....and um...I've drawn a blank. :o

Lackey
09-01-2003, 04:08 AM
oh yeah, and Ultimate X-Men is completely awesome.... buy the first tpb and give it a try, I bet you won't be able to resist buying the rest of them.

Riddle
09-01-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Lackey
Charles offered Juggernaut a place to stay, He became friends with the kid that saved his life, now wants to be on one of the teams.

I hate it when they turn villains into heroes......cause you just know that somewhere down the line, they'll turn bad again....

Hell, how many times did they do that to Magneto?

Riddle
09-01-2003, 04:42 PM
Oh, yeah....How many X-Titles are there now, anyway?
Cause I'm thinking of getting back into them....I stopped getting them about 7 years ago, cause there was just too many of them....

Lackey
09-01-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Riddle
I hate it when they turn villains into heroes......cause you just know that somewhere down the line, they'll turn bad again....

Hell, how many times did they do that to Magneto?


Yeah I know.... thank Chuck Austen for that. (also Juggernaut is not as powerful as he used to be).

That guy's been hit or miss with his stories, I liked him on Uncanny at first and now it's just gotten bad with the current Draco arc.
I'm about to drop Uncanny. I hear Exiles has been really good with Judd Winick writing, but he signed an exclusive with DC and so is leaving that title.

Lackey
09-01-2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Riddle
Oh, yeah....How many X-Titles are there now, anyway?
Cause I'm thinking of getting back into them....I stopped getting them about 7 years ago, cause there was just too many of them....

there's a ton, I'm not sure exactly how many... I only read Uncanny, and I get the tpb's of Ultimate X-Men.

I recommend going with Ultimate X-Men, it's the best X-Men title out there and although not in "original continuity" it won't disappoint.

Like I said above, pick up the first tpb and give it a try....you'll be hooked after that.

Kyle Katarn
09-01-2003, 06:37 PM
Thanks Lackey! :) I saw Havok and the others in Uncanny....looks like Polaris has gone a little loony! :eek:

It didn't hit me as odd that Angel had regular skin until last night! Side effect of the healing blood? Ah, no biggie.

I got one ish of Ultimate X-Men....I think it was a Marvel promo or a theater giveaway....anyhow, it does look cool. It was the one where the military raided the mansion....Cyke was blasting them, till Kurt came in and took his visor and nailed him with a frying pan! Rogue took Jean's power and made Iceman re-live his appendectomy, sans painkillers! :eek:

Nichol
09-10-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Okay, I picked up the current issues of X-Men and Uncanny, to see if I could get back in the groove. The last major event I remember reading before this was the end of Onslaught, when the Prof was taken into custody.
Some questions about what's happening now:
*I heard Magneto is dead in the "real" universe. Wassup wit dat? :(
*Prof X can WALK again?!
*Juggernaut living with him! On speaking terms?
*What's with the Prof in an X-Men uniform? Thought he was always the suit-n-tie type.
*I see the school is more like in the movie, with "students." Accurate?
*Who's in the main line-up? I noticed Wolvie, Cyke, Havok, Angel, and Iceman.
*WHERE IS GAMBIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

SPOILERS HO!

For the time being, Magneto is dead. Genosha exploded and killed lots of folks, Magneto apparently among them. Polaris (Lorna) was also caught in the explosion, and this event helped drive her over the edge.

The Prof and Juggernaut finally made up and Juggie's giving the heroism thing a try. The currently line-up is Wolverine (Logan), Cyclops (Scott), Havok (Alex), Angel (Warren), Iceman (Bobby), Nightcrawler (Kurt), Juggernaut (Cain), Northstar (Jean-Paul), Husk (Paige), and the school nurse, Annie.

Stacy-X split for parts unknown after Warren and Paige hooked up. Bobby and Jean-Paul became good buddies and Jean-Paul fell in love with him, but Bobby remained blissfully unaware that Jean-Paul was even gay until Annie pointed it out to him. I have no idea where they're taking that. Alex and Lorna were about to get married before Alex realized that:

a) he didn't love Lorna anymore
b) he was really in love with Annie and
c) Lorna was a crazy biotch.

