further evanescence suck-ness

[Radiohead]

they covered smashing pumpkins' "zero."
what's next? limp bizkit doing stairway to heaven?
:rolleyes:

#1 rule in music: if your band sucks please don't insult a legendary band by covering their songs.

[Radiohead]

well, actually, the #1 rule would be use a condom with groupies but the above rule is somewhere in the top 10.

[evilsquishy]

Trust me, there are FAAAAR worse people to do that. Case in point - Britney Spears.

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by evilsquishy
Trust me, there are FAAAAR worse people to do that. Case in point - Britney Spears.

**shudders at the though of the cover of "Satisfaction"**

:eek:

[sphericthor]

I like Evanescence and their cover of Nirvana's Heart haped Box was good so I'll give Zero a try

[QUINNtheESKIMO]

another bad one was Aerosmith doing "Come Together'

[JAE]

Anyone covering the Beatles sucks....didn't Fiona Apple do a cover of Across the Universe or was that some other whinning skinny white girl?

[roboxeno]

so averil did "knocking on heavens door" Which is my favorit song bye ..who ever came up with it ..i think it was guns and rose but i could be wrong

[Rocketboy]

Bob Dylan did it first, then it was later covered by GNR.

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by roboxeno
so averil did "knocking on heavens door" Which is my favorit song bye ..who ever came up with it ..i think it was guns and rose but i could be wrong

She also covered Feul by Metallica

[Riddle]

Dolly Parton did Stairway to Heaven...

Sacreligious b***h...

[sphericthor]

Looks like this is turning into a "what's the worst cover version of a song?" thread

[Rocketboy]

In that case, it would be a tie between Lenny Kravitz's "American Woman" and The Atari's "Boys of Summer."
I get angry whenever I hear them.
Grrrrrrrr...

[Kris Hodgson]

I like Boys of Summer by the Ataris.

[IdahoMR2man]

Honestly, deal with it. Covers of great songs will be made forever. It's just the way it is. There's no greater compliment than imitation.

[Kris Hodgson]

I like alot of covers. No Doubt do a great version of Obli De Obli Da. (Thanks for showing me that, Pixi). It may not be as good as the original, but that doesn't mean it sucks.

[smokiechimp]

I don't mind GnR cover of Knocking On Heavens Door even though I do prefer the origional masterpiece, but when i heard Avril Lavigne sing it I nearly puked!!

Also there is a dance version of Don hendley's 'Boys Of Summer' which I HATE!!! but the Ataris version is fantastic!

it's just a case of personal taste.

[evenstar]

Originally posted by smokiechimp


Also there is a dance version of Don hendley's 'Boys Of Summer' which I HATE!!! but the Ataris version is fantastic!



Its done by a guy called DJ sammy, he got booed of the stage at a local gig. :)

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by evenstar
Its done by a guy called DJ sammy, he got booed of the stage at a local gig. :)

I can't stand DJ Sammy or any dance music for that matter, it's all the same

[Optimus Magnus]

I actually prefere Guns N Roses doing Knockin on Heaven's Door, Bob Dyalan's voice just doens't flow on my nerves the same way Axl's does

I heard a techno version of a Queen song (It was only Flash so all fans wishing to declare Jihad on the DJ can calm down), but still, it scares me what they could to to Bohemian Rhapsody

And as for the Evanescance thing, I think will the quality of who's hip today, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Dr Dre, Ja Rule etc, I think that Evanescance are a breath of fresh air. The lead singer has a good voice I reckon

[downflow311]

covers are terrible. i dont like a single one. bands/groups use it to get there name out there and thats it. leave the songs alone, thats how it should be. do your own stuff, if your truly a talented musician then you'll come up with something just as good on your own.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Optimus Magnus
And as for the Evanescance thing, I think will the quality of who's hip today, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Dr Dre, Ja Rule etc, I think that Evanescance are a breath of fresh air. The lead singer has a good voice I reckon

evanescance is NOT quality. you have heard the guitar work right? my 6 yr old cousin can play their song.

[Skinny]

i dont think there a bad band... its not my kind of music, but theyre good to hear when i feel like it

[Lackey]

Originally posted by downflow311
evanescance is NOT quality. you have heard the guitar work right? my 6 yr old cousin can play their song.


complexity doesn't equal quality

[Lackey]

what about Smooth Criminal done by Alien Ant Farm?