He called off the wedding, Lorna flipped out and tried to kill him and Annie before being subdued by Juggernaut. Some religious extremists captured and crucified several mutants, among them Gen-X's Skin (Angelo), who then died. Nightcrawler discovered his real father is a demonesque fellow called Azazel, who summoned him to this island with all his other children, including Abyss (Nils). So now Kurt's family tree is even more complicated than ever before!

Halofan1
09-11-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
Okay, I picked up the current issues of X-Men and Uncanny, to see if I could get back in the groove. The last major event I remember reading before this was the end of Onslaught, when the Prof was taken into custody.
Some questions about what's happening now:
*I heard Magneto is dead in the "real" universe. Wassup wit dat? :(
*Prof X can WALK again?!
*Juggernaut living with him! On speaking terms?
*What's with the Prof in an X-Men uniform? Thought he was always the suit-n-tie type.
*I see the school is more like in the movie, with "students." Accurate?
*Who's in the main line-up? I noticed Wolvie, Cyke, Havok, Angel, and Iceman.
*WHERE IS GAMBIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Magneto is not dead. In the newest issue of New X-Men that hit today, he's revealed as Xorn, and my goodness what a great issue it was.

Professor X was healed by Xorn, who was the team healer.Midway through the new ish, Xorn makes Charlie crippled once more.

Ever since the X-Men movie hit, they've all sported the leather getups.

Yeah, the movie changed the books around some.

Main line-ups: New X - Cyke, Wolvie, Jean, Beast, Professor X, and Emma Frost. Uncanny - Wolvie, Nightcrawler, Iceman, Angel, and Chamber. Xtreme - Storm, Bishop, and I would know more, but this X book sucks really bad.

As for Gambit, he and Rouge lost their mutant powers in Xtreme. I'm hearing rumors Claremont will do a storyline featuring them.

Halofan1
09-11-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Riddle
Oh, yeah....How many X-Titles are there now, anyway?
Cause I'm thinking of getting back into them....I stopped getting them about 7 years ago, cause there was just too many of them....

Ultimate X-Men, X-Men Unlimited, Mystique, Emma Frost, New X-Men, Wolverine, Uncanny X-Men, and Xtreme X-Men.

Now, if you want the best, you need to go with New X-Men.

Halofan1
09-11-2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Lackey
there's a ton, I'm not sure exactly how many... I only read Uncanny, and I get the tpb's of Ultimate X-Men.

I recommend going with Ultimate X-Men, it's the best X-Men title out there and although not in "original continuity" it won't disappoint.

Like I said above, pick up the first tpb and give it a try....you'll be hooked after that.

I hate to do my usual "you're wrong I'm right", but New X-Men is the best X book.

Lackey
09-11-2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Halofan1
I hate to do my usual "you're wrong I'm right", but New X-Men is the best X book.


Well that's your opinion, I don't read New X-Men, but with Grant Morrison leaving, I don't think it will be as good anymore.

Most X-fans would probably disagree with you, I hear the most praise for UXM and Exiles (but Winick is leaving that one).

and right now UXM has Bendis writing it.

Halofan1
09-12-2003, 04:34 PM
Have you read the latest New X issue?

Kyle Katarn
09-12-2003, 09:57 PM
Is the latest one the last part of "Assault on Weapon Plus" or whatever? I had that one in my hands the other day but didn't get it... :eek:

Lackey
09-13-2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Halofan1
Have you read the latest New X issue?


Yes I have, it was awesome.


Magneto is back, and I'm so glad! :D

Halofan1
09-13-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Lackey
Yes I have, it was awesome.


Magneto is back, and I'm so glad! :D

As am I man. I was just waiting for him to come back. Luckily, I didn't have to wait too long.

Kyle Katarn
09-13-2003, 10:50 PM
*phew* Well, like we really expected that chatacter to stay gone! ;)

Halofan1
09-14-2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
*phew* Well, like we really expected that chatacter to stay gone! ;)

Stay gone?! What craziness are you talking about?! :D

Rocketboy
09-16-2003, 12:05 AM
After reading this thread...I'll probably never get back into X-Men. I've missed waaaaaaay too much and have no idea who a few of the characters are.
I quit with the Age of Apocalypse. That was the worst idea ever.

Halofan1
09-16-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Rocketboy
After reading this thread...I'll probably never get back into X-Men. I've missed waaaaaaay too much and have no idea who a few of the characters are.
I quit with the Age of Apocalypse. That was the worst idea ever.

Just buy the two New X-Men HCs and #142 on and you'll have one of the best books available.

Kyle Katarn
10-16-2003, 08:27 PM
I dunno what to think about the latest ish....I somehow missed the return, but the latest ish saw Mags as both a supreme badass, yet it was also...sad and funny. "Where did you get this crowd? They're barely reacting!"

:confused:

Lackey
10-16-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by Rocketboy
After reading this thread...I'll probably never get back into X-Men. I've missed waaaaaaay too much and have no idea who a few of the characters are.
I quit with the Age of Apocalypse. That was the worst idea ever.

Go with Ultimate X-Men, then you can start from scratch...

There are 5 Ultimate X-Men tpb's, I think... then you're basically all caught up. and the stories are awesome!

Kyle Katarn
10-16-2003, 10:02 PM
They'll take my Original Universe when they pry it from my cold dead fingers! :mad: ;)

Benz
10-24-2003, 08:19 PM
If you need someone to help get you up to scratch on the stuff leading up to where we are now I can probably answer the majority of your questions...

Kyle Katarn
10-24-2003, 08:30 PM
I'm a little less in the dark now, but any further help would be appreciated! :)

Again...where is my favorite X-Man Gambit?

And with Genosha...I see in "The Draco" that it was destroyed by Sentinals...but why? Who ordered it?

Benz
10-26-2003, 02:47 PM
Gambit is part of the 'X-treme X-Men' (along with Storm, Rogue, Bishop, Canonball and Sage) a group that are no longer affiliated with Xavier and were formed with the intention of locating the destiny diaries (they have completed that task, and are basically just another mutant super team now). Gambit and Rogue both recently lost their powers and took some time off to be together, and have recently returned to action, I presume with their powers once again, X-treme is pretty confusing.

Genosha was destroyed by Cassandra Nova in one of the most confusing plot arcs of Morrison's run, it had nothing to do with the government or anything, Nova was Xavier's twin killed in the womb, and she wanted revenge, which she got through destroying Genosha killing millions...

Sorry about the vague answers both the questions were pretty tricky for me as I didn't follow the arcs they occured in in their entirety, but don't let that discourage you from asking me any more questions.

Rocketboy
10-27-2003, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Benz
Gambit is part of the 'X-treme X-Men' (along with Storm, Rogue, Bishop, Canonball and Sage) a group that are no longer affiliated with Xavier and were formed with the intention of locating the destiny diaries (they have completed that task, and are basically just another mutant super team now). Gambit and Rogue both recently lost their powers and took some time off to be together, and have recently returned to action, I presume with their powers once again, X-treme is pretty confusing.

Genosha was destroyed by Cassandra Nova in one of the most confusing plot arcs of Morrison's run, it had nothing to do with the government or anything, Nova was Xavier's twin killed in the womb, and she wanted revenge, which she got through destroying Genosha killing millions...

Sorry about the vague answers both the questions were pretty tricky for me as I didn't follow the arcs they occured in in their entirety, but don't let that discourage you from asking me any more questions. Man, after reading that, I think I'm glad I don't read it anymore...
X-Men that aren't X-Men?
Xavier's dead twin sister?
Yeesh.

Benz
10-27-2003, 10:41 AM
I left out some stuff, it's not as soap opera as it sounds... The X-Treme X-Men are still X-Men, they basically just don't stay at the mansion and are no longer affiliated with Xavier, they still do the same things...

Kyle Katarn
10-28-2003, 10:15 PM
Hmmm....thanks! :)

Benz
10-30-2003, 07:34 AM
No problem...

sniktawt
11-01-2003, 09:07 PM
Wow, When I collected X-Men there were Just 4 or 5 X-Books , Now it seems like there are a billion , all with Different continuity it seems.

Benz
11-03-2003, 11:59 AM
To those of you that were looking to get into the X-men comics but weren’t up to date, or just wanted to catch up with what’s been going on in the Marvel universe, I wrote a brief summary, yeah I have way too much time in my hands but I really don’t want to do the homework I’ve been set, and this is a way of getting out of it.