[Radiohead]

i will agree with lackey in saying that complexity isn't always quality. i can pick up a guitar and learn any nirvana or coldplay song in 2 minutes flat and play it professionally in front of however many people.

the sad thing about evanescence, though, is that they have great lyrics but ruin it with mediocre music that sounds like everything else they play on radio. only difference is that they have a chick singing.

[Knerys]

They played zero at the concert I went to and it sounded fine. I had the heart shaped box and it sound good too. I don't know if you have seen them live but they put on a good show, and I wonder if you guys have listen to anything esle besides whats on the radio. Like the album or some or their unreleased stuff. It very good, and unique. but that's my opinion. And I don't care what you say, Amy Lee has got some pipes.

One other thing, covers are simlpy a form of one artist paying respect to another. Everyone has there idols, it just a way of expressing their appriecation. Granted some are bad and should be done. But not all of them are bad.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
i will agree with lackey in saying that complexity isn't always quality. i can pick up a guitar and learn any nirvana or coldplay song in 2 minutes flat and play it professionally in front of however many people.

the sad thing about evanescence, though, is that they have great lyrics but ruin it with mediocre music that sounds like everything else they play on radio. only difference is that they have a chick singing.

complexity can be overdone, thats true. but the music has to have some sort of complexity to be good. the same riff over and over just doesnt work. evanescence is likin park with a female vocalist. they are doing nothing new and are just another hack band ripping off someone else's original style.

[Knerys]

They are not Linkin Park with a female vocalist. :rolleyes: There are two very beautifully written piano ballads on their album, and several other that haven't been released yet. There a varity to their music, you can't judge them from a couple songs.

[Radiohead]

well, then i will say this.
if they can make another album and mature their sound and not just play the same old stolen rock riffs with the same old arrangement in their songs then i may gain a new perspective on them.

look at bands like linkin park, limp bizkit, korn (after their first 2 albums). they all put out the same album over and over. there's no artistic quality to any of it. just a bunch of pro-tool-dilluted crap.

one reason i am an avid smashing pumpkins fan is that no two songs sound the same. they all have different arrangements, sounds and styles. billy's voice has a lot of variety and he can sound different on multiple songs. the pumpkins put out 6 or 7 records yet they have as many b-sides and unreleased songs as they do album songs. we're talking a 600+ song library for a band that was around for only 13 years. that's almost unheard of these days.

i am not comparing evanescence to the pumpkins. lord knows that would be an insult.

so like i said, i will reserve further judgement and make no more negative remarks about evanescence until they put out a new album and prove to me they can write some better stuff.

[Radiohead]

i will say this too ...
look at bands like radiohead, smashing pumpkins, nirvana.
radiohead's first album was great, the second one was better, the third one even better, the fourth one was very different but just as good as the third and so on.
the pumpkins first album was great, the second one better, the third one better, the next one differetn but still excellent and so on.
the same can be said of nirvana.

these are bands who matured and kept making albums that superceded their previous releases.

too many times today we get an album that the masses completely devour and then the musicians get more artistic control on the next album and it blows chunks which makes you wonder why people liked them in the first place since their first album was re-written, butchered and produced by the record label and the next album is a true representation of the band's talent. then you have people like me sitting around saying "see? i told you they suck."

[Knerys]

But if you listened to the Album you hear different styles in their music. Maybe you have I dont know. And honestly with all the rap and punk out there, they are something different.

[Lackey]

Originally posted by Radiohead
one reason i am an avid smashing pumpkins fan is that no two songs sound the same.

I can think of a few songs that sound the same... what about 1979 and Perfect?

Even still I'm a big Smashing Pumpkins fan also. Part of being a great artist is developing your own style... and having your own style will cause your work to have some similarity. There's nothing wrong with that.