SPOILERS BELOW…

First I’ll go through the various books, followed by their respective teams and where they are now…

New X-Men: Cyclops, Wolverine, Phoenix, Beast, Emma Frost and Xorn (who was recently revealed to be Magneto, infiltrating the mansion). New X-Men is primarily about the teaching staff at the mansion, since the mansion is now open to the public and the world knows all about it. It contains an additional cast of several students, who turn up now and again.

Recently, Xorn, a relatively new addition to the team, was revealed to be Magneto, posing inside the mansion. While Wolverine and Cyclops participated in a mission to a Weapon Plus (the people that made Wolverine what he is) space station to find out about Logan’s past, Magneto made his move, crippling the professor once more and sabotaging the rest of the team. Cyclops was able to escape in a shuttle, crashing in the ocean. Wolverine finally finding out about the past that had been hidden from him for so long, blew up the space station, with himself on board, but was soon rescued by Jean, who realised she was being set up way too late. Beast and Emma were sent out to recover Cyclops, but the X-Jet was destroyed before they could make it their, leaving their whereabouts unknown.

Magneto went about destroying New York City, aided by his new brotherhood of mutants, which consisted of former students of the Xavier institute. Meanwhile, Wolverine and Jean found themselves stranded on Asteroid M, which was on a collision cause to the sun. As the conditions got hotter, Jean realised there was nothing she could do, and that the phoenix inside her was draining her strength, Logan, wishing to end her suffering, stabbed her himself, killing her, before carrying her body into the sun, as his body began to disintegrate due to the heat, the phoenix awoke inside Jean, presumably as a result of her death…

Uncanny X-Men: The team consists of Havok, Northstar, Iceman, Juggernaut, Husk, Jubilee, Archangel, Nightcrawler, Wolverine (the two teams share him) and Polaris. Now bare with me, because here’s where things get slightly complicated…

Havok was stuck in some kind of alternative dimension (which is detailed in the long running series Mutant X), however a young nurse named Annie found his body. Annie’s son just happened to be a mutant named Carter, a small boy with telepathic powers, who used his ability to pull Havok out of limbo…

Polaris went crazy for reasons I can’t understand, but she returned to the mansion when news of Havok’s revival emerged, and proposed to him. At the last minute, Havok snubbed her at the altar, due to the fact that he had fallen in love with the nurse who had found him, the two are now together.

Polaris is under the care of the institute, and Xavier is trying to nurse her back to sanity, somehow she has been revealed to be Magneto’s daughter, which is all quite complicated to me.

Meanwhile, Juggernaut is part of the team, due to a sudden change of heart, he asked Xavier if he could join, and Havok accepted him into the team. Juggernaut was also taken on as a father figure by a young mutant named Sammie, but Sammie was forced to return to his home, and Juggernaut has since gone on a mission to find him and bring him back to the mansion.

Iceman is going through a secondary mutation, turning completely to ice. The process is going extremely slowly though, and he was recently blown up on a mission and presumably killed, I’ll get to that in a minute. Iceman declared his love for both Annie and Lorna previously, but both snubbed him; there are rumours that Chuck Austen (writer of the book) is turning him gay…

Husk joined the team and is now in a relationship with Warren (Archangel, who’s secondary mutation turned his skin back to white, as well as giving him regenerative powers) Jubilee was the target of a mutant hate group and murdered alongside Skin, Jesse Bedlam and others, however Archangel’s powers were able to bring her back, she hasn’t really done anything since joining the team.

Nightcrawler’s father is Satan himself, or at least the mutant version of Satan. His mother is mystique, and in the last few issues he and the rest of the team have been battling his father’s minions, which is where Iceman was blown up, and is now just a head that Archangel is holding on to for dear life. Iceman’s secondary mutation will probably kick in either next issue or the one after.

That’s pretty much it in terms of Uncanny, the book has been getting a lot of bad reviews for being to soap operaish as well as having too big a cast, Austen probably won’t be their for longer so expect a change of direction sooner or later.

I’ll try and write something about X-Treme and the other books in the next few days, as this turned out longer than I expected it to be.

Lackey
11-03-2003, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by sniktawt
Wow, When I collected X-Men there were Just 4 or 5 X-Books , Now it seems like there are a billion , all with Different continuity it seems.

they're all the same continuity... except for Ultimate X-Men, that's why that one is the best. :)

Kyle Katarn
11-03-2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Lackey
they're all the same continuity... except for Ultimate X-Men, that's why that one is the best. :)

Actually....and this will probably back up your point about Ultimate...the continuity is not as "rigid" between the X-books as it used to be.

The Good: You don't have to buy every book with an X in the title to understand what the shock is going on each month.

The Bad: At the same time, if you DO read multiple X-books, you get stuff like Wolverine battling alongside the Uncanny team as they learn of Nightcrawler's origins...while the same month in New X Men, he's being incinerated with Jean as Asteroid M plunges into the sun...

adnamasevoltam
11-05-2003, 01:53 PM
ive been collecting all the main xbooks since just b/f age of apocalypse (which i thought was cool).....lately however...i find myself desperately seeking the old feeling of what to expect from the issue to come the next month....*sigh*....

*SPOILERS*

New X-Men is by far the best xmen of normal marvel continuity...however....i found myself actually perturbed w/xorns dismissal and magnetos return...i thought he died w/eve of destruction...then again w/genoshas masscre....its like bringing juggernaut to the good...keep the the bad bad...keep the dead dead...

Uncanny X-Men is **** right now...Austen sucks so bad its not even funny...though im glad havoks back and like the changes to angel...thats not worth continuing to trod through all the other **** he keeps producing (iceman has become the most annoying character of the xmen....and i used to love him...grrr)

X-treme X-men pretty much sucks since they have lost affiliation w/xaviers...which i thought would be kinda cool...only NOT....the 2nd god/man saga sucked horribly bad...ugh...

Ultimate X-Men is, in my opinion the best of all of them and its all out on its own...its recreation of characters/events is spectacular and allows u to start from scratch w/these utterly awesome characters...all of the Ultimate line is awesome....

as to the ****ing continuity of the comics b/t each other.....MOG does it suck!!!! i hate reading New X-men and seeing wolverine in the weapon x saga, in the Uncanny saga, and in the xtreme xmen saga.......PLUS.....hes got a Wolverine comic that hes doing **** in!!!!!! PLUS...it makes no sense that there is this huge overtaking by magneto and only the xmen of new xmen are doing anything about it???!!!!!!!!!!! so ****ing retarded!!!!

also: to newcomers or oldrecomers...i think the new mutants redo isnt too bad actually...of course it suffers from the whole continuity problem b/t books too...but i find it entertaining...

Benz
11-10-2003, 12:44 PM
Grant Morrison always intended to bring Magneto back, it was the whole reason he killed him in the first place, so he could re-establish him as the X-Men's number one enemy...

Kyle Katarn
12-11-2003, 10:26 PM
About the only thing I'm not digging about New X-Men is that Scott left Jean...for Emma Frost?!

I think Beak is my fave new character...and I just just got the new Wizard, which has the ENITRE first ish of Grant's final NXM arc, set in the future...where we get to see Beak's grandson whup some ass and take some names (with Barnell's prized baseball bat too!).

Can't wait for the conclusion to Planet X! I loved the 'rallying of the troops' moment where Beak is telling Cyclops that Magneto killed the others, that there are no more X-Men. Scott looks over the surviving students and says 'That's not how it looks to me. I hope you all paid attention in class, because this is going to be one hell of a test! :cool:

Kyle Katarn
12-27-2003, 07:54 PM
Holy @#$*! :eek: New X-Men 150:
Magneto kills Jean Grey, and Logan lops Mags' head off! :eek: :waa:

I browsed through Ultimate X-Men Volume 5 today....I just have a hard time with a Wolverine that would 'murder' Cyclops by throwing him off a cliff in the Savage Land, just so he can get Jean!
And that Cyclops, who pretty well broke every bone in his body and laid on the ground in the Savage land for over 2 months, would settle up with one optic blast, and come back to Logan a few months later to invite him back to the team...!

Benz
01-10-2004, 07:01 PM
I like how they made Wolverine a more conflicted bad guy in Ultimate X-Men, it made him more realistic and kinda gave a new spin on the character...