It's like if people said that Pablo Picasso or Jackson Pollock sucked because all their art looked the same.

or how about Alfred Hitchcock...considered one of the greatest directors and yet he never ventured outside his chosen genre.

now Evanescence has a long long way to go before becoming a great band... but as a new band, their not too shabby. and there really is no other band like them.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Knerys
They are not Linkin Park with a female vocalist. :rolleyes: There are two very beautifully written piano ballads on their album, and several other that haven't been released yet. There a varity to their music, you can't judge them from a couple songs.

who else plays distorted guitar with a piano accompaniment? linkin park. who else has a rapper and a singer? linkin park. who else mixes techno with rock? linkin park. they play the same amp and guitars as linkin park. there such a hack. the only thing thats different is the female lead singer. i have heard the whole album and it sounds too much like everything else out there. Evanesence are not doing anything that hasnt been done before. just another hack band to be confused in the crowd. lackey your taste in music is becoming predictable.

[downflow311]

here are some bands that are truly a breath of fresh air to the music industry. bands/artists that truly evolve their music with each and every record:

-Radiohead
-Tool
-White Stripes (most original "popular" group out right now)
-Audioslave/RATM
-Black Eyed Peas
-Roots
-Keller Williams

granted some of these might not be your taste, but they are doing something different then everyone else out there and cannot be mistaken for anybody else, which cannot be said for evanesence, as several people already get them confused with other bands. open your ears people!!!!!! Evanesence=hoobastank=papa roach=limp bizkit. all bands that hack off someone else's sound.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
i will agree with lackey in saying that complexity isn't always quality. i can pick up a guitar and learn any nirvana or coldplay song in 2 minutes flat and play it professionally in front of however many people.

what does that say for the creativity side of things though? i can pick up and play any of these songs in 2 mins flat like you but its a waste of our time. what does that say for the quality of the music knowing you can play it in 2 mins or less? how long did it take you to learn eruption? exactly. i get so sick of riff-chorus-riff-chorus-riff-chorus-riff. one of the greatest songs of our time, stairway to heaven, is also one of the more complex ones. now complexity CAN be overdone, but simplicity is far more overdone then complexity. music with complexity is almost a rarity these days. and only the *truly* talented bands are doing it.

[Radiohead]

Originally posted by downflow311
what does that say for the creativity side of things though? i can pick up and play any of these songs in 2 mins flat like you but its a waste of our time. what does that say for the quality of the music knowing you can play it in 2 mins or less? how long did it take you to learn eruption? exactly. i get so sick of riff-chorus-riff-chorus-riff-chorus-riff. one of the greatest songs of our time, stairway to heaven, is also one of the more complex ones. now complexity CAN be overdone, but simplicity is far more overdone then complexity. music with complexity is almost a rarity these days. and only the *truly* talented bands are doing it.


huh?
what i was trying to say is that nirvana and coldplay are not complex but it doesn't make them bad. i love nirvana and coldplay. look at bands like Tool. tool is pretty complex but Tool blows. Same song over and over again. Same whining about the same ****. Even all their music videos look the same.

whoever made a reply above, though, was correct with their evanescence-linkin park comparison

"granted some of these might not be your taste, but they are doing something different then everyone else out there and cannot be mistaken for anybody else, which cannot be said for evanesence, as several people already get them confused with other bands. open your ears people!!!!!! Evanesence=hoobastank=papa roach=limp bizkit. all bands that hack off someone else's sound."

the above statement is also true.
evanescence has the same sound as every other crap-tastic band out there. they just have a chick singing.

[Brock Landers]

Originally posted by Knerys
They played zero at the concert I went to and it sounded fine. I had the heart shaped box and it sound good too. I don't know if you have seen them live but they put on a good show, and I wonder if you guys have listen to anything esle besides whats on the radio. Like the album or some or their unreleased stuff. It very good, and unique. but that's my opinion. And I don't care what you say, Amy Lee has got some pipes.

I saw them in concert on September 3rd(opening bands were Cold and Rheevus and Finger Eleven). Evanescence put on such a good show.

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Radiohead
huh?
what i was trying to say is that nirvana and coldplay are not complex but it doesn't make them bad. i love nirvana and coldplay. look at bands like Tool. tool is pretty complex but Tool blows. Same song over and over again. Same whining about the same ****. Even all their music videos look the same.

whoever made a reply above, though, was correct with their evanescence-linkin park comparison

"granted some of these might not be your taste, but they are doing something different then everyone else out there and cannot be mistaken for anybody else, which cannot be said for evanesence, as several people already get them confused with other bands. open your ears people!!!!!! Evanesence=hoobastank=papa roach=limp bizkit. all bands that hack off someone else's sound."

the above statement is also true.
evanescence has the same sound as every other crap-tastic band out there. they just have a chick singing.

i agree. the only difference is amy lee. other then that, they are linkin park, papa roach, disturbed, etc etc etc.