I do agree that they rushed his return to the team though, but that was Millar and Kubert's last arc on the book, that's why.

Halofan1
01-10-2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
About the only thing I'm not digging about New X-Men is that Scott left Jean...for Emma Frost?!

I think Beak is my fave new character...and I just just got the new Wizard, which has the ENITRE first ish of Grant's final NXM arc, set in the future...where we get to see Beak's grandson whup some ass and take some names (with Barnell's prized baseball bat too!).

Can't wait for the conclusion to Planet X! I loved the 'rallying of the troops' moment where Beak is telling Cyclops that Magneto killed the others, that there are no more X-Men. Scott looks over the surviving students and says 'That's not how it looks to me. I hope you all paid attention in class, because this is going to be one hell of a test! :cool:

Seriouslah...New X-Men rules.

adnamasevoltam
01-15-2004, 03:43 PM
New X-Men #150 = a supremely tragic/classic/F***ING awesome end to the whole arc/Morrison run (cheers to the best writer on the series since i started reading back in '95). i just PRAY that Magneto stays dead at long last b/c bringing him back again would just ruin everything, IMO

i just read #151 and think that its got my attention and Silvestri's art looks absolutely stunning...this looks to be a good fun end for morrisons completely metamorphasized New X-men

Side Note: Ultimate X-men #41 (New Mutants: Part 2) is an astonishing/mind-blowing issue, IMO...worth checking out by any X-fan!

Kyle Katarn
01-19-2004, 07:09 PM
Okay, Lackey et al.....I FINALLY picked up Ultimate X-Men: The Tomorrow people. And I got just 2 things to say about it.

Kick. ASS. :eek:

I'll never give up the 'original' universe, but this is some great stuff.....I'll have fodder for Cyclops quotes for ages! :D

"Missing a FACE, moron???" *ZAKT*
"You think I have to push the button on my visor - bad news dumbass!"
"Storm? Aw $%!&"

About the most shocking change is Chuck's lack of ethics with his powers...I pity dat foo' Magneto!

Lackey
01-20-2004, 08:52 PM
It only gets better as the series goes on right up to Ultimate War which is the high point so far of the series, IMO.

...and wait 'til you see what happens to Cyclops later on (if you don't know already)

Kyle Katarn
01-20-2004, 09:12 PM
*claps hands over ears* spoilers la la la la la la .....laaa...
Oooohh...you mean when he and Logan went to the Savage land together? That was some%^*#ed up #$%!! :eek:

Okay, I browsed through that at the store. HARD-core. But a question: how did Cyke heal so fast from that?! Unless I misread the day counter, he was whupping @$$ in the hospital not more than a few days after he was laying at the bottom of a cliff with multiple shattered bones!

Lackey
01-24-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn
*claps hands over ears* spoilers la la la la la la .....laaa...
Oooohh...you mean when he and Logan went to the Savage land together? That was some%^*#ed up #$%!! :eek:

Okay, I browsed through that at the store. HARD-core. But a question: how did Cyke heal so fast from that?! Unless I misread the day counter, he was whupping @$$ in the hospital not more than a few days after he was laying at the bottom of a cliff with multiple shattered bones!


Yeah, that's what I'm talking about... when I read that I was thinking "Oh man, what're they doing to Wolverine!"

I didn't notice the amount of days the first time I read it... according to that, it was 31 days. I thought it was a few months. But I guess it wouldn't take more than 31 days for some broken bones to heal, still seems kinda short, though.

Superchunk
02-04-2004, 12:10 PM
Is Ultimate X-Men the red shiny cover with the X and the faces between them? If so that was the worst book I ever read, I couldnt even finish it, I tried twice but just couldnt do it.

Rocketboy
02-04-2004, 09:15 PM
A semi-related X-Men question...
I read NYX and in issue #3 they introduced X23 (she is apparently also from the X-Men Evolution cartoon) and she somehow related to Logan (from what i understand).
Anyone know how?

Kyle Katarn
02-06-2004, 10:20 PM
Superchunk: ...I don't THINK so. But I've only read one TPB. No idea, unless it's X-Treme?

Rocketboy: No idea, sorry. *sits back, polishes ruby quartz visor, and waits for someone with more X-knowledge to show up*

Kyle Katarn
05-27-2004, 12:50 PM
BUMP

Anyone check out Joss Whedon's Astonoshing X-Men? "Hey Logan, that healing factor's about to come in real handy....*ZAKT* :p

Lackey
05-29-2004, 03:59 AM
I did... although Marvel undoing everything Grant Morrison has done isn't that great of an idea, this issue was a great start to a new storyline.


"I'm sorry. I was busy remembering to put on all my clothes." :D

Kyle Katarn
05-29-2004, 08:34 AM
Actually Joss said in Wizard he didn't want to undo EVERYthing....hence his lineup being the New X-Men plus Kitty. Which is good.

I liked Grant's take on the X-Men, but with Joss at the helm, I knew I'd at least check it out. And I'm starting to warm up to the idea more of the X-Men becoming superheros again. After Magneto's final atrocoties, the 'PR stuff' makes sense to do to smooth over human/mutant relations. And there's still a team in Uncanny (Storm's XSE) to act as the 'mutant police,' so....

Benz
05-31-2004, 08:45 AM
Personally, I'm of the opinion that the whole reload has been pretty lousy.

Putting Chuck Austen on X-Men is the stupidest idea ever, and allowing him & Claremont to reveal Xorn and Magneto (even though Morrison wrote them as the same person) in their first issues is an even worse idea.

I've heard good things about Astonishing but haven't picked it up yet, so I can't comment on that. Not sure about Weapon X's new direction but I do enjoy Fantomex so that should be pretty good, and New X-Men: Academy X I picked up, but wasn't on par with New Mutants.

I'll stick to Ultimate X-Men I think, especially with Vaughan onboard and Kubert returning to the title as of #50.

Kyle Katarn
05-31-2004, 10:26 AM
:confused: I must have missed something from X-Men 157 then....I noticed 'Xorn' on the last panel, but it's never confirmed for now....it just, as one of them said, 'LOOKS like Xorn.'

adnamasevoltam
06-01-2004, 10:44 AM
the reload, on a whole, has sucked the big one. after having forced myself to suffer thru the majority of austen's work on uncanny, i reached a point where i refuse to read ANYTHING he writes as it is all the biggest piece of **** in the world of comics. bringing back xorn and magneto (if indeed they r back).................UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the new New X-men is ok, and ill prolly continue w/it to see if it goes anywhere good, and Astonishing is alright w/awesome art...though i just hate the idea of spandex again.....*sigh*......but maybe whedon will go somewhere good....at least hes not sucking it up like the rest of the x-books. whereas morrisons New X-men was the greatest thing to read in x-world this time last year...ultimate has now stepped up to the plate...the only book TRULY delivering really good work, IMO.

GGGG
06-01-2004, 01:15 PM
admamesevoltam - like your name: so not today...what about tomorrow?

adnamasevoltam
06-01-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by GGGG
admamesevoltam - like your name: so not today...what about tomorrow?

sometimes it takes a lot, sometimes it takes very little...but im confused? lol.

GGGG
06-01-2004, 03:34 PM
sorry it was about you name and I made a mistake... Ad ma mese voltam what will you be tomorrow? it sound Hungarian that is all

Lackey
06-02-2004, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by adnamasevoltam
the majority of austen's work on uncanny, i reached a point where i refuse to read ANYTHING he writes as it is all the biggest piece of **** in the world of comics.


Good man

I feel the same way about Austen as do many other comic book readers. As more and more of use stop reading the stuff he puts out, maybe Marvel and DC will stop letting him write all these titles.

adnamasevoltam
06-02-2004, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by GGGG
sorry it was about you name and I made a mistake... Ad ma mese voltam what will you be tomorrow? it sound Hungarian that is all

oh...i c. read my name backwords...its in english. sadly i find the name to not necessarily be true now - as i am single, yet i am unable to change it...*sigh*

amen to that, Lackey!

cerealkiller182
06-19-2004, 01:45 PM
is any one else sick of seeing magneto killed just to come back? Am i missing something? I mean Magneto's a cool character and all but u dont hav to kill him and resurrect him all the time