[KurdtKobain84]

Originally posted by downflow311
who else has a rapper and a singer? linkin park.

just a side note. evanescence has a guy "rapping" in one song, he was a guest on "bring me to life," he's not a part of the band.

[downflow311]

thank you for diminishing my many points that evenescence is a hack to just one.

[Lackey]

Originally posted by downflow311
thank you for diminishing my many points that evenescence is a hack to just one.


it shows that you don't know much about them (and haven't listened to their CD), which diminshes your other points as well

[downflow311]

i have heard the cd, but didnt bother to read the credits that hes on one song. i heard enough to know they suck.

[downflow311]

always fun arguing with you lackey.

[Lackey]

Originally posted by downflow311
lackey your taste in music is becoming predictable.


:rolleyes:

[Lackey]

Originally posted by downflow311
i have heard the cd, but didnt bother to read the credits that hes on one song. i heard enough to know they suck.


You hear the cd but didn't notice he was on one song? Listening to all the other songs and not hearing him should've clued you in, don't you think?

[downflow311]

coudnt listen to the whole songs, they were so $hitty. listened for 2 mins then changed the track. never finished a song they all sounded so alike.

[downflow311]

well it was fun chatting with you lackey but i gotta go. post something offensive so i have something to get excited about next time i log on

[Lackey]

Originally posted by downflow311
coudnt listen to the whole songs, they were so $hitty. listened for 2 mins then changed the track. never finished a song they all sounded so alike.


so like I said, you didn't listen to the CD


well it was fun chatting with you lackey but i gotta go. post something offensive so i have something to get excited about next time i log on


that's more of your area

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Lackey
that's more of your area

man was i disappointed when i logged back in today.

[Optimus Magnus]

Quote by downflow311

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evanescance is NOT quality. you have heard the guitar work right? my 6 yr old cousin can play their song
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Well, maybe your cousin is a child prodigy, like Beethoven, and while I'm on the subject of old Ludiwig Van, I remember a comment about him

"Beethoven had his critics too, Downflow311. See if you can name 2 of them" paraphrase Eric Bana in 'Chopper'


And if you want really good music my friend, look no further than the likes of Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Guns N Roses, Queen, Judas Priest, KISS and Led Zeppelin.

Those dudes are the coolest, Linkin Park and all others are small fry mother ****ers compared to them, and I can prove it

at the 2002 Rock In Rio concert, Iron Maiden were the main attraction, drawing almost half of the 250, 000 strong crowd

And in Sydney at the Telstra Dome Stadium, backed by the full Melbourne Symphoney Orchestra, KISS played for a sell out crowd.

As for Papa Roach and his ilk, like Eminem and his mob, should all be put the ****ing wall and shot

Techno and Rock?

that is a most unholy thing, and as far as this guy is concerned, Linkin Park are not rock, they are, wannabe metal, just like Korn and Limp Biskit

[Knerys]

Originally posted by downflow311
who else plays distorted guitar with a piano accompaniment? linkin park. who else has a rapper and a singer? linkin park. who else mixes techno with rock? linkin park. they play the same amp and guitars as linkin park. there such a hack. the only thing thats different is the female lead singer. i have heard the whole album and it sounds too much like everything else out there. Evanesence are not doing anything that hasnt been done before. just another hack band to be confused in the crowd. lackey your taste in music is becoming predictable. Linkin Park focuses on mixing. It's a sample not piano. Second, there is no Rapper in Evanecsence. The only song like that was Bring Me to Life and he wasn't even rapping. And yes they may sound similar, but even think that might be a reason why some like them? Just because something is similar doesn't mean it bad. They have their own flavor, just like Radiohead and all those other band you like. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean their bad.

coudnt listen to the whole songs, they were so $hitty. listened for 2 mins then changed the track. never finished a song they all sounded so alike. Then you would have notice the two piano ballad on the album. I don't think you even listen to two minutes.

[Halofan1]

First, Smashing Pumpkins aren't that legendary. Second, Limp Bizkit covers Stairway and I break all their kneecaps.